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THROWBACK THURSDAY! ANCIENT ARCHITECTURE: Revisiting Tibet · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
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  Speaker 2: of Conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Jacob.
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  Speaker 2: And today we bring back our favorite peach that is
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  Speaker 2: ever peached. It's Julia from the Cosmic Peach Podcast. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm so excited to be here. I was having withdrawals.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So before we get started, there's a couple
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  Speaker 2: of things. Julia decided to surprise us on this episode.
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  Speaker 2: We are going into this absolutely blind. We don't know
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, which... That's my favorite. I like being surprised.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was just joining us from Antarctica. You
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no shit.
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  Speaker 1: Missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Damn it. I know.
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  Speaker 4: So Julia, lay it on us. What are we talking
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  Speaker 4: about today?
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  Speaker 1: So I always try to find a topic that will
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  Speaker 1: not disappoint and is kind of interactive for you guys.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been doing a little bit of research on
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  Speaker 1: some conspiracy theories and ancient legends from Tibet. Are you
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  Speaker 1: familiar with any of the conspiracy theories coming out of Tibet?
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  Speaker 4: Like spiritual conspiracies?
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  Speaker 1: Among other things.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I know a little bit about that. That was
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  Speaker 4: my next question.
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  Speaker 3: Are we talking strictly like spiritual awakenings and like powers
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  Speaker 3: that they are claiming to have? Are we talking about cryptids?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's not Sam Squanch things that people are seeing,
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  Speaker 3: but in Tibet, they are seeing Yetis, which is like
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  Speaker 3: a side tangent. So, I mean, are we talking cryptids?
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  Speaker 3: Are we talking supernatural human abilities? What level are you
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  Speaker 3: meeting here?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm hoping to actually get political even. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to provide you a buffet of conspiracies tonight that
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  Speaker 1: I've been looking into. And we're going to talk cryptids, spiritual, politics,
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  Speaker 1: ancient mysteries, all of it. And it's so relevant to today, actually.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys will love it. I think that
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  Speaker 1: actually somewhere in Tibet, there's like a vortex, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: an axis mundi. A place where it's so high, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Mount Everest, obviously. The altitude is so high that maybe
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  Speaker 1: there's a connection there. And the stuff that they're seeing
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely ridiculous in Tibet. And all of the legends
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  Speaker 1: that come out of there. And it's actually said that
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  Speaker 1: Tibet was the abode of the gods. And it was
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  Speaker 1: like the kingdom of the gods. And not in a
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  Speaker 1: spiritual sense, but in a physical sense. That there was
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  Speaker 1: an actual kingdom and they physically lived there. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a lost kingdom. And where they say that this kingdom is,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many UFO sightings, lights in the sky, mass vanishings, deaths. And,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, people go to trek up the side of
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  Speaker 1: this mountain hundreds of times a year, and they can't
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  Speaker 1: even make it up and die on the voyage. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like all this death and energy is feeding whatever
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  Speaker 1: is hiding there.
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  Speaker 3: Is that one particular mountain where all these deaths are happening?
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  Speaker 3: And you brought up politics. I know that China has
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  Speaker 3: been occupying certain areas of Tibet for the last decade
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  Speaker 3: or two. They've been pushing into Mongolia the same way
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  Speaker 3: they've been pushing Nepal, India. They've been doing that a
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  Speaker 3: good bit. So conspiratorial political talk, I'm here for. The
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  Speaker 3: mountain that you're referring to, was it a range of
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  Speaker 3: mountains or like one particular? Like the Greeks have Mount Olympus,
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  Speaker 3: and that was the place where the gods lived, that
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  Speaker 3: one spot. What's Tibet see it as?
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to be talking about Mount Everest, but
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  Speaker 1: we're also going to be talking about Mount Kailash. which
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  Speaker 1: actually just in April of this year, they have discovered,
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  Speaker 1: and anybody can Google it, they have discovered that Mount
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  Speaker 1: Kailash is a man-made vacuum pyramid. And it has many
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  Speaker 1: interlocking pyramids within like a short distance of it. And
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  Speaker 1: it's even bigger. I think they said it's three times
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  Speaker 1: bigger than, the pyramid in Egypt, the Giza pyramid. And
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  Speaker 1: all this time we just thought it was a mountain,
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  Speaker 1: but it turns out that it is a whole ass pyramid.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get all these legends about this Shambhala,
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  Speaker 1: which is the abode of the gods, and that they
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  Speaker 1: lived in the mountains in a cloaked kingdom. And now
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  Speaker 1: that they're saying that Mount Kailash is a pyramid, it
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  Speaker 1: just seems to make sense to me that we're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about something esoteric as much as we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: something very, very physical.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So whenever you're talking about like vortex, are we talking
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  Speaker 2: about like same kind of deal as like Sedona, Arizona,
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  Speaker 2: that kind of vortex, like where weird shit is always happening,
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  Speaker 2: people are moving there. It's like super high price to
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  Speaker 2: go live there and everything because they know that there's
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  Speaker 2: like some kind of natural earth energy.
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  Speaker 4: Is it pretty similar to that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Tibetan Buddhism has a lot of connection to
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  Speaker 1: Mount Kailash. And they take the Pilgrim's Trail up there.
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  Speaker 1: And they actually, what they'll do is they'll take a
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  Speaker 1: step up the mountain, prostrate themselves straight on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: get back up, take another step, prostrate, another step, prostrate.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of people die of dehydration or their
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  Speaker 1: bodies just give out on this Pilgrim's Trail trying to
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  Speaker 1: get up to Mount Kailash. So not only do you
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of weird deaths going on, people are
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  Speaker 1: seeing lights in the sky. It's been a constant source
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  Speaker 1: of interest for expeditions. And actually, part of the political
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  Speaker 1: thing that we're going to get into is the Nazis
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  Speaker 1: were very interested in Mount Kailash. And they did quite
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  Speaker 1: a few expeditions to try to discover the lost kingdom
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  Speaker 1: of Shambhala.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I can't say I'm surprised about that. You know, the Nazis,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: There's the whole story about Hitler escaping to Argentina. There's
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  Speaker 2: a whole fucking Nazi colony. Like there's a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: blonde hair, blue eyed people there.
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  Speaker 4: And it's like it's really strange. And honestly, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe history for one minute. Like whenever we
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  Speaker 2: start talking about these these wars or certain leaders.
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  Speaker 4: Or the story's always messed up. Here's an example.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So, um, my wife from Brazil, right. Um, she is.
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  Speaker 2: Always getting updates on people who live in Brazil. She
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  Speaker 2: still has a bunch of family out there. They've been
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  Speaker 2: getting like, like barraged with like massive flooding over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of, a couple of weeks or whatever. So
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  Speaker 2: much so that like, there's water that's literally at the
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  Speaker 2: top of, like, it goes all the way up to
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  Speaker 2: the top of the roof of a barn, and there
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  Speaker 2: was a picture of a horse standing on top of
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  Speaker 2: the roof of this barn, and it's so flooded. There's probably,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, 20 feet of water that has just
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  Speaker 2: completely flooded this place out. Well, anyway, their president or
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  Speaker 2: their their media or whatever has only been saying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's only been like 93 people that have died from this.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, there's other like influencers out of Brazil that will
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  Speaker 2: go on TikTok and Instagram and everywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: And and the.
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  Speaker 2: Guy is like, I know that there's not only 93
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  Speaker 2: people dead from this flood because I'm looking at at
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  Speaker 2: least 93 dead bodies right now. And he suggested it's
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  Speaker 2: probably somewhere up around two or three thousand people that
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  Speaker 2: have died as a result of this flood. Point being
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  Speaker 2: is that still in this day and age, the numbers,
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  Speaker 2: the lies, everything is being manipulated in one way or another.
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  Speaker 2: So whenever we hear that you know, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we defeated the fucking Nazis in World War II, and
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  Speaker 2: Hitler doesn't, you know, we beat Hitler, and that was,
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  Speaker 2: it's a big win for America and the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the world and everything, and America's back-to-back World War champs.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know about that, because it seems like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, yeah, do we got a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of freedom?
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  Speaker 4: Sure. But are, is there still a Nazi colony?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Did Hitler probably escape somewhere?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Is there still a Confederate colony
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  Speaker 3: in Brazil as well? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: My point is, is that, you know, we don't know
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  Speaker 2: what to trust from history. How many times we got
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  Speaker 2: to talk about this on this podcast?
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  Speaker 1: History is written by the victors. And what if I
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  Speaker 1: told you actually he, Hitler discovered something on this expedition
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  Speaker 1: in Tibet and he brought it back with him. And
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  Speaker 1: you might be on to something there, Jonathan, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: not ready to let the cat out of the bag
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  Speaker 1: just yet. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Let that kitty purr a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So actually human beings have inhabited Tibet for at least 20,000 years,
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  Speaker 1: and it is a very ancient culture. And what they
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  Speaker 1: have now is Tibetan Buddhism, but it wasn't always Buddhism.
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  Speaker 1: It was a religion known as Bonn. And Bon is
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  Speaker 1: a religion that practices a lot of magic. And it
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  Speaker 1: was given to them by the gods that resided in
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  Speaker 1: Mount Kailash. And they practice magic, but they also have
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  Speaker 1: in their, I don't know, I guess their version of
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  Speaker 1: their Bible, stories of exercising demons out of people, practicing rituals.
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  Speaker 1: And it was very heady stuff. But then Buddhism was
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  Speaker 1: brought to them.
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  Speaker 3: Is that B-A-H-N?
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  Speaker 1: I believe so.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I believe so, yes. It wasn't until the 8th century
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  Speaker 1: that Buddhism was introduced into the Tibetan culture. And they actually,
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  Speaker 1: what they did was hodgepodge a little bit of the
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  Speaker 1: Bon religion with Buddhism and created their own whole kind
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  Speaker 1: of version of it, if you will.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like another religion ever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's actually Tibetan Buddhism that, um, gave rise to
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  Speaker 1: the Dalai Lama. So a lot of people are familiar
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  Speaker 1: with the Dalai Lama. It came from Tibetan Buddhism. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and just like all ancient religions, this area of Tibet,
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  Speaker 1: they speak of celestial beings who descended from the sky
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  Speaker 1: and lived in physical structures. Um, And as I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of touching on before, I think that I started
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  Speaker 1: a new mini series on my podcast about ancient architecture.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you look back at it, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the times they try to paint these megalithic structures as
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  Speaker 1: people digging fucking holes and fucking clay pots and riding camels. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just the most basic of lifestyles. And it
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  Speaker 1: absolutely was not. They were capable of so much more
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  Speaker 1: than we give them credit for. Advanced technology, you name it.
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  Speaker 1: They probably knew how to do stuff that we still
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  Speaker 1: to this day, they'd look at the iPhone and be like,
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  Speaker 1: what the fuck is that stupid piece of shit? Like
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  Speaker 1: laser cut stones that are 50,000 tons. I mean, come on.
