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Best of Chuck & Buck 11-18 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Shirk.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, folks.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning everyone, Good morning, it's some time.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning class.
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  Speaker 4: Lady and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, behold in producing six one guard from Brighton,
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  Speaker 5: Illinois and former high school basketball stand what in the
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  Speaker 5: hell does that mean?
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  Speaker 6: Don't jumped any conclusions.
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  Speaker 1: Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 3: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting some Bucky jacobs and vibes and former I'll
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  Speaker 6: just openly admit I'm a fat, out of shape x athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 3: Five seven guard and a former college water polo national champions.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the morning with
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  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan, talk to you, buy to Lada Casino Resort,
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  Speaker 3: and quill see the Greek Draftking sports book where the
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  Speaker 3: action never stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning and welcome in. It is ay Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Powell, Bucket, Jacobson and Ashley Ryan with you and
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  Speaker 1: ready to deliver four hours of sports talk radio. That's
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  Speaker 1: where we go all the way until ten o'clock here
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  Speaker 1: this morning and all sorts of those familiar guests, familiar
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  Speaker 1: voices that you've heard right here with us on Chuck
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  Speaker 1: and Buck coming your way here today, aren't you really?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't know. I realized what
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  Speaker 1: I got into when I moved here. I've never really
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  Speaker 1: complained about the weather. But we've had enough rain, had
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  Speaker 1: enough rain.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't really rained too bad this morning, though, right
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  Speaker 4: was it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying this morning. I'm just being in general
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  Speaker 1: like it just like it won't stop raining. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: had enough, had enough for a little while. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: we can get a little break from.
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  Speaker 4: It, Yeah, make a break.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I just love how green it is. And
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  Speaker 6: every time I get to where, I'm like, man, I'm damp.
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  Speaker 6: I'm damp. I don't like being damp. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 6: it is beautiful. I got to look around and remember
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  Speaker 6: that's why we It's as beautiful as it is most
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  Speaker 6: of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Josh Naylor was obviously not scared away by the
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  Speaker 1: rain and drawn to the beauty that is the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: Because our first Baseman made it official yesterday. He has
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  Speaker 1: signed a brand new deal five years, ninety two point
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  Speaker 1: five million dollars Josh Naylor is going to remain a
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  Speaker 1: Seattle Mariner. There will be a press conference a little
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  Speaker 1: bit later on today we'll get to hear those kernels
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  Speaker 1: of wisdom from one of the smartest, most intelligent, most
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful people in all of Major League Baseball, Josh Naylor,
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  Speaker 1: and also the principles that made it happen. So that's
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  Speaker 1: coming a little bit later on today. We'll have a
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  Speaker 1: chance tomorrow to kind of react to what we heard.
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  Speaker 1: But certainly, I mean, I think it's one of those stories,
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  Speaker 1: and I've been here a decade now and it's just
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  Speaker 1: one of those stories where it just looks like it
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  Speaker 1: worked out for more people than anything that I think
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  Speaker 1: that we've come across that the front office got what
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  Speaker 1: they want. Maybe the ownership didn't get exactly what they wanted,
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  Speaker 1: but they did what they needed to do. Fan base
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  Speaker 1: got what they want, media got what they want, and
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  Speaker 1: based off of Josh Naylor's printed words yesterday, he got
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  Speaker 1: exactly what he wanted as well.
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  Speaker 6: Seems like he fell in love with this place. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that's great. I mean, you know, that's one of the
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  Speaker 6: things you were hoping for, right is that when he
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  Speaker 6: would get here and he did get here before there
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  Speaker 6: was any rain. He got here right at the best
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  Speaker 6: possible time when it comes to the weather, and so
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  Speaker 6: maybe that was part of it. I think the way
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  Speaker 6: in which the season went, you know, he had some
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  Speaker 6: big moments. Then he gets to kind of reap the
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  Speaker 6: rewards of what that feels like and how embraced he
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  Speaker 6: was by the fan base. I think that there's you know,
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  Speaker 6: kind of kudos to the fan base because I think
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  Speaker 6: in large part when he was gonna possibly miss games
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  Speaker 6: because of the birth of his first kid, I think
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  Speaker 6: that there's some other fan bases that would have been like, no,
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  Speaker 6: you do not miss a baseball game for that, And
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that was the overarching thought here. I
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  Speaker 6: think that may have played into the whole thing, but
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  Speaker 6: it probably mostly comes down to Jimmy Naylor just thinking
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  Speaker 6: I really like this group of guys and I think
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  Speaker 6: that they're you know, that it's a good team and
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  Speaker 6: kind of wants to continue the ride that he got
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  Speaker 6: to jump in on halfway through the season and maybe
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  Speaker 6: see if he can help take this team to heights
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  Speaker 6: that they have never reached.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, there it was a little bit dangerous
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  Speaker 1: letting him hit the free agent market. I mean you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of go back to the offseason where in
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  Speaker 1: Stove Anders and I talked about the entire offseason the
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  Speaker 1: addition of Josh Naylor. They decided not to make that
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  Speaker 1: change her and then they do it at the trading deadline,
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  Speaker 1: and fine, you got him at the trading deadline. You
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  Speaker 1: got him when it matters the most, and he helped
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  Speaker 1: us win a division and certainly had enough time to
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  Speaker 1: win over the fan base and be won over by
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  Speaker 1: the organization and by the city. So it all worked out.
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  Speaker 1: But had you add like a full gear with him,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it would have been easier. Maybe you wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: run the risk of him getting to free agency. But
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  Speaker 1: there certainly was a little bit of risk of him
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  Speaker 1: getting to free agency. I mean the Mets, the Yankees,
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  Speaker 1: the Red Sox, those are all three of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: spenders in the sport, and they all need first basement.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the.
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers don't need one, Cubs don't need one, but those
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  Speaker 1: three are all looking for first basement this offseason. So
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  Speaker 1: when you let free agency begin and Josh Naylor was
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  Speaker 1: not signed, I mean, he probably waits this out the
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  Speaker 1: right way, and he probably makes more money than what
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  Speaker 1: he ended up signing with. He probably gets those three
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  Speaker 1: teams into a bidding war once Alonso Pete Alonso chooses
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  Speaker 1: one of them over the other, then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden he's got an opportunity to possibly cash in on
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  Speaker 1: a bigger prize.
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  Speaker 6: But I love the fact. I love the fact that the.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners were out in front of this and that Josh Naylor,
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  Speaker 1: and this would have been my judge of his personality,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't about the highest offer that.
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  Speaker 6: He could get.
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  Speaker 1: He could have waited this out and saw if there
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  Speaker 1: was a larger offer to get, but instead the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: met him with a reasonable market value offer. My guess
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  Speaker 1: is they probably wanted him for a four year deal,
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  Speaker 1: maybe at eighty and he's like, Eh, this is my
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  Speaker 1: one chance to really make my money in the major leagues,
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  Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna do is ask for a five
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  Speaker 1: and then I think that they probably did settle on that.
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  Speaker 1: But the Mariners obviously came out of the gates with
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  Speaker 1: something that he and his agency felt was very reasonable,
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  Speaker 1: and he obviously didn't need to go test the market.
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  Speaker 1: Why do I need to see greener pastures. I'm perfectly
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  Speaker 1: happy here, I got the offer that I was hoping
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  Speaker 1: for leading up to this process. I'm not gonna let
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  Speaker 1: my agent screw this up for me. This is a
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  Speaker 1: great place for me to be. This is a potentially
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  Speaker 1: great team for the next few years, and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be making great money, so i don't need to
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  Speaker 1: make the most money.
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  Speaker 6: I'm happy with what we've got.
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  Speaker 1: So I think there were a lot of things that
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  Speaker 1: went to work here that really worked out well, including
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  Speaker 1: ownership offering something of reasonable market value right out of
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  Speaker 1: the shoot.
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  Speaker 6: He definitely didn't play the long game. I mean, I
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  Speaker 6: would have to think that as somebody else. The second
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  Speaker 6: that the World Series was over and he could have
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  Speaker 6: received calls or his agent could she calls it, somebody
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  Speaker 6: would have been calling. I think that's we know that
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  Speaker 6: the ownership, in the front office and the team, everybody
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  Speaker 6: in Seattle was wanting Josh Naylor back, and I think
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  Speaker 6: that they had said stuff like that that was well.
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  Speaker 6: I know that the front office is that that's our
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  Speaker 6: number one priority right when the season was over, right
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  Speaker 6: and even before that, I think they probably had had
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  Speaker 6: talks about like, well, you are a good fit here,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's staying around the batting cage or bs and
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  Speaker 6: in the clubhouse, and whether or not that was a hey,
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  Speaker 6: we got a job to do right now, I could
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  Speaker 6: see him being like, we got a job to do.
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  Speaker 6: We'll take care of that business when it's time to
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  Speaker 6: take care of that business. So I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 6: it worked. If it was all right, you're a free
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  Speaker 6: agent now, please let us have final say, right if
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  Speaker 6: somebody contacts you, please let us have final say, or
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  Speaker 6: if he was just playing and simple. He loved the clubhouse,
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  Speaker 6: he loved the city, he loved what the potential is
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  Speaker 6: here in Seattle, And basically they just started working on
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  Speaker 6: this deal from the get go. Regardless of what was
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  Speaker 6: going on behind the scenes, the front office stayed true
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  Speaker 6: to their their their path or their plan, which was
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  Speaker 6: we we went out there, we got this guy the
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  Speaker 6: trade deadline. They you know, they don't like giving up
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  Speaker 6: prospects to do that, and then doing so, you gave
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  Speaker 6: up the basically the closest thing to a major league
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  Speaker 6: ready first baseman and Tyler Locklear, and so I think
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  Speaker 6: that they would like to they would have liked to
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  Speaker 6: figure out how this thing went. And then as the
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  Speaker 6: season went on, as the second half went on with
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  Speaker 6: himbe it probably became even more apparently we not only
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  Speaker 6: would we like to keep him, we can't not keep
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  Speaker 6: this guy. If we can get him for the right price,
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  Speaker 6: then we you know, if we don't have to get
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  Speaker 6: into a bidding war with somebody that would overpay for
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  Speaker 6: his services, then let's do that. So they were on it.
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  Speaker 6: They were on it from the get go. I'm sure
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  Speaker 6: that they just were like, dude, just please here, take
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  Speaker 6: this whatever whatever the cost is, if it's in this
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  Speaker 6: in this realm, let's get this job done. And I'm
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  Speaker 6: glad that they did because I think that he's He's
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  Speaker 6: a guy that kind of brings a heartbeat to the
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  Speaker 6: team that they were missing. I think as far as
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  Speaker 6: the Ghos.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's the other side of it. If they don't
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  Speaker 1: get this deal done with him, who, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where you're searching for your first basement, because you're right,
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  Speaker 1: they traded away the first basement of the closest thing
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  Speaker 1: to the first basement of the future.
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  Speaker 6: To get him, which we're all good with.
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  Speaker 1: And they obviously aren't going to go out there and
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  Speaker 1: pay top dollar for free agencies free agency players. So
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  Speaker 1: Pete Alonso and Cody Bellinger might very well price themselves
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  Speaker 1: out of the Seattle market. And if you don't keep
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  Speaker 1: Naylor and he's on with one of those other teams, Now,
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  Speaker 1: where are you searching? Where are you getting your first basement?
