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8-26-26 Hour 2 - Why Nix & Payton work so well together/Peyton Watson's farewell/Oh, By The Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: What is this? What does, um, this would be some 41.
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  Speaker 3: Um, What does Sean Payton hate from his quarterbacks more
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  Speaker 3: than anything else?
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  Speaker 2: Taking sacks. It's negative plays, right? But sacks are a
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  Speaker 2: big part of it. Yes, you're right. And his quarterback
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  Speaker 2: doesn't take very many sacks at all.
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  Speaker 3: If you combined sack percentage, interception percentage, and fumble percentage
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  Speaker 3: all into one giant statistic, did you know that Bo
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  Speaker 3: Nix was best in the league last year at all
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  Speaker 3: those things?
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  Speaker 4: You've said that a few times on the show. That
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  Speaker 4: stat is remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's been ingrained in him by Sean Payton
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  Speaker 2: from day one.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know who the other top three quarterbacks in
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  Speaker 3: that category are?
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  Speaker 4: That don't take sacks, don't throw picks, don't have negative plays. Is,
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  Speaker 4: let's see.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.
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  Speaker 4: Is Matt Stafford one of those?
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford is number two on that list.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Number three.
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  Speaker 2: Surprised me, actually.
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  Speaker 4: Would it be a kid in the Dak Prescott?
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  Speaker 2: Nope.
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  Speaker 4: New England, Drake May.
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: It's Caleb Williams, believe it or not. Caleb Williams, really?
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  Speaker 2: So those are your top three. You know what? Now,
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  Speaker 2: the worst in the league? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: J.J.
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  Speaker 2: McCarthy. Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Second worst is Geno Smith. Now, a lot of this
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  Speaker 3: is dependent on offensive line, who's in front of you,
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff, right? Like, that stuff matters. But I've
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  Speaker 3: said this about Bo Nix, and this is the thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's the weird part about Bo. is that I've said for,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, the last at least year, one thing
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  Speaker 3: I know about Bo Nix is he is good. He's
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  Speaker 3: a good quarterback. Now, I don't know if he's great yet.
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  Speaker 2: Could be. Or maybe he's just good. The nice thing
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  Speaker 2: about Bo Nix is this. He has such a.
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  Speaker 3: High floor for his game. And here's what I guess
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  Speaker 3: I mean by that. Can you name an instance in
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  Speaker 3: two years.
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  Speaker 3: Whether it's last year or his rookie season, in which
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  Speaker 3: you would say Bo Nix lost you the football game?
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  Speaker 2: I'd say maybe the first few games of his rookie year.
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix is especial. No, I can't, but he's had
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  Speaker 2: poor games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
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  Speaker 2: He's had poor games, yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a tough thing to assess because you can
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  Speaker 5: lose a football game in the first half by not
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  Speaker 5: being able to move the ball.
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  Speaker 2: True. How about this? Do you think Josh Allen lost
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  Speaker 2: them that playoff game? Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And that's despite the fact that he had pretty damn
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  Speaker 3: good numbers throwing the ball all.
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  Speaker 2: Over the yard, but he made mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: In the mistake category, he lost them the game.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on a second, though.
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  Speaker 4: And I get it. Josh Allen was charitable, to say
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  Speaker 4: the least.
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  Speaker 2: He threw four picks, bro. I know. But would you
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  Speaker 2: say that last one, though, was him? I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it was. It was a hell of a play. It
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  Speaker 2: was a good play. It was a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: play by Jaquan.
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  Speaker 4: You're not putting that on Josh Allen, are you?
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  Speaker 2: I'll do it. You know what? If it's a yard further,
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  Speaker 2: one yard further.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I'm not putting that on Josh Allen. No, no.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's just a great play. And the game's over.
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  Speaker 3: He fumbles 10 seconds left before the half and gives
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  Speaker 3: them an extra field goal, which you won by a
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  Speaker 3: field goal.
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  Speaker 5: I guess what I'm saying is he's that play, that
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  Speaker 5: Jaquan McMillan amazing play from the goat and the glory.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, because there's field goal range, game's over.
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  Speaker 3: They might win that game pretty easily if he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: turn the ball over at all, though.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And all I'm saying is... Like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: this is the difference. 30-17, something like that?
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  Speaker 3: What's funny is this is exactly what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen's ceiling is.
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  Speaker 2: Way up there. Way up there, right?
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know where Bo Nix's is at. But
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  Speaker 3: the floor for Bo Nix's games, even in games that
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  Speaker 3: you don't move the football very well or he misses
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  Speaker 3: a couple throws, he doesn't make the mistakes that kill you.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. So what you're saying then is his floor
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  Speaker 2: is up here. so that his floor is good enough
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  Speaker 2: and that every game is a winnable game. Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Every game is a winnable game.
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  Speaker 3: With a good defense, that's how you get a 14-3 season.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's not going to do something to blow the
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  Speaker 2: game for you.
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  Speaker 5: He's a winning quarterback who lives and breathes the game,
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  Speaker 5: and I totally agree with you. How do you explain
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  Speaker 5: the Jets game in London?
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  Speaker 2: Jet lag? Bangers and mash? Vic, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 2: would say London games are weird. Yeah. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: part of it. It's just weird. Last time I was
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  Speaker 2: in London with my lovely wife, she's like, I want
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  Speaker 2: a good old wholesome English meal. I'm like, oh, God,
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  Speaker 2: here we go.
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  Speaker 4: What is a wholesome English meal?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, it's the most bland. I forget what she ordered,
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  Speaker 2: but we went to this really English place. Like English food, right?
