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Levi Benton: Miss May I · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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  Speaker 1: Today, we've got Levi from Miss may I. Super stoked
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  Speaker 1: to chat with you, Levi. Before we get into all
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  Speaker 1: of the history of Miss may I and your recent
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  Speaker 1: signing and the re recording and all the things that
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  Speaker 1: you all are gonna be up to very soon, i'd
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  Speaker 1: love to just hear how you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Good man, good today. It's been like a day of interviews,
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  Speaker 2: so I have all these podcasts and everything to day,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm amped up, like I've been doing dad mode.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm talking about the Band's nice because I forget
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  Speaker 2: we're in a band. Sometimes it's nice to be like,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, right, this is nice. Yeah dad?
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  Speaker 3: Right now are you are you like texturing taping and
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  Speaker 3: texturing your wall behind you there?
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  Speaker 2: This is like yeah, this is like will be my office.
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  Speaker 2: It's been like this like two years. It's like I'll
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  Speaker 2: get to it. It's like how primar it and paint
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  Speaker 2: it one day? So yeah nice.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're in dad mode and band mode,
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  Speaker 1: there's not too much time to like actually do home construction.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Oh my gosh, yeah, I forget literally until like
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  Speaker 2: about the grocery store, so would like my song shit,
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  Speaker 2: come on? Oh yeah, this man appreciate that. Oh that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Super soked to chat about the band's history. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you guys have been around for a while now, like
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  Speaker 1: almost not quite twenty years, but you're getting like we're
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  Speaker 1: only a couple of years away and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be a twenty year old band, which might be hard
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  Speaker 1: to believe, but I'd love to hear just like how
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  Speaker 1: you got maybe into music, so even maybe before the
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  Speaker 1: band actually started, Like what what got you into wanting
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  Speaker 1: to play music?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so my mom is it's all my mom. My
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  Speaker 2: mom's like a metal head. She is way warly. H Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's got way more tattoos, right purkle hay. She's like
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  Speaker 2: a linebacker. She's a badass. She's like, I don't do pits,
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  Speaker 2: but when I go shows my mom, she the pits.
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  Speaker 2: She just loves. That. Is your mom like willing to
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  Speaker 2: adopt playingy chunes. It's a lot d I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's intense. I don't know. You can't.
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  Speaker 3: Instead of taking you to the park and dropping you
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  Speaker 3: off of the park to go play with your friends,
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  Speaker 3: mom takes it to the pit and drops you off
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  Speaker 3: of the pit.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And she just monitored, right? Is that it?
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  Speaker 2: She instigates it. I'm not, like I said, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a person. She's like, come on, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want this is about how I enjoy shows. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's she's always been like that. And I think like
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  Speaker 2: growing up too, I thought I didn't think it was
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  Speaker 2: cool until I was like appreciated it in like my
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  Speaker 2: high school years. Like my mom always had black and
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  Speaker 2: skulls and loved metal music, and like, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: just a kid thing to be opposite of your parents.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, yeah, I tried really hard to
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  Speaker 2: not wear black and skulls and like handy music. And
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  Speaker 2: then and like we clicked about like like around high
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  Speaker 2: school and I'm like, oh, this is what you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to tell me whole time. This is awesome. She still
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the heavier music than I did, Like she does
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  Speaker 2: Obituary and like Hannibal Corpse and stuff like that's like
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  Speaker 2: that's beyond my my threshold. So she's, yeah, he's cool.
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  Speaker 1: So you might have the coolest You might have the
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  Speaker 1: coolest mom out of any guests we've ever had, and
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  Speaker 1: we've had almost like two hundred guests on.
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  Speaker 3: Cool I think, hands down you cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and you for sure, like at least out
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  Speaker 1: of the moms that have been described to us on
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, you definitely have the coolest.
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  Speaker 2: She's the best. She's if you google it, Karine get
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  Speaker 2: a whole article about her in like twenty twelve because
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  Speaker 2: she was like a metal mon So it's like me
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  Speaker 2: on this like throne and my mom's like next to me,
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  Speaker 2: and we're like, it's cool.
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  Speaker 3: We should have her on.
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  Speaker 2: She's her stories are nuts, so there's there's like a
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  Speaker 2: crazy thing, not the like sidecard just to my mom.
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  Speaker 2: But this was like two thousand sixteen, so we were
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  Speaker 2: just touring on stop like that. Was only home a
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  Speaker 2: couple months a year for like a decade, so I
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  Speaker 2: was never home. And I got two little bros that
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  Speaker 2: are like ten years under me, and they're like they're
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  Speaker 2: close to they're closer in age, and they all up
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  Speaker 2: together and she goes see Sugar by herself, and like
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  Speaker 2: I said, she goes into the pit. It's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: She got elbowed in the like she got elbowed and
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  Speaker 2: like had a really bad black eye, and she like
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  Speaker 2: sent me a picture and I'm like, oh, you got it.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting older, Like click, what are you doing? She's
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  Speaker 2: like I love this, and she's she goes home and
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  Speaker 2: she sneezes and her eyebops out because she shattered her
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  Speaker 2: eye socket and she didn't know she had to go
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  Speaker 2: to the hospital. She has like a metal eye socket,
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  Speaker 2: but you can't tell, but they like rebuilt her eye socket,
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  Speaker 2: but she got hit so hard and like shattered her
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  Speaker 2: eye socket. And my little brother's like.
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  Speaker 1: How does an how does an eye felt like is
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  Speaker 1: there like something still like attack, Its just this bilical
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  Speaker 1: cord of her eye or yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Just the pressure went like your eye socket holding in
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  Speaker 2: so like something was shattered just like came out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great. And she's like call away from the
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  Speaker 2: hospital and she like, like I said, she's way tougher
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  Speaker 2: than I'll ever be. So she's she's just talking over Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got a sreaking get surgery all this. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what you need to slow down, be like be a mom,
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  Speaker 2: like chill out. So she's intense. She's still like to
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  Speaker 2: this day, even with a metal life socket, she wants
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  Speaker 2: to be up front. Yeah, she was my intro into this,
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  Speaker 2: like our first band. We messed on him was like
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  Speaker 2: the Emo fans with me in high school, Like we
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  Speaker 2: both love the US at the same time. So that
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  Speaker 2: was our first band that we fell in love with together. Nice,
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  Speaker 2: So you go see them everything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still just trying to imagine the experience of like
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  Speaker 1: having your eye and like you're just holding it and so.
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  Speaker 2: A well, it didn't like come out far. It just
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  Speaker 2: like I think it's like, you know, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 2: when those people can like push your eyes out. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's like that kind of looked like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well it's a matter of perspective, isn't it. I Mean,
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  Speaker 3: like I heard this quote one time where it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, uh, if a guy who's like like really
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  Speaker 3: thinning hair and everything like that, you would say, well,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't have a lot of hair, But if that
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  Speaker 3: hair was in your soup, that'd be a lot of hair.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, right, So like if your eyeball is coming
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  Speaker 3: out even a little bit, it's coming out a lot
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  Speaker 3: because it's your freaking eyeball.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine. Yeah, that's like it's terrifying. And I
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  Speaker 2: wish like I had a according to the call, because
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  Speaker 2: she did not was so non soalant about she's like
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  Speaker 2: yeah and making me do this, make me do that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like making yeah, they're making me get heard. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and now in the winter because remember from Midwest, she's
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  Speaker 2: like so got like headaches because she's got like a
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  Speaker 2: cyborg face a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: So that's wild, that's so cool.
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  Speaker 2: She was my intro okay metal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
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  Speaker 1: So at what point did you get to the like
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  Speaker 1: where you were like, all right, it's not just like
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  Speaker 1: I want to listen to the US, Like I actually
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  Speaker 1: want to be making my own music, Like what what
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  Speaker 1: inspired that?
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  Speaker 2: So I like played cello in like elementary and then
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  Speaker 2: when I moved to Troy where I'm met the guys,
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  Speaker 2: we moved a lies like as a kid, when I'm
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  Speaker 2: in de Troy, they had too many cello's so they're
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  Speaker 2: made play bass and I was like, oh, this is cool.
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  Speaker 2: Then it's like older kids who are like, hey, we
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  Speaker 2: play on the week, like we have a band that
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  Speaker 2: we just like play covers. And I was like, I'll
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  Speaker 2: get a bass and like learn just like easy stuff
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  Speaker 2: on base. And I was just hanging out there and
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  Speaker 2: we were playing like Cawthorite Heights cover at the time,
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  Speaker 2: I was not doing vocals. I was just like hanging
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  Speaker 2: out the older kids and then the guys who were
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  Speaker 2: in the band justin him and I speeded and like
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  Speaker 2: we were like from a Pleasantville town sort of like
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  Speaker 2: like not real life in middle of nowhere, like island
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  Speaker 2: of town in Ohio. So like when the lights go
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  Speaker 2: out and it's like streetlights are all like everyone goes
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  Speaker 2: home and like a bad time. So like there was
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  Speaker 2: like something to do at nighte and we like dark
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  Speaker 2: these bands and then were just cover bands and he
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, you should come play bass, stay out
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  Speaker 2: for us. And I think the first song that I
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  Speaker 2: was like, oh, try vocals was like Fince Finch, what
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  Speaker 2: is the Bird? And it has like that screaming part,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't know the scream. I was like I
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  Speaker 2: could sort of say well at the time, actually Loot
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  Speaker 2: Me were whying we do like you without the Eves
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  Speaker 2: and taking next Sunday. We're like covering these songs and
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  Speaker 2: I am not a great singer. And then but I
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  Speaker 2: was like the one chosen to do that, and this
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  Speaker 2: is cool, Like I said, we're just playing in basement.