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  Speaker 1: We don't even have a way of getting laser precision
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  Speaker 1: cuts like that now.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And the pyramids and the Sphinx and really all the
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  Speaker 2: pyramids across the world.
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  Speaker 4: It's well, not all of them.
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  Speaker 2: I know that there are some that like they they
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  Speaker 2: know that the community around them probably built.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, it's like.
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  Speaker 2: How do we know that all these people, we just
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  Speaker 2: assume that they're all cavemen. We just assume that because
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have electricity, because they didn't have technology, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what we refer to as technology today, that they were
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  Speaker 2: probably just working with hammer and chisel.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what the story is, right? That they had
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  Speaker 1: oil lamps and they were fucking wearing loincloths with their
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  Speaker 1: dick and balls swinging. Yeah. It just wasn't like that.
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  Speaker 1: They were highly, highly advanced. And so I do think
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  Speaker 1: that there is some sort of a stargate there in
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  Speaker 1: the mountains in Tibet. There is passages in the Bon
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  Speaker 1: religion where it talks about the god kings and that
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  Speaker 1: they had technology and that they used airships, quote-unquote. So again, I,
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  Speaker 1: so when, when people say, Oh, well, Shambhala is, it's
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  Speaker 1: like a story. It's a metaphor for their religion. It's
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  Speaker 1: a physical place. They're talking about how they had technology.
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  Speaker 1: They mingled with humans. They taught them everything that they knew.
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  Speaker 1: They had airships. What kind of metaphor is, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: The metaphor for what?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what?
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about all this in the bond religion.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: They practiced magic. They casted demons out of people. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was a whole fucking thing.
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  Speaker 3: So when are we talking about did Buddhism make its
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  Speaker 3: way most prevalent in Tibet? What year about?
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  Speaker 1: So my research said the 8th century.
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  Speaker 3: AD or B.C.? B.C. The 8th century B.C.? Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because she said it was around, what, like 20,000.
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  Speaker 1: Years, right? 20,000 years, mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: Well, wait, wait, 7,000 B.C. would be, or 700 B.C.
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  Speaker 3: would be 2,700 years ago, not 20,000. So I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to figure out, like, when did Buddhism, like, really pick
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  Speaker 3: up from where Bon began, you know? So you're saying
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  Speaker 3: about 700 B.C. is when Buddhism kind of got introduced
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  Speaker 3: to this region for, I got you, okay. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: There is this reoccurring thing, though, where throughout the ages
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  Speaker 1: people have tried to go on expeditions to find Shambhala.
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  Speaker 1: And one of them was in 1927. It was a
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  Speaker 1: Russian philosopher guy named Nicholas Rorik. And his crazy ass
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  Speaker 1: took off into the mountains with little to no preparation
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  Speaker 1: in uncharted territory to find this lost kingdom. And on
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  Speaker 1: August 5th, 1927, he documented strange metallic objects flying through
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  Speaker 1: the sky at immense speeds, and he journaled it, and
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  Speaker 1: he said they must have come from the lost kingdom
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  Speaker 1: of Shambhala, although he never discovered the city itself.
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  Speaker 4: Whoa. All right. So, I mean, pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: What was this guy's name?
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Rorick. R O A R I C K.
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  Speaker 2: So pretty much like what I would gather from this
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  Speaker 2: is like, all right, well, he's making an assumption that
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  Speaker 2: it came from the Shambhala, but without a doubt, he
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  Speaker 2: definitely saw, you know, some kind of flying silver raft. Um,
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  Speaker 2: and you're saying it was in this general region of
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  Speaker 2: these mountains that are.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was near Mount Kailash. Um, And actually, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of disappearing acts in this area, he saw these objects
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  Speaker 1: and then they burst off into the sky, how people
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  Speaker 1: usually describe seeing a UFO. It's flying at a mint speed,
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  Speaker 1: it's there, and then boom, it's gone. But in the
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  Speaker 1: Nagari Prefecture in Tibet, there is a civilization there with
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  Speaker 1: towers and it's massive, actually. It's So it towers at
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  Speaker 1: over 12,000 feet. And it was a kingdom called Gugge.
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  Speaker 1: And it was established in the 10th century. And it
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  Speaker 1: flourished for 700 years. It was a massive civilization. And
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  Speaker 1: then one day, out of nowhere, everybody vanished.
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  Speaker 4: Whoa, very Mayan-like. You know what's really strange, just to
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  Speaker 4: interject a little bit?
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  Speaker 2: So my son, he's almost two years old now, Um,
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  Speaker 2: and he always likes, he has like, he says a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of little baby words like that nobody can understand.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But he always has his one go-to phrase and he's
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  Speaker 2: done it literally ever since he started like, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: belting out sounds out of his mouth. And it's always
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  Speaker 2: been Guga, Guga. He always says Guga. So whenever you
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  Speaker 2: say it like that, it's like, Dude, I believe, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a full-on believer that kids can remember their past
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  Speaker 2: lives up until a certain age.
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  Speaker 4: And who's to.
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  Speaker 3: Say, dude?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: That's very interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. Just wanted to throw it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Because they vanished without a trace. Thousands of temples with
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: artwork all over the walls, intricately decorated and carved. Each
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: temple was a legitimate masterpiece and no answers as to
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: what happened to them. Not even a hypothesis. as to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: what happened to this entire civilization. Where the fuck did
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: the people go? It's estimated that 100,000 people lived in
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the kingdom of Gugge, and they fucking vanished in the
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: blink of an eye.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And this is in Tibet, right?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, in the Nagari prefecture of Tibet.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: There are theories, not a hypothesis, not a scientist coming
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: out and saying shit. There are theories of what happened
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: to these people. And the theory is that they traveled
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: deep underground in all these super intricate tunnel systems and
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: underground chambers that were found that led to Mount Kailash.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: What?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. And if you follow... One of the tunnel systems,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you go underground under one of the temples, and you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: follow the tunnel to the end. You get to the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: center of Mount Kailash.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Whoa.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: All right. So let's just say they get to this
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Mount Kailash. There's still no trace of them.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: So, again, with the Bon religion, speaking of a cloaked
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: kingdom with, what do they call them, spires? flying ships
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: or whatever like what what are we talking about here
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a hundred thousand people gone and they have all these
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: intricate tunnel systems caved out to the mountain it's just
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: really weird to.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Me yeah that is super weird i don't i don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: understand how so like it it kind of makes me
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: think of um Where is it that the Black Panther lives?
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: It's like a cloaked Wakanda. It's like cloak.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: You couldn't find it unless you knew the exact like
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: coordinates on how to get there.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know. They leave the like little breadcrumbs and
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: movies like that.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I had in my notes that it would be
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: very similar to Wakanda because it's in the middle of
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Africa and you would be like, oh, it's a bunch
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of fucking elephants and rhinoceroses. And then it's a whole veil, um,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you know, protecting the city, but it's essentially described that way. Um,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: in the, in the texts that it's cloaked, you can't
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: see it unless they let you see it. And, um,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's why so many people travel to Mount Kailash to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: seek the blessing of the gods, which is why they
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: take a step prostrate, take a step prostrate. They're trying
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to gain the blessing of these gods that supposedly live there.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: He said, where do you see that 100,000 Guga people disappeared?
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Because I see that they had a dynasty up all
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the way to 1693.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they flourished for 700 years before they vanished.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: But when did they vanish? Or when is that suspected? Because, again,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: all the way up into 1630 they were conquered, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: then they were reconquered in 1680. Did they, like, disappear
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: in the 1600s?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: It said.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Jacob, why are you trying to debunk this shit, bro?
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm trying to get a good idea here.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: We're talking, like... We're talking about Tibet, bro. This is
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: up in the mountains. It's not like we have so
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: much information about what goes on up there. If in
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: the 1700s these people vanished, who would have wrote that down?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: We're talking about when America was founded. The Redcoats were
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: doing Redcoat shit. I'm not throwing wrenches here. I'm trying
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to make sure of what time period we're talking. That
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: is all.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Google vanished kingdom of guge and just see what it
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: says because i watched a documentary on it and then
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: i found an article on it after i googled it
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but i literally googled vanished kingdom because that's what the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: documentary was called.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Okay look i i imagine this story would not be
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: in our history books It's not crazy that it wouldn't
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: be in there.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, somebody made a documentary on it. I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: somebody had to have documented something somewhere about this. Why
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: would they make it up? I mean, it's totally abandoned.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: This whole civilization is just like in rubble.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So in Hinduism, they have these things that are like
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the superpowers. They're called nadis. And, um, you know, the, uh,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: who was it? Paramahansa Yogananda wrote about it in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: autobiography of a Yogi of all of these different like
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yogi masters that he went and spent time with and
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: learn from and stuff like that. Some of them had
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like super strength, like the Hulk. Some of them like
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: could create a fragrance in their hands and they would
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: just say, Hey, look, picture, like think of any fragrance
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: you want and I will be able to form it
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: here in my hands. And like, this stuff is very
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: well documented. Anyway, this, this book was only written like
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: not even a hundred years ago, like it's not that old. And, um,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and so it's like, I believe in this stuff. Absolutely.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: That people can develop some kind of like very weird powers,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like developing a fucking scent in your hand. Like, why
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: would you need that? But they say that you develop like, um,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: so they call them not, Oh, I'm sorry.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Not naughty cities. Um, S I D D H I's.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: H I S.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: And basically they develop these cities, the city powers. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: they say, don't, don't, don't, you know, get like all
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: crazy whenever you've, you know, learn one of these superpowers,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: because the goal is not to, you know, just be like, oh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: I finally learned one.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: And now let me go teach the world how to
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Like the goal is, is that you rise up and
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: you learn like all of them or some of them
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: along the way until you reach that state of like
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: the absolute, where you're just completely bliss the fuck out
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: all the time.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute you gotta keep the secret secret you're
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: not supposed.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: To keep it secret it's it's more so that you're
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: not supposed to relish in it because that's not the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: goal of obtaining enlightenment.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: It's i see if you're feeding into your pride and
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: ego that's a negative i feel you.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: It goes against it right there you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Go also to the point The Guga tribe. No, no, no.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: We are, in fact, talking about the 1600s A.D. when
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: they overnight vanished. So you did find it. No, no.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And this is all I've checked a couple of different articles. Like, no,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that is, in fact, what the fuck we're talking about. Now,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I haven't found anything as far as a number of people,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: but every single article claims that, yes, they were here.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Here are the ruins. They ran for about 700 years.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And then they pretty much had an overnight collapse that
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: nobody can fully understand why. Now, they're saying that it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: possible that they were taken over by one of their
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: neighboring tribes, which they say makes sense. They found a
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: couple of weapons caches around the city. But that doesn't
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: explain a full overnight collapse of a civilization. If you
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: were to say a city or a castle or even
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: a couple of them in a– you know, coordinated attack.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: We could have that talk, but pretty much there's no
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: record of them after their collapse, seemingly happening like flip
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: of a switch. So yes, we are in fact talking
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: about the early, the 1680s AD.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Well, look, Julia, I hope that you appreciate that Snopes
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: fact check because now you can finish with the rest
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of your story.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: I was just looking into it. She's throwing out years,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and I wanted to ask what years, dude. Okay.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you found it, though, in case somebody
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: thinks I'm full of shit. No, I don't. And that'll
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: give me more credibility for the rest of the information
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I'm about to provide you with.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I always blindly believe you anyway. That's where I am.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, no, so this area there, and they had
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: tunnels carved out to Mount Kailash. The body count for
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: this area is actually surprisingly high. Lots of people die
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in this area. And I wrote in my notes that
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's curious that maybe similar to if you've
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: ever done any research on the suicide forest. And it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: actually called the Okigahara Forest in Japan. It sits at
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the base of Mount Fuji. And they say that there
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: is a goddess who lives there. on Mount Fuji and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: all this death from the suicide force. Like, what is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: it feeding? What is that feeding?
