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Attack of the Horror Finale Songs! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 6: It's time for Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killers soundtrack.
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  Speaker 3: The live transmission has begun, and we're into the final
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  Speaker 3: hour of hell.
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  Speaker 6: What's up, and welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the
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  Speaker 6: Killer soundtrack. I am Brian.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm George.
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  Speaker 6: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 6: the Oddity Studios for another soundtrack episode, but specifically, since
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  Speaker 6: last time we referenced our big love for end credit
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  Speaker 6: songs and... We were already leaning towards a lot of
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  Speaker 6: horror when we, as we said before, decided let's just
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  Speaker 6: go ahead and lean into it for a whole episode.
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  Speaker 6: We are back for a very spooky episode for our
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  Speaker 6: Halloween fun.
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  Speaker 2: So spoopy.
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  Speaker 6: Of end credits songs, big finale songs, anything to round
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  Speaker 6: out your horror movie, we're going to throw it in
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  Speaker 6: the mix here. That's right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Got some fun stuff here, I think.
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  Speaker 6: But for that, just to ease our way into the
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  Speaker 6: Halloween season, number one, I busted out the Legos.
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  Speaker 7: Ah, yes.
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  Speaker 6: So this time we have a spooky old house that
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  Speaker 6: we've decided to investigate.
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  Speaker 2: I love it.
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  Speaker 6: And of course you were like, okay, we can go there,
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  Speaker 6: but we got to at least stay on the path.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, but look at that house in the
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  Speaker 6: moors over there. And then I ran over to the
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  Speaker 6: moors and then look, now there's a werewolf coming out
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  Speaker 6: of the bushes to attack.
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  Speaker 2: So my god i.
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  Speaker 6: Obviously have led us astray.
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  Speaker 2: You know every single time you want to go to
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  Speaker 2: the moors and there's a werewolf let me let me
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  Speaker 2: check this house here i mean let's do you know
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  Speaker 2: somebody's trying to board up the windows but it's been
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  Speaker 2: a very lazy job here because they only use like
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  Speaker 2: one board i mean that's all you need you know
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  Speaker 2: uh the roof looks like it needs some some severe
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  Speaker 2: replacement here it's falling apart yeah so it's a definitely
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  Speaker 2: it's a fixer-upper but uh Of course, the werewolf's kind
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  Speaker 2: of back there, so we've got a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: room to run.
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  Speaker 6: If we know it's coming. If not, it's just going
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  Speaker 6: to pounce.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I've got to tell you, I'm kind of a
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  Speaker 2: fast runner.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not, I found recently when I had to, and
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  Speaker 6: it was not a good thing. I've realized, oh, I
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  Speaker 6: used to run a lot when I was young a
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  Speaker 6: million years ago, and then I haven't even attempted in
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  Speaker 6: so long that when I needed to.
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  Speaker 2: I went, Oh, I can't do that anymore. So, I'm
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  Speaker 2: werewolf food is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my height brings me a lot of advantages. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I take one step for every, like, two or three
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  Speaker 2: an average person would take. So, you know, again, yeah, you're... Sorry, dude.
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  Speaker 2: I just have to be faster than you. Unless there's
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  Speaker 2: two werewolves, then we're screwed.
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  Speaker 6: That's true. I know somewhere I have at least one,
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  Speaker 6: if not some other one. So, I can work them
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  Speaker 6: in the other bushes on the other side there.
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  Speaker 2: But.
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  Speaker 6: You're listening to us describe this. I will post at
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  Speaker 6: least one, if not a couple of photos of this
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  Speaker 6: little adventure that we're having on Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, though. Maybe there's a werewolf on top,
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  Speaker 2: like on the roof or something. I've already pounced on it.
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  Speaker 6: There's definitely a ghost in the house. I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. But, yeah. So, I hadn't done a full-on Lego
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  Speaker 6: holiday theme since last year's holiday festivities. So, I thought
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  Speaker 6: I better... Build a fallen down house and give us
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  Speaker 6: some sort of adventure to get into.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Or maybe we have to run into
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  Speaker 2: the house to escape from the wolf.
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  Speaker 6: And fight off the ghost. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 6: physical action this ghost has. We haven't decided yet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, iron and fire are best ways
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  Speaker 2: to take out a ghost. You know, if the ghost
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  Speaker 2: has something, you know, an attachment to something, you burn
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  Speaker 2: that and you're good. Or, you know, if a ghost
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  Speaker 2: is coming at you, a nice iron chain or a
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  Speaker 2: fire poker or something like that, man.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if we're making a horror movie, we have
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  Speaker 6: to grab the fire poker.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I've started making a list of movies that do that
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  Speaker 6: because it's so cliche that any, if not a horror movie,
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  Speaker 6: any horrible goings on in your family, some sort of
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  Speaker 6: a husband cheating on you movie, like, Take your pick.
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  Speaker 6: Any number of movies, you're going to grab the fireplace
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  Speaker 6: poker and somebody's going to get smacked in the head
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  Speaker 6: with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's good for a blunt object, but if you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with the paranormal, specifically ghosts, spooks, specters, poltergeists, iron and fire.
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  Speaker 2: I learned all my monster hunting stuff from the Winchester brothers.
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  Speaker 6: See, I'm more old school. I learned everything I know
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  Speaker 6: from Scooby-Doo.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Scooby-Doo didn't find anything. They ran from stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly the point.
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  Speaker 6: Although we have to make the bongo noise when we
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  Speaker 6: get ready to run.
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  Speaker 2: That's true, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And our feet kind of have to stay in the
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  Speaker 6: same place for a minute, which is why the werewolf
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  Speaker 6: will catch us. And I can get down.
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  Speaker 2: On those sandwiches that Shaggy and Scoob make from time
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  Speaker 2: to time.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes there's too much chocolate sauce mixed with
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  Speaker 6: your pickles, but yeah, whatever, you know, you just try it.
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  Speaker 6: You never know. Sometimes it'll come out all right.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So, Legos is one, it's a newer tradition, but the
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  Speaker 6: oldest of all traditions for the Halloween episodes.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-oh. Gotta bust out the, oh man, some Halloween candy here.
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  Speaker 2: What do we got here? Oh, we got a pumpkin
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  Speaker 2: pie Kit Kat.
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  Speaker 6: I wanted to get specifically, not just random, you know,
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  Speaker 6: fun size Kit Kats, but one that you can't pretend
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  Speaker 6: doesn't have something to do with Halloween. Now, whether or
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  Speaker 6: not anybody wants them, I've realized, normally not. But I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 6: that's good, because then I can just give them away.
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  Speaker 6: I can be like, here, go over to see the
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  Speaker 6: kids on Halloween and be like, those are nice costumes. Here,
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  Speaker 6: eat this stuff. Nobody else wants it. So I kind
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  Speaker 6: of like those, but I feel like a little goes
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  Speaker 6: a long way on those.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad they're the small size here. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're right. It's not bad, but it's definitely like... It's interesting, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like a crunchy pumpkin pie, because you
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  Speaker 2: got the wafer thing there. But yeah, I don't hate it.
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  Speaker 6: And, of course, the Reese Cups. You can't go wrong.
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  Speaker 6: And they have special little ghosts and stuff on the wrappers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: You can't go wrong with Reese Cups. And that is new.
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  Speaker 6: In many years, I've discussed the Ghost Bowl. I think
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  Speaker 6: I found it recently, and now it's reshuffled back into
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  Speaker 6: the mess. So I normally have a tiny little Skull Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: I ran into that recently. That is a Day of
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  Speaker 6: the Dead Skull Bowl that I thought was really nice. So, yep,
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  Speaker 6: that's what I went with this year. Day of the Dead.
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  Speaker 4: Far out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course, we got our household decorated up. We
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  Speaker 2: have these new remote control candles. They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they're battery operated and whatnot. But yeah, you hit them
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  Speaker 2: with a remote, man. It's like, those are awesome. So
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  Speaker 2: we got those in our pumpkins out front.
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  Speaker 6: I've got a few things. Sad thing is I usually
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  Speaker 6: end up buying like my normal household items for the
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  Speaker 6: entire year in October. I've got a new coffee mug.
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  Speaker 6: Almost every year I'm like, ooh, a mug with ghosts
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  Speaker 6: on it. Yes, I need that. So I've got one
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  Speaker 6: of those sitting in the kitchen there. um i also
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  Speaker 6: i'm getting this weird table at the same time found
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  Speaker 6: this weird little drive-in that's haunted that is now sitting
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  Speaker 6: on top of it so i love that that's cool
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  Speaker 6: i was like that's kind of cool it's it's got
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  Speaker 6: palm trees and an outdoor drive-in setting but it's also
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  Speaker 6: got little ghosts on the screen and a bat so
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  Speaker 6: it's a nice halloween tie-in for for also being a
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  Speaker 6: movie geek so excellent i like that um yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't really you know purchased any like you know
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  Speaker 2: decorations and stuff outside of what my wife has got,
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  Speaker 2: but comic-wise, there's been a lot of cool horror stuff
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  Speaker 2: come out. Most notable, especially for film fans, is the
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  Speaker 2: Night of the Ghoul series. The first issue just came
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  Speaker 2: out a couple weeks ago when we were recording this
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  Speaker 2: thing here, but our creative team is writer Scott Snyder,
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  Speaker 2: who's a superstar writer in comics, did a lot of
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  Speaker 2: Batman and tons of other stuff, and then artist Francesco Francavia. which,
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  Speaker 2: you know, of course, you may know him best from, like,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the afterlife with Archie and Jughead the Hunger. Like, basically,
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  Speaker 2: when they do, like, the darker side of Riverdale, they
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  Speaker 2: call Francesco, because Art, like, has a throwback kind of
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  Speaker 2: feel to it, but he does horror so well. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: But the plot of this one is that, basically, Night
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  Speaker 2: of the Ghoul was supposedly one of these lost horror movies. Like,
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  Speaker 2: it may have gone up in the 46th Universal Fire,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, you know, London After Midnight and Man
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  Speaker 2: Who Lives, that sort of thing. Yeah. So... Anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: this film fanatic, he and his son find this very
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  Speaker 2: out-of-the-way old folks home that turns out the director of
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  Speaker 2: the film has been living there in secrecy for years.
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  Speaker 2: And so the dad goes and talks to him, and
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  Speaker 2: basically it seems like there's a very strange, weird conspiracy
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  Speaker 2: about this movie and why it was destroyed, not because
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  Speaker 2: of the reason. Maybe it was for a sinister purpose.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe the ghoul is actually real and kind of like, Basically,
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  Speaker 2: the ghoul essentially was the reason for all the folklore
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  Speaker 2: that created all the monsters. Like, basically, it would drain people's...
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  Speaker 2: blood and so again that was blamed for vampires or
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  Speaker 2: it was you know would cause this sort of sickness
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  Speaker 2: that was blamed for zombies or it would do this
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  Speaker 2: and this and this and you know so it's like
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  Speaker 2: it seemed like maybe the ghoul was the ultimate monster
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  Speaker 2: this could have been the ultimate movie but maybe the
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  Speaker 2: movie was a.
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  Speaker 6: Warning patient zero of all monsters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah uh but yeah just the art is amazing the
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  Speaker 2: story is very compelling And it's really cool, too, because
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  Speaker 2: Francesco's art changes when we're doing flashbacks, looking at the film,
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  Speaker 2: to when we're back into the modern day, talking from
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  Speaker 2: the dad and the film director. Of course, the film
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  Speaker 2: director does not look very good, so it looks like
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  Speaker 2: he's perhaps maybe a burn victim himself.
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  Speaker 6: Mauled by the creature. Something.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there are some sinister things afoot. So I
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  Speaker 2: believe this is like a three-issue series. But after the
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  Speaker 2: first issue is released, Warner Bros. is like, hey, you
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  Speaker 2: know what? We're going to make a movie out of this.
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  Speaker 3: That is? Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So it's... Will they then purposely lose it to make
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  Speaker 6: it all come full circle?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like not, because that's not a good way
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  Speaker 6: to make money, but, you know, it would be interesting
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  Speaker 6: to pull that maneuver.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, it's a very, very cool story. Like, it's
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  Speaker 2: just the first issue. It's like, I got you. You
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  Speaker 2: got me in. Yeah, I'm good to go.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that does sound cool. Yeah, I rarely get around
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  Speaker 6: to reading comics anymore. As much as I like them
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  Speaker 6: and grew up with them, it's, yeah, it's... Too many
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  Speaker 6: other things. I can't keep driving.
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  Speaker 2: And you would live in the vicinity of two very
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  Speaker 2: nice comic book stores, being Great Escape and The Zone.
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  Speaker 6: Most of my childhood was spent trying to convince somebody
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  Speaker 6: to go to Great Escape because I couldn't drive yet.
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  Speaker 6: So I was just like, I need to go somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: Why it became such an ordeal each time, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: You'd think eventually they'd be like, all right, come on,
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  Speaker 6: let's go. They just know where I want to go.
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  Speaker 6: But trying to lure someone to take me to the
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  Speaker 6: Great Escape was most of my childhood.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Growing up in southern Indiana, the Great Escape, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: even know about it as a kid because that was Louisville.
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  Speaker 2: Louisville seemed like a foreign country. But we had a
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  Speaker 2: Walgreens for a while. And then somewhere in the mid-90s,
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  Speaker 2: there was a sports card store popped up that sold
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  Speaker 2: new books. And to compete with it, the Ben Franklin
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  Speaker 2: also sold comics that was kind of nearby. But then
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  Speaker 2: like a proper comic seller came. came in and bought
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  Speaker 2: the sports card store and turned it into Empire Comics,
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  Speaker 2: which is still around today.
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  Speaker 6: Get these sports cards out of the way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it literally was. It was like, we sold baseball cards,
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  Speaker 2: other sports memorabilia. Oh, yeah, by the way, over on
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  Speaker 2: this wall, here's some new comics.
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  Speaker 6: It's comic book guy from The Simpsons, basically.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, kind of, but maybe it's still like it was.
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  Speaker 6: Here's my Android comic books, but oh, yeah, we've also
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  Speaker 6: got baseball cards over there.
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  Speaker 2: But he would get more things than the Walgreens. The
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  Speaker 2: Walgreens would get the top ten Marvel titles. You just
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  Speaker 2: had the spinner rack.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. The one we had up the street was
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  Speaker 6: the same thing. I'm like, look at this Teen Titans.
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  Speaker 6: Everything I got was one issue because I would just
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  Speaker 6: wander in and be like, what is this?
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  Speaker 2: Again, you don't get... At least back then, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually I got to where I was into series, but.
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  Speaker 6: In the beginning, it was just like a comic book.
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  Speaker 6: This is great.
