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Steve Price | 14 February · Steve Price

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  Speaker 1: This is Steve Price. Welcome to Friday Nights.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Price with you And, as is the norm these days,
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  Speaker 2: what a week it has been in local and global news.
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  Speaker 2: Shocking new levels of anti Semitism from a hateful and
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  Speaker 2: bizarre social media interaction between an Israeli influencer and two
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  Speaker 2: Bankstown hospital nurses. Will catch up with all the latest
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  Speaker 2: developments on.
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  Speaker 1: That through the night.
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  Speaker 2: Also, on the seventeenth anniversary of Kevin Rudd's Closing the
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  Speaker 2: Gap speech just this week, we see in stark reality
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  Speaker 2: how that has not happened. Sadly, with horrific domestic violent
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  Speaker 2: statistics out of the Northern Territory and education numbers among
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  Speaker 2: Indigenous children still appalling, we catch up with the very
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  Speaker 2: impressive Senator just Center Namper Hiper Price shall be first
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. Plus a mystery that has haunted me.
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  Speaker 1: My whole life. As an eleven year old.
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  Speaker 2: Three young children disappeared from my local beach in Adelaide
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  Speaker 2: Lunel and sixty years later there's been no trace of
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  Speaker 2: the three Beaumont kids. Local politician and an old mate
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  Speaker 2: of mine, Frank Pangello, is pushing for a fresh dig
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  Speaker 2: at a local factory looking into their remains.
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  Speaker 1: We'll look at that later, so to send.
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  Speaker 2: Her in a moment, but first look, this is every
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  Speaker 2: politician's nightmare and it had happened today on a beach
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  Speaker 2: south of Sydney. The Prime Minister Anthony Albanize he was
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  Speaker 2: in Woollongong this morning with his team, thinking it would
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  Speaker 2: be a good idea to promote a local candidate for
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  Speaker 2: the upcoming election in a steel town. It had been
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  Speaker 2: a week where the Prime Minister had talked steel with
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  Speaker 2: the US President Donald Trump. But the Steel Town media
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  Speaker 2: opportunity went south very quickly. Apparently none of the highly
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  Speaker 2: paid advisors in the Prime Minister's office understood the local
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  Speaker 2: anger over proposed offshore wind turbines that are planned for
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  Speaker 2: the offshore sea around Woollongong. And when locals out walking
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  Speaker 2: their dogs realized why the media were on the beach,
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  Speaker 2: they turned, why don't we put them out front of
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  Speaker 2: your plate.
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  Speaker 3: Coming out?
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  Speaker 4: We don't want you, You don't want him off your poperty,
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  Speaker 4: Get out of you, Get out of.
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  Speaker 5: Turbines are made of steel, by the way, and we
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  Speaker 5: want them to be made with Ilaware steel and domestic
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  Speaker 5: manufacturing as well.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Suddenly they're not made a will and gong steel at all.
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  Speaker 2: Most of it comes from China. But it got worse,
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  Speaker 2: and of course we all remembered the last time this
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  Speaker 2: happened to a sitting Prime minister. I'll take you back
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  Speaker 2: to twenty twenty. It was January, a red hot Australian summer,
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  Speaker 2: and Scott Morrison would hurriedly have to dash back from
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  Speaker 2: a secret of wine holiday as the East coast of
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  Speaker 2: Australia burned.
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  Speaker 5: How are you I'm only shaking your hand if you
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  Speaker 5: give more funding to our RSS.
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  Speaker 6: So many people I've lost that home.
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  Speaker 4: You had four trucks to defend own town because our
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  Speaker 4: town doesn't have a lot of money, but we have
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  Speaker 4: hearts of gold.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Prime Minister, any boats down, anybody.
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  Speaker 5: Well level is no no let out.
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  Speaker 3: Done, you are out.
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  Speaker 2: Scott Morrison never really recovered from that. And look the
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  Speaker 2: I don't hold a hose comment that he later made
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  Speaker 2: on two GB made the whole thing worse. Look, today's
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  Speaker 2: incident would be sending shivers through the Labor election campaign planners.
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  Speaker 2: They're all in an office already getting getting working out
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  Speaker 2: where they're going to send a PM. How are they
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  Speaker 2: going to plot where he goes on an electoral map,
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  Speaker 2: just where they can't send the Prime minister will be
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  Speaker 2: their discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got four weeks of campaigning in the
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  Speaker 2: run up to election day, and thanks to Labour's obsession
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  Speaker 2: with renewable energy projects, and they're eighty two percent target
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  Speaker 2: by twenty thirty, just five years away. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: he'll have to avoid regional books communities who are quite
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  Speaker 2: hot angry. If you think those people are angry, you
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  Speaker 2: get out in the bushes. Peter Creblin showed you they're
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  Speaker 2: angry not just about wind turbines, but thousands of hectares
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  Speaker 2: of solar panels on productive farming land, and the ramming
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  Speaker 2: through farms of state forests and national parks of thousands
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  Speaker 2: and thousands of kilometers of transmission towers. It leaves safe
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  Speaker 2: Labour seats for Anthony Albanzi only in capital cities. Trying
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  Speaker 2: to urge Sander wearing Green voters to vote Labor, I
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  Speaker 2: suggest you'll be going to places like Newtown in Sydney
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  Speaker 2: and Fitzroy and Melbourne. I'll talk to one of those
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  Speaker 2: protesters who gave it to the Prime Minister shortly Friday
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  Speaker 2: Night's steave price with you. Well, if we ever needed
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  Speaker 2: proof that words are cheap. This week marks as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 2: the seventeenth anniversary of that self inflated ego, Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 2: standing up at a seminar in Canberra with a speech
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  Speaker 2: grandly titled Apology to Indigenous Australians. That's the title of
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  Speaker 2: the speech. It was made at something called the Indigenous
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  Speaker 2: Health Equality Summit. And we all know how Kevin Rudd
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  Speaker 2: loved a summit as usual, it was all words with
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  Speaker 2: little action. Among others other things, Kevin Rudd promised a
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  Speaker 2: long term plan of action. He committed to addressing indigenous
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  Speaker 2: health needs, closing the gap in life expectancy, education, employment,
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  Speaker 2: and then this promise a commitment to achieve equality in
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  Speaker 2: health and life expectancy by twenty thirty. It was his
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  Speaker 2: no child will ever live in poverty moment. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was a salad bowl of broken promises. Just this week,
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  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory Government Chief Minister Leah Finocchiaro admitted domestic
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  Speaker 2: violence assaults had surged by eighty two percent in the
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  Speaker 2: last eight years under the previous labor government in the territory.