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: It is interesting because you're talking about like how all
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: these places are next to mountains mountains have like the
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: magnetism and stuff like that right so like because it's
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: mainly iron and and you know some kind of minerals
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: and the rocks and everything so there's always like some
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: kind of weird magnetism that happens with these and so
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: it's really not that surprising that you know shit would
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: be getting weird around.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: There Yeah, and I mean, thousands of people, I did
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: an episode on the suicide forest. Thousands of people every
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: year are drawn to the Okikahara forest to unalive themselves.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Well, that's been a big cultural thing in Japan for
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: hundreds of years. But so is this.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Mount Kailash thing. For thousands and thousands of years, people
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: have been drawn there. And they try to do this
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: spiritual journey and they fucking die there. And that's really sad,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: but it just kind of made me think like all
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the bodies are piling up and where is all this
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: energy going? And for what exactly?
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: Are they dying or are their souls ascending and they
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: no longer have a use for their human flesh?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know. A lot of them said dehydration. So
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: we'll leave that up to the listeners.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I will say this, man. The Tibetans have these, they
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: do skulls. And they do skull carvings and etchings and
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: paintings on them and they make death masks out of them.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: It's actually kind of a big thing in Tibet. I've
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: looked at pricing some of these. They are expensive because
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: they find them in these like very sacred burial places
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: along these paths in Tibet. It's insane.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: And to kind of add to my point on why
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they just found out that Mount Kailash is in fact
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a pyramid and not just a naturally occurring pyramid. Now,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: what is interesting is the documentary that I watched came
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: out before they made that discovery. And in the documentary,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it said that Mount Kailash is extremely radioactive and people
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: are told that they can go up there, but they
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: shouldn't stay too long due to the massive radiation.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: So.
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Do they know what the radiation is caused by?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say an active motherfucker up there, pyramid style.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: A vacuum motherfreaker is up there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: There is very few examples, although there are some, of
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: what's called norms. Naturally occurring radioactive material. It does exist,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: but it's not something that you're just going to find
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: bebopping along your little hiking trail. OK, this is something
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: you have to dig to find. It is something that
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: has to have such a perfect combination of things falling
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: into place to make it this radioactive isotope in its
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: crystallic natural form. So I'm not saying that that's never
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: happened before, but it's like to have it even like
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: a rock to have that about it is rare to
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: have it so prevalent on a mountain to where it's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: killing people. I'm I'm sorry.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: What? That was my thoughts. Now, are you ready to
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: take a turn into the occult side of things?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Always.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. So there is actually someone who claimed to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: be in direct communication with this lost city of Shambhala.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And this person also claimed to know the location of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the Lost Kingdom and was able to channel the entities
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: residing there. Do you want to guess who this person
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: might be? Because I'm sure you're going to recognize the name.
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: Aleister Crowley.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Adolf Hitler.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: So in 1888, Madame Helena Petrova Blavatsky.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yes. She publishes her book called The Secret Doctrine. And
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: in this book, she offers detailed descriptions of legendary lost
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: continents like Atlantis and Lumeria. And she claims not only
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: did these ancient civilizations exist, but that they possessed highly
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: advanced technology, including what she described as flying machines and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Blavatsky maintained that human lineage is vastly older than we
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: could ever understand and that these primordial civilizations like Atlantis, Lumeria,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and Shambhala were the foundations of all culture and were
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: much older than Egyptian culture, Vedic culture, or any other
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: quote-unquote ancient culture known to humanity. But what people don't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: know is Is that she received all of this information
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: from an entity that she described as Mahatma. Which just
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: means great soul. But he did have a name. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: he called himself Kut Hume. And he resided in Tibet.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: And he communicated with her telepathically. And manifested himself in
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: her apartment in New York City. through what he called
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a portal or a channel, Stargate, something like that. And
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it's from this entity, Kutume, that she wrote the secret
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: doctrine with all of these occult secrets in it. And
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: she got so obsessed with it and was channeling this
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: being so much, that's what provoked her to start the
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Theosophical Society. based on the teachings from this entity from Tibet.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: And it inspired so many of the great thinkers like painters, writers,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: et cetera. One of the members that I find interesting
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is L. Frank Baum, the writer of the Oz books.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you, like, I don't know how y'all feel.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not a Christian, so I might see it a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: little bit differently. Whenever I hear certain names like, you know,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: a Madame Blavatsky or Aleister Crowley, like I don't care. Well,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Aleister Crowley is a whole different story. But Blavatsky, I
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: don't believe that she was dealing in satanic witchcraft.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Was she? It was just magic and witchcraft.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: So as a Christian, I only just learned about her. OK,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: so and that's not just that little video that me
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: and you watched not too long ago. I knew that
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: she was big in the Victorian era. I knew that
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: she was of Eastern thought process when it comes to
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: the esoteric. But when you say Eastern, that immediately, I
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: kind of don't know much about it. And I'll admit that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I understand Vedic and I understand the Buddhists and I
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: understand the Far East, the China and the Japan and
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: all that. But when you say Eastern, it doesn't just
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: mean the Order of the Rising Sun out of the
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: far samurais of Japan. That could mean everything from like
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Pakistan to Mongolia to Russia to North Korea. It's a
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: very broad thing when you say the Eastern philosophical look
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: at things. So I don't actually know much about Madame
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Blavatsky other than her name and a couple of ideas
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: that I've heard. So I don't know to say for certain.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: She was into some pretty dark shit that there's actually
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: some significant ties to her being the mind behind Jack
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the Ripper. Which is why I did a whole episode
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: on it. And actually, she's up.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: In there.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Like, with the Jack the Ripper lore, I know there's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of it. And a lot of people have
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: speculations on who they think could have been Jack the Ripper.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: But it actually turns out that Jack the Ripper may
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: have been acting on her behalf for certain types of rituals.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: All right. Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I've never really done a deep dive on, on Blavatsky.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I would love to, I, you know, and I'm the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: kind of person, I don't really like to throw the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: baby out with the bathwater. Like I like looking into
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: what Aleister Crowley did and all these other magicians and stuff,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what they've really looked into as far as, you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the occult and ritualistic shit. I like just learning about
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: it and not so that I can, you know, summon
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: the fucking demon God or anything like that. It's more
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: so just like, I just want to understand it. I
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: want to understand how it's done.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the only way to know the truth is
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: to explore all avenues.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Like, I can't come on here and do this episode
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and present this information to you without having looked into it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: You know, if I'm a Christian, so I can't read
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: about Aleister Crowley. I can't read about Helena Blavatsky. Well,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: then I'm an idiot because I'll never know. I'll be
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: ignorant to it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Like, well, you'll get some people who will say you
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: shouldn't look into it because then you're inviting that evil spirits,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: spiritual shit into your life. You know, I know, Jacob,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you don't even like watching scary movies because you think
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I love horror movies.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: It depends. Flasher movies are different than like demonic possession movies.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: There's there's a different spirit behind each of those. The
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Omen has a different vibe than fucking Friday the 13th.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I really seriously agree with you, which is I keep saying, like,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I did an episode on this. I did an episode
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on this. But it's true.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Go for it. That's shit. Hey, plug yourself, man. Fuck yeah.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I did an episode on... You guys have watched it,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Ghost Adventures. Zach Bagans. Yeah, he's into some interesting...
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: We'll just say interesting stuff. And his show does give
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a very... ominous feeling sometimes when you watch it. So
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I did a little episode on that, but... So Helena Podrova, Blavatsky,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: she inspired all these great thinkers. One of them was L.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Frank Baum, another was Thomas Edison, just to name a few.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: But she especially inspired a young man who will later
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: become known as Mahatma Gandhi. And so.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Mahatma Gandhi wrote that meeting her was one of the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: most pivotal encounters of his entire life. So she obviously
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: has some profound information for him to say something like that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you said the spirit's name was Mahatma, wasn't it?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: She called the entity Mahatma, but it really just meant
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: great soul. It would be like calling someone a deity spirit.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: instead of a ghost.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: But the entity.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I thought it was something closer to, like, being canonized. Like,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Gandhi wouldn't do the walk of the earth, but, like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: even we call him Mahatma these days, meaning great soul, because, like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: it's understood he had a great soul. You know what
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I mean? So, like, in that culture, he gets that title.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: But is that something... I don't think you can get
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: that while you're alive. No, they... They called him that
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: while he was alive.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can. I think it's like saying like Pope
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: or Saint or something like that.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: Living Saint, gotcha. Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: The entity still had a name. His name was Kutome.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And let's flash forward, actually. So that was in 1888.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: She goes on to start the Theosophical Society. But now
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: we're going to go to 1918. A name that you
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: have already brought up, Alistair Crowley. Okay, he engages in
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a dark arts magical ritual that he calls the Almanantra
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: working ritual. And he claims that this is the ritual
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that opens an interdimensional portal that allows him to interact
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: with entities. In particular, a specific being that he called Lom.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with this?
