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S4 89. Dr Robert Rodich – Quantum Healer a War of Frequency's · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard See podcast.
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit in virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
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  himself from the dead, and yet we're not going to believe that
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  anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his
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  word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven, so they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
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  being spoken. These giants would live way up
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  in the island. The young Braves, the young men
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  would hide them in the trees. They wait.
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  For one of these 12 footers to come.
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  Walking down the bath and they would jump on them and kill them
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  and drag them back to the village and the village would
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  feast on the body. Then people start to get.
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  Weapons. They start to get armor, They
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  start to build cities, they start to fortify their cities.
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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere, the battle,
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  this war that we are at. Is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities and these rulers
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  and these archons In the high places, it's.
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  Really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
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  Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control.
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  Because we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
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  the Kingdom of Darkness. Welcome back to the Millennial
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  Mustard Seed Podcast. I am your host Rod, and thank
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  you for being here with me again.
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  I have a bombshell episode for you guys.
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  This is a part one with the one and only Doctor Robert Rodich,
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  and we have a fascinating conversation.
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  Let me just tell you that right off the bat.
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  This is one for the records you guys.
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  This is part one of many parts. Just a little glimpse to what's
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  come down the pipeline. We have a lot of territory to
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  cover. He's a well established author.
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  He's been a pastor. Had pastored for, I think it was
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  like 30 years at some point. He's getting ready real soon
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  here to celebrate his 70th birthday.
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  He's an interesting man with quite a story to tell and his
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  research and some of the methods he uses.
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  I don't know if many people are going to be aware of what Doc
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  does, but it's fascinating and I have to testify it works.
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  And this is one of those conversations that just will
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  keep you coming back for more, because I'm on the edge of my
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  seat for the next time I have him on the podcast, which
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  shouldn't be too far down the road.
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  But what you guys have to look forward to on this recording is
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  enough for the time being. We talk about Frequency, his
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  testimony. We talk all about the spiritual
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  realm, sonship of God, the enemy, the good guys.
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  Aliens. I mean, we dive into like every
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  topic on this one and still get a bit of his testimony, and
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  there's so much more to cover. But listen, I need you guys to
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  So I won't waste any more time. I am ready to dive into this
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  episode. Are you guys ready?
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  Let's go. Hello, everyone, this is Doctor
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  Robert Broditch, and we'd like to welcome you to the Millennial
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  Mustard Seed Podcast. And we're glad you decided to
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  join us today. So welcome.
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  Doctor Robert, that was an awesome introduction and I'm
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  happy to have you here, man. We've had a couple conversations
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  and I am excited to have you here on this episode with me.
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  Thank you for being here. Well, thank you, Ron.
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  I came across you in a very unique way, and I'm glad that
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  God works all things together for the good and he's mysterious
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  and how he connects us together. It's it's an interesting
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  journey, isn't it? Yes, it is.
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  I kind of want to start at the beginning a little bit here, and
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  I'd like to ask you just to dive into telling us how you became
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  Doctor Robert Rodish that you are today.
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  Wow. Well, now, keep in mind that on
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  the day that we're we're taping this, if that's the proper term
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  for a podcast, I'm just a little less than a month away from
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  having my 70th birthday. So I've been around for a little
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  while and I go back to where I was saved in the early 1970s and
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  it would have been the end of the Jesus movement, which this
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  movie that just came out recently.
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  Now, I wasn't one of the guys in the movie, but it was so funny
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  when I saw all those hippie types up there playing their
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  musical instruments and things like that.
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  I was one of those guys on the platform at a church after just
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  getting saved with the long hair and everything, and they asked
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  us to come in and and do worship songs.
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  Of course, we didn't know any of the songs that were in the
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  hymnal or anything like that at that point, which I know I'm all
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  by heart now. And I can even tell you in some
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  days what page what the song was, you know, after you've been
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  around a while. We didn't have any of that in
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  those days. So, you know, we sang, you know,
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  all the kind of Jesus tunes that they were was going around.
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  And so I did get wonderfully and gloriously saved in the early
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  70s, knew almost immediately that I had some kind of a call
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  on my life. And what was also interesting,
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  Rob, is that the gifts of the Holy Spirit started operating
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  fairly quickly in my life. I just had words of wisdom,
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  words of knowledge. It was filled with the Holy
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  Spirit very soon after becoming a believer.
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  And sorry to some of our evangelical friends who think
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  you get everything all at one time.
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  That wasn't my personal experience.
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  So I just said, well, what do I do?
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  Well, the Assemblies of God at that time had a wonderful and
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  probably still do training program that you were, we were
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  able to do through correspondence.
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  In those days, there was nothing online at all.
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  I mean, we were lucky we could afford telephones in some cases
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  and just landlines, you know, let alone cell phones.
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  Not even a thought 50 years ago. So I started my training and
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  then eventually went to the university and and eventually
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  got a Doctorate of Divinity degree.
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  But in my ministry with the Assemblies of God, which lasted
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  for nearly 30 years, I would be an individual that they would
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  send into, oh, churches that were maybe had either had
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  trouble or were struggling a little bit.
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  And they just wanted a foundation laid.
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  So, you know, I can't sit here. You know, I would be totally
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  telling them this truth if I said, Oh yeah, we started with
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  eight people and we ended up with 25,000.
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  You know how some people are, well, that, you know, no big
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  fish stories here. You know, we'd go in and there'd
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  be maybe 20 people, 25 people, and by the time we left, it
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  would be 100 and 25200 people. And then the growth would take
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  place afterwards. We check back a couple years
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  later and you know, they would be running 3 or 400 people,
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  which for little communities was wonderful.
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  So that's where I spent the majority of my time between Iowa
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  and Tennessee. Eventually, you know, I realized
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  fairly early on that, hey, if I'm going to go into a church
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  setting where they can't really pay me any money, I need to have
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  a skill. Well, to show you how things can
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  happen sometimes, all of a sudden I've developed kind of a
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  health issue and nobody could solve it and wasn't anything
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  like super major. They'd all just tell me, hey, go
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  home, there's nothing we can do about it.
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  And so as the Lord led, I found a lady chiropractor that said,
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  listen, you need to go see if you can get into this guy.
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  His name is Doctor DA Versendal and he teaches a muscle testing
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  technique called Contact Reflex analysis and if you can get in
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  he may have some answers for you.
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  So when I filled out the forms I put my DD down.
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  Well I think that they thought that I had forgotten an S and
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  let me in thinking that I was a dentist and so when I got in I
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  was able he, you know he he I'm introduced myself and and he he
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  just for some reason he just liked me right away.
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  So he said now you can stay man don't worry about it.
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  Well then in the process now I'm kind of going over everything
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  lickety split here. I mean, there's obviously years
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  of ministry, tremendous healings, people being saved,
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  you know, the things that you would expect just from normal
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  fruit from ministry. But we're kind of getting to
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  where the focus is today. So Doctor Versendall at this
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  particular meeting, I believe it was in Dallas, TX back in the
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  early 90s, said does anybody have any inroads into President
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  Ronald Reagan? Because I just understand that
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  he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's and I'd really like
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  to try to help him. So during the break I went up
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  and I said, well, Doctor Versendall, I said I can't make
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  any promises. But it just so happens that I
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  have an uncle that my whole life I've been calling Uncle Moon,
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  like Sun and Moon. Well, his name, that was his
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  nickname, Didn't even know till after that that his first name
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  was Neil. His last name just happened to
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  be Reagan. So he's Ronald Reagan's brother,
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  who is my great uncle. So I contacted him and his wife
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  and unfortunately Ronald Reagan's wife Nancy, who was
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  into some kind of interesting stuff to say the least, kind of
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  acted as his gatekeeper and we were never able to get through,
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  but yet just the opportunity. Doctor Versendal was so
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  grateful. He paid for my education so that
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  I got a second doctorate level in Clinical Nutrition.
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  And so that became a way that I could help my family, you know,
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  go through the, you know, get clothes and food and things like
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  that so that I can still pastor at the same time.
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  And I became actually really, really good at finding
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  nutritional deficiencies for people and connecting them with
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  wonderful nutritional protocols that, especially back in the 90s
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  into the early 2000, work really, really well until they
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  started spraying all the garbage in the skies and even, you know,
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  even messing the food up better and things like that.
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  So in a nutshell, that's how I got at least too close to where
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  I'm at today. So definitely some highlights
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  there. It's very interesting journey.
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  I love the mystery of how God works in and through us to cause
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  his will to come about. And sometimes we don't always
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  know exactly where we're going or what's taking place.
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  But it's definitely important to listen to that still small
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  voice, right? So, absolutely, yeah.
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  I want to ask you this real quick before we start diving
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  deeper into your book and what it is that you do.
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  Just from how long that you've been serving Christ.
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  And as much of that you've seen change over all these years,
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  what's one of the things within Christianity that you've seen
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  for the positive as a whole, not just like a local church or
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  local body, but in the Western? Atmosphere here.
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  What's a positive thing that you've seen maintain true to the
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  gospel and what are some of the negatives that you know like the
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  stigmas or or just anything that's kind of has a a negative
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  overarch with Christianity. Can you just hit maybe one or
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  two things? Yeah.
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  When I asked you if you had any questions written down that, you
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  know, that's a really good one, man.
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  Yeah. I mean, well, I mean overall and
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  I don't, I am not a negative person.
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  In fact, I've kind of squelched negativity, but neither am I
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  like on the gushy side of positive either.
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  You know, I'm kind of, you know, you know, it's kind of like,
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  yeah, I hope I'm balanced and and it's kind of like, you know,
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  because you really do need to see things for what they are
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  most of what I've seen in the last because I only can go back.
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  You know, I'm almost 70 so I was nearly 20 years old when I got
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  saved. So.
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  So I've been around for 50 years in in the church, and I would
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  have to say this, in the early days of things, I think people
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  were much more caring and not even in people's business, but
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  just genuinely caring than they are today.
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  That that would be, that would be one of my observations, being
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  having a charismatic or what people would call Pentecostal
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  background from almost day one. Because that's the way the Lord
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  moved on me. I would say that it was really
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  exciting in those early days to have people that were left over
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  from a lot of the great 10 tent revivals and who people who had
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  seen Branham and a a Allen and how they reached out in so many
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  ways. And I mean if you had a need
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  man, I mean they were there. Now, having said that, I know
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  that there's still individuals within churches today that will
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  do that because I've heard many wonderful stories, but it
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  doesn't seem to be churchwide because everybody seems to be
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  otherwise focused, you know, soccer for their kids, you know,
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  which, no offense, but I don't even like soccer, but you know,
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  I'm, I'm a tennis and and American football and baseball
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  guys. So that's just the way it is.
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  But you know, it's cool. It has its place and so, So the
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  positives are still that Jesus has never changed.
