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- 0:07Speaker 1: In the last hours, not one, not two, but three
- 0:12Speaker 1: locations rated locations connected to the rap mogul Sean Diddy Combs.
- 0:23Speaker 1: I mean to see, Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
- 0:25Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Crime Stories and
- 0:28Speaker 1: on series XM one eleven. Why Diddy? Why Sean Puffy
- 0:34Speaker 1: Combs as he was once known. Well, according to what
- 0:39Speaker 1: we are learning, the raids by the Feds, by HSI
- 0:44Speaker 1: Homeland Security investigators, much of the PC probable cause was
- 0:51Speaker 1: gleaned from multiple lawsuits filed against Combs.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Now that's not just from what we're learning.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Combs' own lawyer spoke out in a very unfortunate statement.
- 1:05Speaker 1: For Combs, you never reveal your thinking prior to a trial,
- 1:12Speaker 1: but the lawyer did. What are they saying that all
- 1:15Speaker 1: these victims are lying? I mean, think about it. No
- 1:19Speaker 1: one wants to see the demise of a superstar, but
- 1:22Speaker 1: our superstars to be.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Held above the law.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Because I say no again, I'm Nancy Grace. Thank you
- 1:30Speaker 1: for being with us here on Serious six SIM and
- 1:34Speaker 1: at Crime Stories. First of all, this is what we
- 1:36Speaker 1: know happened. Listen to Sidney Sumner Crime Online.
- 1:39Speaker 3: On Monday, large teams of law enforcement led by Homeland
- 1:43Speaker 3: Security investigators rated three homes belonging to Sean Diddy Combs
- 1:47Speaker 3: in Los Angeles and Miami as part of a sex
- 1:50Speaker 3: trafficking investigation stemming from accusations leveled against Combs in five
- 1:54Speaker 3: separate lawsuits brought against him. The latest suit, filed in
- 1:57Speaker 3: February by music producer Rodney Rod Jones, details frequent drug use,
- 2:02Speaker 3: of shooting, and several accounts of sex assault while working
- 2:05Speaker 3: with Combs on the Love album.
- 2:07Speaker 1: That's what we know right now, but there's more, and
- 2:12Speaker 1: I can tell you this much. When the fans roll
- 2:15Speaker 1: up in armored vehicles wearing kevlar, that's not good for you.
- 2:22Speaker 2: That's not good at all.
- 2:23Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot of whining this morning by the
- 2:26Speaker 1: defense about, oh, they messed up the inside of his house.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Boo hoo. Listen to Dave Matt Crime Online.
- 2:33Speaker 4: In the seventy three page document, Jones claims that Combs
- 2:36Speaker 4: forced him to solicit sex workers and perform sex acts
- 2:39Speaker 4: with them as Combs looked on. Jones also alleges the
- 2:42Speaker 4: rapper through parties he called freak Coughs, during which underage
- 2:46Speaker 4: girls and sex workers were given lace, drinks and assaulted.
- 2:49Speaker 4: Comb's son Justin, producer Stevie Jay, and associate Brendan Paul
- 2:53Speaker 4: allegedly supplied the women in drugs for the parties. The
- 2:56Speaker 4: suit goes on to say that Comb's access to major celebrities, athletes,
- 3:00Speaker 4: and even British royals such as Prince Harry gave him
- 3:03Speaker 4: and his followers legitimacy.
- 3:05Speaker 1: With me an all star panel to make sense of
- 3:08Speaker 1: what we know right now, but for a straight out.
- 3:10Speaker 1: To Kila Brantley joining US investigative reporter dailymail dot com, Kela,
- 3:15Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Tell me what happened
- 3:17Speaker 1: because we saw simultaneous raids. A lot has been made
- 3:21Speaker 1: of that. Hold on just a second, Kila. Let me
- 3:23Speaker 1: go to Nima Romani, joining US high profile lawyer and
- 3:27Speaker 1: more importantly, former federal prosecutor, a president of the West
- 3:31Speaker 1: Coast Trial Lawyers Association and author of Harvard to hashtag Nima,
- 3:37Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. A lot has been
- 3:40Speaker 1: made and a lot of whining and crying because there
- 3:44Speaker 1: were multiple raids that.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Went down simultaneously.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Boo who The reason that happens is so when you
- 3:52Speaker 1: get raised in LA, you can't call your peeps in Miami.
- 3:56Speaker 2: Go quick, quick, quick, hide.
- 3:58Speaker 1: One, two, three and four, destroy five, six, seven, and eight.
- 4:01Speaker 2: And ps run for the hills as if you had
- 4:05Speaker 2: seen a monster.
- 4:06Speaker 1: That's why it scott to be very carefully orchestrated and timed,
- 4:11Speaker 1: very organized to go down at the same time for
- 4:14Speaker 1: that very reason, Nima.
- 4:16Speaker 5: Nancy, that's exactly right.
- 4:18Speaker 6: And the raid in Los Angeles took place about a
- 4:21Speaker 6: mile from where I'm sitting right now. I live close
- 4:24Speaker 6: to Ditty's home. And you know, I also know Aaron Dyer.
- 4:27Speaker 6: I used to work with him. I respect him, but
- 4:29Speaker 6: I think he's making that argument for the court of public.
- 4:32Speaker 5: Opinion more than the courtroom.
- 4:33Speaker 6: And you're right, there's three reasons why federal agents go
- 4:36Speaker 6: in and they go aggressively. One, there's always a threat
- 4:39Speaker 6: of violence. And did he reportedly has a lot of weapons.
- 4:42Speaker 6: Agents need to make sure that no one flees the jurisdiction,
- 4:46Speaker 6: evidence isn't destroyed. That's why the raids are executed simultaneously.
