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Steve Price | 9 October · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live, this is Steve Price. Good evening and welcome to
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Speaker 1: Friday Nights. Breaking news, of course, this afternoon with the
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Speaker 1: ATO rattled over a small business revolt over using credit
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Speaker 1: cards to pay their tax and forced to back down.
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Speaker 1: We'll get some reaction later in the program. Also coming
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Speaker 1: up tonight, with just seven weeks until the Victorian state
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Speaker 1: election and another test for One Nation in a state
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Speaker 1: with a bail crisis and a crime crisis out of control,
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Speaker 1: Coalition Shadow Attorney-General James Newbury. He'll join us first up tonight. Also,
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Speaker 1: more climate madness this week as taxpayers, that's you and me,
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Speaker 1: stump up $ 20 million and more for a sparsely attended
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Speaker 1: pre-cop event in Fiji, with the Prime Minister Albanese looking
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Speaker 1: like he didn't want to be there, while Climate Change
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Speaker 1: Minister Chris bungling Bowen fell asleep. Friday regular Campbell Newman
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Speaker 1: will have a view on that later. And that dramatic
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Speaker 1: backflip I mentioned today from the ATO, with small businesses
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Speaker 1: able to still use credit cards to pay tax bills...
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Speaker 1: And wouldn't you know it, here's Jim Chalmers taking credit
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Speaker 1: for the turnaround.
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Speaker 2: But it's really important that we have stepped in today
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Speaker 2: to make it possible for the ATO to continue to
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Speaker 2: take credit card payments until the end of the financial year.
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Speaker 1: Seriously, you just shake your head. Plus tonight, what a
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Speaker 1: weekend it will be at Bathurst as supercars take to
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Speaker 1: Mount Panorama on the 20th anniversary of the sad and
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Speaker 1: tragic loss of nine times winner Peter Perfect, Peter Brock.
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Speaker 1: The two Pauls and Bathurst tragics. Our own Paul Murray
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Speaker 1: and Paul Gover with a preview. Let's get going tonight. Now, sadly,
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Speaker 1: I need to start not on a positive note like Bathurst.
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Speaker 1: about Victoria's out-of-control crime crisis and bail disasters. They get worse,
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Speaker 1: not better, under the new Premier, Ben Carroll, and even
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Speaker 1: if Labor is running a series of so-called tougher bail ads,
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Speaker 1: would have you think otherwise. Take a look.
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Speaker 3: Victoria has introduced tough new bail laws. These laws are
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Speaker 3: aimed at reducing the risk of reoffending by making it
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Speaker 3: harder to get bail if you're accused of a violent crime.
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Speaker 3: There are also new offences if you break your bail
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Speaker 3: conditions or commit a crime while on bail. To find
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Speaker 3: out more, search Victorian Bail Laws, authorised by the Victorian Government, Melbourne.
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Speaker 1: What a lot of invented garbage. Now, where do I
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Speaker 1: start with this? Let's start... with news this week that
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Speaker 1: police on the streets have actually been told from above,
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Speaker 1: from command, to apply, get this, the least restrictive option
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Speaker 1: that is appropriate in the circumstance, including simply cautioning children. Now,
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Speaker 1: that's a wordy way of saying, look, if they're kids,
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Speaker 1: give them a slap on the wrist. We do not
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Speaker 1: want kids charged and we certainly don't want them locked up.
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Speaker 1: I mean, this despite the fact that night after night,
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Speaker 1: day after day, we have so-called children, kids, what age
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Speaker 1: that means, who knows, firebombing tobacco shops, stealing cars, stalking
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Speaker 1: people in the streets with fatal outcomes and, of course,
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Speaker 1: involved in home invasions and high-speed police chases that sometimes
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Speaker 1: end in fatalities. Cautioning? I mean, give me a break.
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Speaker 1: And of course, this from a government that actually changed
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Speaker 1: the age of criminal intent from 12 years old up
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Speaker 1: to 14. Flooding court decisions with lawyers arguing little Johnny
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Speaker 1: can't possibly have known that bashing an innocent person in
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Speaker 1: broad daylight was the wrong thing to do. Well, could
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Speaker 1: I start here? A Melbourne man accused of operating as
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Speaker 1: a terror propagandist, working with a group of Australian ISIS supporters,
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Speaker 1: has been given bail two weeks after being arrested. Now,
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Speaker 1: I know you won't believe this, but Mohamed Mouss Bakit,
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Speaker 1: a 65-year-old, has been charged with five offences, including allegedly
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Speaker 1: being a member of a terrorist group. Let me repeat,
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Speaker 1: allegedly being a member of a terrorist group. Now, how
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Speaker 1: does a charge like that and the word bail even
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Speaker 1: exist in the same sentence? But it gets worse, though.
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Speaker 1: He was also charged with allegedly possessing violent material and
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Speaker 1: was arrested by counter-terrorism police in the suburb of Carlton.
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Speaker 1: This bloke back hit, we learn from prosecutors in court,
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Speaker 1: allegedly shared thousands of files, including images... of executions, suicide bombings,
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Speaker 1: and wait for it, sermons from extremist preachers. In court,
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Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Magistrate Gerard Lethbridge said there were exceptional circumstances,
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Speaker 1: including the accused parlous health, lack of prior offending and
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Speaker 1: the historical nature of the allegations. Paquette, by the way,
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Speaker 1: has been living in Australia since 1981 and is on
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Speaker 1: the NDIS scheme after having a stroke In 2023, he'll
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Speaker 1: be back in court next March, so he's wandering around
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Speaker 1: on bail for the next four months. Yet, things get worse.