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  Speaker 2: And they kind of wrote them that way on purpose.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was kind of like Marvel. DC kind of started
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  Speaker 2: a little bit first with kind of the summer annuals
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  Speaker 2: they would do where they would get like the Justice
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  Speaker 2: League and the Justice Society together and do like a
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  Speaker 2: little multiversal crossover thing. And it was just a one-issue annual,
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  Speaker 2: but they would keep referring to those annuals throughout the
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  Speaker 2: other years. Like, oh, yeah, I remember last year when
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  Speaker 2: we had to fight this and this. And then a
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  Speaker 2: little asterisk is like, see?
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  Speaker 11: See?
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  Speaker 6: 162.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 6: We'll get 162. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And so then Marvel also kind of in the 60s
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  Speaker 2: is like, well, we're going to do a continuous story.
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  Speaker 2: They did the Kree-Skrull War, which introduced Captain Marvel, the
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  Speaker 2: OG Captain Marvel, before Carol Danvers came in. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so there's always– it was mostly like an issue-to-issue sort
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  Speaker 2: of thing. Because of the fact that they knew the
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  Speaker 2: kids weren't getting each and every issue. They were just
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  Speaker 2: getting the ones they could find on the newsstand.
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  Speaker 6: It was a very different world back then. It really was.
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  Speaker 2: And now you've got comic book stores. If you can't
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  Speaker 2: find the issues, it's because you don't have a subscription
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  Speaker 2: file with your favorite store. So, you know.
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  Speaker 6: You're doing it wrong.
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  Speaker 2: You're doing it wrong. And they got the apps. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of most stores have the apps now. So, it's
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  Speaker 2: all convenient and high tech and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, folks.
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  Speaker 6: This is why I'm out of the loop. But being
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  Speaker 6: the kids that we were, super dorky, into comic books,
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  Speaker 6: we were also into these horror movies.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we were.
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  Speaker 6: And as I was going through, it was like half
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  Speaker 6: of these tied to that era or the era right
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  Speaker 6: after that with a few for me. So yeah, this
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  Speaker 6: is a nice mindset of how we got to these
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  Speaker 6: horror movies and our horror geekdom. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you're right i mean my list i have two
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  Speaker 2: movies that are in the 2000s other than that my
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  Speaker 2: movies are entirely in the 80s yeah yeah which i.
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  Speaker 6: I figured and then i was going with some newer
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  Speaker 6: ones and then fell back and did older stuff as
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  Speaker 6: i went so yeah it's it's all rooted there.
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  Speaker 2: But it's interesting that we're you know of course talking
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  Speaker 2: about horror movie uh you know like ending songs and
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  Speaker 2: kind of like this is like the cap to you
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  Speaker 2: know the movie and kind of like sometimes you know
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  Speaker 2: like Again, the 80s just seemed to be the heyday
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  Speaker 2: for songs written for movies. Didn't matter what movie it was.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: I think it's also because that didn't happen before much. Like,
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: you know, you had tons of old scores for movies
• 15:13
  Speaker 6: from back to, you know, once we get out of
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: silent film from that point on, you have people writing
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: a score for a specific film. We have a ton
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: of stuff. Even like 70s, we start working in kind
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: of pop music along the way, but not a ton
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: of like, This.
• 15:27
  Speaker 12: Is a big deal.
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: We're going to make this happen. As you get to
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: Butch and Sundance, you've got a song that's tied specifically
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: to a scene. It's got a very heavy crossover there.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: But that was the kind of thing that would be
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: thrown in every once in a while. The 80s just
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: ushered in a whole new era of this is a
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: new type of film we're making now, especially in horror.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: And we've got all these rock stars that are just
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: hanging around. Not that they don't have anything to do,
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: but they're also... half the time big horror geeks so
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: like they want to be involved in these movies so
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: it just brought with it like sort of hand in
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: hand here's this specific song that this dorky rock star
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: wanted to make for your dorky horror movie and it
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: all just comes together so yeah i think that's why
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: there's such a push because it was like a new
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: thing we decided oh we can do this yeah hell
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: yeah we're gonna do this.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah but yeah you're like you with the exception of
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: like the musicals like the 40s through the 60s that
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: was really your only movie genre that was you can
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: depend A connotation like your westerns. Shane had a song
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: specifically written for the movie. But yeah, they weren't, not
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: all of them were pop songs. The 60s kind of
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: ushered that in. Like you said, Butch and Sundance, Midnight Cowboy.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: But even then, it was very singer-songwriter. It was the
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: music of that time more so than by the time
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: you get to the 80s, it is the music of
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: its time as well, most of the time.
• 16:53
  Speaker 13: It is, yeah.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, this was just like It just seemed like
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: a golden era. But the interesting thing is that every
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: now and then you'll see modern movies. They don't so
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: much have a song written for the movie, but they
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: just really cleverly do one. And since we're talking horror
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: movies like one that's in theaters currently is Barbarian, which
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I won't say anything about the movie because I enjoyed
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: it thoroughly. But the less you know going into it,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: the better. Uh, so don't stop watching the trailer. Just
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: go buy a ticket and go check it out. It's fun.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: It's creepy. It's great. Uh, but they, the usage of
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: be my baby, uh, will kick you in the pants. Uh, it's, it's, yeah, it's,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it's great. It's just, it's genius ending to it. And yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: but yeah, it's awesome.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: And I love that. Sometimes it's, it's just a fun
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: song and they tie it in, in a specific way.
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: And other times it's, oh, this is so well put
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: together from your dorky filmmaking side of things, where you
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: were like, you were sitting at home writing this movie, going,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: and I'm gonna get rights to that song, and it's
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: gonna just really cap it off at the end, and like, that's,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: I've got at least one of those, if not several,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: that that's how they happen.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: You know? My two modern days definitely are, this is,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you know, the songs that were, the filmmaker or producer
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: or somebody picked those specifically for this movie to end
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the tale with, but The majority of the songs I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: picked were, if they weren't covers made for the film,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: they were definitely written for the film.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: There are a lot of covers. Yeah, we did do one.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: And that's what I was trying to decide with this too.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: We did do an episode many years ago that was
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: horror covers that were just in general, just cover songs. And, um,
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: so I think there's, there's not much crossover with that one.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I'm actually avoiding one specifically, but, um, There's a few
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I think we're going to work in anyway. Because I
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: was like, I don't know. I've tried not to do
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: tons of the same song over the years, obviously. But
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: at the same time, when do you not listen to
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: a song more than once? When do you not get
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: together with your friends and listen to, I really love
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: this song, and you play it?
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: That's what we're doing.
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: And it's also been years on many of these. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: if we play one again, eh, deal with it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Or if it's a favorite song of yours that you
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: normally have in your playlist, or you... It's a song
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: you only want to listen to around on Halloween or
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: whatever else. Yeah, whatever else.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: But there's so many general just random pop songs that
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: I like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And now because I put it into whatever I'm– usually
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's a streaming thing.
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: And I'll put it in. I listen to the same
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: songs every damn day. They're just on in the background.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: I'm not paying that much attention. But I'm like, eh,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: we listen to songs more than once. So we'll throw
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: some extras in here along the way.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: That's right. But I think we've got some nice variety here.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we're definitely mixing it up. But last time we
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: bounced back and forth. This time I thought you've got
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: a lot of specific themed movements. So we'll just let you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: knock yours out and then I'll round it out with whatever,
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: whatever you haven't already covered.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, Basically, one, I got to start this
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: one off the top because I championed this movie. I
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm alone in this or not. I'm
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: sure there's got to be other fans of this movie.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: But before the trick or treat that was done in
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: 2002 that we all know and love, the anthology movie,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: there was trick or treat that came out in 1986.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I saw it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: Again, I didn't go to the movies a ton at
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: that point. So most of what I saw was cable.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: And I definitely saw it on cable that year when
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: it came out. And again, I think even at the time,
• 20:34
  Speaker 6: I appreciated the stunt casting more than anything. I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: it's goofy enough that Skippy's in there. We talked to
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: him about that movie years ago, so that's how long
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: ago this was.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I'm jealous.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Oh, Mark. Anyway, but yeah, the fact that they work
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: in Gene Simmons.
• 20:55
  Speaker 12: Mm-hmm.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Being super cool Gene Simmons. God forbid he not be,
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: you know, cool. More impressively to me was not worried
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: about being cool is Ozzy Osbourne who plays the exact opposite.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: He plays the priest.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: He plays the priest and he is the dorkiest priest
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: trying to keep down rock and roll because it's evil.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: And I was like, that's great stunt casting right there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was perfect.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: You know, the funny thing was that as some of
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the casting goes in this movie, originally for... the Sammy Kerr,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: the dead rock star come back to life. Originally, they
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: wanted Blackie Lawless from Wasp to play this character.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Which has the look.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I can see that. He absolutely has the look. And
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: he was totally on board until the producers told him, oh,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: we're getting fast way to do the soundtrack. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, you realize I have a band named Wasp.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: That's kind of what I do.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I can do my own damn music, thank you very much.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And so he said, see you, bye-bye. And Fastway wasn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: any bigger than Wasp. Like, that's a weird... I would
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: dare say at the time Wasp was bigger than Fastway.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, to me, I don't think I
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: knew of Fastway until I'd seen that movie and went, oh,
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: that's an actual band.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Like, but I knew who Wasp was. Like, that's weird.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Of course, like this movie just, it spoke
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to me on... numerous, numerous levels because I was a
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: metal kid. Was, you know, picked on because of my
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: musical taste at the time when everybody else was listening
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to LL Cool J or whatnot. And I was way
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: into Ozzy and Kiss. So this movie spoke to me
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: on numerous levels because I was a bit of a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Motorhead fan too. I knew that basically like, you know, oh,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: this guy, the lead kind of the guitarist for Fastway
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and who part of the band was named after. He
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: was originally in Motorhead, so this is his band after
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: he left and whatnot. But yeah, interestingly enough, the lead
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: singer of Fastway, 20 years later, goes on to form
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the band Flogging Molly. So yes, Dave King. Odd move. Well,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Dave kind of like basically got very fed up with
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the American rock scene after Fastway kind of dissolved. And
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: they had like their little bit of fame and then
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: it petered out and The band broke up. I kind
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: of jazzed like, yeah. So he got very discouraged about
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: the American rock scene and moved back home to Ireland
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and then started getting back into music and then slowly
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: but surely formed his own band and now Flogging Molly
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: has been more famous, I'd say, than Fastway ever was.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: But it's so funny, like, you can still hear his voice.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have as high of a register that he
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: had in his youth, but you could still hear the voice,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: but he lets the Irish brogue come through a lot more.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Every now and then, fast forward, the way he would
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: say a word or sing a word, I'm like, what
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the hell is that pronunciation?
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Did he use some weird Irish immigrant?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But then I found, oh, he's Irish. Okay, yeah. The
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: way he pronounced the word truth or something like that,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, truth. But yeah, so they... Again, they
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: want to use the music for Fastway. Blackie Lawless says, no,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: thank you. Bye-bye.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: I can't blame him, really. That's not cool.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: And so when they approach Gene Simmons for the movie,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: they approach him to do the Sammy Kerr role. It's like, nah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I don't really feel like doing that. But I like
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: this DJ character over here.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Interesting.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: So they do that. And then they end up getting
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: solid gold dancer Tony Fields. To play Sammy Kerr, who's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: not a metal guy.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: He's got the look, though. Well, he had the hair. Again,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: you create, but just like that persona, too. Like, you
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: can see him doing this very showy frontman thing.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: And it works.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I can see him being in a metal
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: band at the time with that little... Song and dance
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: that he put together there. Sometimes literally.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But it's so funny that basically if you knew going
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: into this movie that originally it was written for and
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: going to be Blackie Lawless, you look at Sammy Kirk
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and go, oh yeah, that's just a cheap knockoff of
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Blackie Lawless. And it was. But I mean, again, I
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: love it. I listen to the soundtrack on a regular basis.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I see the movie at least once a year. But
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: for me, my first thought of any time a horror
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: movie is ending from the 80s, like, all right, you
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: better have a good song in it. And the gold
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: standard for me is always After Midnight. Because the soundtrack
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: was great. You have your opener of Trick or Treat,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: which is a great song. And it's strange because the
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: whole– I think it's like ten songs in the soundtrack.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Two of the songs barely appear in the movie. And
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the band had previously written them for other albums. So
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: like eight of the ten songs actually written were written
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: for the film. The one song, Tear Down the Walls,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: which if you remember the movie is when Skippy's really mad,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: and he's literally tearing all the movie posters down off the.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Very subtle.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: Very subtle, yeah, on the nose there. And that song
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: is about a minute and 30 seconds, so it's literally
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: as long as the scene. So this was specifically written
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: for one scene in the movie.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: We need a filler here for about a minute and
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: a half, so go to town, guys.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: And it's literally about a minute and a half of
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: them just yelling, tear down the walls.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Tear down your posters, Skippy!
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I would love to talk to Mark
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Price about this movie. I really would. But I was
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: always amused, too, that basically years later going, like, oh,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: this movie was directed by Charles Martin Smith. Now, if
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: you don't know that name, if you're familiar with The Untouchables, yes,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he's the little accountant dude that gets killed in The Elevator.
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of weirdness that comes together in that movie.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: But this was his directorial debut. It's also, it was
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: to me, I think, part of what was weird about
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: it was... You're naming it Trick or Treat, and it's
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: not really a Halloween. I mean, it does take place
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: on Halloween, but the Halloween part is so minimal compared
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: to the metal stuff. Whereas you get to Trick or Treat,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: who had to adjust their name, and it's 100% a
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Halloween movie. And there is actually Trick or Treating in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the film.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's about Halloween. This one just, it happens to
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: take place on Halloween. That's a good time to play
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: our song, blah, blah, whatever, but it's not a... halloween
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: movie as much as a look at our cool metal
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: movie and like so yeah i always thought that was
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: weird that they went with that direction for the name
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: and so much of the advertising and marketing when it's
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: like that's not really the kind of movie it is
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: surprising yeah.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah i see it but it is a movie
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: i change yes i know.
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: It's not good I enjoyed it when we went back
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: and watched it for the show. It's pretty fun.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fun, but it is nowhere near a classic.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But you know what? I love the hell out of it,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and I hope you do, too.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Better run, it's a wrecking fire Nowhere to hide, I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: gonna hunt you for the night, yeah You got it,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I want it Pretty soon it's gonna change your skin
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: now So keep knockin',.
• 28:03
  Speaker 12: Keep rockin' I'm gonna.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Get you, get you after midnight, shock you, shock you
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: till the sparks fly. I'll get you, get you after midnight,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: shock you, shock.