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  His word has ever powerful. One of my big surprises is that
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  as I begin digging into the original languages, I begin to
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  discover that in fact the word itself is more powerful than I
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  could have imagined. So in the English, for instance,
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  I have to say that in some cases a lot is lost.
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  Now, it doesn't mean it changed the meaning overall, but on a
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  scale of like zero to 10, the English maybe throws out a three
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  or four. In either Aramaic, Greek or
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  Hebrew, it's like an 8 or a nine and or 10 even in volume.
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  And so and so we're we're starting to discover things like
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  that more and more now. Now, I realize you asked me
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  about the church, but the church is who teaches this stuff.
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  Exactly. So for instance, I was doing a
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  word study not long ago and I realized that there was three
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  different levels of power in relationship to, you know, to
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  our our intimacy with the Lord. And one of them is Xocea, which
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  is kind of the authoritative thing.
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  You know, anybody. I don't care whether your
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  Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal, you have the authority to cast
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  out a devil in Jesus name. Well, but then there's the
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  doonamos, depending on how it comes from the word.
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  You know what we get the word dynamite from?
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  Well, that comes after the baptism in the holy with the
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  Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, which I'm sorry, but
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  the two do go together because you're not going to be speaking
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  in heavenly code if you don't have the tongue.
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  So you know, some people really just need to get over that whole
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  thing and but it's it's a dynamic for today and and and
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  the Holy Spirit gets actively involved and that's where
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  tremendous levels of his presence can flow.
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  But in the English language, in several verses, it'll say it'll
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  say power and then it'll say power again.
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  But they're not the same word. There's a third level of power.
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  Kratos, I believe it's spelled Kratos.
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  That's resurrection power. That's the power that raised
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  Jesus from the dead. And that's the power that we're
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  supposed to be walking in today. So all three combined.
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  Well, everybody's teaching the 1st 2:00, but you know, OK,
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  we're moving on from maybe a 9 Volt battery to 110.
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  Now we're moving into 440 and it seems like there's not enough
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  electricians around. Wow, okay.
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  So that brings with it a whole thing.
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  So, so those are the things that that I'm noticing in the
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  interaction between the the church and you know so there's
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  like positives. At the same time that there are
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  negatives especially in some of the smaller communities.
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  I watched some of my family and Facebook.
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  I'm so excited to see a lot of my nieces and nephews mainly
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  because of the testimony of my dad who passed away fairly
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  recently. But he was just a real pillar up
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  in southeastern Iowa in in the community and he a prayer pillar
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  especially. So many of them are getting
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  saved. They're in their their church
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  and Saturday night they're doing this.
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  They're running all over. So, So especially in the smaller
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  communities, wonderful things still happen, are happening or
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  going to happen. But the one thing that I'm
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  yearning for is that book of Daniel which is already being
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  opened, that part where the Lord said seal it up until the end.
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  It is being opened and I think we need to be able to expand and
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  stretch in order to walk in that kind of stuff.
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  And if I'm seeing some struggles today, Rod, it's because people
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  are trying to hang on to what they're familiar with instead of
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  letting God expand them more into the presence and image of
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  his son, which is beyond dynamic.
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  It becomes electrifying. And but that also takes, that
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  also takes a level of dedication that many people are just too
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  busy with life's things to to be able to give.
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  Oh my gosh. Wow.
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  I'm excited just in this first. First, couple questions.
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  I'm excited because your responses are spot on them,
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  definitely in agreement with what you're saying and it great
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  observation with what you've seen over the last 50 years
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  within Christianity. I think you really hit the nail
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  on the head. You know, there's some basic,
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  like Level 1 duties that we have, like bearing each other's
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  burdens and so fulfilling the law, right?
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  Love being this greatest commandment.
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  And we do see a lot of like kind of tribe and clickiness within
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  Christianity and then the word study stuff, man, that is so
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  important because one thing, Doc, is recently, you know, this
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  Mandela Effect in the Bible is kind of a topic of conversation
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  among some people. And I did cover an episode with
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  a gentleman who wrote a book about it.
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  And I and I was in disagreement to an extent.
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  I understood some things were very provocative to say the
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  least. But with the language, you know,
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  we say the word, oh, I love these shoes, right?
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  Oh, I love this new song. It's like we've stolen the
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  actual essence and the meaning of these words.
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  So our our local candence, our slang, our language has been
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  shifted and altered so much and it's more important now than
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  ever to jump in to the word studies using a septuagin A
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  concordinates. I mean just really slowing down
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  and understanding what was said. Well, can I get?
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  Can I give you an example on that?
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  Using the word love before you get too far in?
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  Because then I'll forget, you know, as part of being 70s.
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  So I understand, yes. But but for instance, OK, the
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  scripture that tells us that perfect love casts out all fear.
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  OK, so I mean, there's whole doctrines built around stuff
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  like that, right? Well, if you look it up in the
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  original, what it really means is, is that when your love
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  becomes mature, you will no longer walk in fear, but you'll
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  be walking. In the glory and in the presence
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  and the confidence of the Savior.
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  Now when you take it for what it really says, it gives room in
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  there. Not because we don't want to be
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  afraid, ever. That's not you know, you know,
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  you know. And then perfect love casts out
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  all fear, You know, that kind of thing.
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  Well, that's true. But but as we move on, we need
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  to realize that hey okay, let's say somebody's been saved for 15
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  years and all the sudden. They face something they've
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  never faced before. Don't go around beating yourself
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  just because you didn't behave perfectly.
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  You know, you don't, you know, I mean, hopefully you didn't do
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  anything that's going to end you up in jail.
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  But you understand what I'm saying?
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  I mean it's it's like sometimes, you know, by the standard that
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  the perfect church people said maybe you were only 80% in shame
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  on you because you weren't 95 like the rest of them.
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  Okay. You see, you see what I'm
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  saying? So, so there's if you look at it
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  in the original language, it doesn't change that Perfect love
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  does cast out all fear. But what it does is it gives
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  room for growth. And that's the contextual part
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  of it, that somehow English just doesn't carry a lot of the time.
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  And and so, you know, that's just to your point.
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  Yeah. And what's really going on with
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  this English language. I mean, I been doing some deep
• 23:28
  dives into it with the Mandela Effect examples that were
• 23:32
  portrayed to me and there's there's something wrong with it.
• 23:37
  I haven't quite pinpointed it. I don't want to speak from a
• 23:41
  place of like I have resources and and evidence that can hint
• 23:45
  towards my conjecture. But you're so spot on and this
• 23:50
  is what real students of the Bible will do, because there's
• 23:53
  there's no great victory and winning over a bunch of people
• 23:58
  to this Mandela Effect idea of the Bible changing that aren't
• 24:02
  actually studying and have a personal relationship with
• 24:04
  Christ. All you're doing is sweeping up
• 24:06
  people from the floor that that don't have a care, right.
• 24:09
  They're not hiding the word in their heart.
• 24:11
  You know that they might not sin against God right there.
• 24:15
  There's no studying to show themselves well approved and
• 24:17
  with fear and trembling working out their salvation.
• 24:20
  And the people I'm looking for are the people who are really
• 24:24
  going, hold on, let's slow down, let's look at this.
• 24:27
  Let's make sure we have the big picture here.
• 24:28
  So a great example. I mean, yeah, you build on that
• 24:32
  point. I couldn't add anything to it,
• 24:34
  but I definitely would like to dive deeper into that in the
• 24:41
  future. Just word study.
• 24:45
  I have some things in mind. The importance of it or just
• 24:48
  it's imperative it's yeah. I mean, just let me know, but I
• 24:51
  can address the Mandela Effect a little bit.
• 24:54
  I don't know if it's too early in the broadcast.
• 24:56
  So no, it's it's not too early at all.
• 24:58
  I think the reason I brought it up is because just to make a
• 25:01
  real quick point and then I'd like you to address the Mandela
• 25:04
  Effect from your perspective and show us what what you're seeing,
• 25:07
  what's going on here. But a lot of the verses that are
• 25:10
  being used are to express this Mandela Effect change or King
• 25:14
  James only. And one of the things that was
• 25:17
  an offput for me Doc, is when I went to the concordinates and
• 25:21
  started to look at root words. I was told, Oh no, you can't do
• 25:24
  that. The Mandela Effect is based on
• 25:27
  this memory reaction. If one of the verses was like,
• 25:30
  judge, not blank, you be judged. And I just remembered saying,
• 25:34
  lest you be judged, And then the guns, like that's not anywhere
• 25:37
  in the Bible that doesn't exist. It's the Mandela Effect.
• 25:40
  The world is ending. Reptilians are taking over
• 25:42
  everything, right? And it's like, Oh my gosh, hold
• 25:43
  on, slow down. If that's culturally relevant
• 25:46
  here in the West. And there's doctrines that have
• 25:48
  exploded in within social media and there's, you know, relevant
• 25:53
  teachings that people get that stuff seeded into the
• 25:55
  subconscious. And let's just be honest, most
• 25:58
  of us aren't diving into the word for ourselves.
• 26:00
  A lot of the past history, at least in my short time walking
• 26:05
  within, quote UN quote Christianity or just following
• 26:08
  after the Lord and being aware of all these little tribes of
• 26:11
  Christian denominations, it's really easy just to get caught
• 26:15
  up into one man standing in front of the room, you know,
• 26:19
  here, take my parable, take what I'm saying, you might read a
• 26:22
  couple verses in that congregation and then move on.
• 26:24
  But there's something terribly wrong with that.
• 26:27
  So I'm I'm very interested to hear what your perspective is on
• 26:30
  this. Well, I mean, first of all, I'm
• 26:33
  not saying there's not a Mandela Effect because I remember the
• 26:36
  whole lion and the lamb thing versus the wolf and the lamb and
• 26:39
  it's like okay. So I even went upstairs, and
• 26:42
  this has been several years ago, because I had a Bible that I
• 26:44
  hadn't opened in probably 30 years and.
• 26:47
  And I thought, okay, now how did that get changed in there?
• 26:49
  Even though it's been sitting here for 30 years, So, you know,
• 26:53
  so that's an interesting phenomenon, just like the Flat
• 26:56
  Earth thing, Okay, you know, and I won't even go into that.
• 26:59
  I don't really care if the if we're sitting on a pinhead
• 27:01
  somewhere, we're still doing what we're doing.
• 27:04
  You know it's so, but the whole, the whole thing is what the
• 27:09
  enemies camp is doing is trying to keep us dumbed down now.
• 27:16
  You say, well how does that relate to the the the Mandela
• 27:19
  Effect? Well, because some people and
• 27:22
  not a law, but some people will just, you know, throw themselves
• 27:25
  into it and you know, trying to become, you know, so prove that
• 27:29
  the earth is flat and you know, prove that you know the Mandela
• 27:32
  effect is out there and and we all know what it's talking about
• 27:35
  that, you know, first he was dead and now he's not and that,
• 27:38
  you know, it's this word and then now it says this.
