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Ruby Franke: The Family Vlogging Controversy Explained | Latest Update · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: Ruby Franke, a controversial family vlogger who shocked the YouTube space.
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  Speaker 2: And raised eyebrows around the world.
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  Speaker 1: Her vlogs were not the happy family channel videos you
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  Speaker 1: would expect from a YouTuber, but instead a nightmare of
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  Speaker 1: child punishing her children in ways that some people would
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  Speaker 1: rather just receive the belt. And the drama eventually spread
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  Speaker 1: so large that not only was she convicted in court,
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  Speaker 1: but an entire Hulu docuseries was created to show the
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  Speaker 1: horrors that happened not only in front of the camera,
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  Speaker 1: but behind it. Crime, conspiracy, cults, serial killers, and murder,
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  Speaker 1: all things that I love to consume, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you do too, you sick, twisted, beautiful, intellectually-minded freak. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: today we are talking about the infamous Ruby Frankie. We
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  Speaker 1: all know how much I love family vlogging channels, don't we?
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  Speaker 2: They're my favorite. And by they're my favorite, I mean
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they should be illegal. I don't like them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like them one bit. I did cover Ruby
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  Speaker 1: Frankie very briefly in a video. maybe like a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't go deep dive into it, but she's resurfacing on
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  Speaker 1: the internet and in court and because of this docu-series.
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  Speaker 2: So I figured we'd do a deep dive into this notch.
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  Speaker 2: So without further ado, let's unbuckle our seatbelts, go Mach
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  Speaker 2: 5 down the highway, slam on the brakes, and bust
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  Speaker 2: through this windshield into this POS family vlogger together.
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  Speaker 1: So Ruby was born in Utah in January of 1982
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  Speaker 1: to Chad and Jennifer Griffiths, growing up with three sisters, Ellie, Julie,
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  Speaker 1: and Bonnie. Her family was born in Utah, which was
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  Speaker 1: also deeply involved in the Church of Jesus Christ of
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  Speaker 1: the Latter-day Saints, the LDS Church. We've done a lot
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  Speaker 1: of videos about that. You can go watch those ones, but...
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  Speaker 1: some shady stuff sometimes, which is better known as Mormonism.
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  Speaker 1: And this belief would shape not only her life, but
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  Speaker 1: her children's as well. And later in life, she would
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  Speaker 1: marry Kevin Franke, a former professor of engineering at Brigham
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  Speaker 1: Young University in Provo, Utah on December 28th, 2000. And together,
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  Speaker 1: they adopted a structured approach to parenting, which was heavily
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  Speaker 1: influenced by religious beliefs. They emphasized obedience, self-reliance, and regimented
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle for their children, often framing these values as essential
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  Speaker 1: for their growth and success. Which, like, on the surface,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to each their own. That doesn't sound so.
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  Speaker 2: Bad, I guess. You know, if you're for religion, against religion,
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  Speaker 2: that's your own thing, but so far... We seem okay.
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  Speaker 2: Buckle up.
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  Speaker 1: So as the couple's family grew, Ruby saw an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to document their lives and share her parenting philosophy with
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  Speaker 1: a broader audience. So the launch of the eight passengers
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  Speaker 1: in 2015 marked the beginning of her vlogging career and
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  Speaker 1: the end of these kids' safe, private childhood.
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  Speaker 2: Just, I can't, I can't stand, I can't, I can't stand.
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  Speaker 2: Can't stand people that exploit their children. Jail, oh wait,
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  Speaker 2: she's already in it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving it away, let's continue. So Ruby felt the
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  Speaker 1: need to share this part of her life. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of mothers think their way of teaching and raising their
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  Speaker 1: child is the best way. Not all mothers, I think
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  Speaker 1: a good mom always thinks there's room for improvement. I
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  Speaker 1: think that makes a really good parent. But Ruby, nay nay,
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  Speaker 1: she thought she was perfect. But sometimes they just wanna
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  Speaker 1: share their life experience and document their children, which again
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  Speaker 1: is like okay on the surface if it's just here
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  Speaker 1: and there and it's with friends and family, not with
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  Speaker 1: the entire world and every moment of their lives. So
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  Speaker 1: in 2015, she created the channel Eight Passengers, a joke
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  Speaker 1: that mentioned how many people were along for the ride
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  Speaker 1: in her.
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  Speaker 2: Family of eight. It's not that funny. It's not that funny.
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  Speaker 1: Herself, her husband, along with her six children, Sherry, Chad, Abby, Julie, Russell.
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  Speaker 3: And Eve.