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  Speaker 2: In England? Who would have thunk it?
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  Speaker 4: No, they went to Taco Bell.
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  Speaker 2: You're missing the point here. All right, sorry. She wanted
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  Speaker 2: a traditional... Here. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll find it. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: That detail is not that interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that important either, I don't think, to the story.
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  Speaker 4: What's blander?
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  Speaker 6: British cuisine or that story, Moe's?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, she had roast. She had roast and, like, peas. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: the point is that maybe that's it, man. You get
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  Speaker 2: over there, and you're out of your element, man. And
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  Speaker 2: that's why these games overseas are weird to me. They're
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  Speaker 2: just very weird games.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the reason I think this is important, at least
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  Speaker 3: in the short term, and why this is going to
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  Speaker 3: matter in the long term, a defense like the Broncos
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  Speaker 3: have– combined with a quarterback that does not make mistakes,
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  Speaker 3: you are going to be a team that wins a
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  Speaker 3: lot of football games.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: That's just the way it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: If he elevates his game to another level, you're a
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  Speaker 3: team that's perennially in Super Bowl discussions now. And the
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  Speaker 3: second part to this, Moj, is when you need to
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  Speaker 3: make the decision to pay him $ 55 million or not,
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  Speaker 3: the I don't make mistakes isn't good enough anymore. You
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  Speaker 3: need to not make mistakes anymore. And do more on
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  Speaker 3: top of that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because he has the benefit of a defense right now,
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  Speaker 2: the way it's currently constructed and has been, that's going
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  Speaker 2: to keep them in a lot of games. Now, there
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  Speaker 2: were games when they didn't, and Bo had to win those,
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  Speaker 2: and he did. So that's good, but I completely understand
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  Speaker 2: what you're saying. Vic, I don't think he's ever going
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  Speaker 2: to be one of these 40 touchdown guys or maybe
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  Speaker 2: 38 touchdowns in a season. I don't think he's ever
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  Speaker 2: going to be that guy. And that's reserved, again, for
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  Speaker 2: the guys who... You know, the Staffords and the Mahomes
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  Speaker 2: and guys like this. These high touchdown total guys. But
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  Speaker 2: the key is when I look at the sacks, he
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  Speaker 2: took 22 sacks last season. 22.
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  Speaker 5: 22.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Playing every snap and was, what, top three in passing attempts?
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  Speaker 2: Herbert was more than double that. He was 54.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, man, bottom line is this.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence was double that. I mean, all these guys
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  Speaker 2: are double what Bo Nix has taken.
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  Speaker 4: If you're a Broncos fan, are you excited about your quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 6: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, I like my quarterback. That's a
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  Speaker 2: loaded question, Vic.
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  Speaker 4: Either you are or you're not.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what gets me excited about my quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he's going to win you some games?
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  Speaker 5: Do you think he's the kind of guy that can
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  Speaker 5: win you a game that you should lose?
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  Speaker 4: I think he's proven that abundantly.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. He's proven it. Last year was the year of
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  Speaker 5: proving that, and he did.
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  Speaker 2: He did. God, Brett, why do I want to qualify this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm happy with my quarterback. I like my quarterback. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that I'm excited about my quarterback. And I
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  Speaker 2: want to qualify it by saying this. You're right, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: He did. He had some of these drives and these
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  Speaker 2: late-game heroics and all this kind of thing. But I
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  Speaker 2: know on a handful of occasions, the defense forced a
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  Speaker 2: turnover to allow him to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: The other team did stupid, stupid things to allow him
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  Speaker 2: to do that. It's true, too. And he did it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. He did it. But did he
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  Speaker 2: do it in this handful of games because the other
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  Speaker 2: team was really that dumb? And I can think of
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  Speaker 2: two specifically, but more than those two. In the Giants
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  Speaker 2: game and the Philly game, those were way easy to see.
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  Speaker 2: The AFC Divisional game against Buffalo, way easy to see. And, Brett,
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  Speaker 2: you're right. Let's say Stafford. Let's say Josh Allen only
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  Speaker 2: has two turnovers. They'd probably win that game by double digits,
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  Speaker 2: probably by 10 points.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to hear that crap.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
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  Speaker 4: If the Broncos have Bowe, they win the AFC Championship.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. And you're right about that. No, but the
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  Speaker 2: point's about mistakes.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, hang on.
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  Speaker 2: His point is about making mistakes at that position. That's all. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he's right about that. It's not taking
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  Speaker 3: anything away, but it's true.
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  Speaker 2: So, wow, Mosier is a Bowe hater. Wild. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a Bowe hater. In fact, I would love to get... Nelly,
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  Speaker 2: straw poll it, please. I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Straw poll Bowe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. Vic, it's a loaded question. I'll just put
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  Speaker 2: it this way. Are you excited about Bo Nix? Yes
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  Speaker 2: or no? Everybody's answer is going to be yes. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's not because he's not. I don't know that excitement
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  Speaker 2: is the proper word right now. Happy? Certainly content, but happy?
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  Speaker 2: Like him? encouraged. All of that is absolutely true.
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  Speaker 5: Would you be more passionate on this subject? Would you
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  Speaker 5: be more energized about Bo Nix if he utilized a
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  Speaker 5: leather wristband play sheet instead of the typical NFL version?
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  Speaker 2: I'd probably kiss him on the mouth.
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  Speaker 4: Like, if he showed up Friday night sporting a leather
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  Speaker 4: Judas Priest play collar on his left wrist.
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  Speaker 2: How awesome would that be?
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  Speaker 5: Listen, lover boy, are you wearing a bandana on your
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  Speaker 5: jeans upper thigh?
