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  Speaker 1: Here's Nick Eatman. What's up? Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented
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  Speaker 1: by Gillette. I am Nick Eatman. It is Wednesday, February eighteenth,
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  Speaker 1: moving right along here in the month of February, getting
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  Speaker 1: closer and closer to the start of free agency, which
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  Speaker 1: is actually March eleventh. But a little bit of news
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and NFL opened nothing new, this was the schedule,
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  Speaker 1: but NFL opened the window for the franchise tag so
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  Speaker 1: teams can start to tag the players if they want to.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys obviously are expected to do that. With Orge Pickens.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't usually happen right away. They they may try
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  Speaker 1: to talk a little bit more, maybe at the combine
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  Speaker 1: which is next week, with his agent and see if,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they can make a little progress there. But
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody knows that that's where it's headed. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, again, you guys know this, and they've done
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  Speaker 1: this several times with other players. It's really more of
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  Speaker 1: a holding pattern. They're still trying to get a deal done.
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  Speaker 1: If they can, they'll have all the way to July
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  Speaker 1: to get that done, so we'll see. It's just it's
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  Speaker 1: more of a you don't want to got to go
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  Speaker 1: to free agency. You want to keep negotiating with them,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the way to do that. And it also
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  Speaker 1: kind of says, all right, that's that's what this player is.
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  Speaker 1: He's a twenty eight million dollar a year player. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's it's hard to think that you're going to put
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  Speaker 1: tag a player and then get him for less than that.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what the negotiations look like. If
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  Speaker 1: it looks different in here, it's because it is. We're
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  Speaker 1: trying some new things here in the in our podcast studio,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm the first one, kind of the guinea pig
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  Speaker 1: of it. And it'll be different than what the other
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  Speaker 1: shows are obviously because they'll be in some different chairs.
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  Speaker 1: We have just just me on this show. But you'll
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  Speaker 1: see with the Cowboys break coming up right after this,
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  Speaker 1: they'll have a different look, maybe a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a relaxed look, trying some different things. This is
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  Speaker 1: the time to do that and definitely putting Chris Beam
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  Speaker 1: to work for sure. All right eight eight eight eight
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  Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven is the number to call.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Davion on the line, So Davion, let's get
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  Speaker 1: us going, Davi on. What's up?
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  Speaker 3: What to do?
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  Speaker 4: What to do? My boy?
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  Speaker 5: What a do?
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  Speaker 6: Going on?
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  Speaker 1: How much?
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  Speaker 7: Man?
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 8: Oh? Man?
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  Speaker 6: We just chilling?
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  Speaker 8: I know I called last week and asks the CPE
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  Speaker 8: Bretha and wohilah. Yeah, well I got one today, so
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  Speaker 8: uh so I'm excited to see that. I'll probably see
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  Speaker 8: when I get up from from resting from work, but
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  Speaker 8: I can't wait. I'm excited to see what he's gonna say.
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  Speaker 8: I think he's gonna I hope you got some good hope.
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  Speaker 8: I hope that the questions come h with some good
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  Speaker 8: stuff to try to get us a direction of what
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  Speaker 8: he's trying to take it. I mean, he ain't gonna
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  Speaker 8: give a Devin it too much, but right, but a
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  Speaker 8: couple of things I gotta, I gotta. I guess I
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  Speaker 8: got offensive question and a defensive question off. As a wise,
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  Speaker 8: it's been a lot of chatter and I'm just curious
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  Speaker 8: to where you probably following this. What is your what
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  Speaker 8: are your thoughts on Jake Ferguson.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, good solid player, solid tied end. Doesn't break as
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  Speaker 1: many tackles as I would like him to be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more dynamic. But he's a safety valve type guy,
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  Speaker 1: and I think he benefits from what the offense is
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  Speaker 1: with with the guys that you have to be scared
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  Speaker 1: about with CD and pickings, and I think he benefits
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  Speaker 1: from that. So I think he's a good solid player. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts, Davion, Because normally you don't ask
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  Speaker 1: that question if there's not something behind it.
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  Speaker 8: What do you think you know? You know I got
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  Speaker 8: something bound it, Because I just I'm kind of curious
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  Speaker 8: of the nation why they really just kind of checking
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  Speaker 8: out on fer I just I don't understand. Uh, he
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  Speaker 8: signed the contract. He's not one of the top eight.
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  Speaker 8: He's he's like right in the middle of somewhere, I
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  Speaker 8: mean on the top upper but not really the top
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  Speaker 8: eight tight end. But I think he's doing the job
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  Speaker 8: that we need him to do.
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  Speaker 9: Now.
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  Speaker 8: Could he be a little more dynamic, sure, But if
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  Speaker 8: you got GP and CD, really, what do you really want?
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  Speaker 8: He had eight touchdowns last year. I mean, yeah, you
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  Speaker 8: wanted to get around about eight hundred yards he had
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  Speaker 8: six hundreds, so tell him in yornage. But if I
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  Speaker 8: got two stills on the outside, I just need this
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  Speaker 8: guy to really catch touchdowns, to get first down. To
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  Speaker 8: be honest, that's pretty much it. I don't really need
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  Speaker 8: to need that much more out of that. Okay. My
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  Speaker 8: second question defensive wise, Okay, I guess I'm gonna shoot
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  Speaker 8: a couple of scenarios.
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  Speaker 6: He's one of you like better.
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  Speaker 8: I know we're talking well since he's out there, Bradley
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  Speaker 8: Chubb is out there. So my thought is I would
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  Speaker 8: rather because I'm kind of leaning towards not getting a
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  Speaker 8: guy in the West Coast. I'm more and more by
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  Speaker 8: trying to get more people, more rushiers instead of just
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  Speaker 8: getting a rusher. Uh. So I'm thinking get chubbed clowning easy.
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  Speaker 8: Uh maybe a draft pick in there versus just having
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  Speaker 8: the guy in the West Coast with just one other
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  Speaker 8: guy for a draft pick for as a rusher and
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  Speaker 8: uh And I think with the with the scenario with Chubb,
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  Speaker 8: we probably get us a linebacker and that that that scenario.
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  Speaker 8: Uh and also probably get a decent safety. Okay, I
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  Speaker 8: think you get the guy in the West Coast, you
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  Speaker 8: maybe only get like one or one other little thing
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  Speaker 8: they may be happy at. The defense took my thoughts.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know, you know, the Santa cap
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  Speaker 8: is kind of a myth, but I kind of want
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  Speaker 8: to allocate the resource a little bit more across the
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  Speaker 8: board for the defense instead of just kind of put
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  Speaker 8: it all into one guy. I hope that one guy
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  Speaker 8: really takes us over the hump. I think we need
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  Speaker 8: a little bit more than that. But what do you think?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, thanks for call a lot a lot going on there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when the guy is cut at this point
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  Speaker 1: in his contract, it's it's obviously financial and you know
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  Speaker 1: me probably not going to work out a deal, and
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  Speaker 1: it's for solar cap reasons, which means that the guys
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  Speaker 1: you know, certainly not going to be cheap because it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't one of those I don't think it was one
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  Speaker 1: where you know, you're not performing at all close to
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  Speaker 1: the money. It's just the Dolphins looks like they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to cut salary at all costs and really kind of
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  Speaker 1: hit the reset button. So that being said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb is gonna gonna gonna get the top dollar,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of teams that could use a
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  Speaker 1: player like that that have a lot more money. So
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna be a tough bidding war, I think for
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But I'm not saying that they couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: in there and do it. I just mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's certainly not gonna be cheap. This is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be one of the bigger ones in free agency to
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  Speaker 1: do that. And let's not forget the Cowboys are already
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  Speaker 1: doing that. They're already gonna get one of the top
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  Speaker 1: free agents on the market. And and as much as
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound fun to you, that's the reality. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's just the reality of it. I mean, look what
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  Speaker 1: Pickens was making last year and what he's gonna make
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  Speaker 1: this year. That's a big time signing. And the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: are gonna do it. Yeah, he's already here. They're keeping
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  Speaker 1: him or that's the plan. But just remember that's that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be on there. So to think that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get two of those guys, that's hard to that's hard
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  Speaker 1: to come by from the Cowboys standpoint. Maybe it happens,
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  Speaker 1: but I I'd be surprised. As for Ferguson, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Kansas City game where he made a catch in
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  Speaker 1: the back of the end zone. They got called a
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  Speaker 1: touchdown and then they went back and reversed it. But
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  Speaker 1: that type of play, the catch he made against Washington,
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  Speaker 1: I believe was it one that Washington right in front
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  Speaker 1: of Hi. Yeah, little one handed snag that the ball
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  Speaker 1: was over his head, he just located and caught it.