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  Speaker 2: Parents are like yeah, I get leave it. Nine because
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  Speaker 2: of bedtime and like so just it like posts, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: our church, like the there's like a church that had
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  Speaker 2: like an indoor skate park. Not that we were going
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  Speaker 2: to the church, but we would like skate there because
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  Speaker 2: it was like just a youth thing and we'd go jam.
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  Speaker 2: And then yeah, we screamed with fans and we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is cool. And then and then we met like
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  Speaker 2: then we got into Under Oath and then there were
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  Speaker 2: some screaming in the US, so I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they had sort of all this stuff. And then like
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  Speaker 2: I knew my mom was in the metal, but like
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  Speaker 2: I said, I just like that's not cool. My mom
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  Speaker 2: likes that kind of stuff. And then so I branched
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  Speaker 2: off into like from under Oath, I branched off into
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  Speaker 2: like kill Switch, and I was like dying. And that's
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  Speaker 2: when we were like, oh, it's like songs with justness
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  Speaker 2: the whole time, and then like it's and then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we started just like I said, playing uh as his
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  Speaker 2: friends and then started liking it. And then we started
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  Speaker 2: getting like better players, like older kids that were we
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  Speaker 2: herb a good guitar play, like he would come jam
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  Speaker 2: with us and we didn't know there were a local scene,
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't know that existed because, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: we were like in the island middle of Owor, Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: Like I didn't know bands got together and played a
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  Speaker 2: venue is because there was a venue in our town.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought it was like you're on MTV and
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  Speaker 2: you play arenas, and that's like all there is about bands.
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  Speaker 2: So we got to like the big city like Dayton,
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  Speaker 2: which is like thirty minutes away, and I'm like, there's
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  Speaker 2: other people like us playing together, Like this is nuts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we get together a play of her show. There's like
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  Speaker 2: twelve people because it was just our parents. They were
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  Speaker 2: pretty much in this whole venue. And then that sort
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  Speaker 2: of like opened us up into like playing a local scene.
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  Speaker 2: So we wrote, we wrote, but I guess we wrote
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  Speaker 2: like our songs for that. And it's funny because before
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  Speaker 2: he was who he is now, Joey Sturgis.
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  Speaker 3: We found him online.
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  Speaker 2: He did those songs when we were fourteen, like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because he was so he was only like an hour away,
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  Speaker 2: and it was like when you look it up and
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  Speaker 2: like my stace was just coming out. He was like
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  Speaker 2: the only guy that recorded bands and like our drummer's
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  Speaker 2: grandma took us and we were like we took her
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  Speaker 2: RV and we were only there for day, but he
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  Speaker 2: was like the coolest trip. We're like, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: record a saw like we probably got ripped off, but
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  Speaker 2: we paid this guy like take those songs from like
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  Speaker 2: a compilation and it was actually the crazy thing is
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  Speaker 2: some people got that compilation like tell us about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, we got ripped off. Like we
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  Speaker 2: all put our money together to get on this like
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  Speaker 2: compilation to make our band like big nobody. Nothing happened.
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  Speaker 2: There's just like the internet scam, but it did make
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  Speaker 2: it to some people. Yeah, And then we started playing
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  Speaker 2: local shows and like like I said, we started just
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  Speaker 2: picking people out that were really good in the school.
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  Speaker 2: And then like then we got Bja, who was he
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  Speaker 2: was great above us. He like smoke cigarettes, had cowboy
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  Speaker 2: boots and like he had a job and money and
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: a lice could buy gear. So he like showed up
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  Speaker 2: with gear. We're like, what the hell, this is crazy,
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: and I guess hey, we'd he was just so cool.
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  Speaker 2: We like would come he like it was just like
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: the typical like where do I plug in at? And
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: he had like a semil we made like this is
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  Speaker 2: the coolest guy ever. And he was like a shredder,
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  Speaker 2: so justin our guitar player who he was like my
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  Speaker 2: first friend when moved there because we just bonded over
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  Speaker 2: skateboarding and at the time, skateboarding is like allie over curbs,
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  Speaker 2: Like we're not doing like yeah stair sets or anything.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like I can hit this like slow
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  Speaker 2: rail like ten inches. But that was like fun, just
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  Speaker 2: something to do, and yeah, we got him. And then Jared,
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  Speaker 2: our drummer, was like he we heard she had a
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  Speaker 2: drum set, like nobody had drum sets, Like this kid
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  Speaker 2: has a drum set and he was first snare and
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  Speaker 2: he literally come to practice bull braces, Tachi cargo shorts,
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  Speaker 2: and he always had a T twenty nine like calculator
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  Speaker 2: because he was like a really good kid in school.
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  Speaker 2: He always had a calculator and in his own personal
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: tea all the time calculator. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So he he was just trying to do math core,
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  Speaker 3: is what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Yeah, he would didn't know anything about the music.
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  Speaker 2: We're like introducing him to this and he could like
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  Speaker 2: he was just so good Like before we like got
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  Speaker 2: signed and like almost did the split. Like he was
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: to be like a blue coat. He was just like
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: a drum prodigy that had a drum set and he
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: could just figure out what was on the songs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he was like the super sick he like he made
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  Speaker 2: our band, Like that's what all of our like attention
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: was because like our drummer was sick, Like he didn't
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: have a double kick. He got in the double cake.
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  Speaker 2: But I could figure this out.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's the hardest thing to find, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're like in a fairly rural area, Like you can't
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  Speaker 1: just find a drummer off the street very easily. So
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  Speaker 1: if you if you can find a good drummer, then
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  Speaker 1: you better like commit as a band because that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: come around very often.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he wasn't like in any green groups, Like
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  Speaker 2: nobody knew him. He was just like the kid who
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  Speaker 2: had a drum set, Like we didn't know he was
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  Speaker 2: good or not. Whereas like I've heard he has like
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  Speaker 2: an action he got simple to this there, like we
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  Speaker 2: should go to his house and play him because he
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: like he has a drum set and this is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, so that like I imagine him like rolling
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: up like like weird al in the ride dirty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, you know, in your hair like
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  Speaker 2: in high school, junior high like when we're trying to
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  Speaker 2: great your hair out, like go like this and it
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  Speaker 2: has that whip up like we all had that, like
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  Speaker 2: the little flip, so we like were the awkward stage
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  Speaker 2: that was like, well we all we all had like
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  Speaker 2: the awkward stage flip, so like we're trying to draw
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  Speaker 2: our hair out. But yeah, that was the former band.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah what is that about two thousand and six
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  Speaker 3: and seven?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I was I was fifteen, yeah, two thousand and six,
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  Speaker 2: so yeah, wow wow.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting is like also around that time in Ohio
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  Speaker 1: there's another band that's popping up called The Devil Wears Praduct,
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  Speaker 1: And like, I'm just curious, like what especially in those
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  Speaker 1: early years, Like I'm sure you guys like were playing
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  Speaker 1: at maybe some of those same small shows and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm curious, like what that relationship was like very
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  Speaker 1: early on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we since we didn't, like I said, we
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  Speaker 2: didn't know local stuff was happening, so like all the
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  Speaker 2: only thing we knew of then. This is pre YouTube too.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like the videos you would find on
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  Speaker 2: the internet of like those Cornerstone shows and stuff, and
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: like at the time there was like a big spike
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  Speaker 2: in like church and youth groups, so like all of
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: events were sort of around, Like all youth events were
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  Speaker 2: around like churching. So you're hanging out with kids your age,
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  Speaker 2: it's usually sponsored by a church, so like you could
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  Speaker 2: go and like we go to Exus, we go to Cornerstone,
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  Speaker 2: Like it wasn't a church event. It was just a
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  Speaker 2: church saying like hey, if you're this age, like we
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: just need fifteen bucks and your parents to sign off,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna go there and come back. And it was Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there was no like church for about It was just
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: like a safe spot for kids to hang out and yeah,
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: we would I remember going excuse and it was around
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: this time. And this is what really like made me
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: be like this is really cool, because, like I said,
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: never went to a metal show other than like my
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: mom taking me, like arena shows of like rob Zombie