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  Speaker 1: You've got this massive hole now at first base and
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  Speaker 1: a pretty thin market. I mean Murakami, he's a third baseman,
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  Speaker 1: but there's talk that he might move to first base
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly. But you did avoid by making this and
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  Speaker 1: getting this done right now. Man, if I'm Jerry, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm just an and I'm looking at my off season checklist,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't think is very deep, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: just to warn people, if I'm looking at my off
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  Speaker 1: season checklist, man, that first base, that nailer thing. I
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  Speaker 1: felt so good going back to that piece of paper
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  Speaker 1: and marking that check because I don't not only do
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  Speaker 1: I get what I wanted, and I'm the first person
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  Speaker 1: in the entire offseason, I'm the first franchise to get
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  Speaker 1: what I wanted this offseason. I don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about not having Josh Naylor. And I mean that's that's
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  Speaker 1: killing two birds with one stone right there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the market's then, and yet it's an important position.
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  Speaker 6: One the position and how well he plays it defensively,
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  Speaker 6: but that spot in the lineup too, just the middle
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  Speaker 6: of the lineup guy. And then again the intangibles, the
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  Speaker 6: things that you can't find on a spreadsheet or a
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  Speaker 6: stat sheet of what he brings to the table is
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  Speaker 6: something I don't know for sure if it's out there.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, you got some higher priced guys, some
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  Speaker 6: guys that maybe are have higher upside offensively, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like the Polar Bear for example. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 6: see Josh Naylor hitting forty fifty home runs, and that's
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  Speaker 6: fine because he also steals thirty bags. But I do
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  Speaker 6: see him as bringing something to the table that I
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  Speaker 6: don't know Pete Alonso, but I would be willing to
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  Speaker 6: bet he doesn't have that same thing, that same grit,
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  Speaker 6: that same thing that is it's hard to put. You know,
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  Speaker 6: there's no number really that you can't put on it.
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  Speaker 6: And yet they went out there and probably put a
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  Speaker 6: number up there that maybe was a little bit more
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  Speaker 6: made them a little bit more uncomfortable. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 6: the most they've ever spent on a free agent since
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  Speaker 6: you know, Jerry Depoto and Hollander have been in control
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  Speaker 6: of those things. So I'm sure it made them a
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  Speaker 6: little bit uncomfortable. At the same time, it's not like
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  Speaker 6: you're going out there and spending you know, ninety two
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  Speaker 6: million bucks on somebody you don't know for sure how
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  Speaker 6: they're gonna meld with the rest of the team. You
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  Speaker 6: just basically added a guy to the nucleus of this
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  Speaker 6: team for the next five years. And I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I keep hearing that that that's the most they've ever spent,
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  Speaker 1: didn't they sign Robbie Ray to a five year, one
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  Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar deal.
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  Speaker 6: Position players?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, position players, Okay, that's what they're saying. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I kept hearing that. I'm well, it's not like they've
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  Speaker 1: never done this before.
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  Speaker 6: And the Depoto era now position players, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 6: the Cano was before that, but that was before Depoto. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: that was before Depoto.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: As far as position players go, Mitch Garver was the
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  Speaker 6: biggest one.
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  Speaker 4: That worked out.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it didn't work out at all, No, that didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I had that one walk, remember big walk.
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  Speaker 7: I do think that.
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  Speaker 1: I love that Bucky missed the big game that Garver had,
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  Speaker 1: like the like the Cubs game. You didn't even see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's the one game that he contributed mightily to. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like God willed that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna save Bucky from seeing this guy one good moment.
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  Speaker 2: I tried.
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  Speaker 6: I stuck by that side, Guy's side as long as
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  Speaker 6: I could.
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  Speaker 8: I do. Like though, like as far as the Naylor
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  Speaker 8: signing goes, it it helps the Mariners in the sense
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  Speaker 8: that here's here's what we told you is how we
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  Speaker 8: like to do things. We like to bring in people
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  Speaker 8: at the trade deadline. We like to make sure that
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  Speaker 8: they fall in love with the city. We like to
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  Speaker 8: see how things go, and then you know, look, this
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  Speaker 8: worked out just how we kind of talked about it
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  Speaker 8: after the season when we were asked about trade deadline
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  Speaker 8: and free agency and all of these things. And then
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  Speaker 8: on top of it, now you've you've built all this
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  Speaker 8: excitement and this goodwill going to the playoffs, and now
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  Speaker 8: you're showing, look, yeah, we recognized it, we saw what
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  Speaker 8: it did, and now we're going to do something about it,
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  Speaker 8: and you're building continuing that goodwill with the fans, which
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  Speaker 8: goodness knows is needed.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that, like I said, this sort of felt
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  Speaker 1: like an obvious go go for it kind of situation.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know what they would have been left
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  Speaker 1: with had they not worked this out with the Nailor.
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  Speaker 1: It would have it might have been searching high and
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  Speaker 1: low to try to come up with something that they
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  Speaker 1: felt because they don't do anything that is not financially
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  Speaker 1: that they're not financially okay with. They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: just go, oh, we didn't couldn't get Nailer. We have
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  Speaker 1: no choice. We gotta spend whatever it takes to get Alonso.
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  Speaker 1: That's not out they operate. So I mean for this
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  Speaker 1: to get done this quickly, man, let the good times roll.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is yeah to your point. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is some great momentum heading into the off season.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest priority. I think that they
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  Speaker 1: will make a priority out of Jorge Polanco next. I
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  Speaker 1: gotta believe that it's Polonco or Sworez and not Polonco
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  Speaker 1: and Sworez that will be brought back or will be
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  Speaker 1: made a priority here in the off season.
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  Speaker 6: I don't really know beyond that how aggressive that they'll be.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I mean, they'll make some moves, but keep
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  Speaker 1: in mind last off season was about as dry an
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  Speaker 1: off season as you could spind and it ended up
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  Speaker 1: with an AL West title. I don't think beyond Naylor
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  Speaker 1: and Polanco they are going to be all that aggressive
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  Speaker 1: this off season. And I frankly think that if they
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  Speaker 1: get Naylor and Polonko, it's gonna be kind of a
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  Speaker 1: feed up on the desk. Ah, all right, whatever happens
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  Speaker 1: from here, you know, we're good. Those are the two
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  Speaker 1: things we wanted to get achieved before the new year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean those are the two big ones, right,
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's probably because of what you just said,
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  Speaker 6: where this isn't an organization and I don't think this
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  Speaker 6: is where. I don't think Tiger will change its stripes drastically,
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  Speaker 6: and they're not going to go like, you know what
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  Speaker 6: that was, that playoff run was really fun. Let's completely
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: change our financial philosophy and just spend bigger than everybody.
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: They're not going to do it now, maybe go outside
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: their comfort zone. But this is one where all right,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: we'll go ahead and do that because of how the
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: cross section of where what we need and what he
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: brings and how it fits and all that stuff goes
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: hand in hand. And yet they still have plenty of
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: moves to make, but I think that I'm with you
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: that it's probably just two, two guys that you had,
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: that you bring those guys back. Hopefully it's two. I
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: hope it's not just one. Hopefully we get Polonko as well.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: And I would choose Polonco far before Gino Suarez, even
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: though I love Gino. I just I just think that
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: pol Uncle has a little bit more of that grit
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: as well, a little bit more gurr and a little
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: less good times. Yeah, and so.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, look, I think they'll kick the tires. I mean,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that's just what they do. They kick the tires on everything.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be thorough. But if they get those two
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: significant pieces done, I think that I think they'll look
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: at it as a successful offseason no matter what happens
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: from there. All right, So Josh Naylor press conference a
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: little bit later on today, Let's find out what is
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: on tap for the rest of our radio show.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: What's on tap?
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: What's on tap?
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: All right?
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Naylor's deal five years, ninety two point five million dollars
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: with no deferrals, going to underline that we actually pay
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: our guys what we say we're going to pay them.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, so he's not getting paid in twenty forty.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's weird.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: H wish everybody had to do that, but yes, Josh
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Naylor press conference a little bit later on today. Also
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later on today, we will
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: do a Josh Naylor Sped Up Stove podcast. Anders Hearst
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and I. We usually do it on Thursdays, but we're
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: going to do it today. Also, I have written out
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: my Crystal Ball forecast for the off season twenty twenty
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: five slash twenty twenty six, and so that will be
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: debuted a little bit later on today as well. College
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: football playoff rankings. It's a Tuesday, so we'll get the
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: brand new list. We'll go over that a little bit
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: later on this hour at six forty five. The latest
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: on that front, interesting surprise twist perhaps to tonight's reveal,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that at six forty five. Rick
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: new Iaa will join us today at nine o'clock as well.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Some other news from college football, as James Franklin already
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: has his brand new job. So the first you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Ball drops some MLB free agency here in Seattle. Well,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this coaching cycle that is happening right in the middle
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: of the season, also at its first shoe drop as well.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: James Franklin picked up by Virginia Tech, so he'll be
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: their next head coach there for the Hokies. Speaking of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: newheisl the fighting Jerry Neuheisel's will be taken on the
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Washington Huskies this week and so we start the preview
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of that matchup. Seahawks loss to LA We're still suffering
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: from that a little bit. Greg Bell will be with
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: us at seven five. We had a lot of the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: ground to cover yesterday with Greg that we didn't get to,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: so we'll try it today. He also has a Gray's
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Abel update for USS hearing good news yesterday that they
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: came back with some positive results from the testing that
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: was done on Gray's Abel. So we'll get the latest
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: from Greg coming up At seven five Monday Night football,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and the Raiders lose to the Dallas Cowboys,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: kind of a blowout, thirty three to sixteen the final
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: score there. We'll play some Factor fiction at seven thirty
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: five today, cracking or in Detroit taking on the Red Wings,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: maybe even sleeping all of them at Everett Fitzhugh's mom's house.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I would imagine everybody just having a little sleep over.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I bet that's delicious food.
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: That's what I imagine.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Anyway, Missus Fitzhugh taking care of all the cracking tonight
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: as they get ready for their game against the Red Wings.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And looks like Victor wembn Yama, who's off to an
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: MVP like start, is heard again and may miss several
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: weeks for the San Antonio Spurs. All right, coming up next,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: is there really some panic meters going off here regarding
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: our quarterback in Seattle? And how does that panic meter
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: compare to some other ones across the National Football League
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: at the coveted quarterback position. We sound the alarms next
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: one twenty to go.
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: In the second quarter, Cowboys down with the thirty seven
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: yard line of the Raiders, the quarterback Dan Prescott in
• 20:54
  Speaker 10: the gun. There's the snap, bakes, the handoff, four man
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: five man rush, throws across the middle, catch it the
• 21:00
  Speaker 10: fifteen out of the twenty and going on the far
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: sikes furbing him.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: That is a touchdown. And that was George Pickens who
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: got it and.
• 21:08
  Speaker 10: Ran backwards and went on that far sideline to curl
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: around defenders and takes it in and pickens a thirty
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: seven yard touchdown reception. Chris Scott has thrown his third
• 21:18
  Speaker 10: touchdown tonight, one to each of his top targets, Lamb
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: Ferguson and Pickens.