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  Speaker 1: And our audience began to expand with her semi-relatable content
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  Speaker 1: about raising children and experiences as a mother. And she
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  Speaker 1: had a pretty loyal fan base of moms and others
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  Speaker 1: entertained and even inspired by her take on parenting and
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  Speaker 1: eventually she would reach her peak of popularity garnering around 2.5
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  Speaker 1: million subscribers on her over 1 billion views by mid-2020
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  Speaker 1: which is insane. However, with more eyeballs on her channel
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  Speaker 1: people began to realize that she definitely wasn't an ordinary
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  Speaker 1: family channel and something was off about her treatment of
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  Speaker 1: her children. And the treatment of her children was mostly
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  Speaker 1: on camera. The only way the audience could see their
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  Speaker 1: lives are going since they're not only on flip phones,
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  Speaker 1: but because she's the only one allowed to use technology
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  Speaker 1: and record, at least from what I could gather.
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  Speaker 4: No texting at the dinner table. No texting.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, her punishments are insanely ironic by nature
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  Speaker 1: because she would be punishing her child for texting at
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  Speaker 1: the dinner table while she had a huge camera pointed
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  Speaker 1: in their face.
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  Speaker 2: The irony is just spelt out all over the place.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the worst controversies was the admission on
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  Speaker 1: camera in one of the vlogs of one of the children,
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  Speaker 1: which was Chad, describing how he was grounded from his
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  Speaker 1: room for seven months. What?
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  Speaker 2: Did he murder someone? That's a jail sentence.
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 4: My bedroom was taken away for seven months and then
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  Speaker 4: you give it back like a couple weeks ago. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think our viewers know that.
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  Speaker 6: He was sleeping on a beanbag.
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  Speaker 4: I've been sleeping on a beanbag since October.
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  Speaker 1: So instead of sleeping in his bed, he had to
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  Speaker 1: sleep on a beanbag and his mother was sitting next
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  Speaker 1: to him laughing and smiling like it was the funniest
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  Speaker 1: thing ever. Oh, my son has a perfectly fine room
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  Speaker 1: and what he did wasn't that big of a deal,
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  Speaker 1: but it makes for great content.
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  Speaker 2: So tell us how miserable you are, Chad. Just sick.
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  Speaker 3: She's sick.
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  Speaker 2: I hate her. So I don't like this.
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  Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait. What is the reason he would
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  Speaker 1: deserve such a punishment? You know, ask yourself that. Well.
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  Speaker 4: That's the reason that's been in my head. It's pretty funny,
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  Speaker 4: but now that I look back at it, it's pretty depressing. No,
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  Speaker 4: we never told our viewers. I woke Russell up at
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  Speaker 4: 2 in the morning and told him that we're going
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  Speaker 4: to Disneyland and he has to pack. And he got
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  Speaker 4: up and made his bed all neatly and then packed
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  Speaker 4: all his clothes in a suitcase. And then he walked
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  Speaker 4: out the door and I'm like, Russell, he's like, what?
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  Speaker 4: And he's all happy.
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  Speaker 1: If that's grounds for grounding your child and banning them
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  Speaker 1: from the room for seven months, I should literally be
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  Speaker 1: in a 30-year sentence in my parents' basement right now. Like,
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  Speaker 1: so mild, so innocent. Like, that is funny. That is
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  Speaker 1: some shit I would pull, like... They just weren't allowed
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  Speaker 1: to be kids. Like it didn't harm anyone. Made a
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  Speaker 1: couple people a little sleep deprived for the night.
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  Speaker 2: My God.
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  Speaker 1: So when he's laughing and telling the story, she looks
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  Speaker 1: at him very displeased, stating that if it's so funny,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he needs more time to learn his lesson. And
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't even in his room. He was sent to
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  Speaker 1: the family room and had to sleep there for seven days.
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  Speaker 1: months not his bedroom the the family room like I
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  Speaker 1: can't even imagine like just can you imagine no privacy
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  Speaker 1: for seven months as a at this point I don't
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  Speaker 1: know exactly how old he is but a teenage boy
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  Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people don't have that
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  Speaker 1: option but to have that option and it just to
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  Speaker 1: be stripped away from a person that you think that's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to protect you and respect you and it's just
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  Speaker 1: It just, it makes me really sad. It makes me
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  Speaker 1: really sad for this kid. Like, obviously they're at a
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  Speaker 1: point where they are privileged, but at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: other side of the coin, they're living in a prison.