- 4:51Speaker 6: When they are individuals are removed from the home, they're cough,
- 4:54Speaker 6: they're detained. No one was arrested, but Diddy was treated
- 4:57Speaker 6: just like any other criminal defendant or target of an investigation.
- 5:02Speaker 5: When these search warrants are executed.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Guys, what do you expect the HSI Homeland Security investigators
- 5:10Speaker 1: to be the minute made and clean.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Up after a search. Yeah, that's not happening, guys.
- 5:16Speaker 1: In the last hours, a lot of whining and complaining
- 5:22Speaker 1: and switching of tail and gnashing.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Of teeth because the Feds quote left.
- 5:26Speaker 1: A mess in Diddy's mansions. You know what, It's amazing
- 5:32Speaker 1: what people will do to hide contraband or evidence. What
- 5:37Speaker 1: evidence am I talking about? Talking about videos? Potential videos
- 5:43Speaker 1: of underage girls and boys in the middle of sex
- 5:48Speaker 1: acts now number one? An underaged child some jurisdictions under eighteen,
- 5:56Speaker 1: some under sixteen, some under fifteen, cannot consent to sex activity.
- 6:01Speaker 1: So even if they appear to be willing in a video,
- 6:05Speaker 1: does anybody remember r Kelly, for Pete's sake, were he
- 6:08Speaker 1: urinated on a teen girl?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not consensual. I don't care what she said
- 6:13Speaker 2: at the time.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Videos that could easily be hidden even if they are
- 6:19Speaker 1: in physical form.
- 6:20Speaker 2: For all I know, they're just on a computer.
- 6:22Speaker 1: That's why every computer, every laptop, every phone, every iPad,
- 6:26Speaker 1: everything has to be seized. And you know what, I'm
- 6:30Speaker 1: waiting on Nima Ramani, I'm waiting on that return.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Explain what is a return, Ramani.
- 6:36Speaker 6: So there's a search one in an application, and when
- 6:39Speaker 6: the search one is executed, there's a return that's filed
- 6:42Speaker 6: with the court and identifies all the property that's been seen.
- 6:45Speaker 6: And like you said, Nancy, what they're looking for here
- 6:48Speaker 6: is evidence of sex trafficking and the production of child pornography. Reportedly,
- 6:52Speaker 6: if you believe these civil lawsuits, not only were they sex.
- 6:55Speaker 5: Acts, they were recorded.
- 6:57Speaker 6: That's a crime, both in terms of the act and
- 7:00Speaker 6: according and we're talking about mandatory minimum sentences.
- 7:02Speaker 5: So it's just probably.
- 7:03Speaker 6: Gonna be a matter of days before Diddy is and dated,
- 7:07Speaker 6: an indictment is unsealed.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Hermione again, you're reading like you sound like you're reading
- 7:14Speaker 1: out of the farmer's Almanac about the crop report for
- 7:17Speaker 1: next year.
- 7:19Speaker 2: Listen, Sean P.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Combs has been targeted. Now everybody keeps saying he's not
- 7:29Speaker 1: the target. That's Bs, because these are his homes on
- 7:34Speaker 1: two sides of the country.
- 7:36Speaker 2: The people at his.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Homes were put in handcuffs during the search, and that
- 7:40Speaker 1: is so pea stand and operating procedure.
- 7:42Speaker 2: So nobody gets shot. There's a lot of.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Whining going on about that too, But in a home
- 7:48Speaker 1: where you are looking for guns, you do not leave
- 7:51Speaker 1: the inhabitants free to grab a gun and start shooting,
- 7:55Speaker 1: So stop whining about that too. Combs is facing an indictment.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with you. This is a big deal. We're
- 8:04Speaker 1: not reading the crop report for twenty twenty five. This
- 8:08Speaker 1: tells me nobody is above the law, not even Combs,
- 8:13Speaker 1: whose net worth is valued at over one billion. That's
- 8:17Speaker 1: with the bees and brother one billion dollars Ramani.
- 8:20Speaker 5: No one is above the law. And really, the chickens
- 8:22Speaker 5: are coming home to Ruis.
- 8:23Speaker 6: This really started in November when ex girlfriend Cassie filed
- 8:27Speaker 6: that bombshell lawsuit and she spilled the tea, and obviously
- 8:31Speaker 6: Diddy settled it the following day.
- 8:34Speaker 5: But really it was too little, too late.
- 8:35Speaker 6: Here's someone that was in a ten year relationship with Diddy,
- 8:38Speaker 6: and once she filed, she encouraged other alleged victims to
- 8:43Speaker 6: come forward, one after another, and if you believe the reports,
- 8:47Speaker 6: some of those victims are already cooperating with law enforcement.
- 8:50Speaker 5: And we know that there's enough.
- 8:52Speaker 6: Probable cause because a federal judge signed off on these
- 8:55Speaker 6: two search warrens, so to be interesting to see what
- 8:58Speaker 6: evidence shows up in that return, what federal agents pull
- 9:03Speaker 6: from those electronics, because that digital footprint, Nancy, I think
- 9:08Speaker 6: that's going to be the evidence that puts Diddy away.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I think you're right because you can discount. I can't,
- 9:13Speaker 1: but some people discount eyewitnesses and victims. But when you've
- 9:16Speaker 1: got it on digital proof, it's hard to argue with
- 9:20Speaker 1: that dynamite combination. You were just seeing Cassie Ventura and
- 9:24Speaker 1: she's not some parasite tic hanging on like some houcci
- 9:29Speaker 1: mama that's latched onto Sean P.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Diddy Combs. She is a star in her own right.
- 9:35Speaker 1: You saw her on album covers One was a Long
- 9:37Speaker 1: Way to Go, One was decene, beautiful and talented. Now
- 9:42Speaker 1: hold on, I'm going to go straight out to Keila
- 9:45Speaker 1: Brantley joining US Investigator Reporter, Dailymail dot Com. Kella again,
- 9:49Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. It did all get
- 9:53Speaker 1: kicked off with Cassie Ventura's complaint explained.