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  Speaker 1: So he's got some pretty good, you know, ball skills
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  Speaker 1: there and and and down down the field, down the seam.
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  Speaker 1: So I I think he's a good player, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I I don't. I don't think he's a dynam you know,
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  Speaker 1: dynamic player. But it's a two time pro bowler, and
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  Speaker 1: I know he was a replacement guy. But but he's
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  Speaker 1: he's he's as good and he's better than solid and
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  Speaker 1: so I think, like you said, Davey and the guys
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  Speaker 1: around him make make it work. As far as what
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned about just uh, you alluded to the Christian
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  Speaker 1: Parker press conferences today at three pm that would be
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  Speaker 1: streamed live on all of our channels, So make sure
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  Speaker 1: and check that out. All right, Brian in Kansas City
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  Speaker 1: is next. Brian, what's up?
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, sir, morning, how are you I'm all right, man. Hey,
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  Speaker 10: you know how Jeremy's always asking you if you heard
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  Speaker 10: anybody today. Yeah, Well, the good news is you have
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  Speaker 10: Nate Newton's phone number. So if anything happens and you
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  Speaker 10: should hurt somebody, you now know who to call to
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  Speaker 10: get a pardon.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's just throw that out there. I'm sure other
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  Speaker 10: people have heard that news too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's it's it's an amazing story, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: And talking to him on the phone Friday and him
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  Speaker 1: telling that story, and I know he's told a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on the air yesterday and he Hanging with the
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  Speaker 1: Boys will be at Thursday, and I'm sure that'll be
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  Speaker 1: a really good show. But yeah, I mean that's what
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  Speaker 1: what uh. To be honest, I don't know exactly what
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  Speaker 1: that means for him, but he had I thought one
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  Speaker 1: of the best quotes of anybody I've ever interviewed. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: he had one of the best quotes ever when he said,
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  Speaker 1: when I asked her about what does this mean? Do
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  Speaker 1: you think it means anything? For ring of honor, hall
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  Speaker 1: of fame, and he said he named the three things
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  Speaker 1: that are important in his life right now that he
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  Speaker 1: has turned his life over to Christ getting in the
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  Speaker 1: Black College Football Hall of Fame. And then also this
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  Speaker 1: right now, this news that Jerry gave him the other day,
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  Speaker 1: and so he said that he goes, what I have
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  Speaker 1: is what I need. I thought that was a great
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  Speaker 1: quote and and really, you know, it's just a good
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  Speaker 1: mindset to have.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what I have right now is what I need.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes we look at it the other way around.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought it was amazing and what an amazing
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  Speaker 1: story because because he treats people the way you want
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  Speaker 1: people to be treated and he emits. He wasn't always
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  Speaker 1: that nice guy, you know. You know, he pushed around
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit of a bully. Not not here,
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  Speaker 1: not working for the Cowboys. He he doesn't whatever that
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  Speaker 1: you guys want want, and he does it with a
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  Speaker 1: smile on his face. He's good to everybody. Really is
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  Speaker 1: a pleasure to be around. And I'm glad that that
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  Speaker 1: news happened for him.
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  Speaker 6: That's great.
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  Speaker 9: I watched nick shots and got to see got to
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  Speaker 9: hear him talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: He comes across.
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  Speaker 10: You know, you never know with media personalities, some people
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  Speaker 10: can you know, you just don't know, you know who's
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  Speaker 10: genuine who's not.
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  Speaker 6: You know, who's just really.
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  Speaker 10: Good acting for the camera, but he comes across that way.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he really does.
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  Speaker 10: What you're describing is what my impression of Nate Newton
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  Speaker 10: from having watched the podcasts and all this stuff for
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  Speaker 10: years now. Yeh, So glad to hear that's the case. Hey,
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  Speaker 10: I'll move on to football.
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  Speaker 6: I think Jake Ferguson is a good, solid tight end.
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  Speaker 10: I'm glad Damian asked a question, but the first thought
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  Speaker 10: in my mind was I'm not even thinking about that
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  Speaker 10: in free agency of the draft, which means I already
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  Speaker 10: think that position is solid with him. Grevin s van Ford.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know, maybe we're done with the Scoommaker experiment.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, you hate to say that for a second
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  Speaker 9: round draft pick, but he just doesn't seem to have
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  Speaker 9: developed into you know that guy, right, And maybe he
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  Speaker 9: will somewhere else. You don't know, but you know, at
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  Speaker 9: this point, I would think maybe he'll be a salary
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  Speaker 9: cap casualty this year, knowing what we have span for it.
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  Speaker 9: My question for you this week is have you developed
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  Speaker 9: an opinion on the edge rushers enough to have three
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  Speaker 9: choices yet? So I just kind of fallen into I
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  Speaker 9: you know, I think the top two guys, Bay and Bailey,
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  Speaker 9: that seems to be.
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  Speaker 10: Consensus one and two. And then my third guy, like
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  Speaker 10: if he would make it to twenty, would be Howell.
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  Speaker 10: And I'll hang up and let other people give an
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  Speaker 10: opinion and listen to what you have to say.
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  Speaker 1: Man, thank you, you know, thanks for the call. You
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  Speaker 1: know I say this before, and you guys, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: draft as much as you guys want to. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not as kind of up to speed when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to some of those players past twelve, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but can kind of let the draft show do do
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  Speaker 1: that work. Chris, Chris been in the back, knows it
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  Speaker 1: really well too. But you know, I I do like
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  Speaker 1: in this It seems like some years I like it
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  Speaker 1: that free agencies first, and then some years I wish
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  Speaker 1: the draft was first. In this particular case, I like
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  Speaker 1: free agency being first. And I answered a mailback question,
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  Speaker 1: what's the biggest free agent priority? What position is the
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  Speaker 1: biggest free agent priority? And I said edge rusher because
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  Speaker 1: you just can't count on getting edge at twelve or twenty,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like you said, Baine and Bailey, they're probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to be there at twelve, and if they are,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to figure out why. You know, what's the
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  Speaker 1: reason that they've slipped to that or you know what.
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  Speaker 1: You know, because it's gonna happen, going to have pro days,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have interviews, and there'll be guys that
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  Speaker 1: jump ahead of them, or you know, they fall back,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe they jump up to the top five picks.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows, but it's hard to think that both those
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  Speaker 1: guys will be there. Either one of them probably won't
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  Speaker 1: be so so then yeah, there's other edge rushers, but
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  Speaker 1: it's very important to kind of solidify that as best
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  Speaker 1: you can in free agency. And still if you get one, great,
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  Speaker 1: because you can't have enough. I saw the Giants win
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in two thousand and seven with about
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  Speaker 1: twelve pass rushers, and so it works, and I you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get one if one falls in your lap, and
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  Speaker 1: you don't worry about it. But I do think that's
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  Speaker 1: a big important need right now, is to make sure
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  Speaker 1: that you can go into a season with some quality
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  Speaker 1: pass rushers assuming that you don't get one at twelve
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  Speaker 1: or twenty, because I don't know, if you want to
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  Speaker 1: reach you got to take the best player available at defense.
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  Speaker 1: And if it's linebacker, it's linebacker. If it's corner's corner,
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  Speaker 1: if it's linebacker, you know, if it's corner corner, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know that probably won't be the route. But but
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that that could certainly work. So I
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  Speaker 1: haven't gone that far to look at the next wave
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  Speaker 1: of rushers. But you know, they they liked as Araku
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  Speaker 1: and they got him in the forties, right, So I
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  Speaker 1: think I still think you can get a really good player,
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  Speaker 1: even if it's at twenty. All right, we got one
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  Speaker 1: phone line open here eight A A eight five five
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  Speaker 1: two two ninety seven. Another one is Cowboy Nico's in
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  Speaker 1: Colodo Springs. Cowboy Nico, what's up?
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  Speaker 11: Hey?
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  Speaker 4: What's up? Nick?
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  Speaker 11: How's it going everybody? I hope everybody's doing good?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you going?
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  Speaker 11: You know, honestly, I'm I'm a little I'm a little
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  Speaker 11: down today. I had a friend passed away yesterday from
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  Speaker 11: his five year battle of cancer. Oh, partially, while I
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  Speaker 11: wanted to call, I wanted I wanted to say something.
