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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm Chris Hansen right now on Crime March Daily. From
- 0:02Speaker 1: here in New York City, a.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Killer is on the loose in a quaint New England town.
- 0:15Speaker 3: You had no idea the terror she would face.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Seven victims lured into a so called murdermobile, their killer
- 0:22Speaker 2: taunting police in a game of catch me if you can.
- 0:25Speaker 4: The most notorious serial killer in the state of Connecticut's history.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Today, How this hard nosed investigative author got a killer's confession?
- 0:35Speaker 5: Who is this monster? Who has yet to be arrested?
- 0:39Speaker 2: And we get a frightening glimpse into the mind of
- 0:42Speaker 2: a monster from behind bars.
- 0:46Speaker 3: You think that you still have the killer in you?
- 0:49Speaker 1: Then Nightmare on Prospect Street. A teenage girl comes home
- 0:54Speaker 1: to a chilling surprise. Behind your bedroom dwarf, a stalker
- 0:58Speaker 1: waits with a knife and guests.
- 1:00Speaker 6: Felix insane?
- 1:01Speaker 2: Did you think you would die today? Jekyll and Hide
- 1:05Speaker 2: with a dangerous obsession and the secret that lit the fuse?
- 1:09Speaker 6: She knew that he would go into attack mob.
- 1:13Speaker 7: Right now, go, let's go Jason Mattera with Prime Watch Daily.
- 1:16Speaker 8: I'm miss also going up from Crimewatch Dailey.
- 1:18Speaker 7: Yes, let's be smart from Crimewatch Daily.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It's Ana Garcia from Crime Watch Daily.
- 1:23Speaker 9: You got anything to say?
- 1:24Speaker 2: He is crime Watch Daily.
- 1:26Speaker 6: What do you mean you don't know?
- 1:26Speaker 2: If she's thirteen, you're running away?
- 1:28Speaker 10: Now.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Welcome to crime Watch Daily. Everyone, I'm Chris Hansen.
- 1:34Speaker 1: We start today with a rare glimpse inside the mind
- 1:37Speaker 1: of a serial killer, as a self confessed monster who
- 1:40Speaker 1: left a trail of bodies in Connecticut talks for the
- 1:43Speaker 1: first time about his horrible crimes. Our Nurse and Night
- 1:46Speaker 1: is here now with our top story, the Murdermobile.
- 1:50Speaker 7: Chris William Devin Howell has told people there's a monster
- 1:54Speaker 7: living inside him, and when you hear some of the
- 1:56Speaker 7: horrible things he's done, it's hard not to agree. The
- 2:02Speaker 7: bodies are piling up.
- 2:05Speaker 6: A seventh victim has now been positively.
- 2:07Speaker 7: Identified, seven dead in six months.
- 2:11Speaker 4: The most notorious serial killer in the state of Connecticut's.
- 2:15Speaker 7: History, and now the murderer responsible Connecticut's most prolific serial
- 2:20Speaker 7: killer is spilling his secrets.
- 2:22Speaker 9: It's not like it was a thief that was driving
- 2:25Speaker 9: me to commit these crimes.
- 2:27Speaker 7: Crime Watch Daily speaks to the real life mind hunter
- 2:30Speaker 7: who got inside the head of the madman.
- 2:33Speaker 5: He would confess and detail all of his crimes to me.
- 2:37Speaker 7: And then we talked to the killer himself.
- 2:40Speaker 9: The fantasy was about just raping. I killed him to
- 2:45Speaker 9: try to cover up my crime.
- 2:48Speaker 7: It's late summer when a hunter makes his way into
- 2:51Speaker 7: the central Connecticut woods. The bush and weeds are thick,
- 2:54Speaker 7: but there's an open patch just ahead and something has
- 2:58Speaker 7: been unearthed.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Hunter I was behind here looking for a place to
- 3:02Speaker 5: hunt and found the first skull.
- 3:06Speaker 7: But not the last. When New Britain police arrive on scene,
- 3:10Speaker 7: they quickly uncover what appears to be a mass grave.
- 3:15Speaker 7: Buried within the mutilated remains of three women.
- 3:19Speaker 6: They were somebody's loved one.
- 3:21Speaker 11: They were somebody's daughter, somebody's sister.
- 3:25Speaker 7: The first body to be identified is that of fifty
- 3:28Speaker 7: three year old Diane Cusack Jane Doe. Number two is
- 3:33Speaker 7: found to be another local girl, twenty three year old
- 3:36Speaker 7: Javelin Martinez, just weeks away from her twenty fourth birthday
- 3:41Speaker 7: when she disappeared. The third and last of the remains
- 3:45Speaker 7: to be idd are those of forty year old mother
- 3:48Speaker 7: Mary Jane Menard. As it turns out, all three women
- 3:52Speaker 7: disappeared during the same six month time span, years before
- 3:57Speaker 7: a time Mary Jane Menard's daughter, Tiffany, will never forget
- 4:02Speaker 7: she was.
- 4:02Speaker 6: The rock of the family.
- 4:05Speaker 7: Tiffany, just eighteen at the time, still relives those final
- 4:09Speaker 7: moments with her mom leaving.
- 4:11Speaker 5: My house by say goodbye and we hugged and never
- 4:16Speaker 5: thought that it would be the last time I saw her.
- 4:19Speaker 3: He had no idea, no idea the terror she would face.
- 4:24Speaker 7: According to a witness, Mary Jane, Menard was last seen
- 4:27Speaker 7: getting into a quote black or blue van being driven
- 4:30Speaker 7: by a man named Bill. But that appears to be
- 4:33Speaker 7: as far as the investigation got, and for years the
- 4:37Speaker 7: case seems to live on only in the occasional article online.
- 4:43Speaker 7: That's when local attorney turned true crime writer Anne Howard stumbles,
- 4:47Speaker 7: or rather clicks, her way into the story.
- 4:51Speaker 5: I was researching online about some cold case murders not
- 4:55Speaker 5: far from where I lived, and every time I researched,
- 4:58Speaker 5: this story about bodies being found behind a strip mall
- 5:03Speaker 5: in New Britain, Connecticut kept coming up on my newsfeed.
- 5:07Speaker 7: Anne can't help but wonder.