- 9:56Speaker 5: Yeah, that was back in November.
- 9:58Speaker 7: Nancy. Cassie Venta they dated for ten years. She was
- 10:01Speaker 7: actually nineteen years old and he was thirty seven at
- 10:05Speaker 7: the time when they began their relationship.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa wait wait wait, Kiela, let me
- 10:12Speaker 1: allow that to sow kim.
- 10:14Speaker 2: She was nineteen and he was thirty seven. Did you
- 10:18Speaker 2: just say.
- 10:18Speaker 7: That nearly twenty years her senior yep.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Go ahead, not judging yet, not yet.
- 10:23Speaker 7: But she called the relationship abusive controlling. She said that
- 10:27Speaker 7: did he forced her to have sex with male prostitutes
- 10:31Speaker 7: and watched and recorded it. And in addition to that,
- 10:34Speaker 7: she said that he forced her to do drugs and
- 10:38Speaker 7: so many horrific details there, and that went on for
- 10:42Speaker 7: ten years, and that it all culminated in twenty eighteen
- 10:45Speaker 7: when she tried to leave him, and she says that
- 10:47Speaker 7: he came and raped her. Now, this is exactly the
- 10:50Speaker 7: catalyst that sparked all of the other lawsuits. Now he's
- 10:53Speaker 7: facing five lawsuits with a lot of similar stories from
- 10:58Speaker 7: these alleged victims.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Killib Brantley, investigative reporter Daily mail dot Com is exactly correct.
- 11:05Speaker 1: Cassie Ventura claims Combs raped Ventura in her home when
- 11:11Speaker 1: she tried to leave him. Often punched, beat kicked, stomped her,
- 11:17Speaker 1: resulting in bruises, burst lips, black eyes and bleeding blew
- 11:21Speaker 1: up a man's car after Diddy Combs learned the man
- 11:26Speaker 1: was romantically interested in miss Ventura forced her to engage
- 11:30Speaker 1: in sex acts with male sex workers while masturbating and
- 11:34Speaker 1: filming the encounter.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that is a video.
- 11:39Speaker 1: If it can be found, this jury will absolutely see
- 11:43Speaker 1: Combs masturbating and filming the encounters of miss Ventura being
- 11:50Speaker 1: forced into sex acts with male sex workers.
- 11:54Speaker 2: That he ran out of his apartment.
- 11:56Speaker 1: With a firearm in pursuit of a rival industry exec
- 12:00Speaker 1: demanded miss Ventura carry his firearm in her purse, and
- 12:06Speaker 1: introduced miss Ventia to a lifestyle of excessive alcohol, drugs,
- 12:12Speaker 1: and required her to procure illicit prescriptions to satisfy his
- 12:17Speaker 1: own addictions. I'm reading directly from her lawsuit. Now, remember
- 12:23Speaker 1: that is a private lawsuit that is not a public
- 12:27Speaker 1: government document. So you got to take everything that an
- 12:34Speaker 1: ex claims against another x with a box of salt.
- 12:40Speaker 1: But wait a minute, isn't it true Caleb Brantley that
- 12:43Speaker 1: she sued him for about thirty million dollars and they settled.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Combs actually paid her off to get rid of the lawsuit.
- 12:51Speaker 7: They settled. Yep, they settled the next day. As soon
- 12:54Speaker 7: as the lawsuit was filed, the news broke. The next day,
- 12:58Speaker 7: they settled the lawsuit for disclosed amount. She was seeking
- 13:02Speaker 7: thirty million dollars, but we don't know how much they
- 13:04Speaker 7: actually settled for. Both of them came out with statements
- 13:07Speaker 7: saying that they wanted to settle things privately. But in
- 13:11Speaker 7: Diddy's statement, he absolutely did not admit any fault. He
- 13:16Speaker 7: said that this was handled privately and wanted to move on.
- 13:20Speaker 7: He called the allegations baseless. And we've seen that pattern
- 13:24Speaker 7: just now with the raids on his house.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, that's the same kind of thing they're
- 13:28Speaker 2: claiming right now. KILEB. Brantley.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Guys, this is just one of multiple lawsuits filed against Combs.
- 13:36Speaker 2: Sean P.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Dinny Combs, also known as Ditty, also known as Puffy
- 13:57Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace, Let's think about this thing.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Joining me is Shannon Henry.
- 14:05Speaker 1: She is the president and founder of sass Go Surviving
- 14:08Speaker 1: Assault Standing Strong. It's a nonprofit. Shannon Henry h. By
- 14:14Speaker 1: the way, you can find her at saasgo dot org. Shannon,
- 14:16Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. They are multiple lawsuits
- 14:20Speaker 1: five that I can think of against Combs all claiming
- 14:24Speaker 1: sex assault and forcing the victims into sex acts. Now
- 14:30Speaker 1: that's one thing. Five claims and correct me if I'm wrong,
- 14:33Speaker 1: Caller Brantley, because I've got a ton of documents and
- 14:36Speaker 1: information I'm trying to absorb. But here's the thing, Shannon Henry.
- 14:41Speaker 1: When you have one victim, it's easy for the defense
- 14:45Speaker 1: to say that's a he says. She say, like, what
- 14:48Speaker 1: is that in the defense, it's a he says, She say, of.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Course it is.
- 14:52Speaker 1: But when you have two victims, then three, then four,
- 14:55Speaker 1: then five, then is a jury supposed to be they're
- 15:00Speaker 1: all lying and he's the only one telling the truth.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Actually that worked in the Michael Jackson case, so it
- 15:08Speaker 1: could work. But typically in front of jury's a group
- 15:12Speaker 1: of victims, such as in Harvey Weinstein, such as in
- 15:16Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, who do you such as Bill Cosby, what
- 15:20Speaker 1: do you disbelieve? The cadre of victims and choose to
- 15:25Speaker 1: believe they defend.