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: or like Mail the Mansen and stuff like the nineties,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Like I only knew arena. I didn't know there was
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: like a I didn't know thousand cubed caps existing because
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: like especially pre YouTube, there's no videos or proof of that,
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, it's like unless you're
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: watching VH one, behind the music that is like does
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: not exist.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: The underground.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just underground. Yeah and Yeah and Zayo and
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: as They Dying were closing the stage and all my
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: friends are going to see Piller on the main stage
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: and like there's this deep end stage and it's all muddy,
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: and I literally went by myself because I was like,
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: there's stroll Blacks that people were screaming and I was like, well,
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: it's sound here, and I went down there and it
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: was as They Dying playing before Zayo. And I've heard
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: of Zayo because the Headbanger's Ball because my mom my
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: mom loved head Banger's Balls. I knew of some of
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: those dands and I was like, oh, I've seen this band.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I watch it and like I caught a drum stick
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: and like I didn't know any of the songs. It
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: was just like a Century Overload, but it was the
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: and it was like no production, Like every band just
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: had a four by tent. Like all the bands were
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: like big but not big, but the crowds knew who
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: they were. And now it changed everything I remember I
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: got all these splinters because I caught a drumstick from
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: as they dying and I tried to take it from
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: me and I shoved down my pants, but it was
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: played with so it was all chipped up, and I
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: was just like, oh, it just likes my leg all
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: up and I was like in the pant and I
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is awesome, and they just like
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: changed my whole thing. And then that sort of got
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: us into like we played our first show locally, which
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: was it was a Christian venue, but like I said,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: it was the only placed our age because that was
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: doing shows for kids to play because it's like, we're
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: else you going to play where they're gonna let a
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: fifteenyear old band get together, Like at the place, it
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't about alcohol, you like, it's a safe spot. So
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: it was like a Christian minu. We couldn't cuss, not
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: that we were like cussing our song, but it was
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: just like it was a type of venue, and yeah,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: that sort of and then there was there was a
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: venue next to there, so that when you're talking about Prada,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Prada's hometown venue was a was the attic where we
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: played our first show. So everyone was just playing shows there,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: and yeah, Prada is like why we got signed though,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: because fast forward a little bit, we like I'm always
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: been a nerdy guy. I'm like still belcher and like
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: that's what I do full time at home. So I
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: was like the computer, dude, and the band in my
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: face was coming out. I was just like really scared
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: it coding stuff, like telling people like not failing at school,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not doing any homework, not doing anything in school, just
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: like lately barely made it to school because I just
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: school was over. I'd throw my stuff and I just
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: get on a computer and I yeah, we just got
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the ranks locally and like we were just headlining every
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: local show and like that was the time when local
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: shows were like two hundred and three hundred people every
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Because it was like a kid
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: thing to do, no cell phones or or anything yet.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: So everyone's just like, what are you doing this weekend?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I heard there's bands playing here. It's ten bucks, like
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and pradat saw us at a show, or we heard
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the products of the building there their air. This was
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: just crazy, like the only time I knew about them
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: other than like the internet and their giantness was like
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I saw Germing once at the Hot Topic and this
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: was like he's he's It's so funny because he's such
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a bugger now like being friends with Phil, but like
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: at the time he had like the the five studded
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: belts and like this really tight like and his hair
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: was huge. She had like giant blonde, spiky hair. But
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: like people were surrounding him and I'm like, wow, this
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: is crazy. Some of the only experience I had of
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: him was like I saw him once in the and yeah,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: they were in town and they heard about us, and
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: then somehow Chris got my number, and I really remember.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: We're driving back from Springfield, Ohio. We're playing a church.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: We got so big at that church that they had
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: a coffee shop that held two hundred people. But what
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: we would play, the church would put us in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: gym and there'd be seven hundred people. So like we
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: were just like huge, well, and we didn't know anything
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: about it. It was like it's funny because we weren't
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: cool in school. We didn't have friends, girls didn't think
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: we were cool, but like outside of our town we
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: were so cool. It's like we come back to school
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, you don't even know, like you saw me,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: and like everyone's like picking all of us and we're
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: just not cool. And I'm like you don't just one
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: day you don't even know. And so we're like playing
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: in Springfield the show Big and I'm like in the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: back of this suv and it's like contorted. We'll like
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: have all of our gears. So I'm like holding a
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: snare and like have the symbols, and I like get
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a text from Chris the band. He's like, hey, I
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: think I want to get the management. And he was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: like the business guy in Prada and he was the
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: main writer and he was like, hey, we're to get
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: in a management. I heard about you guys. I just
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: sawing you. It was awesome. Let's talk and then like
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: the rest was history. We just I'm literally the next
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: day he like picked I know, my license. He picked
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: me up to Chipolet and which was like top shell,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Like Chipolet just came out. Was like, shit is so expensive,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Like this is crazy fine dining. It was fine out. Yeah,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he had to take me to the next town. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: was like rolling the city. He's taking me to Chipotlet.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Cool crap. This is nuts and then he just like
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: sort of helped us and like molded us, told everyone
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: about us. They posted some bulletins about us, and like
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: it sort of was We recorded with his friends, which
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know who Tyler Smith is.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Now he's like a huge producer. He does all the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: he was in Danger Kid but now he does all
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the Farmer where I prevailed stuff like that was Chris's roommate,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: like so he was like he lived in the back
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: room and had like he knew how to do this
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: stuff and he learned from Joey And at the time,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I was like some of the tech, like it was
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: early early like digital record so it was only like
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: a couple of programs. So like it was all like
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: it was like water warcraft and like recording like all
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: everybody did, uh and yeah, we just recorded with him
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and Chris helped us write some songs and posted on
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: us and yeah we did swing. Yeah. So if if
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: everybody looks at our old like team, our team was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like protest team because Chris is like, hey, yeah, you
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: should check these guys out, so it are we were
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: just like stamp of approval from them because we never
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: took the band, like seriously, like we didn't think we
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: didn't try to go get signed or like we really
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to go to school and just get out town
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: that way. We're like that's not for us, So it
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: sort of just if it wasn't for him. We were
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: never really took it. We were just like we were like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: oh we graduate, like stay in touch, go separate way,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: and it's like Jared's gonna be a blue coat. I'm
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: gonna go to design school. Like where are new things? Right?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: What at what point did you realize like, oh, this
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is really a thing, Like it got big enough where
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it was like okay, like we're we're doing this.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: We're gonna like now it could.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Be full time or whatever, and like obviously it's not
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: like you guys are gonna get rich, but it is
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like something where at some point you had to realize
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: like okay, like we we can't just like be doing
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a bunch of other like full time jobs around this,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: like we actually have to we actually this is our job.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Like at what what point did it seem like it
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: was that where it wasn't just a hobby, It wasn't
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: just the thing like when you were at Christmas and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're telling your grandpa about what you do and it's
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not just like a hobby anymore. It's like, no, Grandpa,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this is my job is to scream in a bat
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in a metal band.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Like what what point did it what?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: At what point did it feel like that was the
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: career or what point in the career of Miss may
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I was was that?