• 21:25
  Speaker 11: Devin Harland.
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: Westwood won on the call last night Monday Night Football
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: as the Dallas Cowboys do win over the Las Vegas
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: Raiders by a final score of thirty three to sixteen.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: That concludes this week in the National Football League, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we'll slowly start revving up to next week for the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Seahawks coming off a loss that will be against the
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans this week. Also, we got a pretty positive
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: update on Gray's Zabel.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: We'll get more.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Information coming up with Greg Bell here in a matter
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of moments. Good morning to you, seven o'clock out. We're
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday. Ashley Ryan is here, former Mariner,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson. My name is Chuck Powell. Let's check your
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Frost Brood, choose Chill Corp's light headlines, and we will
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: go to college football where the college football playoff rankings,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the latest are out tonight this evening. I believe they
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: go down at four thirty. There should be a little
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: bit of a shakeup. We should have a new number
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: twelve certainly, and Oklahoma should jump into the rankings this
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: week after their win over Alabama. But how far will
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Klein de Boor and the tide fall We'll find out
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: later on today. Also from college football, James Franklin has
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: a new home, greed to a deal with the Virginia
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Tech Hokies yesterday. Husky's getting ready for their matchup with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: UCLA on Saturday. Elsewhere, you've got the Kraken in Detroit
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: tonight to take on the Red Wings. You can hear
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: that action right here at Sports Radio ninety three point
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: three KJRFM. From the NBA, Wimby's gonna miss a few
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: weeks he's injured again. You dubs an action and hoops
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: tonight against Southern at Mighty Southern. And Josh Naylor later
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: today will meet with the press.
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: He made his new.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Deal official yesterday. He signed the papers on a brand
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: new five year deal for ninety two point five million
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: dollars per season. Today he'll be introduced at a press
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: conference along with all of the powers that be with
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Mariners. So Josh Naylor will be back and
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: for years to come as the first basement of DMS.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I think most people are excited about that. Also, they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: are just as excited about hearing from Greg.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Bell this morning.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: With the bell tolls, it must be seven o'clock and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: time for twelfth Man News with Greg Bell, brought to
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• 23:58
  Speaker 3: here's Greg Bell chucking.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: But fancy new sponsor, fancy new open for Greg Bell.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: He's just living a fancy life right now. He's very fancy.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: He is very very fancy. He's drinking some coffee with
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Pinky up right now.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Oh do you think, well we got Greg give us
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: a play by play of your coffee.
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: Drinking not existing. My wife drinks more coffee than probably
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: all four of us put together. But yeah, no fancy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 11: No one's ever accused me OF's.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Fancy, all right, not quite wrong. I think you know
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: me better than that.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: All right, Well, let's dive into this. Gray's Abel.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: That's what's first and foremost on my mind. I guess
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: they got some good news yesterday.
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: They did really positive according to Mike McDonald, no structural damage.
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: MRI is showing that he doesn't have a major knee injury.
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: It's not season ending. The words that McDonald used that
• 24:55
  Speaker 11: he was told was day to day. Of course, he said,
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: you know what that means. That could be truly day
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: to day, could be week to week, could be a
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: couple of weeks. But the status for Tennessee for him
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: will determine probably the end of the week. Wouldn't expect
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: him to practice yesterday. But when he was on both
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: knees and down face mask into the turf for a
• 25:16
  Speaker 11: multiple man two or three minutes right below me in
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: the press box Sunday in Englewood, it looked worse than
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: what we got the news of yesterday, SAIDs positive se
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: Oark news for sure. I wrote the news tribute that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: probably worthy of a parade for how good Grey's Abel
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: has been. Because Christian Haynes coming in is a big, big,
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: big drop off, and if he doesn't, ifs Able can't
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: play on Sunday in Nashville, it would be Christian Haynes
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: who just came up off injured reserve, but it's not
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: season ending. They will have grays Abel back and that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: a big deal.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Obviously, you don't want to overlook anybody. And yet if
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: there is a team that you might be able to
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: get away with not rushing him back, it would be
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: the Titans. I mean, is this situation where thinking about
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: the long term not just the rest of this season.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Obviously you don't look too terribly far past that, but
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: you do. This guy's young and whatnot? I mean, is
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: this one where if he's good to go, they're gonna
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: put him out there no matter what, or is there
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: any chance they'll just be a little bit more cautious
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: considering the opponent.
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: Well, if he is good to go, he'll play, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks historic go. Their medical staff has been somewhat conservative,
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: where for a guy has any chance of making it
• 26:28
  Speaker 11: worse and injuring himself worth he doesn't play, so for insance,
• 26:33
  Speaker 11: he doesn't practice all week, he probably wouldn't play. And
• 26:36
  Speaker 11: you're right, they never admit it. But I thought Ernest
• 26:39
  Speaker 11: Jones didn't play against Arizona so he could play against
• 26:42
  Speaker 11: the Rams, and they boat rased Arizona, so they could
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: play the Rams, and Jones was fine to do that,
• 26:46
  Speaker 11: although he hit up a big bulky brace as you
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: probably saw outside of his uniform. To answer your question, Yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: if there was ever a game you'd rest the guy
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: to Habby for the rest of the season, be this.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: One still classic trap game, classic trap game. I know
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: tendency is terrible, but I mean, you can't sleep on
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: anybody in the NFL. Greg Bellismo our Seahawks inside It
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: joins us nearly every day at this time to talk
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: some Seahawks football. Sam Donald was obviously the big topic
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: of conversation on yesterday's radio program. Is there a chance here, Greg,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: that maybe he just faced a really good defense, like
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a better defense than he's faced all season long, and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that maybe they did some good things that confused them
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: versus Sam Donald just doesn't show up against the Rams
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: or any big game.
• 27:36
  Speaker 11: Yeah, And that's what happened. And I wrote that yesterday
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: for the News Tribune that Cooper Cup talked about the
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: Rams changing safeties and their safeties Kinchens in particular. Kitchens
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: is killing them. He's got three interceptions in two games,
• 27:49
  Speaker 11: not counting the JV game. At the end of last season,
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: against them. Kinchins is the guy who at one hundred
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: and three yard interception return from Gino Smith in the
• 27:56
  Speaker 11: home game Seattle had lost overtime less season. Kitchens has
• 28:01
  Speaker 11: two interceptions on Sunday, standing in the middle of.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Fields with safety.
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: The second one is the second of Kitchens's interceptions, the
• 28:09
  Speaker 11: third of Darnald's fourth is the one that told me
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: that they were tricking him because Kitchens was standing in
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: the middle of the field and Arroyo ran a steam
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: route with a cover man underneath him, and Darnald threw
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: it as if he never.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Knew Kitchens was on the field. Just Kitchens was.
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: Like a center fielder who just caught a line drive
• 28:30
  Speaker 11: that was hit to him. It was as simple as that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: Took one step up interception and Cooper Cup after the
• 28:37
  Speaker 11: game said that the Rams showed heavy box at the
• 28:39
  Speaker 11: snap and ran out. He didn't say Kitchens by name,
• 28:42
  Speaker 11: but it was often Kitchens who ran out to essentially
• 28:45
  Speaker 11: have two deep coverage shell coverage after it looked like
• 28:48
  Speaker 11: it was single high at the snap, and so yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: when I asked Donald about that, he said, yeah, they
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: did that, and they were good at moving their personnel
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: and they got really good players, but a lot of.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Teams he said do that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: But suffice to say that it wasn't just Donald forcing
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: it in, which he did do on the sideline on
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: a late outrud as he was getting hit trying to
• 29:09
  Speaker 11: hit Smith and Jigba for his second interception, but the
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: first and the third. The Kitchens in particular told me
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: that he was tricked and fooled by their scheming safeties.
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: I'm not. It's not like he walked into that stadium
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: and said, oh, here we go again.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I don't think that.
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: But the bigger question is the Seahawks and Donald have
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: not beaten the top team. We mentioned the combined records
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: coming into the game of the team the seven wins,
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: the Seahawks had twenty two and thirty four. With the
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: combined records of the teams they'd beaten the Steelers, the saying,
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: the Cardinals twice, Texans, the Jaguars. So that's a problem
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: that they haven't been any of the top seven teams,
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: the playoff contenders, including the forty nine Ers and the
• 29:54
  Speaker 11: Rams in their own division. That's a bigger deal than
• 29:57
  Speaker 11: the Ghosts, and it's the Rams. It's the Seahawks who
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: are they they're seven to three and they've only beaten
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: middling and losing teams, and the teams they have to
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: be to win the division they still haven't beat.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the well, I mean, they got what seven games left,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: and so I'm interested. To me this was a measuring stick,
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: measuring stick game right where it was. It was definitely
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: the toughest opponent you'd faced, and it was for you know,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: the division lead at this point in time. And so
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: is there a part of you that came out of
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: a loss feeling even better than how you were feeling
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: about them or no?
• 30:35
  Speaker 11: No, I have more doubts about them. They This isn't
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: a moral victory league. Everyone's paid to win the games
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: to especially the division games. And I have more doubts
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: about the Seahawks than I did going into it. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 11: you're right, it wasn't measuring stick and they failed to
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: measure up. That's twice now, the forty nine ers at
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: home and the Rams on the road that they've lost.
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: And that is a concern that you can't win in
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: your division because here we go wild card first round
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: at Philadelphia or Detroit and they're done. It's the same
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: thing they've done for most of the last decades since
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: the last NFC Championship game they were in, and that
• 31:12
  Speaker 11: was in twenty fifteen. So where are they For all
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: they've done, changing offensive staff, Mike McDonald, new quarterback, trading
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: Geno Smith, trading Russell Wilson four or three years ago,
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: where are they if they can't beat the Rams and
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: it's forty nine ers, They're at the same place they
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: were before they did all those things right, and the aggregate,
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: A bunch of things have changed. The furniture has moved,
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: but the dining room is still the same. That's the
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: bigger problem they have. Yes, McDonald has been big and
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: made big strides, and the culture has changed and there's
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: a brotherhood there and they really especially when they rallied
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: Sam Donald's defense in Englewood, you could see that. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 11: the bottom line is they're third right now in a
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: division they're trying to win. That's the goal. That's the
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: number one goal before they do anything else, that to
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: win a division. And the Rams game, to me, was
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: a very alarming litmus test to where they are. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: now that's not to say they get the Rams here
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: next month. They get the forty nine ers again in
• 32:15
  Speaker 11: the season eight. They should be eight and three after
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: Nashville on Sunday. They're not in an awful place, but
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: the bigger picture is a concern.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Seahawks.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Inside of Greg Bell with us from Thenewstribune dot com.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Also you can follow him at gee Bell Seattle. As
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: we talked from Seahawks Football here thanks to Fancy Spark
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Lee Wine, and let's talk about the running back situation.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Another big topic on yesterday's program was maybe questioning that
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you didn't commit to Ken Walker soon enough in that game,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and both coach and Hugh concluded that he needs more carries,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: he needs to go back to being the number one.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Do you think that will happen?