• 28:26
  Speaker 12: You till the sparks fly. Trouble, like you've never had before.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Guns won't free her, gonna justify her score. You got it.
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: I want it.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Pretty soon it's gonna change you now. So keep knocking.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Keep rocking. I got the, I got the, here's the cream.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you. Get you after midnight. Shock you.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Shock you till the sparks fly.
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: Get you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 12: Get you after midnight.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: Shock you.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Shocking till the sparks fly.
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: Sparks fly.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I keep knocking. I keep rocking. I got to, I
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: got to hear you scream. I'm going to get you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Keep knocking, keep rocking I got the, I got the,
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: hear you scream I'm gonna get you That's right now I'm.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: Gonna get you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I'll see you next time.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: My next, this is the group here, my first group
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I want to bring up. Nightmare on Elm Street kind
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: of took the ball with the whole let's get a
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: rock song to end our movies and ran with it
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: for like four films straight.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: And just made a whole soundtrack. I think they were
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: kind of on the forefront of that let's put together
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: a soundtrack to help counter you know promote this thing
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: like they had an entire like definitely by the time
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: you get to three like one and two we're busy
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: being you know we're trying to push ourselves out there
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: as a new horror guy this is our new slasher
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: and that did a good job with that but by
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: the time I got three they're like alright we've got
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: that covered people love Freddy Krueger we know that we
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: can we can just ride it out now on that
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: end of it but they wanted that extra you know
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: avenue of like how else can we market it how
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: else can we like get Other, especially, I mean, that's
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: the era of MTV. So it's like if you can
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: shove a music video on there that does kind of
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: a miniature version of your movie, there's a ton of
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: kids that just went, well, now I know what I'm
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: doing this weekend.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go see Dream Warriors.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: And like, that's a perfect example.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Like it's.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Part of the movie and yet they work in the
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: band and it becomes its own other thing like it's
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: not exactly the scene from the movie it's not just
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: a music video with the band it's a mesh of
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: the two that makes you go well now i need
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: to watch that movie and like it was a great marketing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Scheme or if you know who the band is already
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and you're a fan of the band that's going to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: bring you to the table even further so for nightmare
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: on elm street part three dream warriors we got docking
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: which at the time they were very much on the
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: forefront of pop culture and the pop charts.
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: I like.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: And dread the lonely nights I'm not alone I.
• 33:13
  Speaker 12: Wonder if these heavy eyes could.
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: Face the unknown.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Together We're the Dream Warriors Don't wanna dream no more
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: We're the Dream Warriors And maybe tonight Maybe tonight you'll
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: be gone I hear the voices calling out Calling.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: My name It's the same.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Desire To feel the fire That's coming your way I'm
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: standing in the night alone Forever Together Maybe tonight you'll
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: be gone with a dream warrior.
• 35:51
  Speaker 9: Break the spell.
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: Evolution.
• 35:53
  Speaker 9: Found together.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Waiting for you. Dream warriors. Don't want to dream.
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: No more.
• 36:06
  Speaker 12: We're gonna dream.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: And maybe tonight, maybe tonight you'll become King of WarioWare.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: I was already there.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Yep, I had.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I had.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Back for the attack yeah well that was after that
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: i had under lock and key i think i had
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: that for breaking the chains was that the tooth and
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: nail tooth and nail yeah i definitely i had most
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: of those on cassette ask your grandparents what that is
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: kids um so.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: No no kids know today they they know it's retro
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: now yeah it's retro super cool for tapes now crazy yeah.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah i have seen them selling them at like shows
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: and i'm like really yeah this is where we've come
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: yep we're back yeah so yeah i i definitely was
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: a a dork that was into docking so i i'm
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: not gonna pretend like i wasn't and i was already
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: into freddy i'd seen the first two and was like
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: this is the best thing ever these two things that
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: i love have come together and and dream.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Warriors i would argue is still a good song i
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: really like again i liked docking in that era specifically
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: like those couple albums they are pretty solid as that
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: that type of band.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: Again, real metalheads will give you shit for liking them,
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: but I'm like.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: For the type of band that they were, they were
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: really good. George Lynch is a hell of a guitar player,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: so it's like, you put together all of their pieces
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: and you get a really good band. Yeah, and see,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: that's the whole kind of The double-edged sword for metal
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: fans is that we want to shit all over Dokken,
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: but George Lynch, we recognize, is a hell of a
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: good guitarist, and we're glad he left the band.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: I'm like, well, Don had a pretty damn good voice, actually. Yes,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: he did.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: He was kind of like... If Iron Maiden was too
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: scary for you, then here's Don Dokken.
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Because, you know, interestingly enough, Bruce Dickinson is also on
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: this list here. But we get to part four and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: we get to Love Kills from the Dream Master. The
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: credit goes to Vinnie Vincent's Invasion as the band, who
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Vinnie at the time was formerly a guitarist for Kiss
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: for a whole album. and then was fired because he's
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: an egomaniac.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: And kind of rode that the rest of his career.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: He absolutely rode that.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: He will be the first to tell you. He was
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: in Kiss.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes. He was there. But like a lot of
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: seasoned metal guys that didn't sing, they would grab up-and-coming singers,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and then those singers occasionally would go on to form
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: their own bands. Case in point, the singer for this
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: song is a very young Mark Slaughter, who... would later
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: on form his own band.
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: Seems like I've heard of that guy.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, form his own band. cleverly named Slaughter, which is really,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it was an interesting name for a pop metal band,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: because they didn't sound like a slaughter.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, they had the look of your normal metal band,
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: and Plus, he was kind of pretty.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: So that helped them on their videos.
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: He's a good-looking dude, yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: But then on top of that, they, like, advertised themselves.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: The albums looked like they were full-on metal. But, yeah,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: you listen to them, and they're pretty poppy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But, yeah, so they– and I love– Love Kills,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I think, is a great song. And, you know, yeah,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Vinnie Vincent's a crazy ass, but you know what? He
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: can play guitar.
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: So long since I've waited to live again. You've brought
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: my world to an end. Love takes its victim and
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: leaves its remains.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: My broken heart is.
• 40:48
  Speaker 12: Done in vain.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Tell me why have we forsaken the dreams we had?
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Can I love you tomorrow?
• 41:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Whoa, love kills.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: The fire's gone, dying in, but still remains.
• 41:20
  Speaker 12: Whoa, love kills.
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: And now you're.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Gone, could I never be the same?
• 41:50
  Speaker 15: Without your love, life seems so dead and so unreal
• 41:57
  Speaker 15: And now there's nothing left.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: To feel Someday.
• 42:08
  Speaker 12: We'll meet again.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Oh girl, that much I know And now this kid
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: will say hello.
• 42:29
  Speaker 12: My lonely, lonely soul.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: For sorrow's trepid haze Please let me go Oh, you're
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: killed The fire's gone tight Yeah, but you remain Oh,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: you're killed And now you're.
• 42:53
  Speaker 12: Gone Girl, I'd never be the same.
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Whoa, Lock Hills, the fire's gone, dying embers will remain. Whoa,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Lock Hills, and now you've gone, girl, I'll never be
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the same. Lock Hills, and love is just a dying
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: ember in the rain.
• 43:58
  Speaker 12: Whoa, Lock Hills.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Somewhere I have that. And again, I'm not a vinyl person.
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: I've said that many a time on these soundtrack episodes. I, I,
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: Now I like it for the weird stuff you can find.
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: But at the time, it was like so going out
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: of style. Again, cassettes were cool, man. Vinyl, that's what
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: your parents listened to.
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: Lame.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: So occasionally you could pick stuff up super cheap. And
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: I remember I got a cutout version of Nightmare on
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: Elm Street 4's soundtrack that I had. And again, I
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: had my one piece system, if you will, that had
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: a record player on the top and then dual cassette.
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: and a stereo, and it was like the coolest thing ever.
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: So I have listened to that Vinnie Vincent song on
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: vinyl a long damn time ago on that stereo system
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: that I still have, by the way. The volume's jacked up,
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: but I hooked it back up recently and was like,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: I can listen to stuff on this. Not cassettes, because
• 45:24
  Speaker 6: every cassette you play from that era will be eaten immediately.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: But I was like, I did have an input. I
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: jammed my CDs in when I was moving into the
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: Next Generation, thank you very much. So, yeah, I still
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: listen to that stereo. And I have not played that
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: vinyl in quite a while. And at this point, I
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: think it's lost. It's somewhere in a box with my LaserDisc.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: It's exactly where it is. This has been Grandpa Talk.
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: Thanks for tuning in.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is old media meltdown here. But as I said,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: like I said, we had like four movies in a
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: row where they did... Well, actually, not really in a row.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what they ended... uh freddie's dead with
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: but uh for part five this is an inspired choice
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: even though it was strangely credited to only bruce dickinson
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: even though this is technically an iron maiden song but
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: bring your daughter to the slaughter for nightmare part five
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the dream child.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Speaking of slaughter but not mark.
• 46:38
  Speaker 16: Honey, it's getting close to midnight And all the myths
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: are still in town True love and lipstick on your
• 46:46
  Speaker 16: linen Bite the pillow, make no sound And there's some
• 46:53
  Speaker 16: living to be done.
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: Before your life.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Becomes your tomb You'd better.
• 46:59
  Speaker 16: Know that I'm the one Unchain your back door.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: Bring your daughter Bring your daughter To the slaughter Let
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: her go Let her go Let her go Bring your
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: daughter Bring.
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: Your daughter.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: And it's getting close to daybreak.
• 47:52
  Speaker 12: The sun is creeping in the sky.
• 47:55
  Speaker 16: No pain remedies for heartache. Just empty words and humble pie.
• 48:03
  Speaker 16: So get down on your knees, honey.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Assume an attitude.
• 48:07
  Speaker 12: You just pray that I'll be waiting.
• 48:10
  Speaker 16: Cause you know, you know what?
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Bring your daughter to the store.
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: Let her go. Let her go. Let her go. Bring
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: your daughter. So pick up your foolish pride. No going back.
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: Nowhere to wait.
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: No place to hide.
• 49:31
  Speaker 14: Bring your daughter, bring your.
• 49:33
  Speaker 12: Daughter to the slaughter.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: Bring your daughter, fetch your daughter.
• 49:41
  Speaker 12: Bring your daughter, fetch your daughter. Bring your daughter, fetch
• 49:47
  Speaker 12: your daughter.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Let her go, let her go Bring your daughter, bring
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: your daughter.
• 50:41
  Speaker 12: To the sun Let her go, let her go, let
• 50:46
  Speaker 12: her go Bring your daughter, bring your daughter to the sun.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I love this song too, being a Maiden fan.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: But yeah, later on, I think for New Nightmare, Goo
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Goo Dolls had a song, I'm Awake Now. But I
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: can't remember the song. Listeners have to clue us in
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: on this one. They have to look up what the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: song was for Freddy's Dead. I know it was somebody,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: but oddly enough, they didn't pick Alice Cooper, even though
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: he was in Freddy's Dead, playing Freddy's Dad. Which leads
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: me to my next group here. Because Alice himself had
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: himself a trio of not only film appearances in a
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: very short period of time, but also soundtrack appearances to
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: horror movies.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: This is the perfect example of my intro earlier of
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: somebody who is not just a dork themselves. Which, Alice,
• 52:10
  Speaker 6: I love the man. but he's super dorky.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why I love him.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: And yeah, as time went on, I was like, I
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: liked him as the cool, you know, gothy guy that
• 52:18
  Speaker 6: he was, but the reason I loved him even at
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: the time was like, I remember watching him on The
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: Muppet Show and I'm like, Alice, you're a dork and
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: I love you for it. So as you got further in,
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: of course he's the guy that wants to cram himself
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: into horror movies. He loves horror movies. I want to
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: be myself in a horror movie if I can. And
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: why we didn't get like a whole series of Alice,
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: you know, like Elvira. We need like, Alice, you know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: old-timey Hammer movie, and then Alice, the fish-out-of-water movie.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Well, if you go on his Facebook, he's got these
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: little videos he does from time to time. I can't
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: remember the way they call them, like Alice's Scary Stories
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: or something like that. And there are these little animated things,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: and it's him telling a spooky story, but it's got
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: nice music to it, the animation looks cool, so it
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: totally works. I'm like, I would love a whole show
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of these. But yeah, so if you go on his
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: social media, he posts those from time to time. Like Alice's,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what the official name for it is,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: but yeah, but.
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: It's something I need to look for.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I got the pleasure of meeting the man
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: a few years for the pandemic at a convention, and
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: it was a highlight of my life.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: I think I was at that one.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, you were.
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: I saw him. I stood next to the table, and
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm pretty close to Alice Cooper. Actually,
• 53:26
  Speaker 6: he did walk past while we were loitering around somewhere
• 53:30
  Speaker 6: in the aisle by the Rocky Horror People. He just
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: was like, hey, excuse me, and walked right past. I
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: was like, that's Alice Cooper.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I paid for signing in a little conversation with him,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: but he was very talkative. I brought up the Muppets
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: thing because I told him, like, yeah, I loved your
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: music as a little kid, but I'd never actually seen
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: you before until the Muppets, and then you scared the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: shit out of me, and I couldn't watch the episode
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: for years. But then when you pop up for this
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: particular movie, Friday the 13th, Part 6, Jason Lives... Our
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: man is back. That's right. The man behind the mask.
• 54:23
  Speaker 17: You're with your baby And you're parked alone On a
• 54:28
  Speaker 17: summer night You're deep in love But you're deeper.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: In the woods You think you're doing alright.
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: Did you hear that voice?
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: Did you see that face?
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: Or was it just a dream?
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: This can't be real That only happens, babe On the
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: movie screen.
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: He's back.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: He's the man behind the mask.
• 55:01
  Speaker 12: And he's out of control. He's back.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: The man behind the mask.
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: And he crawled out of his mind.
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: You're swimming with your girl Out on Lover's Lake And
• 55:22
  Speaker 8: the wind blows cold It chills your bones But you're
• 55:25
  Speaker 8: still on the make.
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: That's a.
• 55:29
  Speaker 8: Bad mistake Ah, but the moon was full And you
• 55:36
  Speaker 8: had a chance To be all alone But you're.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Not alone This is your last dance.
• 55:45
  Speaker 12: And your last romance. Yeah, cause he's back.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: He's the man behind the mask.
• 55:55
  Speaker 12: And he's out of control.
• 55:58
  Speaker 9: He's back.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: The man behind the mask. Oh, if you see him,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: come and get away if you can Just keep.
• 56:31
  Speaker 12: On running, run as.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Fast as you can He's a dangerous, dangerous man And
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: he's out tonight, and he's watching you And he knows
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: your house Don't turn out the lights Yeah, cause he's
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: back He's the man behind the mask And he's out
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: of control He's back He's the man behind the mask
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: And he's after your soul He's back He's the man
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: behind the mask And he's out of control He's back
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: The man behind the mask And.