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, so according to Crowley... This entity claimed to reside
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: high in the Himalayan mountains of Tibet, just like the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: entity Blavatsky channeled.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, Lam, he later thought about it,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that he was almost like 100% sure that it was
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the devil, right, that was speaking to him. It came
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: through as Lam, but then like after some thought, he
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm pretty sure that was the devil.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Yes. Is that the same ritual that he didn't complete?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: It was supposed to be like a three-day ritual, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: he stopped two days into it, so basically he never
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: closed the portal?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: They wrote about it in the newspaper. It was so epic.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And this entity that he channeled, this Lom, claimed to
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: be a Tibetan master of wisdom. And Crowley drew a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: sketch of this creature. Because that's what the fuck it
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: looks like to me. But what's interesting about this lom
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: is that it had a huge bulbous elongated skull and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: a freaky little pinched up face. And you hear about
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: like Akhenaten and all of these other deities with these
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: huge elongated skulls. And that Anunnaki fill in the blank.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: They all had these elongated skulls like this. boom there
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: you go absolutely and then just a little freaky pinched
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: up face.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: And skull binding was a cultural thing for many cultures
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: around the world the aztecs did it or the mayans
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: did it but if i'm not mistaken there were some
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: asian countries as well that would strap boards to their
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: babies heads to make it elongated like their deities.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Wow somebody turned it into a ouija board look at it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Wow wow that's crazy But you see, there is a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: little sketch down there. It says podcast addict, unknowable something episode.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: And it has the Himalayan mountains in the background and
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a picture of Lom.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm trying to. Holy shit. I never even noticed
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: the fucking. Look at the wizard of fucking Oz.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: The same thing.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I didn't even put that together.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Whoa.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Mind blown.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: Bro, we did an episode.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: That is an entity right there.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: We talked about The Wizard of Oz and how there's
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: levels to that whole story. The book was meant to
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: be a political take, but the author himself being a
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: student of Blavatsky, this checks out.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the movie is real MK Ultra. I did an
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: episode on that as well. And it's pretty freaky. But
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: now we're going to fast forward. So that's two people
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: that two names that everyone would recognize. Helena Petrova Blavatsky
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and Alistair Crowley. talking with entities from this area in Tibet. Now,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to fast forward again, Adolf Hitler, 1938. He
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: funded an expedition with the directive to establish whether or
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: not Tibet was the cradle of the Aryan race. And
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: he was actually inspired by Madame Blavatsky and another book
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: that was written by Edward Bueller Lytton that was called Vril. Now,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: you might be familiar with that as well, the Vril Society.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: So he funds this expedition, and they claim to have
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: found and been in contact with these entities in the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Himalayan mountains, and they sought to prove that Aryans— Were
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the descendants of the magical Vril beings. Have you ever
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: heard this shit?
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Well, this is really what Hitler was trying to accomplish.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: The the perfect human like and he got the whole
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: idea from this very thing. Like, you know, whenever the
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: blonde hair, the blue eye, the perfect like the perfection
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: he was he was trying to create that.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what they say anyway. Take that with a
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: grain of salt.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: But I've heard it across multiple different sources that he
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: was trying to find the perfect human race. And that's
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: where he got the inspiration from.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he thought it was to threat. Yeah, it was
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: a big motivator of him in the beginning of the war.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: But towards the end, when they started losing, they started
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: needing money and resources. So Goebbels, who was like his
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: little lackey, his right-hand man and Goebbels was big, big,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: big with the occult, everything and the ancient ways that
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: are lost and all this. And Hitler even got critical
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: of him towards the end. It was like, he's got
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: us going crazy over these mud huts and like stones
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: and bones and We should be worried about the Russians
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: right now, like in this and this, like towards the
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: in the beginning when he was the Hitler that we
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: all remember. Right. The dude who was losing his mind
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: on the microphone and the one who got the whole
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: nation behind him and had these societies. That guy absolutely
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: was down with throwing excess money, excess resources into everything
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: that could potentially back the claims of a master race.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. They also, the Nazis and Hitler took incredible
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: interest in Shambhala and finding the entrance, how to get
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: in there, because they heard that if they did, that
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: this place was supposed to have immense technology, you name it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: So they were incredibly interested in it. But while the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Nazis were there, the war broke out in 1939 and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: they were called back home. So they never discovered the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: entrance into Shambhala, although they had said to have encountered
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the beings that resided there. And what's interesting is that
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the expedition yielded one piece of evidence that everyone can
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: go and find. They brought back a statue, among other items.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: It was a 22-pound iron statue. And it was supposed
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: to be one of these deities that resided in Shambhala.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: But what's interesting is on the being's clothing, it wore
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: a swastika in the middle of its chest. And it
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: was a symbol for.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: That was a very old Hindu Tibetan symbol.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yep.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It was a symbol for divinity, which predated the Nazis
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: by thousands of years, but they turned it counterclockwise and
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: they used it as this death symbol. But they got it.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: They said that they got this statue from the beings
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: in Shambhala. But what's interesting is that 80 years later
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: from them bringing this statue back, they study it in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: a lab and they discovered that this is their hypothesis,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: it must have been made from some kind of meteorite
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: because they couldn't identify specifically what or where it came from.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: So does that suggest that the story is Correct, then?
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's examples of meteorites and all these things
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: being used, the metal extrapolated from it, the ore being
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: used to make all kinds of things. There's swords that
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: have been famously made from meteorites, and it's seen as though, like,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: you know, you present it to the king. Your Majesty,
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: God gave us the ore that was used in making
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: this perfect blade. Clearly, it was for you. There's examples
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: of this, so... To say there was a statue made
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: from it? Absolutely possible, but that is crazy that there
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: was enough. The size of that meteorite would have had
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: to have been massive. Or is this like a little trinket?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Or is this like a massive statue?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: It's 22 pounds.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's not little.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Well, my thing is their best guess was that it
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: had to have come from a meteorite because they couldn't
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: identify anything else that it could have come from.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's usually identifying markers as far as where it
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: could have come from. Like, what was that episode we
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: did with talking about the iron ore that ran through
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: that section of America that was, like, the best iron
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: ore on Earth? But, like, you could tell, you could
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: do chemical testing to see what area of the world,
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: what mountain range this iron was made from. The fact
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: that they can't do the same thing with this, either A, meteor,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: or B, portal?
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: The gods gave it down to the people, dude. That's
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: what it sounds like to me.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Essentially?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Sounds like to me, but Something that I've always encountered
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: is that when people have stories of these Nephilim type
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: beings that descended from the sky and they mated with
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: human women and they had friggin' elongated skulls and blah
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: blah blah, something that always goes hand in hand with
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: those type of stories is cryptids. I don't know if
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you've ever encountered something like that interviewing someone, but it's
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: always like elongated beings, beings with superpowers, they built the pyramids,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: But there's also cryptids. Why do they always go hand
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: in hand? You have bird-headed beings, dog-headed beings. But then
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you have super giant tall beings living amongst them as well.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So I find that they kind of interlock sometimes. You
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: have certain things that just go together. And it's no
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: different with this because it's been documented, photographed, and prolifically
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: recorded eyewitness testimony. Seeing what the Tibetans call the Yeti.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Right by this fucking Shambhala bullshit. So there's like layers
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to this shit. You got the Bon religion and all
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: these stories. The ancient culture. You have Helena Petrova Blavatsky.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: You have Alistair Crowley. You have the Nazis. Fucking elongated
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: skull beings. Fucking Indian Yeti. How do those things go together?
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Seems like it could be a possible breeding ground, so
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: to say, but is it also possible that, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: because of maybe the specific vibration, because it's a vortex
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: and because you got all these different elemental things that
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: are just magically lining up that maybe the climate's right
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: for it. Maybe it's, it makes it possible for dimension jumping,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: you know, reality jumping in and out of different worlds.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: So, I thought that too, but going all the way
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: back in time, recorded by the shamans of the Bon religion,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: which was the original inhabitants of Tibet, they wrote of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: these beings and they wrote of their function. And they
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: said that they are there to guard the city of Shambhala.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: So wait, okay, now that leads me to my question.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: We have had a guest on our show, and by
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: the way, if you have not met him, his name
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: is Scott Pace. We must have him back on the
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: show soon, Jonathan. Seriously, we were just talking about him
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: the other day at work. We need to have him
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: back on to get an update of what the Sasquatches
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: are doing at his house, okay? He claims, and he
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: is a very, very strong man of faith, he claims
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: that these creatures are of God. made of God. He's
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: not saying that they're angels, but he's saying that they
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: are as in the, I forget the book, chapter and
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: verse that he was talking about, but he said that
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: I am the God of all things seen and unseen.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: He believes that these cryptid beings, not all, not all,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: but at least dogmen and Sasquatch and maybe particularly Asiatic
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: people call them Yetis. He believes that these are benign,
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: not benign, what's the word I'm looking for? Good forces.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: These are very Loving, very powerful beings, but they are
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: like almost closer to God than humans. What is your
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: take on this?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: My take on it? I mean, I don't think that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they're Harry and the fucking Hendersons. Okay. I don't think
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: that at all. I think that they're interdimensional beings. I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: think that they are puppets. They're used in whatever role
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that they're tasked to perform. I do believe that the
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Bible says when the fallen ones came down that they
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: mated with humans and animals alike. And that they had
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: offspring with humans and animals alike. And what would something
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that's half an angel and half a gorilla look like?
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Or half an angel, half a whatever. You know, we
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: hear about mermaids. Creatures of the sea, Bigfoot, dog man, dog-headed,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: bird-headed beings. I think that they may be nice, some
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: of them, but I also think they have a fallen nature.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: So you're saying that they believe that these types of creatures,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: these cryptids, yetis– Who knows exactly what they may have
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: looked like, according to legend. They were being used to
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: guard Chibaba. Doesn't that mean that they would be a
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: good function for that culture? Or is that a bad
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: thing that they're guarding?
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: It's the same thing as fucking Dogman, right? Guarding the
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: other big foots.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: And dog man was seen as a good thing. So
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. Is this like a, is it
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: like a bouncer at a bar that's here to fuck
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: you up if you come up in here? Or is
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: it more like the moral judge that determines if you
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: can or cannot enter? Like what's the vibe, you know?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: They describe it more like the bouncer at the club.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I do know that your audience isn't
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: like predominantly any, oh, they're 80% Christian or 80% whatever, da, da, da.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: you have a mixed audience. So what I'm about to say,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I'll put lightly because I do have very strong opinions
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: on it, but I want to be objective. Beauty is
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder. If this kingdom was
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: evil or had nefarious or ominous agendas behind what they
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: were planting or building there, maybe the whole thing is evil.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: If it was an innocent, loving, caring, they were helping
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: people and starting civilization and had god-king-like powers and they
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: were great to the other humans, and these yeti beings
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: are just tossing people out so they can't go and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: find the city, then whatever. It's literally in the eye
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: of the beholder. I wasn't there. I don't fucking know.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: But I do know a lot of encounters with these
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: creatures are really nasty.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: So that brings me, I have a couple of points
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: I want to bring up here.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: First of all, we talk about, all right, yes, we
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: know that it's written within the Bible, the Nephilim and,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: you know, book of Enoch talks about all of that
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: and shit and everything, right? But like and supposedly these
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: fallen angels came down, made it with the humans, made
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: it with the animals.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: OK, get it. All right.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: I get the whole that could be a Bigfoot. But
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: where is the human equivalent of the Nephilim that is
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: currently around today? I mean, you could just give the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: regular cop out answer.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: That's Shaq. That's Kevin Garnett.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: But I don't think so. What do you think?