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Speaker 1: You might recall the Good Samaritan death of sunshine shopkeeper
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Speaker 1: Van Viet Truong. Well, in the Children's Court this week,
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Speaker 1: a 12-year-old boy we cannot name had charges against him
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Speaker 1: in relation to Mr Truong's death dropped. He had been
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Speaker 1: charged with alleged affray, alleged intentionally causing serious injury and
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Speaker 1: alleged violent disorder. 12-year-old boy. He's the second of the
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Speaker 1: group that allegedly attacked the shopkeeper who gave chase after
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Speaker 1: they stole from another shop. A 13-year-old was cleared months ago,
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Speaker 1: while a 15-year-old has been charged with manslaughter and is
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Speaker 1: behind bars. Now, on top of those examples, we now
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Speaker 1: have a spate of car fire bombings in people's driveways
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Speaker 1: and that mayhem that shut down the Monash Freeway on
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Speaker 1: Tuesday when armed police arrested four teenagers and two men
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Speaker 1: wanted over an alleged aggravated burglary in Brighton, while last
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Speaker 1: week two girls flipped, allegedly, a stolen car on the
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Speaker 1: top of the Balti Bridge. And the incumbent Labor government
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Speaker 1: runs taxpayer-funded TV ads saying they are using the toughest
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Speaker 1: bail laws in Australia. I call bulldust on that. That's
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Speaker 1: simply a lie and must be in contravention of some
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Speaker 1: advertising regulation somewhere. Seven weeks to go and Victorians see
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Speaker 1: this stuff on a nightly basis. I've said it before,
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Speaker 1: Victoria is a lawless state with a child-youth crime crisis
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Speaker 1: like we have never seen before anywhere in Australia. That alone,
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Speaker 1: the crime crisis, calls for a change of government and
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Speaker 1: it can't come fast enough. Sticking on that for more
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Speaker 1: Victoria Law and Order, let's bring in Victoria's Shadow Attorney-General,
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Speaker 1: James Newbury. James, good to see you again. I'll get
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Speaker 1: on to that issue of bail and that ad in
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Speaker 1: a moment, but there was this morning a significant rally
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Speaker 1: at Spring Street. I've covered this before. This is CFA
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Speaker 1: volunteers rallying against the push by power companies... to acquire
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Speaker 1: their land for transmission towers. Have a listen to this young,
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Speaker 1: or this farming couple, who've copped an $ 814 fine and
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Speaker 1: are refusing to pay it.
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Speaker 4: We won't be paying the fine.
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Speaker 5: I don't believe I should be fined for protecting our property.
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Speaker 1: That's our land, our livelihood, and it's our home.
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Speaker 6: To have people threatening you at a farm gate, wanting access...
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Speaker 6: No respect for us at all as farmers, as people,
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Speaker 6: as parents, citizens of Victoria.
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Speaker 7: We're just treated like peasants.
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Speaker 1: I'd pay it for them, but they probably wouldn't let me.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the anger across the regions is really palpable,
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Speaker 1: isn't it?
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Speaker 8: Oh, you know what it actually feels like?
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Speaker 9: It feels like you could have a protest now every
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Speaker 9: day across every street.
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Speaker 8: Victoria, frankly, feels like it's in revolt.
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Speaker 9: You know, for whatever reason and for all of the
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Speaker 9: reasons you can imagine. You know, you've got people who
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Speaker 9: are protecting their homes, farmers who are trying to protect
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Speaker 9: their homes.
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Speaker 8: They're being taxed out the ear for it.
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Speaker 9: Crime is, to say it's out of control is far
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Speaker 9: too simplistic. What's happening in Victoria is something we have
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Speaker 9: never seen before and the Outcry from the community is
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Speaker 9: completely understandable, but Victorians, only 50.
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Speaker 8: Days and you can see change in this state.
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Speaker 1: How do you feel as a politician when you see
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Speaker 1: that protest today, but knowing it was coming, the incumbent Premier,
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Speaker 1: Ben Carroll, comes out yesterday and suddenly finds a pot
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Speaker 1: of money to buy new fire trucks? Why won't we
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Speaker 1: be buying new fire trucks for the last 12 years,
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Speaker 1: for God's sake?
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Speaker 9: Oh, and by the way, he hasn't committed to doing it.
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Speaker 9: He said, if you vote for me, I'll do it.
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Speaker 9: You know, he hasn't done it out of the goodness
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Speaker 9: of his heart because people need it. He said the
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Speaker 9: only reason we'll do it is if you vote for me.
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Speaker 9: If he thought it was needed, he would have cut
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Speaker 9: his tax, which is decimating regional Victoria. Not just regional Victoria,
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Speaker 9: but it's really hurting in regional Victoria.
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Speaker 8: But the services, you know, you're talking about firetrucks.
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Speaker 9: It's our roads, it's our fire trucks, it's our police stations,
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Speaker 9: it's our number of police, it's our hospitals, it's our nurses,
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Speaker 9: it's our doctor's pay. I can't tell you how many
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Speaker 9: problems we have because we don't have long enough. That's
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Speaker 9: why it feels like Victorians are ready to revolt because
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Speaker 9: it's time to fix it.
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Speaker 8: It's time for change. We've had enough.
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Speaker 9: We've never seen anything like this in Australian history, I
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Speaker 9: don't think.
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Speaker 8: And it's time to fix it.
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Speaker 1: I was, James, talking to three Victorian business people yesterday
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Speaker 1: who've all owned, operated and made very successful businesses in construction.
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Speaker 1: One of them owned a big plumbing business. Here's the
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Speaker 1: question for you that they asked me to ask. How
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Speaker 1: the hell is Jess Wilson and James Newbury going to
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Speaker 1: fix this mess? Because it seems like an impossible task.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you know what?
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Speaker 9: You take one step at a time. You put the
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Speaker 9: hundred problems in front of you or the thousand problems
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Speaker 9: in front of you and you fix it one step
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Speaker 9: at a time. So number one, we want to bring
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Speaker 9: confidence back to this state. And I'd say to everybody
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Speaker 9: who's a bit longer in the tooth, you remember.
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Speaker 8: When Jeff won?
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Speaker 9: Within two years, this state was buzzing because confidence was back.
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Speaker 9: Businesses were able to invest money with certainty. Because there
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Speaker 9: was confidence in this state. We're going to clean up
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Speaker 9: corruption immediately. We're going to get very, very tough on crime.
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Speaker 9: And I think that brings confidence back to this state.
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Speaker 9: So to the business community, I'd say to you, and
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Speaker 9: the business community are.
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Speaker 8: The people who employ Victorians.
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Speaker 9: We are going to bring confidence back to this state.
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Speaker 9: And we really want you to partner with us. to
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Speaker 9: make sure that we are the best state in Australia.
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Speaker 1: You and I flick on News 24 or we put
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Speaker 1: on local Melbourne radio and day after day, every morning
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Speaker 1: you wake up, someone's had their car bombed, someone's had
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Speaker 1: their home invaded. Yesterday we had a woman on a
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Speaker 1: tram stabbed in the neck by a bloke with I
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Speaker 1: think it was a pair of scissors or something. The
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Speaker 1: streets are out of control. You're the potential new AG, Attorney-General.