• 57:25
  Speaker 12: He's after your soul.
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: He's back.
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: I threw this out and i will just give the
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: because if you didn't get to it i was gonna
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: have to throw it in because i i rarely do
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: i get a chance to tie in with other cast
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: members but i specifically last time sat down with with
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: the uh the rest of the horror gang i was
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: like okay we're doing soundtrack stuff so if you want
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: to and uh Nobody really had anything that they were
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: dying to do. I was like, we can record something
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: if you want. And they were like, no. And then
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: Philip was like, the only one I can think of
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: is the man behind the mask. So that was also
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: going to be Philip's pick.
• 58:16
  Speaker 12: Nice.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 58:17
  Speaker 6: Credit where credit is due. Thank you, Philip, for also
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: throwing that in there. But I figured you were probably
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: going to get to it. So that's why I was like,
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: I'm sure we'll be playing that.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a song, again, I champion this.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I champion it more than I do the movie.
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing. I was never a huge Jason fan.
• 58:34
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: But I, again, this came out as a music video
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: before I even saw the movie. And I was like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: this song's pretty awesome, actually.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: And that was a weird era for Alice because he
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: was getting way more popularized. And like, I think that
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: whole album, even you get something huge like Poison, but
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that's a way more. radio-friendly song than his
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: 70s stuff. It's a different era of Alice Cooper.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Poison came a few years later after Man Behind the Mask. Actually,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: if we were doing this chronologically, I would have talked
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: about Monster Dog first.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Because that was kind of a poignant film in his
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: career because in 83, his label had dropped him, his
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: career was at an all-time low, his alcoholism has gotten worse,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: and so he finally decided to get himself sober. And
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: so basically, he was out for almost a whole year
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: just away from music, away from everything, and... Once he
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: was sober and out of rehab, he got approached by
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: this film company. He's like, hey, you want to do
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: this shitty werewolf movie? And we're going to do this
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: in Spain. And no one's going to see this outside
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: the Philippines. I was like, no one's going to see
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: this thing. So he's like, you know what? That sounds
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: like fun. And he was totally on. He knew this
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: was going into it. It's going to be a crappy
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: horror movie, not a lot of budget, whatever else. But
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: he's like, you know what? I would love to do
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: a crappy horror movie and just get back to work.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: You know, work sober again and just see what that's
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: all like. And, you know, he had a... Some of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: the other actors didn't have as good of a time
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: on the movie as he did. But everybody always said
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: that their experience working with Alice was very positive and pleasant.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Even the director.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: Like, the director apparently was this crazed dude. Like, he
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: chased off some crewman with a shotgun because he screwed
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: up a shot at one point. So everybody was afraid
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: of the director, but everybody loved Alice.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: Sounds like a great film set to work.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: But he had done Monster Dog in 84, but the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: movie never actually saw the light of day until two
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: years later. When initially it was released overseas and then
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: it finally made its way to the U.S. on VHS.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: But it went through a bunch of different names. I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: think in Italy it was named like, gosh. It has
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with dogs or monsters or. It's like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: you know, annihilation or slaughter or something along those lines.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: You know, just one word thing. But, yeah, I mean,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: it is a crappy werewolf movie, but it's got a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: couple of fun twists. But, yeah, Alice plays a rock
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: star in the movie. The two songs he recorded for
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: the film were literally like he was given, I think,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: three days. That's when the best stuff comes together. And
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: he didn't have his band with him because they broke up.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: So it was literally like these were demos he recorded
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: in the hotel and they made it to the final film.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: The demos made it to the final film.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm assuming they're a relatively independent production.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: You just roll with that. And the funny thing was
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: that the majority of the budget for the production was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: to hire Alice as the actor to do both the songs.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: I can see that.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: But of the two songs he did for the film,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: my opinion, the best one and the one that still
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: kind of sticks around for Alice fans is Identity Crisis,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: which opens and closes the film. Because the movie opens with, like,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: you get, like, a couple, like, you know, title screens
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: real quick with some spooky music. And then all of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: a sudden the music kicks in for Identity Crisis. And,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: of course, it's a very strange period for Alice because
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: it barely sounds like Alice singing. Yeah. Because it's kind
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: of a different style. It almost kind of sounds like
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: it's like a Lou Reed, David Bowie kind of experimental
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: kind of song.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: Which I can see him coming from that place, but yeah,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: later it's weird to come back to that sound.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a very interesting sound to it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 12: ¶ class this is.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: I don't need a face, cause mine's been erased. Identity
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: class this is.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 17: Sometimes I'm on a case. Sometimes I'm shooting bad dudes.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 17: Sometimes I'm slashing the face. Sometimes I'm looking for clues.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 17: Breaking the law Sometimes I'm solving the crime I'm always
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 17: fast on the draw I get the goods all the time.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: Cause I got an image out of.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Control Identity crisis is I throw it in the face
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: Cause mine's been erased Identity crisis is.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm James Bond.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 13: Sometimes I'm Billy the Kid.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like Sherlock Holmes.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 12: Sometimes I feel like Jack the Ripper.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: Cause I've got an image out of control.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 12: I can't really cry and sing.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: I throw it in the face, cause mine's been erased.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 12: Identity crisis is.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: Now I got an image out of control.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 12: Identity crisis is.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 9: I throw it in the.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Face, cause mine's been erased. Identity crisis is.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes he's James Bond, sometimes he's Billy the Kid,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: sometimes he feels like Sherlock Holmes, you know, that sort
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: of thing like that. But the video is very much
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: like a literal on-the-nose, here are the lyrics I'm singing
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: and here are these... I've.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 6: Seen the video, I do know the song.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and literally that video is the beginning of the movie.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It is also the end of the movie interspersed with
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: clips of the movie you just saw.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: In case you dozed off or something. Like, oh, here's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: this thing you probably saw a few minutes ago, but
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 6: maybe not.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you were not paying attention for the last
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: 90 some odd minutes, here's a little recap for you.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 6: It's always an odd choice when they go for that one.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 13: It is.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: But, you know, it's like, yeah, we got a couple
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: of good songs and he's not going to officially release these. So,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: you know, we're going to make the best we can. So, uh,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: but yeah, like I said, but yeah, I love it.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Like the whole purpose, like he's going home, uh, back
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: to the middle of nowhere where he grew up in
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: or something like that. Uh, and oh, they're going to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: try to, you know, do some more recording there, maybe
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: do a new video or something like that. But what
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: they don't know is that there is a legacy of
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: werewolves in, uh, uh, Vincent's family. And, uh, Vincent maybe is, uh,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: destined to become the next king of the werewolves and
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: sort of thing like that. So it, Like I said,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: not the greatest movie, but it's kind of fun. It
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: has some charm to it. Another ironic thing is that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: because it's a foreign film, everybody's voice is overdubbed in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: the movie. And I do mean everybody.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: You went and hired a superstar musician to be your
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: lead actor in the movie. He speaks perfectly good English.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: His performance was apparently just fine in the film, but
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: you still decide to overdub him with a guy that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: kind of sounds like Alice if he also came from, like, Boston.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: That's a weird move.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: And Alice didn't come from Boston, but.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: I've always thought it was funny that, and I noticed
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: it at the time in that era. And then now
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: I still looking back at old stuff from that era,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: he became almost like the poster child for like music today.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: And these damn kids, like, I remember the one at
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: the time watching as a kid, watching reruns of, I'm
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: pretty sure it was one day at a time. And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: they were talking about like the new cool music that
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: they were into and And Julia or somebody's like, you know,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: like Alice Cooper. And the joke is, well, who's she?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I'm old.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: I don't get it. That's the go-to for that era.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: And I just this past week, it's funny that now
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 6: he comes up, was watching. And again, this says a
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 6: lot about my life. Back to grandpa talk. I was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 6: watching Barnaby Jones. And I'm pretty sure that was the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: episode that had the weird music crossover. And like the
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: guy that worked in the industry was just like, ah,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: music today. alice cooper's and like that was just the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 6: what is bringing down the music industry was people like
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: alice cooper can you imagine.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: And of course uh let's not forget uh the episode
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: of highway to heaven and quantum leap which were kiss
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: themed episodes like the there was the highway to heaven
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: was a rock star that sort of looked like kiss
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: but he was a solo act and you know he
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: uh You know, kind of did, you know, he wanted
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: to go straight. And then Scott Bakula's character in Quantum Leap,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: you know, jumps into a rock star.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: I kind of remember that one, yeah.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 12: Oh, oh, oh.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: And let's also not forget Sonny Bono on the love boat.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Not doing Kiss, but doing a King Diamond Merciful Fate
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: sort of gig.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: I've seen that one recently, like in the last year
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 6: or so. And I'd never seen it growing up. And
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: I was like, what the hell is this? And again,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 6: of all stunt casting... To go that direction with anyone, sure, maybe.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: Sunny bone.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: But see, but see. It works in its own weird way.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: But what he really wanted to do though. when he
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: fell in love with the girl on the boat, it's like, oh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I really want to do jazz and, you know, standards.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: So he takes the makeup off of the gimmick and
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: puts on a monkey suit.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: And becomes Sonny Bono.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: And becomes Sonny Bono. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Glorious.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: Old timey TV shows. This is what we're talking about.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: God bless them.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: But to round out my Alice Cooper trilogy, I would
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: be remiss if I, A, did not include this song entirely,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: and B, did not include a John Carpenter film on
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: this list because he's the greatest.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah, can't argue with that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Gotta go with Prince of Darkness.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: Featuring Alice Cooper.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Yep, as the lead bum, or the lead grizzly... zombie
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: bum or something like that.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: I've told it on the show before. Do you want
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 6: me to tell the Alice Cooper? My favorite. Maybe more
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 6: than the Muppets show.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: My favorite Alice Cooper story. Again, I'm a young movie dork.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: And I watch Entertainment Tonight all the time. It really
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: wasn't the cheesy thing it became later. In the early days,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: it really was. Like, here we are on the set
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: of this movie. Yeah, it was a good show. It
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 6: was kind of cool when I was watching it as
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: a kid. In the Mary Hart days and John Tashman. Yeah,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: and John Tashman. All the way up through that. And
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: once later, they changed and it got trying to be
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: more flashy and compete with Access Hollywood or whatever the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: hell else came out. But in the early days, it
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: was a pretty cool show if you liked movies and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: TV and stuff like that. And that's why I was
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: watching it. And so one day, it was when Prince
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: of Darkness was coming out, and they're like, oh, and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: here's the new movie, and they show scenes of it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: as they're talking over it. I don't even think they
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 6: show a clip, maybe, but they're showing people, and they
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: show that lead bum guy, and they're like, I'm starring this, this,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: and this, and as that's up there, they say this
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: actor's name. Not Alice Cooper. So the next night, they're
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: back on, and they're like, oh, and we need to
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: make an apology and a correction that we misidentified this guy.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 6: character right here is actually alice cooper um we were
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: told of our error by alice cooper which to me
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 6: in that one moment i was like oh my god
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: alice cooper was sitting home watching entertainment tonight like the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: dork that he is he and i were both sitting
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: at home watching entertainment tonight together because we're both movie
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: dorks that That moment, he was one of my favorite
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 6: people of all time.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: That is glorious.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Alice Cooper watching it and then getting on the phone going, no, no, no, guys.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 12: It's me.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: It's Alice. I'm the bomb. Can you imagine that phone
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: call that came in? They're like, this guy says he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: Alice Cooper. Do you guys want to take this call?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: He says we need to do a retraction? He said
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: we screwed.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: Something up on yesterday's episode. Can you imagine?
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 12: Oh, my God.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: So I don't care how many times I tell it,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: that's the funniest damn story ever.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: That is amazing.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: Yes. That's maybe the best Dallas Cooper we'll ever get
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: right there.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: That is glorious.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 18: Wow.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 12: He fills the.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Light, he fills the truth, he fills.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 12: What's gonna.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 9: Be.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: He spits on life, he spits on God, he spits again.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Darkness Studies the world with hungry eyes Prince of Darkness
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Ready to baptize.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: You in lies Heart of.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: Evil Soul of blackness Prince of Darkness.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 13: The sovereign lamb was just a boy with a baby's mind.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: He swore damnation on God's creation.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 9: He lives for hate. He lives for tears.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 6: He lives up to his name.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 12: He knew the life.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: He knew the one who was crucified in.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 12: We'll be right back.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: Guitar solo He feels the light He feels the truth He.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: Feels what's gonna be He.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 19: Spits on life He spits on God He spits on.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 12: Death for you and me.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 13: Prince of Darkness Studies the world with hungry eyes Prince
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 13: of Darkness Ready to.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Baptize you in lies Prince of Darkness Studies the world
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: with hungry eyes.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: Prince of Darkness.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 10: Ready to baptize you in life So talk next.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: He smells the breath.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 12: Of sweet human syndrome.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 19: And deeply breathes it in Prince of Darkness Hi, I'm
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 19: Patricia Quinn and you're luckily listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 20: Michael Rainey was ill The day the earth stood still
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 20: But he told us where we'd stand.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 15: And Flash Gordon was there in silver underwear.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 7: Claude Rains was the invisible man.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: Then something went wrong for Fay Wray and King Kong.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that was my Alice Cooper trilogy there, but I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: don't take over everything here because I've got a few more, but...
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: The one other I have to include as probably this
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: is not a song, or these songs, actually, it's kind
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: of almost like a one-two punch. But these songs weren't
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: written for Devil's Rejects. But it is probably the greatest
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: use of Freebird I've ever seen in media, period.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: Of course, Forrest Gump aside.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: It's because, of course, like, you know... We're just going
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: to do, I'm just going to move right past that.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to move right past that. Fucking Forrest Gump.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 6: Anyway.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: We got the Firefly family. They're on the run from
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: the cops. They're basically running headlong into a police, you know,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: barricade where all the cops in that area are located.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Ready to gun down these vicious criminals there. And they know...
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Butch and Sundance, they know what's about to
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: go down. They know what the news is. And like,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: all right, we're going out in a blaze of glory.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: And then the first couple bars start coming in like
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: really rob you vicious.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: Bastard rob zombie knowing that especially at that time we
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: pretty much only knew him as a rock star i
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: mean he was he was white zombie and became rob
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: zombie and that was his thing and so of all
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: things even at the time i remember going this is
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: what you're into, Rob? I mean, now I know he's
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: a big super dork, but at the time, I was like,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: he was trying to come off way heavier and edgier
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: in those early white zombie days. So, like, by the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: time we get to this movie, you're like, Leonard Skinner, really?