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: So I don't believe the NBA is full of Nephilim,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: by the way. No, I don't either. I am a
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: strong Christian who believe in Bigfoot, believe in the giants
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: and all that. I don't believe that those dudes are
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: like the descendants of descendants of them.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: No, I don't either.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is like, what's, what's the, uh,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: like where's the human version of that?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: So I've actually looked into it quite a bit actually. Um,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and I think it's severely watered down from what you
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: would consider to be a giant. Um, They would probably
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: be a normal human height. But like angels would have,
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: they have magic, quote unquote, in their blood. And they
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: preserve this gene throughout bloodlines of families. So the physical
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: attributes may have diminished over time, but they still preserve
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: this gene, which is why a lot of the royal
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: families inbreed with each other They have babies with their
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: cousins and sisters, and they're trying to preserve this gene.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: And they call it the gene of Isis, which is
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: also Genesis, where we learn about the fall ones. So
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think that you're going to find physical attributes.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: They look for blood types. And there's a reason why
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: every newborn baby in the hospital gets a heel prick.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: And that blood is stored in a database. Every human
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: being alive when they were an infant, got a heel
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: prick and their blood was sent off into a database.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: They check all that shit and they will find you.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people, oh, the redheads. Well, I'm
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: a redhead. I've met a lot of redheads. The thing is,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: is that they didn't, they weren't all redheads. There were
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Aryan type looking ones. There were Middle Eastern type looking ones.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: There were, I mean, you name it. They were interbreeding.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: So they're not necessarily keeping a physical trait They're keeping
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the magic in their blood, which is why they think
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: they're superior to us.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this to all of the cryptids that
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: are currently listening. I don't know if cryptids listen to podcasts,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: but I imagine if they did, they'd probably listen to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy show.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I would hope.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Whenever we're talking about like, all right, well, yes, it
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: seems like some kind of weird club. If you were
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: not invited or if you come unannounced, then, you know,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some repercussions going on there. But like,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like maybe not everybody has had to deal
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: with the same fate, right? Like maybe there are a
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: lot of people who die as a result of it,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: but then there's others. Obviously the, the, the, the tale
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: carries on enough to live like in order for us
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: to be able to hear about it. So there are
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: people who have successfully gone to this place or else
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: nobody would, would have ever heard of it. So what
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: if we could suggest here that maybe this is kind
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: of like a I don't know, a Salem witch trial
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: kind of vibe where, you know, a lot of the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: witches back in the day, they, uh, well, not even
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: just witches, but like, think about secret societies, the whole,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the whole reason why secret societies were even made in
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: the first place was because they feared judgment from religious
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: folk who would cast them out and call them all
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: demonic and, and, and say that they're playing with, with
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: stuff that is against God and stuff like that.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: So they had to formed these secret societies. And same
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: thing with witchcraft.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, all the women, you know, they didn't really
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: get along back in the biblical days, right?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Like in the early days.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: And so they started going off and finding their own
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: form of spirituality. Well, what happens whenever they get found out?
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's burn them all.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Let's tie a fucking stone and see if they can swim,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: you know, whenever you tie a stone to their legs.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, could this be that?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe they understand the person that's coming in I mean,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: if we're talking about ethereal beings, who's to say they
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be some kind of telekinetic powers to be able
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: to understand, well, what's your reason for coming here? You know,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: if you're coming to expose us, if you're coming here
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: and like, I don't know. You know what I mean?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I do think they are interdimensional. Like cryptids, I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: do believe that they are interdimensional. And I feel like
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: they have that because of their parents who were fallen angels.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: I think that they have that because they're divine beings.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: whether they have a fallen nature or not, they would
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: still be capable of those things because their parents were
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: capable of those things.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Just out of curiosity, because this is, whenever we're talking
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: about Nephilim and fallen angels and stuff like that, that's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: mainly Old Testament.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: Do they talk about that shit in the New Testament?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, they talk about possessions in the New Testament,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: which is demonics inside a human. There are a few
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: examples of angels making themselves known to people.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Not just with.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: Jesus, but there's Paul meeting Jesus and being smitten with
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: his glory, which is why scales fell from his eyes.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's examples, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, see, why you don't hear about it in the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: New Testament is simply this. They were wreaking havoc on
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: earth and destroying everything and convoluting everything, and it was
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: so fucked. that God wanted to reset everything, which is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: where you get throughout time in every culture, the flood story. Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Multiple floods, though. It's not just one.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Let's say the flood story. We'll just call it that,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the flood story. And so I think that there was
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: pockets that were resilient that maybe lived through the flood,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: but not to the degree that it was before. Because
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you do hear about when they went into the land
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: of Canaan, there was giants there. David and Goliath. Goliath
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: was a giant. That was all after the flood. So
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: there had to be little bits that resisted or a
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: second incursion, if you will.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I think it's very possible that these fallen angels didn't
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: just mate with things on land. I believe that the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: mermaid story has a little more to it than what
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: Disney gives it, right? And like the actual mermaids of
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: old that we're seeing, not as these, oh, they're so gorgeous. No,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: the ones that will fucking eat you and your whole
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: crew alive, son. Like that would go. Like the one that,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: what was his name? Jason had his Argonauts pour wax
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: in all their ears so that they couldn't hear it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: because they will fucking murk us all just trying to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: sail through. Like that, I think has a little more
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: credence in some truth than what people want to believe.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: And I also don't think that it's out of the
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: realm of possibility that some sort of weird demonic fish
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: fucking took place. And maybe that's how giants, not full-fledged Nephilim,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: but like descendant of descendant Cross-pollination shit happened. You know
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Mermaids.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: There's all kinds of crazy stories of shit happening.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I agree. I think that's where the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: mermaid stories come from. But I'm just saying after the flood,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: the ones that died, God said that he sent their
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: spirits to like an intermediate place, shale, and that they
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: can never rest. They can't walk amongst us in the
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: physical world, but they can interact with us in the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: spiritual world. And that their evil spirits are never at
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: rest and they're always looking for a body to possess.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: So that's why it went from Old Testament, they're walking
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: amongst us, New Testament, Jesus is having to cast out
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: demons from everybody because these fallen angel spirits are looking
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: for someone to open the doorway so they can come in.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: They're always looking for a host. And so it's also
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: known that, let's say, that they find a host and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: then you're demon-possessed or whatever, and you get that casted
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: out of you. That's fine. You can go on and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: live your normal life. But what if you needed one
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: of these beings because of their superior knowledge or capabilities, da-da-da-da-da?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: What if we created an empty biological vessel for this
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: spirit to inhabit? And that's where a lot of the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: gray ETs come from. They talk about gray ETs being
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: empty biological vessels. And I think it's kind of, and
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong, But if you created an
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: empty biological vessel with a big elongated skull, like the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: freaking being that Alistair Crowley channeled, for these spirits to inhabit,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: they could interact with us in the physical world without
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: having to possess a body.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: So, all right, this is really interesting because it was
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: just last week on my other podcast podcast. that we
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: had this Muslim guy come onto the show. And I
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: got really, you know, I wanted to ask him exactly, like,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: are there exorcisms involved? I know that y'all don't really
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: call them demons. It's more of the djinn, like, pretty
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: similar kind of thing going on there. Do you ever have, like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: any kind of exorcisms going on there? And what name
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: do you call out to make these fucking demons escape
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: from the body, right?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: I shit you not, bro.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: It's... It's not what you would think, because I always
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: heard that people always say, you got to say Jesus, right?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Turns out that's the only thing that works, according to
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: this gentleman. He says that, and I'm going to butcher
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it by saying it, it's basically like Allah Akbar, but
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: it's like Allah Akbar or.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: Something like that.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Allah Akbar.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Which basically means that God is the greatest.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: And so they escape by that or they're they're forced
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: out by that as well. And so it's it's pretty
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: interesting that you kind of see these possessions happening really
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: across different religions. I thought that it was mainly a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Christian thing, but turns out it's amongst other Abrahamic religions
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: No. Remember, I mentioned it at the beginning of this episode,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the shamans from the bond religion. One of their first
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: fucking manuals in their text was how to cast out demons.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: One of one.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Good point. Good point.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: All right. All right.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: But no, so.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: But no, to your point, Julia, I agree that there
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: is obviously the force of light and the force of dark.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: And yes, that means that they have workers in that.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: Not just, I mean, the ethereal, but we would say
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: angels and demons. Someone else might call it the fey
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: and the djinn. I don't know. Pick your poison. Doesn't matter.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: But to your point, yes, one of those sides is
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: clamoring and clawing to get out and get to us.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: And the other side is waiting for us to come
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: to them. You know, that's just my two cents on it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: It's very clear that whenever you would have an empty vessel,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: so to speak, the greys or even a cloned human,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: one of these sides is clamoring to get out. The
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: other side is waiting. You see what I'm saying? So
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: that makes sense that this would go that way.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: Well, let me ask you your opinion on this, though.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Like, do you believe that you can speak to, you know,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: loved ones that have passed? Is that like do you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: ever say, you know, so, for example, my my grandma,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I call her Nana. You know, if I'm ever like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: in a pickle, I always just try and call upon
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: her wisdom in a sense.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: And, um, and I'll, you know, I'll reach out and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, there's some kind of guidance
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: going on. I mean, it's, you can't really confirm or
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: deny it in one way or it's a spiritual thing.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Um, but that being said, is it possible that I'm
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: not talking to her?
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not like that, Jonathan. Actually, I'll tell you honestly,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: cause I grew up in a haunted house. Um, and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: I very Christian and It's not that my information that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I provide on this podcast or on my own podcast
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: is diminished in any way because I identify myself to
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: be a Christian. I think that the information I provide,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: you can take it however you want to take it,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: but it's the same, you know. But in my opinion,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: I think that you can get angel visits and your
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: loved ones can send you signs of, Just like the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: angels came down and spoke to Mary and told her
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: that she was going to be pregnant with God's, you know,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: you hear about angels, heavenly angels interacting with humans. Why
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: would it be any different when your family members become angels?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Like you, I believe you can still get angel visits,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: but if you ever thought that you heard her voice,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: but you got a distinctual sick feeling in your stomach
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: when you heard it, A little bit different. A little
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: bit different.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Right. So I'll say this, and I'm probably going to
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: piss off some Christians with this answer. So I believe that, yes,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: you can talk to dead people and relatives and loved ones.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: The Bible is very clear that this is a thing
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: that can happen. Necromancers are for real. The Bible also
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: says don't fucking do it. Now, that being said, if
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: a loved one from the other side comes to visit you...