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  Speaker 11: And again, I don't want this to turn into like
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  Speaker 11: the Marshawn neland show where we ended up doing a
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  Speaker 11: lot of praises for the show because we're still doing
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  Speaker 11: Football Talk two. But I want to say this. I
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  Speaker 11: want to say this about the community. Irene and Sue
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  Speaker 11: have been the closest to me getting to know each other,
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  Speaker 11: and they both knew what was going on. They knew
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  Speaker 11: I was gonna have a little bit of trouble, and
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  Speaker 11: they shot me messages right away. And I want to
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  Speaker 11: say something about that. We may not want our sixth ring,
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  Speaker 11: Dallas Cowboy Nation, And as much as I want that ring,
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  Speaker 11: and it's as much as I know everybody Dallas Cowboy
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  Speaker 11: Nation wants that ring, we are winning this thing that
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  Speaker 11: Derek Eagleton and Nick and Nick's dad have started. This
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  Speaker 11: storyline has made us all winners. We are the Dallas Cowboys,
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  Speaker 11: and we're proving that we're the greatest fan base in
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  Speaker 11: NFL by something as small as reaching out because my
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  Speaker 11: friends passed away. Are you kidding me?
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: That's amazing.
• 16:52
  Speaker 11: I just wanted to say thank you to Derek. I
• 16:55
  Speaker 11: wanted to say thank you to your father.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Nick.
• 16:57
  Speaker 11: I wanted to say thank you to your mother and
• 16:58
  Speaker 11: as well as to you for that last thing before
• 17:02
  Speaker 11: I go. I'm not gonna put his information out there
• 17:05
  Speaker 11: so if Sargus Sue wants to talk about it, he will.
• 17:09
  Speaker 11: I will say this, everybody give some targets, Sue. He's
• 17:13
  Speaker 11: doing something phenomenal. And again I'm not gonna say what
• 17:16
  Speaker 11: it is, but trust me, just get some pop, Sargeant Sue.
• 17:20
  Speaker 11: As we go through our day. As I get out
• 17:23
  Speaker 11: of here, let's tag franch franchise kicking. I love that
• 17:28
  Speaker 11: I do, but I don't know if he's gonna play. Honestly,
• 17:31
  Speaker 11: that's just my opinion. I'm scared that he's gonna, you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 11: not want to play on that. But hopefully by the
• 17:37
  Speaker 11: moves that we're making, we do we're aggressive right now
• 17:41
  Speaker 11: or let's keep it going. Shot he said he wanted
• 17:43
  Speaker 11: to be aggressive. Let's keep it going. So I do
• 17:45
  Speaker 11: want to tag him. I would like to see a
• 17:46
  Speaker 11: longer deal, as everybody would with that though, I'm gonna
• 17:50
  Speaker 11: get out of your guys cares.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Here's the last.
• 17:52
  Speaker 11: Things I will say this. Every time I leave now,
• 17:56
  Speaker 11: always ask for help, sergeants, super presidents, and let get rowdy.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Love it, love it, cowboy Nico Man, thank you for
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the call, and thank you for saying that. You know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: we all we always need reminders like that. And I
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: couldn't be prouder of of what this show has become.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And and it happens every you know, even the Thursday
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: night shows that that they do on the spaces that
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Irene and Dylan and have uh you know created, and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and just it allows you guys to talk and and
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and more than just about football and tagging pickings or
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: not and signing this guy and trading for this guy,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's how you doing? What where
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you been lately?
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I having to deal with this? And so then they
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: guys check on each other, you become friends and and
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: never thought that I just that's not what what we
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: you know, had had. We didn't think that was going
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to happen.
• 18:59
  Speaker 10: I did.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: I didn't look that far. Maybe I could have. Maybe
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I was short sighted in that, but but really though,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: it's about you all. It's about the people. You guys
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: aren't friends with everybody on the show, but it's just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: it's just people. It's just people that are good. It's
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: just good people. And so yeah, you know football, you
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: know the Cowboys, you know the history and also you
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that's one thing is you share. You share a lot
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: because you're both you're all Cowboy fans, and they're all
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: frustrated because because you've been doing this for a while
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and you haven't seen Super Bowl, you haven't seen NFC Championship.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So you share the same things. You guys might have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: different jobs, live in different parts of the world, make
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you know different you know, uh, tax brackets and how
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: much money people make, share the same thing. You want
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to see that Dallas Cowboys star in the super Bowl,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and it's been too long, and for some of you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you've never seen it. So it's it's really cool that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you guys come together and and and you know, talking
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: on the shows and on the space and on social
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: media and everything else. As for you know, Nico said
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: this about Pickens. I'm afraid he won't play on it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I think he'll play on it. He may not practice
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in the off season, you know, and may not training camp,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: who knows, but I think he'll I think he'll play
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: eight million dollars, I mean, like, you know, like Hill,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that's that's pretty that's pretty hefty every every Tuesday paycheck
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: right there. I think he'll play on it. And you
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: don't have to, you know, like get a deal done.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So it's a very complicated contract. It really is. It's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: not one that's that's that's no normal because his season
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that he had was very very good, but he's had one,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: He's had one season like that. So when you when
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: you look at what he's done over four years, it's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: hard to think that you can pay him what everyone's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: what with the big guys are what Chase is making.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But he had a season, you know that that that
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: was really really good. So is he going to have another?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: See that, that's what you're paying for. You're not paying
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: for what he's necessarily done. What he's going to do
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: is he gonna have three more of those? If he is,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: then he then he's worth that money. So that's that's
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: the scary part here. His age is twenty four. I mean, god,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: block players like that up. So not the easiest contract
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in the world. All right, Allan, and Oregon is next.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Hey, Nick, first time caller. All right, go longtime fan.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I just want to say that I think the whatever
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: we do on defense, the new ideas and everything would
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: be great. I'm hoping we shift to three four. I
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: didn't know what your thoughts were on that, but I
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: remember when we did that with Purcel's.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: It.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: I mean it worked out.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, it did? It worked out. It did. They definitely
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: had the personnel for it, and they were They were
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: fortunate in that in that first draft and O five
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to to land a lot of guys that that can
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: help with that, not only Where but Spears, Canty, Ratliffe.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: That's one draft you know. I mean Burnett also in there.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you can. You don't even
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: have that many picks. I don't think that to do
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: it like that again. But I'll talk a little bit
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: of more more about the three four and and why
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: what my concern would be there, But do you have
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: other questions?
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just wondering, do you think uh, Saltman
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: and them could switch out to the D D end
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: instead of playing the D tackle in.
• 22:44
  Speaker 12: A three four.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: That's kind of what I was.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: That's that, Okay, that that kind of segues into my point.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And I think I might have said this last week
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: or two weeks ago. I I just what, I don't know.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And there's different variations of three to four because if
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I believe Aaron Donald played some of a three to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: four defensive tackle and he was also one of the
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: best in the history of the league. So usually your
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: defensive ends in a three to four are guys that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: just kind of take up space, they take up blocks.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: They're not gonna get a ton of stats. They're just
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: gonna be there. And so they're really defensive tackles. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: they're defensive ends in a three to four. And so
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you've got those guys here. I just wonder should they
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: be getting paid twenty million a year? I mean, like, like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: is that is that the right spot there? I mean,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas maybe could do that, but you're paying a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: lot for Quentin Williams, paying a lot for Osa Kitty
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Clark right now, you're paying a lot. So is that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the right move? Somebody's gonna play the nose, probably Clark,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: those other guys would play on the defensive end. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's if that's the smartest thing in
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the world to put them there. Now, maybe in this
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: type of scheme it would be awesome for them. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, do you have the edge of I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: as a Rocky and overshown could be those those guys
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and maybe you drive some But it's interesting,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that might be a question for
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Christian Parker today if he would if he would want
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to answer.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: That, yeah, I agree, all right, anything.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Else, Alan, No, all right, Hey, good to hear from you, Alan.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: And Oregon's our first time college. I swear if I could,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I think I've been. I think it's thirty seven thirty
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: eight states. If I could add one, it would be Organ.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I just haven't been to Oregon, and I just always
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I just think it seems like a cool place. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. I had a friend that lived there and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: he'd called me in the middle of the summer if
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it was sixty four degrees and I'd get mad, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I want to go to Oregon one day. I just
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: nothing's ever taken me there, but I do want to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: go one day. All right, Dylan, Let's go to Dylan
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: in Northport, Florida before our break here, Dylan.