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 12: But, I mean.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily have that, really. I was very intrigued
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: and delighted at the use of this. This is a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: proper fucking use of this song. I absolutely loved how
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: it was used in there. Of course, they get completely
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: gunned down in the hail of glory. Spoiler alert.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: In case you didn't get around to Devil's Rejects.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's 2005. Get with the program. Frankly, it's Rob
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Zombie's best film. I'm going out on that limb there.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Devil's Rejects is Rob Zombie's best film.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: I have issues with most of his films, so I'm
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: not even going to argue any of it.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: I would still say this. Of all those films with
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: all those issues, especially his two Halloween films, good God,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: don't get me started on those. But, nonetheless, Devil's Rejects
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: is his finest work. Yeah, but just, of course, like,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the big guitar solo happened, and everybody's getting blasted.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just, yeah, that's just a great usage.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: And then after the whole, the seas have calmed, the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: smoke has cleared, we know the Firefly family is dead
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: as disco. Then we get the gentle notes of Terry
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Reed's Seed of Memory coming in. And we get this
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: wonderful helicopter shot going down the highway wherever they were shooting.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure where their location was. It's a great song.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: I love Terry Reed. Being a Led Zeppelin fan, that
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: was the guy who almost was Robert Plant. Like Jimmy
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Page wanted to hire Terry Reed instead of Robert Plant.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: It probably would have been a... I think it would
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: have at least been a more reeled in version. That's
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: what I realized as a grown-up listening to it. I mean,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: Robert Plant is so into himself as the rock god
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: that he is that I'm like, you can't... It's hard
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: to listen to that and not... I still like a
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: lot of those songs, but sometimes it just hits me.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: I'm like, really, Robert?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I woke up from 1968 through 1978
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: as Robert Plant, then yes, I would conduct myself that way.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: Because he was a fucking rock god.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: That is a hell of a time for his life.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: Now he's an old married man.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: He's still out there rocking. He's an experimental rock god.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: But just that one-two punch of those songs.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 12: Brave dreams are like a.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 9: Kindle from last.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 12: Year Rise out of the battle below.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 21: Spread wings over all that he passes So his life
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 21: can stay immortal to.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 22: This country Now the shades of.
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: Green that fall beneath this tree So let the winds
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 7: of change that rearrange the country.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 12: Oh, a seed of memory.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: My name in the blue satin sash, yeah.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 21: Bring love with a song as she passes. So is
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 21: life and stay immortal to the country.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: Let every man.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: Aware of being free. Sometimes when wine is handed to
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 7: me From a face that walked out of memory.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 3: Now that the mountain is burning You wake up in
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: the morning.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 9: Oh, won't we?
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 12: The flowers are giving fruit.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: All the couples are hurt upon the light.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 6: Wrapped dreams that.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: Are kindled from ashes.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Rise out of the battle he loves Spread wings over
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: all that.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 22: He passes So his life can stay more.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 12: Known to the country The shades of.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 7: The green that fall beneath the trees And the winds
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 7: of change that rearrange this country Let it.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: Also show a seed of memory Let it always show
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: a seed of memory Remember, we bought a podcast.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: In Seed of Memory is such a beautiful song anyway,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: but of course it's, you know, kind of got that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: note of like, okay, there's something that's quite unforgettable about
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: this group. And of course, later on, we get a sequel,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Three from Hell, which the whole funny thing was like,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: when I knew this movie was coming out, I was like,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: so like, are they actually coming back from hell? No,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: they survived the fucking hail of bullets. Somehow.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: See, there's a reason I hadn't watched that one yet.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 6: I might have even got a copy of it, and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 6: I still haven't forced myself to watch it.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Here's the funny thing, of course, Sid Haig.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: I love Sid, so that's kind of why I'm going
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 6: to watch it eventually, but I hadn't gotten.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 12: Around to it.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: It's like he didn't survive the movie because he died
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: before the film was made, so his character was killed.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: But the other two, Sherry Moon Zombie and Bill.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 6: Wait, Sherry Moon's in this movie?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: What are the odds of that?
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: I don't give her hate that most people do, Sheik.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: Has specific things that she does well. And who doesn't
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 6: love Bill Moseley, so.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, Bill's great in the
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: movie anyway. Yeah. And then they get, oh shoot, I
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: can't remember the name, the actor's name, but basically he
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: ends up playing like a cousin of the Firefly family
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: or something like that, so. And he wasn't around. Like,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: they basically, they got him in another area. And he's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: I heard all the things. But, yeah, basically, like, you know,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Bill Moseley's character and Shamu and Zombie were like, they
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: were in the hospital for, like, months and months on
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: respirators and shit like that. And they literally come back
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: to life. And then they go into Killing Spree again. So, it's.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Obviously, they didn't see how Thelma and Louise capped it off.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 6: You didn't get a Thelma and Louise 2. There is
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 6: a Butch and Sundance 2, but it's a prequel. You
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 6: gotta prequel it if you're gonna kill them off.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't do anything to enhance it. It's not
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: a horrible movie, but if you really, really enjoyed Devil's Rejects.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: I would say don't. Don't go there.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Don't go there, yeah. But yeah, um i would say
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: probably my my last film that i want to talk
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: about just because this is would be the most recent
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: one but um another old song that was not written
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: for the movie but i think just totally fit um
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: i was severely impressed with insidious Going into it, I'm thinking, okay,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: I knew James Wan was behind this. I was like, okay, well,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: you've got some talent behind here. You've got a good cast.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 6: As we've recently discussed, he knows how to make a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 6: horror movie.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm like, okay, this is another possession movie or
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: another spooky sort of thing like that. And then when
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: you get into the meat of the movie, you're like, oh, shit.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: They're doing an astral plane movie without Doctor Strange. And
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: that's where the shit's coming from. that's fucking great. And
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: the way they depict the astral plane in this particular,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: it's like, that's fucking great. So I was just totally
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: just impressed with the twists on it. That did not,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: it would, if you hit me with a twist like
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: that and I don't see it coming, then kudos to you,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: you know, filmmaker, because you, you got me. Uh, and
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: I love getting got. So yeah, I was just thoroughly,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: thoroughly impressed with that. And then you close out the
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: whole shebang with the sounds of Tiny Tim's Tiptoe Through
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: the Tulips. Which, how this was a pop song and
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: not like, why are you not arresting this man because
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: he's probably got people in the basement. But good God,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: this is a creepy ass song.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 12: Tiptoe by the window, by the window, that is where
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 12: I'll be.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 14: Come tiptoe through.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: The tulips with me.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 12: Oh, tiptoe by the garden, by.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: The garden of a blue tree. Come tiptoe through.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 12: The tulips with me.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: In flowers we'll stray, we'll keep But shall we make
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 4: a way And if I kiss you in the garden
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 4: In the moonlight will you pardon me And tiptoe through
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: the tulips with me.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: Baby, in flowers.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 12: With strain we'll keep.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: Love shall always win.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 12: And if I kiss you.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: In the garden, if the moonlight will be part of me,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: I'm tip-top through the tulips with me.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: He was a weird dude.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 6: Um, I, it is one of those, like you could
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 6: see it being a novelty song. Like I could see
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 6: it if it only ever played on Dr. Demento.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: Then I'd be like, Oh yeah, that that's a perfect
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: place for that song. But the fact that like, it
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: was a legit song on the radio and he was man,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 6: the career, he was a, yeah, he was a real
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 6: celebrity at that time. I mean, he's on the tonight
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: show for his nuptials. Like it's, Every weird big publicity
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 6: stunt that they had at the time, you were going
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: to tie in some Tiny Tim.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: He was an oddity in himself, and people booking him
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: on shows knew that.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was. I mean, yeah, he is the novelty celebrity.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, we didn't have reality television yet, so he
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 6: was the closest equivalent. He's a weirdo, and we all
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 6: know it, and this is going to be a train wreck,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: and that's why we booked him.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Watch this.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: But it's weird that it all came from that song, essentially.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 6: Because what other song can anybody name that Tiny Tim did?
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 6: Pretty rare if anybody can come up with any of them,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 6: let alone something other than Tiptoe.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Through the Tulips. I can name three, including Tiptoe, that
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: are pop songs that feature a ukulele. Raindrops Are Falling
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: on My Head would be the other one. And then
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: the Hawaiian dude that did the Somewhere Over the Rainbow.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 6: I love the ukulele, but it does not get worked
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: in a ton, specifically in pop songs.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: For good reason. But, yeah, but it just, you know,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: the movie itself was just extremely creepy. You kind of had, like,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: you know, when you would see, like, some of the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: demonic faces and, like, you could almost picture them singing
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: the damn song. But, yeah, just... you know, okay, you know,
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: we're tipping toe through the tulips of the astral plane,
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: you know, and I completely, you know, just, yeah, I
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: just love it. There's a great, I just, It was
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: kind of the same way that seeing the end of Seven,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: and of course you're getting hit with all this shit,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: and Gwyneth Paltrow's head's in the box, like, oh my god,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: and Kevin Spacey's the murderer, dude, oh my god. And
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: then the credits start rolling, and they're rolling the wrong
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: fucking way. And then we get the sounds of David
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Bowie's The Heart's Filthy Lesson. I'm like, that's an end
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: credit scene that fucked me up too. But yeah, when
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: tiptoe through the tulips start coming up, like, you sons
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: of bitches. You got me. I loved it.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: Well, that one again is a sort of modern movie
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 6: using an older song.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 6: If we're handing off the baton here.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: We are.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 6: I went, as we got into this, it wasn't the
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: first one that occurred to me. But as I was
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: going over the list, I was like, oh, well, I
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 6: have to work this in because I'm pretty sure this
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: is the first time this moment ever hit me. And
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: it's in an 80s movie, but it's an older song.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: But I remember as a kid, and it explains a lot,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: that as a kid I was watching American Werewolf in London.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 14: Mm-hmm.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 6: And the credits just from horror show in front of
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: you to credits and Blue Moon. Mm-hmm.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 12: And I.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: Liked that song. I actually had at the time, somehow
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: we in the basement, there was a stack of 45s
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 6: that like somebody had given to us. I don't even
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 6: know how we came about them. But the one that
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 6: I had that I remember I really liked was this
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: Marcel's one. And I think it was tied to that.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know which came first, but I was like, wait,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: don't I have that song? Or vice versa. But I
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: remember having that and then playing it on, again, a
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: record player, folks. And that was my tie-in to it.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: It was like, oh, yeah, this is the end of
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: that werewolf movie. And it's one of the few times
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: I remember that moment of like, oh, I see what
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 6: you did here.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 12: Mm-hmm.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: Like you capped it off with a song that, ha ha, perfectly,
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 6: I get it. It's a joke in and of itself,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: just using that song. And now that's what every director does.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: Like now it's a signature move for so many directors.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 6: And this was one that I guess led the charge
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: with that because Landis thinks he's pretty clever. Because throughout
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: that entire movie, then I was looking at the credits
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: earlier and I'm like, okay, so we've got Moondance, Van Morrison.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: Bad Moonrise in CCR. And both the Sam Cooke and
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 6: Bobby Vinton Blue Moon.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 8: Yep.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 6: Before we get to the Marcells.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, he thinks he's real funny, that John Landis.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 23: Blue moon, you saw me standing alone Without a dream
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 23: in my heart Without a love on.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 12: My mind Blue moon.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: You knew just what I was there for You heard
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: me saying a prayer for Someone I really care for
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: And then they suddenly forgive before me.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 12: The only one my heart would ever hold.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: I heard somebody whisper, please, adore me.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 12: And when I look, the moon is.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 9: Dead to go.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 12: Oh, blue moon. Now I'm no longer.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 9: Alone.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 12: Without a dream.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 9: In my heart.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 12: Without a love of my own.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 9: Thank you. Thank you.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 12: Thank you.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: But, I mean.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: You're doing kind of the quintessential werewolf movie. I'm sorry,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: has there been another werewolf movie that has topped American
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Werewolf in London since its release?
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: In what sense? Impact or.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Impact in quality, in cultural relevance, anything.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 6: I like Cursed. I didn't see that for years. I
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 6: finally watched it and I'm like, this is a fun movie.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 6: I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: It was fun.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: It's fun. It's fun. It's fun.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 6: Wes occasionally just likes to have fun.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: But if we're talking about... The kind of horror movie
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: that all other horror movies seem to come from or
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: are heavily influenced by or when we refer to a
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: certain type of a subgenre of a horror film. Like
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: when we talk about zombie movies, we talk about Night
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: of the Living Dead. We talk about Dawn of the Dead,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. We talk about werewolf movies
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: unless we're talking about fucking Lon Chaney.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: So I was going to say there are two eras.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: We're talking old.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: Timey werewolf man shaped person or full on giant wolf
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: version which that was the coolest thing. I just got
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: a copy of it. I haven't watched it in forever
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 6: and I ran across it for cheap and I was
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: like do I have this?