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I think until like we really went on tour he
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: played outside of the Ohio, we didn't think it was
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: like real because like even until we toured, we never
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: really were weekend warriors. We never did like dy tours
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: or local band tours because I wasn't on our objectives.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: So we just literally played it in like an hour
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: radius knows it. So we from that to like, hey
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: guys should do this, Like here's a record deal. And
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: the record deal is like hey, mom, like these guys
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: from Portland have this company. I'm not going to go
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: to college, then can I sign this thing? And it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: like so super sketchy and like Chris, we like went
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: to Buffalo Wild Wings and all of our parents had
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: to meet the label and Chris and like sign this
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: paperwork because like we're not holding off to sign and
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: the whole thing is just so sketchy, and everyone's like
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'm like, oh, there's thing called
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: rice spins and people listening to your band on there,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: and these guys will put it in stores and so
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: like even then we didn't really take it seriously. We
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: all have this thing of like, hey, after the first tour,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: well we could go our separate ways and like we
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and I remember there was this guy Matthew. I just
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: told him all the time, like he could up the label.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I was like, I just want to sell like one
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: box of Force Leaves. The CDs was like five hundred CDs,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and I'm like that's what I want. He's like, We're
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: gonna sell way more than five hundred CDs, and I'm
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: like no, it's like my goal is just to sell
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: this box. So our goals are really low. And yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: our plan was like we didn't really think it was
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: going to work on the first tour, so we like
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: we're still planning, like hey, we'll like see how it goes,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: run the numbers and I'll go home. And then like
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I remember, we played a routing show on our first tour,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: which is crazy to think about now. So we were
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: like our first show is a chain reaction on Artery
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Foundation Tour and Carnifects and Penning Doom was heaviliny and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: we were so spoiled because we were blowing up on
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the internet. We didn't really know we were blowing up because,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: like I said, we're from middle nowhere. We didn't know
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: what was happening. We were third so we weren't even
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: opening the first tour. We were like right in the
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: middle of the package, very spoiled. And we played a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: routing show in New Mexico at a large pad and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it like sold out and all these people are there
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I think that's so I literally
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: the first show like touring. So it's like we only
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: play Ohio, maybe Indiana and Kentucky, maybe some Michigan shows
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: where we're like trade and vicey stars and local bands,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and then we show up in New Mexico, which none
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of us have traveled to. Band show sells out. People
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: are losing in their mind. We're like, oh shit, like
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: people know who our band is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: And then that was where we're like.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I remember coming off that tour and I was like
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I want tattoos. I'm like it's gonna We're a real
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: band like this. I didn't want any tattoos. I was
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: like such a square like I was like I don't
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: want anything. I don't like I want to just go
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: to school, like get like get out of the rut.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: And right we got pa, I was like this is nuts.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Like we sold so much merch like this is like
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it's really We really did tour NonStop. So I think
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: like after the first tour when we're like, oh, this
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: is because we were on fire. Even the older bands
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: were like because we were like ten years younger than everybody,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we're like, my damn it, guy, Like I'm like I
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: don't know what's happening because they're all like death metal
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: guys that were like super we're just super single kids.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: But that's like what we love. Like yeah, I know,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not ashamed of any other that was like those
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: are my idols, but we were just on its death
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: metal tour. Like if you look at that old flyer,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: it's like this corpse and it's like impending duing QR
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: effect Black Marle logo like multi Solution can not give
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: from the grade and it's like our like bubbly logo
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: in the middle and we yeah and we crushed. We
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: were playing swings, so we're playing that swing song and
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: we were just like and we had purple shirt like
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: we were playing we had colorful shirts, not black shirts.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Like we didn't know what we were doing. We just
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: murdered it. And I was just like, holy crap, Like yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: so I think we're coming home from now and this
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: could be a thing. And I was like our intro
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to like it was like that. Like other than like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: we would sell tickets to open up for bands at
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: the Attic, which was the only veneon. It was close,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: like that was our only other experience with like touring
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: bands was like I chilled my brides in town, dropper
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: cowboys in town. We just hustled tickets, had play forms,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and then at the same time, attack Attack was happening,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: so we were like bros with them. So we're talking
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: to them like what are you guys doing? What are
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: you guys doing?
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: That's gotta help. Yeah. I remember when Apaulogs Are for
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: the Week came out and the first music video came out,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: and myself and a lot of the other alternative music
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: fans in the school that I went to, which was
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: a rural South Dakota school, just like Mason. A lot
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of the girls were into Miss may I, and so,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: of course, in order to gain some of the favor
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: with some of the girls, a lot of us dudes
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: were like, well, let's check out miss Man And as
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: soon as we pulled up the first music video, we
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: knew why. And it was because of you man, your
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: your your luscious locks just flowing everywhere.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Never translated, So I don't know there were getting never
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: came full circle.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Man, I tell you what you would have You would
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: have done well in the Upper Midwest with some of
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: your fans up there if that was what you were
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: into at the time.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Mary at high school, sweetheart, So I probably was just like, hey,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I had i'd blind your long So, yeah, that's a
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: good call.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: That's a good call. You really are like the perfect
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: front man. Then I try guys. I mean, how many
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: people in the scene have have completely lost the career
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: because of their weird relationships with with the opposite sex.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when all that started coming out, I was
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I knew I had a whole list in the macro line.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I know a lot of that, guys.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of bad stuff's about to happen.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so good for you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Midwest Point you were, yeah, you were. You were
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: just like in the straight and arrow. Yeah, partly because yeah,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you were already like committed to this. I'm sure a
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: beautiful woman in high school.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's Yeah. We we played a show together on
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: my sixteen birthday. She was in another band. We both
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: lost into the battle bands and it was yeah, there
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: was like an eye store. We everyone got stuck there,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: but yeah that's how we. Like. She slid into my
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: d end. So all the guys tart like they were
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: their numbers on her drumhead, like they were all hitting
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: on her, and I did not. She's slid into my
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: space dams the next day and.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Literally literally the one playing hard to.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Get do you mean to like I said, I just said,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, and you'll say, Ryan, So Ryan and I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: like do run the band and we're like good combat
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: cop and he just I'm literally like, well like Aaron
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like singer guy, like there's so much stuff that goes
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: over my head and Ryan like LEVI and I'm like, oh,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I didn't even notice. So yeah, yeah I love it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So you did mention just a second ago. You know
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: like Midwest guys. You know there is a big debate
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: right now about whether or not Ohio is Midwest. Where
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: do you stand in that debate about whether or not
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Ohio should count is a Midwestern state?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: What's the other option are? What are we just east
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: coast like.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Probably more more admit Atlantic, I'm guessing like like that
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: you all are culturally closer to like Pennsylvania than.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Or just Great Lakes region that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I love the Midwest because to me,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: it's like a heartfelt thing. Like to me, Midwest is
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: more the not geographical, it's more like personality and like
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: work ethic in that. So I would if they took
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: that away from us, I'd be crushed because I'm like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of riding on that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Well. You see from Mason, a nice respective. We're both
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: from South Dakota, and we don't feel I don't know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: at least for me, Mason, I don't. I can't speak
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: for you, but I don't feel like a Midwesterner. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: feel like a Westerner other than.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: A Midwest I feel I feel like because we grew
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: up on the eastern side of South Dakota, so we
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: grew up like thirty minutes from the Minnesota border. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: feel aggressively Midwestern, like Midwestern to my bone, Like.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: So we're opposite, we believe the opposite thing there. That's interesting.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I feel aggressively Midwestern. But I lived
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: in LA and like stick out. It sticks out like
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a sore thumb. Media and realizing you like holding doors
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: on for people and hold like are you from the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: mid from the Midwest? I just being a normal person.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: And when we move back, I was like, oh yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: it is just nice here.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, no, you're right, You're probably right. It is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: It is a mentality thing, right, it's not. It's not
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: necessarily a geographic thing.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the there's a lot of grey cold days.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: People power through it to keep out, pull your boots up,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: put a smile on, like everyone helps everybody. It's definitely ill.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: It's not easy. I love talking about the weather. Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: that's all. I love a thirty minute goodbye, like walk
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: them through the doors. Yeah yeah, yeah, big fan of that.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know thirty minutes is that how it works
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: in Ohio? In South Dakota, it's like at least an hour.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like at least twenty hubs, you like walk
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: them to the door, and you're like one more. Okay, seriously, hellius.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Like it's the opposite of an Irish goodbye.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's true.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah right.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Obviously Red calls us Nascar metal, so August for I
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: has always been like, you guys are just too nice.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: You guys like Nascar metal, just normal guys. I was like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: We've always been really normal.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: So Nascar metal interesting, and we love.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: The other thing we have, like big race cars. Drivers
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: are fans of ours and we also love NASCAR, so
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it's sort of and hasn't help, Like on Sunday we
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: will watch the race no matter where we're at.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: So that's wild.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And the Expinity serious, Yeah, we did both series.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't have guessed that from him.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Guys, it's to the Ryan. None of us grew up
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: on it. Ryan grew up on it. Ryan is like
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Ryan's the most hardcore MI in West g He thinks
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: he's so cool and it was the dying and all
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: this other stuff, like he tries to be so tough,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: but he is the softest, sweetest guy through all this.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Thanks, So who do you all root for? What's your
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: what's your NASCAR driver.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: So it's a it's a tie because we're home. They're
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: equal homies. So Blainey and Bubba, which they are rock
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: stars now, but they weren't rocks. We knew them when
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: they were like kids that were come of our shows
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: to their metal heads. We knew them like through the
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Xpinity series, and then now they're actually like superstars and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like yeah, like yeah, they come in like dude,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it's they're like the friends that like we can't take
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: in public because they're like actually they're like real celebrities.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Is nuts, Like we got to.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Like infield the infield tickets when you want in store.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we sit on the pit anytime. Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: So do you just take like the tour bus, the
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: tour van or whatever you guys are are getting around in.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Do you just take that there and then PLoP it
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the infield?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Well, no, we don't pop it. It's obtained that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: No.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: No, we we will sort of hang out with them
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: because like it's funny all the like goofy sponsors and
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: ship they are like like suckers and gumb and like
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the really time their trailers are just everything that's on there.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: They really have will play up, So like I always
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: think of going to see them as like have like
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: me pep Season and gay Ing. I'm like kind a
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: sucker and all this gumb like do what. I'm like,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: this is all awesome? Is your dad every day? And
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like kick some asks and I'm like watching them
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: like so I just literally I'm like a kid at
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a candy store. I'm like watching the race, but I'm
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: more just like eating all their sponsor stuff because like