• 24:55
  Speaker 13: Hey, how's it going.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 24:56
  Speaker 14: Man?
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: Hey?
• 24:58
  Speaker 15: So I haven't been able to today, so hopefully nobody's
• 25:01
  Speaker 15: mentioned this. But I see a lot of talk about
• 25:04
  Speaker 15: cutting Terrence Steel because this is the season to you know,
• 25:08
  Speaker 15: time of year to talk about the roster movies you
• 25:11
  Speaker 15: want to make all that, and that's one of the
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: ways you can save money. But I'm glad, But I'm
• 25:16
  Speaker 15: glad there's a lot of content guys and radio guys,
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: podcast guys coming around and mentioning this fact that there
• 25:23
  Speaker 15: ain't nothing out there, bro like to replace them with
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: nothing on the team. The free agents are going to
• 25:27
  Speaker 15: be expensive, and they're not that much better than what
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: you have, And so it's like, I get saving the money,
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: but what the heck are you going to do over
• 25:35
  Speaker 15: there to fix that spot? One thing you're going to
• 25:38
  Speaker 15: be able to do is draft a guy, And do
• 25:39
  Speaker 15: we really want to create a hole on an offense
• 25:41
  Speaker 15: that was really really good even with the problems they
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: had that the bad tackle play might cost you a
• 25:46
  Speaker 15: game or two. You just got to hope it's not in
• 25:47
  Speaker 15: the playoffs. But you move on from that guy and
• 25:51
  Speaker 15: just don't see a solution that's.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You know, look, you're using like rationale, Dylan, you know
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean that's what you're doing though,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, because that's you're right. You can just yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: save money, cool, say save money for what for another tackle?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Now you gotta get another one? And and and you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: can say all you want to move and getting over
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but then what who's the left tackle is? It, Nate Thomas,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: are you drafting one because it doesn't it seem like
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you wish they had three first round picks this year
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: because you know, you want the corner, you wanted linebacker,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you want a defensive end. You can't do all that,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: and you don't have anything in the second round. So
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's got to be defense. It's got to be defense
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: defense here. So I just don't think. I don't think
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it's that much of a need. Could you restructure? I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to do that with steel.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think you want to. I think you want to.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: You just gotta just gotta do it. He's gotta's I mean,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that's what it is.
• 26:45
  Speaker 15: There's plenty of other ways to free up space, to
• 26:47
  Speaker 15: leave that one alone and you can move on maybe
• 26:48
  Speaker 15: next year. I kind of feel the same way about
• 26:51
  Speaker 15: safety too, Like Millie Cooker is the nother name you
• 26:52
  Speaker 15: see off the toss round. I think Wilson's probably gone
• 26:55
  Speaker 15: if I had to guess, they're gonna profine him, but
• 27:00
  Speaker 15: you are going to create another hole and listen. I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 15: not a huge fan of Hooker, but I think he
• 27:04
  Speaker 15: is a starting caliber safety. You might not be the best,
• 27:07
  Speaker 15: but he at least can play, and you get him
• 27:09
  Speaker 15: a pass rush, maybe some guys in front of him,
• 27:10
  Speaker 15: and he'll be if he can be average, that's that's great.
• 27:13
  Speaker 15: But I'm not trying to move on from guys who
• 27:15
  Speaker 15: are starting level players, starting caliber players and having to
• 27:18
  Speaker 15: open up more holes to go fix when I already
• 27:20
  Speaker 15: have so many holes. It's like you're putting more holes
• 27:23
  Speaker 15: in the sinking ship instead of trying to fix the
• 27:24
  Speaker 15: ones that you got.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Exactly now, you make a lot of good points. Thanks,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: thanks Dylan for the for the call, and appreciate you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and I you know you. It's it just reminds me,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: you know, of of what Bill Parcells would say a
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: couple of times, will be two quotes come to mind,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: really his first year. You're like, you could just go
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: down the streets the gas station and and and just
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: pick up these guys and so yeah you want to,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah we'll just cut to steal and and and get
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: better there. But but who you know, I mean, you
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you you gotta protect you know, you got to protect
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: your your your quarterback. You know, I always say it
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: all the time. If you're gonna get it, you to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: get a brand new house. I mean you better get
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a fence, and that's what your offensive line does for you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: And so he may not be the best, but there's
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a lot worse out there than in Steel. So yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I'd be reluctant to change
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: to just openly cut him. And I also remember this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: when I think about this quote with Parcels not really
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a quote. This is more of a theory. And I've
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: told this story before, but I used Donovan Wilson for
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: an example, or any free agent that you're like, he's
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: probably gone and it's been okay, hasn't been that great.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: It's time to move on. Because that's exactly what everybody
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: if you can go back this far to two thousand
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: and two, that's or really two thousand and three, that's
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: exactly the way everybody felt about floes l Adams. It's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: just all right, this didn't work out. He's okay, he
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: gets fall star penalty, he's not that great. Does he
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: even like football? He's quiet, blah blah. And Bill Parcells
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: walked in his very first press conference with the media,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: or maybe a second went after the introductory press conference,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and he said, first thing we gotta do is we
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: gotta resign flows Al Adams, and everybody looked around like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: what really this guy is you kidding me? Six seven,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: three hundred pounds? And if you just did that when
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I said that, that's on you. Okay, we got to
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: move on past past that little phase. But you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: he was like, you gotta you gotta sign this guy,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he did and they went and made
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: five Pro Bowls. So sometimes my point is is, let's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: still underestimate Christiah Parker coming in here going yes, sign
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Noman Wilson. You kidding me. I mean, I'm not saying
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: he is do that or whatever, but there could be
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a player. Now, you guys would be crazy. If he
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: turns around and says, we're gonna we gotta resign Kenth Murray,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you guys would lose it. He'd be all right, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: you just you never know what the what the coordinator has,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: the vision he has for these certain players is different
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: than others, just like the that they had for Devonte
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Williams that other teams didn't have. All right, it's going
• 30:04
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  Speaker 3: How's it going good? Pretty good? Pretty good? I will
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  Speaker 12: I know enough.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I know the pressers this afternoon. I know Bradley Chubb
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: got released and the Dolphins and do we like him
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: or do we hate him because he has an injury
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: and play well and all that, But I haven't really
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: invested in the same way. I always need like a
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: little period to be like, all right, let mer reset
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and then I'll get back into it and catch up
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and all that good stuff. But I did want to
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: ask because I do always like I feel like a
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: lot of us listen to your show in particular because
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: we would all love to have a job or have
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: some sort of job that's that's associated with the cowboys
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: right to sit in some maybe not like officially, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: in our fantasy life, I guess. And so I always
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: like to know, like what like set the stage? So
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: press conference like today, right?
• 33:54
  Speaker 15: I noticed, like I don't feel like you're you.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Ask as many questions as some people are there, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: they're especially when they're not in the building, they're they're
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: going to ask questions and sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: So what goes into that? Do you preach, prepare or
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: are you listening? And is it something catches your attention
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: and you want a clarification or whatever. Generally speaking, I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: just interested in how these pressers work. I did already
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: talk to be, but I didn't realize he was also
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: streaming that he thought he's a man. I mean, I
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: should have realized that, though, I'm like, doesn't anybody else
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: do anything that Chris does?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Great question, Irene, great question that part. I think other people, Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: we have other people here for sure, but but you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: know they don't they don't do you know? He had
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: other pass rushers too, But DeMarcus ware was was out
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: there every every snap, you know what I mean.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: That's a good point.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: That's really what it comes down to. There are other rushers.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are other guys, but you know, if
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: it's third and seven, though, who do you want coming
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: off the edge there? And that's kind of the way
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: it goes down, all right. Thanks for the for the call.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I can kind of give you a little bit of
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: insight there. I mean, every every situation is different, you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: based off of the timing of the press conference too.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You know, three o'clock when is a little later in
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this type of press conference, usually around one or so,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: sometimes at eleven. We're fine with that because we have
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: shows well, you know, we we have podcasts all the
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: way up until about two o'clock. So this actually worked
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: out well for us. And then as far as me personally,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it just kind of depends on what we have, what
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we need. I probably will be there today, you know,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just because Patrick's and won't be there, and and Tommy.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It'll just be myself and Tommy. So I probably will
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: be there, but sometimes I'm back listening and then if
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: we need to write something quickly, it's easier for me
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to do that based off of what is said in
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: a press conference. Also, if you need any clarification, we
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: have the good fortune that the head coach actually does
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: walk by our offices, uh, to the press governments and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: then back the other way. Not that we stop them
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that much, but we could if we needed to. There's
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: usually there is one person that is always stopping him
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and talking actually too to be honest, and so loving
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: to tell stories to the coach, so they usually have
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: his attention there. But if we wanted to do that.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: As far as asking the questions, uh yeah, I mean,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: if it's needed, it's needed, but it's not gonna be done.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'll just say this, it's not gonna be done just
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to kind of see my face up there or hear
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: my own voice or whatever, or to try to let
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: other people know, you know, what my my thoughts are.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It'll be done because it's it's a real question. So
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: that's I'll just kind of leave it at that, all right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Eric in Arkansas? Eric, what's up?