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  Speaker 2: Her government has now had to commit thirty six million
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  Speaker 2: to reduce family and domestic violence, so throwing money at
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  Speaker 2: the problem again. Joining me now is the Shadow Minister
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  Speaker 2: for Indigenous Australians and also Government Efficiency, Senator just Center
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  Speaker 2: Nampa jimper Price. Seventeen years on Senator Closing the Gap.
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  Speaker 2: How's it going.
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  Speaker 7: Well? As we come to learn every year since the
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  Speaker 7: Closing the Gap initiative was first initiated, that the situation
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  Speaker 7: isn't getting any better. And the problem is that we
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  Speaker 7: keep taking a blanket approach to Indigenous issues and suggesting
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  Speaker 7: that all Indigenous Australians are somehow disadvantaged because of racial heritage,
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  Speaker 7: instead of focusing on who our marginalized Indigenous Australians are
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  Speaker 7: and prioritizing their needs before everybody else. You know, we
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  Speaker 7: know that there's a growing middle class Indigenous Australia that
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  Speaker 7: are doing really well for ourselves. We need to make
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  Speaker 7: sure that we're focusing on who are marginalized.
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  Speaker 2: Are Domestic violence in the territory up by eighty two percent,
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  Speaker 2: that was the figure that we got this week over
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  Speaker 2: ten years. I mean, how is that possible?
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  Speaker 7: Look, I mean we've had just a really terrible time
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  Speaker 7: under the former labor government here in the Northern territory,
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  Speaker 7: especially when Albanizi came to power and they lifted the
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  Speaker 7: alcohol restrictions, which we knew. You you didn't need a
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  Speaker 7: crystal ball to understand that that was going to absolutely
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  Speaker 7: create chaos, which it did. But they haven't had a
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  Speaker 7: clue crime. You know, DV increased on their watch and
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  Speaker 7: now the Finocchiaro government having to deal with that and
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  Speaker 7: clean up that mess. You know, I'm ployees that they
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  Speaker 7: have been able to introduce better bail laws so that
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  Speaker 7: they've taken off the streets, you know, offenders off our
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  Speaker 7: streets in great numbers, which we hope will support go
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  Speaker 7: to war protecting our vulnerable. But you know they've had
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  Speaker 7: to invest morellions of dollars into the issue of DV
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  Speaker 7: as well. There's so much that needs to be done
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  Speaker 7: in this space and a lot of work going forward.
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  Speaker 2: You got confidence that that eighty six million dollars is
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  Speaker 2: going to be spent in the right place and it's
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  Speaker 2: being managed by the right people.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I think the Finocchio government is going to look
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  Speaker 7: at this with a fine tooth comb. I mean they've
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  Speaker 7: already called for an audit of federal expenditure which we
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  Speaker 7: have committed to if we win government at the next
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  Speaker 7: federal election, and which I have said I would do
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  Speaker 7: within my portfolio of Indigenous for Indigenous Australians. But things
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  Speaker 7: like taking care of women through the Central Australian Women's
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  Speaker 7: Legal Service. Women's legal services don't get funded to the
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  Speaker 7: same tune as Indigenous identified legal services do, so we
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  Speaker 7: need to actually start looking at the services that do
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  Speaker 7: provide outcomes to make sure that they are actually funded
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  Speaker 7: appropriately to continue to produce those outcomes that we might
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  Speaker 7: see aren't happening elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: If the Coalition wins government at the election, your portfolio
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  Speaker 2: includes Indigenous Australia. We talk here about the history and
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  Speaker 2: we talk about seventeen years ago. After Rudd, we've had
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  Speaker 2: Tony Abbott, Malcolm Turnbull, Scott Morrison, we've now got Anthony
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  Speaker 2: Alban Easy. All of those administrations seem to just be
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  Speaker 2: repeating the mistakes that the administration made before them. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: no one seems to understand that doing the same thing
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  Speaker 2: over and over again that doesn't work is not very sensible.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have a plan in your head of how
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  Speaker 2: you're going to suggest to to Peter Dutton and the Cabinet,
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  Speaker 2: how you can do it differently.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, look, absolutely, it's going to be so important. As
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  Speaker 7: I said, we've committed to an audit of the funds
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  Speaker 7: that go into what has become the Aboriginal industry to
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  Speaker 7: understand whether failures exist. This notion of separatism that's really
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  Speaker 7: embedded itself into trying to fix the situation hasn't worked,
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  Speaker 7: So we can't keep going down that particular road, but
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  Speaker 7: we want to understand where the outcomes are being delivered
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  Speaker 7: so that we can continue to support in those areas.
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  Speaker 7: More importantly, as I said when the Closing the Gap framework,
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  Speaker 7: that needs reform as well, so that we're not just
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  Speaker 7: blanketing taking a blanket approach, but actually really being laser
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  Speaker 7: focused as to where we should be ensuring our most
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  Speaker 7: marginalized are the focus in supporting their lives and economic development.
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  Speaker 7: Economic independence, steering away from welfare dependency is going to
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  Speaker 7: be a key part of our platform if we win government,
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  Speaker 7: particularly knowing that our most marginalized exists in remote communities
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  Speaker 7: in the Northern Territory where communal land ownership hasn't helped
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  Speaker 7: and where these large bureaucratic land councils. Despite the fact
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  Speaker 7: that they've had millions of dollars go through them, they
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  Speaker 7: haven't been able to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians either.