• 27:41
  But think about it if somehow in that process.
• 27:46
  We can be kept from understanding what true sonship
• 27:50
  is and how closely created because of the second atom that
• 27:56
  we are to the Son of God and Son of man because of the new birth
• 28:00
  from above. If they can keep us from
• 28:04
  operating in what the Bible really says about what that
• 28:08
  process is to where we walk into fullness of sonship.
• 28:14
  Then they're not going to have anybody that's really going to
• 28:17
  be any threat to what they're doing.
• 28:20
  Wow. Yeah, OK, who am I Speaking of?
• 28:24
  Well, hopefully your cast go all over the place.
• 28:27
  But they're going to be listened to probably by government
• 28:30
  officials, by people that are Satanists and all over.
• 28:34
  And it's like, OK, here's my word to you all, we're not all
• 28:39
  stupid out here. I've been known for almost my
• 28:44
  full 50 years as a believer that you're out there, you're trying
• 28:46
  to control things. But guess what?
• 28:48
  God is unveiling the sons of God.
• 28:53
  We are going to be operating at levels of authority and power
• 28:58
  and energy and frequencies that you've never seen before.
• 29:04
  Does it matter how much you get a I involved?
• 29:08
  You've never seen this before? We're rising up in the power and
• 29:13
  image of the Son of God, and just because you've maybe
• 29:17
  figured out a way to tweak the time continuum a little bit, you
• 29:23
  haven't seen anything about what's getting ready to come.
• 29:27
  It's like Bobby Boucher, played by Adam Sandler, he said.
• 29:32
  I'm getting ready to open up a can of blank blank on.
• 29:39
  OK. Wow.
• 29:40
  And and so, and So what the enemies camp wants us to do,
• 29:46
  using the Bobby Boucher analogy, is to even if we soup up our
• 29:52
  lawnmower, they still want us riding around on a lawnmower and
• 29:56
  not a vehicle. OK, so, So that's what most of
• 30:03
  these things are. They're distractions, yeah.
• 30:07
  Okay. Then somebody else will come up
• 30:09
  and say, well, the words really wrong in so many areas.
• 30:12
  No, it's not wrong. It's been dumbed down.
• 30:23
  Can we be adults and realize that when I go into certain
• 30:28
  circles, which is dangerous for them, not for me, I'll have
• 30:34
  people come up to me and say brother.
• 30:36
  Why don't you use the same Bible that Paul used?
• 30:40
  Oh, what is that, The 16 and 11 King James.
• 30:43
  Yes, Sir. That's the one that Paul used.
• 30:45
  I said. But it was written in 1611 and
• 30:48
  Paul was around in the 1st century.
• 30:51
  Well, you know what I mean. Well, OK, well, none of them are
• 30:56
  as accurate as they should be because again, we lose the
• 31:00
  meanings. We lose.
• 31:02
  Let me give let me give you a a a real quick illustration.
• 31:06
  Because we don't want to get down too many rabbit holes here,
• 31:08
  but my grandmother and grandfather and my dad's side
• 31:11
  were what most people would recognize from the former
• 31:16
  Yugoslavia. Although when they came to the
• 31:18
  United States in the early nine 1900s, it was actually part.
• 31:22
  The part they came from, even though they were Serbian people,
• 31:25
  came from a part of what is now modern day Croatia.
• 31:29
  But it was part of the Austrohungarian Empire and when
• 31:33
  I was around and I spent a lot of time with them.
• 31:36
  And when we would myself or my cousin, who is real close to my
• 31:42
  age, we'd do something silly. She'd she'd go around and she'd
• 31:46
  make this statement. She'd say Tolda, Tolda Banista.
• 31:50
  Well, I always took that to me and you guys are just being
• 31:53
  crazy. Why are you acting crazy?
• 31:56
  Well, finally, several years after she passed, I'm sitting
• 32:00
  around talking with my my Aunt Zona and I said Aunt Zona, what
• 32:05
  was this term? That grandma used to use when
• 32:09
  she said we're acting silly and crazy and and and I told her
• 32:12
  what it was and because I said I've been studying the the
• 32:16
  Serbocroatian language and I can't find it anywhere, she
• 32:20
  said, Oh well, in the village they were from there was a man
• 32:25
  who would be considered slow or partially retarded and he would
• 32:30
  just do silly things and his name was Tode Bennister.
• 32:35
  And so here my whole life I thought that saying you're crazy
• 32:42
  in the head, which actually in that language is Lou de Glava
• 32:46
  crazy head. And so when I when I found that
• 32:50
  out, I said where did this come from?
• 32:52
  Well, my whole life I'm thinking that crazy in the head is told
• 32:56
  the benest and it was a guy's name.
• 32:59
  So. So there's a lot of that kind of
• 33:02
  stuff that we miss because. We weren't walking those roads.
• 33:06
  We didn't understand the customs.
• 33:09
  But let me tell you something. They also knew back in the times
• 33:12
  of Christ, they also knew the Book of Enoch very well.
• 33:16
  They knew about the pantheon of gods and what they were really
• 33:19
  doing instead of what our scientists today say they did.
• 33:23
  And so, so there's a, you know, if we want to open up a whole
• 33:27
  can of worms, we can just go on and on and on and on.
• 33:30
  But the bottom line is, is that most of those things?
• 33:34
  Even if they have validity. So I'm not going to really
• 33:37
  comment on that part much. One way or another are all
• 33:41
  distractions. Because if we come up and
• 33:43
  realize who we are as sons and daughters of the living king,
• 33:48
  and we start doing the inner work that it takes to get the
• 33:51
  filters and static out of the way in, the Lord of Glory comes
• 33:54
  in and starts flowing through us, it's going to shake the
• 33:58
  world up. Exactly.
• 34:00
  Wow, that is powerful. And hey, we overcome by the
• 34:04
  blood of the Lamb and our testimony.
• 34:06
  So if we're focused on anything else other than our testimony,
• 34:09
  what God is doing in our lives, how he's working it out, how
• 34:12
  we've repented, we're being sanctified, We're coming to the
• 34:15
  throne of grace boldly in time of need.
• 34:18
  If if our focus is not on that, we're we're subtracted out with
• 34:23
  all these other conspiracies and ideas.
• 34:25
  And there's a time and a place to talk about this stuff.
• 34:28
  I mean obviously here on this show, wide spectrum of different
• 34:31
  things that that I've covered over the last couple years,
• 34:33
  which is important. But always this is one of the
• 34:36
  things I'm always trying to take this point where it's like I
• 34:40
  want to express God's glory, his magnificence, who he is.
• 34:45
  Not that I have the greatest revelation of that, but but I
• 34:48
  have that tugging, that feeling on the inside.
• 34:51
  He's so much bigger and so much more powerful than any of us
• 34:55
  could imagine. And like LA Marzouli would say,
• 34:59
  this is a cosmic chess match and we can't get stuck in our own
• 35:02
  little bubble all the time. So great answers there, Doc.
• 35:06
  That's phenomenal. Well, hey, I got to be honest
• 35:09
  with you. Nobody loves Ancient Aliens more
• 35:12
  than me and UFO stories. I mean, I was no, I go back to
• 35:16
  the days when Neville Brand was in some show in the 50s where
• 35:21
  you could see the little spaceships on a string and.
• 35:24
  You know the vampire movies where where you can see the
• 35:27
  strings on the bats as they were attacking people, you know?
• 35:30
  So I go way back with that stuff but I just happen to know who
• 35:34
  they are and where they really come from.
• 35:36
  Well and this is what's interesting is, is I did a round
• 35:39
  table discussion not too long ago with like Nate from Mufant.
• 35:43
  He's the president of preventative Measures, I believe
• 35:46
  from Mufant with in Canada And there Chuck from fire theft
• 35:49
  radio, couple other guys, Enoch, we get together and we're having
• 35:53
  this discussion and it's like just the simplicity of what the
• 35:56
  word says, right. So this is where, you know, I'll
• 35:59
  ask my next question to follow up as soon as I'm done here on
• 36:02
  angels in the Bible. Right.
• 36:04
  We have malach in the Hebrew and anglos in the Greek.
• 36:07
  And the word says that angels are they not all ministering
• 36:11
  spirits who minister to those who inherit eternity.
• 36:13
  There's fallen angels and there's angels that did not
• 36:16
  fall. And Angel is a job title.
• 36:19
  It's not a description. And this is where it's like if
• 36:22
  the church, if we were on the cutting edge, right?
• 36:24
  Like this is just an introductory reintroductory into
• 36:28
  this topic that I've been pushing for quite some time.
• 36:30
  Read your Bibles, you guys. Let's look at definitions.
• 36:33
  Let's get in tune with what the Spirit wants to equip us with so
• 36:36
  that we're able to withstand. We can do all we can to stand in
• 36:40
  these days to come. And our sonship, our positions
• 36:45
  in the Eclaisia are going to very interesting, I must say.
• 36:51
  But let me ask you this, Doc. Let's talk a little bit about
• 36:54
  that Angel and alien thing, right.
• 36:56
  Because aliens, a newer coin term to represent either an
• 37:00
  interdimensional or extraterrestrial biological,
• 37:04
  right. So let me hear you talk a little
• 37:06
  bit about this. Let's talk a little bit about
• 37:07
  angels and aliens here for a minute.
• 37:10
  So in the area, 50 ones in these different places and you know
• 37:14
  they recruit. People that are way above
• 37:17
  average intelligence to do specific things for the
• 37:21
  government or whoever it really is that does all that stuff.
• 37:23
  I mean, I don't really care one way or another about that part
• 37:26
  of it. But there's one thing that
• 37:28
  they're told that I find to be just fascinating.
• 37:32
  They they'll say something like you can talk to these whether
• 37:35
  they're Tall Grays, short Grays, medium Grays, tall Nordics.
• 37:40
  Other kind of Nordics, I mean, you know, whatever, they all are
• 37:44
  reptiles. I don't care if they're real
• 37:48
  beings that these people are seeing.
• 37:50
  They're obviously seeing something.
• 37:52
  They probably could go up if they would be allowed, they
• 37:55
  could touch that and it would have some kind of physicality.
• 37:59
  But you can talk to them about Buddha.
• 38:01
  You can talk to them about Confucius, you can talk to them
• 38:04
  about Muhammad. You can talk to them about
• 38:08
  boxing and soccer, but you can't mention the name of Jesus.
• 38:12
  Now why is that exactly? Okay, that should throw up a red
• 38:18
  flag for anybody that's got any reasoning abilities left.
• 38:22
  If there's only one name that you can't mention, that's a
• 38:25
  problem. And it's a problem for them
• 38:28
  because they're illegals. Most of those created beings are
• 38:35
  were were. Experiments in Science project
• 38:40
  by the Enemies camp. Even if man is only here 6000
• 38:45
  years, did the enemy fall 6001 years ago?