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I have whatever they're like words out on it sucks. Yeah,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And to them, they have their own buses that are
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: like their budget is obviously like one hundred times more
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: than a band's budget, so they're like, oh, I just
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: thought this bus from the West because it's about this
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and like check it out. I'm like I don't even
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: know they could do this. And it's like there's like
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: a second story and all this stuff transforming out of
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it and like they like really have to live on
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the road. It's it's so cool. But yeah, we knew
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: them when they were like in trucks before they like
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: were anybody's especially when the whole Trump thing was happening
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: with Bubblah. I'm like, dude, I'm like, what what are
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you doing? This is crazy? Oh yeah, sick.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: That is Well, let's talk about the signing to Solid State.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Obviously a little bit of a transition for you all
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: in your career. You know, I mentioned before that Colin
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and I are lifelong Solid State fans and so we're
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: super stoked about the signing. But yeah, I'd love to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just hear the story around around signing the Solid State.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so when we when our contract was up, So
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: every time our contracts up, we don't like lead labels
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: because of anything. It's just it's mainly me and Ryan.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: We're like, so, hey, we just need something, like I think,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: especially for our band will be around as long as
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: it's been, like we just have to mix it up
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: because like it just will feel like work. So like
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: pretty much every time the contract's up, it's like working
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: into people. It's fun to have like a new perspective
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: or a new approach, and then we can bring what
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: learned from the previous label over and like this heat
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: building onto this state and everything's pretty much always insane,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Like especially nowadays in the digital age, it's not like
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: one s better than the other. The saut State was
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: really cool, because they were trying to just when they
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: approached us, Yeah, we were shopping around. We had a
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: call with him. And one of the cool things because
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: we've like became so commercial, like not intentionally, just like
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: being around so long and all the stuff that's happened
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to us, there's an easy underlying conversation of like some
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: politics and predetermined objectives. Sometimes you can like hear you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: because like they just see it as like a business,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: which is fine, but Sault State is cool. And what
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: we liked was likebviously the offer was great and they
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: knew our position. Like the hardest thing for us like
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: now is because we're dads and like because we're Midwest guys.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I even say, this's like if we were core and
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: or stuff. Now, like I still think I would want
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the Tory schedule we're doing because like it breaks our
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: hearts to be away from our kids. Like we just
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: we hate it. So it's like really hard for us
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: to tour, but we love this. It's it's seriously like
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: the worst mind like confliction ever. So it's that's just
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: always been hard. So that was the first red flag
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: for all labels, was like, hey, we're going to sort
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: out the tour very like at least until they're like
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: five or like that. That's our whole goal across the
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: board is like the important years, we're gonna like sort
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of slow down a little bit and like enjoy this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: And that was just hard because obviously labels are like
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: the old the to sell records. You're out, you're out
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: on the road. So the cool thing when we talked
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to Sault State was that didn't even come up. They
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: were just like, whatever you guys want to do, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: that that doesn't bother us at all, Like you guys,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: do what you want to do. And the whole sort
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: of objected to the call is often because outside of
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the touring aspect, just us doing what we wanted to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: do and not looking at us as like this established
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: band so like we were sixteen again, like do whatever
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: you guys want to do, like you can have like
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: all your rights, like to give us all of our rights,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: like there was no politics or like money really talks
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: with like all of their calls go to like muddle
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: like politics and splits and almost and just like yeah,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: wellever you guys want, We're here for you guys like
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: love to just put your music out and like that
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: just just felt like home and so comfortable, and like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: that's like the mismay I space we did. Like I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: did that with some buddies and there was no approval
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: or anything. They were just like cool, like just launch
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: it and so I didn't even have to like send
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: it to get approved. It is like that, and that's
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: how that's sort of like what launched our band. Initially.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: It was like the diy of like, hey, what can
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: we do different to like even if they don't like
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: our band, just give people's attention and that sort of
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: gets lost in politics and big labels and stuff, and yeah,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: some things is so cool. They're just so like they
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: trust us and it's just nice to like be trusted too,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: because yeah, we sort of know what we're doing, like
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: we asked them. Definitely, when I'm a dummy and I
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: don't know where I'm getting myself into Austin text, im
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: like I don't know what this means, like I will
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: call for help. But like other than yea, like we
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: can be a band.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So m how much of just you know, obviously you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: all kind of like grew up on quite a few
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: solid state bands. I don't know if you would have
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: been like the you know, die hard Solid State fans,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: but you know it sounds like you know if you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: said that you like listen to under Oath back in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the day, and like as I lay dying and a
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: number of these bands that were on Solid State, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: would imagine there's got to be like some level of
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: appreciation that a label that has produced so many bands
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and albums that you all probably grew up with now
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: like wants you on their own label. Like I would
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: imagine like that's going to play a part of like
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: just you know, wanting to move towards Solid State.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. It was cool because, like you they
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: have like a record like in a they have like
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: sort of a back kind long Like going to Sharp
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Tone was very risky because we were like the first
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: sinals on Sharp Tones. So we're like, yeah, okay, I'm
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: gonna trust this and like we figured we all there
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: was some times we're like figuring it out as they
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: went with their team because like their team's growing and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: to be with these guys that are sort of solidified,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: it's awesome. Now I guess said nothing's better or worse
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: than the other, but it was just nice because you
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: sort of knew what they were doing and like especially
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: like a lot of it came too from fitbir King.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: They've only been on Solid States, so they have did
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: great things, and I know there's a lot of resurgence
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: when Demo was Prodible back there, and that was like
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: sort of inspiring because like we could see through the
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: lots of Prada that they were doing what they wanted
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to do and that's like that's where the success is
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: coming from, because they're just being what they want to
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: do and it's like that label lets them do what
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: they want to do, so it's like just exciting. Jeremy
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: calls it the retirement home for medical man medicore mans
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Solid States, so that's what so, which I don't think
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: they like that, but it's just a funny like joke.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And that's why why we went there, was this just
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: to keep things brash esp mostly having done it so long,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: it's just nice to be creative again. It feels like
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, I just feel like we're kids again,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: because it does feel like a job when you have
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: to go through like thirty people are cec on email
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: like someone's listening in interviews because like you can't say
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: the wrong thing, which that's cool where I appreciate that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: I like that does work, but it's also like it
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: takes some of the fun out of it, you know, yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: do this.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll say I think Solid State is
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: at one of its best like lineups right now. I mean,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: obviously we kind of, you know, for those of us
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that grew up around the time that we did, you know,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: we think of like that two thousand and three, two
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: thousand and four, two thousand and five to maybe like
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine years as maybe like the golden
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: years of Solid State, and that certainly probably is the
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: case for me, like those were probably my favorite years
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: of their lineup. But god, their lineup is so fucking
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: good right now. It's really incredible, and so yeah, it
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: does kind of feel like, you know, they've got like
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: a really good mix of the the legacy bands like
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like yourselves, nor a Gene still on there obviously mentioned
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: just Prada, but then they also have a really good
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: mix of some younger bands too that are kind of
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: new on the scene and are also incredible bands. They
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: might not be quite as popular, they certainly don't have
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: quite the legacy that you all have, but they're still
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: really good bands and so there's a really good mix
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure. I feel so like such a
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: nude because like I never you were saying like Self
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: State bands are listening them, Like I never looked at
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: labels growing up and listening to bands, So like, do
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you just say Aley Dying. I never knew Aley Dying
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: was on Solive State once, Like I never the only
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: time I got into like a label like Kick in
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: my life, I remember well, and it's just because I
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: wanted the tea shirt. I didn't even care about the label.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I always wanted a farent Music T shirt, just the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: little pistol. I was like, that's so cool, and like,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't only like lineup but I never Yeah, I have
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: to do some more research on there, because like I
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: know them of like the Solid State stage and like
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: seeing them at like corner Stone and stuff, but like
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: they knowing their legacy, but yeah, I think they say
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the same thing. They think they're lined up right now
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: and I know the one them now it's just their
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: team too. Is just so cool. It's just such a touch,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: a creative, collaborative call, and everyone is just so punk rock.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Like some of the calls like will be ten percent
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: ten minutes of actual business and then like forty minutes
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: just talking about like food or just kids. Yeah, and
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I just it's cool. It feels like you're just figuring
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: out stille, like just having fun, like it's an art
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: saying not so much investig.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, love that love that is the way to go,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: you Ken.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the the re recording.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: This has kind of got to be like a really
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: cool opportunity for you all to to re record your
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: guys' first album. But what what's that process like or
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: what what maybe even inspired that? Like what was the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: reason why you even all wanted to to re record
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: and entire album. I would imagine like you put blood,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: sweat and tears into that fifteen plus years ago, What's
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: what's the reasoning to rerecord it?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: So like it was really weird. We almost did this
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: with Monument and it didn't come full circle and we
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: really were bummed about it. And so when this was
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: coming up, we always knew something was special about Apologies
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: because like even to this day, it's either you have
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: the lions symbol tattoo on me, or you have like
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: an apology's tattoo or like apologies sleep they've never There's
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: maybe some stuff sprinkled in between, but that's the general consensus.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: And that album just really just changed our lives. Like
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: other albums did certain things for our career, but that
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: album was like the crazy Word. So when it came back,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: it was the New Talks, and then so that the
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: cool little cherries that really pushed it across the edge
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: was like Ryan's not on the original. That was exciting
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: to like sort of put Ryan on a version. And
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: then to not just do a re because like we
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have done it if it was just a re recording.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: We had to have the guestscals because like it goes
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to us like which it hurts us more than it
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: helps us, but to try to just do something different,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: like just because everything's just so repetitive, like at least
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: to me, like entertainment. So I was like, if like
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: there's a million re recordings are remastered, which is awesome,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: but I was like, happily make a different And we've
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: never really had guest vocals. And I brought it up
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: to everybody and they immediately we're like, there's no way
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: that'll be like such a headache. And I had like
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: two days like give me it, give me till the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: end of like give me till the next week. I'll
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: figure it out. And so over the weekend, I literally
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: got everyone is on there, texted me back immediately. It
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: was like anything you need, man, like I'll get to
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: you next week. And like a label and management were
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: bowed away and they're just like, oh my god, like