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  Speaker 2: Sick look.
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  Speaker 4: It would be sick. Let's see, what else from the
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  Speaker 4: 80s are you probably.
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  Speaker 2: Doing right now? Did you guys do chains? Or was
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  Speaker 2: that later? Okay, so.
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  Speaker 4: Mosier's got a leather chain.
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  Speaker 2: There he is. Yeah, right there. No, no, we got him.
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  Speaker 3: Dog the Bounty Hunter also wears a leather wrist like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Or leather wristband.
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  Speaker 5: Are you wearing a leather wristband mid-bicep?
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  Speaker 2: I bet I could pull that off.
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  Speaker 3: Did you guys ever watch this show?
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  Speaker 2: Because I did. I've watched a couple episodes. They're pretty funny. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: slow down, brah! He just called everybody brah. Can I
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  Speaker 2: tell you about something about Dog the Bounty Hunter? Because
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  Speaker 2: I know him. I've had dinner with him. You've had
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  Speaker 2: dinner with Dog the Bounty Hunter?
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  Speaker 5: The least surprising thing you've ever uttered.
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  Speaker 4: That's so true.
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  Speaker 5: If there's anybody that the least surprising thing you've ever
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  Speaker 5: said is, I know him personally.
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  Speaker 2: I've had dinner with.
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  Speaker 5: You're wearing a leather wristband.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's what's true, though. You have to admit it.
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  Speaker 3: If anybody, I said anybody at this radio station right now,
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  Speaker 3: someone had dinner with Dog the Bounty Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: Who was it? Oh, God. No question. Would you like
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  Speaker 2: to know why? Sure. Back in 2015, when I did
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  Speaker 2: that television pilot with my good buddy Rick Lewis, the
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  Speaker 2: pilot was bought by Dog and Beth... their production company,
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  Speaker 2: Bonnie and Clyde productions before she passed away.
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  Speaker 4: What happened to that show? What happened to the show?
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  Speaker 2: It didn't get made. And, but do you want to
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  Speaker 2: know the, you want to know what's going on? Can
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  Speaker 2: we get a minute? Give me a minute. It didn't
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  Speaker 2: get produced as the show because at the time, everybody
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  Speaker 2: loved the sizzle reel. Everybody thought it was.
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  Speaker 5: So it's you and Rick just... Riding your bikes. Just
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  Speaker 5: riding your motorcycles?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was a travel show. It was a
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  Speaker 2: freaking brilliant idea, and the sizzle reel was great. What
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  Speaker 2: is a sizzle reel? What is this?
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  Speaker 4: A sizzle reel is sort of like a resume tape.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Video wise. Yeah. But we have a whole pilot,
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  Speaker 2: which was, which was awesome.
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  Speaker 5: So, so you and Rick and I love Rick. So
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  Speaker 5: you and Rick got on your Harleys with your leather
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  Speaker 5: wristbands and you.
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  Speaker 4: Just, we didn't have the wristbands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But it, it, Vic, you'd have to see it
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  Speaker 2: to understand it, but it was frigging great. That was
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  Speaker 2: 11 years ago. Anyway, dog. So what made it great?
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  Speaker 4: I want to get to that.
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  Speaker 2: What's a good question. Great. It was well produced. It
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  Speaker 2: was well filmed. But what's the show? What's the show?
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  Speaker 2: What do you do? What's the show? It's like an
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  Speaker 2: adventure show where you travel to different places and experience
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  Speaker 2: different things. Like Sedona, Arizona. You know, spiritual healers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all different kinds of stuff. It was really cool.
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  Speaker 5: So you would stop in these little cities and whatever
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  Speaker 5: they're known for, you would partake?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay, I got you. That being said, we filmed
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  Speaker 2: it in Arizona, the pilot. Dog and Beth bought it
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  Speaker 2: from us. I mean, you know... With their production company.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a leather wristband. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And they shopped it all over Hollywood and everybody really
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  Speaker 2: liked it. But at the time they say, we need,
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  Speaker 2: we're doing ghost shows or we're doing car shows or
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot or Bigfoot. Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Pawn shops at the time were big.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Right. So they're like, well, can they, and the
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  Speaker 2: food network goes, well, can they go to breakfast places?
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you ride your bike to an alien site?
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  Speaker 1: See, okay.
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  Speaker 4: What they really wanted were Italian looking dudes in Vespas.
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  Speaker 2: That's what, that's what we saw. I can promise you
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  Speaker 2: that nobody wants that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always confident.
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  Speaker 3: Hang on, hang on one second, one second.
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  Speaker 2: Very important question.
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  Speaker 3: What did you and Dog talk about over this dinner?
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  Speaker 2: And what did Dog order? We were at, um. And
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  Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable calling him Dog. What's his real name? Dwayne,
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: what's the place up on the hill by Red Rock? Wendy's.
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  Speaker 2: That would be great. If it was a fast food,
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  Speaker 2: just like stop dine in. What kind of dinner was it?
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  Speaker 2: Forget the name of it. Like a steak, big steak dinner.
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  Speaker 5: Steak.
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  Speaker 2: Outside on the patio. It was great.
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  Speaker 4: Were you packing?
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  Speaker 2: No, I was not packing. And he can't pack either
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  Speaker 2: because he's a former felon. But that being said. This
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  Speaker 2: guy right here is one of the salt of the
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  Speaker 2: earth people, man. He's just a great dude.
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  Speaker 3: What did he talk about with you?
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  Speaker 2: Television.
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  Speaker 3: Is he a sports guy?
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  Speaker 2: Not really. Doesn't strike me as one. But we talk television.