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  Speaker 1: And they even talk about the daughter next to them
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  Speaker 1: who got her phone taken away for months, stating that
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  Speaker 1: they can't call their friends. And then they change the
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  Speaker 1: topic and talk about how they can't hang out with
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  Speaker 1: their friends. To which Ruby says they can hang out
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  Speaker 1: with their friends with no problem. However, what she doesn't
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  Speaker 1: realize is that their friends live far away and that
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  Speaker 1: they can't hang out with them since they have no
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  Speaker 1: communication with them. And I think she realizes that her
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  Speaker 1: kids literally have no friends and can't hang out with
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  Speaker 1: friends if they do have them, not only because they
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  Speaker 1: can't see them, but probably because they judge how their
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  Speaker 1: mother treats and disciplines them. She's creating a cult in
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  Speaker 1: her own home, or she did create a cult. She's
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  Speaker 1: isolating her children and she's controlling them, not in like
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  Speaker 1: a motherly way, like how you're supposed to teach your
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  Speaker 1: kids stuff and, you know, protect them from, you know, harm.
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  Speaker 2: She's just a f * * *. menacing cult leader
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  Speaker 2: amongst her family.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just awful to watch, and there is
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  Speaker 1: no smiling from the children other than to cope. Not
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  Speaker 1: out of fun or excitement about their lives, but literally
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  Speaker 1: just to cope.
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  Speaker 2: You can see her face too.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell that she's realizing what she's doing to
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  Speaker 1: her children, but just refuses to change.
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  Speaker 2: Just a classic, classic. narcissist.
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  Speaker 1: And it's hard to justify this behavior and it seems
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  Speaker 1: that the audience also agreed with this, thankfully. Considering I
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  Speaker 1: had to make this video, you can tell people did
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  Speaker 1: not like the response to this. But another horrible disciplinary
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  Speaker 1: action was the lunch deprivation incident. And this incident involved
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  Speaker 1: the six-year-old daughter, Eve. And according to Ruby in her vlog,
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  Speaker 1: she states her daughter's teacher texted her and told her
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  Speaker 1: that her six-year-old did not pack lunch.
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  Speaker 6: I just got a text message from Eve's teacher.
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  Speaker 7: She said that Eve did not pack a lunch today
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  Speaker 7: and can I bring a lunch over to the school?
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  Speaker 1: And she would then ask Ruby to bring a lunch
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  Speaker 1: for her because she's at lunch without food. And Ruby says,
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  Speaker 1: this happens frequently. And she knows her teacher is uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: with her not having a lunch and it would ease
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  Speaker 1: her discomfort if she did have a lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Her six-year-old daughter is going to school with no lunch
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  Speaker 2: as a punishment. She's starving her children as punishment frequently.
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  Speaker 2: But instead of doing what a loving mother would do
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  Speaker 2: and bring a lunch, she texts the teacher back.
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  Speaker 7: I responded and just said, Eve is responsible for making
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  Speaker 7: her lunches in the morning and she actually told me
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  Speaker 7: she did pack a lunch.
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  Speaker 1: And the natural outcome is that she's going to have
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  Speaker 1: to be hungry.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Ruby Frank said about her daughter.
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  Speaker 7: So the natural outcome is she's just going to need
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  Speaker 7: to be hungry.
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  Speaker 1: So her six-year-old daughter forgot to pack her lunch and
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  Speaker 1: is going to have to suffer the consequences and just
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  Speaker 1: be hungry. But that alone is not the worst part,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not. The worst part is, is that
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  Speaker 1: Ruby doubles down, stating that.
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  Speaker 4: And hopefully, hopefully nobody gives her food and nobody steps
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  Speaker 4: in and gives her a lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Bitch, what? Oh my God. I want to go Undertaker
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  Speaker 2: on her ass and just.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, like, this is an... evil woman.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that she's straight-faced talking about her six-year-old child
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  Speaker 1: in that way, hoping they starve for lunch to teach
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  Speaker 1: them a lesson about packing their lunch is actually the
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  Speaker 1: definition of evil.
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  Speaker 2: And her punishments just go on and on. Things that
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  Speaker 2: most people would.
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  Speaker 1: Probably just get grounded for or like their phone taken
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  Speaker 1: away for like, you know, a week or something.
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  Speaker 2: But not this family.
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  Speaker 1: Ruby is just like to the extreme and past that line.
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  Speaker 1: And another notable point punishment she gave to her children
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  Speaker 1: was at the table, filming them and their reaction, ready
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  Speaker 1: to give them possibly one of the dumbest punishments. And
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  Speaker 1: this punishment was putting all of their stuff in a bag.
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  Speaker 1: If they wanted something out of the bag, they had
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  Speaker 1: to pay for it cash, like real money, cash money.
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  Speaker 7: You have something in the bag that you would like out.
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  Speaker 7: You can pay cash for it. So you learn the
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  Speaker 7: value of your items.