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: we didn't think so would happened. And they all did
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: it for like bro both like they're just hoies, like
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: hell cost us anything like other than like some guys
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: had to like travel to the studio. We wrenched out studio,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: which is like thirty minutes, but like other than it,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: nobody asked for any conversation. They were all this friends
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: like it really and like we didn't approach it as
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: a rerecording. We told them like and I still like
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: I wish we could have put this in the lining
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: instead of retracts, but like it really was like a celebration.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: We just wanted to celebrate the album, like I wanted
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: like a party mix of like, well I didn't there
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: and I told everyone like there's no music video or photos,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: like just celebration and we put it out there and yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: everyone was so like no nobody said anything like there
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: was no bullsh echines or anything like. It was all
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: homings and that is what really made us like want
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: to want to do it. And then it was really
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: scary because we thought we were gonna so this is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: also happened in the path where people have done this
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: and people hated it, so that was like purifying. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I think until we were in the studio, I remember
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: doing the first track and like an all mess, I
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: was like, oh wa, man, do I because I don't
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: even go back and revisit our old album so like
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a lot of those songs I don't listened to like
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: ten years. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm saying.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I'm like looking up to the lyrics doing the songs.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: But it was cool.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: That is cool that it really is a fresh take
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: and I and I think that people who haven't listened
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: to it yet need to go out and at least
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the songs that have been released so far, go out
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: and listen to it, and I think that you'll quickly
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: become a believer that this is worthwhile a way to
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: spend your time listening to something. It's it really is
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: a new thing, even though it is an old thing.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: It's it's fun.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: The technology is the mix is so big, holy bank. Yeah,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: the technology suck. That's what we were mainly excited to
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: go back and do because like some of that stuff
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: is like I didn't know what I was doing, so
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: like a lot of it's like me and Joey like
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: doing some vocal processing and like under the whole, like
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I suck that loaves until like our third album, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: was like, so we're like pit shitting my voice, but
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: not like that's no. That sounds like a robot right here.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: It's believable. And then I like listen to it. I'm like,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: if that wasn't me, Like I remember those times. I'm like,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, we like made the sound because like we
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: knew we would get there, but we only had thirty
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: goals into the album and we only had three songs.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: So like from not Our Tomorrow one we wrote in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the studio like they were just like figuring out our gear.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And that's funny because that's when the songs became real
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: songs like not Our Tomorrow to the end is like
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: it's all about me and my now why the girl
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: from breaking up and it's all the sad songs. And
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: then the first three songs came up from our demo
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: that we're like, how obscure? What are the most obscure
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: things you could say? Because we like just love Blacked
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Alli and as Lad with Black. We're like the songs
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: had some some underlying meaning, but it male was like
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: doesn't this mental looks stick on my shirt? Like just
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: say it?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And you're like, well, yeah, so are you guys gonna
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: do like the the like Taylor Swiss version or like
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the you know Taylor's version, You're gonna do like the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Miss may I version like logo and I could like
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: put that on my like the bumper sticker.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: That'd be nice. It wasn't the running. We almost did
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: a Miss may I version, like because we didn't know
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: what to call it, because we didn't want to call
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: it mastered it. We wanted to call it celebrated, like yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: but there was at miss for a second. It wasn't
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Miss Manvers because like, I'm a very I like the caseo.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I like the cheese and the theatric stuff. So if
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it was up to me, I'd full throttle the cheese
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: ball stuff because I think that's I love the entertainment
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: of the like that's so fun and hit the brakes
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, well maybe maybe like a really die hard
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: fan can make that like logo with the you know,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: with the like Taylor.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Swift, somebody will do it. You just wait, Yes, it
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: needs it needs to.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Be out in the world.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Before we get into your top five, Levi, I'd love
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: to hear just a little bit about just kind of
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like faith stuff, Like we're not a like we're not
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: like a Christian podcast where we like don't care about
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like is Miss may I a Christian band, Like we
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit about any of that, but like
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I do know, like obviously like you all at some point,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you were certainly a part of like the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: youth group world at some point, and you've talked a
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: little bit about kind of like your faith being important
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: in your life. I'm curious, like kind of where you're
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: at in that, is like that something that still matters
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: to you? Is that something that maybe matters a little less,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just curious kind of where you're at when
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you think about that part of your own life personally.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say posts pandic, So yeah, I like
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: went in deeds group and went to church on my own.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: My mom. That's not like it's something my mom's into.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: She's not not into that. But she he had like
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: church trauma that you hear about like from growing up.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Like she that was her. She was like a West
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Virginia girl group. She has like some crazy stories. So
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: she wasn't when she never really put that on me.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: But even before I lived in Troy, I lived in
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: even smaller town that we only had a soda machine
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: in a church. There's no sidewalks, and I would just
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: I like went to that church and went I went
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to youth group like all through Jehio before I lived
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: in Detroit, and so I had I had some of
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: that background. Some of the guys didn't. So that's like
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: why we ever really why I would have interviews like
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: this and they would like get on me because like
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: you can't say that because it's not a group thing,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, you're right. So I was. I was
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: following at church for a while. I got out of
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: it sort of like in high school. My wife was
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: very conservative. It's a church, and I would I would
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: have to say probably like twenty seventeen on tour, So
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: it's like past forward a bunch of years. I wasn't yeah,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: like I was just I was always I've always been
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: a positive guy. I'm like mainly been sober. I had
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: my like weed days through living in California and then
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: coming coming back like that's ever happened to everybody go
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to California from twenty seventeen, Like I went through a
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: really hard time and then pandemic did not help. I
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: came out like I think now more than ever in
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: my life, I'm like the.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Most the ritual.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: First time ever been. I'm like, that's like that's all
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: the podcasts and everything I listened to. It's just it's
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: sort of a non religious base. That's that's just where
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I'm at in my life now. It's where I can't
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: pick a religion and I have to struggle now because
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I actually there's like universal churches and all this and
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: then like go mysels underline of like a certain legion,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: and I'm like I just let it go somewhere like
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: a positive space about like universe like just spirituality. Like
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: so I'm like very into that because I had just
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I think it was our tour in twenty eighteen. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: went to the Southeast Asia tour. I mean it just
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I'm was like in a really dark time in my life.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: This is like we're talking about having kids, rolling down
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: and like all I knew was the band. And then
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: at that time, we're in Southeast Asia and we're huge there.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: We play like a reada's there and so like I'm
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: having those conversations with my wife and this is happening
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, well conflicted, and the guide who's with us, Wow,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get deep on the church. The guy who
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: is with us, Me and him are super close even
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: to this day. His name's the Dean. Shout out with
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: the Dean a lot of people. He's the best. If
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: you go to Asia, he's your guy. He can speak
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: all languages, he takes it everywhere. And he knew I
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: was having this hard time in this confliction, so he would,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: like me and him would bulk together and like we
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: would spend a lot of time together because he used
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to be muddled, like he was just a spiritual guy
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: and yeah, he was just talking me through it. And
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: then we would just go on on these like jungle walks.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I tried, like my I don't know how to not stress.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: So I like, I like the deprivation tanks, but I
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: don't know how to like relax. I can't meditate stuff.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't work, so I have to like force it,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: like do a deprivation tank, and the like I puked
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: out all my emotions. So he that was my first
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: time I did like psychedelics him, and he was just
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: keeping me chill, like really like think about the answer
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: or what you want to do. And that just opened
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: my mind to like really believing like that there's something
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: greater going on. And then it also opened my mind
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: to where like I don't think anyone has the answers
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: because it's big than the answers. So that's like really
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: hard for me to like put my feet down or
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: like get in the group. But I actually long for
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: that more than anything because I just want to talk
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: about it and like dig deep with people. So it's
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: a really it's a confliction now being so spiritual in
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: my life because I know I don't know where to
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: go because it's like everything is like got corporate or
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: has like a structure, and I'm like, you can't put
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: a structure on it because it ruins it. Like I'm
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: trying to find the right thing. Yeah, I'm I'm like
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that's why I just did like all a thousand and
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: sixty days of like I broke the streak. It was
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: one thousand and sixty eight of a running, so I
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: did like two miles a day. I was like trying
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: to meditate, run and just really, yeah, I'm just trying
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: to I do that. I'm doing everything I can to,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like I'm becoming more self aware and spiritual. And now
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like three weeks new, like a sober detox. I
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: just I'm really just trying to like figure that out.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: And it hasn't been like the best journey. So I'm
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: probably like two thousand nights a little through the pandemic
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: to like today, I'm a little spiritual i've ever been,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: because I like the leaving it like I went and
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: with always a question and I walked down Niece and
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I did some psychedelics and I was like, I'm like
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: I just needed like some answers. And I never was
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: a psychedelic person prior to that, like not saying you
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: have to do that, but that's like we're really pushing it.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Like I was a skeptic and that like even going
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: into that I'm like, you're not gonna make me see shit,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna make me feel stuff. And I was like, okay,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: this was crazy and it took. I just have so
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: many guards up, I think because like childhood is rough,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: so I have so many guards. That's my long answer, guys,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: that's my therapy answer for you.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, we like it, that's we like it. That's a
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: that's a that's an interesting journey, and it's it's it's
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: a journey that probably has.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: No real end, no, And I love that is ideal
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: ideally ideal. Yeah, yeah, and I'm just thinking, yeah, I
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: love that.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I've I'm in like the theology world, and
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I have a number of friends who are scholars, and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: there's a few of them that are actually doing a
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: lot of research right now and psychedelics and spirituality, and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: it's so fascinating some of the the like research and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: studies that are coming out that they're part of. It's
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: it's really cool. So anyway, there's like so much that's
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: coming out of that world right now around like psychedelics
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: in general, and you know, it's like it's capacities to heal,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: but specifically around like religious trauma or like just generally
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: like spiritual life and psychedelics. It's like amazing, like some
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: of the things that are coming out right now. So anyway,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that's really cool that like that's something that was really
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: meaningful and impactful for you. It is.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, I would love to I
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: now I was having kids. I want them to like
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: have a head start ceiling. So that's why I'm always
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: looking for like churches and stuff, and like my in
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: law go to church. But I'm like, it's not like well,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I'll try to take in that. I'm like, that's not
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: what I'm trying to get across. Like you know, it's
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: hard to find when I'm trying to get a cross.