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  Speaker 7: They're just as responsible as the government is for pouring
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  Speaker 7: money into these various different organizations. We need a complete rethink.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to see you in that portfolio. Sky's Matt Cunningham,
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  Speaker 2: who I've got great regard for.
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  Speaker 1: I know you do too.
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  Speaker 2: He's uncovered some worrying statistics this week about the attendance
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  Speaker 2: rate of Indigenous students in schools in the territory. It
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  Speaker 2: just is not working. Official role attendance for Indigenous students
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  Speaker 2: just over fifty percent. I mean, that is just so troubling.
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  Speaker 2: Do you also have a plan to work out how
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  Speaker 2: we can get these students as young kids often come
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  Speaker 2: from dysfunctional families to go to school.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, look absolutely, And you know Prime Minister Albaneze completely
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  Speaker 7: has the ball on this. He was focused on the
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  Speaker 7: Voice d during his term and unfortunately the situation has
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  Speaker 7: got worse for kids, particularly remote communities. But I'll be
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  Speaker 7: working with the Finocchiera government to support them, especially since
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  Speaker 7: and they've also decided to introduce truancy fines as well
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  Speaker 7: and take a you know, make sure that parents are
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  Speaker 7: taking responsibility for sending their kids to school, but will
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  Speaker 7: be investing in remote boarding significantly to ensure that these
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  Speaker 7: kids get the best possible opportunity, which is something that
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  Speaker 7: the Albanese government has completely and utterly neglected and brought
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  Speaker 7: an end to. So we'll be making sure that that
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  Speaker 7: is a priority going forward, because education leads to empowerment,
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  Speaker 7: freedom of choice, and that's what these kids are missing
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  Speaker 7: out on.
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  Speaker 2: Just finally, I read your the Australian Weekend magazine profile
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  Speaker 2: of you last weekend and a preview of your book
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  Speaker 2: Matters of the Heart. It's an outstanding read and you
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  Speaker 2: should be very pre out of that book, and I
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  Speaker 2: hope people go out and buy it because it's an
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  Speaker 2: extraordinary story and you're an amazing woman. Thank you very
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  Speaker 2: much for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Steve So Senator, just.
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  Speaker 2: Sent a nampagin for PRIs. I mean, she is extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: and you know, if the Collition does win government, one
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  Speaker 2: thing they need to do in their first term in
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  Speaker 2: my view, is find her a lower House seat and
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  Speaker 2: so one day she can be a potential Australian Prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back speaking at Prime ministers to those wind
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  Speaker 2: farm protests in Willagong today. Joining me now is the
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  Speaker 2: face of what we saw this morning, or one of them,
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  Speaker 2: the President of the Responsible Future of Illawarra, Alex O'Brien. Alex,
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  Speaker 2: great to see you. There's a lot of anger down there.
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  Speaker 2: I made the point the Prime Minister's office didn't really
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  Speaker 2: think too hard about where to send him this morning,
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  Speaker 2: did they.
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  Speaker 1: No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 3: And I think what you saw today was visibly the
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  Speaker 3: frustration of the community in regards to this issue, but
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  Speaker 3: clearly many other issues. There are many passive eyes as
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  Speaker 3: well that were not part of our group that were
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  Speaker 3: also walking past and letting our Prime minister to know
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  Speaker 3: how they felt.
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  Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the community years does not want these turbines
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  Speaker 2: in the spot where they're going to be. They've already
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  Speaker 2: canceled the government a project that was due to be
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  Speaker 2: built off the central coast. Give us an update on
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  Speaker 2: how your group's going and your confidence that you can
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  Speaker 2: get this stopped.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look, see, just they haven't canceled the project yet off
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  Speaker 3: the central coast, so have been a number of developers though,
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  Speaker 3: that are pulling away, and they're citing what we've been
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  Speaker 3: talking about for a year now, which is these are
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  Speaker 3: very expensive. The business case doesn't stack up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's bad for the environments, technically difficult as well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to do floating offshore wind off the coast of New
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  Speaker 3: South Wales given the depths of the water, especially in
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  Speaker 3: the Ala it's two hundred and eight hundred meters deep
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  Speaker 3: and only twenty five floating turbines off around the world,
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  Speaker 3: and the Minister Bowen wants to put six hundred of
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  Speaker 3: these just off New South Wales.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, look, you know our.
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  Speaker 3: Community is strongly against this and again you know, sixty
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  Speaker 3: five percent of the community you know, have posed this.
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  Speaker 3: Developers are pulling out, so it's time for the Labor
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  Speaker 3: government to admit that the projects are failing and just
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  Speaker 3: to scrap them. There's no point continuing to upset the
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  Speaker 3: community who love that coastline, who love the environment. And
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  Speaker 3: there's also local job steve, you know, and tourism in
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  Speaker 3: our commercial fishing that are really at risk if this
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  Speaker 3: development goes ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Alex you must have laughed when the Prime Minister gas
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  Speaker 2: lit Year today and said, oh, you know these things
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  Speaker 2: are made out of steel.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.
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  Speaker 2: I had a look, there's a very tiny amount of
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  Speaker 2: Australian steel going into these turbines. Most of it's coming
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  Speaker 2: from China. So I mean, fancy trying to pull that
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  Speaker 2: one on you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And look, we know a lot more about this project
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  Speaker 3: than probably the Prime Minister does, because the reality is
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  Speaker 3: after the consultation weeks after, Bluescope indicated that they cannot
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  Speaker 3: build these wind turbines at Port Kembler, and only a
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  Speaker 3: few short moments after that, the government, in agreement with China,
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  Speaker 3: relaxed the anti dumping laws which allowed more Chinese turbines
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  Speaker 3: to flood the Australian market. So the unions are upset
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  Speaker 3: about this. They're saying if there's no Illawarra steel, there's
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  Speaker 3: no deal. But it's clearly the Prime Minister does not
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  Speaker 3: understand the detail of this project because there isn't going
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  Speaker 3: to be a lot of steel from the Elora going
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  Speaker 3: into these turbines.