- 15:26Speaker 8: It right, We're seeing a pattern of abuse, We're seeing
- 15:28Speaker 8: a pattern of violence, and we're seeing it over and
- 15:31Speaker 8: over again from each of these people that are coming
- 15:33Speaker 8: forward and listen, he's an equal opportunity abuser, whether it
- 15:38Speaker 8: was an eleventh grader, a college student, or it was
- 15:42Speaker 8: one of his chefs. So many people have come forward,
- 15:46Speaker 8: even the music producer, to complain about his behavior and
- 15:50Speaker 8: the trafficking that it's going on. And let's call it
- 15:52Speaker 8: what it is. It is trafficking. It's one hundred and
- 15:55Speaker 8: fifty billion dollar industry. It is abuse and assault and
- 15:59Speaker 8: stalking on steroids, and it's the second most profitable illegal
- 16:04Speaker 8: business in the United States. And he's an active part
- 16:06Speaker 8: of it.
- 16:06Speaker 1: You know what you're leaving out of your formula, Shannon,
- 16:11Speaker 1: And everything you just said is correct, by the way.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I remember my first human trafficking case. Then it was
- 16:17Speaker 1: called statutory rape. The girl had just turned fourteen. I'm
- 16:22Speaker 1: getting chills on my arm right now. And I looked
- 16:25Speaker 1: and I looked, and I looked for her, couldn't find her.
- 16:28Speaker 1: I went out every day and I remember it was
- 16:32Speaker 1: cold outside and I was straight out of law school.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I had no money, I had the thinnest coat ever.
- 16:38Speaker 1: It was so cold, and we would look and look
- 16:41Speaker 1: and look. Finally I get a call at like six
- 16:44Speaker 1: am in the morning.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I raised to the location. It's a flophouse.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Then on Stuart Avenue, which was the avenue at the
- 16:52Speaker 1: time for sex trading drugs, and I went in where
- 16:55Speaker 1: they said the girl was. I looked at there were
- 16:57Speaker 1: like five women. I came out like, it's not a
- 16:58Speaker 1: girl in there. Why did you get me here? I
- 17:01Speaker 1: need to be at the courthouse. And they went go
- 17:04Speaker 1: back in. Look at the one in the white boots.
- 17:07Speaker 1: I went back in, Shannon, this was a little girl.
- 17:11Speaker 1: She had the fake hair, the fake eyelashes, the boustier,
- 17:17Speaker 1: the height, the mini skirt. If such as it was,
- 17:23Speaker 1: it didn't look anything like a fourteen year old little
- 17:26Speaker 1: girl at She like a thirty five year old drug addict.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Long story short.
- 17:32Speaker 1: She had been passed around and used and taken from
- 17:35Speaker 1: one place to the next, and had, you know, fifteen
- 17:39Speaker 1: to twenty men rape her a day. Okay, That's what
- 17:46Speaker 1: I'm talking about. And if these allegations are true, Shannon
- 17:50Speaker 1: Henry Combs is no better than those two pimps.
- 17:58Speaker 8: And I would even beg everyone to see too that
- 18:02Speaker 8: there is an institution, a brand, if you will, of
- 18:06Speaker 8: complicity that he's created around him too. With his I
- 18:10Speaker 8: call him buddyguards, That's what the industry calls them. People
- 18:14Speaker 8: that have watched this go on and been complicit in
- 18:17Speaker 8: all of it and enabled it in ways by not
- 18:21Speaker 8: acting and not responding on behalf of the victim and
- 18:24Speaker 8: what they're seeing in front of them.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I want you to hear what the impetus was for
- 18:30Speaker 1: this major, major search, and I'm telling you to have
- 18:35Speaker 1: HSI Homeland Security investigators roll up in front of Itty's
- 18:42Speaker 1: mansion and break in. They went armed, they went wearing
- 18:47Speaker 1: body armor. They immediately subdued and handcuffed everyone in the
- 18:53Speaker 1: home as they should have, while simultaneously, across the country,
- 18:59Speaker 1: additional locations venues connected to Sean pay COB's were searched
- 19:06Speaker 1: and searched thoroughly. Take listen to Sidney Sumner Crime on Line.
- 19:12Speaker 3: Before producer Rodney Lilrod Jones explosive lawsuit. Four more alleged
- 19:17Speaker 3: victims filed suit against Comb's. The first came from an
- 19:20Speaker 3: ex girlfriend R and B singer Cassandra Cassie Ventura. Ventura claims,
- 19:25Speaker 3: in addition to physical abuse occurring throughout their decade long
- 19:28Speaker 3: on and off relationship, Combs coerced her to participate in
- 19:32Speaker 3: what he called freakofs which involved Ventura having sex with
- 19:35Speaker 3: male sex workers while Combs watched, masturbated, and took videos
- 19:39Speaker 3: of the encounter. Combs also allegedly broke into Ventura's home
- 19:43Speaker 3: and raped her after she broke off their relationship in
- 19:45Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Three other lawsuits followed. Ventura's. Joy Dickerson Neil
- 19:50Speaker 3: claims Combs drugged her at a nineteen ninety one dinner
- 19:53Speaker 3: date and later recorded himself raping her. Liza Gardner's suit
- 19:57Speaker 3: alleges that Comb's and R and B singer Aaron assaulted
- 20:01Speaker 3: her and a friend at Hall's apartment when she was
- 20:03Speaker 3: just sixteen years old. An anonymous victim details a two
- 20:07Speaker 3: thousand and three gang rate by Combe's and two others
- 20:10Speaker 3: at his New York studio. Combs settled Venture's lawsuit just
- 20:13Speaker 3: a day after it was filed. The remaining four complaints
- 20:16Speaker 3: are still unresolved.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory psychologist and mediator who specializes in forensic psychology.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us. You know
- 20:27Speaker 1: this is what everybody is asking me, okay, And the
- 20:31Speaker 1: reason I care what anybody says is because who's going
- 20:36Speaker 1: to be on that jury that's going to be seated
- 20:38Speaker 1: one day? He can't like wiggle out of a federal
- 20:43Speaker 1: indictment if that happens. We asked a defense attorney on
- 20:47Speaker 1: He's like, no way, but I hope.