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah? How's it going?
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: How are you?
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: Man?
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: I keep playing your things going?
• 36:47
  Speaker 19: All right?
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Programs all right for me?
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it'd be really all right if Arkansas could beat
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Alabama tonight. But whatever, I mean, it'll be really all
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: right if we have that. If that could be the case,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Again, I feel like there's other people
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: from Arkansas that have called and I've mentioned Razorbacks and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: they're like, I'm not really an Arkist. I can't remember,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: are you? You're not your Arkista's stay right?
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Okay, yep for sure. So you know, I don't.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Really bad year because if you lost the Arkansas that
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: was a bad year. I'm just kidding, all right.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Man, what do you got so this year? I'm really
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: ate up with it.
• 37:25
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: I'm watching proadcasts, I'm watching the mark drafts and all
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: this stuff, and I see a lot of us saying,
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: moved back, you know, use the twelve or move back
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: to twenty, move the twenty pick back. And I'm more of, man,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: let's stay the part where we are because gaining a
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: second round or a third round, we haven't done anything
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: with those second and third rounds. So let's, you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: let's get what we can get the twelve pick and
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: the twentieth picks. Me personally, I think we need safety help,
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: hand linebacker. I wish and I hope we can adrift
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: the d audition.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that part. I mentioned that earlier.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Eric, I mean, I'm with you.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I don't have to go into
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the draft trying to move back and get me a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: second or third rounder. But if you said linebacker and safety,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: and you're sitting at twelve and there is a linebacker,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: there's a safety, and there's another player that you really like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you'd go to fourteen, right, you go to fifteen?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, And that's that's what it was.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Jerry wanted Roy Williams two thousand and two. He wanted
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Roy Williams. I mean, there's no doubt about it. He
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: wanted Roy Williams. But when he was sitting at number six,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: and he knew he could go to eight and get them,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: he knew he could go to ten, from ten to
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: twelve and still get Michael Parsons. He has a knack
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of letting people tell him, well, who they're gonna take
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and who they're not gonna take, And so that being said,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: then you would do it. And then the third rounder
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: makes sense and second round it makes sense from that standpoint.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I don't go into it going
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: to God, gotta move back, gotta move back now, now
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: get the player, Get the player, because that you really want.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: But if you find out that you can you can
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: get some value out of it and still get what
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: you want, maybe somebody else in the second or third round.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Then yeah, I think that that is what the Cowboys
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: will do. They've been known to do that. But I don't,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think it'll be a secondary move, not
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: a strategy on draft night.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I'm hoping to I mean anything. I
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: would love for him to move up to get down.
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: I mean I move up, yeah, to get down, because
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think he'll be there at twelve.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I Okay, what are you giving up for that?
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm swapping my twils for.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Nine eight something like that.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah like that, And you know I'm keeping like that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: I'm hoping we probably have to give up, you know,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: probably with it one of the fifth sticks. But we
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: got a couple of fifth round picks, so I would
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: swapped my first my twelve.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be more than that, though, Eric, It'll
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: be more than a fifth to move from twelve to nine.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: That that's I mean think of it like this. The
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Cowboys when they got Tyler Geiden, I think it was
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty six, maybe it was like twenty
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: four to twenty eight, and they get they got a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: third for that. They went down five spots and got
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a third and from twenty four to twenty eight. So
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: if a team went from nine to twelve, that's going
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to be a second round pick probably.
• 40:39
  Speaker 14: Well.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: See I've seen something where we swap our twelve with Cleveland,
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: and are they I think we give it. I think
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: they're a little higher. I think they're eight or now.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, go ahead.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: We swapped on our twelve with Cleveland, and then we're
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: getting there thirty nine and they getting not twenty eight.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: So we're moving up. They're getting on twelve ten and
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: we getting dead thirty nine.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: See, I don't like that. I just I think the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: difference between the ninth best player and the or the
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: number nine pick and the twelfth pick is not as
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: great as the twentieth pick to the thirty ninth pick.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I just think you're thinking about it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: Go ahead, you think about this though. If you get
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: down and you're talking about the top of the second
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: this is possibility CJ's there, al so you got you
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: walk away with down to Allen. I take that all
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: day long.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a strategy. I mean it's it's it's just
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: it's a strategy. I mean it's weird. It's it's different
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: when you're putting names on it, like you you're putting
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: names on it, and you're actually and that's that's what
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you should do, because that's what it is for me personally.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at numbers right now, not so much names,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just I and also look at
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: fifth fifth year option. You know, I want I want
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: two of those. I want two fifth year options. I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to because think about Overshown. I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: mean this is Overshown's contract year. Have you even seen
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: overshown play enough? I mean, seriously, he's worn more numbers.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: He's worn more numbers then he's had starts, you know,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I think. I mean like he's he's moved around, he's
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: been in the news a lot. I heard this and
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: that says all the right things. But he's in a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: contract year because he's a four year deal. So I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like those fifthy year options. I want that, and I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: thirty nine just a little too far, I think for me,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I think I think twenty. Now, you know, if you
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: can figure out a way. It's kind of hard to
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: do that with one team unless there's another team that
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: has two picks. But it's hard to think you can
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: go from like twelve and move up to like nine,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: but then move twenty down. I don't know if there's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: another team that has that scenario, but that's kind of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: what you would want. Like, all right, if you're gonna
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: move up from twelve, you're probably gonna need to move
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: down from twenty and they just don't have the capital
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: in the second and third round to move up, you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, to actually get rid of that
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: right now. So now maybe it's a player, but I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: don't know who that would be. So anyways, good stuff.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what we're talking about, all right, Eric, Good,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: thanks for the call. Let's move to Rob in Vegas.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: Rob.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Hey?
• 43:19
  Speaker 11: Nick?
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: How everything?
• 43:21
  Speaker 13: I'm good. I'm going to say what vauch Lombardi says,
• 43:26
  Speaker 13: f those picks. I don't want quantities. We've tried that.
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: We tried that last year when we made the dumb
• 43:34
  Speaker 13: move of getting rid of Michael Parsons and saying, oh, yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: we just have a bunch of guys rush the passer,
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: and it was you saw how that worked out. Quality
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: is what we need. I if you have an opportunity,
• 43:49
  Speaker 13: you know, people say, well we play it out, doesn't
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: change anything. Are you kidding me? Michael Parson's made everybody
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: better in the back end, right, and a safety is great.
• 43:59
  Speaker 13: You know, this guy coming out of college bounds sounds good.
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: Without a pass rush, he won't be half the player, right,
• 44:07
  Speaker 13: You're right.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: And there's two what he's got two teammates that are
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: also that play in front of him at Ohio State
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: that are going to be drafted, and they may be
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: drafted ahead.
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: Of him exactly. So don't get me quality.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I hear you. I hear you. So you're so you're
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: saying you're keeping twelve and twenty, I mean, you're you're
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: keeping two first round if you're not trying to.
• 44:27
  Speaker 13: Actually I'm trying to trade twelve for the guy in Vegas.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, twelve, we think that that was, well, it's.
• 44:37
  Speaker 13: Going to be no, honestly, it's gonna be more than that.
• 44:40
  Speaker 13: But if I could trade twelve and next year is
• 44:44
  Speaker 13: like second round. I would do it in a heartbeat.
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: And I keep saying the same thing. If everybody's talking
• 44:52
  Speaker 13: about a three year window because of Dak, it's very
• 44:57
  Speaker 13: rare a rookie comes in and is better than these
• 45:01
  Speaker 13: top guys. In free agency, it just doesn't happen. And
• 45:05
  Speaker 13: that's why I really have no interest in the draft.