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  Speaker 1: And this was to teach them to understand the value
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  Speaker 1: of their items. They could also do a chore equivalent
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  Speaker 1: for the cost of the item as well. But to
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  Speaker 1: make things More fun, whatever they didn't buy back out
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  Speaker 1: of the bag by the end of the day, would be.
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  Speaker 2: Thrown in the trash. How fun, mom! How fun! What? Like,
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  Speaker 2: there was a- there's a moment in there where it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: there may be a lesson in there somewhere, you know,
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  Speaker 2: earning your stuff, I get that, but then throwing it
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  Speaker 2: in the trash? Just- Insane.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I could go on and on about
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  Speaker 1: how much she mistreated her own children and how her
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  Speaker 1: obnoxious whining and behavior was just appalling. But that would
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  Speaker 1: literally take hours and hours. And I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: spend that much oxygen on this bitch.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 2: So I digress. We'll move on.
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  Speaker 1: So finally, peer pressures from the audience steered drama channels
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  Speaker 1: and others to look into this family channel, pointing out
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  Speaker 1: the horrors going on camera. So CPS and DCFS were
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  Speaker 1: called to check on the children. However, no action was
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  Speaker 1: taken during those times. And this happened multiple times. The
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  Speaker 1: neighbors knew of their actions, but were unable to do
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  Speaker 1: anything about it, unfortunately. So her audience began to turn
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  Speaker 1: on her, realizing she was not this good family mom
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  Speaker 1: she pretended to be because it was impossible for her
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  Speaker 1: to hide from her true colors, even from behind the camera.
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  Speaker 1: And things would just get worse when Ruby would make
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  Speaker 1: a new friend named Jodi Hildebrand, a self-proclaimed mental health counselor.
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  Speaker 1: And Jodi owned and ran Connections Classroom, which was a
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  Speaker 1: life coaching program to promote extreme ways of parenting and strategies.
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  Speaker 1: And Ruby became closely knit with this business with Jodi.
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  Speaker 1: With videos like this to be relatable to parents who
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  Speaker 1: experience the same things. You guys, it is time for
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  Speaker 1: back to school. This is what morning school routines used
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  Speaker 1: to look.
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  Speaker 7: Like in my home before I knew about structure and boundaries.
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  Speaker 6: Get up!
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  Speaker 2: Have you brushed your teeth or fixed your hair?
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  Speaker 1: And Ruby was already in with this strict way of
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  Speaker 1: parenting and having Jody in her life was encouraging this
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle even more like an echo chamber of bad.
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  Speaker 2: F * * * ing ideas.
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  Speaker 1: And it became so extreme that her husband began to
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  Speaker 1: dislike the treatment she was doing towards her children. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he disliked it. Step up, bitch. Sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting really mad. I'm getting really mad. I also need
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  Speaker 1: to put my glasses on. But this eventually would lead
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  Speaker 1: to Ruby kicking Kevin out of the house. It's insane
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  Speaker 1: that she would just continue this horrible mindset, though. Thinking
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  Speaker 1: it's best for her family with her equally insane therapist friend, Jodi.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll come back to talk more about her... husband
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  Speaker 1: because it's just a rabbit hole with him as well.
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  Speaker 1: His unfortunate name, Kevin, which is my dog's name, and
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  Speaker 1: he's a precious little angel. Not the husband, my dog.
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  Speaker 1: And Ruby would continue to fall out of more relationships,
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  Speaker 1: that of her siblings and her extended family as well.
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  Speaker 1: And her obsession with Jodi's teachings even made her two
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  Speaker 1: oldest children, Cherry and Chad, become distasteful of her, becoming
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  Speaker 1: vocal about her sick relationship with her new friend. And
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  Speaker 1: it might have been more than just a little friendship.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things going around online, but I'm not gonna say
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  Speaker 1: anything because I don't know for sure. So they had
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  Speaker 1: already been kicked out of the house due to them
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  Speaker 1: being above the age of 18, which is exactly what
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  Speaker 1: she wanted out of her children when they turned 18,
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  Speaker 1: to get the f * * * out of Dodge.
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  Speaker 2: My kids are not welcome to come live with me
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  Speaker 2: after they're 18. I am very straightforward about that.
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  Speaker 1: Chad had been kicked out of the house during her
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  Speaker 1: friendship with Jodi, a problem that stemmed from him doing
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  Speaker 1: what teenage boys do.
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  Speaker 2: You know, off or whatever. I don't want to say it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to, it's weird.
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  Speaker 1: But he did those things made out with his girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: behind his mom and Jody's back while they were.
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  Speaker 2: In the house.
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  Speaker 1: He confronted Jody saying like, hey, I did these things.
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  Speaker 1: And he felt like he needed to confess to Jody.