- 20:50Speaker 2: He joins us.
- 20:51Speaker 1: So, you know, a lot of talk about how he
- 20:55Speaker 1: was targeted, how he's not the target yet, his home was.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Targeted, and blah law.
- 21:01Speaker 1: But when you get a federal indictment shoved up your
- 21:04Speaker 1: rear end, it's kind of hard to get out of
- 21:06Speaker 1: that with just talking.
- 21:07Speaker 2: But this is what gurrs.
- 21:09Speaker 1: May wonder, because this is what is being asked to
- 21:11Speaker 1: me since the moment this hit the airwaves.
- 21:14Speaker 2: Why would a guy worth over.
- 21:16Speaker 1: One billion dollars bother to drug miners some is you
- 21:23Speaker 1: only sixteen? Is the allegation and video himself raping them
- 21:29Speaker 1: when he can have practically any woman he wanted that
- 21:34Speaker 1: were after fame and fortune. See to me, I don't care,
- 21:38Speaker 1: But a juror may wonder that what about it dilatory?
- 21:40Speaker 9: Well, because he can't. I mean, ultimately, this is about
- 21:43Speaker 9: the thrill that he was getting by exploiting and embarrassing
- 21:46Speaker 9: all of these individuals. A lot of people talk about
- 21:48Speaker 9: power and control that these guys you know, who like
- 21:51Speaker 9: to do these kinds of abuses like to have the
- 21:53Speaker 9: power and control. But it's more than that when it
- 21:55Speaker 9: comes to Diddio. I mean we see things about violence
- 21:58Speaker 9: and drugs and guns. As was described earlier, he's an
- 22:01Speaker 9: equal opportunity abuser.
- 22:03Speaker 5: This is God.
- 22:04Speaker 9: This is a guy who thinks money, power respect is
- 22:07Speaker 9: the be all and all that his word is the
- 22:10Speaker 9: word that goes and whatever it is that suits his fancy,
- 22:13Speaker 9: that's what he's going to do. He's doing it because
- 22:17Speaker 9: he has the money to do it, and he gets
- 22:18Speaker 9: the thrill out of it. And this more important to
- 22:21Speaker 9: him is getting the thrill rather than just having someone
- 22:24Speaker 9: just come up to him and offer themselves. There's no
- 22:26Speaker 9: fun in that for him. He wants to bring down
- 22:29Speaker 9: and embarrass, He wants to abuse, he wants to inflict
- 22:32Speaker 9: pain on individuals.
- 22:34Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand something, doctor delatory, because obviously you
- 22:36Speaker 1: have encountered this.
- 22:38Speaker 2: I've encountered it while prosecuting.
- 22:40Speaker 1: But so the thrill is drugging someone and raping them
- 22:45Speaker 1: while they're they're totally knocked out like Cosby.
- 22:50Speaker 2: That's the thrill.
- 22:51Speaker 9: That's the trill. That's absolutely the thrll, especially if they're
- 22:54Speaker 9: the ones that say no. The more they say No,
- 22:57Speaker 9: the more they struggle against it, the harder that the
- 23:00Speaker 9: abuser is going to go, the more thrill they get.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Out of it.
- 23:03Speaker 1: You know, I don't even like hearing you say that
- 23:05Speaker 1: that's true though, but I get it. And that's what's
- 23:08Speaker 1: gonna have to be explained to a jury if this
- 23:10Speaker 1: ever goes to a jury.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Guys.
- 23:13Speaker 1: In addition to investigative reporter Killa Brantley, Shannon Henry from
- 23:17Speaker 1: sas Doctor Delatory, and high profile lawyer, former federal prosecutor
- 23:22Speaker 1: Nina Nima Romani, Oh, that reminds me of something, Nema.
- 23:25Speaker 2: I was about to go to Barry Golden.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Hold on Barry uh former US Marshall, And I'm telling
- 23:30Speaker 1: you they don't play uh.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Nima.
- 23:33Speaker 1: I was a FED for three years and I nearly
- 23:36Speaker 1: jumped out of my skin because we would have, for instance,
- 23:41Speaker 1: in a case I was working, we would have a
- 23:43Speaker 1: whole room full of boxes of documents, and I'd be saying, well,
- 23:49Speaker 1: when do we actually get to do something?
- 23:51Speaker 2: When are we going to do the raid? When are
- 23:52Speaker 2: we going to make there is?
- 23:53Speaker 1: Because they're doing it right now, why are we waiting?
- 23:59Speaker 2: So I'm telling you.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Naima, that the FEDS had some serious p C probable
- 24:06Speaker 1: cause before they blast up in comes his mansions.
- 24:10Speaker 6: Oh, you're absolutely right, And this is an investigation that's
- 24:14Speaker 6: being run out of the Southern District of New York,
- 24:16Speaker 6: probably the most prestigious prosecutor's office in the country.
- 24:19Speaker 5: They hire the brightest and the best.
- 24:22Speaker 6: So just because the raids were executed in Los Angeles
- 24:25Speaker 6: and Miami doesn't mean the investigation started here.
- 24:29Speaker 5: It started in New York, so they know what they're doing.
- 24:32Speaker 6: And you know, Nancy, the Feds wait until they have
- 24:35Speaker 6: a made hand, a bulletproof, ironclad case before they go in.