- 5:10Speaker 5: Who is this monster who has yet to be arrested
- 5:14Speaker 5: for the murders of these people being found behind a
- 5:17Speaker 5: suburban strip mall on a busy roadway, not far from
- 5:21Speaker 5: where I live, and I started a blog about it,
- 5:24Speaker 5: and I started researching cold cases and unsolved murders. The
- 5:28Speaker 5: blog evolved into writing solely about this case.
- 5:33Speaker 7: While digging into the story on her blog entitled serial
- 5:37Speaker 7: Murders in Connecticut, hand starts to wonder if those three
- 5:40Speaker 7: bodies are the only bodies, Especially when another local crime
- 5:45Speaker 7: catches her eye.
- 5:47Speaker 6: I became quite intrigued.
- 5:49Speaker 7: It's the disappearance of thirty three year old milsa Erismindi
- 5:53Speaker 7: from the neighboring town of Weathersfield, Connecticut, and it happened
- 5:57Speaker 7: during the exact same time period that the other three
- 6:00Speaker 7: women disappeared. But that's not the only similarity.
- 6:04Speaker 11: Her boyfriend told police that he last saw getting into
- 6:07Speaker 11: a van.
- 6:08Speaker 7: A dark blue van to be precise. But unlike the
- 6:12Speaker 7: other women, Nils's case has been solved.
- 6:15Speaker 11: Information was developed with respect to a van matching the
- 6:18Speaker 11: description given by Nils's boyfriend. That van was registered to
- 6:23Speaker 11: Dorothy Holcombe. It was learned that miss Holcomb's boyfriend was
- 6:27Speaker 11: named William Devon.
- 6:29Speaker 7: Howell, and according to his girlfriend's parents, Hall had recently
- 6:33Speaker 7: purchased the van from them for four hundred dollars.
- 6:37Speaker 11: Processing the van revealed a bloodstain on the vertical back
- 6:40Speaker 11: cushion of the middle seat.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Of the van.
- 6:43Speaker 7: Police send it to the State crime Lab for testing,
- 6:46Speaker 7: and when the results come.
- 6:48Speaker 5: Back, DNA of Aris Mendy was found in his van.
- 6:51Speaker 7: William Howell is arrested in connection to Nils's disappearance. Even
- 6:56Speaker 7: though cops don't have a body. Howell takes a plea
- 6:58Speaker 7: deal for Man's law and gets fifteen years. But then
- 7:03Speaker 7: that was before police found those other bodies.
- 7:07Speaker 5: Red flags are all over it coming up. He would
- 7:11Speaker 5: duct tape their mouths so that no one would hear
- 7:14Speaker 5: them making any noises.
- 7:16Speaker 7: A serial killer revealed, along with more victims, and later
- 7:21Speaker 7: what happened?
- 7:22Speaker 3: What made you cross the line?
- 7:24Speaker 7: The predator speaks from behind bars, telling me why he's
- 7:28Speaker 7: unlike any who's come before.
- 7:31Speaker 9: This may make me even more sinister, But.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Police have discovered one skull after another behind a Connecticut
- 7:40Speaker 1: strip mall, all the victims murdered.
- 7:42Speaker 2: The prime suspect, a guy who ran a long cutting
- 7:45Speaker 2: business out of his van. William Howell, our nurse and
- 7:48Speaker 2: night is back now with more.
- 7:51Speaker 7: The mutilated bodies of three women are discovered buried in
- 7:54Speaker 7: the woods. Behind a strip mall in New Britain, Connecticut.
- 7:59Speaker 7: At the same time, I'm a man by the name
- 8:01Speaker 7: of William Howell is serving out a prison sentence in
- 8:04Speaker 7: connection to the disappearance of thirty three year old Milsa Arizmendi.
- 8:08Speaker 12: The person we believed to be a suspect.
- 8:11Speaker 7: Howell is suddenly named as a suspect in the other murders.
- 8:15Speaker 5: How did confess his crimes.
- 8:18Speaker 7: Prosecutors say While in prison, Howell confessed to his cellmate
- 8:22Speaker 7: Jonathan Mills, and according to Mills, he tells him a
- 8:26Speaker 7: terrifying tale about his alter ego, the sick ripper who
- 8:32Speaker 7: picked up women in what he called his murdermobile and
- 8:35Speaker 7: buried them in the woods behind a mall. When cops
- 8:38Speaker 7: get word of this killer confession.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Additional human remains were located and recovered.
- 8:45Speaker 7: Tragically, investigators unearthed four more bodies that brings the body
- 8:50Speaker 7: count to seven, six women and one man.
- 8:53Speaker 10: We knew that they were not just Jane does that
- 8:56Speaker 10: they were somebody's loved one.
- 8:58Speaker 11: They were somebody's daughter, somebody's sister.
- 9:02Speaker 7: Soon the coroner identifies the additional victims as twenty nine
- 9:06Speaker 7: year old Melanie Ruth Camalini, forty four year old Danny
- 9:10Speaker 7: Lee Wisnett, twenty six year old Marilyn Mendes Gonzalez, and
- 9:14Speaker 7: thirty three year old milsa Eris Mendi.
- 9:17Speaker 5: The prosecutors had six out of seven DNA samples of
- 9:21Speaker 5: the victims in his van.
- 9:23Speaker 7: William Devin Howell is charged with multiple capital felony murders.
- 9:28Speaker 7: It's an unprecedented crime, giving him an unprecedented title.
- 9:33Speaker 4: The most notorious serial killer in the state of Connecticut's history.
- 9:38Speaker 7: Then, in a stunning turn of events.
- 9:41Speaker 6: William Howell decided that he didn't want a trial that
- 9:44Speaker 6: he was prepared to plead guilty.
- 9:46Speaker 7: Howell admits to the savage murders in the back of
- 9:50Speaker 7: his murdermobile while he awaits sentencing, and Kay Howard, who's
- 9:55Speaker 7: been blogging about the case, reaches out to the murderer.
- 9:58Speaker 5: And I told him I was interested in writing a
- 10:00Speaker 5: book about him, and, much to my surprise, two weeks later,
- 10:04Speaker 5: William Devin Howell wrote back to me.
- 10:07Speaker 7: Over the next several months, the serial killer and the
- 10:10Speaker 7: attorney turned author exchanged numerous letters, which the killer gives
- 10:15Speaker 7: exclusively to Anne for her book.
- 10:18Speaker 5: I was introduced to a man that the public has
- 10:21Speaker 5: not seen in them.