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  Speaker 1: And by doing that, needed to confess to his mother
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  Speaker 1: as well. So he would go up to his mother
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  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I'm struggling with this, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't be doing this, but I am
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  Speaker 1: doing this. Doing what most boys would not do. Most
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  Speaker 1: guys would just keep it to themselves. But this guy
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  Speaker 1: is just like putting it on the table, being vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: with his mom, trying to get help. And what she
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  Speaker 1: did was just kick him out of the house.
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  Speaker 8: Jodi thought it would be a good idea for me
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  Speaker 8: as part of my repentance process to tell my mom.
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  Speaker 8: So I pretty much confessed to her that, you know,
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  Speaker 8: while Jodi was in the home, I was viewing podcasts.
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  Speaker 8: I was making out with girls at nighttime behind your
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  Speaker 8: back and I have never seen my mom more distraught
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  Speaker 8: and I have never seen her more red in the face.
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  Speaker 8: I was 17 at this time.
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  Speaker 2: Great parenting. 10 points to Ruby and Jodi.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings us to one horrifying day, specifically August 30th, 2023.
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  Speaker 1: Something would completely change Jodi, Ruby, and her children's lives
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  Speaker 1: in an instant. On August 30th, 2023, a 12-year-old boy
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  Speaker 1: was seen knocking on the door of his neighbor's.
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  Speaker 3: I just had a 12-year-old boy show up here at
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  Speaker 3: my front door asking for help. And he said he
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: just came from a neighbor's house. And we know there's
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: been problems at this neighbor's house.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: This boy was asking for some food and water shown
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: skinny and with duct tape around his ankles. And when
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: examined closer, injuries to his wrists and ankles were severe,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: leaving damaged tissue and muscle. And the boy ringing the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: doorbell asked for the police and he was obviously thin
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and starving. So the neighbor gave him a banana and
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: some water and waited for the police to come and arrive.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: And after a deep examination of the boy at the hospital,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they found cayenne pepper and honey had been used to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: dress his wounds. And this was due to them trying
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to stop an infection so they wouldn't have to bring
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: them to the hospital and lie about what had happened
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to him. And looking into more details, the boy describes
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: how he wasn't at his mother's house, but his mother's friend.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Jody Hildebrandt.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: And he then, after being placed into safety, describes how
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: there's another child at the house, which was his sister.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: And this part is honestly one of the saddest things
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen. When police find her, she's in a closet,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: just sitting on the floor alone. She doesn't speak. She's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: sitting on the floor, not moving, no reaction. And police
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: described she was so thin they couldn't even discern her
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: from a boy or a girl, especially with.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The buzz cut that she had.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So she refuses to move or leave the closet, possibly
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: out of fear due to Jodi's instructions telling her she
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: had to stay where she was. And obviously starving, police
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: would bring her a pizza and some soda. to help
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: ease her fears and getting something into her system. And reportedly,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: she just stared at the food and the drink for
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: several minutes. Not moving, not eating, not drinking, just totally
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: paralyzed in fear. And after four hours, four hours, she
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: would finally stand up and leave the closet. And afterwards,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: both Jodi and Ruby were arrested.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: F * * * you, bitches. And in the arrest,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: you can see Ruby annoyed in the handcuffs. The f
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: * * * ing audacity.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And later, when detectives question her, she's seen blinking like
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a psychopath and completely silent.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: It's honestly just sick.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: And when she finally responds to a question, it's to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: wait for her lawyer. I'll wait till I have a lawyer.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And Jodi, equally insane. Telling detectives if they knew all
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: the pieces of the story, they'd have a lot of empathy.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Like, just shut the up. Put some duct tape around
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: your mouth, shove you in a closet, and not give
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you food.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: How about that? No? Yeah, probably not. That's probably not
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: a good thing to do. Prison?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: If you knew all the pieces, I think you'd have
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: a lot of empathy. What's going on?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But according to police questioning and the evidence alongside, the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: young boy had slept outside and wrote jail in pebbles,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: meaning he was thinking about calling the police, not for help,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: but to absolve himself from the crimes his mother said
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: he committed. The brainwashing that happened in this household is astonishing.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: When I say she's a cult leader and Jodi, it is,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it is just as like, Jim Jones, they are right
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: up there with him. And knowing that the young 12-year-old
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: boy thought he was the one who was going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: be arrested and not his mother and her friend is
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: insanely telling.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: About just all the that happened.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And a day before all of this, she's seen on
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Jodi's channel with just crocodile tears, Ruby, that is, saying
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: she's staying firm in how she's mothering her children. And
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: this happened while they were obviously tied up in this
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: exact house, which is horrifying to think about.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: You wonder where I've been on my vlogs?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: You wonder why I left YouTube?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: To save my kids no amount of money.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I was making millions.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: And I left it because my kids were being hurt
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: with entitlement.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: They were being And she was then charged with six
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: counts of felony aggravated child. However, we wouldn't know if
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: she would suffer for her crimes until later that year.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Ruby was held without bail. And the media was all
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: over this. Any sort of influencer that is charged with
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: something is immediately national headlines, as we know. And to
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: no one's surprise, everyone celebrated the fact that she was
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: finally caught and arrested and were eagerly awaiting details of
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: what would happen to her, including myself. And before Jodi
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Hildebrandt could be charged, she immediately surrendered her license as
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: a counselor.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I f * * * ing hope so.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: And on December 18th, 2023, Ruby pleaded guilty to four
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: counts of the second-degree aggravated child s * * * charges.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: And in the proceeding, they talked about how she would
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: f * * * her children. One story involving her
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: young son working outside for several weeks without any protection,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: which caused him to be severely burned. And Jodi herself
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: was also charged with four counts on December 27th of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the same year.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Ms.