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Speaker 1: How are you going to, A, keep offenders who've offended
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Speaker 1: and have been charged from getting bail, for a start,
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Speaker 1: and then how do we turn around this notion that people,
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Speaker 1: young people in particular, have no respect for police, no
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Speaker 1: respect for the law, and think they can do whatever
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Speaker 1: they want and violence is not something they shouldn't be
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Speaker 1: involved in?
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Speaker 9: Well, the problem we've got at the moment is the
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Speaker 9: government is saying anyone under 18 can commit any crime
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Speaker 9: because we think they're too young to have any real consequences.
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Speaker 9: I mean, that's what the laws basically do now. So
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Speaker 9: we're going to import the Queensland adult crime, adult time
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Speaker 9: laws and get very tough.
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Speaker 8: So when it comes to violent crimes, we're not mucking around.
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Speaker 9: You commit a violent crime, we're going to get tough.
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Speaker 8: And on top of that, you're not getting bailed.
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Speaker 9: So if you commit a crime and then you behave badly,
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Speaker 9: you are not getting bail. No apologies. We're sick of
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Speaker 9: it in Victoria. We are sick of it. There's going
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Speaker 9: to be no easy bail. We're closing that revolving door.
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Speaker 9: And on violent crimes, enough.
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Speaker 8: Enough.
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Speaker 9: No more chances. We are cleaning up the streets. We're
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Speaker 9: making no apologies for being on the side of victims
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Speaker 9: and Victorians instead of criminals.
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Speaker 8: It's time to stop the crime.
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Speaker 1: Have you had a discussion about reversing this change that
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Speaker 1: saw the age of the ability to be able to
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Speaker 1: understand you'd committed a crime, Dolly Incapatus, back from 14,
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Speaker 1: back to 12 or younger? I mean, are you able
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Speaker 1: to do that?
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Speaker 9: This is a serious problem because even though the law
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Speaker 9: allows people over 12 effectively to be dealt with, where
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Speaker 9: they behave badly. The courts have a rule, as you
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Speaker 9: rightly said, which pretty much says you're a child. Now,
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Speaker 9: we've seen an example recently near my community where an
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Speaker 9: offender was Googling, what punishment do I get if I
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Speaker 9: commit this crime? And then the court said, Well, obviously
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Speaker 9: she didn't understand what the crime was.
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Speaker 8: She was Googling how much trouble she would be in.
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Speaker 9: My view is if you're old enough to Google and
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Speaker 9: understand what you're doing, you get the understanding of the
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Speaker 9: crime you're committing.
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Speaker 8: It is madness.
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Speaker 9: We have to take a step back and say, if
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Speaker 9: you commit a serious crime, you have a serious consequence
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Speaker 9: and no more I'm only 14.
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Speaker 8: I'm only 15. I'm only 16.
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Speaker 9: If you can pick up a machete and if you
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Speaker 9: can hold it to someone's neck, frankly, your crocodile tears
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Speaker 9: are not going to work with me. And they will
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Speaker 9: not work with the Liberals and Nationals. We are going
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Speaker 9: to say no to violent crimes and no more revolving
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Speaker 9: bail door.
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Speaker 1: It was a hard exercise, but I took myself back
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Speaker 1: to my 12-year-old self and I thought, did I know
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Speaker 1: at 12 that it was not right to chase someone
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Speaker 1: down the street and bash them and kick them in
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Speaker 1: the head? I think I did know that because my
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Speaker 1: parents would have told me that I can't even cross
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Speaker 1: the road against a red pedestrian crossing sign, let alone
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Speaker 1: that I should be allowed to go and belt people
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Speaker 1: or broke into someone's house or steal their car.
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Speaker 9: I mean, these offenders are joking about it. They're making
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Speaker 9: videos about it. You know, talk to the police. Police
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Speaker 9: are at their wit's end. You know, the police who
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Speaker 9: are dealing with these offenders every day are saying they're
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Speaker 9: joking about it when they're being arrested to police.
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Speaker 8: I mean, this is how little respect there is in
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Speaker 8: this state now.
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Speaker 9: Offenders tease police as they're being arrested that they're simply
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Speaker 9: going to get bailed.
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Speaker 8: No more.
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Speaker 9: It's time for change. It is time for consequences. You know,
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Speaker 9: you raised one really tragic case of the stabbing in
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Speaker 9: the tram. But you know it's every day. You know,
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Speaker 9: on the same day as the offenders broke into the
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Speaker 9: home and stole the car which shut down the Monash Freeway,
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Speaker 9: I've got a family in a street nearby who's been
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Speaker 9: home invaded three times in one week. It hasn't even
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Speaker 9: hit the media because these crimes are happening so often
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Speaker 9: that in our communities the media can't even keep up
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Speaker 9: this it is just happening every day and the only
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Speaker 9: way to fix it is to say no more we're
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Speaker 9: going to get tough and no more bail and that
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Speaker 9: means more people are going to be in jail and
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Speaker 9: if you commit.
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Speaker 8: A serious violent crime that's where you should be yeah.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you in a year's
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Speaker 1: time and find out whether those crime numbers are going
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Speaker 1: down Good on you, Brad. Thank you very much. I'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you shortly.
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Speaker 10: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I want to take you to Brisbane now, where business
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Speaker 1: and political leaders are meeting for CPAC. That's the Conservative
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Speaker 1: Political Action Conference. This year, it'll bring together conservative voices
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Speaker 1: from right around the country, including former Breakfast television host
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Speaker 1: Carl Stefanovic's there, apparently. Significantly, this is an opportunity for
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Speaker 1: all of the three right-of-centre parties, Liberal, National and One Nation,
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Speaker 1: to make their pitch to the influences in the room.
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Speaker 1: But the question remains over whether or not the Coalition
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Speaker 1: should just make a deal with One Nation in Victoria
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Speaker 1: and federally in a united fight against Labor. One of
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Speaker 1: the speakers at the weekend's event is a Friday night
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Speaker 1: regular on our program, Executive Director at the Samuel Griffith Society,
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Speaker 1: Mia Schlitsch. She joins me now. Mia, thanks for interrupting
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Speaker 1: the conference. What's the pitch from these parties this weekend?
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Speaker 1: How do they find a common point of difference? How
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Speaker 1: do they get themselves together?