• 45:07
  Speaker 13: I to me, if you want to win a Super Bowl,
• 45:12
  Speaker 13: it starts in free agency. We've seen it the last
• 45:14
  Speaker 13: few years Philadelphia, especially Saquon Barkley was the difference maker
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: the wide receiver. To me, if you want to build
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: for the future two three, four years that you know,
• 45:30
  Speaker 13: the draft is definitely helps with that. But if you
• 45:32
  Speaker 13: want to win now, you have to do it in
• 45:35
  Speaker 13: free agency. And if I don't see the Cowboys do
• 45:38
  Speaker 13: anything in free agency, then it's I just know exactly
• 45:43
  Speaker 13: what's going to happen. And you know, Irene asked me
• 45:46
  Speaker 13: if I was going to Oxnard, and I said, well,
• 45:49
  Speaker 13: I'm going to wait to see what they do in
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: free agency. If they do something really good in free agency,
• 45:55
  Speaker 13: then yes. If they don't, then.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: No, we're gonna go. You're gonna be no.
• 46:00
  Speaker 13: Honestly, I honestly know because it's fun to hang out
• 46:04
  Speaker 13: with you guys and everything. But you know, sooner or later,
• 46:08
  Speaker 13: we got got to try something different. Now everybody's assuming that,
• 46:11
  Speaker 13: you know, Jerry's talking a good game, and you know, listen,
• 46:14
  Speaker 13: I've been around very long time in the sense as
• 46:18
  Speaker 13: a fan. No, it showed me. Don't talk, just show me.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 46:23
  Speaker 13: It's with Pickens. Show me, you tell me you want
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: to keep them, then let's knock this out. It's you know,
• 46:30
  Speaker 13: my fear with this new DC is I hope that
• 46:34
  Speaker 13: you know, Jerry could be very intimidating to young coaches
• 46:38
  Speaker 13: who are trying to wooar their way up. I hope
• 46:40
  Speaker 13: he doesn't, you know, I hope this d C doesn't
• 46:43
  Speaker 13: tell Jerry what he wants to hear, because Jerry would
• 46:46
  Speaker 13: love for him to say, oh, no, we got the pieces.
• 46:50
  Speaker 13: It's I could just change things. No, you do not,
• 46:54
  Speaker 13: you don't have the pieces. So I want him to
• 46:57
  Speaker 13: turn around to Jerry, Jerry, we need to revamps of
• 46:59
  Speaker 13: the defense big time. We need to go in free
• 47:02
  Speaker 13: agency and get this guy and this guy. You know,
• 47:06
  Speaker 13: That's what I would love to hear from this this DC.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 13: But yeah, like I said, the draft is fun. You know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 13: draft is hope, but I need proven guys to win.
• 47:20
  Speaker 13: To win a Super Bowl, you need proven players. And
• 47:23
  Speaker 13: it's like I said, if you've got a three year window,
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: let's go. You finally have the ammunition to make some
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: really really good moves. And I hope they do it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: But we'll see, all.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Right, we'll see, all right, Thanks for the call, Rob.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I kind of think twelve the number twelve pick for
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: for he's talking about Crosby. That's fine, I mean, that
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But any player like that, I
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: don't know if you if that would, if that would,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: that might be too much. I don't think you have
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to go to I really don't. I mean, like I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: it depends on who you who you're listening to. But
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to remember the contract part. When
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the player is getting and the team is getting of
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: the contract, you know they they are that there's value
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: there in absorbing contract from another team. That's why that
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that happens. So a little different scenario with with you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Mike and the Cowboys, just because because they're he needed
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a contract, you know, he needed a new one there,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: and so they Cowboys weren't really absorbing much or anything.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: But we'll see uh man I having that guy defensive
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: end and Quinn Williams and Osa in the middle. That
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: would be be pretty strong right there. You imagine how
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: good your your linebackers and cornerbacks and safeties all of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: a sudden, get I'm with you. I'm with you that
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Michael Parson's made everybody better and he maybe made it
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: worse when he when he left. Let's go to care
• 49:00
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  Speaker 1: starting with Cowboys Break here and a few minutes after
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  Speaker 1: mine after this show. All right, let's go to Philly.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce in Philly, what's up, man?
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  Speaker 6: What's uping?
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  Speaker 10: Nig?
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  Speaker 20: Long time? Man, how's it going?
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  Speaker 1: It's going good? You know, yeah, give you a here
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: we go. You know, I have a caller, Jeremy and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: DC always says, man, you heard anybody today? And I
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: say no, you know I can't. I couldn't hurt anybody
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  Speaker 1: if I tried. But Bruce and Philly. Being a Cowboy
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  Speaker 1: fan in Philly, maybe I should ask you, have you
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  Speaker 1: heard anybody today?
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  Speaker 20: No, I've never heard any not the day Nick, it's
• 51:30
  Speaker 20: been the last time I talked to you, you guys
• 51:32
  Speaker 20: were coming to Philly. We were talking about the weather.
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  Speaker 20: It's supposed to be all crappy, and it turned out
• 51:36
  Speaker 20: to be actually.
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  Speaker 8: Not a bad day.
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  Speaker 6: But nevertheless, it's been so long, man.
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  Speaker 20: Just real quick, I had a chance to take my kid.
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  Speaker 20: We came down for the Thanksgiving Day game.
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  Speaker 6: It was a great that was the high height of
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  Speaker 6: my feet.
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  Speaker 20: It seems like everything went downhill after that, but it
• 51:56
  Speaker 20: was just a great experience being there in Dallas. My
• 51:59
  Speaker 20: first time since the last game in Texas Stadium, so
• 52:03
  Speaker 20: to a Cowboys games now. So I'm going to turned up.
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  Speaker 20: But nevertheless, man, just getting into a real quick one
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  Speaker 20: of the things. I hear everybody talking about defense, and
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  Speaker 20: I didn't get a chance to, you know, do my
• 52:16
  Speaker 20: autopsy of the season and all that, so I'm well,
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  Speaker 20: try to just do it real quick. But I hear
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  Speaker 20: everybody talking about defense. But my concern is that we
• 52:26
  Speaker 20: don't give enough attention to the offense, particularly the offensive line,
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  Speaker 20: and I think that's the real key the Cowboys success.
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  Speaker 20: When I think of signature wins for the Dallas Cowboys,
• 52:39
  Speaker 20: the Steelers identify themselves with defense. Green Bay is always
• 52:43
  Speaker 20: gonna have a really good quarterback. Of teams, the Dallas Cowboys,
• 52:47
  Speaker 20: when they are really good, they have a dominant offensive line,
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  Speaker 20: and I think that's always the deodorant for everything Dallas.
• 52:55
  Speaker 20: I know that we want to draft defense, but I
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  Speaker 20: think we got to get these tackles that tackle at
• 53:01
  Speaker 20: center and that right tackle. They have to be what
• 53:04
  Speaker 20: we need them to be, and I think that's really
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  Speaker 20: what's going to lead back to being better.
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  Speaker 6: I think our offense, as bad.
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  Speaker 20: As our defense was, and it was, but our offense
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  Speaker 20: and those signature games on the road, they really didn't
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  Speaker 20: step up. I think the last signature road when we
• 53:21
  Speaker 20: had was in Pittsburgh. But other than that, we've seen
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  Speaker 20: the struggle and I think because we can't get the
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  Speaker 20: consistent o line play. So I just want you to
• 53:30
  Speaker 20: I want you to be just let me know what
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  Speaker 20: you think about how we want to allocate resources to
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  Speaker 20: offense and too, and even through the draft or through
• 53:39
  Speaker 20: free agency, do you see us doing something at less
• 53:41
  Speaker 20: tackle to stick with Guyton. I really just wanted to
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  Speaker 20: hear your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a great it's a great call, and
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  Speaker 1: you're making some really good points because yes, it's easy
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  Speaker 1: to look at defense and I think you could win. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you certainly could win with this offense. You know if
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: you that was that the thought processes is when you
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  Speaker 1: you know, how good does this defense need to be?
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  Speaker 1: For the offense the way it is? I mean, I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: think just a little bit better and this team could
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  Speaker 1: have been a lot better. And if you're gonna fix
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  Speaker 1: the offense at all, it's the offensive line because there
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: is some some inconsistency at left tackle, and Tyler Goeydon
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  Speaker 1: hasn't developed into the player that you want just yet.