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: Frankie, how do you plead to count one aggravated child abuse,
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: a second degree felony?
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: Guilty.
• 22:55
  Speaker 10: To count three aggravated child abuse, a second degree felony?
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: Guilty.
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: To count five aggravated child a second-degree felony.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Guilty.
• 23:04
  Speaker 10: And to count six aggravated child abuse, a second-degree felony.
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: With my deepest regret and sorrow for my family and
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: my children.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And we wouldn't get any more news until February of 2024,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: when they would finally receive their sentencing. On February 20th, 2024,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the sentencing hearing would begin. And they read off the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: situation Ruby and Jodi had put the kids in, describing
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: it as a concentration camp where she starved and neglected them.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: From May to August in 2023, Ms.
• 23:31
  Speaker 10: Frankie and her business partner held her two children, ages 9.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And 11, turning 12. in a concentration camp-like setting.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And they were even emotionally so badly that they believed
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the punishments that they were receiving were earned and deserved.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Heartbreaking. So heartbreaking.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: However, the defense had taken an interesting side. They're trying
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to pin it all on Jodie and avoid as much
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: punishment against Ruby as possible, it seems. And yes, she's
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: accepting her punishment, but they frequently mentioned how most of
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: it falls on Jodie, as if it's not the mother's fault,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: as if they're not her children and, oh, you know,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: she's responsible for her children and the care she puts
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: them in, you know?
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Ruby realizes that she still has work to do in
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: shedding those thinking errors and to reestablish a better and
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: correct pattern of thinking and behavior. Ruby realizes that changing
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: her thinking, reestablishing relationships, and healing are not simple or
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: easy tasks. However, she is committed to doing that work.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: I would like the court to know that Ruby Franke
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: is a delightful, respectful, and responsible person. She is open
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: to feedback and addressing the consequences of her actions head on.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: And now ready to address your honor and accept your judgment.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: And Ruby then makes her own personal statement. Talking about
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: how she followed counseling guidance from her friend Jody. And that,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in turn, is the reason for her unchecked reality. As
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: if she wasn't doing all.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Of this before. Sorry, I just, I can't. I can't
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: take anything seriously that comes out of her disgusting, foul jokes.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: bitch mouth.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. I need to settle down. She's right
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: there with Casey Anthony for me. Just no remorse. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: don't care. I don't care.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: So she spends the majority of her time thanking the officers,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the medical staff, her lawyer, blah, blah, blah, blah. Only
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: at the end does she talk about her children, which
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: is why, in my opinion, she doesn't care what she
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: has done against her children, only that she got caught
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and was in trouble. And her crocodile tears honestly mean nothing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: Zip.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Nada.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Because you talk about all these other people that you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: put above your children, just like in your own life.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And as for Jodi, she has her own statement as well.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And weirdly enough, she seems more humane about it despite
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: her being a huge reason for the ab * *
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: * towards the children. Or at least furthering and encouraging
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Ruby to ab * * * them more. And I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: say this because she mentions the children a First.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: First.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: See?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Take notes, Ruby. Although Jodi's a piece of shit, too.