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 12: I don't know.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: I'm buying it anyway because it's also the one that
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: has the full on documentary on it with it that
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: I want to go back and rewatch. But it is
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: amazing that creature that they created for it number one
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: because you never really saw a werewolf like that before
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 6: then but um aside from that i mean everybody goes
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 6: on and on about the effects rightfully so they're amazing
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: but that was also that moment in time because it's
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 6: the same year as the howling yes which i feel
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: like is the other version of that the joe dante
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: doesn't have the same budget as you so we're not
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: going to get the full-on effects that you are.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: But we're going to get really cool stuff. We're also
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: getting a really good werewolf movie. So yeah, I think
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: that 81.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: Is just like the, that's where you go for like
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: that turning point in werewolf movies. It's like, you know,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: you've got Lon Chaney jr. And then years and years
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: of just people kind of knocking that off until you
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: get to 1981. And then like between the Howling and
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 6: American werewolf in London, like nothing's ever going to be
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 6: the same for werewolf movies again.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. And I love too, that John Landis loves
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: throwing in, dirty jokes as an Easter egg in his movies.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Most notorious would be the film we're never going to see,
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: See You Next Wednesday.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 12: Yep.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: Which would be, I guess, the sequel to See You
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: Next Tuesday. But, you know, if you know what that means, folks,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: take out the front letters there.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 6: It's a dirty one.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 12: Landis.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: I would give him more credit, but we all know there's.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: Issues with Landis as a filmmaker.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 6: I love it.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: See You Next Wednesday pops up. It's been an action movie.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: It's been a porn film. It's been a love story. Yeah,
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: just love it.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 6: Again, he was somebody who just loved that. Growing up
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: on schlock. literally like that was the kind of stuff
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 6: he wanted to do. And he got suckered into making
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 6: these comedies that did really well. And then they're like, well,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: what do you want to do now that you have
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 6: millions of dollars to blow on something? And he's like, Oh,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 6: I'm still waking my world movie. Like I've been working
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 6: on this one in my head for years.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: He literally did a movie called schlock.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. That's where he started. And then
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 6: like eventually came around and was like, I'm going to
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 6: make my werewolf movie. And yeah, He sure did.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I say it's just, you know,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: the makeup in the film, you know, won numerous Oscars.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: It started, you know, careers for people. Yeah.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 6: And brought not just acceptability, but like prestige to effects,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: you know, where we were all still watching horror movies
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 6: and we still love that stuff. But like nobody really
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: cared in the official sense. But once it got that
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: kind of recognition that the Oscars are like, OK, this is.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: amazing and groundbreaking and we're going to make a special
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: award for you. Then people were like, oh, this is
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: like a real industry. Guys have been doing it in
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: the kitchen for years, throwing shit together to be like,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 6: this is going to be the blood. Finally, it got
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: some sort of notoriety and respectability.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: Of course, as far as films go, in 1981 when
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: this movie came out, we had never seen a transformation
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: like that on film before. I mean, Lon Chaney's stuff
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: was done in, like, dissolves. You know, we'd never seen
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: an in-time transformation from man to beast, and that was
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: just horrifying. But, of course, there's so much... There was
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: some cool shit in this movie, too. I mean, like,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: the whole dream sequence.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: I think that's what everybody remembers outside of the transformation scene.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 6: If you ask most fans of it, they're like, and
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: then that one dream sequence, and, like, that's the... the
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: weird cutaways that people like have stuck in their head.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Because like, you know, for the writer to like delve
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: so much, like let's get into like his subconscious, like he,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: his subconscious knows he's transforming into this beast and who
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: he was and what he was before is gone, you know,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: sort of thing like that. So the student who's at
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: home and with his family and all that, nah, he's,
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: he's fucking killed, you know, and we're going to slaughter
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: the whole family too. Everybody's dead, you know? And in
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: his mind, it was, werewolf nazi zombies yeah like with
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: machine guns like.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 24: All right whatever you say yeah but yeah i figured
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 24: that was the first time i remember this happening with
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 24: credits and so i was like well we gotta work that.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: In yeah it's it's a it's a striking moment.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 6: So my next go-to and probably the one that i
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: was most again as we started talking about this it
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: was the first one that came up in general when
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: we were just talking about in credits And then it
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 6: was also, once we switched to horror, I was like, okay,
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 6: well now I can work that in, assuming one or
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 6: the other of us doesn't grab it. I'll definitely have
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: to get to something from Scream, speaking of Wes earlier.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 6: What's weird is, as I said with the last of
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: these episodes, the way I remember it is not always
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: the way it is. To this day, when I hear
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 6: the song First Cool Hive.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 6: I think it's a credit song. It's a Moby song
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: and it's very cool. It was kind of that era.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: Moby was on a ton of soundtracks at that time.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: And like, this is one of those weird ones that
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: just got worked in there. It's not at all in
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: the credits. It's worked into the, it's featured pretty heavily in,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: in that definitely that first movie it's on the soundtrack,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: but it is not a credit song.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 6: So then, yeah, I was like, well, we've got, what
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: it actually ends with that first one is I do
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: think that first soundtrack is, pretty great. Like I love
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: that Gus song. Like I've definitely worked other stuff in
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: over the years, but like that first one is just
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: really solid. So like I could go with anything off
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 6: of there, you know, as far as stuff that I
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: really like on a tight end soundtrack kind of thing,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 6: but it ends with, um, whisper to a scream by Soho,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 6: which is a cool, again, I remembered that from the soundtrack.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 6: I did not remember. That's what kicks off the credits.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: So I was like, there's that to work in.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 25: Love comes down upon us and it flows like water,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 25: burning with a hope of insight, feathered books, the colors
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 25: of a bright elation.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 23: Stolen in the sight of love. We are, we are,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 23: we are, we're just children finding our way around. are
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 23: other helpless faces forever whisper to me.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 25: Birds fly in the eye of a faithless daughter spoken
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 25: at the bitter end wasted sacrifice for the noon.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 14: Of honor.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 23: We are, we are, we are all the helpless. Take
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 23: this forever. Whisper to the screen. Whisper to the screen.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 23: Whisper to the screen.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: With tattoos, with tattoos With tattoos, with tattoos With.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: Tattoos I don't know. Like I went back and forth.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: Cause then I started looking at the sequels. It's also
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 6: not on the end of any of the sequels that,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 6: that weird movie song. So that one was just like
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: worked in there and, and became, but it, that series
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 6: has such a, a just overarching kind of not just story,
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 6: but things, you know, it's like it creates its own
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: little universe there. So then there's like, since it has
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 6: its own theme song, It just is worked in as
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: a song in the middle of the movies for the
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 6: first two. But the third one, not only do they
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: round it out with Red Right Hand, but he writes
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 6: new lyrics for it.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 26: Yeah.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 6: I was like, I guess if we have to get
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: something in that's from the credits of the Scream, what
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 6: is now a quadrology or franchise. Now we've trained, tanned
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: it off and have a fifth one. And that song
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: is featured in four out of five of those.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of become the franchise's signature song.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it is our theme song, essentially. Definitely for that
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 6: original trilogy, and then they brought it back in this
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 6: fifth one. So, yeah, it's become... It's come to represent
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: the entire Scream universe, more or less.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: It was probably the entry point for everybody for Nick
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Cave if you weren't an indie music fan.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: See, yeah, I already had definitely murder ballads, and I
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: already knew the song from other stuff, but it was
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: weird when I was like, oh, that's that song, because
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 6: I was already listening to Nick Cave. But it was
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 6: cool that it got worked in that first movie, and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 6: then it was almost weird that it became the theme song.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 6: It was a pre-existing thing, but it became the theme song.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 6: And now, as I went online, it also is Peaky
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 6: Blinders tie-in, which I had not watched, so I didn't
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 6: know that. But that became, I think, their intro song.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 6: I think it was like the theme song for that
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 6: show for several seasons. So I was like, interesting. All right.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: But I'm all about Nick Cave getting more money.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: So yeah, Nick Cave seems like a pretty awesome guy
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 6: and knows how to write a song. So it was pretty,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 6: you know, I think that was kind of like a
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 6: thank you from both of them. It's like, thank you
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 6: for letting me use your song. And he's like, okay,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 6: thank you for making me huge because of it. And
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 6: you know what? I'll write you a whole new version
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 6: for number three. So yeah, this is the readjusted version
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 6: of Red Right Hand for actually it's, credited on IMDb
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 6: as Red Right Hand 2 when it goes on the
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 6: Scream 3 soundtrack there.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: So....
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 5: Take a little walk to the edge of town.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Now spread your wings and fly. Don't the lights of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: the city look so damn.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 11: Pretty when you.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: Fly so high?
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 20: It's hard to know that down below The streets, babe,
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 20: are swimming deep in.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 12: Blood It's enough to.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 5: Make me groan and cry You really wanna know what's
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: wrong with this land?
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 17: Just scratching your head with your red right hand.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 27: You see, everyone's a liar, baby, that's the truth. Said
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 27: everyone's a liar.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: Baby, and I got proof. You got a new boy.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 20: You feel you're in with a chance You think you're
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 20: in his arms but you're in his hands They still
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 20: seem so cute and true Groovy But to get that
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 20: boy up on the stand And to watch.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 12: Him raise his red light hand.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, move your hips, baby, or move your eyes. I
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: use your lips, baby, to.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 12: Conceal his cries.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 27: He's a trace in a tiny finger down your spine.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 20: He's leaving behind a thin red line.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 27: Don't get so safe when it all comes down so heavy.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: A low wind moans.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 6: Across this land As he.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: Rips your chest with his red right.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 14: Hand Thank you.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about blood, babe.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 5: It's in your veins.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 27: Your mommy and daddy, they've got the same.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 17: You're under the mirror day after day. You see a
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 17: pretty face crumbling away.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 27: As you become your mom and daddy Scream once, scream twice,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 27: now scream again Cover that face with your big bright.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 9: Hand Thank you.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 12: Bye. Thank you.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 6: And then I had to because I brought it up
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 6: I was like damn it I know I worked this
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 6: in on that episode but that was 11 years ago
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 6: and I don't give a rat's ass I one of
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 6: my favorite ending songs and one that's so perfectly balances
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 6: out the movie many people have problems with the fourth
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: scream I think there's a lot of good stuff in
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 6: it but that final song is one of my favorite
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 6: things about that movie Bad Karma which is done by
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 6: Ida Maria. Didn't really know her beforehand, but it kicks
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 6: in really hard as those credits roll. And then as
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 6: the lyrics go on, I'm like, yeah, specifically for what
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 6: goes on in this movie, this is the best possible song.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 6: I love some bad karma.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 28: You better believe in karma Baby, it's gonna sting The
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 28: wheel of life's gonna do you in So I don't.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 12: Really have to do a thing You took.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 28: Me out of my money You messed.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 12: Up my love life and my career.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 28: You better believe and come on.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: Guess it's gonna start getting weird right here.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 12: But come on.
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 12: Baby, that's what you got. Better come on.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 12: Do you believe it or not?
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 21: Bad karma's a bitch You.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 28: Better believe in Jesus Cause only he can save you
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 28: now Throw in a saint or two, I dumped ya
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 28: Three Hail Marys and a Hare Krishna.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 12: You made me drink.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 28: The Kool-Aid You tricked me into thinking I'd kill me
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 28: instead You're the firstborn of.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: The devil But even he ain't taking you.
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 12: Back, back, back, back. Come on. Yeah.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 9: Maybe that's what you got.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 4: Bad.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 3: Come on. Yeah. Do you believe it or not?
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 12: The universe is going.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: To get you.
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 12: You'll be scratching the surface. It's just my opinion.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 12: Bad karma's a bitch. La, la, la. Better believe and
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 12: come on. Just look at the sorry shape you're in.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: There's a doll with your name and your gloomy face.
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 12: The Department of Doom with a rush on your case.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 12: You better believe in voodoo, babe.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 26: I got a long list of your sins.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 12: There's a word you might have heard called payback. And
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 12: I'm running out of pills.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 9: Come on. Yeah.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: Do you believe it or not?
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 12: The universe is going.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 3: To get you. You're stretching to save your life.
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 12: And that's just what I think.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 12: Mad Karma's a bitch. Mad Karma's a bitch.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 3: Mad Karma's a bitch.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 12: Mad Karma's a bitch.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: I gotta go back and watch Scream 4, because I
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: haven't seen the new one. I know you all have
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: talked about it on the show previously, but I haven't
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: gone and seen the new one, and I think I've
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: seen Scream 4, but I don't remember anything about it.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Is that the one that got Hayden Panettiere in it? Yes. Okay,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: that's what I remember about the movie, and that's about it.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 6: And she's pretty great. I do like her. She's a
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 6: nice addition, and I... Again, my issues are what happens
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 6: with the story and what I wanted to happen with
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: the story versus what actually happens in the movie.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I remember the killer in one is the
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: two boys and the killer in two is the mom.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: The killer in three is the long lost brother. But
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 2: I can't remember who the killer in four is.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: And I'll let you rediscover it.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, great.
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 6: Thanks. Now, again, I think that's my only issue with it,
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 6: as I wish he would. And I said this at
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 6: great length on that episode and have said it since then.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 6: I do wish he would have changed things up. I
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 6: feel like it falls into the screen mold almost too
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 6: perfectly as the other three. So it's like I wanted
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 6: him to change things up. But we do get a
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 6: great reveal, a great whatever goes on with the killer.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 6: I'm not even going to go into that. But if
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 6: you haven't seen it, it's amazing. And the way that
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 6: it sort of rounds things out. I was just bored
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 6: with the older characters. I'm like, for the love of God,
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 6: have we not killed off Courtney Cox yet? Please!
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: I know, right?
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 6: And even Nev, I love her in the movie, but
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 6: I was like, you could mix things up. You could
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 6: take her out. And like, it doesn't happen. We all
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 6: know she's in this last movie. But, yeah. So I
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 6: think that kind of stuff, I was.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 6: Familiar with a little too much but i think watching
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 6: what goes on in the movie each scene because i
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 6: re-watched it i think a year or two before the
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 6: next one came out and like all of those individual
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 6: scenes are so good like still i'm like west that
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 6: was towards the end of the run and like he's
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 6: still just so good at putting together these scenes and
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 6: like making a great horror scenario and like each of
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 6: these little moments is like perfect on its own and
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 6: you put it together. And sometimes it's not as good
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 6: as an overall thing. So it's, it's got issues again
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 6: with where the story goes, but I think those scenes
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 6: are terrific and there's some great performances. So one of
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 6: my favorite things though, is the ending song.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: I gotta go back and see, see that one and
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 2: then check out the new one, which it irritated me
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 2: that of the three leads they bring back for this
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 2: new screen film, The one they kill off is David Arquette.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you kidding?
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 6: See, that's what I said. I went and I said
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 6: this the fourth one. I said this the last episode.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 6: I was like, that's the one I wanted to carry
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 6: on because that was my favorite thing out of these
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 6: is he seems like he's dead at the end of
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: the first movie.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 6: And like he comes back and like he keeps getting
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 6: more injured. He's like limping and his arms messed up.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 6: And so like by the time we get like, I'm like,
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 6: once you get to four and five, You can kill
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 6: off Nev. You can kill off Courtney.
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 2: And, like, the only thing that should carry on is
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 2: this grizzled old dude that's probably not even a cop
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 2: anymore just following them around the country wherever the hell
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 2: this new scream.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 6: Thing pops up. There's Dewey showing up again. Like, I'm like,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 6: that's a great legacy to bring into this. that's not
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 6: what happens but i i like the idea if.
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 2: I had my way with the series i would have
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 2: done the you know the the fake out with killing
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 2: dewey in the third one actually killing gail in the
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: third one i.
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 6: Said that definitely by the time of the fourth one
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 6: i was like there's a perfect scene to kill her
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 6: in the fourth one and they go about it all
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 6: weird so.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah see i would have yeah i would have killed
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: off gail in the third one because they did they
• 2:06:24
  Speaker 2: were they were you know Making the relationship a little
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: more real or something like that. I think they proposed
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 2: to each other in the second one. I don't know. Anyway.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I would have killed her in the third one.
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 2: And then to make a statement for the fourth one. Like,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 2: this is a new thing. A new generation. We're trying
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 2: to start this up again. Whatever else. Kill Nev off
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: in the fourth one. Beginning of the movie.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 6: Again, I really like what she's done. And even in
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 6: the new one. I think she shows up and does
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 6: great work.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 6: But for the overall story, I think that would have
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 6: been an interesting way to mix it, especially the way
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 6: they round out the fourth one. I think there's a
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 6: whole new direction they could have taken it, and they
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 6: stick to the usual stuff. I get it. It's a
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 6: safe cookie-cutter way to do these horror movies.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 2: You don't want to stray too far from it.