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  Speaker 4: What's he wearing?
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  Speaker 2: What is all that stuff? That's a bounty hunter badge
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  Speaker 2: that he's got around his neck.
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  Speaker 4: No, on the pants and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: What's in the pocket? Because he can't carry. Right, he
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  Speaker 2: can't carry a weapon. I mean, he can't carry a gun.
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  Speaker 2: He can carry other weapons. But he's got, you know,
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  Speaker 2: mace and spray and dotted, you know, all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Like hairspray and stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Cuffs and all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Did he call you brah?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he did.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Brett, between you and me, leave Moj. How long
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  Speaker 4: before Moj walks into the studio with a pair of
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  Speaker 4: pants and he's.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Got just sprays?
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  Speaker 3: I think you should be dogs about it for Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: Just, dude, how long?
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: The fort. That's it. The fort. The fort. That's where
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: we went.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: The fort.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: You're so right. I had dinner with Dog the Bounty
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Hunter once. Yeah, of course you did. It would have
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: been a great show.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: If Steve Nelson had said I had dinner with dog,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: then I'd be like, hang on a second.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: And this is why I'm pissed because I copyrighted this
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: with the government. The show, we copyrighted it with the
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: federal government. What do you copy? The concept. Of riding
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: a motorcycle to different places? Yeah, but you know what?
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Eric says what's funny is some big actors, all the
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: big actors have motorcycle shows they ride somewhere. Nobody was
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: doing this. And then, you know, have you ever watched
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Walking Dead? You know who Norman Reedus is? Yeah. That
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: mother trucker came out with a show years later. It
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: was years later.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's Norman Reedus.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is the concept
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: was a lot like ours.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you the concept I have.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't nearly as good. It completely sucked.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Very quickly, let me tell you the concept I had
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: that never got off the ground and I wish it had.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: This was about 25 years ago, 20 years ago.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: All right, turn off the dog music.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah! Hey, bro!
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Slow down!
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: You're doing court, bro! All right.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, yes!
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Do it quickly, Vic.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to share my concept now. You just
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: ruined my concept with that music. It was an extraordinary concert.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Was it a dance-off?
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: No, we had a golf show, and we shot it
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: in Arizona.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: And it was a gambling golf show, like poker. And
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: people wore those little readers of their heartbeat, heart rate,
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: all that stuff. And they bet before each shot. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: if your heart rate increased because you knew you were bluffing,
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: you could see it. The viewer could see it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Anyway, it never worked.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: That sounds like it sucked.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: We didn't ride around in our.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Motorcycles just saying, hey, everybody, we're here.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I will say it's a decent concept. What would make
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: the show better is if Dog was chasing you while
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: you're playing golf.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: 303-504-0925.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: The point is we got ripped off. Okay, got you.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: I got a chance to qualify for our Rock, Paper,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Scissors tournament, which gets you in the building at Arrowhead
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: for the opening game of the season next.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: See, there are things about my life that you guys
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: have no idea whatsoever.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: None.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Don't care.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Did you guys happen to see Peyton Watson's goodbye yesterday
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: on IG?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Instagram.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: It's funny because I did the show PhD and they
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: brought me on and asked about that exact goodbye. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: everybody likes to decode these social media goodbyes.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: It's hilarious. Do you want to read it before we
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: decode it?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: So I'll read some of it. I'm not going to
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: read the whole thing, but thank you. Nuggets Nation in
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the city of Denver, thank you for having me for
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the first four years of my career as a young
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: NBA player who was a bit naive and hadn't seen
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: much of the real world. You guys took care of
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: me better than I could have ever imagined. Thanks for that.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: Playing this game every night on a national stage is
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: difficult on both the body and the mind, but the
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: love from the fans always makes it so worthwhile. I
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: will miss seeing you all at Ball Arena. That's the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: first part is the decoding part. When he had to
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: mention it's difficult on the body and mind?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Is that part of it?
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: No, it's everybody he thanked. And, you know, DMACC asked me,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: why didn't he thank Christian Brown?
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: I said, I wasn't going to thank everybody.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Well, he went through. Okay, fine.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I'll just read the rest.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: A few special thank yous. Calvin Booth for believing in
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: me out of UCLA. The Kroenke family. Coach Malone. Coach Adelman.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: The rest of the staff. All my teammates for helping
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: me or for helping to raise me up. AG for
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: being my big brother. DJ for keeping me in check.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Joker and Jamal for all the assists. on and off
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: the floor. KCP for throwing my 21st birthday party. MPJ
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: for all the late night workouts and dinners.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: But again, most.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Of all, thank you to the fans playing in front
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: of you has been a dream come true.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: I'll see you soon. P.S. Christian Brown, get bent.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: No, there was never any.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm teasing.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: There was no enmity. I mean, listen, you guys know
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: how I feel about Peyton Watson.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: He's a good kid. Good, good kid.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like him. He and his family, I've
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: got to know them pretty well over the years. They're
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: good people.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: And he wanted to get his bag like everybody else.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: And I don't, it's not that, for me, it's the NBA.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: This is what you're set out to do. Guys are
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: happy for each other when they go get the bag.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, they were happy when Bruce Brown got it, right?
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: He got it and then he came back. I mean,
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: that's what you're here to do. We, as fans, sometimes
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: we miss on that. We assume that the ultimate goal
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: is to win a championship. Well, the ultimate goal for
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: these guys is to make money. Then win a championship.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: That's the ultimate goal. Now, you may not like hearing that,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: but that's the truth. Moshe, what's the ultimate goal for
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: a professional athlete?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Make some money. Make some money.