- 10:23Speaker 7: Howell describes his grisly killing spree that took the lives
- 10:27Speaker 7: of seven people in just six short months. And what's
- 10:31Speaker 7: significant about where we're standing right now.
- 10:35Speaker 5: This is the location in the corner of the McDonald's
- 10:38Speaker 5: parking lot in New Britain where the serial killer William
- 10:41Speaker 5: Devin Howell raped and strangled three of his victims.
- 10:46Speaker 7: Where we're standing.
- 10:47Speaker 5: Absolutely, he would ductape their mounts so that no one
- 10:51Speaker 5: would hear them making any noises. He was careful to
- 10:55Speaker 5: park in remote enough locations. Even though he would be
- 10:59Speaker 5: in a park lot that had public access and perhaps
- 11:02Speaker 5: even had some cars parked, they were always, you know,
- 11:05Speaker 5: at least fifty feet away.
- 11:08Speaker 7: About Nilsa Erismendi, he writes, she wanted a ride into Hartford.
- 11:12Speaker 7: I grabbed her, raped her throughout the night and into
- 11:16Speaker 7: the day. I killed her and threw her down the hill.
- 11:19Speaker 5: It was at this location, Noissa, that he would drive
- 11:24Speaker 5: his van up.
- 11:25Speaker 4: He would slide.
- 11:26Speaker 10: Open the side door, the body of each of his
- 11:30Speaker 10: victims would be wrapped in plastic trash begs, and then
- 11:35Speaker 10: very quickly thrown them over this steep embankment into the
- 11:41Speaker 10: ravine below.
- 11:43Speaker 7: Concerning How's first victim, Melody Camlini, he writes, I grabbed
- 11:48Speaker 7: her by the throat, I raised a hammer and told
- 11:50Speaker 7: her all I want is sex. If you don't give
- 11:53Speaker 7: me any trouble, you won't get hurt. But that wasn't true.
- 11:58Speaker 7: He hits her with a hammer and strangles her to death.
- 12:02Speaker 7: And that's not all.
- 12:03Speaker 5: At the time, he was living in his van, so
- 12:06Speaker 5: he slept beside her body for two weeks.
- 12:11Speaker 7: According to police affidavits, he nicknamed the corpse Baby. Then
- 12:17Speaker 7: he writes about Marilyn Gonzalez and how after raping her
- 12:21Speaker 7: through the night, he quote got us some fast food breakfast.
- 12:25Speaker 7: It will be her final meal before Howell strangles her
- 12:28Speaker 7: to death. It's a strange ritual he admits to doing
- 12:32Speaker 7: with most of his victims, writing I'd go through the
- 12:36Speaker 7: Mickey Dee's dry through with a half naked, tied up
- 12:39Speaker 7: expletive in the back and told them if they made
- 12:42Speaker 7: a sound, it would be their last. None of them did.
- 12:45Speaker 7: They are acts that can only be described as pure evil,
- 12:49Speaker 7: But as I was about to find out, the man
- 12:51Speaker 7: who committed them is not so easily defined.
- 12:55Speaker 9: I mean a committed monstrous and heinous crimes, but not
- 12:59Speaker 9: her care character isn't a monstrous in the heinous first.
- 13:03Speaker 7: Coming up?
- 13:05Speaker 9: Everybody wants to know why?
- 13:06Speaker 13: Why?
- 13:07Speaker 9: Why? Why?
- 13:08Speaker 7: In his first national interview, Connecticut's most prolific serial killer
- 13:13Speaker 7: speaks from behind bars.
- 13:15Speaker 9: I chose to do what I did, and I just
- 13:18Speaker 9: chose not to care.
- 13:22Speaker 1: William Howell is where he should be, rotting away in
- 13:25Speaker 1: a prison cell for murdering seven people. Today, the serial
- 13:29Speaker 1: killer is talking to our nurisitit?
- 13:33Speaker 7: William Devin Howell admits to ending the lives of seven
- 13:37Speaker 7: people in his murder mobile and stashing their mutilated bodies
- 13:41Speaker 7: behind a busy strip mall. Now, in his first national
- 13:47Speaker 7: TV interview, we're talking to the man being called Connecticut's
- 13:50Speaker 7: most prolific serial killer.
- 13:54Speaker 3: Good morning, William, how are you? This is Nurse and
- 13:56Speaker 3: I with Time Watch Dady.
- 13:58Speaker 9: I'm all right, how are you?
- 13:59Speaker 3: I know you were reluctant to talk to the media
- 14:01Speaker 3: at first. What changed your mind?
- 14:04Speaker 9: Well, I'm still not really excited to talk to y'all
- 14:06Speaker 9: and I'd rather not be doing it at all. But
- 14:08Speaker 9: I did this as a favor to.
- 14:09Speaker 7: Add Regardless of his reasons, we're talking it was an
- 14:13Speaker 7: opportunity I wasn't going to squander getting inside the mind
- 14:18Speaker 7: of the man who once called himself the sick Ripper.
- 14:22Speaker 9: Everybody wants to know why, why? Why? And the truth is,
- 14:27Speaker 9: I don't know why. You know what I mean. I
- 14:29Speaker 9: was raised by a good family in a good home.
- 14:31Speaker 9: I was never abused, I was never molested. I didn't
- 14:35Speaker 9: kill animals when I was a little kid or anything
- 14:38Speaker 9: like that. So I just don't fit the mold at
- 14:41Speaker 9: all that everybody tries to put serial killers in, you
- 14:44Speaker 9: know what I mean. So why I grew up to
- 14:47Speaker 9: commit these friends? I have no idea other than the
- 14:50Speaker 9: only thing I could say for my own selfish reasons.
- 14:54Speaker 7: So then where did it all go wrong? How did
- 14:57Speaker 7: how all go from being happy kid to kill her?
- 15:01Speaker 9: I started screwing up my life.
- 15:03Speaker 3: How did you start screwing up your life?
- 15:05Speaker 14: Well?
- 15:05Speaker 9: Through drinking? And I served half in the nineties in
- 15:09Speaker 9: jail or prison in Virginia, and it was all for
- 15:12Speaker 9: driving the car and got a license, and that instilled
- 15:15Speaker 9: a lot of dinnerness in me.
- 15:16Speaker 6: And you know what I mean, And you were angry.