- 24:39Speaker 6: They have the luxury of waiting of interviewing those witnesses,
- 24:43Speaker 6: putting them before the grand jury. Because once you execute
- 24:46Speaker 6: a search works like this, Evan starts to disappear. People
- 24:50Speaker 6: may disappear. So this is the final step before people
- 24:54Speaker 6: start getting arrested.
- 24:55Speaker 1: It's the culmination of months and months and months of working,
- 24:58Speaker 1: if not longer.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Comes may have been on their radar for a while, but.
- 25:03Speaker 1: These lawsuits basically shamed the Feds into doing something they
- 25:06Speaker 1: couldn't hold back anymore. And see, they've got what I
- 25:10Speaker 1: don't have, and I pray for it, Nima, because It's
- 25:13Speaker 1: bit me in the rear end many a time. I
- 25:16Speaker 1: don't have patience because see I'm thinking, hey, while I'm
- 25:19Speaker 1: waiting to do something, he may be molesting another girl,
- 25:25Speaker 1: he may be drugging another girl.
- 25:28Speaker 2: And see I'm thinking that. But they think the long game.
- 25:33Speaker 1: The Feds think the long game, which is it's a
- 25:37Speaker 1: fault of mine not to play the long game.
- 25:41Speaker 2: But they're right.
- 25:44Speaker 1: If you want to win, you play the long game,
- 25:47Speaker 1: and you get every tea crossed, every I dotted. Then
- 25:50Speaker 1: you move bottom line. When they move on you, it's
- 25:54Speaker 1: too late for you.
- 25:55Speaker 2: You're dead.
- 25:56Speaker 1: It's over because they got the goods on you. They're
- 26:00Speaker 1: just not going to make a move like this. And
- 26:02Speaker 1: if they've got a lot of evidence, guys joining me
- 26:05Speaker 1: right now, A guy I know you want to hear
- 26:06Speaker 1: from former US Marshall and owner now of Golden Consulting
- 26:11Speaker 1: at Golden dashci dot com, Mary Golden, A significant portion
- 26:17Speaker 1: of this case is criminal enterprise.
- 26:21Speaker 2: Anybody jump in, We're not having high tay at winsor Castle.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Please criminal enterprise, which means a plan more than one
- 26:30Speaker 1: person is involved. Even though this raid may have been
- 26:35Speaker 1: sparked by multiple lawsuits against Combs. The defense have got
- 26:39Speaker 1: to prove that there was a criminal enterprise, and they're
- 26:43Speaker 1: using claims of sex acts on other women men in
- 26:49Speaker 1: different states, traveling or moving the victims in order for
- 26:54Speaker 1: them to have sex with Combs or other people. Why
- 27:01Speaker 1: the aspect of asportation, in other words, movement is important
- 27:06Speaker 1: in this case.
- 27:07Speaker 10: The conviction rate in the Southern District of Florida. I
- 27:09Speaker 10: prosecuted cases through the US Attorney's Office for several years,
- 27:14Speaker 10: and the conviction rate in the Southern District of Florida
- 27:18Speaker 10: was ninety eight percent. So yes, you are right.
- 27:21Speaker 5: When they bring.
- 27:23Speaker 10: The federal government, the US Attorney's Office brings an indictment.
- 27:27Speaker 10: If they do, they have a lot of ammunition on you.
- 27:31Speaker 10: As Nima just mentioned that a federal judge already found
- 27:35Speaker 10: probable cause that there is evidence to conduct these searches
- 27:39Speaker 10: that the homes here in Miami and in New York.
- 27:43Speaker 10: But yes, you're going to have numerous witnesses. I think
- 27:47Speaker 10: that this case is going to still take a long
- 27:49Speaker 10: time because you have so much evidence. You have to
- 27:52Speaker 10: bring in all these people. Rodney Jones, you can only
- 27:57Speaker 10: he can only testify to what he witnessed and what
- 27:59Speaker 10: happened to him. You have to bring in other witnesses
- 28:02Speaker 10: that these alleged sex acts occurred with. And so you're
- 28:06Speaker 10: gonna have to find these witnesses, interview these witnesses, bring
- 28:09Speaker 10: them in, lock them into a statement, and then put
- 28:12Speaker 10: all that into an indictment. So I think you're still
- 28:15Speaker 10: months away from seeing an indictment. But there's so much
- 28:19Speaker 10: information that you're looking at here. You just look at
- 28:22Speaker 10: the civil complaint by Rodney Jones, and it's very long.
- 28:25Speaker 10: There's so much information there. There are so many allegations.
- 28:30Speaker 10: You know, there's a lot of information. But you know
- 28:34Speaker 10: the HSI going in the attorney was complaining about so
- 28:38Speaker 10: many agents. Look at that compound right there. Look how
- 28:41Speaker 10: big that mansion is. You need a lot of manpower.
- 28:45Speaker 10: And with the allegations of firearms being at that location,
- 28:50Speaker 10: you never know how someone's going to react. When as
- 28:53Speaker 10: a federal agent you come in there and you take
- 28:56Speaker 10: control of their residents, you don't know how they're going
- 28:59Speaker 10: to react. You have to have a lot of manpower
- 29:03Speaker 10: and a lot of bodies to secure that location so
- 29:05Speaker 10: a search can be conducted.
- 29:07Speaker 1: Barry Golden, I got one word for you, Waco Waco.
- 29:13Speaker 5: Geting that yes, the Fed's moving.
- 29:16Speaker 1: Koresh gets all of his followers who are all many
- 29:20Speaker 1: of them molesting little girls and their religion. They fire
- 29:27Speaker 1: on the Feds and everything goes wild. And I still
- 29:30Speaker 1: remember seeing the video of the flames and the standoff
- 29:36Speaker 1: and the shootout when Fed's moved in. And I've got
- 29:40Speaker 1: to tell you something. I've been on many searches and
- 29:44Speaker 1: arrests pursuit to warrant, of course.