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 32:57
  Speaker 11: I asked McDonald that yesterday because I had the same
• 33:00
  Speaker 11: feeling coming out of LA when I saw him get
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: to the red zone. I saw him bring George Hallani
• 33:04
  Speaker 11: in on first down twice for two red zone runs
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: for six yards.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: When I saw.
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: Charbon A in on the goal line running straight into
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: Rams who were in the backfield for no gain, I said,
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: why isn't Walker in there? And then on third and
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: one in the third quarter, ninety one had just beaten
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: on a swim move Anthony Bradford, and he was standing
• 33:25
  Speaker 11: in the backfield. I'm third and one, two yards behind
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: the line of screamings, right in front of Kenneth Walker.
• 33:30
  Speaker 11: Zack Sharbney would have run right into him for a
• 33:32
  Speaker 11: loss of two. Kenneth Walker joked him.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: He faked the.
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: Head fake to the left, cut hard to the right,
• 33:40
  Speaker 11: went right by ninety one, who swung an air and
• 33:43
  Speaker 11: a five yard game That would have been a touchdown
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: if the safety didn't come down and trip him with
• 33:47
  Speaker 11: a shoestring tackle. That's the difference between Kenneth Walker and
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: Jack Sharbney. When I saw that, I felt to himself,
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: that's why you put him in in short yardage and
• 33:55
  Speaker 11: goal line in red zone. So I asked. I specifically
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: said to McDonald, is is Walker's elusiveness giving you second
• 34:03
  Speaker 11: thought on this job share and maybe short yardis go on?
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: Going more to Walker? And his answer was, I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 11: Ken's showing that, you know, he's earning more opportunities to
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: get the ball. So then I asked him, what about
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: this foot thing that you've been managing since August. We've
• 34:18
  Speaker 11: talked about this and it hasn't been well publicized, but
• 34:21
  Speaker 11: part of the reason they're pacing him is they try
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: to get through all seventeen games of getting hurt again.
• 34:26
  Speaker 11: And he said, as far as I know, he said, well,
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: first of all, nobody's one hundred percent at this point,
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: and we are never going to go one hundred percent
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: with one running back. He said, that would be fool
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: hardy because you're going to get him hurt. But yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: as far as he knows, he's through all of that.
• 34:40
  Speaker 11: So those two comments tell me it's going to be
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: Kenneth Walker more than it's been forty five percent of
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: the time. So far, the snapcounts have been forty nine
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: percent for sharbon a forty five for Walker. Now Walker
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: has more total snaps because he's played one more game
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: Sharbon I missed the game, but Sharbone is still playing more.
• 34:59
  Speaker 11: That's scene like it's about to change, and it should.
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: So it seems like now at this point the season
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: was seven games less, that they're going to not pace
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: Marker as much and perhaps give him more of the
• 35:09
  Speaker 11: short yard he's red zone and even two minute drills.
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: I mean, he had a catch for twenty three yards
• 35:13
  Speaker 11: down the sidelines where he just outran the middle linebacker
• 35:15
  Speaker 11: in the fourth quarter after a two yard checkdown pass,
• 35:19
  Speaker 11: it turned into a twenty three yard game. That's what
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: Walker gives you. Well, McDonald's make it sound like he
• 35:24
  Speaker 11: hears you and that he's going to play more.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Gee, I'm on the same page with the You know,
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: it's not a feel good lead or whatever. It comes
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: down to wins, and yet there is times where you
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: can feel worse after a loss or better. You can
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: take some positives from a bad situation. I think one
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: positive is Jackson Smith and jig But even though they lost,
• 35:40
  Speaker 6: still was somewhat unstoppable. I mean when they threw him
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: the ball, it usually turned into a catch and a
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: first down. I'm wondering, is aj Barner is he starting
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: to turn into something that you could just add to
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: the rest of those complimentary pieces that a Cooper Cup
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: and possibly a Rashid Shaheed are trying to be, Which
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: is something else other than Jackson Smith and Jigba if
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: somebody does try to take him away, Yeah, he's.
• 36:05
  Speaker 11: Gaining trust for sure with Donald and a lot of
• 36:07
  Speaker 11: those catches against the Rams, the Barner end up going
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: with eight catches for about one hundred yards. It wasn't
• 36:13
  Speaker 11: he wasn't the primary target Smith and Jigba often was,
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: and the Rams often bracketed and shadowed and voted extra
• 36:20
  Speaker 11: attention to Smith and Jigba. One time he cut that
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: one handed catch and still putting his toes down the
• 36:25
  Speaker 11: left side on an amazing catch, the Rams has rolled
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: rotated to safety over to his side with the corner
• 36:31
  Speaker 11: on that play too. Barner was getting catches as the
• 36:34
  Speaker 11: second and third read and that shows that Donald is
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: trusting him more as well. On the trust meter, it
• 36:41
  Speaker 11: looks to me like number one is one, two and
• 36:43
  Speaker 11: three Smith and Jigba, but then right below him is
• 36:46
  Speaker 11: Barner to get those secondary looks and targets. So he
• 36:50
  Speaker 11: has gone up in the trust stature of for sure Donald,
• 36:54
  Speaker 11: and the results are showing it the good. The best
• 36:57
  Speaker 11: thing for the Seahawks about Barner is they don't have
• 37:00
  Speaker 11: to take him off the field because it's a great
• 37:02
  Speaker 11: balker too, excuse me, And that is as important as anything.
• 37:07
  Speaker 11: They can go multiple tight ends and throw it as
• 37:09
  Speaker 11: much as they do into tight end offense because of
• 37:12
  Speaker 11: how Barner is so good at balking and at receiving.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Another thing I think got under reported just quickly is
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: how good the secondary was I thought in the game
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on Sunday for the Seahawks.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: Now Kobe Bryant at Stellar, I mean that was just Reek.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: Woolan was really good.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: In my estimation, it's the nice job by the secondary
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on Sunday.
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: Well, he did.
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: It was different. They rotated Job and Witherspoon and Woolan.
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: Wolan started as the extra nickel defensive back on the
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: first drive, and by the second drive, Woolan was the
• 37:42
  Speaker 11: starter with Witherspoon and then at times it was Job
• 37:47
  Speaker 11: and Woolan. And I asked after the game McDonald, what
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: about this rotation. He goes, Yeah, it's kind of a
• 37:53
  Speaker 11: good bad problem to have because there's a starting corner
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: that's not going.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: To play every down.
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: Because I'm going to keep doing this, he said, I
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: can't give you a definite, but it looks like we're
• 38:01
  Speaker 11: going to continue this rotation. To him, Wolan has played
• 38:05
  Speaker 11: really well since coming back from the concussion, and he
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: doesn't want to bench him either, and so Job was
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: sort of the odd man out for a large part
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: of that game. You're right, Wolan had another standout game
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: with the ball in the air, a couple pass breaks,
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: breakups in the end zone, the things that he was
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: not doing earlier in the season with teams targeting him
• 38:23
  Speaker 11: for touchdowns.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: He's now doing.
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: He's had a resurgence in the middle of this season,
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: right in time too, because his contract's up. But now
• 38:30
  Speaker 11: Josh Job is perhaps the odd man out right now.
• 38:35
  Speaker 11: The two best corners playing it for them is Witherspoon
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: are Witherspoon and Wolan. But he loved Job and we've
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: talked about that, and Job had a couple of the
• 38:43
  Speaker 11: standout plays and special tackling in the open field immediately
• 38:46
  Speaker 11: after catches and pass breakup. McDonald says, we're going to
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: see the same thing in Tennessee. We're going to see
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: three guys playing two positions, so the reps are going
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: to get split accordingly.
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: All right, Greg, thank you very much.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: We appreciate often have a fancy brunch or something and
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Wash it down with some prosecco and we'll talk to
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: you tomorrow. How's that sound?
• 39:08
  Speaker 11: And then prosecco in the morning. I'm gonna have oatmeal.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And go to the dentist.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not very glamorous fancy at all.
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: No, that's that's my day. I just I'll let you
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: know not exactly on Tuesdays, all right, Well, hope.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: You get good results.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Greg, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider,
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• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Coming up next on our radio program, we are going
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to play some fact or fiction.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: It is my pick today.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: And I know we touched upon this a little bit
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: earlier with Michael Pennix Junior suffering the injury, but maybe
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it's time to evaluate the entire situation Pennix has been
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: thrust it into because I'm not sure he ever stood
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a chance there with Raheem Morris and the Atlanta Falcons.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that. On the other side, it's Chuck Buck.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: It is Ashley right here on Sports Radio.
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: Ninety three point three kJ RFM, Main Jean's territor.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: It's gonna join us at eight o'clock today. He probably
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: got called that a lot, and he's like the nicest.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: Person there is. I bet there's a mean spot in there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think you probably remember it's mean Jene the dancing machine.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You remember mean Jane the Dancing Machine.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: No, I do remember mean Gene Okerland from wrestling.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, a lot of mean Gene. I guess
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: if your name's Gene, you just get mean put next
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: That's unfair. Maybe he maybe got like Keen Hey, keen,
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Jean clean.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Jean Hey clean, Jean Clean, Jean the King of hygiene.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Right after he showered, that's what everyone called him.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Great, we'll find out. We'll ask Jean stair door today
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: if he had any nicknames as a kid, and if
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: any of them stuck, and if.
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: He is if he does have a mean streak. I
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: bet if you mess with his family, he's real mean.
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, is that Italian in him?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: He comes from my family.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: He's always threatening me with stuff like oh yeah, I know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: it's fun. Yeah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: So we'll also talk to him about officiating and stuff
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: at eight o'clock here today. Josh Naylor later today is
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: going to be talking to the media. He has officially
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: signed his deal, so it's done. Five years, ninety two
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: point five million dollars. The first baseman that stole our
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: hearts in no time flat has been retained by the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Mariners and he's going to be playing over their first
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: base for the better part of the next five years.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And it seems like everybody is on board with this
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: in town.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know how you couldn't be. I mean it's
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: not like he came over, and I mean the the
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: idea of Polonco coming back is quite the reversal considering
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: the year before, and then they brought him back and
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: he has a spectacular year last year for us. That
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: wasn't the case with Josh Nato. He basically hit the
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: ground and ran literally stole basis right off the bat.
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: I mean it was I wanted this dude a couple
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: of years ago. I just like the way that he
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: plays the game. And then they got him, and there
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: was part of me not wanting that to go away,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: and so I'm glad that they they doubled down on it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I think he wanted to sign sign him the day
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: after he debuted.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just get it done.
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was a lot of conversations about that over
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: the last few months and season, like oh, we could
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: just do it now, get it over with.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: We saw that picture of him and Stanton. I think
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: it was after they had clinched one of those things
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: they clinched and back to back to back days and
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: they were smiling and talking to each other, and I
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: guarantee they're like, hey, man, you like it here right?