• 38:49
  It could have been in Earth type years 20 billion years ago for
• 38:53
  all we know. We don't know when that was.
• 38:57
  So he's been out doing nefarious things for a long time.
• 39:00
  And you say, well why didn't the God of creation stop him?
• 39:03
  Well, because God had a plan. He designed everything and
• 39:12
  completed it to a certain level because in part of that design
• 39:17
  he wanted a family group that would be made in his image who
• 39:24
  would go around and complete that design throughout all the
• 39:28
  verses, multiverses, realms, dimensions, whatever.
• 39:36
  Did he plan on the enemy and his camp falling?
• 39:39
  I'm sure that he saw it coming because he sees the the end from
• 39:42
  the beginning and the beginning and the end, but I'm sure that
• 39:45
  he would rather that it didn't happen.
• 39:48
  But part of what mankind is supposed to do is undo, not just
• 39:52
  on earth but everywhere, all the damage and chaos that Satan and
• 39:58
  his group brought into created order.
• 40:02
  We are the ones true humans. 100% Humans are the ones that
• 40:09
  have a target on their back because we have the ability rod
• 40:17
  to carry the full image of the Son of Man in us.
• 40:23
  We are designed that way. Now the the the Adam's original
• 40:29
  creation was made with a corrupted seed or he wouldn't
• 40:32
  have been able to fall. But when Jesus rose from the
• 40:37
  dead, he became the pure incorruptible seed.
• 40:42
  And it is according to that image that the new birth, the
• 40:46
  birth from above of water and spirit has been enabled.
• 40:52
  Which means that if we will walk in the fullness of that Jesus
• 40:57
  himself. Actually, the best way I could
• 41:02
  say is takes a layer of himself, brings his throne with him, and
• 41:07
  sets it up right smack dab in the middle of our soul, in full
• 41:11
  glory and authority. And if we'll do the work like
• 41:15
  you said, working out the salvation with fear and
• 41:17
  trembling, that's not to stay saved.
• 41:20
  That's so that we walk into full sonship because we got to get
• 41:23
  rid of the filters and static once.
• 41:26
  Once we enable that process, then with his fullness he is
• 41:33
  able to begin and thank God it's gradually.
• 41:37
  But to to move glory through our soul, Well, through our spirit,
• 41:43
  then our soul and then through our body.
• 41:45
  To change everything, to create photon shifts, to do all kinds
• 41:50
  of things. And just to show you the level
• 41:53
  of power, we're all familiar with the the, the biblical
• 41:58
  happening that we call a story of Joshua and the children of
• 42:02
  Israel marching around the walls of Jericho.
• 42:05
  We know that they did it once each day for six days and then
• 42:09
  seven times on the 7th day. And then the priest flew the
• 42:12
  trump and the walls fell down. Well, I was talking to the Lord
• 42:16
  about that one day, and I'm sorry if I offend some people,
• 42:20
  that he actually answers me. And because I've learned to hear
• 42:23
  his inner voice very clearly, I can actually personally tell the
• 42:26
  difference between the voice of the Father, the Son and the Holy
• 42:29
  Spirit. So you know, if people are
• 42:31
  unhappy with that, I'm really, really sorry.
• 42:33
  But I can't. So I'm talking to the father and
• 42:36
  he said, son, I said, yes, Sir. He said, do you think when they
• 42:41
  blew the trumpets that and sound of the shofars or whatever they
• 42:47
  were, that the walls just fell flat down?
• 42:50
  I said, well, that's kind of what the story indicates.
• 42:52
  He said, well, let me tell you something.
• 42:54
  He said it and he said this kind of a little tongue in cheek, but
• 42:58
  it's there's great truth in it. He said, Can you imagine having
• 43:02
  several million Jewish people being completely quiet, marching
• 43:07
  around the whole city? And I said, okay.
• 43:11
  Well then I realized he was referring to the fact that a lot
• 43:14
  of the Jewish folks like to talk.
• 43:16
  Well, a lot of people do, but I think that was the illusion, so
• 43:19
  I kind of got a little chuckle out of that, he said.
• 43:22
  But let me tell you what was really going on.
• 43:24
  He said their level of obedience was so great that frequencies by
• 43:30
  my spirit were going into the ground.
• 43:32
  And then when those trumpets blew, it set up a massive phone
• 43:37
  photon shift and caused an earthquake through through
• 43:40
  resonant frequency, he said. Had they not been obedient to
• 43:45
  walk around and impart those frequencies in the ground, sure,
• 43:48
  I could have done an earthquake, but I I involved them.
• 43:51
  I let them be part of the process.
• 43:54
  Now how cool is that? Yeah, that's that's amazing.
• 44:01
  So, so, so where do the aliens come from?
• 44:04
  I do. I do believe that that that
• 44:07
  there are. Personally, this is my personal
• 44:10
  belief based on the research that I've done.
• 44:13
  I do believe that most of the physicalities of what we see are
• 44:19
  individuals that are hybrids of some sort with the express
• 44:25
  purpose of replacing humanity, because we're the ones that can
• 44:28
  bear God's image and they can't. Yeah, I I would say I'm on that
• 44:34
  same track. You know, there there's the term
• 44:38
  meat suits I've heard. But obviously we we're dealing
• 44:41
  with spiritual entities and the frequency and vibration
• 44:45
  conversation, man, that is, yeah, we we have, we have quite
• 44:50
  some time over the next couple appearances where I definitely
• 44:54
  want to deep dive into that. But let let me just fire my next
• 44:58
  question here, Okay. All right.
• 45:02
  So I want actually I want to get into your book a little bit.
• 45:06
  You know this voice analysis, voice print technology, and it's
• 45:10
  this valuable tool for assessing the human experience on multiple
• 45:14
  different levels. It's amazing.
• 45:17
  It's amazing. Give us an overview about your
• 45:20
  book. Let's dive into the voice
• 45:22
  analysis, technology, what you're doing with the health and
• 45:27
  even the spiritual assessments there.
• 45:29
  Let's get familiarized with that Okay.
• 45:31
  So if we kind of pick up on, you know, the the little story about
• 45:36
  myself earlier, one of the what I did is I became proficient in
• 45:41
  a technique called contact reflex analysis, which in most
• 45:46
  cases is used by chiropractors. And they match the nutrition up
• 45:51
  with what they find when they're testing people through a they
• 45:55
  use we use the Meridian system of the body, not just applied
• 45:59
  kinesiology, which is similar but different.
• 46:02
  We use the meridians and if there's a hot spot in a
• 46:04
  particular area, we're able to trace back through the systems
• 46:07
  and see you know, somebody complaints, let's say their calf
• 46:10
  is hurting and we trace through the systems of the body and we
• 46:13
  find out that they've got a stone caught in their bile duct
• 46:16
  of their liver. And so you know we can trace
• 46:19
  through all that kind of stuff and but that's somebody being in
• 46:22
  front of me. So I got I've been doing about
• 46:27
  10 years and and I and I believe it had reached a quite a level
• 46:31
  of proficiency because unlike the chiropractors that are still
• 46:34
  focusing on building their particular practices which they
• 46:38
  should do with adjustments and different you know physiotherapy
• 46:42
  or whatever that they do they do All I had was the nutritional
• 46:47
  part. So one of my sons and I, we went
• 46:50
  to just health food store after health food store and we test
• 46:54
  and we took notes and we rated different products and how they
• 46:57
  would work against this problem and that problem, this problem.
• 47:00
  So I got even better and more knowledgeable than the majority
• 47:03
  of the people that would know this technique.
• 47:06
  Not everyone, but probably 8090% just because I was doing the
• 47:11
  nutritional part. So I went to a conference that
• 47:14
  was put on by Doctor Versenal in Atlanta some years ago and this
• 47:22
  lady comes up to me and just out of the blue and she looks at me
• 47:25
  and because Doctor Versenthal had asked me to open the the
• 47:29
  session and because in those days they used VCR tapes.
• 47:34
  Remember the good old VCR tapes? Yes, I do okay.
• 47:39
  And so she comes up at our first break and she said, you know,
• 47:44
  you can hear people's voices and then you can be tested in their
• 47:48
  place. I said, oh, really?
• 47:52
  I said, I'm going to test that out.
• 47:53
  Well, a few weeks later, the church group had got about 50
• 47:57
  people together that all wanted evaluations, and I had their
• 48:03
  names and phone numbers. So I thought, well, what would
• 48:05
  it hurt me? Because I have my sheets printed
• 48:07
  out, if I just print 50 more and I call each one of them, maybe
• 48:13
  find out a little bit about what they're wanting to work on.
• 48:17
  And I got a hold of all 50. Did the tests before I went,
• 48:22
  left them at home, went there, did them all brought their
• 48:27
  paperwork back and compared them and they were literally 100% the
• 48:30
  same and and so I knew then at that point that it worked.
• 48:41
  What I didn't know and I'll get into the sonship thing because
• 48:45
  you'll see how it kind of fits into the storyline here in a
• 48:49
  minute is when you have that voice print it can also tell you
• 49:00
  other information So it's not completely unlike maybe taking a
• 49:06
  lie detector test with one big difference.
• 49:10
  There are those that can fool maybe the the person that's
• 49:15
  administering the lie detector test, if they're really well
• 49:18
  trained. With this, it doesn't matter if
• 49:22
  you change your voice, you speak high, you speak low.
• 49:25
  As long as you don't use one of those voice changing modulators,
• 49:30
  I can, it's not going to do anything to change the way the
• 49:33
  test is going to come out. The test has nothing to do with
• 49:37
  whether I like the person or not, whether I think they have
• 49:40
  this or that. It's pure frequency science,
• 49:45
  Okay. And I think we've all matured
• 49:48
  enough now that compared to the, you know, the 90s when
• 49:53
  everything was called New Age, that we don't need to call that
• 49:56
  New age anymore because science has grown up a little bit.
• 50:01
  And it's kind of funny to me too because a lot of the folks
• 50:04
  that'll name something New Age, I've gotten to the point now
• 50:07
  where I say, OK, so you're a New Age expert.
• 50:09
  Let me tell what are your credentials in the new age?
• 50:11
  Well, I just know that, you know, if it's something we can't
• 50:15
  see, it's got to be New Age. I said so, OK, I I see where
• 50:18
  you're coming from next. So I mean, sorry, I just don't
• 50:22
  have time for that that anymore. You know, I've, I've been
• 50:25
  through all of that and and I don't have to explain this to
• 50:28
  anybody that way. OK so so it turns out that so
• 50:33
  I'm doing the nutritional things well about four years ago, which
• 50:39
  would have been 2019, my wife and I were it was February and
• 50:44
  her middle son who worked for one of the subsidiaries of
• 50:50
  Verizon Wireless just got a promotion to where he was going
• 50:56
  to become part over owner of a franchise in the Indianapolis IN
• 51:01
  area. And they moved, they only lived
• 51:03
  three houses down from us. And so he, he left very quickly
• 51:08
  and went up there. And then his family followed in
• 51:10
  May and we were sitting around then and we looked at each
• 51:13
  other. We're sitting on our front porch
• 51:14
  and the weather was finally getting nice up in Louisville
• 51:17
  and said we don't have any reason to stay here anymore.