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Speaker 11: Well, that's what we'll be waiting to see, Steve. It'll
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Speaker 11: be quite an interesting spectacle because we've never actually seen
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Speaker 11: all three leaders of the major parties present together at
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Speaker 11: one time. We'll be hearing from each of them one
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Speaker 11: after the other. And then, as you mentioned, Karl Stefanovic
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Speaker 11: will also be here this weekend and he will interview.
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Speaker 7: And press each of them.
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Speaker 11: We don't know whether he will interview all all three
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Speaker 11: of them at the same time, or if you'll do
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Speaker 11: so separately. But certainly, I think the question on everyone's
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Speaker 11: mind is, is there a deal to be done here?
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Speaker 11: Because without a doubt, if we want to see the
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Speaker 11: Labor government booted out at the next federal election, the
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Speaker 11: three parties are going to have to work together in
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Speaker 11: some capacity. And up until now, they've each avoided that question,
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Speaker 11: but they'll be in the room all together.
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Speaker 7: And that will certainly be the question that we'll all
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Speaker 7: be asking them.
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Speaker 1: Well, Pauline's made it obvious, Mia, that she's open to dialogue.
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Speaker 1: She has said over and over that she would be
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Speaker 1: open to dialogue with the Coalition federally. She's made it
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Speaker 1: very clear when she was in Melbourne yesterday and again
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Speaker 1: last weekend that she would be open to talk to
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Speaker 1: Jess Wilson. On the other hand, Jess Wilson, the potential
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Speaker 1: new Premier of Victoria, and Angus Taylor have said, well,
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Speaker 1: we're not open to doing deals with One Nation.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, they've both made that clear, and they've also sometimes
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Speaker 11: gone further to go out and criticise One Nation's policy,
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Speaker 11: which has caused some disruption amongst the base, who are saying,
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Speaker 11: hang on a second, shouldn't all of your focus be
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Speaker 11: on Labor? That is the common enemy here. Why wouldn't
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Speaker 11: you do a deal with One Nation? And that question
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Speaker 11: hasn't exactly been answered. But the reality is, is Labor
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Speaker 11: plans on winning certainly the election here in Victoria based
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Speaker 11: on preference flows. There is no way the Labor government
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Speaker 11: in Victoria will win on the primary vote.
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Speaker 7: But Labor has mastered the art.
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Speaker 11: Of ensuring that at the ballot, those preferences eventually flow
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Speaker 11: on to Labor. And so if we want to see
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Speaker 11: the Labor government booted out both in Victoria but also
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Speaker 11: at a federal level, well, the reality is that One
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Speaker 11: Nation and the coalition will have to start talking together,
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Speaker 11: and I think it should go further than just perhaps
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Speaker 11: talking about preference flows but also getting on the same
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Speaker 11: page about various policies.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're a Victorian and, you know, I see the
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Speaker 1: situation here being that I have always felt that perhaps
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Speaker 1: the Liberal Coalition will have a result where they're in
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Speaker 1: minority government and need to rely on One Nation. I
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Speaker 1: still feel that. Polls might change. The whole thing might
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Speaker 1: change between now and, you know, seven weeks' time. But
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Speaker 1: If Jess Wilson has to rely on One Nation to
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Speaker 1: get things through the upper house, surely she's going to
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Speaker 1: do that.
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Speaker 11: We'll have to wait and see, but I very much
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Speaker 11: think that that could be a likely scenario, particularly in Victoria.
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Speaker 11: And I think that's a good thing. I think having
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Speaker 11: more voices in Parliament is an important thing. I think
20:42
Speaker 11: the days of the major parties dominating these elections are done.
20:46
Speaker 11: They've lost the support of the base. That's particularly the
20:49
Speaker 11: case with the Liberal Party, because many of those base
20:51
Speaker 11: supporters have said, look, I don't know what you stand for,
20:54
Speaker 11: I don't know what your policies are, And whilst Jess Wilson,
20:56
Speaker 11: I think, has done a pretty good job at cleaning
20:59
Speaker 11: up a lot of that narrative with the state party,
21:01
Speaker 11: I think we're still waiting to see whether Angus Taylor
21:04
Speaker 11: can do the same thing with the federal party, and
21:06
Speaker 11: that is his opportunity at CPAC this weekend, is to
21:09
Speaker 11: speak to the base and say, this is the Liberal
21:11
Speaker 11: Party brand, these are our values, these are our policies,
21:15
Speaker 11: and this is where we'd be open to working with
21:18
Speaker 11: another party and where our differences are.
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Speaker 1: May, you're addressing the CPAC conference. What are you talking
21:24
Speaker 1: to them about? Yes, I am.
21:27
Speaker 11: I'm focusing on a slightly different aspect of the political sphere,
21:31
Speaker 11: and that is, of course, our courts, because whilst our
21:33
Speaker 11: politicians are one of the most powerful leaders in this country,
21:37
Speaker 11: we now have our judges who are on the rise
21:40
Speaker 11: and who are consistently making decisions that affect the culture
21:45
Speaker 11: and the way that ordinary Australians live their lives.
21:48
Speaker 7: Yet, of course, our judges... they're not elected.
21:51
Speaker 11: So when we Australians disagree with various judgments that have
21:54
Speaker 11: been handed down, there's not much that we can do
21:56
Speaker 11: about that. However, there is a fair bit that our.
21:59
Speaker 7: Politicians can do.
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Speaker 11: And that's why I'll be speaking to Pauline Hanson, Angus
22:04
Speaker 11: Taylor and Matt Canavan to make the case that if
22:07
Speaker 11: we want to stop judicial activism, if we want to
22:09
Speaker 11: stop judges from acting outside the bounds of their power,
22:13
Speaker 11: then it's really their job to start tightening up legislation
22:16
Speaker 11: to stop those activities from occurring.
22:19
Speaker 1: Well, the High Court's certainly thrown a cat amongst the
22:22
Speaker 1: pigeons this week with that ruling about Scope 3, this
22:25
Speaker 1: idea that if we export coal to Japan that we've
22:29
Speaker 1: then got to somehow be responsible for their emissions. I mean,
22:34
Speaker 1: that certainly has to be knocked on the head by
22:36
Speaker 1: New South Wales and you would think the federal government
22:39
Speaker 1: would need to intervene as well.