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  Speaker 2: Alex will keep in touch. Good luck with your campaign.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was brilliant what you did today. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: a lot, Alex O'Brien, their president of the Responsible Future Ilwara,
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  Speaker 2: and that's going to haunt the Prime Minister right around
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  Speaker 2: the country. Just before we go to a break, Victoria
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  Speaker 2: Police members, this is an extraordinary vote today in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: They've overwhelmingly passed a no confidence vote against the Victorian
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  Speaker 2: Police Chief, Shane pattern Now the background brief you of
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  Speaker 2: that is that they've been tried to negotiate a pay
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  Speaker 2: deal now for.
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  Speaker 1: More than two years.
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  Speaker 2: More than fourteen thousand, five hundred police officers in the
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  Speaker 2: state of Victoria have a listen to this number voted
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  Speaker 2: in the poll, eighty seven point one three percent of
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  Speaker 2: those police say they have no confidence in their police chief.
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  Speaker 2: Now he was the president of the Police Association of
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  Speaker 2: Victoria Shawtamaga.
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  Speaker 8: It has only come about after significant consideration and concerns
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  Speaker 8: raised to our representatives over a significant period of time
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  Speaker 8: about a force that's in decline, about a force that
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  Speaker 8: is struggling to meet its basic obligations to provide services
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  Speaker 8: to the community.
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  Speaker 2: I should point out that there was speculation last week
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  Speaker 2: the Victorian Premier to Cinder Allen was going to sign
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  Speaker 2: another iyear extension of Shane Patten's contract.
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  Speaker 1: Good luck, we're doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Now now after the break, we'll examine the misinformation being
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  Speaker 2: thrown around about the Coalition's tax breaks for small business Boy,
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  Speaker 2: did that annoy me in Parliament this week, Plus calls
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  Speaker 2: for councils to focus on local issues like roads and rubbish.
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  Speaker 2: Ratepayers are being slugged thousands for bureaucrats to go and
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  Speaker 2: travel overseas. Welcome back to de Price with you round
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  Speaker 2: Dean coming up at the top of the hour.
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I watched a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of question Time this week, and what really annoyed me
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  Speaker 2: was the Labor Party going on the attack, bagging the
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  Speaker 2: Coalition's plan to provide small businesses with tax breaks for
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  Speaker 2: work related.
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  Speaker 1: Entertainment and meals. Now, they just made this stuff up.
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  Speaker 2: And I spoke to a guy who works in my
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  Speaker 2: local coffee shop this week who used to run restaurants,
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  Speaker 2: and he told me that this would be the boon
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  Speaker 2: that the hospitality industry actually needs. But have listened to
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  Speaker 2: how Labor tries to portray it as rich, wealthy bosses
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  Speaker 2: taking people out to drink lobsters, eat lobsters and drink
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  Speaker 2: fine wine.
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  Speaker 1: It was pathetic.
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  Speaker 5: We're delivering on the cost of living. They only care
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  Speaker 5: about their mate's cost of lunching.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: They said they're opposed to cutting student debt by twenty percent,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: and I promise you I'm not making this up.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Their argument for opposing it is this quote.
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: There are no free lunches in economics.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Well it turns out there is, but only for the bosses.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: After watching that rubbish all week, I thought I had
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: to get back the Australian Restaurant and Catering Association CEO.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Where's Lambert? We talked to him a couple of weeks ago.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Where's Can we not have an honest conversation about this?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: You must be so frustrated.
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: Before I go into that, I'd like to wish my
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: darling life Sophia, happy Valentine's Day. But I am frustrated.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: I'm super frustrated at the labor's lack of any small
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: business experience. I've been in and out of restaurants and
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: cafes since the announcement was made, and there's not a
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: single restaurant, cafe or small business that I can find
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: in all of Australia that doesn't like this potential FBT policy.
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: So look, last time I checked, two and a half
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: million small businesses are run by mom and pops. They
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: are not run by big bosses. We're thinking that maybe
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: labor is confusing those two and a half million small
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: businesses with a few thousand big public companies where there
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: may be big bosses.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Well as you and I both know, though Whiz, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: mean those big companies. So you know, we can talk
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: the big banks, the big accounting firms KPMGEN, Common Bank.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: If they're going to entertain people, they can do it
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: in their boardroom. They can cater in house. Many of
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: them have got you know, in house restaurants in their
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: actual offices, and I can claim that as a text deduction.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: So this infantile disinformation where they try and portray it
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: as you know, people sitting around in the Melbourne Club
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: smoking cigars and paying for the boss's lunch.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: It's just pathetic.
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: Well, it seems that labor's just not listening. They're not
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: listening to Credit or Watch that's now saying one in
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: six hospitality businesses are at risk of closure in twenty
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: twenty five. They're not listening to their own abs that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: telling them that the hospitality industry has been flat since
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: the beginning of twenty twenty three. They're not listening to
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: the ABS that's telling them that tourism is flat and
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: down from twenty nineteen. They're not listening to the two
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: and a half million small businesses around Australia that are
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: applauding this potential policy. And they're certainly not listening to
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: the hospitality industry who all want this potential policy to happen.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Ex's flying in simple terms for us with how it
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: would work in practice, two and.
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: A half million small businesses around Australia that do less
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: than ten million dollars a year will finally be able
• 22:13
  Speaker 9: to take their employees out to reward them for a
• 22:17
  Speaker 9: job well done. They'll be able to take their potential
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: clients out for a lunch or a dinner to win
• 22:24
  Speaker 9: that new business, to maybe become a medium sized business,
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: something that hasn't ever been able to be done. Maybe
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: they'll be able to compete with the big businesses that
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: the Labor government is talking about. But for now, it
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: allows those businesses to be able to have those meals
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: in entertainment and they'll be deductible much like big businesses
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: cafeterias and canteens and catering, and they will not be
• 22:50
  Speaker 9: subject to any FBT penalty, which means for the first time,
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: you don't get slugged with a penalty tax for rewarding
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: your employees, for ward awarding your customers and for trying
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: to win new business. And ultimately this is for the
• 23:06
  Speaker 9: tens of thousands of tradees out there that are all
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: small businesses. To take their crews out after a job
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: well done.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to a pub for a palmer. We're not talking
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: about going to Florentino, are we.