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  Speaker 1: But you have young players and so you've you when
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  Speaker 1: you think about what they've done. They've drafted three, just
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: like they did in twenty eleven, eleven, thirteen, and fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: Three out of four years they drafted an offensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, and then they skipped a year, and then
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  Speaker 1: they got Frederick and then they got Martin. And they've
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: done that here. Three out of four years they've drafted
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  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman and Geydon and Booker and Tyler Smith,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: so and then bb in the third round. And you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Steals is what he is. You know, he's not super old,
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  Speaker 1: but he's he's not a young puppy either. So they've
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: got young guys that they're still trying to develop into
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that role. And I don't know how much more resources
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  Speaker 1: they can really put into it. Now it's his time
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  Speaker 1: just develop them. So I'm with you. I mean, it's
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: not it's not solid. I mean, I mean it's solid.
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  Speaker 1: It's not perfect over there, but I just think you
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  Speaker 1: can win. You can win games there. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: fix that defensive side of the ball. But there's that
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  Speaker 1: one wildcard, one wildcard there. Bruce is the Tyler Smith
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  Speaker 1: to left tackle. Now, I don't love it, I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's going to be All
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  Speaker 1: Pro at left guard. I think he's better there, just
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like Zach Martin was better there, just like Nate Newton
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was better there, and just like Larry Allen was better there.
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  Speaker 1: They were better, they were all pros. And but he's
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: got shot. He's got that in his you know, in
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  Speaker 1: his back pocket. If he wants to, and if they
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: they decide that that's the better option. That gives us
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a better five rather than playing him at left guard
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  Speaker 1: and figuring out who the tackle is. It's a much
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: better situation if he plays left tackle and TJ. Bass
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  Speaker 1: plays left guard, or Hoffman plays guard or whoever. If
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: they feel like that is absolutely the best option, then
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  Speaker 1: I think that they'll go that route. I just hope
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  Speaker 1: if they do that, I hope they give Tyler Smith
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  Speaker 1: enough time to prepare for that. Now he can do it.
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  Speaker 1: He's smart, but body type wise, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: you're different if your guard in your tackle. But they
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  Speaker 1: definitely have that if they want to go that route.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they will, but you know, it's it's
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: one of those contingency plans that you go into the
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: season going, well, if it really got bad, we could
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: do that so, and that's why you like those versatile
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: players like that. All right, Lester and Minnesota Lester. What's up.
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  Speaker 4: Morning, neck? How are you hey? I'm doing good. It's
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  Speaker 4: a great damn Minnesota man. A. Well, you know how
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: I feel about the offensive line, So I'll just make
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  Speaker 4: a quick comment about that. You know how I feel.
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  Speaker 4: I want. I want the best offensive line that we
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: have right now. You got my lineup. And part of that,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: you know, this is before the draft and and and
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: free agency and all. As part of that is moving
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: our left guard to left tackle. But anyway, that's not
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  Speaker 4: what I called for. Again, I know we're talking about
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: the draft and everything in free agency, and my my
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: my thing is is that I really think we need
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback of the defense. I think we need to
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: find in the free agency a veteran linebacker that can
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: readcover and tackle and then just go from there as
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: far as my opinion, because you know, like I said,
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: that's the quarterback of the defense man And shout out
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: to Nate for his pardon.
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: And then.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: Uh, like I always say, again, man, uh, Jenny Jim,
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be there forever. So I think this is
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: kind of like a reset or restart or whatever you
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: want to call it. I think from this point on,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: it should be the vision of the gym because he's
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: not leaving, he's not gonna get promoted, he's not gonna well,
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: he may retire one day, but he's gonna be there.
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  Speaker 4: He's been there the last thirty years. So I think
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  Speaker 4: the team vision should be his vision. And as far
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: as the draft, hey, man, like I said, man, we
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: got over three thousand picks out there. Man, if you
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: include the black collegist and then you UFL, I mean
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: that's not that's not part of the draft, but that's
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: part of the process. You can get some of those players.
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  Speaker 4: And that's all I got, man, Cowboys, because it's not
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: a it's dead time right now, So go Cowboys.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know that's the thanks for the call.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: You know, the NFL kind of their best to never
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: make it a really a dead period. You know, it's
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: always always in the news. I mean, you get you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: baseball is getting close to I guess starting spring training soon,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know hockey and basketball are going on
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: in college basketball and all that. But you know, the NFL,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: like the combines next week. You know, it's going to
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: dominate the headlines. That's what it is. Franchise tag. That's
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: why I have to open up the you know, the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the window and now we'll see who the the the
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: guys that are going to get the tag and and
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: all that. So the NFL does a pretty good job
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: of kind of keeping keeping their sport, you know, up
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: in the forefront. But yeah, I mean a lot of
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of options for this team to to get better,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: and we've seen it. They they've done a nice job.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: They do a really good job with undrafted players. They do.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: They've done a great job with the UFL or when
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it was USFL. Obviously, they've got a couple of All
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: pros on special teams from Turpen and Aubrey from that spot.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: So they do a really good job. And where they
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: struggle a little bit is I would think second third,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: fourth round because those guys have to help you and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: they haven't been as good there. So they don't have
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: a second third rounder right now. We'll see if they
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: end up getting there. All right, Jr. And Avondale Jr.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Morton?
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  Speaker 7: Nick?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you doing doing?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: Accent A two hundred and six days until the first
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: Sunday in NFL football. Next time we all get together
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: be less than two hundred days. So we're moving in
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: the right direction.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 7: So the lot all to talk about the draft and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: free agency, it's really whatever happens in free agency to me,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 7: dictates what they're going to do in the draft. My
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: biggest fear is there's a run on defensive players. We're
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: sitting there at twelve and the values not there. So
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: I think I've seen the scenario of trading twenty to Cleveland,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: moving up to six, taking downs, and then moving back
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: and then we get the third pick thirty nine. So
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: my question would be, how do you value the players
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: between twenty and forty? If you have a first round
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: grade on thirteen guys and then after that it's just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: a bunch of guys, then then do a move like that.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 7: Otherwise you're gonna have to be real careful about who
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 7: you pick with those two picks, because I don't know
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: that two guys makes that big of a difference, if
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: that makes any sense. And last thing is when do
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: you think the Cowboys when do we take a quarterback
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: to start developing. I know we got Dak for a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: few more years. But while that's a guy like club
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: Nick or one of these guys that's played a lot
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: of football is still available in the fourth of fifth round,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: do we make a move on that? And that's all
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: I got and have a great day and go Cowboys.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: All right, appreciate the call. You know, it's interesting you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: say that about the fourth round the Cowboys have. That's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of been the round that they've
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: done that. You know, they it didn't always work. I
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: mean in two thousand and nine, they they just signed
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Romo to a to a deal in seven. He was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: he was the guy. He was going to be the guy.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: He's you know, got him in the playoffs in a
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: couple of years and setting records and all that. And
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: they drafted Steven McGee in the fourth round of two
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine. Didn't work out, he didn't get the chance.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: He wasn't you know, it wasn't worth the pick probably,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: but that whole draft was bad. But you know, they
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: then they take Dak in twenty sixteen, and you know,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Romo at that point was been a starter now for
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: you know, eight or nine years, been in the league
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: for a while. So I think that's the round that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: did you start looking at that? You know, they they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: don't bypass quarterback when they when they do their evaluations.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, they they're going to look at all of them.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: So uh yeah, they if there's a quarterback that they
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: that they like and that will fault that maybe that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: falls to the fourth round, or just just somebody that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: they think that they could develop. Now let's not forget
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: that they did that with with Milton to try and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: develop him. He's a young player as well. This is
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: his third year, so they they see some things in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: him that they want to develop. But that doesn't mean
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: you would go away from it if there was someone
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: that they that they liked that fell in their lap.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I always think of Washington drafting Robert Griffin
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: with the second pick in the draft, and then the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: third round they got Kirk Cousins. You know that that
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: might not have helped situation there with Robert Griffin, but
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: you know, if you look at, you know, the guys
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: that are available now, you'll do that. Going back to
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: another thing that you said though about about you know
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: where these players are going to be and how many