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Speaker 11: It's a shocking decision, Stephen. I really think this knocked
22:45
Speaker 11: some sense into Australians to wake up to realise just
22:48
Speaker 11: what our High Court is doing. It's a decision that's
22:50
Speaker 11: really out of step with what is in the best
22:53
Speaker 11: interest with Australia. This was a coal mine that was
22:55
Speaker 11: going to bring significant jobs and investment to the country,
22:59
Speaker 11: yet our High Court decided that it was more important
23:03
Speaker 11: to focus on what happens to that coal mine when
23:05
Speaker 11: it's burnt overseas.
23:07
Speaker 7: But the reality is.
23:08
Speaker 11: Is the way that they came up with that decision
23:10
Speaker 11: was a really small part in New South Wales planning law.
23:14
Speaker 11: So you'll see a lot of politicians ranting and raving
23:16
Speaker 11: about how much they disagree with this decision. But if
23:19
Speaker 11: they seriously disagree with it, you can just amend the
23:21
Speaker 11: legislation to stop to stop this decision, yet I'm not
23:26
Speaker 11: sure that some of our political parties have the will
23:28
Speaker 11: to do that. I know that the federal Liberal Party
23:31
Speaker 11: has put out a statement saying that they would amend
23:33
Speaker 11: the law, but we'll wait and see.
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Speaker 1: Mia, good luck with the CPAC conference. Thanks for joining us.
23:39
Speaker 1: We'll see you back in Melbourne when you get back. OK,
23:42
Speaker 1: after the break, a special panel with two Pauls. I
23:44
Speaker 1: am really looking forward to this. Paul Murray and Paul
23:47
Speaker 1: Gover taking a look at Australia and one of my
23:51
Speaker 1: favourite sporting events, Bathurst around Mount Panorama. Forget your F1s.
23:56
Speaker 1: This event is the quintessential Australian weekend. That's up next.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, like many Australians, I grew up in
24:08
Speaker 1: a Holden family. My late dad was selling Holdens during
24:12
Speaker 1: his 50 plus years working in the motor trade. We
24:15
Speaker 1: had a new Holden in the driveway for my entire childhood.
24:18
Speaker 1: Bathurst weekend. We used to get up at six in
24:20
Speaker 1: the morning to watch it. It was Christmas. The weekend
24:23
Speaker 1: this weekend will include a special celebration. It is sadly
24:27
Speaker 1: 20 years since we lost the late great Peter Brock,
24:30
Speaker 1: best known as Peter Perfect. More than 200,000 fans expected
24:34
Speaker 1: to make the pilgrimage to Mount Panorama. Now, Brock was
24:37
Speaker 1: a nine-time Bathurst winner 20 years ago this weekend. I
24:40
Speaker 1: was actually in Bathurst when, emotionally, Craig Lowndes won weeks,
24:45
Speaker 1: just weeks after Peter's death. Here to take us through
24:49
Speaker 1: the racing and the rivalries and what makes Bathurst so special.
24:53
Speaker 1: News 24 host and 360 Supercars host, Paul Murray. Host
24:58
Speaker 1: of Paul Murray Live and long-time friend of Peter Brocks
25:02
Speaker 1: and Friday night regular motoring journalist, Paul Gover. I'm very
25:05
Speaker 1: jealous of you, P. Murray. I'll call you P. Murray
25:08
Speaker 1: all night. Like many Australians, as I said, I grew
25:11
Speaker 1: up in a Holden family. How do you describe... To
25:15
Speaker 1: people who've never been to Bathurst, what's Bathurst like?
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Speaker 5: Have you ever been to church, Pricey? Have you ever
25:21
Speaker 5: been to church on Christmas Day? Yeah, this is something
25:25
Speaker 5: that I feel is more visceral than a grand final
25:30
Speaker 5: because this sport is one that does have such lineage
25:34
Speaker 5: across so many decades, so many fathers and sons. For me,
25:37
Speaker 5: fathers and daughters. But also it's about different eras of Australia.
25:42
Speaker 5: I mean, when this race sort of first... moved from
25:45
Speaker 5: the 500 to the 1,000. These were cars that you
25:47
Speaker 5: were able to buy. Now that's no longer the case.
25:51
Speaker 5: But the people who come here, if they camp, they
25:54
Speaker 5: bought their tickets and it was sold out within a day.
25:57
Speaker 5: If you come here for the camping, you're here all
26:01
Speaker 5: week and it becomes one of the main weeks that
26:03
Speaker 5: you get off each year. If you're able to come here,
26:06
Speaker 5: you come here for as many days as possible. Or
26:09
Speaker 5: if you just get together on the Sunday after the
26:12
Speaker 5: Rugby League grand final, it's what you did last year,
26:14
Speaker 5: the year before and 10 years before that. So there's
26:16
Speaker 5: something old school and new school about this place.
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Speaker 10: And for me, it is heaven.
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Speaker 1: I just wish we could go back to the earlier start, but,
26:26
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we're not going to do that because
26:27
Speaker 1: of TV coverage. P Gover, have you been around Bathurst
26:31
Speaker 1: in a race car ever? either driving or as a
26:34
Speaker 1: passenger in race car set up because TV, as Paul
26:39
Speaker 1: Murray will tell us and you can tell us, doesn't
26:42
Speaker 1: do justice to the elevations of that joint.
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Speaker 4: No, I've done a couple of hundred racing laps. I've
26:50
Speaker 4: even qualified for the main race in a V8 supercar.
26:53
Speaker 4: And I took a couple of passenger rides in a
26:57
Speaker 4: supercar with P.
26:58
Speaker 10: Brock as well.
26:59
Speaker 4: So I've got a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Of history there.
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Speaker 4: The thing about it is you don't realise how steep
27:04
Speaker 4: it is. The other thing you don't get from a
27:06
Speaker 4: TV at all is how narrow it is. Because on
27:08
Speaker 4: the TV, you're looking past the cars out to the view.
27:12
Speaker 4: But when you're driving, the concrete walls are very, very close...
27:17
Speaker 4: And we've seen in the last couple of days with
27:19
Speaker 4: practice and qualifying, quite a number of cars have been
27:21
Speaker 4: in the walls. So it's a huge challenge in every
27:25
Speaker 4: possible way.
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Speaker 1: P Murray, we won't tell the boss. Did you do
27:30
Speaker 1: the legendary spectator thing a few weeks ago and bury
27:33
Speaker 1: a couple of slabs of VB?
27:36
Speaker 5: Well, I don't drink personally, but that doesn't mean I
27:38
Speaker 5: didn't bury for somebody else.
