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Work, Freedom & Sisterhood: How We Built Our Dream Lives · Let’s Talk, Sister!

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  Welcome to Let's Talk Sister, about life, the whole damn thing.
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  We're Shel and Krissy. We're sisters, and this is where we talk about life
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  as we've lived it, as we're living it, and sometimes where we're still trying to figure it out.
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  We'll talk about family, relationships, love, loss, grief, joy,
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  work, money, spirituality, sexuality, aging, our bodies, and probably a whole
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  bunch of other stuff we haven't even talked about yet.
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  We don't have all the answers, and we're definitely not going to pretend we do.
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  We're just two sisters having real conversation and inviting you to be part of them.
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  So grab your coffee, your wine, or whatever gets you through the day and come hang out with us.
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  Let's talk, sister, about life, the whole damn thing. The other day,
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  Krissy asked me, what do you actually do, Shel, and how do you do it all?
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  And it made me realize that even as sisters, we're built different when it comes to work.
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  Krissy has worked throughout her life, but she's also had the freedom at different
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  times to choose whether or not she wanted to work.
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  I've built a life where I generally love working, but also I love that I created
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  a career that gives me freedom over my time.
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  I get to travel, I can go to Pilates when I want, I can spend time with my family,
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  and I can work early or late from wherever I happen to be.
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  Neither way is better. They're just different. So we thought let's talk about
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  what work means to each of us.
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  So, sis, what is it that you actually do for a living?
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  Yeah, well, I was in corporate America for 14 years as a HR manager,
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  recruiter, training and development manager, director of a community college
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  continuing education adult learning system.
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  And I was the sickest person I knew.
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  I used all my vacation and I was like, this isn't it for me.
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  So I called Turkey Quit My Job and created a business. I called a friend,
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  Jordan Adler, who's a billionaire. And I said, Jordan, what's your VA do?
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  And he said, why? Why do you need to know this? And I said, well,
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  because I'm thinking about doing this.
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  And he said, write me an email with how you can support people. And I was like,
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  I have no clue. So, but I was good at technology from the military and I wrote
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  this email and within a week I had a full load of clients and all those clients
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  then referred me. So I've never had to hustle for clients.
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  So I'm a virtual assistant. It started with just me.
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  And then I had a team of up to 13 people and we're on year 19 of this business.
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  That's nuts. Yep. And we work in Canada, we work in Costa Rica,
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  and we work in the U.S. That's insane.
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  Like I knew you did VA, but I didn't know it was like that big.
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  Yep. Because I know that you're a perpetual student because you have two master's degrees.
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  One bachelor's and master's. Oh, okay. Well, hey, degrees.
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  Plural. And like 500 certifications. I have no degrees and maybe a handful of
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  certifications. Yep. But that's okay. Yeah.
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  And then just in the last year, that has morphed even more, which I,
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  well, no, four years ago, I decided to become a Tony Robbins coach. Do you remember?
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  And so I became a professional coach. I worked for Tony Robbins and I loved,
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  loved it. However, I didn't want to be a salesperson. I wanted to be a coach. Yeah.
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  So I went out on my own and I'm still coaching clients today.
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  I've got, you know, handfuls of clients.
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  And then I went into project management.
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  I went into operations management, international training and development leader.
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  And then just recently I became a state contractors.
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  So I do nonprofit facilitation for nonprofits where I help their board of directors,
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  you know, align with their annual goals and then do some grant administration,
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  that kind of stuff. So I oversee and guide all of that.
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  Wow. Yeah. So cool. So I don't really feel off base when people ask me,
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  what does your sister do?
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  Yeah. I don't know because you do a little bit of everything.
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  Yeah. So if someone were to ask me, I would say I really do operations management
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  all the way from inception to execution. Mm-hmm.
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  Across the board and it's actually not just it's doing the work setting up the
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  work setting up the systems and having a team execute it so we do the work for
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  you so you can do what you love,
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  so you have the grit and the drive and i have none of those because my husband
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  and i own a concrete construction company a great one i'm vice president of
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  that not of operations more of like the financial aspect,
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  and i showed to like sign papers and shit at the bank for like the loans and
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  whatnot but that's really like
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  you know and then oh and then they call me to do shopping which i'm very good
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  at i'm very good at shopping as well so but that like that's that's what i do
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  like that's how i earn like how i earn money
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  is with that that title but my husband like he does all the work.
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  So i'm very very thankful for that yeah of course and i do i do do vacation
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  coverage for our office manager.
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  So I was going to, I thought you were going to say I do vacations.
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  I'm like, give me time. I do vacations too.
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  I do like to vacation very much. It's one of my favorite pastimes.