- 15:19Speaker 9: Yeah, I was. I was angry inside.
- 15:21Speaker 7: And that's when he says, the sick thoughts started creeping in.
- 15:26Speaker 9: It was something that I had had fantasized about for
- 15:29Speaker 9: a few years.
- 15:30Speaker 3: So you began fantasizing about killing people in Virginia in
- 15:34Speaker 3: the nineties.
- 15:34Speaker 9: I didn't start. I wasn't The fantasy wasn't about killing somebody.
- 15:38Speaker 9: I just I killed him to try to cover up
- 15:43Speaker 9: my crime, and the fantasy was about just raping them.
- 15:46Speaker 3: What happened? What made you cross the line?
- 15:48Speaker 9: I don't know. I just decided to act on my impulses,
- 15:51Speaker 9: and you know, I'd been out drinking a little bit,
- 15:53Speaker 9: and I was pissed off at my uh at my
- 15:56Speaker 9: girlfriend at the time, and I don't know. It's just
- 15:59Speaker 9: something made me say, well, tonight's night, I'm gonna cross
- 16:03Speaker 9: the line. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna make my
- 16:04Speaker 9: fantasy come true.
- 16:06Speaker 7: And once he crossed that line, he says, poorror became habits.
- 16:12Speaker 9: It's not like it was a thief that was driving
- 16:14Speaker 9: me to commit these crimes, as this may make me
- 16:18Speaker 9: even more sinister, but it was something that I chose
- 16:22Speaker 9: to do. I didn't have something driving me that I
- 16:25Speaker 9: couldn't control, you know what I mean, or anything like that.
- 16:29Speaker 9: And I chose. I chose to do what I did,
- 16:34Speaker 9: and I just chose not to care.
- 16:37Speaker 7: But he says that was then, and that today he
- 16:40Speaker 7: does feel remorse for what he's done, for the pain
- 16:44Speaker 7: he's brought to his victim's loved ones.
- 16:46Speaker 9: I would hear him sobbing in the courtroom, and it
- 16:49Speaker 9: just tore me apart.
- 16:50Speaker 6: You're so.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Concerned about the victim families. Now, you have a heart,
- 16:55Speaker 3: as you should for the victims' families, their feelings and empathy. Now,
- 17:00Speaker 3: how did you think about the family members of the
- 17:02Speaker 3: people who you killed on those nights and days.
- 17:06Speaker 9: I have no excuse, what can I say? I was selfish.
- 17:08Speaker 9: You know, I'm trying and be a good person. I try,
- 17:11Speaker 9: and you know, live my life within trek integrity, and
- 17:14Speaker 9: then I went and committed crimes that were the total
- 17:17Speaker 9: opposite of how I try and live and conduct myself.
- 17:20Speaker 9: I am very remorseful for my actions, and if I
- 17:23Speaker 9: could go back and take it all back, I would.
- 17:25Speaker 9: If if I could give my life to bring theirs back,
- 17:27Speaker 9: I would.
- 17:29Speaker 7: I was at house sentencing just a few weeks before
- 17:32Speaker 7: and caught up with a family friend of Mary Jane
- 17:35Speaker 7: Minar to ask what he thought of Howe's contrition. How
- 17:39Speaker 7: stood up and he addressed the victims' family. Sounded like
- 17:43Speaker 7: he meant what he said, but like I apologize and
- 17:46Speaker 7: sincerity about them.
- 17:47Speaker 6: But what he did was like very bad.
- 17:50Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine like going through something like that.
- 17:54Speaker 7: Do you feel sympathy for him?
- 17:56Speaker 15: No?
- 17:56Speaker 9: Not really.
- 17:57Speaker 6: I wanted to choke him out.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Actually that day when we were in court, why did
- 18:04Speaker 3: you plead guilty?
- 18:06Speaker 9: Because I'm guilty. I didn't want to put the families
- 18:09Speaker 9: through it. I felt like, if I want to trial,
- 18:12Speaker 9: I would have been found guilty anyway, So why put
- 18:15Speaker 9: the families through it? And what put the taxpayers through it?
- 18:20Speaker 7: In fact, he says, if he had his way, he
- 18:22Speaker 7: would have gotten a lot worse than the three hundred
- 18:25Speaker 7: and sixty year sentence he received.
- 18:27Speaker 9: I feel like the just sentence would have been the
- 18:29Speaker 9: death penalty.
- 18:30Speaker 3: So you would rather have gotten lethal injection versus life
- 18:36Speaker 3: in prison.
- 18:36Speaker 9: You want to die, I would rather have the lethal
- 18:40Speaker 9: injection when I committed the crime, that was the sentence
- 18:44Speaker 9: I expected to serve.
- 18:46Speaker 7: But Howe also admits that if he hadn't been caught,
- 18:50Speaker 7: his killing spree very well may have continued.
- 18:53Speaker 9: Probably there would have probably been more victims.
- 18:56Speaker 7: So then, did Hall have genuine remorse or is it
- 19:00Speaker 7: just that he'd been caught. I decided to ask him
- 19:03Speaker 7: some specifics about his victims, and that's when the tone
- 19:07Speaker 7: of our conversation suddenly shifted.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Do you remember the names of any of your victims?
- 19:13Speaker 9: I know where they all are.
- 19:14Speaker 7: I'm not going to get into that, but the families
- 19:17Speaker 7: deserve to know, so I pushed on, So.
- 19:20Speaker 3: When you hear the name Mary Jane Minard, do you
- 19:23Speaker 3: remember the person who it was that night?
- 19:25Speaker 9: I'm really tired of talking about this. I don't like
- 19:28Speaker 9: talking about it at all anyway. You know what I mean?
- 19:30Speaker 12: And you just you won't.
- 19:32Speaker 9: You won't let it go upset what I've wanted to
- 19:34Speaker 9: say about the subject if you can't find something else
- 19:36Speaker 9: to talk about, rather just in the conversation.
- 19:39Speaker 7: And when I tried to press one more time, that's
- 19:43Speaker 7: exactly what he did.
- 19:45Speaker 6: What about nothing?
- 19:46Speaker 9: I tell you, how many times do I have to say?
- 19:48Speaker 9: You know what I've done? As gans read the book.