• 51:20
  Where should we move? So we chose the Gulf Shores of
• 51:24
  Alabama because we figured that if we got a place down here that
• 51:28
  everybody would come see us. And that has turned out to be
• 51:31
  true. So then we moved down here in
• 51:36
  the end of July of 2019 and of course, you know, I'm already
• 51:41
  well into my 60s and I'm thinking, oh man, there's so
• 51:43
  many cool golf courses around. And and Brother John
• 51:48
  Kilpatrick's got a church up in Daphne, AL, which is like, you
• 51:53
  know, 18 miles from where we live, takes 30 minutes to get
• 51:56
  there because it's kind of country, roadish type, that
• 51:59
  stuff. But he's the guy that was the
• 52:01
  head pastor of the Pensacola revival in the 90s, for those
• 52:05
  people who remember that. And so I thought, man, life's
• 52:09
  going to be good. Play golf, mow my lawn, Maybe a
• 52:12
  family members need a little bit of help.
• 52:15
  Well, one of the first Sundays we get there, they're having one
• 52:18
  of those old timey services that I just love, where the glory is
• 52:22
  just everywhere and the power of God is everywhere.
• 52:26
  And so he starts praying for people and my wife says, hey,
• 52:28
  you've never had brother John pray for you, see if, see if he
• 52:30
  won't come up to you. Well, there's people just
• 52:33
  mobbing him and I thought, yeah, right, I'm going to have any
• 52:35
  chance of getting close. He walks right up to me.
• 52:39
  Now, I'm not a small guy, I'm. I weigh about £180, but I'm a
• 52:45
  little over 6 feet tall, so he's about the same size, but he's a
• 52:49
  big guy and he's got a way bigger hand than I do.
• 52:53
  He puts his mint right on top of my head and it was like he was
• 52:56
  palm on a basketball or something, but it was so loud he
• 52:59
  pulls my ear up to his mouth. Basically it's his brother.
• 53:06
  You, you are following the will of the Lord.
• 53:08
  It was God that told you to move down to this area.
• 53:11
  But here's what he's also saying to you.
• 53:14
  You thought you were going to retire, The Lord says.
• 53:18
  You're going to be busier now and have more revelation and
• 53:21
  more insight into things than you've ever had in your entire
• 53:24
  life. All in this season.
• 53:27
  And then, thankfully, I was close to some chairs because I
• 53:29
  don't usually get slain in the Spirit.
• 53:31
  And if people don't know what that term means, it means you
• 53:33
  fall down because the power of God's so heavy you can't stand
• 53:36
  up. So I just kind of politely sat
• 53:39
  down because usually I don't get slain in the spirit and I'm
• 53:43
  contemplating it and then I make my way back to and because I got
• 53:47
  to tell this whole story because it's really hilarious, you know.
• 53:51
  So I'm thinking, oh man, am I ever going to go down, you know,
• 53:54
  I mean, because. But I felt the power.
• 53:55
  It was like different. It was like this heavy Kebode
• 54:00
  type thing. But I didn't go down.
• 54:02
  So my wife and I we make our way out to the car and we decide to
• 54:05
  eat lunch a little bit down the road and so it had a gravel
• 54:10
  driveway and and so I dropped her off at the door and I pull
• 54:13
  over and find a parking spot and I get out and I collapse face
• 54:17
  down into the ground onto the gravel.
• 54:20
  The power of God hit me and I laid there for about 5 minutes
• 54:23
  until I could finally get myself back up.
• 54:26
  There wasn't anything wrong with me.
• 54:27
  My heart didn't stop. The power of God decides to hit
• 54:30
  me in a parking lot and put me flat on my face just to show me
• 54:35
  who he really was. And I said okay Lord, I get the
• 54:38
  message. I see what you're saying.
• 54:39
  Yes, I'm going to answer this. So.
• 54:42
  So that's the story of how all of the sudden I said okay, So
• 54:47
  what do we do? Well, the next step was, is that
• 54:51
  my wife who is got a way, way better way with words than I
• 54:55
  ever will. And she's a tremendous writer as
• 54:57
  well. And she had said something on
• 55:02
  Facebook and got banned and she wanted to sell something.
• 55:08
  She said, can I open up a Facebook account for you?
• 55:11
  Because I need to sell this. I said yeah, okay.
• 55:15
  Well, when she got unbanned, she turns the thing back over to me
• 55:18
  because it was in my name and I thought, well, I'll just start
• 55:21
  reaching out to some Christian people that I know here or
• 55:23
  there. Well, to make a very Long story
• 55:25
  short, after a few months, a lot of the folks started asking me,
• 55:30
  hey, do you still do the alternative medicine,
• 55:32
  nutritional thing? You know, whatever you call.
• 55:34
  And I said, sure, yeah, I can test you.
• 55:37
  Well, then a little more time goes by and I'm testing a few
• 55:39
  people here, a few people there. And they said, well, listen,
• 55:42
  since the voice works for our nutrition, could you come up
• 55:46
  with some kind of a sheet that tells us how we're doing with
• 55:50
  our walk as we're engaging heaven?
• 55:53
  OK. So I said, well, I'll see.
• 55:56
  And sure enough the Lord gave me.
• 55:58
  So that's the one. That one I did for you is called
• 56:00
  the spiritual assessment because because the the nutritional one
• 56:05
  is as detailed as what most functional medicine doctors are
• 56:08
  going to do, even after hundreds and hundreds of dollars of
• 56:13
  tests. But it's all your body's energy
• 56:15
  giving me the the really true baseline, even better than many
• 56:19
  of the tests that exist today. But with the spiritual
• 56:22
  assessment rod, as as you might recall, we can actually measure
• 56:26
  on a scale of zero to 10, with 10 being the best.
• 56:29
  How you how your engagement with the Lord is going, are you
• 56:33
  engaging well? Is your relationship well?
• 56:36
  How good is your body and soul in your spirit getting along?
• 56:39
  And if there's filters and static, it's going to show up in
• 56:41
  the numbers. Make sense?
• 56:43
  Yeah, absolutely. Okay.
• 56:45
  So then we go through all kinds of other things.
• 56:48
  So then because I'm testing more and more people and I'm getting
• 56:53
  pretty busy at this time and people are tickled because they
• 56:55
  know, hey, wait a minute, I need to spend a little bit more time
• 56:58
  in the river of life, the fire and the glories kind of dipped a
• 57:01
  little low. Let me see if I can do an
• 57:03
  engagement. So you know, they're using this
• 57:05
  in a proper way, not for us to compare against each other, but
• 57:09
  just so that they know when they have their special times with
• 57:11
  the Lord that they know where to go.
• 57:14
  So let's focus on the weak things and bring the whole, the
• 57:17
  whole thing up to a higher level.
• 57:20
  So I'm sitting out on my back screened in porch went and I
• 57:22
  said, Lord, I said, you know, you and I both know things have
• 57:25
  changed since the 90s and early 2000s and people are better when
• 57:29
  they're on the nutrition and most of them do pretty good.
• 57:31
  But just seems like there's stuff running in the background
• 57:34
  that I never used to know about. Now, maybe as our conversations,
• 57:40
  you don't get a little bit more in depth and one or two down the
• 57:42
  road or whatever, but one of the tests that I do is I can
• 57:46
  actually test and see if somebody, if they see better or
• 57:50
  if they know better in how they relate with the Lord.
• 57:52
  So some people just see things in the spirit realm.
• 57:54
  I'm not one of those. I'm more of a knower.
• 57:57
  So it's kind of humorous that being a knower, I'm sitting out
• 58:00
  and I'm just saying, you know, Lord, I'm just, you know, I'm
• 58:03
  just going to hear, just to talk to you, you know, And if you can
• 58:06
  tell me anything, I'd like to kind of know what's going on.
• 58:11
  Well, instead of talking to me that way, right in front of me
• 58:15
  is a six foot tall, roughly my size, flaming outline of a
• 58:21
  person and I go, okay, What is that?
• 58:26
  He said, that's your soul. I said, well, what do you have
• 58:29
  to tell me about the soul? He said, well, first of all, the
• 58:31
  soul doesn't function and hardly do anything the way that I
• 58:35
  designed it. And I'm going to reveal to you
• 58:36
  over time what that is. And we're still working on that,
• 58:40
  but we've gotten a long way. But then he said there's nine
• 58:43
  main points on your body that if you've had a very deep trauma
• 58:47
  that actually crosses the line and it's not just a
• 58:50
  disappointment, it's a real trauma.
• 58:53
  This energy is going to hide behind one of nine points on the
• 58:56
  body. And I wanted you to see that
• 58:58
  that energy attaches itself to this.
• 59:02
  This is what your soul looks like.
• 59:04
  So he gave me those nine points and I can now find if there's
• 59:09
  any trapped energies. And to me they look like they're
• 59:12
  about the size of a tennis ball behind either the thyroid, the
• 59:16
  heart, the stomach, the liver, the large intestines, the right
• 59:20
  so as which is down by your appendix, roughly speaking the
• 59:26
  lungs, the kidneys and the spleen.
• 59:28
  And then he gave me away, using the illustration of the the
• 59:33
  children of Israel going around the walls of Jericho on how to
• 59:36
  use angelic help to get rid of those.
• 59:40
  So I'm going, OK, that's really cool.
• 59:45
  Well, then I started getting connected with several groups
• 59:51
  that do deliverance and inner healing.
• 59:54
  And and you know, because obviously it makes sense that
• 59:57
  over time the circle gets a little bit wider and wider
• 59:59
  because you're running into more people and hopefully if people
• 1:00:02
  are satisfied, they're going to tell their friends.
• 1:00:04
  And it takes time, but it builds.
• 1:00:07
  Well, the people started asking me, okay, you can do nutritional
• 1:00:11
  stuff with person specific accuracy.
• 1:00:14
  You can do that spiritual assessment.
• 1:00:17
  You can find out if there's trapped energy in the soul.
• 1:00:19
  Well, what about other things? I said what do you mean?
• 1:00:22
  Well, when we do Deliverance, we need to know things like is
• 1:00:27
  there a bad timeline attached to somebody?
• 1:00:31
  It is part of their being fractured or split in any way.
• 1:00:36
  Are there regions of captivity? Are there soul ties?
• 1:00:40
  On and on this thing goes hidden nuptials, which is like a
• 1:00:43
  marriage contract, say to make the Masonic order or slavery for
• 1:00:49
  some of our folks that were either indentured servants or
• 1:00:53
  slaves at some point. And on and on it goes.