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: That is a difference that you didn't seek that out.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying? And that is somebody that
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: coming from somebody who had a, what I thought was
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: a family member coming out to meet me in reality,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: it was a demon in disguise. I'm not saying that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: that is going to be a 100% case across the board.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to judge someone else's experiences. That was mine.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: And I take it as a, with a grain of salt.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: I'm saying that it's, I believe that it's possible. You
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: can be visiting a dream. You could be visited by
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: a loved one. I'm not going to say that's impossible.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: The Bible says it fully is. But like going on
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: to a Ouija board or going to a medium to
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: talk to somebody, the Bible is clear that it can happen.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: This is real life. And don't fucking do it. That's
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: just my.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it does say don't fucking do it. But
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: if you're in your kitchen.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: Those words, don't fucking do it.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, essentially, I might be paraphrasing a bit. Okay.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, let's let's say. in Jonathan's situation and it's
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: happened to me before too because me and my mom
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: were so we were almost the same person we were
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: so close um and I had her on my mind
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: and and she's been heavy on my mind for you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: know with this day we'll say um and I'm in
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: my kitchen and then I smell something that I I'm
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: like oh my god that's my mom or I feel
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: her or I I sense something or I get a
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: message or like randomly, I was really, really thinking of
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: her and it was heavy on my heart the other day.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: And then she was suggested to me to follow on Instagram,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. I think that those are signs,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: you know, like I've never been suggested to follow my
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: mom on Instagram for my podcast Instagram before, but that
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: day she popped up and I just needed to see
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: her face. So yeah, I do think they can send
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: you the, these little reminders that you're.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: But you weren't seeking that out. You weren't going out
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: of your way to try to talk to her.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not lighting up a ritual or anything like that.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Well, if we're trying to get really weird here, technically, scientifically,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: it may be not necessarily what you think. So whenever
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: we get into the quantum mechanics and the physics of
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: all of it, and then you get into fucking quantum entanglement.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Quantum entanglement is just an energy that goes back and forth.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: It could be from you right now all the way
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: to the opposite end of the universe, if you believe
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: the universe is a real thing.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: That being said, it's said to, like, trek. Like, it's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: not bound by time.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: It's not bound by, you know, the regular laws of
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: physics and stuff like that, right? So maybe you could
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: be reaching said loved one In another year, in another world,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: in another dimension, in another fucking parallel universe. I don't
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: necessarily believe that whenever we die, we automatically just go
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: rest forever until the kingdom of God comes down to earth.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: I think that there's probably more to it.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I think you go to heaven. Or hell.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: But listen, listen, hear me out.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's like an immediate judgment. I don't
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: think God needs a waiting room.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an immediate judgment.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: He's kind of good enough. He doesn't need that, right?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do believe it's an immediate judgment. But this
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: is my thing. The Bible is one of the most
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: supernatural texts that was ever written, and people just completely
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: ignore that. And I was actually speaking to someone who
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: has went back and to the original, original. I'm not
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: talking about a transliteration or a translation or anything like that.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: The original text. And he was talking to me about
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: the Tower of Babel. And people think of it as
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: this physical tower that they were building into the heavens.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: And they were trying to go fight God. And that
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: sounds so stupid and silly. Ha ha ha ha ha.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: But the actual word that is mistranslated. Is that it
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: was never tower. It was never tower. The original word
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: was portal.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Let's fucking go. That makes so much more sense.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: They were trying to fight God on his terms.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: Okay. That's what I, you know what? And that's something
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: that's always baffled me.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Whenever we're talking about a tower, like we got fucking
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: supposedly spaceships that are going to outer space, but a
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: tower is the one that got struck down.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: You know, we're building a Stargate tower. Which is why
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: the Babel, he separated everyone because they were becoming too smart.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: That math, maths. Jacob.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: I actually never heard this before. I'm going to look
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: into the actual Hebrew word, but to your point, you're right.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: The Bible itself is one of the most, and in the,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: I was going to say something that was going to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: sound derogatory and mean spirited. And it wasn't intended that way.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Let me, let me check thine self here. The Bible
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: isn't a book of magic. However, if you really wanted
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: to break it down by its complexities, it might as
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: well be, it works mathematically. It checks out that if
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: you do what it says, do it works. And if
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: you like break that down, I heard a pastor, it
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: was just breaking down per the Hebrew language in the beginning,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: the first three words of the Bible, okay? We think
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: of that and we hear that all the time and
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: we immediately imagine, you know, vacant stardust floating into nothingness
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: or something, right? Everybody's got their own version of it.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: The Hebrew language of those three words, the math that
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: breaks down of those three words, basically this dude, not
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: even like pulling at string theories here, Very educationally breaking
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: down the Hebrew language, what is meant by every syllable,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: every number, every consonant, everything. In the beginning literally stands
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: for at the absolute point of the beginning of all
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: of it and to the end of forever. That's all
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: that's encompassed by those three words if you really break
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: it down. It's talking about basically, it is insane. And
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: if you really break things down, you really dig deeper.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: And again, not per English translations. Look at the English translation.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: Study that. It's beautiful. Look at the Latin translations and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: study that. Look at the Greek translations. Look at the
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: Hebrew translations. Look at the Ethiopian Coptic translations. It is
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: incredible the breakdowns that have been done by educated people
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: far smarter than any of us will ever be.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: So in the beginning also encompasses... The end.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: But I do want to interject something, and it's not
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: to downplay anything that Jacob has just said. But I've
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: gotten to a point where I've been raised in this religion,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: and I've come under attack from many people saying how
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: stupid it is. And I will tell you that a
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: lot of people, and I always keep this right here.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are getting wrapped up in this. Okay?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: They're getting wrapped up in this part. And if you want...
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: boring version of Christianity where you've got to sit and
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: open this thing up and read these words. I'm sorry
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: I just don't think you're going about it the right
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: way because in the Bible this is like a cheat
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: code for us to use use for life and to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: give us hope and faith but in the Bible it
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: says true Christians can call down the fire of God
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: they can create miracles heal people give sight to the
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: blind all these things there's not a true Christian quote unquote,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: on earth that is practicing that.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: Why? Bring down the fire of God. Stop worrying about
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: this book. Stop worrying about the translation of these pages.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Stop worrying about what the words mean. Call down the
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: fire of God and you will see miracles. And that's
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: what gives you faith.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you why right now.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Because all that stuff is labeled as magic, as wizardry,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: as witchcraft, as satanic. And that's where people don't know
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: how to really discern the difference between the two. I
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: think that there absolutely is a difference, and correct me
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: if I'm wrong here, but this is just my way
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: of interpreting it. I think there's absolutely a difference between
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: white magic and dark magic. There absolutely is. And you
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: can say that it's being pulled from the same area.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that for one second. Because on every
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: single episode of Meta Mysteries, I do a tarot reading,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: and every single time I pull a card, it is
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: exactly a mirrored image of whatever the episode was talked about.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: Am I calling on the Dark Lord for that? No,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: I don't have evil in my heart.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not calling on Lucifer, please shine your fucking light-bearing light.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: And I don't get some chills that go up my
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: spine or some kind of ache within my stomach whenever
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm reading this stuff out.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: It's not like that. And so I think that.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: It's worth it to at least take a gander. If
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: you're not going to practice in it, I get it.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: But at least try to understand that side of things
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: and stop calling all that evil. That is, you're selling
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: yourself short, I believe.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should condemn anyone for anything else.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: I think that at this point in my life, I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: want to be a beacon of hope for people who
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: are struggling in this crazy, crazy world that we live in.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: And if I can do that, great. But I'm not
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: anyone's savior. And so I will continue to just do
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: the best I can to provide factual and interesting information
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to open people's minds. But whatever they decide to do
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: with their self at the end of the day is
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: their decision. But I'm with you. I don't condemn anyone.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: I think it depends on where it comes from, though.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: If you're sacrificing children to perform your quote-unquote miracle, then
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We can all agree that that's based in evil.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, not that. I'm talking about he's saying he
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: does a tarot reading like I'm not. Who am I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: to tell him that's wrong? Because I can't judge him.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Only God.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: The Bible clearly said not to do it.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: It said specifically tarot.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: It said specifically those that deal in chance, meaning those
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: that cast bones and dice or play with cards and
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: think that the randomness that will be presented before them
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: has a prediction on their life. It says don't do it. Yeah. No,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: I don't believe that it's chance.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: It's not chance. There's no way that it's chance.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: You're dealing with a deck of cards with all these
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: different cards and you're shuffling them. There's no chance.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Let's not.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: I literally just told you that every single episode, a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: card relates to whatever it is we're talking about. How
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: is that a chance? That's saying that like, oh, I
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: got a 50-50 chance. No, I'm not saying it's 50-50, homie.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: No, you have like one in a hundred.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: I'm saying every time, dude. I'm telling you, dude, like
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: this is, Look, don't take my word for it. I'm
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: just telling you my experiences. I don't believe that this
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: is happening by chance at all.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: But anyway, all right. We veered way off the track.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: No, I don't like it when you guys argue. I'm
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: such a pacifist.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: We're not arguing.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: No, this is just brotherly love at this point.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: I know Jonathan deals with tarot cards. We've talked about
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: it a bunch. I don't think that Jonathan is talking
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: to Satan. no i don't we're talking about the full
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: extent of things.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: If i thought that i would never come on your show.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: You know dark lord go fuck yourself i don't know
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: what else i gotta say to get my point across
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: with that but anyway let's get back to fucking uh
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: tibetan yeah.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: I only have uh i just have a little bit
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: of um extra information here for you guys that i
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: thought you would find interesting um There is a place
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: near Mount Kailash in the Himalayan mountains called Skeleton Lake.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: And I'm not kidding. Google it, Jacob. It's the creepiest
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: shit ever, okay? And the beach, if you will, is
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: made up of what is estimated to be around 600
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: dead body skeletons.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I did Jacob's job. I Googled it.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: When did it become my job to do that?
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Holy shit. I did it one time because I'm making
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: sure we're talking about in the last millennia. And now
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm the bad guy. When Joe
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: Rogan asked Jamie to pull up some random shit, people
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: loved that he fact-checked. I do it now. I'm getting
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: called out. Whatever, man.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: God, you're just a pompous ass. Just kidding.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Gotta be.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: But no, so as you can see from these photos
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: here that Jonathan is showing, they estimate that this little
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: beach here is made up of about 600 dead body skeletons.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: And they say that all of these bones got there
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: from some major catastrophe of some kind. And they all
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: died at the same time. And all these skeletons, it
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: was like a crazy accident. And they just ended up there.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: But in 2019, they started studying individual bones and they
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: found that Skeleton Lake is actually some kind of a
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: dumping site. And all the bodies have died at different
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: times for different reasons. And it appears that the bones
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: have been stacked up there for what is estimated to
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: be thousands of years.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: So it's an ancient burial place.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: Now, some of the skulls showed unhealed compression fractures, among
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: other injuries. And researchers are still baffled by this because
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: they're dying in all sorts of weird trauma-esque type of ways.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: And DNA testing confirms that they're all different races. From
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: all over the damn place. So it couldn't have been
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: an isolated incident that caused this mass grave. And what
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: draws people to this lake? It's on the Pilgrim's Trail
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: to Mount Kailash. And the Pilgrim's Trail is to lead
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: you to Shambhala. Now what do we know about the Yeti?