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: It's really nice, isn't it. And he must have said, yes,
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: I do, I really do like it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I think it took Softy eight days. I think it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: took Ashley three and a half. I think it took
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: you won it back.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, not even a day.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: I don't even think it was bad. I think it
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: was just like, yeah, what trade it for him? Sign
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: him up long term.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Probably liked him some Josh Naylor for quite some time,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and that's before he became Vicky Henderson. But now I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: got a new nickname for him, the round mound of
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Puget sound.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: I love it. Charles Barkley not quite the.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: Same everybody, I don't know. I can't wait to meet him.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: Not everybody is okay with the self deprecating, you know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: like the you know, like, I bet Spoge wasn't a
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: big fan of Spudge. You know, the nicknames, the greatest
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: name ever for a fat guy. It's it's funny, it's funny.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: I bet he did like it. The round mound of
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Puget Sound. I like Thicky Henderson, and well, I like
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: that one. I don't think he'll like that one as
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: much as Dicky.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Hendersonicky Henderson is number one.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: But the reason I like the roundmount of Puget Sound
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: is because of his defensive skills.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: So then he really is channeling some Charles Barkley.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's like we could play off nine inch nails,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: but because he's a little thicker ten inch nails. Uh yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you know that, the wouldn't make him thicker, just taller, taller.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you get what I'm saying. Just stick your hands out.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: You're figuring the ten.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Screws nine inch screws. No, they're not changing.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: His name is not Josh Screwler screw Goodness, did you
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: notice that the team was all Jimmy like his One
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: of his middle names is James, so apparently he must
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: go by Jimmy.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, tod by it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: But I think that's the nick me that he's gotten
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. Huh weird. Jimmy Nayles, Jimmy Nailes, Jimmy
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: jam Nails. So you just let your brain stew on that.
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: I'm sure you're coming up with something. I think that's fun.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Vicky Anderson, and I probably will throw
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: the round mount of Puget sound out occasionally.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, as you should, but it is a little long.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: You can't say it all the time.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting him to go buy it or have
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: posters made or have it put on the back of
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: one of his jerseys, but I'm going to I'm gonna
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: mention it every once in a while.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but yes, Josh Naylor will be announced a little
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: bit later on the day.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And he's one of the most thoughtful professional athletes you'll
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: ever hear interviewed, and so always time to stop and
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: hear what Josh Naylor has to say. And so far
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: he's only given us a quote, and that quote has
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: been how excited he is, how he felt just immediately
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: embraced when he came to Seattle.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: And he does not want to leave here.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: So Josh Naylor's going to remain a Mariner of course,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: what's next for the ems. My crystal Ball forecast is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: officially out this morning. Andrews Hurst and I we record
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Stove today, our second episode of our Mariners offseason podcast,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: so we will dive completely into this topic. Anders and I,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Bucky Ashley and I will talk a little bit more
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: about it tomorrow. But if you want to read it,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of little upsets in there that I think
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: you'll be interested in. I'm not sure you'll really even
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like it, But the idea behind the crystal Ball is
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: to stay within the parameters of the finances that the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: organization operates under and try to come up with a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: realistic game plan that marries both what I think I'd
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: like for them to do and what I think they
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: actually will do, and ultimately they won't do anything that
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I say. All right, Coming down next, gene Sterotor is
• 46:42
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• 46:46
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• 47:05
  Speaker 6: Here's Chucking buck Ah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, time to chat with Clean Jean Sterotur right here
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. Ashley Ryan is here, Bucky Jacobson,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Chuck Powell, and we now welcome one of our favorite guests,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Jean Sterotur, CBS rules analysts and the greatest NFL official
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you've ever known, is with us right here on the program.
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: Good morning, sir, Good morning Chuck, Clean Gene, I think
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: maybe I did a little extra behind the ears today.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that we were wondering in our last segment,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: did you have any childhood nicknames? Because people named Gene
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: when I grew up just immediately got called mean Gene.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: And I can't imagine that anyone, even a six year
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: old would have thought six year old Gen Sterotor was mean. Well,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know that.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: I can't say.
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: Probably there's a couple out there in grade school that
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: might want to say that. Unfortunately, we can't go back.
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: And you know, if you've seen my profile, there were
• 48:05
  Speaker 7: definitely a few nicknames.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: It probably had to do with that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: Uh, that Italian nose, the Roman one that's Roman all
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: over my face, you know.
• 48:13
  Speaker 9: So, uh you know that was that was a hook
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: nose for a while.
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: It's okay, you know. I mean the things as children
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: that we thought were hurtful and demeaning sometimes end up
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: in our badge of honor, as we did older.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: So you know that.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Ye, we'll go with that one. Fellas read the clean
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: jing thing that makes me good? But yeah, were you
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: freckle face?
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: But oh well you can just imagine I mean, redheaded,
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: freckle faced guy with a name Bucky. That rhyme Bucky
• 48:45
  Speaker 6: rhymes with a lot of bad words, sucking, chucky.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: Yes, there's talking about Ducky. That is a bad.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: Ducky was not the one I didn't get called that.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Uh yeah it was. It was a tree great school was.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: But you're right, it's a badge of honor. Now exactly,
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: look at the two of you. Now you've made it,
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: you two. We couldn't be more proud of it. One
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: of us has.
• 49:14
  Speaker 7: I have to live through the Gong Show though, when
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: it was yeah, you know, Jean Jean, the dancing machine.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: So you know I did.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I lived through that when I was kind of a
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: middle school we thing. I think when that show went out.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bucky doesn't remember me Jane Dance. Yeah, Buggy doesn't
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: remember mean Jeane the dancing Machine.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: I remember mean gene Oakerland from the WWF back.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: In the day.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well, let us dance our way through
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a few of these plays that we saw over the weekend,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and I want to start with a hometown play because
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: they were about fifty plays that if they went the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: other way, maybe we win that game against the Los
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. But one certainly comes to mind. We had
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: a touchdown taking off the board, ken Walker ran in
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: for the score. Remember we lost by two points in
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that contest. And so we had our analyst Hugh Millan
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: on yesterday. He said that that hole that was called
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: on the edge by collar up could be called on
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: every single play. What did you think of that play?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Should that touchdown have been overturned?
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: That's a tough play. I thought.
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: Greg Olsen did a really great job on the broadcast
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: breaking it down as quickly as he could. And some
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: aspects from a players standpoint in him being a tight end.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: You know what, I think the plays designed. He stock
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: blocks right in the beginning right, and the opening or
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: the hole that I think based on the way the
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: blocking started was for that was for Walker to kind
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: of cut off his right shoulder on the inside of
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: him and it was more of a seal block on
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: that in that regard right to try to just sort
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: of kick out to open up that area, and then
• 50:52
  Speaker 7: naturally Walker bounces it out. And now he bounces it
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: out to the perimeter, and the defensive player, naturally seeing him,
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: you know, through the through the block, starts then to
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: try to shed the block and get to.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: The outside perimeter.
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: So now you have a blocker who is in a
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: position where maybe leverage changes.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Rather quickly because of where the.
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: Back balances, and now you see restriction and that falls
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: in that delicate place right at the point of attack,
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: right one Walker gets to that element or that block,
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: and now the restrictions outside of the frame. So listen
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: to defense of someone saying, yeah, are they grabbing like
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: that on every play?
• 51:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they do.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: Grab like that within their frame as it relates to
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: the point of attack all those elements. But now when
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: the defensive player is trying to shed you, he gets
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: outside of your frame, he beats your feet if he's
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: rushing through you. That's when these elements of yeah, they're
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: grabbing every play, they are, but they're not holding. And
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: now when I'm restricting, you're outside of your frame and
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: it's a point of attack restriction there, then that does
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: tighten things a little, and then there is that advantage
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: and disadvantage that rises to a level where it has
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: a direct effect on the play. Those are the breakdowns
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: that really should take place.
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: You hope they take place.
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: I think in some of our past interference calls over
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: the week, those elements didn't take place really to the
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: negative side of the officiating portion of it, or to
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: be critical a little on that end, But those are
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: the things you need to process, right, and I think
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: when you learn that craft and can process in those
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: moments for those reasons, the.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Game gets better.
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: And quite frankly to.
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: Me, that's a hold, right, that's because of the things
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: that I lined up.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: But that's the art of officiating. Yeah, we got.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: Keen Gene sterotor with us here of dropping his knowledge.
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: I am I am interested, Gene. You know, I'm one
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: that's about sportsmanship and I'll stand on that one. I'll
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: die on that hill. I like it. And yet there's times, right,
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: we talked about how many pumps is legal and whatnot,
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: and then you know there was no last week, no pumps,
• 52:57
  Speaker 6: no pumps. But I think there were so many pumped
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: on the ground or something this week. I don't know
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: about that. I'm just going to say, yeah, right, you
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: can't do that. Horizontal pumps are definitely, but yeah, Trey
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: McBride in the Arizona Cardinals Niners game, he ends up
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: doing something I think. You know, typically every single catch
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: for a first down, the receiver or tight end has
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: to now point in the direction that they're going for
• 53:23
  Speaker 6: a first down. And yet he did it kind of
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: while wiping his nose, and they threw a flag. Is
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: it illegal to get a cold in the NFL now
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: or is there something to that that I'm missing?
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Bucky.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: The swipe.
• 53:38
  Speaker 7: The nose swipe, which I have learned over the course
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: of these last two years as it became a little
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: more predominant, and didn't really understand it from a generational
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: or whatever reason. The nose swipe itself is an act
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: kind of like when we started seeing the lifting of
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: the jersey, right, it wasn't really showing a weapon, but
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: it was a brandishing the nose swipe from what I've
• 54:00
  Speaker 7: been told, and it's really just from seeking you know,
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: information is something that has done to check to see
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: if you're still breathing.
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: Basically right, So now I put.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: My finger under the nose.
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: There's no I don't feel any breathing.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: You're you know, so within that realm, right, officials get
• 54:21
  Speaker 7: put into these.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: I don't like to say that there are difficult.
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: Positions from officials because this information is disseminated throughout the league.
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: We have major tape film discussion on these for the
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: right reasons. I know the public thinks, you know, why
• 54:37
  Speaker 7: are we wasting our time with all of this. Look,
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: we all know the millions and millions of people at
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: all age levels watching these games, and little subtle messages
• 54:48
  Speaker 7: that some of us, because of our age or where
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: we are, doesn't mean anything, but they're profound. That's information
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: where the coaches, the players, the officials, all the stakeholders,
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: they're serious conversation. It's because of this messaging, because of
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: our platform. So we do stress that, Look, we understand
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: this might be subtle, but this is a message that's
• 55:09
  Speaker 7: more profound than just this reaction and a game to
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: amongst competitors.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: It's not permitted.
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: And that was disseminated, right, I mean, that was all done, shared,
• 55:19
  Speaker 7: agreed upon, and then you're in the heat of the
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: moment the reaction takes place and you saw how he
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: did it. It was very subtle. This was not like
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: that was the definitive part of his celebration. It was
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: a quick note swipe that turned into a first out right,
• 55:33
  Speaker 7: But okay, get more creative. The first down looks really great.
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: I love seeing you do first down with emphasis like that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: Don't point at your opponent, but let's go. Man, that's
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: a big play. It pumps the place up. It's great
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: for the game. Get the other piece out of.
• 55:48
  Speaker 9: It, though.
• 55:48
  Speaker 7: Found something else more creative to do it, and if
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: you can't, then it's a foul.
• 55:52
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry. That's just the way you have to work
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: things sometimes.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I like the process. I like that
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you have to make those decisions. It feels like I've
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: seen that so many times and it's not being called.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: But maybe it's college that I've seen it where it's
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: not called. But but you're telling me that consistently. That's
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a you can't do that gesture. Call in the NFL, yes, okay.