• 1:00:58
  Well sure enough I found out I could test for all of that.
• 1:01:03
  So I've got this group of people and I'm hearing common
• 1:01:08
  discussions across the board because and I don't really want
• 1:01:11
  to mention any names, but there's a lot of really
• 1:01:13
  wonderful ministries out there that are writing great helpful
• 1:01:17
  books and workbooks for people. So you know, you know, I I
• 1:01:22
  highly, I could highly recommend, but I'm I'm not going
• 1:01:25
  to mention any names because when you start doing that, then
• 1:01:27
  you're going to leave somebody who's really good out and then
• 1:01:29
  they get mad at you, you know, so you know how that goes.
• 1:01:33
  So, so when I look across the scope of YouTube and and the
• 1:01:39
  what's it Patreon and you know all the different ones and all
• 1:01:43
  these different people that are ministering and you know what's
• 1:01:46
  available on Amazon Kindle and all this.
• 1:01:48
  One thing I didn't really see was a book that and and I'm
• 1:01:54
  saying this tongue in cheek so if somebody's just tuning in
• 1:01:57
  this is I'm going to just set you up.
• 1:01:59
  This is kind of a joke about what I'm going to say here in a
• 1:02:02
  minute. But basically I saw that there
• 1:02:05
  was a need for a book that would be kind of like Sonship for
• 1:02:08
  Dummies, of which I included myself into that Okay.
• 1:02:13
  So I started seeking the Lord because again, a lot of my
• 1:02:17
  clients were saying, well, you know, I'm doing good here, but
• 1:02:20
  I'm a little light here. I realized, Rod, that a lot of
• 1:02:24
  people, especially if they were they, they just had, were so
• 1:02:28
  hungry for God and they were coming out of the Baptist
• 1:02:30
  movement or the Methodist movement or Lutherans.
• 1:02:34
  They didn't have anywhere to go to give them the verbiage and
• 1:02:37
  the anchors to even understand what we were doing.
• 1:02:41
  Because, you know, they're hearing people like us go, okay,
• 1:02:44
  did you land your scroll and did you do this and did you do that?
• 1:02:47
  And it's like a different language to them.
• 1:02:50
  So I wrote the book Moving Towards Sonship, which by the
• 1:02:53
  way is available not on Kindle but just like Amazon.
• 1:02:56
  When you order like a car tire or something like that, you can
• 1:03:00
  you can write in Moving Towards Sonship by Doctor Robert Rodich
• 1:03:03
  and it'll come up. I think it's 25 bucks or
• 1:03:05
  something, but it's got a nice workbook in the back too.
• 1:03:07
  So. But anyway, so the the Lord just
• 1:03:10
  started giving me these downloads.
• 1:03:13
  And finally one day I got them all out and I said, well, what
• 1:03:17
  am I going to do with these? And when I laid them together,
• 1:03:19
  they were like a manuscript. So I submitted them to a good
• 1:03:24
  friend of mine, Doctor Ron Horner.
• 1:03:26
  And he said, Oh my gosh, man, this is a book.
• 1:03:29
  You just need to sit down and put it together.
• 1:03:31
  So I did, and that became the book moving towards Sonship.
• 1:03:34
  So that is literally the entire story of how a guy that was a
• 1:03:41
  pastor for over 30 years with the Assemblies of God and if you
• 1:03:46
  know about the assemblies, even a regional presbyter and who
• 1:03:51
  needed a way to make a living, who moved into Wellness to help
• 1:03:57
  people out, who for some reason weren't being healed, which it
• 1:04:00
  did help him out. And then the Lord said that same
• 1:04:04
  technique that you learn can do all this other stuff.
• 1:04:07
  And then now, understanding all of those principles, he's really
• 1:04:12
  cracking the nut of Daniel open to us.
• 1:04:16
  So we're understanding how the great inner workings of
• 1:04:20
  relationship work, so that the level of power that is going to
• 1:04:23
  be released on planet Earth is just going to be beyond belief,
• 1:04:27
  even though we all think the Rapture might happen day after
• 1:04:29
  tomorrow. I am occupying right.
• 1:04:33
  We're called to occupy Exactly. And what you're sharing is.
• 1:04:39
  Very important. And for the audience, it will
• 1:04:42
  make sense as time goes on. So let me follow up with a
• 1:04:47
  couple questions here. Okay.
• 1:04:50
  So I'd like to start with this one.
• 1:04:53
  What is one of the most common things that you find among all
• 1:04:58
  of your work with people using this voice analytic technology?
• 1:05:04
  Is there kind of like a standard across the board?
• 1:05:08
  Issue that shows up, are you talking about if I did say
• 1:05:13
  something on the nutritional test because there's like you
• 1:05:16
  know, tons and tons of things that I cover, you know, is there
• 1:05:19
  maybe 1 commonality that maybe 70% of the people need to work
• 1:05:24
  on their adrenal function or something like that, is that?
• 1:05:27
  What exactly? And let me frame it like this,
• 1:05:29
  right? So even in the beginning of this
• 1:05:30
  episode, we talked a little bit about.
• 1:05:33
  The stuff that's being sprayed in the air in the foods, right,
• 1:05:36
  We know that these things are taking place and also for like
• 1:05:41
  the spiritual end of things. So what I've been developing and
• 1:05:44
  just kind of looking at, being inspired by many others and I
• 1:05:48
  won't name drop but I've been talking about this more recent
• 1:05:51
  than not, is what I'm considering to be a phase one
• 1:05:54
  level 1 satanic ritual abuse and I believe through just the
• 1:05:58
  broadband of frequency of the technology of this day and age.
• 1:06:02
  The subliminal contacting, right, Like as in the flashing
• 1:06:05
  billboards, we have the music, we have the commercials, we have
• 1:06:08
  the frequencies and vibrations going out of all of these
• 1:06:11
  different, you know, megasystems all the way down to the little
• 1:06:15
  tiny computer in your pocket. And I am believing more and more
• 1:06:20
  that people are subjected to this, what I'm considering to be
• 1:06:23
  a level 1 satanic ritual abuse. Now there's many levels.
• 1:06:26
  It goes deeper. I've had some people on the show
• 1:06:29
  and I've talked off air with many people about some very deep
• 1:06:33
  and particular dark things that happen within that realm.
• 1:06:36
  But I believe we're all subject to this in this world of
• 1:06:39
  technology. So when it comes to like the
• 1:06:41
  nutritional aspect and maybe even the spiritual, if you're
• 1:06:45
  comfortable with just kind of giving, well, these are some
• 1:06:47
  common things that show up. It can help me and the audience
• 1:06:51
  even connect some puzzle pieces like, Oh well, 5G.
• 1:06:54
  I mean, we did a symposium doc. A few months back with a bunch
• 1:06:57
  of researchers and we were reading just the list of things
• 1:07:02
  that are medically determined from these from frequencies of
• 1:07:07
  industrial equipment all the way down to cell phones, what can
• 1:07:11
  transpire to people that are sensitive to electromagnetic
• 1:07:14
  frequency. And it's like 99 problems.
• 1:07:17
  Well, Oh my gosh, one. And you only want to do 2 more
• 1:07:21
  shows. Probably be more than that.
• 1:07:26
  Well, OK. So listen, I mean, you know so
• 1:07:29
  many things just fired off on my brain.
• 1:07:31
  I hope if I can remember two or three of them that will be doing
• 1:07:34
  good. First of all, you're exactly
• 1:07:37
  right. There are all kinds of things
• 1:07:40
  and if you want to call it level one that's that's that's fine
• 1:07:44
  that we're just facing on the everyday, OK.
• 1:07:47
  So everything that we're around, Wi-Fi, 4G5G, radio signals, I
• 1:07:55
  mean who says that they can't do something with AM signals if
• 1:07:58
  they wanted to or FM signals, those those have been going
• 1:08:01
  through us our whole lives. The content that is in the TV
• 1:08:06
  shows that that we don't know if there's some kind of we used to
• 1:08:10
  call it back masking, you know in the old days, you know, you
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  know with the The Beatles record going backwards.
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  Turn me on, dead man. You know, when it was, you know,
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  that kind of thing, you know, then we found out that the movie
• 1:08:21
  theater, they were flashing drink Coke and then half the
• 1:08:23
  audience gets up. And I wasn't one of those.
• 1:08:25
  So apparently my mind didn't work that fast or something.
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  But. And then everybody gets up and
• 1:08:29
  they go drink Coke. So yeah, I mean we've been
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  subject to this for a long, long time.
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  But again, let's keep it in focus to the point of why are
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  they doing it? Because true human beings were
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  made in the image of God, can be born again in the image of God.
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  Which, by the way, that's why Jesus is the only way.
• 1:08:54
  This transaction and this transition that needs to take
• 1:08:59
  place from the old nature to the new cannot be activated through
• 1:09:02
  any other religious system, even Christianity.
• 1:09:05
  If it if you're not born again, then it's just words.
• 1:09:10
  So they're after us. So how do they dumbest down with
• 1:09:17
  frequencies, getting us to be sick all the time?
• 1:09:22
  But more than that, they try to throw our soul out of balance so
• 1:09:28
  that there can't be the free flow of God's glory in this fire
• 1:09:32
  from our spirit through our soul and then released through both
• 1:09:36
  our words and even through the very cells as they resonate out
• 1:09:40
  into the world around us. It's not a conspiracy theory to
• 1:09:50
  say that. Why is high fructose corn syrup
• 1:09:55
  and everything for Pete's sake? You know, I thought I was
• 1:09:58
  cheating when I was eating sugar cubes as a kid, you know?
• 1:10:02
  Well, that's that was real sugar.
• 1:10:04
  You know, I mean everything, even health foods.
• 1:10:07
  But here's, here's why. Even the the whole food thing
• 1:10:11
  and and the stuff that you were referring to is so important.
• 1:10:15
  A lot of people don't know this. This is pretty basic in in the
• 1:10:18
  the nutritional field. When you take a supplement it
• 1:10:23
  gets digested and assuming you have a strong enough digestive
• 1:10:26
  ability and then it moves into the large intestine, eventually
• 1:10:29
  small intestine first. Whatever's in there, and your
• 1:10:34
  food for that matter, steak, chicken, broccoli, doesn't
• 1:10:38
  matter, breaks down. When it breaks down to the level
• 1:10:43
  that it can actually tell your cells what to do, it breaks down
• 1:10:48
  to a frequency, OK, so you've got all these cells waiting to
• 1:10:55
  be told, do this, do that, respond this way, do it this
• 1:10:58
  way. So what happens if you're used
• 1:11:02
  to eating, say, corn in the 1940s and you like, you know,
• 1:11:08
  because being from Iowa originally, you know, the the
• 1:11:11
  the corn state, OK, well, it didn't bother people much.