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  Day drinking is my absolute favorite.
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  Day drinking. Yes. Okay. I love it. I was like, I love it.
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  Hey, if you can have a job description, that's the one to have, right?
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  Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. So, um, yeah. And so I, when I, like I said,
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  I used to have a team of 13 people, because I believe in not doing it all yourself.
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  But when Tosh died, how I healed is I let everyone go.
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  And I worked for nine years, well, eight years all by myself.
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  And I mean, I would say I was a workaholic, really. It's how I healed.
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  You were a workaholic, but you raised your daughter too. Yeah.
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  And I traveled a lot too. Yeah.
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  So, and I would manage to find love and so many great things.
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  So if someone were to ask me like,
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  Not only what do you do, but what I did is I created my dream life. I get to work for myself.
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  I get to serve others. I get to go to Pilates. I get to travel.
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  I get to come podcast with you.
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  I get to pursue education. I love, love, love to learn. I fucking hate it.
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  Like, I like the real world experience. But if you if you want me to take notes
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  or read a book that is not for joy, fuck off. But you're a good student.
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  I'm a terrible student. No, no. You're a perpetual student.
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  I'm a terrible student. Well, when we do our Art of Manifesting, you're a great student.
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  That's because I actually like it. OK, so that's. And it's kind of spiritual.
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  It is spirit. And like like whenever I'm doing spirit work, like it's always
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  like I'm all for it. But like, if it's like here, what's two plus two,
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  it's fucking five. I don't know.
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  You know, you know, it really is good math. Two plus two is five.
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  Yeah, I know. Right. Exactly. So what does freedom look like to you?
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  The ability to not study. Yeah, exactly.
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  No, like I am constantly learning, but it's not, you know, but I do think freedom
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  is the ability to go golf whenever my husband and I want to.
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  Yeah. The ability to day drink and vacation whenever we want to.
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  Like, what does it look like to you?
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  Well, freedom looks like being at 100% of choice.
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  Like I get to choose if I work. I get to choose if I play. I get to choose if
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  I delegate. I get to choose if I own something.
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  And it always works better when I don't hold everything to myself.
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  But you also, like you're so disciplined.
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  Like you know like when you have to do, even if you don't want to do it.
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  Like because then there's me and I'm just like fuck it YOLO.
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  You know? Yeah. But that's where you and I are different. I just don't listen
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  to the small voice that says like, oh, you should lay in bed,
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  you know, 20 more minutes. I literally get up and I put on my exercise clothes and I go.
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  Or, you know, that's just an instance. Or like when I dread work,
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  because sometimes I do dread work. I think I'm human that way.
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  If it's a new project, I procrastinate it. But then I'm like,
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  you know what, just do the damn thing. And once I do it, it was so easy.
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  So it's like, just do it. Here's what a butt cheese I am, for lack of a better word.
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  If my husband needs me to go into the office and I really don't want to,
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  I totally whine to him about it. But I still go in and do it.
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  But I'm a whiner baby. That's okay. You get a whine. So how has your relationship
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  changed with work as you got older?
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  I mean, obviously your day drinking. Not at work. Okay.
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  And, like, whenever I do spirit work, I don't drink. Yeah, that's true.
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  But, yeah, I don't know. I think just the older I get, I'm just like,
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  oh, but, like, my husband and I want to have an exit strategy for,
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  like, five years from now.
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  I don't know if that's feasible because we have 70 families that depend on our
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  business to provide for their families.
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  And we happily do that because, I mean, we love every single one of our guys.
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  Like, if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be where we are, right?
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  So we try to take care of them to the best of our ability 70 families is a lot
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  it's a lot i mean that's literally like,
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  oh like at least 100 people if not more yeah and just this year i hired someone
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  again so i'm not doing it all myself anymore i've got irma oh you know what
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  we should have her on the podcast yeah we should oh yeah but,
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  irma is fabulous and so she is helping do,
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  i would say a third of the work.
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  And this woman is awesome. She just literally does. I teach her how I answer
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  her questions and then she just does it.
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  And so she's remarkable. Like, godsend.
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  Thank you, Irma. Thank you, Irma. Yes, we love you.
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  So, ooh, if money were not a part of the decision, how would you spend your day?
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  Oh, my gosh. If money weren't a part of it, I mean, I believe that I would still
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  own the business because I built it. But I don't think I would be the person
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  doing the work. I'd oversee and I'd do client work.
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  But then I would literally draw, dance, move, do spirit work,
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  be with you, see, you know, the kids.
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  I i i would travel i think i would
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  do i think i would stress less if money weren't like a factor because i.