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: first round grades you have. You know, like you said,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: thirteen first round grades. Well, i've heard eighteen before. I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: mean this year, they're still working on that. They're still
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: figuring all that out. But what if it was eighteen seventeen,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: let's say seventeen first round grades that when they when
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the draft starts, they've got seventeen first round grades. That
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: would be a little high, but I've seen that many
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: before on their board. If that's the case and you're
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: sitting with twenty, you're gonna you're gonna get them both.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it's it's a pretty good assumption that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: your seventeen players are not gonna go in the first
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: nineteen picks. One of those guys is going to be there.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Because teams, you know, evaluate these guys differently. So if
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: that's the case, and so that that's something we just
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: don't know, we won't really know. And you know, sometimes
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: they tell you differently, you know, like after the fact
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, we had them in the first
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: round grade or whatever it is. But you know, so
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I think you have to kind of play that and see,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like you you talked about twenty to you know, forty
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and being a bunch of guys. But I think the
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: big question is twelve to twenty, that's the sweet spot.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: That's where we're gonna see a lot. If the Cowboys
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: had eleven to twelve first round grades and they're just
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: hoping that they, you know, they get one of them
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: at least at twelve, then trading at twenty makes a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: lot more sense. But if you're sitting there closer to
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: twenty first round grades, maybe sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, thinking you
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: got a really good, really good shot, and and you know,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe you can even move from twenty to eighteen
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: not going to cost you as much. You got to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: figure out where to do that. But my point is
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: is that I think it all determines on how many
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: first round grades that you have. Let's go Jeremy in
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: Hey, Nachle's co on man, how are you.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: I'm good.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 14: I'm good. It's been a couple of weeks. But just
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 14: wanted to kind of give my two cents on like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 14: this talk about getting the guy from Vegas. Yeah, I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 14: think yeah, I mean the idea of having that front,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 14: like you were saying, you know, but at the same time,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 14: at what cost, right, And I think that a lot
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 14: of us, I mean a lot of fans have been
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 14: really frustrated by Jerry, you know, saying that we can't
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 14: afford things when they think that we can. And I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 14: think that's the biggest thing, is that we got a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 14: lot of fans that think that we can afford things
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 14: and that he's just like sitting on money for some reason,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 14: or you know, we're not using all of our cap
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 14: or whatever kind of thing. But you know, you really
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 14: got to think about how, I mean, I want to
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 14: win now, right, we all want to win now. But
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 14: do I want to sit through a year of you know,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 14: one in fifteen. Do I want to sit through, you know,
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  Speaker 14: a couple of years of being in cap hell. I
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  Speaker 14: remember the early two thousands, that feeling every year going
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  Speaker 14: in knowing that there was just no way, you know,
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  Speaker 14: we could do anything in free agency because we'd tied
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  Speaker 14: up all our money with all these superstars. I think
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  Speaker 14: that looking at the super Bowl this year especially, you know,
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  Speaker 14: you've got to have those second tier players, and I
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  Speaker 14: think that's where most teams are winning now is with
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  Speaker 14: the second tier, not necessarily their superstars, do you know
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  Speaker 14: what I mean. Everybody's got a few superstars that they
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  Speaker 14: can pay, but you've really got to hit with those
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  Speaker 14: second tier players, and that I think is going to
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  Speaker 14: be the key to this team being successful next season
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  Speaker 14: is not necessarily getting you know, a big name defensive end,
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  Speaker 14: but getting a couple of guys that can really, you know,
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  Speaker 14: be kind of second tier, share time with the other guys,
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  Speaker 14: and really make a good cohesive unit. Because that's what
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  Speaker 14: we saw in Seattle with that defense, right, So I
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  Speaker 14: just kind of want to get your thoughts on that,
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  Speaker 14: Go Cowboys man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're definitely right about that. That was the
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  Speaker 1: that was the recipe for their success. And even if
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about second tiers, I mean, there's there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people that wouldn't even put Sam Donald in
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  Speaker 1: a second tier for a quarterback. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know it's different now, you know, but but but he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a guy that that it was
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  Speaker 1: just solid, doesn't make a lot of mistakes. And you
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  Speaker 1: saw that, you know, talent wise, who's going to have
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  Speaker 1: a better career, Drake may or Sam Donald. I Mean
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  Speaker 1: I remember getting asked right before the game, who's got
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  Speaker 1: the best quarterback? And I and I was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: a tough question because talent wise, you would think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be Drake May. But for this game, for
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  Speaker 1: this moment, do you want the more experienced player. He's
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  Speaker 1: been around, he's seen seven different teams and you know
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  Speaker 1: he's kind of even killed and built for this moment,
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  Speaker 1: and as it turned out, you know he was there now.
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  Speaker 1: But to but to talk about what you're saying, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why they haven't been as good. Those second, third,
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  Speaker 1: fourth round picks just haven't developed like they they they
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  Speaker 1: should have, or like you need them to. Jake Ferguson
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  Speaker 1: has you know, that's one Deron Bland, but but there
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been a whole lot of others. You know, Cooper Bebe,
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  Speaker 1: I think you could throw in there, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: from but from a defensive side to the ball, those
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  Speaker 1: linebackers you need, you know, marrislea foul to to really
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  Speaker 1: take that leap. You needed Sam Williams to do that.
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  Speaker 1: You need those kind of guys to take that jump,
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  Speaker 1: and it hasn't always happened. All right, Our last caller
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  Speaker 1: today is going to be Sebastian and Savannah Georgia. Sebastian,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: what's up? How we doing good? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 12: I'm doing good. I just wanted to call in real
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  Speaker 12: quick and give some opinions after watching the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 12: and seeing how those teams are compowed, and I've been
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 12: on the train of not signing George Pickens. I know
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 12: everybody is key Jeep, keep Cheep. I don't feel like
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 12: keeping Jeep makes your team better because we have so
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  Speaker 12: many defensive needs. I'm in the camp of franchise tag.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 12: I'm fine with that franchise dagger trade. I'm fine with
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 12: that as far as our picks go for the this year,
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  Speaker 12: I want to be picking in the first round twice,
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  Speaker 12: no matter what we do. I don't care if they
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  Speaker 12: trade back and get extra picks. As long as we're
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  Speaker 12: still picking in the first round twice, I'm.
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  Speaker 13: Happy with that.
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  Speaker 12: Where I say, if you look at the teams that
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  Speaker 12: went to the Super Bowl, Stefan Diggs is huh, Treyvon
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  Speaker 12: Diggs brothers on the team he shut down. These massive
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 12: great receivers are shut down. I don't think we need
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 12: two A class receivers to survive this league. I think
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 12: we need a much better defense. So if you give
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  Speaker 12: George Pickens thirty five million dollars, forty million dollars, whatever
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  Speaker 12: the case is, you can't possibly build a better team
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  Speaker 12: that's going to actually help you win more games with
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  Speaker 12: the both of them. Last year we got seven and
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  Speaker 12: a half games out of it. I want to see
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  Speaker 12: this team improved greatly and I don't, And I think
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: that this will fall in the camp of another bad
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  Speaker 12: contract if we extend him. And then also I feel
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 12: like you kind of got to wait eighteen months to
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 12: see the type of relationship you have with the person.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 12: Who the person really is. So I franchise tag him,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 12: see how he handles that. And if you go and
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 12: have a great season and you make it deep in
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: the playoffs, then you can extend him in the next season.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 12: But you have a great day, I help everybody's going well, or.
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  Speaker 1: You can franchise him again. You could certainly do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's what makes this this a very interesting contract.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: It's just not a normal one, and it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to see. You can you can
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: argue both sides to that. You can say, well, these
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: two guys only got you seven wins, true, so fix
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: the defense and see if you can get to eleven
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: or twelve, you know, Or you can say, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't help you, So let's get rid of pickings,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: get another guy and uh, and they're still going to
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: fix the defense and hope that both of those can
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: can can help you get there, and you'll have more
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: money to help with that defense, like like you're saying.
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  Speaker 1: So there's there's different ways to to to go about it.
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  Speaker 1: I still think Jerry is you know, he's usually not
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  Speaker 1: one that's gonna get rid of a star player, and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: it probably it hurt him to do that with Micah.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a different relation ship obviously because he
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: hasn't been here as long, but he still looks like
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: a star player. And I just have a hard time
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: thinking the Cowboys would do that again. So we'll see.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: The negotiations hopefully are starting, but you know, you don't
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: want to drag drag on too much because you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they can get a deal done, that would certainly
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: help them in free agency as far as having some
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: money to do more things. All right, great, great show, guys,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate all the calls. We've got thirteen calls. Did a
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  Speaker 1: really good job. We'll be here next Wednesday. We'll do
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: it again next Wednesday as well. So for Chris Beam,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nick Eatman. We'll see you then on Cowboys Storyline.
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