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Sincerely love these children.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But in the end, they both received the same sentence.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: One to 15 years terms in prison served consecutively for
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: each of the four counts of child abuse to which
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: they pleaded guilty. And this is one of the harshest
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: punishments ever given in recent child abuse cases. However, they're
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: more likely to serve around 30 years. Honestly, I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it should be the rest of their miserable lives. Personally,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: there should be no chance these just wastes of oxygen
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: should ever step foot outside of a jail and be
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: allowed to be near children of any kind. And Ruby's sister, Bonnie,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: made a YouTube video titled, I am not my sister,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I am not my sister's crimes. And in the video,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: she talks about how she knew her family was strange,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: but she never knew what was going on.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: And why is that?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Well, Ruby, like we talked about before, cut off her
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: family from knowing anything that was going on. She knew
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: she was weird, but didn't have a clue what was
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: going on behind closed doors. And she could be seen
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: crying after learning the horrors her sister had done. She
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: said they worked behind the scenes legally to try to
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: fix things. She couldn't just go there and bust in
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: because if she did that, she could go to jail
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: for breaking and entering.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: So how could she help?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: However, her most important point, which we'll get into, is
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that the only person who could have directly gotten involved
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and helped those kids was Kevin.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Remember Kevin, the father?
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Kevin, as mentioned before, was in the vlogs in Eight Passengers,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Ruby's husband.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And Kevin is a less talked about character.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: In all of this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: As he witnessed the ab- and eventually just left her
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in 2022, but never went back to help.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You know, his children, who you know, were being- by,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: you know, his f * * * ing wife.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Kevin Frank would state that he was unaware of the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: extreme ways she was parenting. However, he talked about how
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Jodi was able to avoid the law because she never
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: answered her door and more.
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: Not answer the door, not speak with authorities, DCFS or police,
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: just remain silent. And as long as everybody remains silent,
• 28:20
  Speaker 11: then within a specified amount of days, typically 30, the
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: case closes by itself.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: But what's weird is the interrogation he had with detectives
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and his reaction to learning the information. He's seen crying
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: about what's going to happen to his wife because he
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: loves his wife.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: You know, the wife that * * * * his children.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And he has no reaction to anything. He's just stone
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: cold and just, it just feels raw and a little evil.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Not going to lie. It's my opinion.
• 28:49
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Not saying he did anything. Well. I'm just saying he
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything. And I can say that, because he didn't.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: But just look at his reaction to the officer saying
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: he doesn't know how he'd feel if he wasn't able
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: to see his kids. Now you could say he's in shock,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: but I see.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Someone Because he says, I trust her.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I trust.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Her. Okay, so the dude is either spineless and guilty
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: or just ignorantly guilty. But there's no way he didn't know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you know? And he blames Jodi for everything. But if
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: all of that doesn't convince you, here's police body cam
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: footage of him asking why his daughter isn't going to
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: be arrested for the robbery of his personal items.
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: Explain to me again why this was not robbery.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: Because it's a civil issue. You guys are family, she's
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: been in the house before, you haven't been in the
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: house in a year. She had interest in the items.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: She didn't take them with the intention to deprive you
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: of them. So that's the theft code. We have to
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: prove intent to deprive you of the items. And that
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: wasn't her intent in having them. So the detective sergeant
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: said that we're not going to charge her for anything.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's totally, he's totally a loving father
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: who just really loves his kids and wants the best
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: for his kids and everything, you know?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Totally.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, did I mention this was two days after Ruby
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: was arrested?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so after his wife got arrested for his children,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: he tried to get his daughter arrested for taking stuff
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that was hers.
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Great guy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Definitely innocent in all of this. Definitely not guilty. You know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: can't say that. Anyway, Sherry Franke, the oldest sibling who
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was kicked out at 18 years old, has been pretty
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: vocal and she's very straight up. She says Jodi isn't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the reason for the abuse. She was like that before.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Not this spineless viewpoint that Kevin takes, but she's firm
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: with what happened.
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: Narratives in the media kind of pinpoint Jodi as the
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: reason that things went wrong and Ruby was good until
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: Jodi came. But I wanted to show that that wasn't
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: the case and that wasn't my experience.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It's hard to pinpoint her kids' perspective towards their father,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: but it seems like Chad, the son who was kicked
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: out at 17, seems to hang around his father, at
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: least in interviews.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: What does happiness look like for you guys?
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: Enjoying time with my siblings, it feels a lot more free.
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: It's wonderful to be surrounded by my children. There's laughter again.
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: We have a lot of new furry friends.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Our home is a zoo.
• 31:47
  Speaker 10: It is a zoo.
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: And it's funny because like they chew up all the
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: floorboards and everything. And I'm just thinking if Ruby was here,
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: she'd be furious.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: But Ruby's not. And I don't care.