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  I'm kevin's a teacher and so we all know teachers what teachers get paid and
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  i know what i get paid and i'm grateful for both of our incomes because it makes
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  one complete package and we're doing just fine so yeah,
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  yeah i i think i answered this question in previous questions like I would if
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  money was not an issue I would golf and day drink yeah oh golfing too me too
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  we got a good golfing in there I love golfing I love,
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  I'm not good at it like I suck but I have fun that's the only place you could drink and drive.
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  And not get in trouble I mean unless you break a heart it's so funny when we
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  golf it's so funny we don't drink when we golf I do yeah I should try it yeah
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  it's it's might make it more relaxing you know I'll tell you what I I hit the ball better,
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  when I have some liquid courage because for whatever reason that tiny little
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  ball and that big little tiny big ass whatever t,
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  it intimidates me because I'm like you know I'm always yelling at it to like go to the hole,
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  go to the hole go to the hole ball and and I talked to my driver and my driver
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  and I have like a you know because like my goal my goal to the at the end of
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  this season is to be able to drive the ball 200 yards.
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  I got into 185, but,
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  Oh, I'm going to get there. Is that in the swing or the muscle?
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  I have no fucking idea. Yeah, I don't know. Some golf expert,
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  if you're listening to this, come on in and answer. My husband says it's in
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  the hips. And I'm like, I got your hips hanging, pal. Yeah.
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  Yeah. You can see Matt moving my hips right now. Yeah, but there's because like
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  you have the back swing and then the downward motion. And then like in the middle,
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  like when you get to shoulder, you're supposed to like really turn the power up.
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  I my brain does not work like that oh that's interesting yeah I don't know if
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  mine works that way either yeah so golfing so,
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  I when I got my master's I had a goal when I got my master's I was going to
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  learn to golf well I got that master's a long time ago and I never I was so
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  busy working raising kids that I just didn't golf
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  and when I met Kevin he's like do golf I'm like no but that's a goal of mine
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  so he bought me golf clubs without me ever going and he's like we're going and so he bought me,
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  he actually bought me golf shoes and golf clubs and a little glove thing i look
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  so cute i know it's all in the outfit too it's all in the outfit for sure so we went golfing and i,
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  love it and then danelle started golfing she did yeah she's actually very good
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  she went with us when i learned to golf quite a few times do,
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  you know what like i don't understand with these kids today like kaylani can
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  get up to the golf ball like because she goes too i never thought you a golf
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  ball she does she can drive that ball.
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  I don't like two 230 easy and i'm just like how how do you do that i don't know
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  i was like i don't know we're gonna have to be like you show me and i think
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  jesse i watched him one time and he drove the ball,
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  i think over 300 yards straight as an arrow we were at the mad russian golf course it was nuts,
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  what's your favorite golf course you've ever golfed at.
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  I'd have to say the Wailia Golf Course in Hawaii. Hawaii's on my list. Yeah, in Maui.
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  Maui's on my list. You know I have a dream home there, right? No.
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  Oh, my gosh. I'll show you a picture of it. It's on, like, a little peninsula
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  of some sort, and I think it's the Rich Person Peninsula, and I have to buy
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  it. Okay, well, have fun with that.
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  It's, like, millions of dollars. Yeah. You know, hey, millions of dollars could
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  drop in my lap right now. Someone could be like, this girl needs this house.
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  You know what I'm going to use it for?
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  Retreats. Yeah. We're going to do retreats there. It's going to be our one place
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  that we do retreats and we're going to change so many lives.
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  Yep. So she's throwing that out there, folks.
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  Manifesting the home in Million Dollar Peninsula in Hawaii. Million Dollar Maui.
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  Yep. Million Dollar Maui. Okay. So that, you know, that's actually why I work
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  actually is dreams and goals. Like I've manifested so many things in my life because I can.
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  Yep. Because why not? I'm a great manifester. You are a great manifester. I am. So work.
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  Can I imagine life without work? Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  As long as we can pay our bills and have a happy life, like,
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  I don't need any more things. I have, I mean, I will probably always have more
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  things like books and clothes. Let's be, let's be clear.
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  But I really have everything I need. Mm-hmm.
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  Me too. Yeah. And then some. Yeah, me too. Very blessed. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So it's not about the hustle for me anymore. It's about the being.
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  Yeah. Yep. And I'd like to do more of that with my hubby. Yep.
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  And you and our extended family. Mm-hmm. Yep.
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  So with that, that's our view on work and make work fun. Because when it sucks,
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  it's not good for anyone, house and home. Or you can be like me and just don't
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  work. Yeah. That works too. Yeah.
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  Yeah. I'm like. I work at not working. Yeah, I love it.
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  I'm all for it, actually. So with that, we're going to sign up.
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