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: First.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: First.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: And foremost, take care of their families.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: You're not going to want to hear this. It's not
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: to cater to fans and media and win a championship.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: That comes with it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: That's part of it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Some of it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to it. But it's not
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the ultimate.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Listen, it's not what the ultimate goal is. The ultimate
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: goal is to make Moolah.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I wish I had. I wish I wrote down the
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Big 50 hierarchy of professional athletes. What's most important? But
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: essentially it is, number one, do I have a job?
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Number two, how much am I getting paid? Number three,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: how much am I going to play? Winning is like
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: fifth on the list of how these pro athletes think, right?
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Because a lot of the winning part of it, they
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: have no control over.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: That is correct.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: They have no control over their teammates, their coach. They
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: have no control over, do we have the right approach
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: to this? And if that all comes together, great, great.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: So first and foremost, it's what they control. And that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: their play. And that's their paycheck.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Did you guys.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Happen to hear Michael Porter Jr. on his podcast? He
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: was with Lonzo Ball. I don't know if they have
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: a podcast together, if he was just a guest on
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: it or what. But there was two different clips over
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the last couple of days that I saw. Let's start
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: with the one where he talks about why he thinks
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets team.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: What do you say?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Fell apart?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the exact quote, but go ahead, Nelly.
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: So I don't know why they let, that was the
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: beginning of our downfall. And I'm about to do Pope's
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: podcast in a week or two, but that was the
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: beginning of the downfall. But we still went game seven
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: with Minnesota after Tim Conley kind of built Minnesota to
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: try to beat us with the two bigs. Because then
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: you put Cat on Joker and you let Rudy kind
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: of roam. So they kind of built that team to
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: try to beat us and they got us in game seven.
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: So then they let us run it back another year
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: and that's when we lost to OKC in in game seven,
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: that's when I got hurt. I was wearing the pad
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: on my shoulder. My shoulder was like dislocated and stuff.
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: And we lost to OKC game seven. I had a
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: terrible playoffs because I had an AC joint grade two injury.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: Like it was like a three or four month injury,
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: but I'm trying to play through it. I'm popping it
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: with the numbing stuff with a needle every game. I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: trying to play through it. Can't lift my arm, but
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: we lose and I played the worst. So I'm like, okay,
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: I'm the one that's probably going to get shipped out.
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: And then they ship me out. P. Watt just got
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: traded to the Cavs. It's like slowly, but.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They still can be called.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: As long as you got Joker, Jamal, A.G. And what's
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: it called? Debo just went over there, too. Debo's over there.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: Cam's obviously a good player.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: So that's just some of it, but he thinks the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: start of the downfall came from letting KCP go.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: This is one of those things.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned this after KCP left for Orlando.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know where that sort of defense is going
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: to come from. Now, it allowed Christian Brown the ability
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: to have a bigger role in which he did flourish
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: shortly after that. That one year that KCP left, he flourished.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: But it is an odd.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Thing when you win a championship, you have this year
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: afterwards where you felt like you were close. I believe,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: if I remember right, Vic, you would have been well
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: into the second apron if you kept KCP, right?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It's not just that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of factors of why they let KCP go.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: And we do this hindsight thing all the time, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: we try to substantiate why things went the way they
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: did based on players.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: But I want you to– I'm going to– a quick
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: historical lesson. Here we go.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: In the championship season of 2023, KCP was elite as
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: a defender and as a spot-up three-point shooter. He's the
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: reason you came back and won that Phoenix series when
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: it was tied 2-2. Do you guys remember what KCP
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: did in that game six of that Phoenix series?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: You guys remember how he started that game? Couldn't miss.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Lights out. They won the series. They won the championship.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: KCP from 2023 to 2024 was not the same player.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: He was not.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Last I checked, they lost.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: In 2024, correct? Correct. They lost to Minnesota. Was KCP
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: on that team?
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: He was.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: Was he a primary perimeter defender on that team?
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: He was. Okay.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: How did he do in that series?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Not great.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: So I'm just, the revisionist history that we're going through
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: right now, I get it. You don't win an NBA
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: title without them. But things happen. People change.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: And develop. And guys drop off. And exactly right. They
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: get into the 30s and things start to just slip
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: even this much.
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: The Denver Nuggets at that time were not going to
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: pay KCP $ 22 million a year.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: They already had a guy who was going to take
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: a spot.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: And the guy that took his spot actually had better
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: numbers the following season.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Christian Brown played well that year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So I get it. We all want to keep guys.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: We all want that.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: We all understand the value.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I would love to.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Financially, it'd be hard to keep him. And also, statistically,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: he's not been the same player since 2023.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: That's a fact.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I played it because that's a player's perspective on it
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: that lived through the non-KCP years.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but players, they just look at the player aspect
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: of it and that sort of thing. They don't look
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: at it from the ownership side, apron side. You know,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you've got to... The players aren't predicting and projecting their
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: team two, three, five, seven years down the road. Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: They don't need to have that kind of foresight. Hey,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: I'm getting paid and I'm playing today. That's kind of
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: what it is. And I'm not saying that MPJ is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: completely wrong. I'm just saying his perspective is completely different
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: than what a GM or an owner has to have.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: And I get it, too, because every player wants to
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: make that creation. Every player wants to keep great players
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: around them.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: Zach chimes in on the text line. Vic, what do
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: you mean series tied 2-2? Yeah, it was tied 2-2
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: against Phoenix. Nuggets won the first two games at home.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: Went to Phoenix where Joker got into it with Matt
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Ishby on a loose ball. Lost two close games in Phoenix,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: if you recall.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: It was tied 2-2.