• 1:11:18
  People used to enjoy it. Couldn't wait for August to roll
• 1:11:21
  around. Just put some salt and butter on
• 1:11:22
  that sweet corn. Oh man, I can taste it right now
• 1:11:25
  just talking about it. But the problem is, is they
• 1:11:29
  started genetically modifying everything.
• 1:11:32
  Well, when you genetically modify it and you throw bee
• 1:11:37
  venom in there just to maybe make it more resistant to a
• 1:11:40
  certain bug, when it breaks down, it doesn't break down into
• 1:11:47
  a frequency to help the body heal or respond better.
• 1:11:52
  Sometimes it's actually a bad frequency.
• 1:11:57
  And so we're facing that on every level.
• 1:12:00
  But it's again, it's because they're trying to change our
• 1:12:04
  image now. We're all aware of everything
• 1:12:11
  that's gone on the world Healthwise the last two or three
• 1:12:14
  years. There is a reason why this took
• 1:12:20
  place in the 1st place, because there is a group of individuals
• 1:12:26
  whose plan is to push Satan's end game as quickly as possible,
• 1:12:33
  which if I was Satan knowing that I was already defeated, I
• 1:12:36
  would try to put it off as long as possible.
• 1:12:38
  But you know, that's what pride and arrogance does.
• 1:12:40
  You think you're going to force the hand of somebody.
• 1:12:44
  So all of the things that were developed to help us cope with
• 1:12:47
  these health challenges actually alter who we are, with the
• 1:12:56
  eventual goal of altering us so much that we can't even respond
• 1:13:04
  to the gospel. Now, does that sound anything
• 1:13:08
  like something The Book of Revelation says those who took
• 1:13:11
  the mark of the beast, and the reference point is, is they can
• 1:13:16
  no longer be saved. Well, why can't they be saved?
• 1:13:21
  Because something was genetically modified.
• 1:13:26
  So is it possible that some of the things that are being
• 1:13:29
  inserted to people are being genetically modified with other
• 1:13:33
  than human being, things that would make some people other
• 1:13:38
  than human? Well, if you're no longer a
• 1:13:41
  human, you can't accept Christ as Lord and Savior because
• 1:13:43
  that's the one design that was made from heaven to carry his
• 1:13:47
  image. So you see where all this stuff
• 1:13:50
  is going, he said. And if somebody just tuned in
• 1:13:52
  and they said, Oh my gosh, this is like the worst conspiracy.
• 1:13:56
  No, I see it every day. I test it every day.
• 1:14:01
  I found out what boron could do within the first month of the
• 1:14:04
  recent pandemic. Nobody told me that I figured it
• 1:14:09
  out on my well, I didn't really. The Lord told me that it short
• 1:14:12
  circuits a lot of stuff. Just have to know what you're
• 1:14:15
  doing. So don't everybody go out and
• 1:14:16
  start taking handfuls of boron. But so to your greater point,
• 1:14:23
  yes, it's real, There's these things going on.
• 1:14:26
  But we always have to keep in mind that again, I'll say it
• 1:14:29
  again, I can't say it enough. It's about diminishing us so
• 1:14:33
  that we do not rise up into the fullness of who we're supposed
• 1:14:37
  to be, because we've only seen snippets of what the sons and
• 1:14:43
  daughters of God can be and are going to do in the near future
• 1:14:48
  throughout history. This is going to be en masse and
• 1:14:53
  they are absolutely afraid of that.
• 1:14:55
  And so they're pulling out all stops, They're really afraid of
• 1:14:58
  us, is what's going on. So I don't know if that answers
• 1:15:01
  the question or not, but that's that's my take on it.
• 1:15:05
  Yes. And so much more.
• 1:15:08
  So much more and and I feel like there's we could go a lot deeper
• 1:15:12
  even. Oh, sure.
• 1:15:14
  I mean, some of the greatest feedback.
• 1:15:16
  Well, I shouldn't say that, but I've had some very interesting
• 1:15:19
  messages just based on these symposiums that were done over
• 1:15:23
  the last six or eight months here and people saying, wow,
• 1:15:27
  that really resonates with me. And what I'm finding is people
• 1:15:30
  from all different levels of starting to understand the
• 1:15:33
  reality of the world that we're living in.
• 1:15:35
  Right. Whatever.
• 1:15:36
  Wherever they're at, we're trying to meet people where
• 1:15:38
  they're at. We're trying to declare to them.
• 1:15:41
  Jesus Christ is Lord, He is Lord of Lords.
• 1:15:43
  There's one name given under heaven by which we may be saved
• 1:15:47
  by, but we can't forget verses like be wise as a serpent and as
• 1:15:52
  harmless as a dove. Or to be aware of the devil's
• 1:15:57
  strategy and his tactics, I mean.
• 1:16:00
  The gosh, the serpent was pretty wise.
• 1:16:03
  It was the wisest all the beast. That's a pretty high command.
• 1:16:06
  I'm not insinuating on you being close, man.
• 1:16:08
  That's why I'm doing the podcast.
• 1:16:09
  It's like, well, but but you saw how wise he was.
• 1:16:13
  You know, the the temptation was, you know, did God really
• 1:16:16
  tell you the whole truth? What if there was a whole
• 1:16:19
  another system of body of knowledge out there that he's
• 1:16:22
  hiding from you? Why would he do that?
• 1:16:25
  Well, okay, So now we're going to turn the table because, you
• 1:16:29
  know, with all this other stuff going on, we're going to say
• 1:16:32
  okay. So I have creative abilities.
• 1:16:35
  Is the son as a son of the Most High, I'm going to make a
• 1:16:38
  heavenly Tesla Dome to walk around in.
• 1:16:41
  So go ahead, try. I mean, people think, oh man,
• 1:16:46
  that guy, you know, what is he smoking?
• 1:16:49
  You know that he's talking that way.
• 1:16:51
  Wait a minute. We battle not against flesh and
• 1:16:54
  blood, but against principalities and powers and
• 1:16:56
  spiritual wickedness in high places.
• 1:16:59
  Do we think they don't they have technology?
• 1:17:01
  Why don't we have technology? Well, brother, because you got
• 1:17:05
  to know that once the gospel was established, we didn't need the
• 1:17:09
  gifts or the power of God anymore.
• 1:17:11
  And then I say, well, what have you been smoking?
• 1:17:16
  And I I would add on and say more and more people slowly are
• 1:17:20
  coming into the agreement with. The ideas that we are presenting
• 1:17:24
  from a biblical perspective and being aware of our surroundings,
• 1:17:27
  calculating out, hey, this is what I have been a victim of,
• 1:17:31
  right? This is my testimony.
• 1:17:33
  These things have come against me.
• 1:17:34
  I have prayed, I'm fasting, I'm calling out to the name of God.
• 1:17:37
  It is by the power of the Spirit that that God is is going to win
• 1:17:44
  this and. That more and more people are
• 1:17:48
  coming over into the agreement with episodes like this, with
• 1:17:50
  this podcast in general. And that's what's exciting about
• 1:17:53
  this time, because personally, the enemy's trying to destroy my
• 1:17:55
  life right now. It's it's unbelievable.
• 1:17:58
  It's unbelievable. It's what's kind of going on.
• 1:18:01
  And I'm just like, well, I'm not alone.
• 1:18:03
  I hear tons of people that are walking and saying, hey, we want
• 1:18:08
  a frontline position here. We want to be a part of the
• 1:18:12
  Eclaisia. We want to.
• 1:18:14
  Be plugged into what God is going to do in this generation.
• 1:18:18
  I want to know what my status is, right?
• 1:18:21
  Going to church Wednesdays and Sundays has not unlocked the
• 1:18:24
  revelation of my sonship, right? I've been taught scriptures and
• 1:18:28
  I've been taught healthy doctrine, but we are called to
• 1:18:30
  go deeper. Exactly.
• 1:18:32
  Relationship. It's a relationship.
• 1:18:35
  I mean this is something where every single day we should be
• 1:18:39
  literally pressing in and and calling out.
• 1:18:43
  And a humble, broken, contrary spirit the Lord does not reject.
• 1:18:48
  So for listeners out there, if you guys find yourself, there's
• 1:18:51
  a whirlwind around you. There's wars taking place.
• 1:18:53
  We're not going to get into the rabbit trail of everything going
• 1:18:56
  wrong, But open up your eyes. It's all happening.
• 1:18:58
  It's right there. A broken and contrary spirit the
• 1:19:02
  Lord does not reject. So if you find yourself at that
• 1:19:05
  place. And you've listened to this
• 1:19:07
  episode and you've got questions and you're taking this journey
• 1:19:10
  and you're going, whoa, information overload for some of
• 1:19:13
  you. Other people may be saying,
• 1:19:14
  yeah, check that box. I understand what's happening
• 1:19:16
  here. It reaffirmed some things that
• 1:19:19
  that I've been wrestling with. Well, you know, you asked about
• 1:19:22
  commonalities and one of the things that I can say is is that
• 1:19:26
  Jesus made a statement and he said Satan has nothing in me.
• 1:19:31
  Okay What? And, and and I don't mean to lay
• 1:19:33
  this like his his condemnation on people because we're all
• 1:19:37
  growing in this. There's so many different
• 1:19:39
  levels. But one of the reasons to get my
• 1:19:42
  book is because it gives you a foundation to work off of.
• 1:19:45
  It filled the gap because there wasn't one like that out there
• 1:19:48
  that I was aware of that gave us the terminology and
• 1:19:52
  understanding. But I repeat over and over in
• 1:19:54
  the book we cut our teeth on getting rid of the filters and
• 1:19:58
  static within our self first before we jump out there and
• 1:20:02
  start doing heavy Kingdom stuff. Because it's in.
• 1:20:06
  It's kind of like being in a flight simulator over and over
• 1:20:09
  and over again. And then finally we get a knock
• 1:20:11
  on the door and said okay, it's time to try a real plane.
• 1:20:13
  Now Okay, but you've become proficient and we are our own
• 1:20:17
  flight simulator. And so everybody's had their
• 1:20:20
  herds, disappointments, you know, family, things passed on
• 1:20:26
  from generation to generation. We cut our teeth, but we also
• 1:20:29
  established very powerful abilities as we successfully
• 1:20:34
  move through one level after another after another, OK.
• 1:20:39
  And when we do that, then there does come a point where we go on
• 1:20:44
  the offensive, not just out of our own head, because then we
• 1:20:47
  just fell back into operating out of our soul.
• 1:20:49
  Because we're led by the Holy Spirit in our spirit to do what
• 1:20:54
  we see the Father doing daily. And that's our safety net.
• 1:20:58
  And that's how we stay humble, Because if we don't go outside
• 1:21:01
  of that, we're never going to do anything on our own out of just
• 1:21:04
  being mad because something upset us or whatever, because
• 1:21:07
  then we fall into the enemy's hands.
• 1:21:09
  But the Lord is training all of us.