- 19:53Speaker 7: Unfortunately, our call ended before I got to ask one
- 19:56Speaker 7: crucial question. Did how six months kill Free really stop
- 20:01Speaker 7: with those seven unfortunate souls or are there others? Ann Howard,
- 20:07Speaker 7: the woman who literally wrote the book on Howe, believes
- 20:11Speaker 7: there could be.
- 20:12Speaker 5: A detective has asked me to sit down with the
- 20:15Speaker 5: new written serial Killer Task Force and discuss the important
- 20:19Speaker 5: possibility that there may be more victims out there.
- 20:24Speaker 7: In fact, in a chilling new revelation, police are now
- 20:28Speaker 7: saying they've found several videotapes in the back of how
- 20:31Speaker 7: so called murdermobile which show other women who have yet
- 20:36Speaker 7: to be identified. Take a good look at these grainy screenshots.
- 20:40Speaker 7: Investigators say they need your help putting names to these faces,
- 20:46Speaker 7: identifying whether or not they too fell victim to Connecticut's
- 20:50Speaker 7: most prolific serial.
- 20:52Speaker 2: Killer, William Howell. Is certainly a fascinating case. So to
- 20:57Speaker 2: help us understand how a human being could commit such
- 21:00Speaker 2: heinous crimes, we've brought in top forensic psychologist doctor Luce Lessinger.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Lou thanks very much for being thanks.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Riss Hull has said that he had fantasies of raping
- 21:08Speaker 1: these women and only killed them to conceal his crimes,
- 21:12Speaker 1: but in other interviews he said that he had actual
- 21:15Speaker 1: fantasies of killing women.
- 21:16Speaker 2: What does that say about him?
- 21:17Speaker 8: Well, these murders are serial sexually motivated. To understand serial
- 21:22Speaker 8: sexual murder, the best way to do it is to
- 21:25Speaker 8: view it as an abnormal sexual arousal pattern, a paraphilia.
- 21:29Speaker 8: And in these cases the violence is eroticized. There's a
- 21:33Speaker 8: fusion of sex and aggression, so that the aggressive act
- 21:36Speaker 8: itself is sexually arousing.
- 21:38Speaker 2: He called his van the murdermobile.
- 21:41Speaker 1: What does that say to you?
- 21:42Speaker 2: Is that a trophy for him?
- 21:43Speaker 8: Well, I wouldn't say it's a trophy for him. And
- 21:45Speaker 8: the naming of his car is a little bit unusual,
- 21:48Speaker 8: But serial killers have an interesting connection with their vehicles.
- 21:51Speaker 8: They use it for a lot of purposes. One thing
- 21:54Speaker 8: that's interesting is many serial killers drive excessively with their
- 21:58Speaker 8: cars because they're trolling for victims. They're looking for abduction spots,
- 22:02Speaker 8: and they're looking where they can dumb bodies. In some cases,
- 22:05Speaker 8: a serial killer will take the doorknobs off the inside
- 22:07Speaker 8: of his car so once the woman gets in, she
- 22:10Speaker 8: can't get out out.
- 22:11Speaker 15: Is a guy like.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Howell worn this way or did something horrendous happen to
- 22:15Speaker 1: him that made him this way?
- 22:16Speaker 8: The best way to understand this is from a biopsychosocial perspective,
- 22:21Speaker 8: but with a heavy emphasis on neurobiology. An abnormal sexual
- 22:25Speaker 8: arousal pattern isn't something that's learned. It's not a result
- 22:28Speaker 8: of poor parenting or stressful events.
- 22:31Speaker 2: Is it the way he's wired?
- 22:32Speaker 8: Basically the way he's wired. It's unknown whether it's chemical, electrical, hormonal,
- 22:37Speaker 8: a combination of wall factors plus head injury plus horrible
- 22:41Speaker 8: psychosocial events. It takes a lot to create a serial
- 22:45Speaker 8: sexual murderer. That's why they're very rare. They've been in
- 22:48Speaker 8: every country, in every culture since pre modern time, and
- 22:51Speaker 8: there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that they're increasing.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Dark but fascinating stuff. Doctor Lewis always appreciate your insight.
- 22:58Speaker 1: For more in this story, please go to crimewatch Daily
- 23:01Speaker 1: dot com. Coming up terror from behind the bedroom window.
- 23:06Speaker 6: He was obsessed with her.
- 23:08Speaker 2: A Michigan teen walks into her room only to find
- 23:11Speaker 2: a maniac armed with a knife and a bottle of
- 23:14Speaker 2: gasoline hiding under the coverage.
- 23:16Speaker 6: He looks insane, Honestly, there's no other way to describe it.
- 23:22Speaker 2: She takes me moment by moment through the terrifying attack.
- 23:26Speaker 6: He cut me across the chest with a knife.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Yeah, her incredible survivor story and the person she now
- 23:33Speaker 2: calls a hero. Did you think he would die?
- 23:36Speaker 6: Yes?
- 23:38Speaker 2: Pass next.
- 23:41Speaker 1: Welcome back to Crime Watch Daily. What happened behind this
- 23:44Speaker 1: bedroom window was beyond terrifying. The suspect hiding and waiting
- 23:49Speaker 1: for his teenage prey with a large knife and a
- 23:51Speaker 1: bottle filled with gasoline. Today, that victim is sharing her
- 23:55Speaker 1: incredible story of survival with me. All is quiet at
- 24:01Speaker 1: the Putney family home on Prospect Street in Kalamazoo, Michigan.
- 24:05Speaker 1: The family has had an early dinner. Mom Kristen kickback
- 24:09Speaker 1: for the.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Rest of the evening, son Kylie is playing video games,
- 24:12Speaker 2: and daughter Sophia is climbing the stairs leading to her bedroom.
- 24:17Speaker 2: But Sophia has no way of knowing that behind that
- 24:20Speaker 2: bedroom door, a drained stalker is lying in wait.
- 24:25Speaker 7: It was obsessed with her, and now under the.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Knife, a bottle of gasoline and a lighter, the love
- 24:31Speaker 2: sick miniac is about to plunge Sophia into a nightmare
- 24:34Speaker 2: on Prospect Street.
- 24:36Speaker 6: He looks insane, Honestly, there's no other way to describe it.
- 24:43Speaker 14: Once he saw Sophia's face, he was angry.