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Nuggets blow them out in game five here and then
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: blow them out of the water in game six.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Blew them out of the water.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: And that game that they won when Matt Ishby stole
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: Nikola Jokic's ball is the last playoff game the Phoenix
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: Suns have won. They have not won a single game
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: since then. And honestly, if I was in the arena
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: at that point, I probably would have thrown something at
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Matt Ishmael, like maybe a tortilla.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: It's time for another Rock Paper Tickets keyword.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Tortilla. I heard they throw tacos, tortillas. Texas Tech got
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: fined over tortillos. Tortitillo. I mean tortilla.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Text it in now to 303-504-0925.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: That's a key word. It's tortilla.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: So text that to 303-504-0925 with your first and last name.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: And you can qualify for a chance to play in
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: our Rock, Paper, Scissors tournament Tuesday at Rooftop Social in Rhino.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: The winner gets a trip to KC with flights, hotel,
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: and tickets to the first game of the year, Denver
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and KC.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: That's just a really good prize. That is a really,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: really top-notch, top-level, awesome prize. Yeah. I can't believe. And
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: as a show... Has any show in the history of
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: organized radio ever had more fun and more laughs about
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: tortillas in their life? Or tortitillos? Or tortoritas?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Has any DJ made a podcast he didn't do or like?
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: He's been on a whole lot of.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Those, man. I like him, though. I love it. He
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: is so transparent. Yeah, I love it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: By the way, the trend in the NBA now, Moshe,
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know if they do this in hockey. But
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know when this started. In the NBA, these
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: teams in the summer are now doing these retreats. Luka
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: brought a bunch of his boys to Slovenia.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Really?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: And they did a camp in Slovenia. Rudy Gobert brought
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: most of the Minnesota Timberwolves to Paris. And they did
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: a mini camp in Paris. Aaron Gordon, with the help
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: of J.J. Barea, has taken eight Denver Nuggets players to
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Puerto Rico.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: And they're doing a mini.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Camp in Puerto Rico. I saw the picture. And you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: know what I liked about that, Vic? A lot of
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the young guys, first-year guys, are there, too. Which is
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: cool that he is like, look. Hopkins, Brazil, yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Jamal's not there.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: The European guy. No, Jamal's not there. But the European guy.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: What's the? Diallo. Diallo. He's there. And I'm like, that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. He's not young, by the way. Well, I know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: But it's pretty cool that he got all these guys,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: even the new guys, and said, you're all a part
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: of this. I like that. That's cool.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Christian's out there because he's got his camp going on
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: this week here at Gold Crown. The Utah Jazz, they
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: got all their guys and they went to Finland.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Because, you know, when you think about basketball camps. Finland.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Laurie Markkinen.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, gotcha. Yeah. It's like, who's Finnish? Yeah. I was
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: going to say. the Charlotte Hornets. They went to Minot,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: North Dakota. So that actually, it's pretty cool.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Then, you know, you might as well, if you're going
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: to vacation with your buds and this is not for basketball, everybody.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Knows how you can do this anywhere. It's for more camaraderie.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: It's, it's, you know, to let's, let's get going here. Let's,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Let's get some brotherly love before the season starts.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It is just crazy thinking back, though.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: The Nuggets won the NBA title three years ago. Basically,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: four players remain from that team. Five, if you want
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: to include Zeke. But four guys remain.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That fast.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Roster just changes. Now, top guys still there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Do Boston now.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do the Celtics. How many do the Celtics still have?
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: And they won it the year after the Nuggets.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hang on, hang on. Let me see here.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: They've got Jason Tatum, Derek White.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Those two dudes. And they got Tatum's dad saying, that
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: roster sucks. Was Peyton Pritchard on that team?
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, Peyton Pritchard was on that team.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Sam Houser?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I don't remember if Sam Houser was on that team.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: I think he was.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: But they have like three dudes maybe. It's the year after. Yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: same thing. It's crazy.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do Milwaukee.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Milwaukee.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Who won it the year before.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: They've got nothing left. Nothing.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Look at how quick things are turning over in the NBA.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Does Milwaukee have a single player left? I don't know
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that they do.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Let me take a look. Hang on. I'll tell you
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Give me the Milwaukee roster. The current Milwaukee roster. And
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you right now.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: I got you right now, Vic. The starting five. You ready? Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Ryan Rollins, Tyler Hero.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Nope. Jamie Jockett, Kyle Kuzma, Miles Turner. None of those guys.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: None of those guys.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Uh-uh.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Who's on the bench?
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Gary Trent Jr.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Nate Ament.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: No, is the answer.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: They don't have one guy from their championship team left
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: on that roster.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Four years ago.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: That is insane.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, four years ago.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: That's the turnover in the NBA. So the least turnover
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: over the last five years from former NBA champions.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Is the Nuggets. Yeah. Vic, that's amazing. When you really
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: think about it, and you put it out there like that,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: that blows your mind.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. Oklahoma City's already.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Oklahoma City won it last season, and already they're enduring turnover.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Already. They did not want to get rid of Lou Dort.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I can promise you that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: I guess the lesson here is it's inevitable.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: It's inevitable.
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: You can't retain your teams because of the CBA. You
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: can't do it.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: It's not possible.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Speaking of our contest, you can join us at Rooftop
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Social next Tuesday night for that Rock, Paper, Scissors tournament.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: The winner gets a trip to KC for the Denver-Kansas
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: City Monday night opener, even if you don't qualify for
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: the tournament through text. If you show up at Rooftop
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Social on Tuesday, we're picking four people, at least, for
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: at-large bids to participate in this tournament. So we'll see
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: you at Rooftop Social in Rhino next Tuesday at 6,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Rooftop Social, an elevated sports bar in Rhino back after this.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, stories around sports in the world
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: we feel like you should be aware of. We all
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: know this story because we talked about it. I'll start
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: things out today, Vic. Oh, by the way, you remember
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the Akron Zips, what they did, something very unique to
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: begin the season here?