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: And I'm happy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I do believe people can change, but there's got to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: be some accountability for him. You know, there's no chance
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: he had no clue what was going on. I mean,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: we know he knew what was going on because he
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: was there for the vlogs. But again, the media has
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: been talking about this frequently with the new Hulu show
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that came out earlier this year on February 27th, 2025.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And the show called Devil in the Family, The Fall
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: of Ruby Frankie, shows clips and videos, interviews, and more
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: about all perspectives that had happened during.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: The whole ordeal.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: And it opens up all that has happened and shows
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the absolutely disgusting horrors Ruby Frankie committed alongside Jodi Hildebrandt.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: And honestly, the whole thing is just unbelievably disturbing with
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: clips shown of how she was treating them and the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: arrest footage playing alongside. It's just all horrifying. Intentionally, this
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: awareness of family vlogging has opened up how people include
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: children in their media. And we've seen things similar to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: this in the news before with the Daddy 05 and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the horrors those children went through for entertainment. So the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: fact that this is still happening really shows that something
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: needs to change. And it also talks about what was
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: really going on with Jodi and Ruby and why they
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: were so secretive about their lives. Some people on TikTok
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: have been insinuating a possibly private and secret romantic relationship
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: between the two.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: I am not gay.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I'm going to give Ruby the time.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Of her life.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: And I mean, her own son, Chad, talks about his
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: own theories on how he thinks that his mom and
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Jodi could be gay.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Go to lesbian?
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I honestly do. That's my personal opinion.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And also, I just need to shout out Chad for
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: being hilarious because he's making fun of his mom for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: like a pen face that he does. He's just, he's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: got a great sense of humor and I appreciate that,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you know, for all the shit that he's been through.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: But anyway, according to Sherry, she states that they had
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: a weird vibe. She mentions the fact that no one
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: would move in with their therapist and the fact that
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Jodi was in her bed before she moved out. And Sherry,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the oldest, has her own book, which involves more details
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: about her life and the strangeness and the awfulness of
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Jodi and Ruby. So what about the family now? Well,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: it seems Chad is in real estate and is glowing.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: He seems much happier and can laugh off all the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: horrible trauma. Humor does really heal a lot of wounds
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in my personal experience as well, but I really hope
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: that he's doing well. And Sherry is happily married and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: states that she does not want to share anything about
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: her wedding, her husband, or her children on the internet
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and that they deserve privacy.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: But.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: privacy that she wasn't given, which is huge in her beliefs.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Let's just give a round of applause.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: For Sherry. What a good, actually good mom.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And it seems the rest of the children, Abby, Julie, Russell,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and Eve have all undergone psychological assessments and treatment to
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: recover from their and that they were taken into custody
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  Speaker 1: by the Division of Child and Family Services. Supposedly they're
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  Speaker 1: all in contact with their father, Kevin, who is trying
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  Speaker 1: to rebuild their trust. But currently they are in state
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  Speaker 1: protective custody, which is exactly what they need to be
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  Speaker 1: safe and away from their evil mother.
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  Speaker 2: And questionable father.
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  Speaker 1: But in the end, it all boils down to an
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  Speaker 1: evil mother who becomes overly controlling of her children, putting
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  Speaker 1: it all on display for the world to see. And
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  Speaker 1: I personally think, as you guys know if you've watched
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  Speaker 1: any of my content, I think it's just really bad
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  Speaker 1: for parents to film their family like they're in a
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  Speaker 1: frickin' docu-series or movie.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's good.
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  Speaker 1: It's not only creepy, but puts too much of their
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  Speaker 1: lives on display. And it's not something they can consent to.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes it even goes to their head. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's ever positive in any way to make
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  Speaker 1: your child the center of your content. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: sharing your kid here and there, you know, it's okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you should be able to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Just be aware of what is out there. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we haven't even touched on the fact that there is
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  Speaker 1: just creeps in every crevice of the internet and that
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  Speaker 1: they are preying on the children that are posted. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just good to know for parents out there.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to post your children, just know that
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  Speaker 1: there are negative effects of that, or can be.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have kids yet.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all won't see them if I have them, tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: Tell you that right now, you'll never see them.
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  Speaker 2: Because I can't.
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  Speaker 1: I just, I won't ever do this. I won't ever
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  Speaker 1: do this to my kid because they deserve privacy until
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  Speaker 1: they're of age and they can make their own decisions.
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  Speaker 1: And that is just my personal, personal thing. But very much,
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  Speaker 1: especially because I am already a public-facing person.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway... I'm out of breath. Hate takes me out. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed the video. Or not enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: Please let me know what other deep dives you want
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  Speaker 2: me to do below. These are always rough. Always the
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  Speaker 2: family stuff always gets me. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just because it's close to home. It's
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  Speaker 1: close to YouTube home. And I know people in this space.
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  Speaker 2: And it just... Kids, man. Kids are so innocent. They
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  Speaker 2: deserve better. And I'm glad all these kids are now
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  Speaker 2: on the up. And Ruby and Jodi... Maybe Kevin? You suck.