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: And message and really honestly in defensive college too, it's
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: there as well. Okay, that's the other dynamics that we all,
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: I think, have to embrace. Right when you're down on
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: that field, then there's a lot of bodies moving in
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: and out of you. In a camera from halfway up
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: the stadium with an amazing zoom lens in four k
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: it catches two seconds of something that quite frankly, you
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: just might you know, it's a human condition.
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: I didn't see it amongst the trees or something to
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: that effect, but if you see it.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: We need those.
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: Called and we need them taught, and we need that
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: culture to.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Continue to embrace creativity.
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: But understand this beautiful platform they're on college athletes you
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: know as well.
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: And I think that's just the gist of it.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Lean Jean Sterotur is our yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: On Chuck It Back in the Morning, a segment every
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: week brought to you by BMW Seattle. All right, let's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: get to the most controversial play maybe of the weekend,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: and that was the Sunday night Eagles versus Lions PI
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: call at the end of the game where Chris collins
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Worth just natural reaction, because I do think he takes
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: care of the officials a little better than Akman and
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: some others.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: Just natural reaction. That is a terrible call. I felt.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: It feels like most people felt. Man, those two have
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: been hand fighting the entire game, and you're gonna choose now,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: with the game on the line, to call that TICKI
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: tac fowl, which I don't even think is PI at
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: any time during the game. What did you make of
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that call on Rocky a scene versus AJ Brown at
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the end of Sunday Night's Contest.
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: Me, you're right, You're just right right.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: It's not enough for a foul.
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: It's not consistent with the.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: Way that the game was efficient and ought to say
• 57:53
  Speaker 7: that I want, I think that's a fall at any time,
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: as you just said. And then therein lies kind of
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: what I prefaced a little earlier. Right, there's a teaching
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: level of all of this. When a defensive back is
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: engaging with the receiver and we have two great athletes
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: that are basically hand fighting, we call it a snuggle
• 58:10
  Speaker 7: into a hand fight, into a back and forth. I
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: think at times some officials are thinking subconsciously, if he
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: does this next thing, it's going to be a foul, right,
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: and your brain is prepping you in some ways that way,
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: And I think there's value to prep your brain in
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: a different way by saying when two players like that
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: are engaged in hand fighting, that is not creating an
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: advantage of disadvantage. Rather than thinking, well, if he does this,
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: now I'm going to get him, you should think now
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: that they decided to both do that, and we used
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: to call that both players happy to be there, okay,
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: and they're not really taking a major advantage out of
• 58:46
  Speaker 7: each other. What it really has allowed, as opposed to
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: not what they can do, is it's allowed either player,
• 58:53
  Speaker 7: especially the offensive player, in that situation where the defense
• 58:56
  Speaker 7: decided to engage in hand fighting. It's allowed me this
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: five to ten percent of action to get you off
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: of me. So a subtle push out of a hand
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: fighting situation is okay, that's football. Those are athletes. That's
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: in space. If I'm not touching you at all, that
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: same subtle separation as you're closing in on me legally
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: without engaging with me should become a more profound separation then,
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: so now it should be worked a little more technical.
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: At that point, these layers that happen that we get
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: to dissect frame by frame and say how terrible they
• 59:33
  Speaker 7: are are the things that training and repetition and seeing
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: these plays in real time and understanding how to break
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: them down, I think allows for what is what the
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: rules are intended for, right, I mean that's the goal.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: But you must engage players and allow them to do
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: things when they are happy to be there, when they're
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: making athletic plays. It's to hook around the waiste on
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: a player coming from behind a receiver that then puts
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 7: his arm around the receiver's waist, doesn't hold him back,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: doesn't take a step away, doesn't keep his hands down,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: and that defensive player gets that other hand around in
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: front of him and knocks the football down. That's a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: great football play that's not automatically past interference. If he
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: turns him, if he restricts him in a different level
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: after that, Now it's risen to that elevation. These are
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: easy things to talk to you like this and break
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: down on a film and show them frame by frame.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: It's once another element when you're out there. You've got
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: to process these things kind of in your brain like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: I'm kind of doing now, and do it at a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: high level. That's what puts you in that space, right,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, these are the best of the best, So
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: figure that out or move back down to a different
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: level where we don't need to figure that out. Because
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: little Billy who's fifteen can't put his arm around the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: receiver without turning him. So it's a flag in high
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: school almost every time because they're dis quite frankly, might
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: not be good enough to do it, right. I mean,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: that's the growth one that happened on this stage.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 9: Uh and uh, And that's really the gist of it.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: But you're right, it's I don't think it's the.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: Top Jeane, the gene he's so good at it. I mean, Jane,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: there was the Broncos Chiefs game. You were working that game,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: and there was a couple of plays and neither one
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: of them got called. And yet I'm kind of curious
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: from the standpoint of can you recognize when it's there's
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: a flop going on, because that's got to be I mean,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: to me, there was there was two plays, very similar,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: one for each team. I think it was Thornton or
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Throckmann or a receiver for Kansas City had caught one
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: kind of a contested ball, he had done a little
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: bit of the offensive push off created some separation. The
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: dB for Denver kind of flopped and fell like it.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: It did push him off balance, but he completes the pass,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: gets up, runs for a little bit, then the almost
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: a game ceiling one with with Troy Franklin. He does
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: a little push off as well, and the defender doesn't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: fall down out of it. I'm wondering if there's somewhere
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 6: where you recognize that, Okay, there might have been a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: little bit of a push off, but you're trying to
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: embellish it, and does that make it less likely or
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: more likely that you're going to throw the flag?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: I think my basketball officiating, quite humbly and honestly.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: Bucky, I thought, helped me be able to dissect.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: That a lot because I was working for major college
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: basketball games throughout the week before my NFL weekend. So
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: again back to seeing plays getting constant repetition on was
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: that an offensive file that he really separated as he
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: flopped right that little piece in there where you try
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 7: to apply that, those are feels, and I think when
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: you're really seeing it from beginning to end.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: One other little.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: Tidbit kind of in that regard.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: Right, when you see a receiver get to the top
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: of his route and that dB is close to him,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: and now he pushes off at the top of that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: route just as he starts to break out. When a
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: defensive bat goes back where it's two or three quick
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 7: steps after that separation, ninety nine percent of the time
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: that is not embellishing because he doesn't want to try
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: to just trick the rest right there, right, He doesn't.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 7: He still wants to win on this play. So when
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: you see a DD go back like you can tell
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: that momentum put him back one two steps and then
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: he plants and tries to get back and close on
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: the play, your spider senses will tell you there was
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: a lot there because he's not just going to bail here.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: He was too close to being in making a play.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: Then we get to the pieces I think that maybe
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: you're describing and I saw those, and that is is
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: this athlete that good?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: And yes they are.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: To realize at this moment, I can't make a play,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: I can't get back. My only alternative now is potentially
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: to do what you said, buck right, embellies this and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: see my last hope is this because I couldn't get
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: back as an athlete to get into the play.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: So let's try this.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: Used to hate when they would run sweeps to my
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: side as a referee, and I saw that edge Russia
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: get beat and he's getting a little restriction and I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 7: don't think it's enough. And as soon as the back
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: goes around me, throws both of his hands up in
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 7: the air, and you would think, oh gosh, this is
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 7: going to be one where the grater is going to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 7: tell me that that's enough for a hole right at
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: the edge, and the hands up in the air is
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 7: going to draw the attention to the evaluator. So you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: write that play up and you let them know, Look,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 7: I watched this in real time. This is what I felt.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: Now you continue to do what you want to do.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: It the great, But yeah, I think there's pieces of that.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 7: And then to be critical of myself, I think because
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: of the flopping and my basketball years, I was the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: worst running into the kicker referee maybe in the history
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 7: of football, because every time that bunter got touched, you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: he was doing the pirouette and the fall and I
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: wanted to give him a yellow card. And I was
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 7: reminded many times coach arians a few and the heated
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: discussions letting me know that running into the kicker is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 7: also a FI your penalty. And I said, I know, coach,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: but he flopped and he goes, I understand that, but
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: he still did run into him. And and I would
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: kind of look after being you know, disrobed for thirty
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: seconds and agree with him and say, you know, you're
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: probably right it was running under the kicker.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: But we're going to go after TV right now.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: And well you can yell it be about something else
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  Speaker 7: in about another twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 11: But no, I agree.
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  Speaker 9: See, I think that's what I think.
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  Speaker 7: That's again, these are these nuances that we want officials
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 7: as they climb the ladders to be able to put
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: into their craft. And and it's not an easy thing.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 7: It's hard as hell to do this. But you've got
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 7: to be able to process those elements, I think, but
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 7: to live in that space and be really good at it.
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  Speaker 1: Espresso Bean, Jean Stereotor right here on the radio programs. Yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: just a little bit of the Italian heritage right there.
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  Speaker 9: Just a good idea.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we'll say, I mean, the tush push isn't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: going to go anywhere. We'll have to for time reasons
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: save that for next week. But it is getting very
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: interesting that tush push. I mean, everybody's angry every single
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: time that a play is called for a tush push
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. It's getting rather fascinating
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: and I can't wait to get your thoughts on it.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: But we'll have to save that for next week.
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  Speaker 2: Sir.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: And I won't see you. I won't be on the
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  Speaker 1: show next week. I'll be taking some time off. So
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  Speaker 1: happy Thanksgiving to you and your family.
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  Speaker 7: Happy Thanksgiving, and I'm sure we'll have a little tush
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  Speaker 7: and a little push to talk about even after seven days.
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  Speaker 7: So that's the best teas of the week. What he
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  Speaker 7: is waiting for a little toush push. Thanks fellas, Thank you, Jean,
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  Speaker 7: thank you have a great Thanksgiving man than you.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Halloween, Jean stare at here. We come all right,
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  Speaker 6: coming up next like a proud mom.
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  Speaker 1: There you good job, buddy, Everett FITZI will be with
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  Speaker 1: us next. Speaking of proud moms, I think he's spending
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the night in his old bedroom tonight as he calls
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the Red Wings cracking game on kJ R. You know,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Big made a make success out of himself going back
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: home to call a Red Wings game. Probably slept in
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: his old sheets Miguel Cabrera bed sheets last night at
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: mom's house. She probably made him his favorite breakfast. And
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: now eleven thirty Detroit time, probably just walking the streets
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  Speaker 1: of Detroit right now, saying hello to the nicest people
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  Speaker 1: in America.
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  Speaker 13: Ain't you proud?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: You know these don't leave me.
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  Speaker 13: Good mornings, proof that mood, you know, like my my,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 13: my steps a little peppy or whatever. You know, you
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 13: come back to the city that made you. At dinner
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 13: with my mom last night, Big Al and Mama fits
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 13: and at dinner last night, so it was fun. It's
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 13: been a good couple of days.
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  Speaker 6: Did you take him to Tommy's Bar? Yeah, that wasn't ask.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, not the sun.
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  Speaker 6: Well, if you do tell Tommy, we said, Hi, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 6: I'm picturing use this guy with cecil fielder bed sheets.