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 6: He's made a fortune off of it.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: One other thing, too, is that it would have been
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: a big deal because you had all your stunt castings
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: for the beginnings of the movie, and that was the
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 2: first person to get killed off. Drew Barrymore in the
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: first one, Jada Pinkett in the second one, you know,
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: that sort of thing like that.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 4: Cotton.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 6: We kill off cotton.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like, wouldn't that have been a big deal
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: to start the fourth movie killing off your supposed lead?
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: Very Argento of you, Mr. Craven, but nope.
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 6: I think so.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: You went safe, which I got a feeling if he
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: had made that choice, probably some producers in the studio
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 2: may have said no.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm sure he probably wrote it that way and
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: they were like, we can't kill off our lead. Yes,
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: we can.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: You keep saying you got something for me there's something you.
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: Call love but confess.
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 18: Hi, this is Crispin Glover, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 6: All right, well, if we're going 80s slashers, and then
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 6: I was going through different options earlier, and I was like, well,
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 6: let's do one that's a little off the beaten path,
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 6: as was the movie. And my theory, which I made
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 6: on an episode a long time ago, was the one
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 6: that arguably maybe killed 80s slashers movies, April Fool's Day. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 6: Which I loved at the time. And then as I
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 6: went back and revisited it, I was like, it does
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 6: all these things that just piss off horror fans.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 6: To the point that you don't really... Can you think
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 6: of any big slasher movies that weren't part of a
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 6: series that comes after April Fool's Day? Maybe Chucky. And
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 6: I don't really think of him as a real slasher.
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 6: But everything gets goofy and silly the further you get
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 6: into the Chuckies and Leprechauns and stuff down the slasher path. And, like,
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 6: I feel like that was the dividing line, is after
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 6: April Fool's, they were like, screw this.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: Like, it just doesn't... Things did start getting a little
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 2: more ridiculous.
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it rubbed old school horror fans the wrong way.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 6: At the time, I don't feel like people liked it.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 6: Even now, I feel like there's a lot of people that, like,
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 6: it sort of got a resurgence and people changed their
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 6: minds on it, maybe. But, yeah, I think it's one
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 6: of those that just rubbed people the wrong way as
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 6: a horror movie goes.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 4: But.
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 6: of it not taking itself seriously at all, even within
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 6: the movie, then you get to the credits and it
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 6: does Too Bad You're Crazy, which is sung by Jerry
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 6: Whitman and is memorable, if nothing else.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 11: Too bad you're crazy Too bad you're loony as.
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 6: Hell So long.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 29: It could have been swell together Too bad you're wacko.
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 29: How sad your marbles are gone. We could be dancing
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 29: till dawn, but you're too weird for words. How did
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 29: you get so strange? You were such a beautiful kid.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 29: Now you are so deranged. Was it mom and daddy?
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 29: Something I did?
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 12: Too bad you're no-no.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 6: Too bad.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 12: You shouldn't be locked in a cell.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 11: Ha, sad, you're great, but hey, what the hell, you're crazy.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 12: You're off the deep end.
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 11: Your life's a practical joke. I'd bail you out, but
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 11: I'm broke. Your brain's completely fried. Life's just a party
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 11: trick to you. Clown jokes and lots of booty do.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 2: It's time to put that.
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 14: On the shelf.
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 12: I'm a little bit crazy myself.
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 6: But certainly needs to be the end of any horror
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 6: movie of a bunch of craziness going on. This is
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 6: the theme song you need.
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 2: God, that's a movie I haven't seen in like about
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: 30 odd years. But man, yeah, talk about a dividing
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: line there. Yeah, because definitely that was kind of a
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: late period one there. But I mean, like your 90s period,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: like there was a lot of experiment. Like, let's try to,
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 2: you know. start this off. Let's try to start this off.
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 2: And really, like, you know, Chucky and the Hellraiser were
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: probably your best franchises to come out of that late 80s,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: 90s period. But then you had, like, Shocker. And you
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: had Brain Scan. And, um, God. I mean, there was,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: you know, Wishmaster.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 6: They kept trying to get these things going. And sometimes
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 6: they did. They made a bunch of Wishmasters. But, like,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 6: does anybody really think back as, like, It's my favorite
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 6: horror movie of that era. No.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: If you're a Wishmaster fan, I'm sorry. Let me introduce
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: you to a couple other movies. Maybe you're just getting
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: to see a lot.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 6: Didn't you see Warlock? I mean, you could have been
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 6: going down the Warlock path.
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 2: See, I dug Warlock, though. The sequel's not so much.
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 6: I have not watched it since the original time.
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: The OG Warlock is good. The sequel's not so much.
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 6: I just remember that's another one of those that got
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 6: a bunch of sequels. And I was like, did anybody
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 6: watch any of these? How does it keep getting sequels?
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 6: Chewing Sands has nothing else to do I guess well
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 2: They made like four house movies and two of them
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: have nothing to do with each other and two of
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: them weren't even released in this country so it's like
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: wait a minute.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 6: Oh you know and.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: Troll 2 has no trolls.
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 6: Let's come on it's a classic though honey is breakfast ready?
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 6: uh well let's see of of my recent one the
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 6: only thing that came up and this was weird because
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 6: it came up as after we'd already discussed this i
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 6: was like piecing stuff together of what we were gonna
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 6: do and then i'm watching this movie for the show
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 6: and then i'm listening to the credits and i'm like
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 6: I know that voice. What is this song? And I
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 6: somehow had not gotten around to the movie until we
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 6: watched it for the show. This is Dead Silence, and
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 6: the closing song is actually, it kicks off with instrumental stuff,
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 6: and it's going along, and then halfway in switches gears
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 6: to Who's Holding You Now by Jeanette Napolitano.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 12: Are you in the arms of a stranger?
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 22: It's dangerous the way I'm feeling So disconnected, so rejected
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 22: Staring at the ceiling from the side of the bed
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 22: Remembering things that you said And now you're saying to
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 22: someone else I am.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 12: Ready to scream. This is all a bad dream.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 22: And I am beside myself.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 3: Who's holding you now? Who's holding you now?
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 9: Who's holding you now?
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 26: I'm holding the arms of a stranger It's dangerous the
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 26: way I'm feeling.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 22: So disconnected, so rejected Staring at the ceiling From the
• 2:17:20
  Speaker 22: side of the bed Remembering things that you said And
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 22: now you're saying.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 12: To someone else I am ready to scream This.
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 22: Is all a bad dream And I am beside myself
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 22: Who's holding you now?
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 12: Now.
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 6: So, I loved Concrete Blonde, and if we're going back
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 6: old school, yeah, she's the main reason. I also think
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 6: there's another guitarist who has such an amazing signature sound
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 6: of that time period and just what he did so well. So, yeah,
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 6: I loved all of their stuff back in the day
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 6: and then, like, hadn't seen much from her or the
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 6: band or anything in years and then was watching Dead
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 6: Silence for the show. And that kicks in and it's
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 6: a song that she co-wrote and is vocals. So, yeah,
• 2:18:32
  Speaker 6: I was just one that came out of nowhere that
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 6: I was like, well, this is interesting, mostly just because
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 6: I love Jeanette and I want to get back into
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 6: I want more stuff from her.
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, Concrete Blonde, some great songs, of course. They had, like,
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: you know, for anybody that's a fan of any kind
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: of vampires, one of the best vampire-themed songs ever that
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 2: could have been used for numerous movies.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 6: And has yet to be used.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 2: And really wasn't, yeah.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 6: Bloodletting is amazing. That whole album is phenomenal. That's great. But, yeah,
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 6: that is, like, the signature song for any goth kid
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 6: out there. It certainly was at the time, but. still
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 6: they never got crossover like mainstream. Like they had one
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 6: song that most people knew. And other than that, nobody
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 6: knew anything else by them. And then I don't know,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 6: they just didn't last long enough to come back around
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 6: for another, you know, second take at it.
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause, um, I, uh, if we may remember of
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 2: any RPG fans there, uh, it may still be around.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but there used to be a, uh,
• 2:19:31
  Speaker 2: RPG called vampire, the masquerade. Yeah. That's kind of the,
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 2: the white wolf game started this whole, uh, franchise with
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 2: like you know horror monster themed stuff but Vampire the
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: Masquerade was the franchise.
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah it was hugely popular when it started yeah.
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 2: I was with a group of people where we would
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 2: do live action Vampire where like we you know would
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: you know run around the park or run around somebody's
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: house or you know yards like that and we were
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: acting out our characters well before every single game we
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 2: had to listen to Bloodletting nice yeah so I was
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: like it just got everybody in the mood so I
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: was like yeah it was a great song there but.
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: I like the deluxe version I bought an import single
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 6: just to get that. It's got this extended intro. It's
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 6: got these sound effects worked into the background that are
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 6: super creepy. So yeah, that's an even.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 2: Better way to go.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 12: Nice.
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 6: Look for that if you're a gothy dork. All right. Well,
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 6: we've been through a lot, so we got to round
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 6: it out. But before that, I wanted to at least
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 6: some shout outs, if you will. You're lucky that I
• 2:20:31
  Speaker 6: didn't round out the episode with the one I saw today.
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 12: Uh-oh.
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 6: As I was getting the notes ready for this episode,
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 6: I'm also watching Teen Witch. Which I knew by reputation.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 6: Somehow I had never seen it. So I was just like, well,
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 6: I can't not watch this. I mean, it is legendary.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 6: There's not a... girl of a certain age that didn't
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 6: grow up loving this movie. So I've been told.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 12: My wife being one of them. There you go.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 6: So I've been told. So yeah, the big scene at
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 6: the dance at the end.
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: Is Finest Hour. So I could have gone out on
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 2: some Finest Hour. Not the spookiest of songs, so I
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: thought I'd spare you that.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 6: But I enjoyed it more than I expected, actually. It's
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 6: a pretty standard... made-for-TV, aimed-at-kids kind of a movie, and
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 6: you didn't get a lot of girl leads at the time, so, like,
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 6: it was fun.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: And also in the era of Satanic Panic, to depict a,
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 2: you know, child with, you know, supernatural abilities as a
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 2: positive and light character or whatnot, it somehow worked. It
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: was kind of like a Sabrina the Teenage Witch knockoff.
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: But it comes, like, it just becomes your standard high
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 2: school movie where, like, the dorky kid becomes super cool
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: and then ignores their friend and realizes they've become the thing.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 6: They hated most. Like it's so typical, like high school movie.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 6: I was like, well, of course she's going to do that.
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 6: Of course she's not talking to her nerdy friend now.
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 6: She's super popular. I was like, this is, you can't
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 6: hate on it. And again, it's a time honored tradition.
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 6: This is how you make these movies.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 12: Of course.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 6: So I didn't go down that road. You're, you're welcome.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 6: But I did, there were ones that I had played
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 6: before that I was like, I've mentioned on many occasions
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 6: somewhat recently, as we were discussing on the Fright Night episode,
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 6: I do love the 99 Problems version that they did.
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 12: Oh, yeah.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 6: That I think I always called a cover, but really
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 6: other than those couple of lines is not really a
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 6: cover song.
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 6: Hugo does their own weird thing that just kind of
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 6: borrowed from the.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 2: pre-existing though the original jay giles has its charm too.
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 6: That is yeah we were discussing that coming into this
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 6: episode it was like i forgot that was jay giles
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 6: but that is a great sound like a jay giles
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 6: great tie-in for fright night and i do love the
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 6: song even though it does not sound like jay giles
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 6: right um the one that i've played maybe the most
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 6: i i'm pretty sure i played it on the episode
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 6: i played it on a soundtrack episode years ago it
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 6: is my go-to for this kind of taking an old
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 6: timey song and making it fit your creepy thing And
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 6: this movie's creepy on a couple levels. The theme song
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 6: at the end of Jeepers Creepers is hush hush here
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 6: comes the boogeyman. And it is a creepy song mostly
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 6: because it sounds like a creepy old timey song.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 28: Yeah.
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 6: But if you listen to the lyrics at that point
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 6: and I went back and like found the year and
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 6: like it's an old song. So to be as creepy
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 6: as it is and like as openly you know hey
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 6: kid this is all about the boogeyman and like it's
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 6: Very frank, and it's weird. Again, at the time, I
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 6: guess it depends how far back you go, but before,
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 6: you know, pre-code days, they did whatever the hell they wanted,
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 6: and things were creepy if they needed to be. So, yeah,
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 6: for as old as it is, it is a very
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 6: creepy song made extra creepy by its attachment to Jeepers Creepers.
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: And they were making Jeepers Creepers creepy already in the
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: movie itself.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: You get two old-timey songs for.
• 2:24:07
  Speaker 6: The price of one. Because Jeepers Creepers is the way
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 6: it opens, I believe, and then it rounds it out with,
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 6: you know, here comes the boogeyman.
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: You hear the song a couple times.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he plays it in his creeper lair.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there is a new one, which I almost got
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 6: a copy of to watch this weekend and haven't gotten
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 6: around to it. So I have not decided what I
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 6: think of this new reboot of Jeepers Creepers.
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: I've been curious. I saw that it existed, so I
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: need to check it out. I'm more interested in the
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: Hellraiser remake than I am.
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 6: The Jeepers Creepers. I am too.
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I still want to check that out. So that's true.
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: A couple movies I have to give shout-outs to that
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: weren't initially on my list that are great ending songs.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: You've got to go with The Lost Boys, the Echo
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: and the Bunnymen cover of People Are Strange. We hear
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: it earlier in the film, but then it also ends
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: the film as well.
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 6: It is pretty awesome.
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: And it's an amazing cover. There was probably a period
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 2: of time where people didn't realize that was a cover
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: because the doors are kind of.
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: They had their popularity in the 60s and a little
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: bit in the 70s, and then when the Val Kilmer
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: movie came out in the 90s, All your 90s kids
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: suddenly were Doors fans.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 2: And so they got their rise in popularity. But in
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: the 80s, the Doors were probably like almost forgotten by
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 2: at least the youth culture.
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 6: That was the lull. And when I was kind of
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 6: getting into them. Again, I think every teenager, probably every
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 6: teenage boy gets into that era of like suddenly they
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 6: discover this Jim Morrison thing. And he's so deep and meaningful.
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 6: And then you realize he's just a weirdo. He's a
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 6: drunken rock star. I'm amazed at him for what he
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 6: brought to the table for being not a trained singer,
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 6: hadn't even been in a band. He came out of
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 6: nowhere and then had this... charisma and this voice and
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 6: like everything that he brought to the table is pretty
• 2:25:52
  Speaker 6: amazing for somebody who did not set out to do that.