- 24:46Speaker 6: He has these really piercing blue eyes, but they looked
- 24:50Speaker 6: almost dead to me.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Sophia Putney Wilcox, a Gregaria seventeen year old high school senior,
- 24:59Speaker 2: would miraculously survived to tell of her Harry ordeal in
- 25:03Speaker 2: that Chamber of horrors. So you come into your room
- 25:10Speaker 2: thinking nothing's wrong, and now fully recovered from the ghastly,
- 25:14Speaker 2: life threatening injury she suffered. The brave teenager is reliving
- 25:18Speaker 2: with me only on Crimewatch Daily. What she thought would
- 25:21Speaker 2: be her last night alive?
- 25:24Speaker 6: Did you think you would die? Yes, it didn't even
- 25:27Speaker 6: cross my mind that there was a possibility I would
- 25:29Speaker 6: make it out funny, stop, what are you doing?
- 25:37Speaker 2: Until her night of terror. Sophia had always been a happy.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Fun girl, nice nice swagon swagon.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Even as a young child, and she was so pretty
- 25:50Speaker 1: that her mother, Kristen, kept a close eye out for
- 25:52Speaker 1: her safety.
- 25:53Speaker 15: I was probably overprotective in a lot of ways, and
- 25:57Speaker 15: I was really careful to have her raised in a
- 26:01Speaker 15: warm and loving environment.
- 26:02Speaker 2: And it worked.
- 26:03Speaker 6: Yeah, it did work. It's great kid. Yeah, she has
- 26:06Speaker 6: a great kid, that's for sure.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Kristen became even more vigilant when Sophia, at fourteen years old,
- 26:12Speaker 1: got a crush on a high school classmate named Adam.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Shei guaja he was your.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Daughter's first love?
- 26:19Speaker 6: Yeah, very first love.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Really, how did Adam strike you?
- 26:24Speaker 15: Adam has a real innocent face and her eyes was
- 26:27Speaker 15: very quiet and soft spoken, a little shy.
- 26:32Speaker 2: Mom says their relationship appeared to be very sweet and wholesome.
- 26:36Speaker 15: Sophia and Adam were going to church group activities. That
- 26:39Speaker 15: seemed like a really kind of wholesome situation.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Sophia says he was her first true love.
- 26:45Speaker 6: He was just really attractive, charming, funny and.
- 26:48Speaker 2: What did you like most about him?
- 26:50Speaker 6: When he started seeing him? I liked that he was
- 26:54Speaker 6: really mysterious. It was really hard for me to figure
- 26:57Speaker 6: him out. I'm normally really good at reading people, but
- 27:00Speaker 6: with him, it was different, and.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Sofia would begin to see a frightening other side of Adam.
- 27:06Speaker 2: After they'd been dating for about six months.
- 27:10Speaker 6: He'd do things from like just punching me in the face,
- 27:13Speaker 6: to throwing things at me to choking me. One time
- 27:18Speaker 6: he locked me in a trunk, like he locked you in.
- 27:21Speaker 2: A trunk of a car. Yeah, why did you put
- 27:23Speaker 2: up with it?
- 27:24Speaker 6: I put up with it because I didn't know any better.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Adam just continued to get more violent and abuse it.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Did he injure you.
- 27:38Speaker 6: Yes, multiple times. I'd get bruises all the time. He'd
- 27:43Speaker 6: hold razors to my throat and other various parts of
- 27:47Speaker 6: my body, so I'd have little scratch marks and stuff.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Sophia says Adam had also become extremely jealous, possessive, and controlling.
- 27:57Speaker 6: I pushed everyone out of my life. It wasn't He
- 28:00Speaker 6: wasn't okay with me having friends, so I didn't really
- 28:02Speaker 6: have anyone to talk to.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Did he keep you from your parents?
- 28:05Speaker 6: He didn't even want me to hang out with my family.
- 28:08Speaker 6: And he started to tell me, you know, you're not
- 28:10Speaker 6: going to get a job, You're not going to go
- 28:12Speaker 6: to college, You're not going to do all these things
- 28:14Speaker 6: because there could be guys there, you could talk to
- 28:17Speaker 6: other people whatever.
- 28:20Speaker 2: And Sophia was keeping the terrible abuse a dark secret.
- 28:24Speaker 2: Did you tell your mom about this?
- 28:26Speaker 6: No?
- 28:27Speaker 2: Why not?
- 28:28Speaker 6: I was scared of what she would think. I didn't
- 28:32Speaker 6: want to disappoint her. I didn't. I was ashamed that
- 28:35Speaker 6: I was letting someone treat me poorly.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Sophia was also afraid that telling her mother might make
- 28:41Speaker 2: Adam even more dangerous.
- 28:43Speaker 15: She knew that if I knew what was really going on,
- 28:45Speaker 15: I would have them break up, and she knew that
- 28:48Speaker 15: that would.
- 28:48Speaker 6: Send him off.
- 28:49Speaker 15: You know that he would he would go into attack mode.
- 28:53Speaker 2: And that's just what Adam did when Sophia finally dumped
- 28:57Speaker 2: him for cheating on her. And how did he responded?
- 29:00Speaker 6: That he would walk to my house, he'd cry, He'd
- 29:05Speaker 6: wait outside for me, He'd watch everything I was doing.
- 29:08Speaker 6: He'd stalked me, and.
- 29:11Speaker 15: I found that he was looking in the windows.
- 29:14Speaker 6: I became very concerned. He would sit outside my window
- 29:20Speaker 6: and text me everything that I was doing.
- 29:24Speaker 2: Then a crazed atom actually broke into the family's apartment
- 29:27Speaker 2: through Sophia's bedroom window, randishing a knife.
- 29:31Speaker 6: It's the middle of winter. I was literally in a
- 29:34Speaker 6: T shirt and underwear. I wasn't even wearing socks, and
- 29:37Speaker 6: he was telling me to go outside with him, and
- 29:39Speaker 6: I knew I couldn't do that. I knew that if
- 29:41Speaker 6: I walked out with my knife wielding X in the
- 29:44Speaker 6: middle of winter, in the middle of the night, that
- 29:46Speaker 6: I wouldn't come back.
- 29:48Speaker 2: He had kill y.
- 29:49Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, definitely.
- 29:51Speaker 1: How did you get him to leave.
- 29:52Speaker 6: After hours of just trying to tell him that everything
- 29:57Speaker 6: was okay, that I promised I wouldn't call the cop.