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  Speaker 6: By the way, Oh, I.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 13: Was so growing up. I was a really big Tigers
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 13: and Pistons fan. So I had like the Grant Hill
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  Speaker 13: poster and like the old Bobby Higginson poster in my room.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Wow, Damien Easley.
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  Speaker 13: Tony Clark, some of those old nineties Tigers who could
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 13: barely win sixty five games like those those were the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 13: teams that I had still in love with. They had
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 13: a big Ernie Harwell a little sign in my room
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  Speaker 13: as well.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I actually have a Bobby Higginson story. I
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: had an ex girlfriend who I lived with, who had
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: apparently dated him, and she had a Toledo mud Hens
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  Speaker 1: jersey from him. Yeah uh, and I ended up taking it. Like,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: not only was I not threatened, I'm like, I want
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: a mud Hens jersey. I'll wear this, you know what.
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  Speaker 13: I appreciate that because I've had a few of my
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 13: favorite t shirts and sweatshirts taken from me in previous relationships,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 13: so it feels good to see someone took one back
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 13: for the team. I appreciate that and.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: You don't love him, right right, You're you're moved on
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: from him, and then just let me have his jersey.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah uh, all.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Well let's talk some cracking hockey.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it has been a couple of minutes since
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: we last chatted with you, and they've had a couple
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: nice wins over the Jets, the Sharks, who they struck
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: a little revenge with nine goals over two games. I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: gotta believe that even without Joey Decord, they've built about
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: as much offensive momentum as they have all season long
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: heading into this game tonight.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, who said this team couldn't score?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: Right now?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 13: You get one goal in three of your previous four
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 13: games and then you explode for five and four and again.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 13: I think we've been taking this all year long. Laine
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 13: Lambert has been saying, you stick with the program, you
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 13: stick with that discipline, and the offense will come. And
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 13: I think every game he's laid down a challenge to
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 13: this team, whether that's shoot the puck more. He even
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 13: said it after the Columbus game. You know, I would
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 13: like this these guys to be a little bit more selfish, right,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 13: I know it flies in the face of a lot
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 13: of what we hear in hockey, but be.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: More selfish take that shot.
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  Speaker 2: I still think.
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  Speaker 13: We're looking for that perfect seam pass. We're looking for
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 13: that perfect shot. Just put pucks on that. Well, they
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 13: listen in the Winnipeg game, you get five and then
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 13: they rinse and repeated against against San Jose for four.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 13: So you know, we'll see if that continues on the road.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 13: But I will say very encouraging positive signs in the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 13: last two games. You pick up another statement win against Winnipeg,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 13: you exact some revenge against San Jose. Ten players get
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 13: points in that Winnipeg game. I think eight players had
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 13: points in the San Jose game. So now you're seeing
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 13: the depth offense come. You're seeing the offense come, and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 13: now we'll see if they can they can keep it
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 13: going here in Detroit.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: Well, Grooby filled in nice for the injured Matt Murray.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, is Grooby back And are we feeling okay
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 6: about the whole Matt Murray decord situation?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 13: Well, I think Grubauer, I mean, he is playing some
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 13: of the best hockey that I think we've seen from
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 13: him since that playoff year. Right, everyone loves to talk
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 13: about playoff groovy and and what he did during that run,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 13: and you're starting to see you know, quote unquote vintage
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 13: Grubauer again. Matt Murray did not make the trip for Seattle,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 13: so it's Grubauer. Joey de Coord is on the ice
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 13: right now. He's getting those first reps. It looks like
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 13: he may be starting tonight. So yeah, that that, at
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 13: least from from what I'm reading in the tea, leaves
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 13: the morning skate here today and then that practice yesterday.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 13: He took a lot of the first reps uh in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 13: practice yesterday, So I it would it would appear to
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 13: me that Joey to Coord is going to be back tonight.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 13: We'll see officially here after morning skate. But you know, Grubauer,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 13: I think working with our new goaltending coach, Colin Zulianello,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 13: you know, he's had to really Colin has has had
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 13: to really manage this three goalie system and and you
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 13: know there's all types of egos that go into it,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 13: and that's not a negative thing. But what he's been
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 13: able to do keeping all those guys ready to go, fresh,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 13: ready to play. Matt Burry's been playing very very well.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 13: Philip Grubauer, we've seen now back to back games, including
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 13: one in relief, you now have three very viable options
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: in goal for Seattle, which is in a short and
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 13: you know tight season like we're going to have this
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 13: year in terms of back to backs and and you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 13: know games every other day, you're going to need your
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 13: goalies going. And I think right now that three goalie
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 13: system is proving that it's working.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: He's colonized him, is what he's done.
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  Speaker 6: See what colonizing? Yeah, it's colonized him. Tret Fitz.
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  Speaker 1: You is with us the voice of your Seattle Crack.
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  Speaker 6: We did talk about the offense earlier.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a natural thing for fans to get
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: excited about the future players talk about Nieman and kat
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: and and right and even Veneer's still a young player.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: But it's the veterans, it's Schwartz and Everly that have
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: really stepped up here recently for this team.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they have.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 13: And I think you know that that also comes with
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 13: the type of coach that Lane is. I think Jordan
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 13: having played four lane on Long Island with the Islanders
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 13: for all those years. He knows what to expect out
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 13: of him Jaden Schwartz. This type of system fits his game.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 13: You know, he wants to be that power forward. He
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 13: wants to go to the net. He wants to get
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 13: his hands dirty and and get into the mix and
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 13: get into the fight. So this type of style, I think,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 13: especially for those two fit well. And and you're almost
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 13: seeing you know how we recorded our latest episode of
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 13: Cracking Weekly, which is up on the Crack and Audio
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• 1:14:49
  Speaker 11: But he he.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 13: Gave his his three stars of the week two quote
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 13: unquote the old guys, but in In Schwartz and Everly
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 13: because you know, even though they're they're among the elder
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 13: statesman of this team, you're seeing how valuable and how
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 13: important they are. You're they're leading by example, and then
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 13: you know, it doesn't take you long to look up
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 13: and down the lineup guys like Tyke Krzhieg and Ryan Winterton,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 13: you know doing things that Everly and Schwartz are doing
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 13: because they're they're leading by example. So those are the
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 13: two guys that you need to get going, because when
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 13: they're going, everyone else sees that everyone else follows suits
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 13: and that's what's happening right now.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: All right, So, well, they're not the Stevie Eiserman Sergei
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Federal fred Wings that little over It grew up with,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: but they do seem to be improved. Give me, I
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: only got about thirty seconds. Give me a thirty second
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: scouting report on the Red Wings here tonight.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 13: I mean, the Red Wings are a team that they
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 13: need to take that next step. They've got a lot
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 13: of really young, talented players. They've got two players in
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 13: their lineup this season that have been contributing that are
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 13: in their NHL debut season. So this is a team
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 13: that they rely heavily on Dylan Markin along with Alex
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 13: to brink It. But they also have some good young pieces,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 13: very much like a San Jose in that they're young
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 13: Anaheim as well.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: They're young, they're.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 13: Talented, they have a couple of vets you've been around
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 13: the block, but it's for the most part, it's the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 13: young players that are leading this team. They've narrowly missed
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 13: the playoffs the last couple of seasons and they're trying
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 13: to get back to the playoffs for the first time.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 13: And I think ten years, so that's unheard of around
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 13: these parts. So this is not going to be an
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 13: easy game by any means for Seattle.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Have fun today, have fun tonight, have fun with mom
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: if you get to see her again before you have
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: to head out of town.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 6: And we will talk to you next week. All right, all.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 13: Right, fellas, Ashley, take care, we'll talk to you all right.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious, as it's a Husky UCLA week. How much
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: is your son bugging you for information about the Huskies?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: And how much is Jedfish bugging you for information about UCLA?
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  Speaker 2: Interesting?
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  Speaker 14: I can tell you, but then I'd have to kill you, right.
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  Speaker 14: You know what I find as I get older, no
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  Speaker 14: one really wants my information. I've been relegated to that
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  Speaker 14: role as a father and just stay.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the way.
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  Speaker 14: Dad, I got this, So I'm anxious for the game.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 14: I think the quarterback is going to be healthy. He
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 14: was unavailable. Miko Iamaliavo was unavailable against Ohio State, and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 14: we know what they do to opponent offenses, especially if
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 14: you're down.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of guys.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 14: So I'm anxious to the UCLA played better. But the
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 14: way Washington was clicking last week, it'll be uh, it'll
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 14: be a tough shore for their defense.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they were, they were clicking, and they have some injuries.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: And yet I am curious just as far as U
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: c l A goes, what is it that the Huskies
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 6: need to worry about the most?
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 14: I think, Uh, you know, the player is Miko i Amaliaba,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 14: and when his legs get involved, then they become dangerous.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 14: But getting to that portion of their offenses, it's been difficult.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 14: Early in the season. The defense was doing really really well.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 14: The last couple of times out times out, they've they've struggled.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 14: They couldn't stop Nebraska, who had kind of a fleet
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 14: of foot quarterback a freshman that was playing that particular day,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 14: TJ latif Uh. And I don't know that they'll be
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 14: able to corral Demon Williams given what we've seen of
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 14: him and his ability to make plays with his legs.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: The Bruins saw the number one ranked team in the
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: country up close in personal last week. Are the defending
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: national champs even better this year than they were last season?
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 14: You know, I don't know that. I see vulnerability. Okay, now,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 14: no one's been able, no one's been able to exploit it.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 14: But I don't know that they can just move you
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 14: off the ball as an offensive line. I think they're
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 14: you know what we saw with Texas A and M
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 14: coming from behind in that game against South Carolina this week,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 14: what we saw Indiana coming from behind against Penn State
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 14: a week ago. Those are the three undefeated teams. Ohio
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 14: State really hasn't been challenged like that. Their freshman quarterback
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 14: hasn't been challenged like that, needing to make a comeback.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 11: You know, he's been.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 14: Pretty comfortable the entire year, I think. And we'll wait
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 14: and see what happens when they play against Michigan. But
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 14: I think that's the disadvantage going into the college football
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 14: playoff tournament because you need to know that you can
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 14: do that, and having not had that experience, I think
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 14: they're vulnerable. I would not bet them is the favorite
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 14: to win.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: This whole thing.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: Take the house.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 14: I'd take the house, I take the field, Take the field.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, Well, basically at that point in the season
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: where I mean kind of getting down to the nitty
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  Speaker 6: grit and you'll have some big time, you know, rivalry
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: games coming up. I mean, are you expecting chaos or
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: would you? Does it feel like this season is more
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 6: destined for kind of the chalk what we're seeing right now,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: Let's just say you know that there's not going to
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 6: be a ton of upheaval. As far as the College
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: Playoff is going.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I think it's really fascinating in the SEC because
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 14: there are still six teams that can finish with two
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 14: losses or better, and is there room for all six?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 14: Therein lies the problem in the Big twelve. Is there
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 14: another team that's going to get in with Texas Tech
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 14: or derailed Texas Tech in the championship game? And if
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 14: in fact that happens, does that take two teams and
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 14: does that kick out another SEC team? So those are
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 14: all interesting things. It looks like Notre Dame has secured
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 14: their spot. They've got Syracuse left at home, which is
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 14: going to be a wildly overmatched team, and then they
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 14: travel to the West Coast to play Stanford. Sanford could
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 14: give them a fight, but the way Notre Dame's playing
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 14: right now, and the way they negotiated this deal in
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 14: the college football playoffs. I mean, they're sitting there as
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 14: still six spots ahead of Miami. We'll wait and see
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 14: what happens tonight. But Miami beat them. And I'm just
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 14: sitting there. If I'm Miami, i gotta be going crazy.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 14: I mean, Miami beat North Carolina State this week the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 14: same way that Notre Dame did. Why are they so
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 14: far behind him? And if you're talking about, you know,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 14: penalties that should have been called, you know, Texas A
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 14: and m beating Notre Dame, they could say, hey, there
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 14: was a holding call that was blatantly missed. You could
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 14: point out Miami's lost SMU. There was a you know,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 14: a necessary roughness penalty where the guy tried to hold
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 14: up hold up the quarterback. He just didn't near the
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 14: whistle and they called it on him to give the
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 14: SMU a chance for the game time field goal. So
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 14: it's it's just wildly advantageous for the Irish right now.