- 29:47Speaker 2: And people don't take to it very kindly, and they
- 29:49Speaker 2: can reach a gun. You're in trouble. Into story.
- 29:52Speaker 1: Here's another thing we see going on to Kili Brantley
- 29:55Speaker 1: joining US investigative reporter Daily Mail. We know that Combs
- 29:59Speaker 1: is alleged drug mule was arrested at the Miami airport
- 30:05Speaker 1: at the same time comes as rappers sons are putting
- 30:09Speaker 1: cuffs during the raids on the mansions. Who is the
- 30:12Speaker 1: alleged drug meal. It's very significant because the fans are
- 30:17Speaker 1: going to be looking for witnesses and this alleged mule
- 30:22Speaker 1: could do life and Max or he could ride out Combs,
- 30:27Speaker 1: what do you think he's going to do? Tell me
- 30:29Speaker 1: about the drug mule, The alleged drug meal. Brandon Paul,
- 30:32Speaker 1: aged twenty five.
- 30:33Speaker 7: Yeah, so twenty five year old Brendan Paul. He was
- 30:36Speaker 7: arrested Monday as these raids went on. He was arrested
- 30:40Speaker 7: out of Miami Airport and he was about to board
- 30:44Speaker 7: Combes's plane to what was believed to be going to
- 30:47Speaker 7: the Caribbean. Now, when the authorities checked his bags, they
- 30:52Speaker 7: found cocaine and last candy, and so they arrested him
- 30:57Speaker 7: for that. They said that it's not directly involved. It's
- 31:00Speaker 7: not an arrest directly involved in the raids. However, Homeland
- 31:04Speaker 7: Security did send officers there to check out Colmes's plane. Now,
- 31:08Speaker 7: this was a guy from Ohio. He played college basketball.
- 31:13Speaker 7: We're not exactly sure how he became involved with Ditty,
- 31:17Speaker 7: but according to the lawsuit filed last month from producer
- 31:20Speaker 7: Little Rod, he was Ditty's alleged drug mule.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Prime stories with me. It's he Grace. Okay.
- 31:41Speaker 1: So now we're looking at sex trafficking and to you,
- 31:45Speaker 1: Shannon Henry, to make out joining us from SASS, which
- 31:48Speaker 1: is surviving assault, standing strong, to make out sex trafficking.
- 31:54Speaker 1: It's not as hard as people think. Explain what it
- 31:59Speaker 1: means to say x traffic someone.
- 32:01Speaker 8: Well, you know the way that people are trafficked, they
- 32:05Speaker 8: look for a vulnerable population, whether they're young, they're in
- 32:09Speaker 8: a hard season of their life, they're looking for fame,
- 32:11Speaker 8: they're looking to make.
- 32:13Speaker 2: It big, whatever it is.
- 32:15Speaker 8: They're going to use coercion. They're going to force them
- 32:18Speaker 8: with threats and stalking and violence to repay a debt,
- 32:23Speaker 8: whatever it may be. And we certainly see that here
- 32:25Speaker 8: in Cassie's story as well as the others. So you've
- 32:29Speaker 8: got this isolation that's happening, this coercion, this power, and
- 32:33Speaker 8: then the most powerful weapon of all is shame because
- 32:37Speaker 8: on top of all of this, you've got video of everything,
- 32:41Speaker 8: and they can shame them into complicity and being quiet
- 32:44Speaker 8: and silence is ultimately the biggest evil. And I agree
- 32:48Speaker 8: bringing these people forward, giving witnesses the ability to testify
- 32:54Speaker 8: will ultimately be what really brings down the entire playbook.
- 32:59Speaker 8: And let's not forget the Fahim Mohammad is also who
- 33:03Speaker 8: is helping, you know, behind the scenes with all of
- 33:07Speaker 8: this as Diddy's director of security and he worked previously
- 33:12Speaker 8: for Michael Jackson.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Wow, that's quite the Cohen getting hump. Nima Ramani is
- 33:17Speaker 1: joining us NIMA, now high profile lawyer and the president
- 33:22Speaker 1: of West Coast Trial Lawyers. But important for me, former
- 33:26Speaker 1: federal prosecutor, what about this? Nobody likes to rite out
- 33:32Speaker 1: a friend, right, Snitches get stitches and all that. But
- 33:37Speaker 1: there's one guy, Fitty from G Unit g Unit Rapper
- 33:42Speaker 1: fifty cents who.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Has been mocking diddy up for a long time.
- 33:47Speaker 1: In fact, when this all went down, he states is
- 33:51Speaker 1: not did did he do it? It's did he done it?
- 33:54Speaker 1: Because they don't come after you until they got a case.
- 33:56Speaker 1: That's Simony's going on and on and on.
- 33:57Speaker 2: Why do I care?
- 33:58Speaker 1: Because he may have inside information, not just him, but Usher,
- 34:05Speaker 1: even Bieber, justin Bieber. And I'm not saying any of
- 34:10Speaker 1: them are responsible for any wrongdoing. I'm saying that they
- 34:16Speaker 1: obviously have been around daring some let me just say
- 34:21Speaker 1: comes as antics because when Bieber was asked when he
- 34:28Speaker 1: was a teen boy, hey, what happened when you were
- 34:33Speaker 1: hanging out with Combs? He said, well, I can't say,
- 34:37Speaker 1: but it's every fifteen year old boy's dream.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Okay.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Usher has publicly stated that he saw some quote, very
- 34:47Speaker 1: curious things when hanging out with Combs and You've got
- 34:51Speaker 1: Fiddy making jokes and did his expense explain they could
- 34:57Speaker 1: turn up to be witnesses.