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: They said somebody gets to be an offensive coordinator and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: design the first drive of the season. Remember that? They
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: had a big contest.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: But there's some restrictions. You've got to abide by certain calls.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll get to that in a second. The amount
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of attention that this drew to them, they have sold
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: out all their suites. There's no suite inventory for sale.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: They had the largest ticket sales day in Akron Athletics
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: history on August 5th when they announced this. Like, this
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: is a hell of a smart promotion. And it's the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Akron Zips. We ain't talking like the Buckeyes here, okay?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But the winner is Marty Wims II, former Akron Zip
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: himself and a real estate executive from Cleveland. So he
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: gets to design the first drive of the year. Somewhat, yes.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a team taking their football season very seriously.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: You didn't know this was happening? How about quarterback for
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a day contest?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that it was a great promotion, whoever
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: thought of it, because they blew out tickets. And now
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Marty Wims II, that guy gets to design the first
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: drive of the season.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: The Rockies, who are on a big slide as of late,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: if they're on the quest to not lose 100 games,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: which I think is the goal, they needed to start
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: winning some. They got a little boost last night. Hunter
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Goodman back in the lineup, and he did what he
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: does best, which is homer. He has 35 this year.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: It's the most by any Rocky since 2019.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And his fourth inning.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: Homer that traveled 432 feet. Only Junior Caminero has more
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: 425 foot bombs than Hunter Goodman this year. So he
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: doesn't just hit homers. He hits tanks. By the way,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: if you want to know how important Hunter Goodman is,
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: the Rockies were on pace to not lose 100 games.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: And then he went on the IL and they went
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: two and eight. And now they're on pace to lose
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: 100 games again. So hopefully, rattle some off in a row.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: That would be good. Vic, what do you got? That's okay, Vic.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: We'll just move on. Did you guys see this from
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Ian Rappaport? There's a story coming out of Falcons camp.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Falcons camp. I want you to hear what happened here.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: They have Michael Penix Jr., but he's coming off the surgery.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: He's going to be, their plan was like, we cannot
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: play this guy at the beginning. We need to make
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: sure he's fully healthy.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: He's our first round pick. So they bring in Tua.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Here's the report from Ian Rapoport.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Tua's play has made the plan to make him a
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: starter at the beginning of the season, quote, impossible. Not
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: just in the preseason game, but it sounds like practice
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: as well. It is now Michael Penix's job for the taking.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: So here's what happened. Tua gets traded to Atlanta, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: he's basically in politics. You guys see this in local races.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: Sometimes people run unopposed. He lost the unopposed race. They're like, here,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: please take this. And he's been so bad, they're like,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I don't think we can do it. And I don't
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: know how this is possible for somebody who was really
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: good a couple years ago.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, dude, Vic.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe the concussions.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I worry about his health, yeah. Vic, it's about his health, Vic.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been racked up so many times that
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I'd be scared to play him.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: Can you imagine being an Atlanta Falcons fan with the
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: quarterback carousel that they've gone through recently?
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't they keep Kirk Cousins?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: It didn't work, so they ate it. It didn't work
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: That's why. They're going to stink. I mean, that's nuts, though.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: You were running unopposed, and you lost. With a guy
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: who has sawdust for knees. Serious. Well, according to his doctor,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: it will never be hurt ever again. Ever.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: How many knee surgeries has he had?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: At least three.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: He's had five season-ending injuries, though, in his college program.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: But at least three knee surgeries, yes.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So the PGA Tour, by the way, came out with
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: their official thing. They had this whole video outlining what
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: the end of the tour season was going to look like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: and it's awesome. It's the top 32 from their championship series,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: is what they're calling it. All plays in a match
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: play format. that looks a lot like the world cup.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: Not only is it match play, which is brilliant because
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: the Ryder cup match play in anybody who knows golf
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: understands why match play is brilliant to crown a champion
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: because sometimes the best player doesn't win. The most consistent
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: player doesn't win. The hot player wins. And this allows
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: the PGA tour now to move to courses that otherwise
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: they would never play because it doesn't set up for
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: a four day stroke play tournament. A lot of people say, well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Can't play stroke play here because this course is too short,
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: too easy.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: We can do match play.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Damn right you can. Yeah. It opens up a lot
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: of different– Bandon Dunes for crying out loud.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: It's a brilliant.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Move by the PGA to do.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Something that I think fans have been wanting for years.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: More match play.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Mono a mono. None of this grinding over everything. You
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: win the hole or you don't.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: That's why the Ryder Cup is so fun.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: The quick recap here is the first week of this
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: playoff format, and it's going to start in 2028.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Um, top 32 for.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: The championship series, eight groups of four, three days, one
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: match per day, the top two from each group advance.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: Then in week two, 16 players, new course, one V
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: one single elimination. You win four straight.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: You love it. I think it's fantastic. I can't wait
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: for it. I can't wait two years. Hey, I've got
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: one for you. Oh, by the way. Um, what's the
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: name of that place in Atlanta? The, with the wings
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: magic city. Okay. Magic city. Well, there's a certain guy
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: from Switzerland who's going to be maybe finding out what
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Magic City is truly all about. You don't see this
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that often, but the Atlanta United and the MLS, Vic,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: they've signed and acquired striker Briel Mbolo away from French
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: League and away from Ipswich. Town in the English Premier League.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: They want, I mean, he played in the French League.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Ipswich Town wanted him, but Atlanta United paid $ 18 million
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: to bring him over to the MLS. And he said,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: everybody in Europe is shocked. They wanted me to play
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: in England. They wanted me to play in Italy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: He was big in the World Cup for Switzerland. He
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: was huge. Yeah. He wants to come over and play
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta for an MLS team. You rarely see that, right?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Unless it's like Wayne Rooney at the end or Messi
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: here at the end, you know, and that's a Beckham,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you know, Zlatan, that kind of thing. This guy, this
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: guy's a player, man. Well, good for the MLS. Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: I think it's time to throw a little soccer love
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: out there to our soccer brethren.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Nelly, you got something for us?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, by the way, I.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: I don't really pay as much attention to politics as
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: I probably should both locally and globally, and I'm trying
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: to be better about that. This might cause me to
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: change my mind. There is a politician in Germany who
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: wants to organize orgies at City Hall.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: He said, quote, group sex with city council members would
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: be the ultimate closeness.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: With the citizens. Oh, my God.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: And he noted that there are no laws on the
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: books prohibiting swingers parties at City Hall.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Man, why is this world so full of freaks, man?