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: You should just take him to an ayahuasca shaman.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: Seriously, so the guy it went five year old. So
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: to get into details like I did, like my friend
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: walked me through, but we got a shaman to drug
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: deliver on like D and T. And that's like what
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I did and what made it real emotional for me
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: to not just be like, oh I got hold. He
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: was like okay, did you think whenever he last like
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: ten minutes, I was like yeah, I was crazy. I
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: was like okay, like looking up and he just told
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: me prior He's like, build any research. Now, do some research.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: And what made me just break down in tears was
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: like everyone ten for ten in the world had Saul
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: and had the same thing. And I was just like,
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: there's so much more going on because like I couldn't
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: explain it. And then I heard people say explaining what
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: that I saw, and I was like, oh shit, I
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: was like, this is not so that's like and mean,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I said, there's no answer, like I'm just longing to
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: like what is going on? This is? It was wild
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: and every time I've done it since, like I made
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: my wife to it on my birthday and got me
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and her closer because I was like, isn't it It's incredible,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Like there's your frequencies all get distorted for a second,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: but then there's a whole other thing happening that's a
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: universal thing that people see and it's just it's incredible.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Sun love that love it. That's why I well, dude,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: that's one thing.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: All right, LEVI you ready for your top five most
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: influential albums. Yes, let's do it, all right, let's do
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: it so any order however you like, maybe you want
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: to do it chronologically. Maybe you actually have a specific
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: order where it's like this is my top like most
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: influential album or whatever. But however you want to do it,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: but start wherever you want.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Okay. So yeah, I would say like what got me
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: into music? And like I said earlier, like just me
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: and a mom connecting and just like sort of realize
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: what she was trying to tell me was like heavy
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: music and just music in general. Is Oh what's then
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: it's it's the used album, the second the second used
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: album might be talking. It's self titled. It has some
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: boxing shop arm checks on it. I don't remember the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: use self titled order. Yeah yeah it was their first one.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Uh yes, okay, yeah it was their first album. Yeah
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: so that album, seriously, that was That was the I'll
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: always say that was my only like poster boy band,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Like I had posts in my room. I had like
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: all of them merch you know, Mom would see him
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: anytime fast forward. It's funny because Warp tour and now
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: anytime they're in town, like we're homies and I sing
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: because he can't pee me anymore. Thoughts full of starm
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: moms exp them and it's like full sirple. It's funny
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: because yeah, now we're homies, and it's like Don warp
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Toy's like, hey, can you sing this for me? I'm like, yeah,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I've been saying that since I was thirteen, I got you.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the weirdest thing in the world of like,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: you know again, I think about it as like, you know,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Colin and I are from small town South Dakota, and
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: you know, we grow up listening to all these bands.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: They become heroes of ours and now we like get
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to interview them and in some cases we become good
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: friends with some of them. And it's like it still
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: blows my mind that that's even like that it's a possibility,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: because yeah, when I was like thirteen in small town
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: South Dakota, nobody's famous, Like, you don't know anybody remotely famous.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: So the fact that like you've get some people who
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: are like your heroes and you get to actually become
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: friends with them, it's like such a bizarre thing that
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, life is kind of odd.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's so weird. Yeah, and you just think of
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the how many people are in the world. You're like,
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: how fortunate. I don't know, I was sometimes getting a
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: snowball of just like over analysis. I'm like, that's just.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Crazy, so mm hmm, totally all right. So they used yes,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: what else do you got?
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, and then I would say second would be let's
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: say a notion's between us with by as They Dying.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: That got me into metal core. So I didn't really
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: understand or get metal core until I heard Nothing Left
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: off that album and he literally, yeah, we like Miss May.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: I was like a carbon copy of that band because
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: we like which is funny because lines in that band now,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: but we were like a carbon copy just because we
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: just like idolized them, like the riffs and just I
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: never I never heard anything else like And that album
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: to me is like both those albums, all these albums
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: want to say, I'm like, no skip albums. To me,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: they're just like they're incredible. I still listen to me
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: to day. And then the album that got into being
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: a vocalist or being a vocalist I am today, like
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to sound like would be Alsho Perish
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: the Price of Existence. So that is an album that
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: so I've never really been into hardcore or into like punk,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: and I think it's like I really I don't listen
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: to lyrics too, like, which is very odd for people
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: because they're like, no sing the same way. I totally
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: get that. To me, it's like an instrument. Like to me,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: it's a rip. I'm like just listening to the patterns.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't get a crap the song's about.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: And he was the his vocals, he did the whole
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: range like he did high as well as made the
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: school of every single in like one line and it
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: was almost like he was ripping with the guitar, like
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: with the guitars and similar to Black Dolly and but
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: like a whole other level. And Yeah, when when we
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: were like writing songs after that album came out, that's
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: all I wanted to be. I was like, I want
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: to be like this because to me, he was like
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Eddie was like he wasn't like this because there was
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: no platforms like there are now. But he was like
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the Will Ramos of the time, like no one would
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: coin him that, but he was doing stuff and no
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: one ever heard and I was just like, right, and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: he didn't. There's no platform so like he didn't get
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: big and famous like people do now. It was just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: like an underground thing. But I was like, I've never
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: heard anything like this, and that made me want to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: just be dynamic as a vocalist. Like I was like,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to learn how to do everything so I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: could just throw it out whenever I want and I
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: could riff with the guitar riffs, do my own melody
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: on top of them. So and it's so The cool
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: thing is they just came back. I've never got to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: really see them live, and they came back. I saw
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: him two weeks agout the incarceration tour. Dude, well, first
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: of all blew my mind, but you would be you
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: would so that band never they got big and they
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: were never huge. The front of the house was packed.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Well band, guys, all my age we're all like this
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: album changed my life, Like everyone consider the consensus was
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: just like this was the album and they would play
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: solos at the album and it was just like forty
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: bad guys just ship Like I literally drove all the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: way there and just see them playing to Yeah, that album.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: They're like the band's band kind of thing, yes, for sure,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: and my age group that was the thing too. It's like,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: obviously there's a ton of bands at the festival, but
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: it was all my age group, all my homies, and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: it's people I didn't even know. Listen to that like
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: album and we're just like, dude, this album and we're
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: just like that cow Bell or deep that rant wards
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: like oh and they would just play like and if
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: they were so good lives and Eddie got me and
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: so my wife was tattooed sorry as Eddie snuck me in.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: So me and Eddie are homies now because he got
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: he like stuck me my artist past and hung out
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: and it's just the funny full circle thing, just like
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: bird because I'm like, dude, I I picked up a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: mic because he and because because I see him in
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Suicide Science all the time, which like I love suicide,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: but to see him in allso Paris, I was like dash,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: like that's my jam so mm hmm. And then oh,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: okay for it. Oh so I would say, oh, okay,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: now want to get a little little stad Nemo in
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: this one, I would say, Ohio's for Lovers really was
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: a huge album for me because the guitar player, Mica Carly.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: He was from Troy, Oh, which is nuts, because we
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: used to this is weird, so don't think were freaks,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: but we knew where he lived and where it's like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: house and he still lived with the like when they
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: blew up, he still lived in his mom's house, and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: he was their trash can have guitar boxes and guitar
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: strings and all the stuff, because he was just like
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: they were when they were huge. They were huge, five
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: semi trucks bus and they were coming from small town
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: toy and you're just like the whole town was shut down.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: You're like, what hopping heights. I remember when I heard
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: them in Taco Bell. I'm like, you're on Taco Bell.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: They really made it like you're on a radio radio.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: We would go and like shift through their trash can
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: and like roll up the guitar strings and like tape
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: them up and like hang them on my wall, and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I get guitar strings. It was just crazy,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: so like like not only covering them, but like just
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: knowing other than like seeing product out which probably was