• 1:21:12
  And so in this, when I see the frequencies, when I see all the
• 1:21:15
  other things, a lot of the same things seem to happen over and
• 1:21:18
  over again. The liver becomes congested.
• 1:21:21
  People either get hardening of the arteries or they gain
• 1:21:24
  weight, Especially around the midsection.
• 1:21:26
  Most everybody's adrenal glands are shot sometimes it's the
• 1:21:30
  thyroid. Well, we we know how to match
• 1:21:32
  supplements at least to get them kind of treading water instead
• 1:21:35
  of sinking down below. But it's also all the spiritual
• 1:21:38
  stuff that we need to get going, brother, because if there's a
• 1:21:41
  real danger and it OK, so I have I I love everyone of my
• 1:21:45
  grandchildren equally. It's so funny to see how some
• 1:21:49
  are kind of more quiet and austere and then the other ones
• 1:21:52
  are just bubbly and funny and it's like they were born that
• 1:21:55
  way. But I've got one granddaughter
• 1:21:57
  who is so very precocious, and I believe she's 5 right now and
• 1:22:01
  she's very smart. I mean, she's one day she, she
• 1:22:04
  wanted to play a game of war with me, you know, with cards,
• 1:22:07
  like I had a nine. But she had a Jack.
• 1:22:10
  And she said she looked at me and she looked at me and she
• 1:22:12
  said, grandpa, she said, I'm just telling you, you better be
• 1:22:15
  prepared to lose. I almost always win.
• 1:22:18
  I said OK, you know, and and guess what?
• 1:22:23
  She beat me okay, but I'm not going to give that child as
• 1:22:29
  smart as she is and as precocious as she is, the keys
• 1:22:32
  to my car. That would be crazy.
• 1:22:36
  Because knowing her, she might figure out a way to put blocks
• 1:22:40
  on her feet and decide to go up and down the street.
• 1:22:43
  Well, that probably wouldn't be safe for everybody.
• 1:22:45
  There's a lot of believers out there.
• 1:22:48
  Even if you've been in the word a lot, that's a good thing,
• 1:22:50
  That's fact it's a very good thing.
• 1:22:52
  But have you engaged with that word until it jumps out at you
• 1:22:55
  and goes from being logos to Rama, meaning it's alive.
• 1:23:00
  Has that has that started working in between the layers of
• 1:23:04
  your body, soul and spirit to bring about changes to form you
• 1:23:07
  into the image of Christ? So it we don't.
• 1:23:11
  So one of the things that could be said about the movement that
• 1:23:14
  I'm a part of is that we have a lot of experiences.
• 1:23:17
  But I can sit here today and tell you that I didn't ask for
• 1:23:19
  one of them. They came because of my
• 1:23:23
  dedication to the Word, because of my knowledge of the Word, and
• 1:23:26
  because I was pressing into the heart of the Father.
• 1:23:29
  And he just took me there. One day I was having communion
• 1:23:34
  and just loving on the Lord Jesus, just thanking him for
• 1:23:38
  everything that he did. And he said, hey, you want to go
• 1:23:41
  to my workshop? And the next thing I know, I'm
• 1:23:44
  walking around in around in his heavenly workshop.
• 1:23:49
  Now to put that in perspective, I'm a knower.
• 1:23:51
  I don't usually see things, but boy did he have a workshop I got
• 1:23:54
  to see that day. Well, the religious purist would
• 1:23:58
  just have a heart attack. He's saying you can go to
• 1:24:02
  Jesus's workshop during communion.
• 1:24:05
  Well, maybe Jesus wants to take you for a nice walk through a
• 1:24:08
  field and put his arm around you and hug away all the abuse and
• 1:24:14
  all the times where you were never understood.
• 1:24:16
  All the times that your heart was absolutely, devastatingly
• 1:24:19
  broken and during that communion time that he wants to do that.
• 1:24:25
  Well, first of all, you got to know it's possible.
• 1:24:28
  But if he did, how would that not be a good thing?
• 1:24:31
  Rod? This is how we expand.
• 1:24:38
  It's little me and Big Jesus. And if it's Big Jesus, how about
• 1:24:42
  letting him really be big instead of just putting him in a
• 1:24:45
  box and saying, well, you can only come out when I tell you
• 1:24:49
  that's really what we're doing. If we're buying into the way
• 1:24:52
  that the world works, heaven works on a completely different
• 1:24:56
  paradigm shift and system of operations than what we do, and
• 1:25:01
  we are supposed to live in both places at the same time.
• 1:25:05
  Christ in me. The hope of glory, Yes.
• 1:25:08
  But I'm also seated with him in heavenly places.
• 1:25:12
  It's not a metaphor. I'm actually there.
• 1:25:15
  I'm seated inside of him. Oh, brother, you're getting
• 1:25:21
  weird on us. No, I'm not.
• 1:25:23
  We have. How can Jesus be a million or 50
• 1:25:27
  million or 100 billion places at the same time?
• 1:25:32
  Well, what if he gave us four or five layers of our spirit to be
• 1:25:35
  able to do the same thing? Now the New Agers do that with
• 1:25:38
  their soul, and they stretch that silver strand.
• 1:25:43
  We don't do that with our soul. We live and move and have our
• 1:25:48
  being in him, and we operate out of our spirit.
• 1:25:52
  That's why they're afraid of us. That's where they're trying to
• 1:25:54
  keep us screwed up. I'm going to have to listen to
• 1:26:00
  this on replay a few times myself.
• 1:26:03
  Doc. This is.
• 1:26:05
  This is what the church needs to hear.
• 1:26:07
  This is what I need to hear. This is what the listeners need
• 1:26:10
  to hear. So I I can't, I have more
• 1:26:13
  questions. We're going to, we're going to
• 1:26:16
  wind down here and and there's definitely a part 2-3 for.
• 1:26:20
  I mean they just I I don't see an ending to it.
• 1:26:23
  You'll just have to be a a, you know, a quarterly or monthly
• 1:26:26
  guest at this point in time because there's so much, so much
• 1:26:30
  ground for us to cover and so much already covered.
• 1:26:33
  Yeah, I'm going to have to marinate in this for a little
• 1:26:35
  bit, Doc. Well, the I'm open the next few
• 1:26:37
  Mondays. After that I don't know.
• 1:26:39
  But you know you just however the Lord leads, brother, I'm
• 1:26:42
  around if you need me. But Monday's definitely at this
• 1:26:45
  time or my best time, so. Well, let's let's tell the
• 1:26:49
  audience where they can find your book.
• 1:26:50
  Is there a place that you recommend that they purchase
• 1:26:53
  like Amazon or your website? And I'll also put links in the
• 1:26:56
  show notes for everybody and then close this out here, give
• 1:27:00
  us some winding down words. OK Well, Okay.
• 1:27:03
  So my website is actually docroditch.com, so I'm going to
• 1:27:08
  spell that out. Doc is just short for doctors,
• 1:27:10
  so it's DOC. And then my last name which is
• 1:27:13
  ROD, as in David ICH Now some people put a K at the end.
• 1:27:19
  It's not a K, it's an H So it's docroditch.com.
• 1:27:24
  When you go to my website, there'll be a couple of videos
• 1:27:27
  up and that my web host was gracious to put in, but you'll
• 1:27:32
  see right away an explanation of what I do.
• 1:27:36
  For those who want the complete package, because it's split up
• 1:27:40
  on my website, it's $250 to do the nutritional and then it's
• 1:27:44
  250 to have the spiritual test. But if they're combined, there's
• 1:27:48
  $100 discount, so it's 400. There's links there.
• 1:27:53
  You'll tell me a little bit about yourself, that type of
• 1:27:56
  thing, because it allows a video.
• 1:27:58
  I'll get an e-mail. I do use PayPal that way, but
• 1:28:02
  also on the site is a link that takes you directly to lulu.com
• 1:28:06
  where you can order. My book not usually takes about
• 1:28:09
  a week, week and a half and but I recommend it as a reference
• 1:28:13
  primarily because the Lord gave it to me as a download and I
• 1:28:16
  still have to refer back to it. So, you know, I'd love to say
• 1:28:19
  I'm this brilliant, wild and crazy guy like Steve Martin.
• 1:28:22
  But, you know, I'm just honored that the Lord said, hey, I've
• 1:28:26
  asked all these other people to do it.
• 1:28:28
  They didn't do it. There's old Doc, Let's call on
• 1:28:30
  him. You know, he always says yes.
• 1:28:32
  So that's that's what heaven did.
• 1:28:34
  And and so so that's, like I said, Doc, roditch.com.
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  Or if you just want it really quick, you just go to Amazon but
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  not the Kindle and it's 25 bucks.
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  And like I said, it's got the workbook at the end.
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  And as far as you know, maybe, maybe I would like to leave the
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  folks with a thought. So very often what we're molded
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  by in life is people that pass one thing on from one generation
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  to another. However, because of the severity
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  of the battle that is really going on against those that call
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  upon the name of the true Lord, and that's Jesus Christ, we
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  can't. We have to go back and we have
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  to look at a lot of things. Not what salvation means, not
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  being filled with the Holy Ghost, not the fruits of the
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  Spirit, none of those things. Those things have always been
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  great and active and should be paramount in what we do.
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  But I'm talking about some of the doctrines and activities
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  that result from doctrines that in and of themselves keep us
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  limited. We need to be like the apostles
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  who, when they were walking down the road, their shadow touched
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  somebody and they were healed. The naysayers always say, well,
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  they were apostles, so they believed the same way that I
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  believed. What they had is they had
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  everything such balance and synchronization that the Lord of
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  Glory was walking in them and the Holy Spirit was all around
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  them. And tell me why we shouldn't be
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  that way today. So please be challenged to be
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  stretched in your inner man or woman and allow the Lord to come
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  in at levels that you never dreamed of, because he's big
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  enough to fill that into Infinity.
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  Let him, as a result of pressing into his heart, show you things
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  that you never dreamed that you would know.
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  But then turn around and be a blessing to other people.
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  Because the reason that the world is in the mess that it's
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  in today is because we've allowed society, culture, so
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  many other things to dumb us down.
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  My challenge to each and every one of us would be, isn't it
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  time that it, children of the living God, bring heaven culture
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  down to earth and start demonstrating it in a visible
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  fashion? That's not just for after we
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  die, it's for now. And those who can catch on to
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  that, they're going to be the game changers in the world.
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  Changers. Phenomenal.
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  And I couldn't recommend your book more to the audience.
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  You guys go get a copy of Moving Towards Sonship with the
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  workbook. You'll find some details in the
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  show, notes listeners reiterating what Doc told us
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  where to get, where to get his book from, and I'm excited to
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  have him back in the future. A bit of a cliffhanger with the
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  questions I have, and I know with you guys as the audience
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  you've got plenty of questions too, so keep your eyes open.
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  God bless and goodbye.