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 6: So I don't know.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 6: Points to him.
• 2:25:57
  Speaker 2: An interesting story.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 6: But I do like his inclusion in the Lost Boys
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 6: because at that point, the main thing most people knew
• 2:26:04
  Speaker 6: about him was his death and like his mysterious death
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 6: and his untimely death and like everything about that. So
• 2:26:11
  Speaker 6: the fact that these vampire kids are, were so like
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 6: taken with them that they have the giant banner of
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 6: him in their cave.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 6: That I was like that one, two punch of like
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 6: putting in a doors cover, having them. And he's like their,
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 6: their God almost on the wall there that they, you know,
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 6: pay tribute to the, the rockstar gods of, you know,
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 6: the olden days.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: The sixties. Exactly.
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I always liked that little inclusion that he
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 6: is honorary member of the undead. I would say so.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: And then lastly, one song I can't believe I didn't
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: include in my list because it fits so well. And
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: it just, if you're even further familiar with the actor
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: in question here, then it just, it makes it even
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 2: more beautiful. But the Willard remake that starred Crispin Glover
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 2: and ends with a cover of the Michael Jackson classic, Ben,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: sung by Crispin Glover.
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 6: Oh, Crispin is a musician.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 2: In quotations, we will put him as a musical artist, yes.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 6: Now that you've thrown it in there, you've already heard it,
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 6: because I will put it in any chance I get.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 6: Our promo with him, I featured a version of him
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 6: doing These Boots Are Made For Walking, which Don in
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 6: the style only Crispin Glover could do.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 2:27:32
  Speaker 6: He's a special, special guy.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: I mean i'll i'll give some uh some props to
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: ruben and ed that's a charming little film um but
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: um yeah um willard's interesting um it couldn't it i
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: could have gone a little stranger uh with that but
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: in in It was also too bad they used too
• 2:27:52
  Speaker 2: much CGI in that film.
• 2:27:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. That's many a problem. A lot of movies.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: But I'm watching this film, and I'm thinking, okay, well,
• 2:28:00
  Speaker 2: I know there was the Michael Jackson song that came
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: with the OG version. Will they... And that's the funny thing, too.
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: It actually came with the sequel.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: Not the original Will.
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 3: Not the original.
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 2: It came with the sequel.
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 11: It's Ben.
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and hence the name, which was also really weird.
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, so it's a horror movie, and then
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 2: the sequel is basically... Kind of a horror movie, but
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 2: it's more of a children's film.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 6: And then ends with a love song.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 12: Essentially.
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 2: And ends with a love song to a rat.
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 6: Very strange.
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: A love song from a boy's perspective to his rat. Okay.
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but then so, but in a great, great
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: bit of stunt casting though, we decided, you know what?
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 2: We got Chris McGlover here. We got a song about
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: a rat we can do.
• 2:28:45
  Speaker 6: You know what, Chris? What do you think, buddy?
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 2: And, uh, Yeah, and we get Crispin Glover covering Michael Jackson.
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 2: And he does a... He doesn't weird it up or anything.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: He does a note-perfect cover.
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 6: Which is not always what he does as... Discussed by... But.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 2: Except if you know the guy, if you watch the
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 2: movie and you hear the songs, it all still is creepy.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be creepy to just still be creepy.
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 6: It's creepy, but in a different way than you expected.
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could see he was trying to sound sweet,
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 2: but it's like, yeah, you're going to kill the rat
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 2: at the end of the song or what, man? It's like, yeah,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 2: you're just... Yeah.
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 6: Even you trying to sound sweet comes off creepy, dude. Yeah,
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 6: it really does. It's just kind of how you roll.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 2: You know, your biggest song was about clowns.
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 6: It's terrifying.
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 6: The other one, as I was going through, I forgot.
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 6: I went by. I was like, is that how it ends? Yeah,
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 6: the Evil Dead goes out with the Charleston.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 6: The original Evil Day. And I was like, that is
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 6: a weird move for that movie. And then I was like, well,
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 6: it was probably in public domain by then because he
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 6: had no money.
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 6: So I was like, yeah, that's probably why it goes
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 6: out on the Charleston.
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 2: Well, that movie was so, like, we didn't get into
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: the severe craziness that number two was.
• 2:30:08
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: But number one was pretty gonzo in itself. I feel
• 2:30:11
  Speaker 2: like it's disturbing. I still stand by that first one
• 2:30:15
  Speaker 2: as a great horror movie. Oh, yeah.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 6: Two and the third become silly comedies almost, but it's
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 6: not a comedy that first.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 2: No, no disturbing.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 6: Many of what the different scenarios we have thrown at
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 6: us are really horrifying.
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: So, and of course a lot of the makeup and
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: the effects that were done in that film are, were
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: so crudely done that they looked disgusting even further because
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 6: It gave it a realism that you weren't expecting out
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 6: of this movie.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: And still, my favorite shot of the entire Evil Dead
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: franchise exists in the original. is when he's looking in
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: the mirror and talking and laughing like that, and then
• 2:30:53
  Speaker 2: he puts his hand through the mirror and it's water.
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 2: And it just freaks him the fuck out like that.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: How on the $ 5 they did, how did they do
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 2: that shot?
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 6: Most of that stuff just looks so good. You would
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 6: not think it for the budget that they had, for
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 6: how long it's been. It still holds up for me.
• 2:31:13
  Speaker 6: But again, I have different standards than some, but I
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 6: think that all still holds up.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:31:18
  Speaker 2: To end with a Charleston.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 3: That was great, yeah.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 6: It's pretty strange.
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: So there are many others. There were a few that
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe we'll do another version of this. But
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: I was just trying to find something that had a
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: good way to round it out. And this one is
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: from a movie that it was of an era of
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 2: Let's Do remakes.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 6: And it was not a popular movie at the time.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 6: I now, and we've discussed wanting to cover it. So
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 6: we're probably somewhere down the line going to watch it
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 6: and do a whole episode on the movie. But also taking, again,
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 6: trying to be super popular, bringing in popular actors, and
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 6: then going out on a super popular band. House of
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 6: Wax ends with Helena by My Chemical Romance. So as
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 6: I was going through, I was like, well, so long
• 2:32:06
  Speaker 6: and good night. That's the only way to round this
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 6: thing out. But yeah, that was one of those, it
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 6: was that era of like, enough that it, again, That
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 6: same era of post-April Fool's Day, horror movie fans were
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 6: just angry for years. The slashers were dying. The things
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 6: that came to take their place outside of Scream were
• 2:32:29
  Speaker 6: mostly just cast a bunch of teenagers from popular things
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 6: that are on TV right now, throw them in usually
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 6: a remake of something that we really liked. I don't
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 6: know how many people really saw The House of Wax
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 6: that said they were horror fans or... 13 Ghosts or
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 6: House on Haunted Hill, like all of those that came along.
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know that they really considered them reverent,
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 6: but somehow it was a slap in the face the
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 6: way that they did them, which I don't know. I
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 6: think some of those hold up all right. Yeah, I mean, definitely.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: Like in the 2000s era, the early 2000s, your only
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: franchise of note was the Final Destination franchise.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: And, I mean, not all those films are great, but
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: some of them are good. And the concept itself. The
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 2: concept is amazing. Yeah, the concept. Your villain is death itself. Yeah,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, that's a great concept.
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 6: And putting into play, like, any scenario you enter in,
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 6: you then have to be like, okay, wait, how am
• 2:33:23
  Speaker 6: I going to die?
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: Like, you start.
• 2:33:25
  Speaker 6: Playing that game as the characters come into it. And
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 6: then you carry it over into the real world. Whereas now,
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 6: I can't tell you how many times I've seen people, like, specifically...
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 6: send photos as they're on the highway of a log
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 6: truck to the writer, and they'll be like, dude, I
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 6: can't see one. You've ruined me. Like, you've messed up
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 6: my whole life because I can't ride on the highway
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 6: because this log truck is going to get me in
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 6: a weird.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: It's going to break suddenly. The log's going to go
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 2: through my front windshield. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 6: It's just a Goldbergian machine is going to come about
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 6: that takes me out. And that's how every one of
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 6: those scenes happens. It's like you enter in and you think, oh,
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 6: that thing looks pretty deadly. That's probably, nope, this thing
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 6: over here is going to kill you. So the fact
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 6: that it created that, yeah, that was the franchise. Those
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 6: are pretty impressive for what they are. They get ridiculous
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 6: as well, but the idea is amazing.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's funny, too, because you've got, like,
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 2: you know, so many ways people go out that are
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 2: very typical. You know, somebody dies slipping in the shower.
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: Somebody dies, you know, falling face first on the stove
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 2: or something. You know, people die in a plane crash.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: People die in a roller coaster accident. But the one
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: thing of the movies that always we remember is that
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 2: fucking log truck. And was that the second movie?
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 6: That's the second movie, yeah. It's not even the original movie.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the sequels.
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 6: It's still written by Jeffrey, and he came up with
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 6: that concept while being stuck in traffic, driving back home
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 6: to visit mom, I think, and was just like, man,
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 6: what if that log truck just became one of the
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 6: most memorable scenes ever?
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. That scene just sticks with you
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: so much, more so than a lot of the others do.
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 6: That one, again, to have that kind of impact on
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 6: people's lives just by making your silly horror movie.
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. And a very typical thing we all see
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: on the roads all the time is those big old
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 2: log trucks or big semis or whatnot.
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 6: And it's just waiting there for you.
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 6: Much like our impending wrap-up.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 9: Indeed.
• 2:35:31
  Speaker 6: Much like death itself. It's waiting for us somewhere down
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 6: the line. It's coming for you.
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 2: All ends are inevitable, including this show.
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 6: But again, I feel like we skipped a whole bunch.
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 6: So we can come back and do another round of this.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 2: Or we can just do.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 6: An overall horror movie one. So we can revisit this territory.
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sure I can come up with a few more.
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 2: There was a couple in our last episode that I
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 2: didn't get to use. That y'all thought were some interesting
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 2: stories and whatnot. But that's the fun thing too. Some
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 2: of these songs actually have some fun stories behind them
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 6: So we can definitely come back to this. Basic idea
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 6: or even the specific version of it and just get
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 6: ones we didn't hit.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I will definitely give some recommendations since we're
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 2: in spooky season. For the theaters, I mentioned Barbarian earlier.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 2: That's definitely worth checking out. Smile is really good. Great tension. Like,
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 2: it's more of a supernatural sort of, you know, theme
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 2: film than a slasher or, you know, monster or anything
• 2:36:32
  Speaker 2: like that. But it does a great job of building tension,
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 2: building suspense and atmosphere with not a lot happening. And
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 2: I can't remember her first name, but Kevin Bacon's daughter
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 2: is the lead in the film, and her performance is outstanding.
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 6: Bacon's made quite a few horror-overtoned... Sometimes not out and
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 6: out horror, but he's done a lot of stuff that
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 6: borders on horror or edges its way into horror, whether
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 6: it meant to or not.
• 2:37:01
  Speaker 2: He's done something like Stir of Echoes.
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 6: Hollow Man is disturbing on a couple of levels.
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hollow Man. He's got a new one over there
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: on Peacock, They Them, where it's like a conversion camp
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: or something like that, except everybody's homicidal. But then if
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: you don't want anything that's more horror. You want something
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: that's a little more fun. Disney Plus has got the
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 2: Marvel Werewolf by Night and I will say if you
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 2: are not a superhero fan, if you have no desire
• 2:37:32
  Speaker 2: for any of this stuff, I still highly recommend checking
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 2: this out. It is done in the traditional kind of...
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 2: you know, universal monsters kind of feel. It's in black
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 2: and white, and it is not beholden to anything in
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 2: the MCU. So if you don't know any, you don't
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 2: know an Avenger from a Spider-Man from an Iron Man
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 2: or anybody like that, then you can go in this
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: movie completely ignorant and will enjoy yourself. And it's an
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: isolated thing. It's barely an hour long. So yeah, it's
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 2: the first in a special presentation that they're going to
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 2: do where they have these little one-offs i think we're
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 2: gonna see one later this year with the guardians of
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 2: the galaxy holiday.
• 2:38:09
  Speaker 6: Special i kind of like these ideas it's i guess
• 2:38:12
  Speaker 6: if they didn't have their own platform to do it
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 6: on these things wouldn't exist so i like that they're
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 6: kind of making use of that that we can get
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 6: a holiday special or that we can get like these
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 6: weird little also almost like again it's like something that
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 6: wouldn't happen theatrically but now that they have a way
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 6: to deliver it to people because they're they own everything Yeah,
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 6: they can bring us these weird little offshoots. I was
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 6: trying to think. Oh, like the what-ifs. That kind of
• 2:38:40
  Speaker 6: thing could never really fly as a movie.
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But in these little smaller bite-sized things, it's pretty cool. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a great way to introduce different sides
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  Speaker 2: of the Marvel Universe or new characters or whatnot in
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  Speaker 2: fun and creative ways. And this does a great job
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  Speaker 2: of introducing basically a trio of Of Marvel, you know,
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  Speaker 2: supernatural themed heroes here. But yeah, tons of fun. Great
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  Speaker 2: for the Halloween crowd. Of course, I mean, you want
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  Speaker 2: to go the Hocus Pocus 2 route, you know, for
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  Speaker 2: the family friendly stuff. Sure. But if you want something
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  Speaker 2: that's got a little more meat on its bones, but
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  Speaker 2: still somewhat safe for maybe the older kids, not the
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  Speaker 2: little ones, but maybe the older kids.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 2: The Werewolf by Night. Highly recommend that one.
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  Speaker 26: All right.
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  Speaker 6: There's your recommendations. From the fanatic himself. Well, with all that,
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  Speaker 6: so long and good night. And I will once again
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  Speaker 6: remind you, get a life. We'll provide the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 12: We are so far from home.
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  Speaker 21: It's a very fast day So long and goodnight So
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  Speaker 21: long and goodnight Came a time When every star Fall
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  Speaker 21: brought to the tears.
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  Speaker 3: Again we are The very hurt you sold.
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  Speaker 21: And what you worship From.
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  Speaker 3: Every heart you break And like a blade you'll stand
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  Speaker 3: While I'm holding on tonight What's the worst thing I
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  Speaker 3: can say Since I've been with my state So long
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  Speaker 3: and goodnight So long and goodnight So long and goodnight.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: It's a dead man's party over here.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, there we go. I think we already worked in our...
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  Speaker 6: Last time we worked in our... Oingo Boingo tribute, so
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  Speaker 6: we can find another way to get him in there.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like that Danny, he's been involved in movies.
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  Speaker 2: He's done one or two.
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