- 30:01Speaker 2: He left, but Sophia's mom did call the cops. Well
- 30:06Speaker 2: rested Adam on stalking in a soul charge. A judge
- 30:09Speaker 2: put him on four years probation and ordered him to
- 30:12Speaker 2: stay away from Sophia.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Did you think he would.
- 30:14Speaker 6: Solve the problem?
- 30:16Speaker 2: I did.
- 30:17Speaker 15: Unfortunately I didn't realize how sick he was.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Next Sophia's nightmare on Prospect Street, as Adam returns like
- 30:27Speaker 1: Freddy Krueger with a knife and bottle of gasoline in
- 30:29Speaker 1: his hands and murder on his mom.
- 30:32Speaker 6: He held the door close and he dumped out the gasoline,
- 30:37Speaker 6: and then he lit it.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Sophia Putney Wilcox thought it was just like any other night.
- 30:46Speaker 1: She got home, walked into her bedroom to relax, but
- 30:49Speaker 1: waiting for her under her comforter was.
- 30:51Speaker 2: A man with a knife and evil intentions. Seventeen year
- 30:56Speaker 2: old Sophia Putney Wilcox thought she was finally safe from
- 31:00Speaker 2: her brutally violent and abusive ex boyfriend, Adam Shaguajah.
- 31:04Speaker 6: Adam was arrested right outside my window.
- 31:08Speaker 1: A judge had sentenced eighteen year old Shaguajah to four
- 31:12Speaker 1: years probation and ordered him to stay away from Sophia
- 31:16Speaker 1: after he'd relentlessly beaten, stalked, and threatened to kill his
- 31:19Speaker 1: former high school sweetheart. He was not supposed to see her, No,
- 31:24Speaker 1: he was right, but an obsessed Adam would not be deterred.
- 31:30Speaker 6: He went back to the same old tricks that he'd
- 31:31Speaker 6: used before.
- 31:33Speaker 15: He was trying to contact her right from the beginning.
- 31:39Speaker 6: He texted me hundreds and hundreds of times, spanning my phone.
- 31:47Speaker 6: He was just saying, I'm going to kill myself. I'm
- 31:49Speaker 6: going to kill you.
- 31:51Speaker 2: And now Adam, rejected and enraged, is ready to make
- 31:55Speaker 2: good on that threat. He took a small water bottle,
- 31:59Speaker 2: filled it with gasolene, also had a lighter with him.
- 32:03Speaker 6: I know his intention was to kill her.
- 32:06Speaker 2: Then, late one afternoon, when nobody is home, Adam slips
- 32:09Speaker 2: into Sophia's house through a door he knows is always
- 32:12Speaker 2: left unlocked.
- 32:13Speaker 14: Adam made his way up to Sophia's bedroom. He waited
- 32:17Speaker 14: there for upwards of three hours for her to get home.
- 32:22Speaker 2: And once she does, his anger suddenly explodes into a
- 32:26Speaker 2: jealous rage.
- 32:27Speaker 14: A young man brings Sophia home.
- 32:30Speaker 2: He said he heard a male voice that's what set
- 32:32Speaker 2: him off.
- 32:33Speaker 14: Yeah, she was with another young man.
- 32:36Speaker 2: The other young man leaves and Sophia hangs out with mom, Kristen,
- 32:39Speaker 2: and younger brother Kylie before walking up the stairs to
- 32:43Speaker 2: go to her bedroom on the second floor. Behind the door,
- 32:47Speaker 2: Adam is now hiding under a blanket on the bedroom floor,
- 32:50Speaker 2: waiting for Sophia to walk in.
- 32:53Speaker 6: After I close the door, he popped up.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Sophia relives her terror in the very room where she
- 33:00Speaker 2: stared death in the face.
- 33:02Speaker 6: What does he do? He is looking at me crazy
- 33:07Speaker 6: and I tried to tell you know, you can leave.
- 33:09Speaker 6: It's not too late. Nobody has to know. We can
- 33:12Speaker 6: talk about things, we can work it out.
- 33:14Speaker 2: What a crazed Adam pulls out a knife.
- 33:17Speaker 6: I asked him. I said, Adam, are you going to
- 33:19Speaker 6: kill me? And he cut me across the chest and
- 33:23Speaker 6: he said yes.
- 33:26Speaker 2: Then he presses the knife to Sophia's neck. He must
- 33:29Speaker 2: have been fined out of your mind.
- 33:31Speaker 6: Yeah, I just kept thinking this is it? What happened next?
- 33:37Speaker 6: I was crying. I collapsed to the floor. My mom
- 33:41Speaker 6: and my brother were downstairs and I heard this thud
- 33:44Speaker 6: and Sophie cry out.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Kristen runs to her daughter's.
- 33:48Speaker 15: Bedroom, and I grabbed the doorknob and I said, let
- 33:50Speaker 15: me answer what.
- 33:51Speaker 2: Adams pressed his body against the door to keep it closed.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Your mom's trying to get in, touring this door. He's
- 33:57Speaker 2: holding a shut what's going through?
- 34:00Speaker 15: This?
- 34:01Speaker 6: Is it? I remember I told my mom that I
- 34:03Speaker 6: loved her. I thought it was going to be the
- 34:04Speaker 6: last time.
- 34:07Speaker 2: Now, Adam grabs the bottle of gasoline he brought.
- 34:10Speaker 14: With them and ported all around himself as he stood
- 34:13Speaker 14: there by the door, and then let himself on fire.
- 34:17Speaker 6: Flames burst it everywhere.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Sophia's mother finally manages to push open the bedroom door.
- 34:25Speaker 6: It just was a wah.
- 34:26Speaker 15: It was like all the way up to the ceiling
- 34:28Speaker 15: of flames, and I couldn't see into the room.
- 34:30Speaker 6: So she starts yelling for my little brother. Kylie comes
- 34:34Speaker 6: up the.
- 34:34Speaker 15: Stairs with a baseball bat because he's in protective mode already.
- 34:38Speaker 6: Can he jump through the flames? All I can remember
- 34:41Speaker 6: is just hitting there.
- 34:43Speaker 2: Adam pulls Sophia in front of him as a human shield.
- 34:47Speaker 6: Kylie just yelled, I'm going to kill you. I'm going
- 34:49Speaker 6: to kill you.
- 34:50Speaker 2: But Kylie is barely able to see through the smoke.