- 34:58Speaker 5: Oh, no question.
- 35:00Speaker 6: You know fifty cent and Diddy's viewed is pretty well documented.
- 35:03Speaker 6: Fifty's actually working on a documentary about all this. But Nancy,
- 35:07Speaker 6: this may well be a Jeff Epstein type situation. We
- 35:10Speaker 6: know Cuba Gooding Junior, He's already been named in a
- 35:12Speaker 6: civil lawsuit. You know, Prince Harry's name has been mentioned.
- 35:16Speaker 6: And Diddy rubs shoulders with rich and powerful people here
- 35:21Speaker 6: in Los Angeles, in all over the world. So the
- 35:24Speaker 6: question is going to be who was there, what did
- 35:26Speaker 6: they see, what did they do? And I wouldn't be
- 35:29Speaker 6: surprised if more and more names start being leaked that
- 35:34Speaker 6: our people that you know are very well known that
- 35:38Speaker 6: either are witnesses or even worse, participated in some of
- 35:41Speaker 6: these sex acts.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I tell my children. Of course, this
- 35:44Speaker 2: is on a small scale.
- 35:45Speaker 1: You got to an event, you go to a party,
- 35:47Speaker 1: you see one taine dranking leaf, you see one tanane
- 35:52Speaker 1: with a joint. Leave because if you stay then you're
- 35:55Speaker 1: part of it. You become part of it. Whether you
- 35:58Speaker 1: do anything wrong or not, You're there. You are part
- 36:02Speaker 1: of it. It's called being a codefendant. Speaking of Ussher,
- 36:08Speaker 1: take a listen to what Ussher had to say.
- 36:10Speaker 11: We're sending you to something called Puffy Flavor Camp. You
- 36:13Speaker 11: go to camp, Yeah, that's what it was called. And
- 36:16Speaker 11: you're going to go to puff Daddy's He's hidden in nineties.
- 36:19Speaker 11: Do you understand what that's like. Puffy's place was like
- 36:22Speaker 11: just filled with chicks and orging like NonStop.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Right, No, not really, I mean, but hey, it was curious.
- 36:28Speaker 2: I got a chance to see some things.
- 36:29Speaker 11: Yeah, but you were thirteen.
- 36:30Speaker 2: What we went there to see the lifestyle?
- 36:32Speaker 6: Right?
- 36:33Speaker 5: And I saw it. It was.
- 36:34Speaker 11: It was, but I don't know if I could indulge
- 36:36Speaker 11: and understand what I was even looking at.
- 36:38Speaker 5: It was.
- 36:39Speaker 2: It was pretty wild, Okay.
- 36:42Speaker 1: He went on to say that you'd open a door
- 36:46Speaker 1: and there would be people in that room, multiple women
- 36:50Speaker 1: and men having orgies, a totally different set of sex,
- 36:56Speaker 1: specifically always girls around. This was when he was thirteen.
- 37:02Speaker 1: Now you're hearing Usher speaking to Howard Stern and being
- 37:07Speaker 1: very very candid. Stern has the ability to get people
- 37:11Speaker 1: to drop their guard and speak as they would as
- 37:15Speaker 1: if they were speaking to a longtime friend in the
- 37:17Speaker 1: privacy of their home as you saw right there. And
- 37:21Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if, as this case goes forward to
- 37:25Speaker 1: Barry Golden, former US Marshall, if we're going to see
- 37:29Speaker 1: more people their high profile being forced pursue it to
- 37:34Speaker 1: subpoena to speak out.
- 37:37Speaker 10: Yes, when you read in some of these civil lawsuits,
- 37:40Speaker 10: you see that there are allegations that there are other people,
- 37:44Speaker 10: other witnesses, that were there at the time when these
- 37:48Speaker 10: alleged criminal acts occurred. So now the US Attorney's Office
- 37:52Speaker 10: is going to have to find those people, interview those people,
- 37:56Speaker 10: and then get these people to be willing to test
- 38:00Speaker 10: against Sean P. Diddy, Colmbs, this person who is a
- 38:05Speaker 10: mega superstar with millions and millions or billions of dollars,
- 38:09Speaker 10: and now they have to be able to stand up
- 38:13Speaker 10: and face him in court and say he did this, this,
- 38:17Speaker 10: and this. The US Attorney's Office is going to have
- 38:20Speaker 10: to find these people and bring these people in and
- 38:22Speaker 10: be willing to testify against a mega superstar.
- 38:27Speaker 1: And people, very often, I hate to say, don't come
- 38:31Speaker 1: forward out of the goodness of their heart.
- 38:33Speaker 2: They have to be forced. In other words, you have.
- 38:36Speaker 1: To threaten them with unnamed co conspirator status. It's going
- 38:43Speaker 1: to be tough exactly who is a government and these
- 38:48Speaker 1: alleged victims up against? Take a listen to our cut
- 38:52Speaker 1: one Rachel Benia Crime Online.
- 38:54Speaker 12: Sean Combs aka Puff Daddy, P Diddy and Brother Love
- 38:57Speaker 12: is credited with the development of several big names hip
- 39:00Speaker 12: hop artists, including Notorious Big and Usher. Did His own
- 39:03Speaker 12: music career is just as impressive, with eleven number one singles,
- 39:06Speaker 12: fourteen nominations, and three Grammy Awards. In addition to Combs's label,
- 39:11Speaker 12: bad Boy Records, the rap mogul Co founds the network
- 39:13Speaker 12: Revolt TV, and hosts several businesses under the umbrella company
- 39:17Speaker 12: Comb's Global. At Forbes's last estimate, Combs had a net
- 39:20Speaker 12: worth of roughly one billion dollars.
- 39:23Speaker 1: Will they's alleged victims stand up against colms one billion
- 39:32Speaker 1: dollars at the last estimate, We wait as just as unfalls.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,