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: No, No, we're not talking about that at all. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: to confuse this with big business or to confuse this
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: with a long lunch, it's just really turned out from
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: the labor government.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, we'll catch up again soon. Let's see
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: where that goes during the election campaign. Now this week
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to Harold Sun reported that the City of Melbourne staff
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: on the City of Melbourne had spent one hundred and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: seventeen thousand dollars last year traveling into state and overseas.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: They went to destinations like Europe and North America and Asia.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: All the wil Melbourne is sinking into a black hole.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: They can't even get off graffiti off a wall. Now
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the waste comes as a number of New South Wales councils.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: And that's why mentioned in this based in Sydney, we're
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: jacking rates up by anything from forty to one hundred percent.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That was the City of Sydney, plus you had North
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Sydney and the Northern Beaches. Now I as a ratepayer
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: in Victoria myself, I'm actually holding my breath that those
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: councils in Victoria don't decide, Oh, that's a good idea.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Maybe we might be able to get away with this
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: daylight robbery. Joining me now as Council Watch Director Dean Hurston,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: good to catch up with you again out in local
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: councils possibly justify the kind of spending that you've discovered
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: on overseas travel.
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: They can't see they're in fantasy land. And I would
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: say to all council CEOs who think that it's appropriate
• 24:43
  Speaker 10: to spend rate payers money traveling overseas and interstate you
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: know we're seeing, as you said, Europe, USA, Japan. If
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: you think that's appropriate, you don't belong as a council CEO.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: You don't deserve the four five, six hundred thousand dollars
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: salary you're being paid. You can pay for your own
• 25:01
  Speaker 10: trips if you think it's that important.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And these conferences are not conferences that are going to
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: suddenly imbue these counselors with wonderful knowledge where they can
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: come back and perhaps save money or make the life
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of the people who they're representing on council better and
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: things will be all bright, the roads will get fixed,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: and the graffiti will disappear. That's not what's happening here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 10: No, what we're seeing is indigenous music conferences, climate change, sustainability,
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: you know, the vibe, economic development, all these sorts of
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: things that are pie in the sky, whilst we have
• 25:40
  Speaker 10: you know, record levels of dirty streets, crime, potholes, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: you know, a lack of service. I mean, local councils
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: are at a thirty year low when it comes to
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: community satisfaction around what they're delivering. And here we are
• 25:54
  Speaker 10: jetting off overseas to learn how to do completely random,
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: unrelated things better. But really the remit of our federal
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: or state governments and have got nothing to do with
• 26:04
  Speaker 10: local councils. You know, when we think seve about local
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: council the word local is the most important thing that
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: means in our suburb, in our neighborhood. This jetting off
• 26:13
  Speaker 10: overseas should be banned. I'm calling on every Victorian councilor
• 26:18
  Speaker 10: and the local government minister to ban international travel for
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: anyone associated with a local council.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: And they won't, of course, but they should.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: D you a little like me, you're a little worried
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: that some of these councilors sitting around looking at New
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: South Wales and looking at what the City of Sydney,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: North Sydney and Northern Beaches have done, jacking rates up
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: by massive amounts of money, and someone down here has gone, gee,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that's not a bad idea.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: Look, certainly we've seen some enormous raises going on in Sydney,
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: you know, up to eighty to ninety forty seventy others,
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: and that's all really on the back of sheer financial mismanagement.
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: I don't know how some of these counts and executives
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: can show their face in public given the damage they've
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: done financially and then say, oh, the ratepayers are being
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: mean to us. What we're seeing in Victoria is the
• 27:10
  Speaker 10: same we're seeing on the back of a parliamentary inquiry here.
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: All the councils are whining their backsides off that they
• 27:17
  Speaker 10: need to add, you know, ten twenty thirty percent to
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: rates or they're not going to be financially sustainable.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, let's.
• 27:23
  Speaker 10: Cut the junkerds, the morning teas and the garbage that
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: you're actually wasting our money on, fix the potholes, fix
• 27:30
  Speaker 10: the street cleanliness, and then maybe we'll let you do
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: something else.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Just before you go, our old mates. At Marybeck City Council,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: they voted down a motion which called for the Palestinian
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: flag to be flown from the Coburg Town Hall until
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: there's a permanent ceasefire in the Middle East. What do
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: these jokers seek they're doing.
• 27:53
  Speaker 10: Look, thank god the mayor used her casting vote to
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: show some common sense and say this isn't a appropriate
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: But Steve, this is the same council in the same
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: meeting that voted down to fly the international peace flag
• 28:07
  Speaker 10: because it was offensive that it wasn't specific to the
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: Palestinian genocide. I mean, you know, I'd much rather Steve
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: seeing a Steve Price flag flying because that would make
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: more sense to me.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: But what about the ratepayers. They don't want this garbage.