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: The guardians of Shambhala. Not so much an esoteric creature,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: but a very physical creature.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: My question to you both is, is there an interdimensional
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: portal located in the mountains of Tibet or is there
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: a physical cloaked kingdom that has been lost to us? Wow.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest with you. As I'm looking
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: at the pictures of those skulls and the, and the,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: the bodies, my first thought before she even broke down
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: what it was, was thinking like, okay, I could see even, uh,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: a massive flood, right? And it washed all these bodies here.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: They decomposed. The skeletons remain, this and this. For that
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: to be preserved in that manner for thousands of years
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: as been predicted like this, okay, that got me kind
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: of like whatever. Then when she said, no, but they're
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: from different time periods, different ages, around different, like it's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: not like it was one tribe that was like washed
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: down there with a flood. This was from all over
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: the world. So that's got me thinking, okay, I could
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: see if this was, because the Zoroastrians, for instance, they
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: had their towers of silence, right? If the local inhabitants
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: of Tibet was bringing their dead, and this was an
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: ancient burial ground, and they had been using it as
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: a burial ground for these years, okay, I could see
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: that too. But again, they wouldn't be that well preserved.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: And they wouldn't be Caucasian and Black and White and
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: Asian and this. There are different races, different time periods. compression,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: skull fractures, like all this weird stuff. Like they got
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: bashed over the head.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: See, okay, even one, okay, let's say there's like a
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: thousand bodies found. Hypothetically, they're still at an arbitrary number.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: If 10 out of those 1,000 were like victims and
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: it was clear, okay, I mean, what were the odds
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: that some of them were dumped there because they were murdered?
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: I could even get down with that. Let's give a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 3: little room for human error. That was a lot of bodies.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: That wasn't just like the mafia's dumping grounds in Tibet
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: for the last couple centuries. Like that's not what we're
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: talking about here. That's insane. Now, most of them, you said,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: had compression fractures and like serious trauma to them.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Trauma deaths.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: This is kind of a little bit bigger than that.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of it. I'm going
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: to be very honest with you.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: But the question is, do you think that there's an
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: interdimensional portal in the mountains? Or do you think that
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: there is a very physical cloaked kingdom?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, you're still waiting for me. I'm sorry. I thought
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: Jonathan would actually take it a little bit.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: No, no, I'll go after you. I just wanted to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 4: see your opinion.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: I don't have an answer. This is the first I'm
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: ever hearing of it. Given the evidence provided here, I
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: would say that interdimensional yeti might be out there just
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: murking motherfuckers and dumping them in the lake for forever.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: I see that as kind of a prime candidate.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: There's no wrong answer because nobody knows what the fuck's
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: Are you ready for the weirdest answer that you could
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: possibly get?
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Hit me.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: So we know that the Bigfoots, the Yetis, whatever, they're
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: outside creatures, right? They like observing nature, being one with nature.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: They're a lot more connected to the forest than we are.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Let's just be real in this day and age. Well,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: one crazy thing that you may find out whenever you
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in nature is that you
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: may start to learn how nature natures, okay?
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: For example.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: A lot of times around trees or some spots in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the woods, you'll see a lot of poison ivy.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: We've all been in the woods.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: We've all experienced some kind of poison ivy, right? Well,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: it's said that whenever poison ivy grows, it's usually the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: tree system or the fungal network that is speaking to
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: all these other plants that cause this poison ivy to
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: grow to help protect maybe other plants. help protect maybe
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: some other parts of the ground so it'll grow. That
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: way it helps ward a lot of other creatures or
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: people away from that area, okay? Now, that being said,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot, the Yeti, whatever kind of interdimensional fucking monster
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: you want to think of, maybe they have took a
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: lesson from old Mother Nature and they said, you know what?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: I want people to not even come close to this area.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: This is my house. This is where I live. I
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: don't want nobody coming and interfering. Somebody knocks at my door.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, hey, dude, Louisiana law. Somebody fucking breaks into
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: your house. You have the right to put a bullet
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: in between their eyes, right? Well, I'm sure they don't
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: really care about laws, but that's just another point. The
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is, is it possible that
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know, the bigfoots of this area have decided
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: to lay out the skeletal bones in order to ward
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: off oncoming people, a lot like the poison ivy of
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: the forest in a.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 4: Way, because you think about it. Why would you leave
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: a trail of bones along the way? You're talking about
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: bones that.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like you would think that maybe over
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: generations would get overtaken by some mud or would break
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: down in some kind of way. There would be some
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: shit that would eventually get on top of it and
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: make it sink down to the ground, whatever, right? But
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: for some reason, this shit's just still there. Now, I
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: don't know about the climate.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 4: I know it's cold. Maybe shit works differently on the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 4: hard ground. It's not going to sink in. I get that.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: But for you to have an entire trail leading to
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: this very specific lake kind of seems like He's trying
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: to ward people off. Don't come to this area because
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: if you do, I'm going to fuck you up because
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: this is my portal.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to bash your fucking head in.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: That's my answer.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: I believe it's a portal.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: Portal, says Jonathan. And Jacob, really, you said it was
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: a portal too. But do you think that they could
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: be guarding a very physical place?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: So I believe that these Yeti slash Bigfoot slash whatever,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: if they are real... And yes, we're going to go
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: ahead and throw the tinfoil hats on. Hold on. I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: believe that they are interdimensional, meaning that they use that
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: as a travel sense. I don't believe that there is
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: a cloaked kingdom. Well, let me rephrase that. Let me
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: rephrase that. We live in the third dimension. What is
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: going on around us in the fourth dimension? We don't know. Okay,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: now that doesn't mean that it's cloaked. That just means
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: that we don't know what's going on because we only
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: have five senses. You see what I'm saying? To us,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: we may use the term cloaked. I don't think it's
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: hidden from us. I think it's just we clearly don't have...
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: We don't have the color spectrum in our eyes to
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: see that much of the rainbow, if you catch my
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 3: drift here. So, I believe that these interdimensional beings jump
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: in and out of that dimension to our dimension, and
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: vice versa from 2D to 3D. I don't see why
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: that couldn't be possible on all fronts. So, I think I...
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: believe what you're saying, but I call it different things,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: We do know, though, that if anyone can Google it,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: Mount Kailash is a pyramid, a very physical pyramid.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: John, then pull that up. And also tell them where
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: they can see it if they would like to see
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: what you're talking about.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: You can come on over to patreon.com slash cult of
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: conspiracy podcast or rockfin.com slash cult of conspiracy.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: You'll be able to see Julia's beautiful face.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Along with all of the images and all the examples,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: all the articles that we're presenting here today.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: And you might be able to see the show a
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: couple of days earlier. And one of the best things
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: you can possibly do. is you can get away from
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: those nasty little commercials that you hear during podcasts. I
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: know it's a pain in the ass. I know it's
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: a waste of time.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes to stop what they're doing and hit the
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: 15-second forward button.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: I get it. It's a royal pain.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: If you find that to just be just a suck fest,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: come on over to Patreon and Rockfin, or Patreon or Rockfin.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: You could do both, but why? I don't know why
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: you do that.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: Anyway, those links are down in the show notes down below,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: and it really helps support the show and our dream
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: of making this a reality, a full-time deal.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: So, all right. So here is Mount Kailash.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: So I'll read you the article from April 16th, 2024.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Scientists have discovered that the top of Mount Kailash is
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: actually a man-made vacuum pyramid. It is surrounded by more
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: than 100 other small pyramids. According to preliminary estimates, the
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: direct height of the pyramid complex is between 100 and 1,800 meters,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: while the Egyptian pyramid is only 146 meters.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I mean, it's a fucking mountain. It's huge.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: So.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: To say that this is a pyramid, are we suggesting
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: absolutely man-made?
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: That's what this article says.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: I'll say this. There's going to be a naysayer. There's
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: going to be a naysayer that says that that mountain
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: was formed from glacial shifting, right? Like the Matterhorn, a
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: very famous mountain that was done in a similar fashion. Look.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: Look at this thing and tell me that that is
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: not equidescent on all sides. Glacial shifting, making one side
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: super smooth, one side this way and a little bit.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: That's one thing. There are certain angles of it, though.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: If you look at certain angles in these pictures, you
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: can tell that it's incredibly ancient pyramid.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, whenever you look at like looking at other angles,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: look at that angle.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 4: Come on, that's for sure something different than the rest
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 4: of the mountains that are around it.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Now, that's why I tend to think that there is
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: something interdimensional happening. Maybe Shambhala was a very physical place
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: when that wasn't a snow-covered peak and there was an
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: actual civilization, a kingdom. But I don't think it exists anymore,
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: although people are still, just like they still look for
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: fucking D.B. Cooper's treasure chest. I don't think that they're
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: going to find anything, but I do think that it
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: could have existed.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's also possible that, you know, there's
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: some kind of spiritual remnants left over. I mean, a
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: lot of people, they go and visit, you know, the
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: pyramids of Giza. They say, I feel some kind of
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: weird vibration.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: I can't really explain it. I feel different. My, my
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: body feels weird.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 2: My mind is, you know, a lot of people get
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: like a, you know, maybe it's more of a possibility
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: that you receive some kind of.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Their butthole or something.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: And so Rosebud.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: And dude, honestly, take a, Whenever we're able to, I mean, dude,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: you're talking about going full-time here in August, praise be,
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: but if that does happen or when that happens.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: Speak into existence, brother.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: There will be treks out to this mountain, out to
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: other pyramids and all these weird places. I would love
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: to go take a visit out to Skinwalker Ranch. I
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: would love to take a visit out to the Arizona
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: spot that I mentioned earlier, Sedona.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: Like, all these wild and weird places.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: Fucking Roswell? All day, dude.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Sign me up. I've been there. Oh, yeah, no.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: We're going to be doing this for sure.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: They have a festival once a year. It's amazing. You
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: should go. A lot of truthers and conspiracy theorists, people
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: who are... Actually, I met a guy who you can
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: find on the Gaia channel, but he also has his
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: own YouTube channel. He worked in a secret underground military base,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: and he spoke out about it And he was at
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: the Roswell Festival. So you should go while they're having
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: the festival.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: It's really cool.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: They have alien pancakes at IHOP.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: Damn, that's awesome.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: Do you know around what month or what season that?