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: bid but awful kind was like a whole other level
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: like this yeah, totally yeah, just to know that that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: could happen. I mean that was just so inspirational. And
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: the album that's a no skip album, like people can
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: can say emails. What it is like Emo didn't have
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: the rap that has now during that time, so it's
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: like you had to be there, Like that was that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: album freaking change thing. And they talked about Ohio. It's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: just like they're talking about a place that You're like,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I can never having heard nobody cares about us sick.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: It's always la New York Chicago, and they're like, we're
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: from Ohio. Love it, and I'm just like, this is
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: we can actually like people care. This is cool. So
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the album was huge and it's okay, we we're talking
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: about not listening to their lyrics. You'd be surprised how
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: long I listened to that song until I realized he
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: was saying Ohio. I'm just like jamming, and like it
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: took me like years. I'm like, oh, he's saying Ohio
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: in the song, and like I just never listened to
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the lyrics.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah blood, Yeah, I'm I'm the same exact way like
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I'm I suck at karaoke almost for that reason, because
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've listened to this song maybe thousands of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: times and I'm just realizing right now what the actual
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: lyrics are.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I do in my wife sometimes I'm like, hey, I'm
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: like this song, I can't believe the saying. She's like
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: yeah no, and I'm like I just now I'm listening.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's a good song. He's really, it's a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: good lyrics. And I would say, oh, it's a time.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I would say under roads. They're only chasing state wise.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you're going to see them on the tour, right,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: what's up? You're going to see them on there Chasing
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Safety tour right.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't know they're doing Chasing tour is just announced?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: What? No?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: No, I.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, oh my goodness, Okay, Yeah, they're they're doing a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: nationwide tour where they're because it's twentieth anniversary this year,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: it's crazy, so they're yeah, they're they're doing a They're
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: doing an entire nationwide tour. They might be even going
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: like overseas at some point too, but yeah, they're they're
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: going all around the nation right now. Actually, I don't
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: think they've started. I think they're starting sometime in sei.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, I would not miss that for Shure. Yeah, that
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: album because that was like because the anthem like Prada
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: was big, but that album was like the pinnacle of
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: like the venues we were playing and like we would
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: like yeah, and it was just so heavy and we're
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: all and just like that was an album too to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: where like Prada was too heavy for like a lot
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: of my like for my wife and some of my friends.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: But under Oath was like the general consensus and like
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: being like, yo, we we can all see this, we
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: can all love this well, and like it was really
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: a good barrier of like because in Ohio really until
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: we were of age, like over twenty one, we only
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: could play Christian views, so like they were just yeah.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: That was the other thing, is like it was like
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: a just something we had in common with someone else.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, this album. Yeah. And then like their look,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: like the look of those guys during that album, that's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: like all I wanted to look like, Like I wouldn't
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: give anything to look like those guys. And I remember
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: they played they were so big. They played the attic
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Wi I was talking about earlier, our hometown menu. They
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: were so big that I sold out so quick that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: they played a matinee and sold in a house. So
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: they played two shut back to back on tour and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I had friends just like my two tickets and like
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: school just talked about it for like years after. Remember
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: under Oath like that was nuts. Yeah, and that's another
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: no skip album. Those are all most skips, oh, without
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: a doubt.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that album in a lot of
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: ways is what It wasn't the first album that I
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: loved that was like a heavy album, but it was
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: the first heavy album I truly fell in love with.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Like my whole identity in like sixth and seventh grade
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: was under Oath, Like that's what I want If I
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: could have been in Under Oath, that's what I would
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: have wanted to do, you know, like I just my
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: whole Like everything about that album really changed everything. And
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: then obviously once defined the great line came out, it
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like this is even almost better.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: But but it all started with Chasing Safety for me.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's it's so funny how they were
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: like the like the models of what everyone like how
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: Spencer war is belt. I'm like I need to buy
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: that belt, like I would look outline or I need
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: the belt he's where like yeah.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I would grow I remember growing out my
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: hair and trying to like put it over like one
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: eye and everything too, and I was like, I could,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I could never Like I didn't. My collic didn't quite
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: work for it. But I was like, I tried my best.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Tape in your mind, like tape like doing everything. I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: was like, that's what they do percent.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that those are unbelievable albums and it totally
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: makes sense, like you know, you guys sound like you
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: can definitely hear some of those influences without a doubt.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: So a great list, LEVI, what do you want to plug?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Obviously the re recording be coming out shortly. Yeah, what
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: do you want to plug? Maybe there's some shows in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, what do you want to plug for?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Miss may I? Yeah, so we have on this tour
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: coming up, we have some new music with the new lineup,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: which are very excited. So will be new music coming out,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: so keep an eye off on that before the tour.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: So anytime now, there's gonna be some music coming out.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's the first new music with a new lineup,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: so we're just very excited to that. We feel like
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: we're sixteen again. So I that's gonna be awesome.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Just the plug plug, Well, I was just about to
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: do anything else you'd like to plug?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm also starting another band, me and my wife.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, me and my wife are doing a punk
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: band with them. Very stuffed about really yeah, we're taking
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: the girls out. I think that my my I know
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: my daughter is a little young, but they can really
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: like just make it happen. One's one and a half,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Mollie and my little girl's four, and she's the she's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: the one that screams, right, that's what we were thinking. Yeah,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: so some of the backing vocals, because no one's done that.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: It's just another like harmony that you never really heard. Yeah,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: we're vocals. Who else is playing what instrument? Like, what's
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: your wife doing? So my wife we met, so she
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: we met playing drums, So she really is gonna play
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: drums in this band. And then so our old merch
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: guy he got when we brought my other daughter out
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: actually and tour, he got a harmonicle just really really
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: happened to know rock and'll Hall of Fame and she
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: really good at harmonica. Now, so it's more like a
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: bluesy punk like hides slash, like New Orleans blues band. Yeah,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: it's cooled, no guitars or bass, it's just really like
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: percussion driven love that some demos. Yeah, we have some
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: demo's been working on so very slinky that out. Heck.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm glad, Like I mean, we don't need
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: any more guitar centric music in the world in my opinion.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, like to have just like some babies
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: like beaten on whatever they can beat on and then
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: but you know, you and your wife can just like
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: sing love songs to each other or whatever like you know,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: as as the kids just like create chaos and mayhem
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: of you know, punk music. What a like what a
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: lovely what a lovely family? Not just like lovely music?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: What a lovely family?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's full circle. We met playing shows together. Now
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: we're playing shows together with our kids. So it was
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: meant to be mean, like it's.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: Like the next like Jackson five or the Carpenters or something.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and this is just the beginning, guys,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna mix it up. Yeah, that tour
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: called the Bentons or what's what's the name is? Yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Bitten four is like that was a working title. We
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: have some we have some titles, but yeah, definitely gonna
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: have Bitten there. You know, I spell it a little different.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: We're thinking, like I'm like the Russian Current League, just
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: to make it so we can do some European festivals
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: so Miss may I and the family can come out
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: the same time. Yeah, should be starting. I think rangling.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: Miss may I is done touring the end of this year. Jan.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: We were looking at some shows. Love it well.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: You know, if Miss may I doesn't work out, you know,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: they at least got this nice little backup for yourself
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: and you know, new outlet.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: What could have happened with that? Yeah, new creative outlet.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: There's some things of get off my chest. I probably
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: do it there you go, love it well.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Leave.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: I thank you so much for chatting about the history
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: of Miss may I. Super just it was unbelievable to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: hear a little bit more about the history, what you
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: all are up to, the signing and obviously the re recording.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Super excited to see you all out on tour very soon.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm just really really appreciative for your willingness
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: to come on and chat with Colin and I so
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me guys.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: K