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: We know that over eighty ninety percent of our ratepayers
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: don't want flags other than the Australian flag flying, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 10: that's what town Hall needs to get through their thick
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: bureaucratic skull.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Thousand percent Din as usual. Great to catch up with you,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Thanks a lot. Now Coming up after the break, the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: stories of the Week in Cartoons with our favorite cartoonists
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: from the Herald Son Mark Knight, plus the latest development
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: in a story that's intrigued me my whole life. One
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: of the nation's greatest unsolved mysteries, the disappearance of the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: three Beaumont children. Welcome back to Price with you, Mark Knight,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: our favorite cartoonists Coming up now. This next story is
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: very personal for me, the fate of the three Adelaide
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Beaumont children who went missing from Adelaide's Glenelg Beach. It
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: happened in nineteen sixty six. Now, I was eleven years
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: old then and used to go to this beach on
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: a regular basis, and trust me, nineteen sixty six was
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: very different to today. Lots of kids of that age ten, eleven,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: twelve would go to the beach on their own without
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: their parents. It remains one of Australia's not just South
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Australia's greatest unsolved mysteries, and it comes up every now
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and then that there's going to be a new search
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: for remains, now that there are new hopes that a
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: dig later this month could uncover some of those answers
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that everyone's hoping for. The former Castle Lloyd factory. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: think this is in Brighton, a suburb of Adelaide, said
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: to be excavated for the third and likely the final time.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: This will start on Feb twenty two, before that land
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: has then sold off to developers. It's part of a
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: seven network investigation as I understand it. Joining me now
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: is my old mate, and we are now both old,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: having started work together way back in nineteen seventy two
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: at the Adelaid Years is Independent South Australian MP Frank Pangelo,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: who has organized this dig. Great to see you again,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: my friend. How how have you got to get back
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: involved with this free pricing?
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: Well, look, I've been fascinated with this case ever since
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: we were journalists together back in the nineteen seventies.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Seed.
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: It's Australia's greatest unsolved crime, I believe, and probably Australia's
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: greatest tragedy. Just think about it three children are sent
• 30:39
  Speaker 11: to the beach by their parents innocently and then disappearing,
• 30:43
  Speaker 11: and the anks, the heartbreak and everything that caused not
• 30:46
  Speaker 11: only to that family but also to Australian society. It
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: actually changed our attitudes towards children. No longer would parents
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: send their kids on their own two events to the beach,
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: to the show or whatever. That's the impact that it
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: did have. And look, so many theories have come up
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: over the years, so many suspects over the years, and
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: they all led to nothing. And I think this is
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: one opportunity perhaps to rule out the best suspect in
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: my view, that has come forward in all the years
• 31:29
  Speaker 11: I've been covering this case.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Why that factory in that part of Adelaide, Well, look.
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: It started out with a book called The Satin Man
• 31:41
  Speaker 11: that was written by Stuart Mullins, with investigations carried out
• 31:45
  Speaker 11: by mister Mullins and also a former Adelaide major crime
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: detective Bill Hayes, and they pieced together intricately a lot
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: of circumstantial evidence pointing to the owner of that business,
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: a very wealthy and industrialist called Harry Phipps. Now mister
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: Phipps had a dark past he's now deceased, but he
• 32:07
  Speaker 11: also had strained sexual fetishes and was also accused of
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: being a pedophile. And these two citizen detectives Bills now retired,
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: were able to piece together this jig saw of circumstantial
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: evidence that points to mister Phipps. But what made it
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: even more compelling, Steve, was after I had done a
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: story on Today Tonight many years ago, I received a
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: call from one brother who recalled going into the Castelloyd's
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: site three days after the children had disappeared, and they
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: dug a grave sized hole. They didn't know what it
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: was for, but they were overseen by Harry Phipps. Throughout
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: that period, there was no one else on the site
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: and it didn't occur to them until decades later where
• 32:55
  Speaker 11: they put a connection between Phipps, that hole they dug
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: and the factory. So that's what led us there, and
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: they quite quitterble, and the police believed them. There was
• 33:06
  Speaker 11: a dig in twenty eighteen believe to be on that
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: site that was pinpointed by those two brothers. But now
• 33:13
  Speaker 11: there's actually a new information that could suggest that it
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: may not only have not been that site, it could
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: have been alongside but also they didn't go deep enough.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Well that's the point, isn't it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: There's some theory now that they didn't actually dig that
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: on that did go deep enough, and so they might
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: do that again. Now do you have will they have
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: some sort of specialized equipment that means that they can
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: work out if there's anything there or do they have
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to complete a full dig?
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yep.
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: Well, look what's going to happen. And this is a
• 33:49
  Speaker 11: private dig which I've organized, and you know the impromiter
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: of the police, they werek for a private dig to
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: take place, So I've engaged a private earth mover and
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: also two eminent forensic archaeologists and the dig will be
• 34:06
  Speaker 11: led by Professor Marchie Hennenburg from Adelaide University who will
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: conduct a very extensive and intensive forensic search of the site.
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: Professor Hennenberg is an expert in finding and locating missing
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: people and graves and he'll be overseeing all that and
• 34:29
  Speaker 11: we will be looking at three sites. Initially it was
• 34:32
  Speaker 11: only going to be two that the police had already
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: looked at, but the South Australian Government, thanks to them
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: renewal LESA, they've also identified now a third site which
• 34:42
  Speaker 11: actually might be the site where those two boys had
• 34:46
  Speaker 11: dug in nineteen sixty six, So that's going to be
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: unearthed as well. And look, it's going to go over
• 34:52
  Speaker 11: a week. It starts on February the twenty second, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: there's already enormous Interestive. I can tell you that my
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: phone emails at work, my inbox is just full. I've
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: had phone calls and nine.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: As you would know.
• 35:06
  Speaker 11: You know from our days as journalists when we ever
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: covered this case, you'd always get calls and people coming
• 35:12
  Speaker 11: in with their theories. Ninety nine percent of them you dismiss,
• 35:16
  Speaker 11: but occasionally you get a gem. Will let me tell
• 35:18
  Speaker 11: you that this week I got a gym. Yes, and
• 35:20
  Speaker 11: it really threw me when I heard this information.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Fantastic. Frank will keep an eye on that. And next
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: time in Adelaie, we've got to catch up my friend.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: It's really good to see you and sit looking in
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: very freaking.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you. Steve. Frank Bangalo there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Who's now in the South Australian Parliament, will keep an
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: eye on that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Martin.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: It's our favorite cartoonist. He's back in full form in
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the paper. He joins us tonight on the programs he
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: does every couple of weeks.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: You have been on fire this.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Week, my friend, can I ask, though the Bankstown Nurses cartoon,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: how much did you have to think about depicting the
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: cartoon which will show you now?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: How much did you have to think about drawing that one?