27:42
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good thing to do. Everybody does that.
27:45
Speaker 10: Yeah, you've got to look.
27:46
Speaker 5: If you can't take care of a friend, then what's
27:48
Speaker 5: the point of being Australian? But as you say, Paul,
27:51
Speaker 5: the elevation, I mean, again, if you haven't physically been here, yes,
27:54
Speaker 5: obviously it's a mountain, but it's a bloody long way up. And,
27:57
Speaker 5: of course, the old famous line of Peter Brock is that,
27:59
Speaker 5: you know, great race courses have consequences. Well, there's no
28:02
Speaker 5: tighter and greater consequences than concrete walls all over the shop.
28:07
Speaker 5: As the decades have rolled on, they've added to them.
28:09
Speaker 5: Of course, there was a time when literally Dick Johnson
28:12
Speaker 5: at one point in time literally, of course, went off
28:15
Speaker 5: the track and into the trees. So, thankfully, it is
28:18
Speaker 5: safer now. But even as we saw with Chas Mostard,
28:21
Speaker 5: I think, in 2014, but even we saw with Woody today, right?
28:26
Speaker 10: Like, you hit a wall here.
28:27
Speaker 5: You're hitting a wall most likely when your car's got
28:30
Speaker 5: a two in front of it in terms of the
28:32
Speaker 5: speed that it's going because you're doing a couple of
28:34
Speaker 5: hundred on the way up, you're.
28:35
Speaker 10: Doing 300 on the way down.
28:37
Speaker 5: And, of course, it's called Skyline because, as you know, Pricey,
28:42
Speaker 5: you get to the top and you're doing deep into
28:44
Speaker 5: the 200s and you can't see anything and then the
28:46
Speaker 5: road just falls straight down.
28:48
Speaker 10: But imagine what that's like.
28:50
Speaker 5: To do it 161 times, let alone tomorrow, of course,
28:53
Speaker 5: in qualifying, where it's just you and the track and
28:57
Speaker 5: it's Elfa leather.
28:57
Speaker 10: It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I can't get that image of that monster crash out
29:02
Speaker 1: of my head. It was horrendous. Pete Gover, how good
29:05
Speaker 1: was Brockie around Mount Panorama? He was sublime.
29:10
Speaker 4: The thing about Brockie was he was from a couple of...
29:14
Speaker 4: He spanned a couple of eras, but the cars that
29:16
Speaker 4: he was driving back in the day, they broke down.
29:19
Speaker 4: Lots and lots of them broke down. So they weren't
29:21
Speaker 4: as fast as the current cars, but they were much
29:23
Speaker 4: harder to drive. His ability, his great ability, was that
29:27
Speaker 4: he could stroke a car around and not take too
29:29
Speaker 4: much out of it. Although, famously, one year he set
29:32
Speaker 4: the lap record on the very last lap just to
29:34
Speaker 4: prove that he could. But the thing about him was
29:37
Speaker 4: he was simpatico.
29:38
Speaker 10: He was, he was.
29:40
Speaker 4: tune with the motor car and that's why he was
29:43
Speaker 4: so great. And I rode with him a lot of
29:45
Speaker 4: times at different tracks and on the road and stuff.
29:48
Speaker 4: And he'd be driving along with his elbow out, going
29:50
Speaker 4: at a speed that I would think was just stupid.
29:53
Speaker 4: And when I drove around Bassets with him, in the
29:57
Speaker 4: passenger seat, he was just plain amazing, you know? And
30:00
Speaker 4: that's why he was so good, because he was so
30:03
Speaker 4: in tune with the cars and he was able to
30:04
Speaker 4: get the best out of them at a track that's
30:07
Speaker 4: recognised as being probably one of the three hardest in
30:10
Speaker 4: the world.
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Speaker 1: P Murray, it would be such a story if it
30:17
Speaker 1: could happen, but sadly I don't think in terms of
30:19
Speaker 1: the car Craig Lowndes is in this weekend that he
30:22
Speaker 1: could repeat what he did 20 years ago. I mean,
30:25
Speaker 1: that day was so emotional. Everyone in the crowd was crying.
30:29
Speaker 1: Lowndes was crying. You could not have written that as
30:32
Speaker 1: a script. You couldn't make a movie out of it.
30:34
Speaker 5: No, well, remember, too, that was when Scafie was a
30:37
Speaker 5: virtual Red Hot favourite. He was in the Holden Racing team,
30:41
Speaker 5: the one with the obvious lineage back through so much
30:43
Speaker 5: of Brock's career. They were on pole and they didn't
30:47
Speaker 5: make it really much past the first corner.
30:50
Speaker 10: They were done within a kilometre.
30:51
Speaker 5: So then the weight of expectation did move to Craig.
30:56
Speaker 10: But remember, you know, last year, Matt Payne won the
30:58
Speaker 10: race from 18th.
30:59
Speaker 5: There's actually a surprisingly small... amount of cars that have
31:05
Speaker 5: won from pole position in the past 20 years. Now, yes,
31:09
Speaker 5: the race has changed very much over the years where
31:12
Speaker 5: the mechanical failure is still possible because, hey, stuff breaks.
31:17
Speaker 5: But it's generally pretty robust, all of the cars that
31:22
Speaker 5: are in it.
31:22
Speaker 10: There's a couple of wild cards that are in.
31:24
Speaker 5: So there's no reason that Lowndes doesn't have, with the
31:28
Speaker 5: backing of Team 18, the same technical ability as anyone
31:31
Speaker 5: else who's in the field, and let alone the heart
31:34
Speaker 5: and the story.
31:35
Speaker 10: So who knows? You legitimately don't know.
31:37
Speaker 5: And as Paul would know, and you know, Pricey, trying
31:39
Speaker 5: to work out when people say, who's going to win Bathurst?
31:41
Speaker 5: I'm fair dinkum. This is not TV pump. I can
31:44
Speaker 5: tell you there's half a dozen. And those blokes didn't
31:47
Speaker 5: do particularly well today. to get to the top 10 shootout.
31:50
Speaker 5: So there's going to be a whole bunch of blokes
31:52
Speaker 5: pushing from the middle of the field and a whole
31:54
Speaker 5: bunch of young, hungry blokes at the front of the field.
31:56
Speaker 10: So bring it on.
31:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, 20-year-old kid, 22-year-old kid from Canberra has set the
32:03
Speaker 1: fastest lap today. Pete Gover, can you guarantee me something? Yes, sir.
32:07
Speaker 1: And I want you to write this down, sign it
32:09
Speaker 1: and put it on a bit of paper. Can you
32:11
Speaker 1: guarantee me there will never be an EV race around
32:15
Speaker 1: Mount Panorama? We'll have protests in the streets if anyone
32:20
Speaker 1: ever tries to make that happen.
32:23
Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely correct. This is so tribal. It's
32:27
Speaker 4: got so much history. The thing about it is, if
32:29
Speaker 4: it does happen... There's one piece of good news, Pricey.
32:32
Speaker 4: If it does happen, you and I will be long dead.
32:36
Speaker 1: Hopefully. Hey, P Murray, the other thing we don't talk
32:39
Speaker 1: about enough, how good is it to drive from Western
32:42
Speaker 1: Sydney to Bathurst in a V8?
32:45
Speaker 10: Oh, tremendous, tremendous.
32:47
Speaker 5: Although I will say driving from Sydney to Bathurst at
32:52
Speaker 5: the moment, even if you were in a V8, you're
32:54
Speaker 5: not going to get much speed up because there's an
32:57
Speaker 5: old colonial bridge.
32:58
Speaker 10: Which has gone.
33:00
Speaker 5: reports, which means people are not able to go up
33:02
Speaker 5: and over the mountains the way they normally would, so
33:04
Speaker 5: they've got to go up the Bell's Line of Road.
33:06
Speaker 5: So anyone who is coming for the weekend, please add
33:09
Speaker 5: an extra hour to your expectation of times. But to
33:13
Speaker 5: answer the question directly, yeah, it's amazing. And I thought
33:16
Speaker 5: about renting. I was trying to look around for... And
33:19
Speaker 5: despite the fact that, you know, Pete Gover knows Ryan's story,
33:22
Speaker 5: I wasn't smart enough to get Ryan to lend me
33:24
Speaker 5: one of those beautiful Mustangs to get around in. But
33:27
Speaker 5: imagine not just a V8, but I'm a Holden man,
33:30
Speaker 5: but a V8 Mustang with the top down on your
33:33
Speaker 5: way to Bathurst.
33:35
Speaker 1: Like you did when you were in America covering Donald Trump.
33:38
Speaker 8: Oh, yeah.
33:38
Speaker 1: We all remember that image very well. Bloody hell. P Murray,
33:42
Speaker 1: I'm very jealous. You enjoy yourself at Bath as P
33:44
Speaker 1: go over. It's always a pleasure. And it'll be really
33:48
Speaker 1: good on Sunday, I think, to pay tribute to Peter Brock.
33:51
Speaker 1: Appreciate you giving me your time, boys. Thanks a lot.
33:54
Speaker 1: What to be there on the weekend. Thank you. How
33:56
Speaker 1: good would that be? OK, Labor's reinforced into our backflip
33:59
Speaker 1: today over the use of those credit cards with the ATO.
34:02
Speaker 1: I'll discuss that and more of today's stories with former
34:05
Speaker 1: Queensland Premier Campbell Newman, up next. Welcome back. Steve Price
34:12
Speaker 1: with you, coming up with our Friday night panel shortly.
34:15
Speaker 1: But I want to get a wrap of some of
34:16
Speaker 1: the political issues around the place today. Let's bring in
34:19
Speaker 1: Friday night regular former Queensland Premier... Campbell Newman. Campbell, great
34:22
Speaker 1: to see you again. It was only a matter of time,
34:25
Speaker 1: wasn't it? You and I talked about this last week,
34:27
Speaker 1: that the ATO had to backflip on this idea that
34:31
Speaker 1: small businesses couldn't use credit cards to pay their tax bills.
34:38
Speaker 1: Pretty embarrassing backflip for the Treasurer, though. He tried to
34:41
Speaker 1: pretend today that, oh, well, I got it fixed for you.
34:44
Speaker 1: But really, this was something that ought to be picked
34:48
Speaker 1: up before we got to this point, surely.
34:52
Speaker 12: Steve, any sort of feeling that there was some sort
34:55
Speaker 12: of judgment there sort of hosed out.
34:57
Speaker 1: Of the room? Surely.
34:59
Speaker 7: I mean, this was a no-brainer.
35:03
Speaker 12: And the moment that this reared its head some time ago,
35:07
Speaker 12: they should have been onto it. They should have been
35:10
Speaker 12: dealing with it. They should have been calling in... Commissioner
35:14
Speaker 12: and saying, you know, we've got to actually accommodate small
35:17
Speaker 12: business because, you know, the use of the credit card
35:20
Speaker 12: is an important cash flow management tool for so many companies.
35:24
Speaker 12: I mean, this isn't paying the tax bill, but, for example,
35:28
Speaker 12: my company has to pay $ 24, 000 a year for a
35:30
Speaker 12: very important piece of software and So we get a
35:34
Speaker 12: bill twice a year. And, you know, I'm not embarrassed
35:37
Speaker 12: to say we use a credit card. It makes sense.
35:40
Speaker 12: It smooths out the cash flows. And the ATO should
35:42
Speaker 12: be allowing small and medium-sized businesses to do the same.
35:47
Speaker 1: What it shows, of course, is, though, that the ministers
35:51
Speaker 1: in charge of the budget and money have never run
35:56
Speaker 1: any business, so they don't understand it. They have not
35:58
Speaker 1: a clue. They're not using their credit card to pay a,
36:01
Speaker 1: you know, a BAS payment. Absolutely.
36:04
Speaker 12: Well, this is the problem, Steve. We have a political class,
36:07
Speaker 12: and it's not just in the Labor ranks these days.
36:10
Speaker 12: So many people in Canberra and in our state parliaments
36:14
Speaker 12: just believe that money just, you know, just comes up with,
36:17
Speaker 12: you know, the rations, as we used to say in
36:19
Speaker 12: the Army. It's like they've never had to cut payroll.