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. So I went uh right before nope
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: right after the fourth of july it was the weekend
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: right after the fourth of july so you still have time.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 4: Jacob all right well that's a little bit before jacob's
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: going full-time.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: So maybe this summer is going to be heavy heavy
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: with me working to try to get money stacked up
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: for things brother but Damn, in our very, very, very
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: near future, my man, we are going to be hitting
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: all the things and all of the stuff. I promise you.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: And we are.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking about doing like a bunch of,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: you know, doing making this like an LLC and making it,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: you know, legit and stuff like that.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm LLC this fuck over here, my boy.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: And whenever that happens, dude, fucking conspiracy van on the way, baby.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Just like the mystery machine.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: My truck purchase is about to be a business expense, brother. Oh, yes.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I have started a show. It's my
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: same podcast, but it's just a thing that I do
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: on random Fridays called Phantom Friday. And I talk to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: people about their paranormal experiences and or cryptid experiences. And
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I've started going to a lot of on-site haunted places
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: here in Oklahoma and other places. And I do like
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: a little pod-cumentary podcast. on Patreon, where I show you
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, me staying there, my experiences staying there,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: the history behind the place. I stayed at a Masonic
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: orphanage that's been converted to a bed and breakfast. I'm
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: going somewhere next week, actually in Ohio, that is called
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Madison Seminary. It was like some dark stuff. Anyways, so
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: I do find it interesting and I think it's very
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: engaging for the listeners to for you not only to
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: talk the talk, but also walk the walk.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 4: Fuck yes, dude. That's, that's like a, that's a big dream.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: Like whenever we first started this, we, we had dreams
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: of like, all right, we're going to, we're going to
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: be like a traveling podcast and we're going to go
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: visit all these, all these wild places. Like imagine some
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: crazy stuff goes down and like, Kansas city or something
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 4: There's a fucking alien invasion.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 4: Hop in the fucking hop in the van. We're going overnight.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a red eye, you know, like that.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Well, at least like once a month, us taking
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: a trip somewhere to do something. I absolutely see that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: being a thing.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Something that you should add to the bucket list that
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: we could collaborate on. Um, and I've always wanted to
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: collaborate with someone on it because it's a very big
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: topic is, and actually, um, Jonathan is closer than maybe
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: you are, Jacob, but the Oklahoma City bombing memorial and the,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the conspiracies behind that, I lived 20 minutes from it,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: maybe less, and I've never wanted to go there and
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: cover it. I mean, you can still go in one
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: of the buildings and see all this stuff, but, um,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: and the memorial itself is extremely occult in my opinion,
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: but like the reflection pool similar to what they did
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: for 9-11. But it's such a huge topic that I've
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: wanted someone to help me with it because there's a
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: lot of information to cover. So if you're ever in Oklahoma,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: we can do an episode on it. It would be
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that it would be that crazy that
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: this summer would be too soon just to get real weird.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not... I mean.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: let's do.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: It yes yes dude i would love to go and
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: cover all that all that jazz like because there's a
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: lot of conspiracy surrounding that okc bombing dude like that
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: that's some wild shit that's going on.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: There you can go and lay your hands on some
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: of this stuff they have parts of the building that
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: are we're still intact with like all the little splatters
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: on it that you can just go and put your
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: hand on it. It's really crazy. You guys got to
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: see it. Wow.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 4: I'm down. Yeah, that's definitely in the works.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Julia, so tell us a little bit about how your
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: show's been going. Maybe some other topics that you've been covering.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe some pointers as to when the next time you'd
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: be coming on and covering a certain thing.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I would love any time that I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: do a big research like this that's taken me a
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: couple months to put together. I like to come on
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: your show and try to give you something different. A
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: lot of times the information can get repetitive and I
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: want to be interesting. So I came on and talked
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: to you about the.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 4: He's still there.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, OK.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: I'm here. Go ahead.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: I came on and talked to you about the Marilyn Monroe,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Jim Carrey, you name it. I'm always working on something,
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: so God only knows. We'll get together on another topic soon.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: But I've just been doing the same wonderful stuff. I
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: have Laurel Canyon that I talked about on Tinfoil Hat,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. I talked about that on your show and
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: Tinfoil Hat. I have the Phantom Fridays with Cryptid and Paranormal,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: true Cryptid and Paranormal experiences. And I like to go
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: deep dive into movies and show all of the weird
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: symbolism and also musical artists, actors, etc. And actually, one
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: of the ones that I have been looking into is
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Harry and the Hendersons. So maybe it's interesting that it
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: got brought up on this episode.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: What is there to look for in that? Like what's
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: tickled the fancy in that one?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: You would be surprised.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 4: Symbolism?
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: Wow. Okay.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: And the director. You know, he didn't start off making
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: children's films. He started off making psychological thrillers. And the
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: first movie he ever wrote and directed was a movie
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: called Nymph. And it was about a little girl. who
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: had split personality disorder, and I believe the cover of
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: the movie said, underage and overeager. Whoa!
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: What the fuck?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then he partnered with Steven Spielberg to come up
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: for the concept of Harry and the Hendersons.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, man, this sounds like some.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: Group going on.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: That's what it's.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just took a fucking negative turn. Holy shit.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: You know, in a similar story would be I can
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: never remember his name, but the writer from Rick and Morty,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: you know that he didn't start.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: What was he actually accused of? What was I remember?
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Like.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: You struck a chord with Jacob. He watches that.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: Shit every night.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 4: I still watch it all the time. It's one of
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: my favorite shows to watch while I'm baked. I love it.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: I heard there was allegations of things, but I never
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: heard confirmed what happened.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily allegations as much as
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: it is a script or TV show that he started
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: working on.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: That was extremely like, it's, it's.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: Just like some heady stuff.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Well, it was basically centered around, and y'all can go
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: look this up, but it was basically, I want to
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: say it was like an HBO thing, maybe something like that, Cinemax.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: But he made, it was like a TV show or
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: a movie or something like that that he made, and
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: it was like a teacher who developed this weird love
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: for one of his little boy students.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: It has to be in there somewhere, right?
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 4: Like so much so that the teacher ends up stalking
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 4: the kid all the way home and the kid sleeps
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: out in the living room on the couch so that
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: the teacher can peek in through the window.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, it's like super sexually predatory and everything.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's not good. Anyway, that's where that like
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: it was like forgotten about or maybe it just never
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: made it big. Obviously, I imagine something like that wouldn't.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: But then like it came, like it made its rounds.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: I guess people started looking into it and they're like, what,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: this guy made fucking Rick and Morty?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 4: Like what the hell?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: And that's supposedly from what I heard is the reason
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: why Rick and Morty went off the air for a
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: year or two. Because it took a little break for
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: a year.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it took a long break. And it was like,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: we'll see when it comes back. And that was a
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: part of it almost.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: God damn it. That's the reason why.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: That's pretty cray.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: That's pretty fucking cray. But that's the stuff I love
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: to look into.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: And I like to cover it on my show. I
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: cover all kinds of stuff just like you guys. I mean,
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: no topic is really off limits for me. I like
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: true crime stuff too. um that ends up actually being
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: kind of conspiratorial because a lot of murderers were made by.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: Design oh yeah yeah programmed.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: To kill baby programmed to kill.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: Dude i'm saying like a lot of these uh serial
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 2: killers they they got a cold following.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: You know like.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 4: People love that shit like What was that one? Um,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 4: the dude who was eating faces, uh, Dahmer, right?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: He ate dicks and balls and ass and everything.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: Hey dude, ass is probably the, you know, a lot
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 4: of meat up in that thing.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: But, uh, but yeah, like even he remember like in
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: the documentary or in the show, whatever that.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: They made with, uh, Netflix show, whatever the fuck.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: Um, remember he was like getting like fan mail while
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: he was in jail.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: Ted Bundy. So did Richard Ramirez.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: John Wayne Gacy. Who was writing him? Brian Peck was
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: writing John Wayne Gacy and was like pen pals with
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: him and had self portraits that he did of himself
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: in jail. Yeah, man.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you program to kill baby program to kill.
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  Speaker 4: And you see it all the time.
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  Speaker 2: And this is like, they're sickening dude, because they try
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  Speaker 2: and lure the kids in with, with this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, well, you know, look, this director, he
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  Speaker 2: made Rick and Morty. I like him now. And let me,
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  Speaker 2: let me look into that. And it's like, it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of what you were talking about, about that satanic
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  Speaker 2: ritual abuse, right? Like that, that fucking programming, like today
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be Cinderella. You're not Maria anymore. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I believe that wholeheartedly, like
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  Speaker 2: this is full on MK ultra style shit.
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  Speaker 1: One of these days, and you can name the day,
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to come on, and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a fucking long one, but I will give you JonBenet Ramsey.
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  Speaker 1: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: We've been talking about doing a JonBenet Ramsey episode. Fuck yes.
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  Speaker 1: I've done a two-part series on it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, you can definitely come back next month with that.
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  Speaker 2: You can come back next week for all I care
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  Speaker 2: but like you know we'll space them out.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Alright well look Julia you always come and you bring
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  Speaker 2: the best the best stuff all the time like it
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  Speaker 2: really gets the mind stirring every single episode like you
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: said you came on Marilyn Monroe Jim Carrey you did
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  Speaker 2: the Halloween horror special that we did which was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of fun and we also did the Halloween murders.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yes we did And so it's always such a
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  Speaker 2: great time. Let our cult members know where to find
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  Speaker 2: you if they don't already.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. Yeah, I'm wherever you listen to podcasts,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: not on YouTube anymore because fuck them. And Patreon room
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: 237 is available where you can get the video and
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: the full audio and early access to every episode and
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: bonus content there. And I am very appreciative of you
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: having me on Because as a female in the conspiracy
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: theory podcaster, I feel like we kind of eat our
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: own a little bit. And I just want to give
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: people good information. I'm not really in this for any
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: type of like, look at me. I would rather people
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  Speaker 1: just learn something. Please, for the love of fuck's sake,
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  Speaker 1: learn something.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I absolutely agree. Well, yeah, like it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you're always welcome over here.
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  Speaker 2: You don't even need to really ask. Just be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what you got going on next week? I'm going to
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: come on with this. Be like, all right, you're on.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: Like that's a good, completely open door over here. But Jacob,
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  Speaker 2: I think we need some fucking knife hands, bro.
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  Speaker 3: I was actually going to avoid those because of the
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  Speaker 3: mic situation. I don't know how I sound. Once again,
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  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen, I apologize. This will be fixed before
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  Speaker 3: our next shooting. But if you haven't already gone and
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: done so, please, at this time, hit the five stars,
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  Speaker 3: hit the share, the like, subscribe, the comment, leave a post,
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• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: and loved ones and everybody in between. Here's the deal.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: And also do the same for our girl Julia here
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 3: with the Cause and Peace podcast. Here's the deal. The
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  Speaker 3: more activity that the algorithms see across all of our
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  Speaker 3: listeners who can then become potential cult members like the
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  Speaker 3: rest of you finally, ladies and gentlemen. We thank you
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  Speaker 3: for everybody who's already gone and done so. And please,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 3: if you haven't, do it. Help out our friend Cause
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  Speaker 3: and Peach. Help us out. Do it at this time.
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  Speaker 4: Yes. It's a wonderful conspiracy community that we've created and
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: that has been woven over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: And, um, it's just awesome. The, the people that you
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: meet along the way, it's like, I love it. Like these,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: these are my people. Like whenever I have the, whenever
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: we have these shows, I'm like, uh, I'm home, you know,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 2: like I'm home, you know? Um, but anyhow, with.
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  Speaker 4: That being said, this was another beautiful episode of the
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: cult of conspiracy. And my name is Jonathan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Jacob.
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  Speaker 4: And there's one very.
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  Speaker 2: Important, extremely vital piece of information we need to learn
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  Speaker 2: just as soon as humanly possible.
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  Speaker 4: Open up that third eye.