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a real tough one, actually, Steve, because
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: a very serious issue and you don't want to make
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: light of it. But I just I think, like a
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: lot of Australians, I thought, how could these two, these
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: two nurses say such a thing, even in jest. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: mean they said it was a joke. And you know,
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: one of them was a refuge from Afghanistan and we
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: gave him shelter, we educated him, gave him a career,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: and he turns around and he says this. So I thought, well,
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: we just don't need people like this.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Let's just put him in the bin.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: And that sort of thought that I had would sort
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: of lead to a medical waste container, a garbage truck,
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: and we just dispose of people like this who just
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: don't respect this country and all the people who live here.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: It's a very powerful piece of cartoon. I must say that.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, Donald Trump's given you a great week. You of course,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: seized upon the great Man saying that that's a really
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: good bit of real estate there in Garza. We you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: we might take that over. So you've drawn him making
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: gars Are great again, which is the version of the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Maga hat.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Let's have a look at.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: The Gaza cartoons, make Garza great again. There's Don and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: his Marga hat, and one of those two guars and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: women saying to each other, well.
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: We talk about the two state solution, and one of
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: them saying is this the two state solution, and the
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: other one is saying, of course no, it's a real
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: estate solution, which is the way Donald work is a
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: property developer, So why wouldn't he build condos and beachside
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: high rises in Gaza. I'm not putting my name down
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: for a condo on the water front there just yet.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: He's going to give you so much joy this year.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: He's also been talking trade wars with his friend Anthony Alberan.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Easy.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: He's been portrayed by you. Are you going to continue
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: with the superman drawing of Donald Trump? Have a look
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: at how Donald Trump appears. This is straight out of,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: of course, that famous war movie where the line was
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I love the small smell of nape arm in the morning.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I look that.
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  Speaker 5: Great scene from Potcalypse now is a classic and I
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: love to use it sparingly. And I thought, you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: this has got to be the right, the right occasion
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  Speaker 5: calling in a and it was like a strategic napalm
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  Speaker 5: drop on Mexico and of course Canada. But it worked.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: They recreated and Donald does love the smell of a
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  Speaker 5: trade tariff in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Great work.
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  Speaker 2: And you had some fabulous other cartoons, mate. We'll see
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: you in a couple of weeks time. Make sure you look
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  Speaker 2: out from K Knight's cartooning in the paper tomorrow ptic
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: on my column in the Saturday Herald Sun, which I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: always very happy that Mark does for me.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Now, after the.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Break revelations that your ABC is costing you the taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: more than a Netflix subscription every year, as viewer numbers
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and radio listener numbers absolutely plummet. Plus we'll get my
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: panel's reaction to that no confidence vote in the Victorian
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Police Chief. Welcome Back Friday Panel Time Small Businesswomen Australia
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: CEO Amanda Rose and Sky News contributor Joe Hildebrand. Amanda,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I'm almost reluctant to bring up this story about the
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: ABC one point one billion dollar budget audiences disappearing. The
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: reason I'm reluctant to bring it up, Joe just smells
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: a little to me like a closet ABC TV viewer
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and watcher. Despite all of his commercial success, what do
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you think.
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  Speaker 12: Look, I don't blame him for some shows, and look,
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: with the ABC, what I don't like is it's either
• 39:59
  Speaker 12: funded or funded. I'd like to see a compromise. There
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: are some horrific shows on there and obvious journalists that
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: are just so skewed and they're blinded by their agendas
• 40:09
  Speaker 12: and so forth. And this is a publicly funded broadcaster, right,
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: I would like to see an audit and actually have
• 40:15
  Speaker 12: the shows that are proven to be genuine and produce
• 40:19
  Speaker 12: really good content. And let's face it, ABC funds some
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: really good original content, some good investigative work, and I
• 40:25
  Speaker 12: love that, but then the rest ruins it. So it'd
• 40:28
  Speaker 12: be really good to see an audit and maybe a
• 40:30
  Speaker 12: poll by the community and actually give the community what
• 40:33
  Speaker 12: they want, because they're the one's funding it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Joe, I went through my mind today to try and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: work out what I do watch on ABC and I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: watch Media Watch in case, you know, I get a slap.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I always enjoyed that on a Monday night. You know,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: we can get on there and you know that makes
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: us feel good. I love some of their Australian drama.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I mean that show Fisk, which is based on the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: the barrister's Lawyer's office in Sydney. That's just hilarious with
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Kitty Flanagan. So that's stuff I really do like. But
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: their bias on news and current affairs and on radio
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: really does annoy me.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well, look, I don't want to trigger you too much, Steve,
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: but I actually not only used to watch ABC TV.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: I appeared on it. I was a host of or
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: presenter or whatever you wanted, two documentary series. But I
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: do actually agree with me exactly what you're saying. I
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: remember coming on Q and A once and a few
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: times before, but this on this occasion, someone had pulled
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: out and it was an American.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: It was an.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: Ultra orthodox Jewish guy from New York, I think, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: they brought me on to fill in from him, and
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: I kind of and I kind of said to him,
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm not sure if this is your idea
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: of balance but he's an ultra conservative Jew from America.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: I'm a labor voting Catholic from Australia. But I think, but,
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: but I think the problem with the A b C
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: Is that in their mind they are trying to get
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: the balance right because I think they culturally not a
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: shut because they but I think because they culturally sit
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: on the left and on that that sort of inner
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: city urbane left. What they think is balanced is very
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: different to what the rest of the country think is balanced.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: And the other problem is that they've got and you
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: wouldn't believe this, but this their audience, their hardcore activist audience.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Is even worse.
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: So these are these feral card carrying Marxists on Twitter
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: who literally think that the ABC is too biased to
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: the right. They actually think that the ABC has got
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: all these that's right. That's why they handed Miller off Twitter.
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: They hounded Les Sales off Twitter because.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Twitter.