36:22
Speaker 12: They've never had to worry about, you know, making, you know,
36:27
Speaker 12: the ends meet and maintaining a profitable business. Happy to
36:30
Speaker 12: dispense all the platitudes or, you know, or... rattle the
36:35
Speaker 12: sabre and say, you know, small business or business needs
36:37
Speaker 12: to do better. But this is where the rubber hits
36:40
Speaker 12: the road. And, you know, this government is really, really
36:45
Speaker 12: hurting small business. And I think across the country, people
36:49
Speaker 12: have woken up to they are very unfriendly to what
36:53
Speaker 12: the engine room of the economy actually does. So, like,
36:57
Speaker 12: you know, at least... But this is a backflip, but
37:00
Speaker 12: it's going to be... It's not a total backflip. I mean,
37:04
Speaker 12: it's only a stay of execution, actually. We should say that.
37:07
Speaker 12: It's only till sometime next year.
37:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, end of the financial year, I think. But, I mean,
37:14
Speaker 1: Angus Taylor has said today they should just completely scrap it,
37:17
Speaker 1: and so they should. Put your political hat on. I mean,
37:20
Speaker 1: it's been a really bad couple of weeks for... Anthony
37:24
Speaker 1: Albanese and Jim Chalmers and Chris Bowen and this nonsense
37:28
Speaker 1: that went on in Fiji. There must be rumblings in
37:32
Speaker 1: the backbench that even though they've got this massive majority,
37:36
Speaker 1: that the government doesn't look like it is in charge
37:40
Speaker 1: of the country at the moment. Everyone I speak to,
37:43
Speaker 1: and I mean, it's not, I talk to, you know,
37:46
Speaker 1: young kids making coffee in a coffee shop, everybody. And
37:49
Speaker 1: they all say, what's happened to this country? What's going
37:51
Speaker 1: on here? We feel like we're all going backwards.
37:56
Speaker 12: Well, we are going backwards. And, you know, look, I
37:59
Speaker 12: was at a business lunch a few hours ago with
38:03
Speaker 12: sort of the top of the town in terms of
38:07
Speaker 12: Brisbane business circles. And, you know, there's great concern about
38:11
Speaker 12: where Australia is going economically. And they had as a
38:16
Speaker 12: guest speaker there today, Geoff Wilson of Wilson Asset Management,
38:21
Speaker 12: who's been pointing out so many of the terrible implications
38:25
Speaker 12: of the to tax and, indeed, they're not just changes.
38:30
Speaker 12: The so-called reforms represent one of the biggest tax increases
38:34
Speaker 12: of a federal government and business and incentive-sapping measures that
38:40
Speaker 12: I've ever seen. But just remember, Steve, about two weeks
38:44
Speaker 12: after the budget on your show, you and I spoke
38:47
Speaker 12: about this. And you will recall we talked about at
38:51
Speaker 12: that time that this was the end of Jim Chalmers'
38:54
Speaker 12: political career. He is roadkill now. He's, you know, Bran Chalmers,
38:59
Speaker 12: as some sort of credible economic manager, is totally destroyed.
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Speaker 12: He has been found out in big chunks. And, you know,
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Speaker 12: we're hearing with some of our colleagues on News 24 about,
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Speaker 12: you know, the rumblings, the enmity between the PM and
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Speaker 12: the Treasurer, and that the PM is openly trash-talking the
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Speaker 12: Treasurer now.
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Speaker 1: I totally.
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Speaker 12: You know, I wasn't there in the room, but I
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Speaker 12: can tell you now it's totally plausible that's going on
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Speaker 12: because this budget has been disastrous for the Labor Party.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we must pull that clip out and make sure
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Speaker 1: we save it. I mean, you're in Queensland, but what
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Speaker 1: about this New South Wales coal mine and this High
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Speaker 1: Court decision that says... in simple terms, that if you
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Speaker 1: export your coal to Japan, then you're going to get
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Speaker 1: hit with the Japanese emissions in this sort of stage
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Speaker 1: three that they're talking about. That's surely got to be
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Speaker 1: overruled both by the state government in New South Wales
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Speaker 1: and the federal government. Imagine the Queensland mining companies being
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Speaker 1: forced to be punished for what happens to the end
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Speaker 1: product that they're putting on the ship to send out
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Speaker 1: of the country.
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Speaker 12: Well, the scope three emissions thing is a complete load
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Speaker 12: of hoo-ha, another very big administrative and compliance burden that's
40:21
Speaker 12: coming to a whole range of companies across Australia and
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Speaker 12: having to report on emissions that they haven't actually caused directly.
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Speaker 12: My understanding of this is it's particularly, you know, affecting
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Speaker 12: New South Wales because of the New South Wales legislative framework,
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Speaker 12: the way the laws, the planning laws have been sort
40:42
Speaker 12: of set up. Hopefully that's not the same here in Queensland.
40:45
Speaker 12: I saw Christopher Fawley, our Premier, saying that it wasn't,
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Speaker 12: but only time will tell. But what gets me about
40:52
Speaker 12: the political class again, Steve, is that they need to
40:56
Speaker 12: step up and deal with these matters and Not be
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Speaker 12: sort of cheerfully blasé or saying, there, there, it's OK,
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Speaker 12: because it's not OK. This is a vital export industry
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Speaker 12: for Australia. It needs protected. The jobs and the economic
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Speaker 12: wellbeing of mums and dads and workers right across, you know,
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Speaker 12: New South Wales and Queensland is tied to this. Let's
41:19
Speaker 12: get it sorted out. Let's make sure this can't happen again,
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Speaker 12: that we can go forward and expand this export industry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you collapse the mining industry in this country
41:31
Speaker 1: and you can say goodbye to NDIS, you can say
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Speaker 1: goodbye to, you know, building of new hospitals, education. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the whole country still runs off the exports of the
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Speaker 1: mining industry.
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Speaker 12: Steve, we are about iron ore, we're about coal, we're
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Speaker 12: about gas, and we're about agricultural exports. And if we
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Speaker 12: didn't have that, you know, those simpletons who are out
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Speaker 12: there protesting at times about climate change or whatever, they
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Speaker 12: wouldn't be getting their, you know, sort of their pension
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Speaker 12: funded or their public service job or their NGOs, you know,
42:09
Speaker 12: pay packet.
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Speaker 10: Exactly.
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Speaker 12: Like, it's time for people to wake up. This is
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Speaker 12: really serious stuff.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's the slogan for the coalition in the next election,
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Speaker 1: wake up, people. Campbell Newman, thank you very much. I'll
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Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Campbell Newman joins us on
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Speaker 1: a regular basis. OK, after the break, we'll dive into
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Speaker 1: more news from around Australia this week and the world
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Speaker 1: with the Friday Night Panel.