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: He told The Telegraph, quote, at the moment, the focus
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: is on determining which of the citizens who contacted me
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: are seriously interested. So, guys, would a nice grassroots orgy
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: get you a little more involved at City Hall?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: No, pass. That's just ridiculous. One million percent pass. How
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: do these people get in power? How do these people
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: get elected?
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Oh, by the way, he has a two-pronged goal. The
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: first step is he wants to destigmatize swinging culture, and
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: then he wants to promote a nudist swinger paradise, that's
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: a direct quote, in the city where he's a council member.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you guys something.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: What kind of websites are you into?
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about, Steven? Hipposucker.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you something.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, Franz, get bent. Get out of here.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: No. When I first moved here, it was the first
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: few months where my wife was not with me yet.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I used to go to this place. I have dogs.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I love dogs. There's this bar that was next to
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: my apartment at the time that was like a dog.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: It was a bar, but it had this big outdoor
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: area for dogs to all run around. So I like
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: to go there occasionally, have a drink, and then I
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: would just pet dogs who would run up to me.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Missing my dogs.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: And these people that were there, I get to know them,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: saw them a couple times. They said, why don't you
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: come over here on Saturday nights?
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: And I was like, eh, maybe. They're like, you really should.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I asked somebody about this place.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say the name. I know the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: place you're talking about. I've been to the place you're
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: talking about. It's Swingers Night on Saturday nights. Really?
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Come on, dude.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Never been back to that place since. Never. Weirded me out.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Totally weirded me out.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: And they openly advertised it?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: It's like there's a cover charge to get in.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen. It's not from what I understand. I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: don't think it happens there.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I think that you just meet people and then you
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: go off somewhere else.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to a place? Have you ever
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: seen the movie From Dusk Till Dawn? Yes. Have you
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: ever walked into a place and felt like, oh, my God.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I felt like Tarantino and Clooney in From Dusk Till Dawn. Like,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: everybody looks at you like. I don't belong. Like, is
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: the door going to be locked behind me and the
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: vampires are going to come?
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: That's where that leather wristband comes in.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you. My favorite bars, though. I'm
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: a big dive bar guy.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I need to have, like, my perfect bar setting for
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: a dive bar is I feel like there's a small
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: percent chance I might get stabbed.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not going to, but there's a little bit of, like, fear.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: The possibility is always open. Yes. There's a little bit
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: of fear that surrounds you. That's the perfect ambiance.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, and this is the last one.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I just want to contribute this. AI is dangerous. It's
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: getting out of control. The fighting robots, we talked about
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: this yesterday.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Now, with the ability to communicate on a personal level,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: my brother has his chat GPT on yesterday, and we're
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: asking the chat GPT to evaluate golf swings. My mother's
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: listening to the conversation. The chat GPT has an English
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: accent and having a conversation with us. My mother thinks
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: it's a real person. So she starts talking to chat GPT,
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: thinking it's a real human being. And we had about
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: 20 minutes of a conversation there that she thought.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Who did she think the British person was you guys
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: were talking to?
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Somebody on the other phone.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: On the phone. I mean, it was on the phone. Oh,
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: poor Bambina. Hey, cutie. And I'm telling.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: You right now.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: You should have done that. You should have started hitting
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: on that lady.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: It just hit me.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: Because the way the computer responded to our queries was
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: so conversational.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: It was conversational.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Like, you would never be able to distinguish unless you
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: knew you were using chat.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: It's gone too far.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I watched the video that you sent out. I actually
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: was a little bit mad at the AI thing.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: It dismissed your mother. It said, oh yeah, enjoy your lunch.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So the golf swing. Exactly. I didn't like that. Did
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: you see that? Yes. The computer's rude? It dismissed her.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: It was like, enjoy your lunch. I gotta come up
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: with this golf swing real quick.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: But she couldn't understand the concept that she was.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I don't blame her.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: That was not a real human being.
• 44:59
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• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I got to get back to this bone X thing
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: as we roll on. And I've got a bone to
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: pick with some of the listeners out there who picked
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Picked on you? Had a bone to pick with me.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: Moosh, a lot of the texters are saying that swingers clubs,
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: the big, like everybody knows you're in a swingers club
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: when you're wearing a leather wristband.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: It's an indicator. Indicator, I'm ready. All right.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Get back to that with some Davis Web Audio next.