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: But the fact that the fact that you think it's
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: just on the left to start with in the ABC
• 42:57
  Speaker 12: is the problem. They should be centralists and if they
• 43:00
  Speaker 12: want to have a left wing show and a right
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: wing show, so be it. But you can't be by
• 43:03
  Speaker 12: default a left wing style program that is supposed to
• 43:07
  Speaker 12: represent the entire country, Amander.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I went on Q and A once and I said
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: to the woman who was on my right that you're
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: being hysterical. Well you would have thought the world had
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: completely collapsed. The audience went. I was bashed up on
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Twitter for a month. Someone from the ABC wanted me
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: to apologize and I had no idea that it was
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: a derogatory term hysterical. And so I've not been invited back. Surprise, surprise, Joe.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: The Victorian Police force is not going all that well.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: The police today, all fourteen thousand of them had a
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: vote whether they have confidence in the Chief Commissioner Shane Patten.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Eighty seven percent.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Of police and I presume these are mostly uniform coppers
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: have said they have no confidence in the police commissioner.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Just last week the Victorian government were going to give
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: him a new five year contract. I mean, seriously, they've
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: got a big problem in that at force.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: I think the Victoria Police have had a big problem
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: and big cultural problems for a long long time. They
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: there there was a big revolt against Christine Nixon, rightly
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: or wrongly a few years ago, and a lot of
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: a lot of well I was going to say a
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: lot of that as legitimate concerns about her response to
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: the bushfires, and she was going out and having a
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: public a pub dinner and a haircut or whatever whatever.
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: A lot of it, though I know from comp types,
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: was because they didn't like the fact that a woman
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: was commissioner, which is passing strange in the People's Republic
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: of Victoria, the most progressive state in Australia. And again
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: there's also been long standing issues as you would not
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: see with the Police Association the Police union down there.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: They've had some some governance issues of their own, I
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: believe in the past and and and they're very bolshy,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: they like to think. I think it's quite different from
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: the Police Association in New South Wales as a lot
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: of eggs are you have really bolshy branches which just
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: are there basically to a certain.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: See there, we'll see where it goes.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: But the government just can't give her another contract, Amanda.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: We can't give up Friday Night with out having a
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: slap at Chris Bowen. Have a look at Chris Bowen,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: who's supposed to be a senior Cabinet minister in question
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: time this week talking about our great friend and highly
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: talent of Peter Kredlin.
• 45:21
  Speaker 13: He subjected himself to an interview with that Pulitz Surprise
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: winning journalist Peter Credlin, and he was asked during that
• 45:29
  Speaker 13: interview about his nuclear policy. And I've got to say,
• 45:32
  Speaker 13: Missus Spaggert, this interview has been compared to the Frost
• 45:35
  Speaker 13: diiction interviews for searching for a searching intellect for the
• 45:40
  Speaker 13: tough questions.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Ray Hadley wasn't available on.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: The evening, Amanda, what a pompous fool he is.
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: Well, I would need to remind people that these are
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: the people running our country and if you don't want
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: someone who thinks mocking people and making fun of them
• 45:56
  Speaker 12: and insulting them during a very important week in parliament,
• 46:00
  Speaker 12: it could be the last sitting week in parliament before
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: the election, they need to vote them out. And this
• 46:05
  Speaker 12: is a classic case of be a respectful regardless of
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: which side of politics you're on, insulting someone simply because
• 46:12
  Speaker 12: you're not winning an argument. And let's face it, they're
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: not winning right now when it comes to the energy
• 46:17
  Speaker 12: discussion because people's electricity bills. Energy bills are so high,
• 46:21
  Speaker 12: regardless of where it's coming from and what type of
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: energy it's high, and they lied and their only response
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: is to actually insult people, and I'm not a fan
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: of that, regardless of who doesn't.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Joe.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: The only good luck for Chris Bowen this week was
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: Peter wasn't on ear that night and I had to
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: fill in for her last night, and if she had been,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I think his ears might be burning, mate.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: You or her Lancelot, her champion Dave. Obviously, I love
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: Peter Kradlin and will not hear a bad but again
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: to But look, if you just imagine that Chris Bowen
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: was not being sarcastic and was being completely sincere, there's
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: no problem.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's bedding.
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: That's poor old Ray.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I reckon if you take it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: He's a tough guy.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I just ask him.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, well, I mean Chris Bowen. Seriously, the blog's
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: putting out social media clips now of him sitting there
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: eating bowls of Chinese soup or something. Saudi Arabia a
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: very strange place to choose to host the twenty thirty
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: four Men's World Cup. Amanda and Joe, you know, I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: wouldn't mind going to a World Cup. But guess what
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: the ambassador to the UK from Saudi said, there won't
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: be any alcohol there. There's no beer, you can't actually
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: have a drink. What does he think that's going to
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: do to the crowd numbers, particularly from places like the UK.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: They're not going to go to a soccer match where
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: you can't have a drink.
• 47:46
  Speaker 12: I actually think no Australian will probably go. But you
• 47:49
  Speaker 12: know what, I'm actually curious to see how they make
• 47:53
  Speaker 12: money because a lot of times with these activities they
• 47:56
  Speaker 12: make extra money essentially from the alcohol consumption. So I
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: think people should look at it and say, okay, yes,
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: government funds pretty much all of it, but the small
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: businesses and the hospitality venues. Maybe Australia can learn a
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: few things that we don't need alcohol to make money.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Karen, she's not in. Wash your mouth
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: out please.
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: I'm just saying, you know, I'm just well, I'm just
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: saying alcohol is not the be all and end all.
• 48:26
  Speaker 12: Either is gambling. I'm going for it. Either is gambling.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Look, if you don't need alcohol, I'm going to go
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: because money.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: If I'm off to the pub, you too, have a
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: great weekend. I'll talk to you next week. Amanda and
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Joe coming up. Of course, the world. According to Rowan Dean,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: don't forget next Tuesday, the Reserve Bank might give us
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: an interest rate cut.