- 34:53Speaker 14: Unfortunately, he missed Adam on one of the swings and
- 34:56Speaker 14: struck Sofia right in the head.
- 34:58Speaker 2: Did you realize you had hit Sophie?
- 35:01Speaker 6: I think so.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Look I get it, and in the mayhem Kylie he
- 35:09Speaker 2: chases Adam away. He's the reason Sophie's here. I think
- 35:12Speaker 2: Adam was ready to kill her, and only Kylie's intervention
- 35:14Speaker 2: is the reason that she's still crown. And the banged
- 35:17Speaker 2: up ex boyfriend makes a dramatic escape, and so Adam
- 35:20Speaker 2: goes out that window, slides down the roofline and hits
- 35:24Speaker 2: the ground one story below. YEP. Sophia's mother calls nine
- 35:29Speaker 2: to one one as she's rushing her daughter to the
- 35:31Speaker 2: emergency room.
- 35:33Speaker 8: He tried to kill her.
- 35:34Speaker 2: He had a bottle putt of gasoline and lighter.
- 35:37Speaker 6: He threw up bomb at our house, trying to get
- 35:39Speaker 6: the house to go up in flames, with her and
- 35:40Speaker 6: him in us.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Christian's frantic and furious. He needs to be put away.
- 35:46Speaker 2: You can hear a bleeding and critically injured Sophia crying
- 35:49Speaker 2: in the background.
- 35:53Speaker 6: Idea, have something you can put on your daughter's head,
- 35:55Speaker 6: don't pressure wherever the cut is.
- 35:57Speaker 2: I'm driving well.
- 35:59Speaker 1: Doctor's battle to keep Sophia alive, Kalamazoo police hunt for
- 36:03Speaker 1: her wounded ax Now on the rout.
- 36:05Speaker 14: He needed medical attention. He was burnt pretty bad and
- 36:09Speaker 14: he had some injuries received from either the bad or
- 36:12Speaker 14: the fall.
- 36:17Speaker 2: Then the next day, an unexpected and bizarre Adam sighting
- 36:20Speaker 2: Kalamazoo cops helping in the search spot him looking scruffy
- 36:24Speaker 2: and weak, walking along the side of a road towards town.
- 36:29Speaker 6: Give me a dragon camp, we'll go on an.
- 36:35Speaker 2: Gave your idea?
- 36:35Speaker 9: You no okay?
- 36:38Speaker 1: In the surprisingly simple capture of Adam is recorded on
- 36:41Speaker 1: this police.
- 36:42Speaker 2: Dash cam video showing him being interviewed, frisked, and arrested
- 36:47Speaker 2: for the attack on Sofia.
- 36:49Speaker 1: As he's being taken to a hospital in the back
- 36:51Speaker 1: of a police cruiser, a very calm collected Adam gives
- 36:55Speaker 1: a chilling blow by blow account of his attack.
- 36:58Speaker 12: I didn't want to catch my on fire. I obviously
- 37:01Speaker 12: had little shop with doing it right and more lad,
- 37:06Speaker 12: I guess you you should have scared attacked it. But
- 37:10Speaker 12: by the time Pasha page everything as it cana.
- 37:15Speaker 2: Adam is later arraigned on attempted murder and other charges.
- 37:19Speaker 6: Sure you understand what the charges are.
- 37:21Speaker 2: And what the mask what penalties are? Well, Annam remains
- 37:27Speaker 2: locked up a witting trial.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Sophia is out of danger and making a remarkable recovery
- 37:32Speaker 1: from her horrific injuries, which included a fractured skull and
- 37:36Speaker 1: knife wounds to the chest.
- 37:37Speaker 13: I think, deep down, I always knew that something was wrong,
- 37:40Speaker 13: but you don't really acknowledge that.
- 37:43Speaker 2: And from her hospital bed, Sophia bravely delivers this video
- 37:47Speaker 2: message to other young women in abusive relationships.
- 37:50Speaker 13: If you ever get a wrong feeling about something, you
- 37:53Speaker 13: need to go straight to someone and talk to them
- 37:56Speaker 13: about it.
- 37:57Speaker 1: And at Anam's much anticipated trial, well laying out a
- 38:01Speaker 1: very rare case of teenage domestic violence, Sophia's emotional testimony
- 38:06Speaker 1: commands the attention of everyone in the courtroom. Sophia weeps
- 38:12Speaker 1: as she tells of the terror she endured at his hands.
- 38:17Speaker 6: I was going to die and he was pulling me
- 38:23Speaker 6: and then fall towards the fire.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Annam beats the attempted murder rat but is found guilty
- 38:30Speaker 1: of the lesser charges of a home invasion and second
- 38:33Speaker 1: degree arson, a ruling that would spark a rally outside
- 38:39Speaker 1: the courthouse by protesters demanding tougher sentences for violent crimes
- 38:43Speaker 1: against women. I love you, I want the controversy means
- 38:48Speaker 1: all eyes are again on Sophia at Adam sentencing.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Where she speaks directly to her former sweetheart about the
- 38:55Speaker 2: pain he caused her.
- 39:01Speaker 6: You didn't want.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Adam. Shagwaja is sentenced to twenty nine to sixty years
- 39:07Speaker 2: in prison, while Sophia becomes the poster girl for the
- 39:11Speaker 2: anti domestic violence movement.
- 39:13Speaker 6: I get to share my story and hopes that it
- 39:15Speaker 6: won't happen to someone else.
- 39:17Speaker 1: And what's the most important thing you say to these girls?
- 39:20Speaker 6: That they're not alone, that I'm here, they have options.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Sophia is living proof of the lasting damage such abuse
- 39:33Speaker 1: can cause, admitting she's already living in fear of the
- 39:36Speaker 1: day Adam gets out of prison, even though he's not
- 39:39Speaker 1: eligible for parole for nearly thirty years.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Do you worry that when he gets out he'll come
- 39:45Speaker 2: after you again?
- 39:46Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 39:48Speaker 2: I think he will, even in his forties or early since. Yeah,
- 39:52Speaker 2: what can you do about that?
- 39:54Speaker 6: Hi, change my name, move out of the state.
- 39:58Speaker 2: You would actually do that?
- 39:59Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I'm going to to do that for sure.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how much you're afraid of this kid.
- 40:05Speaker 6: I'm terrified