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  Speaker 6: M Rick new isil is with it. Certainly.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma shook things up last week with their win over Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Both of those teams should make it into the college
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: football playoff rankings, which will be revealed the latest little
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: later on tonight. I'm curious, though the Koogs have a
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: game at James Madison, they could have an effect on
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: keeping a team here out of the NCAA tournament. Would
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: the committee really consider James Madison as that twelfth and
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: final team or are they fighting a hopeless battle there?
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 14: Well, given the kind of carnage that we're watching in
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 14: the American and the fact that San Diego State went
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 14: out and got beat at Hawaii, we're sitting here, I mean,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 14: Navy's sitting at eight and two, Toulane's at eight and two.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 14: Tulane has the signature went over Duke. North Texas is
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 14: at nine to one. With a win over Navy, North
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 14: Texas as a twelve and one American Conference champion, would
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 14: stay at would be ahead of James Madison. But the
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 14: projections are that North Texas won't get there, which is
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 14: why jmu' is getting all this love. The one loss
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 14: that James Madison had was to Louisville, which was a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 14: pretty good team. They only lost by a couple of touchdowns.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 14: So Bob Chesney, who's being rivered for some jobs out there,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 14: included amongst is UCLA has done a nice job with
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 14: Jmu And if you're trying to capture a little of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 14: that signetti magic, why wouldn't you go back there and
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 14: see if you can pluck another one of those guys?
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Why not? Leach Man.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is that year or that week that typically happens,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: and it's one that's kind of argued about. It seems
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: like every single year, and understandably so. Where the SEC,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, like the few top teams in the SEC.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: Alabama's playing Eastern Illinois, George's playing Charlotte, and Texas A
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: and M's playing Sandford. I mean, is this a thing
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: if we were to fast forward a week from now.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 6: We'll talk to you next week as well, but that
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: you could see the committee punishing these guys for doing that.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: If all of a sudden they stand pat and win
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: by forty, but another team that's playing somebody of their
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 6: caliber wins, they could end up losing a spot in
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: this thing.
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  Speaker 14: From your lips to God's ears, Bucky, But no, they're
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 14: not going to punish him. This was a genius move
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 14: years ago by Mike's Live and I pointed it out
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 14: years ago on the PAC twelve network, and no, one
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 14: took Heed. I mean, it's it's just an absolute gamesmanship
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 14: by moving one of your your by games, one of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 14: those you know, easy games. And remember the SEC, at
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 14: least this season is still only playing eight conference games.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 14: So to put this right in the in the penultimate
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 14: weekend of the season and had to say that that's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 14: a game while everybody else is beating each other's brains
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 14: out and all these conference races. You can understand how
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 14: they went right to the top of the charts in
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 14: the CFP. It was brilliantly done and it was the
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 14: Mike's Live idea and they still do it. And so
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 14: we've got Charlotte at Georgia, We've got Mercer at Auburn,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 14: Eastern Illinois at Alabama. I call these the Reindeer games,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 14: Coastal Carolina at South Carolina, and Western Kentucky at LSU.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 14: Last week it was Tennessee Tech at Kentucky. So yeah,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 14: make of it what you will, but it is uh
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 14: Stamford at Texas A and M a thriller this week.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 14: That will make five teams that A and M has
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 14: played this year who no longer have their head coach
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 14: that started to see.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: This, Wow, coach killer. Why the reindeer games? Am I
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: not catching onto something here? Why do you call them
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: the rain I'm.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 14: Just just the reindeer games just because they're just ridiculous games. Okay,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 14: you know they shouldn't be there. I mean, but it's
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 14: genius scheduling, and it's because of the damage of a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 14: late loss as compared to an early loss. Just put
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 14: these in there at the end and let everybody else
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 14: lose and the committee just doesn't catch on.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Alabama facing the Island of Misfit Toys Tech this weekend.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: There you go, a great program. There's only favored over
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: Charlotte by forty five?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Is that all?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 14: Charlie and the box playing quarterback.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: In that one? I think he's at Island of Misfit
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: Toys A and M if I'm not mistaken. Is with
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: us our college football insider? Of course, he does the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: same thing for CBS Sports, and he's got a few
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: coaching credentials former UDUB head coach as we all know.
• 1:28:11
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  Speaker 1: you by Taco Time. All right, let's get to some
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: of these more intriguing games this weekend, and Big ten
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: might own the most intriguing one with the Oregon hosting USC.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, it feels like Lincoln Riley has been skewered
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: by them by critics and understandably so ever since he
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: stepped foot on campus at USA.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 6: But don't look now. He's actually got them in position to.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe make the tournament. But he's going to need a
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: win at Oregon. Can he get that done?
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  Speaker 14: This is going to be a great contest because they
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 14: have played.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Gritty this year.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 14: You got to give Lincoln credit for what they've done
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 14: to kind of make themselves a little bit more physical
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 14: from a standpoint of running the football. They've won a
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 14: couple of, you know, basic ground and pound type of
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 14: games against both Michigan and last week against Iowa. And
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 14: when you win those kind of games, you put yourself
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 14: in position to play for big prizes. And that's exactly
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 14: what will take place in Eugene. And give the Ducks
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 14: credit to they went to Kinnick Stadium and beat Iowa
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 14: in Iowa weather and basically held served and did so
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 14: again last week against Minnesota on a Friday night. So
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 14: this is going to be a great game. I think
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 14: Oregon has the advantage. I think Oregon's probably a little
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 14: bit more talented, except at the wide receiver position. But
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 14: if Dante More plays like he did against Minnesota, I'm
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 14: gonna take the ducks.
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  Speaker 1: And of course that's on CBS on CBS. Okay, all right,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I got the big one there.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: How's this acc going to sh take out? And will
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Georgia Tech versus Pitt have a say in that?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Big time?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 14: Pitt gets to write their own story here at the end. Now,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 14: they laid an egg against Notre Dame last week, but
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 14: if they can beat Georgia Tech and Georgia Tech's defense
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 14: has given up massive chunks of yardage. So if this
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 14: Mason Hinchel, that freshman quarterback can have a day again
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 14: and they can beat Georgia Tech at Georgia Tech, then
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 14: they'll get to play Miami the next week to get
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 14: a chance to be in the SEC excuse me, a
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 14: SEC championship. Virginia has a clear path. They just have
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 14: Virginia Tech. They get this week off, they get Virginia
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 14: Tech next week. But they've struggled against Virginia Tech over
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 14: the a long time. And you know who's sneaking around
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 14: the chicken coop is SMU. SMU only has one loss.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 14: They get Louisville at home this week. Louisville lost again
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 14: last week to Clemson, so they're out. But if they
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 14: knock off Louisville, then they're going to go to cal
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 14: to try to also be in that number that can
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 14: be playing in Charlotte. So much still to be determined
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 14: in the ACC, and there's only going to be one
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 14: team that emerges.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati BYU. Is that a playoff game in essence? Or
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati do they have too big of a hurdle to overcome?
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 14: Cincinnati can get there. If Cincinnati knocks off BYU, that
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 14: gives BYU the second loss in the conference, and that
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 14: makes Cincinnati on par and they would own the tiebreaker. Unfortunately,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 14: Cincinnati lost to Utah, so then other things come into play.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 14: And I haven't done all that math yet.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 14: Utah is hoping like heck that Cincinnati can pull this
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 14: off so they can get themselves another chance at the
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 14: Red Raiders. But if you're Brett, your mark for and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 14: the commissioner of the league, you want BYU to get
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 14: to Arlington against Texas Tech because those two teams, I think,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 14: regardless of the out would both get into the playoffs, all.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: Right, nice. All right, So what is our Taco Time
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 6: pick of the week for this week?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 14: I think we're gonna take b YU at Cincinnati. We're
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 14: gonna take them. I think that they're they're worth the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 14: look there, it was an impressive win getting off the
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 14: mat after losing last week to Texas Tech. They came
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 14: back and got TCU and got them soundly. So I'm
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 14: going to take the Cougars this week.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: So you're not going to take Eastern Illinois on the
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: money line, That's what I'm gonna glean.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 14: I'm deciding against it. Yeah, I'm trying to think of
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 14: another character from Rudolph to see if the Island of
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 14: missed with toys? Who else could be on the d
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 14: L there?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: Well, Ukon Cornelius is out.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 14: Great defensive line is out with a pickaxe injury.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: Oh it happens way too often. Back up there, dangerous
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: place to play football.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Well, so last minute? What I mean Washington Ucla? I
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: mean you've got ties to both these programs, and you
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: got a Sun coaching. I mean, what kind of memories
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: does that stir up? And Rick new Heiseel's past?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 14: So the first time we played him, I'm the head
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 14: coach now at Washington my first year, we beat Stanford
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 14: and now we actually have a chance to go and
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 14: get ourselves into the Rose Bowl, win the conference. We've
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 14: got a path, and we go. But Marcus got hurt
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 14: against Stanford. Despite the fact that he set an NCAA
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 14: record three hundred yards passing and two hundred yards rushing,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 14: he had hurt his backside, so to speak, and couldn't practice.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 14: So we get there and he's going to play, but
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 14: I mean, he's stiff as a board, and so we
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 14: struggle a little bit offensively. We kick a fifty six
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 14: yard field goal to get ourselves into overtime. John Anderson
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 14: hit it, and now we're going to go into overtime,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 14: and he's trying to hit I think he's trying to
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 14: hit Todd Elstrom on a corner route, or maybe he
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 14: was trying to hit Jeremy Stevens on a steam route,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 14: and he should have been thrown it to Elstrom on
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 14: the corner route, and we threw a pick and end
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 14: up losing in overtime to UCLA. We'd beat Washington State
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 14: the next week, and the ifs and butts just kicked
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 14: flowing through my mind. But I'll tell you all those
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 14: kids were back last week for the reunion of that
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 14: twenty five year reunion of the Rose Bowl team, and
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 14: they had a blast. I got a great picture, a
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 14: bunch of smiling faces of some forty year olds that
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 14: have a memory for a lifetime.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: That's awesome.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, enjoy the football this weekend and we'll
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: talk to you next Tuesday.
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  Speaker 11: Appreciate it.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: See you now.
• 1:34:48
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