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Bears shift stadium focus to Hammond, Indiana... again · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, call now, I'm glad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Windows City Podcast, presented by a fan side of you know my guy right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That is Alex Shapiro.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am Kenneth Davis, and of course, this is our Bears centered podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about any and everything, particularly something to do with NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And today it's a business show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Cran's the Windows City Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all kind of know
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[SPEAKER_00]: What happened here in the state with them that come in to any agreements or the breaking down of the big projects bill in Springfield, Illinois.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of talk went on about if Hammond and the state of Indiana, if they're being used as deployed, they need to go and say something to the bears as far as get off the pot or do what you do on a pot and buy a pot, I mean as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex, I know you can find two in this a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for everyone watching or listening, please paraphrases better for me if I haven't done so as eloquently as possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you honestly kind of nailed it.
1:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of nailed it, kind of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, before we get into our feelings about all of this, let's just do a very TLDR about how we got here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not going to go way back into ancient history about yada yada.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, I want to try and distill this as best I can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears bought Arlington Heights in 2021.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, we've been doing this a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of right after the pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right away, when Ted Phillips was still at the helm of this thing, there was a press conference with George McCaskey and Ted Phillips celebrating the purchase of this land.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And right away, Ted Phillips was like, Hey, it was this ain't a done deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need property tax certainty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that property tax certainty has been at the the center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: of all of the sticking points of this for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to try and find that property tax certainty, there was this pilot bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the mega projects bill that Kenneth Davis was talking about pilot stands for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: payment in lieu of taxes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the bears, like Kenneth Davis, like myself, like you, if you live in the state of Illinois and are a fan of this podcast, probably don't like that your property taxes are assessed at an incredibly high level and then
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're fortunate enough or have the time enough, you go get a lawyer and the lawyer argues on your behalf to go get those property taxes lowered and then you got to pay your lawyer for lowering your property tax, it's a big, the best word I can think of is a Yiddish phrase.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It means ballad god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a crazy situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a big headache.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody likes the property tax assessments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a ballad god.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who now own this large property and are going to develop it and build the stadium, don't want to deal with that polygon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They want that property tax certainty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this pilot deal has been in the works for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Illinois House of Representatives were just in session.
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[SPEAKER_01]: House passes this bill that they'll go to the Senate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Upon further review,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not so sure about this because Illinois senators have, you know, they have to take care of their constituents and long story short they don't pass that bill at the 11th hour right before closing their session they go forget that bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a new bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a new bill where the bears aren't going to pay for all of the stadium, like they said, because the bears have long said, we will pay for the entire stadium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just want public money to develop the land around it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty reasonable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But now this new bill that the senators pass it like whatever midnight one of the morning three in the morning whenever it was like right when the sessions about to end says actually you pay for 75% the public will pay for 25% and since it's a publicly it'll be public private.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't got to pay property tax because guess what, it's partially public owns so don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll control it and we'll lease it out to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that way you don't have to worry about property tax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Similar to what's going on now, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears lease.
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[SPEAKER_01]: soldier field from the Chicago Park District.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're they're kind of kicking it back being like, yeah, forget that pilot nonsense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to a publicly owned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be private public, but since it'll be publicly owned, you don't gotta worry about pop property tax.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the House of Representatives is like, wait, what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's three in the morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what you have to review this and then session ended.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the the the bill that was kicked back to the House of Representatives wasn't voted upon because they're like, yeah, we need time to review this and now they've all gone home because the session was over because they pass this new bill or propose this new bill.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like while they're already out the door.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I'd be pretty pissed and now we have a new statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that honestly reads like the 18 other statements we've read or they focus is now shifting to Hammond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the focus was Arlington Heights and there was a statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the focus was shifted to the lakefront and there was a statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the focus was shifted to Hammond and there was a statement and then the focus was shifted to Arlington Heights and the city and then there was a statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the focus is shifted to our statement statement statement statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are the the Illinois legislature couldn't get it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know like there are decent reasons like I'm not going to argue whether the legislators will go to better whatever we can get into that more more down the road more now I suppose we can now we can start giving our feelings out of it that's kind of where we're at the legislatures the session ended they couldn't they couldn't pass the bill they couldn't pass a bill so the bears are left waiting in the state of Illinois yet again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone is ranking their fists about something that for the most part doesn't affect you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get this right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know everyone's upset and it's actually added to,
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Chicago Mayor, Brandon Johnson on the midday school, the midday show on the score, Roeamy Harrison, Grody, shut out to all three of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was on there talking about how difficult it is to get out of Soja Field and how he left the game early and still was caught up in traffic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's, you left the game early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what you're talking about is traffic and you're still talking about being there, you mentioned Egress all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so the thing with me with this, I get, and we've talked about this in the past, locations, provide access, so if you live further up north, of course you probably, you may want the bears to be in our lives and heights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you live in the city or closer to the city, you may want the bears to be in the city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't, maybe you don't want to come to the city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you may not care as much if they go right across state lines.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, to kick a dead horse here, when I say right across state lines, I live basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: a heart eight minutes from him and in the end, you know, if I'm running a cross straight lines like you enter Indiana and you're right there at we'll have to link the memorial park.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, let me let me even say it like this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm saying this, I don't have to get on an express way to make this happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying, I can get on South Chicago and be in Indiana, in Hammond, Indiana, in about eight minutes flat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's how much of a part of the South side and also, and this is just saying as far as they actually did use that place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, this right now seems like there could be leverage
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[SPEAKER_00]: There have been reports, um, I don't know if it was a state rep coming him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me get this right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Guy from e-shape, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just make sure, or as my computer is violent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Kenneth this frozen, but that I'm pretty sure to report that Kenneth is referring to is that there was a state representative at a leave from e-shape cargo who essentially said like Kevin Warren told him, Hey, I'm looking forward to continuing conversations with you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which indicates just like the statement indicates it's not a done deal in the statement they say yeah we got a not gonna pick a site in Indiana well like if you haven't even picked a site then by the way we all know it's gonna be well everything points whipping flag memorial park but if you haven't even picked a site that to me indicates he's still need to do environmental studies he's still need to do traffic studies if you haven't picked a site there's obviously a lot of work to be done
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, what's going on?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, when you have these leaks of representative saying, you know, Kevin Ward's like, I look forward to talking with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, what are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you wasting our time in our energy with these statements?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Illinois State Senator who was spearheading the Bears Bill said, weren't told him he looks for it's a further discussion is what has been posted.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, listen, there's calamity, there's foolishness, I will say this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're tired of hearing about it, I do understand your frustration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're tired of the state of Illinois seeming like it can't function politically at an optimum level, I understand your frustration.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I would say that has been the state since I've been here, you've been here, our parents have been here for the most part.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if you're tired of the fact that you want them to be closer to you, I understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, what it really comes down to is, they already have a place to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a really good team so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think our concern, if we're not financially,
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[SPEAKER_00]: if financially this isn't going to help us should be really about the team really about OTAs this is a good done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, to be honest with you again, I understand the frustration but this is a good done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just much to do in some ways about nothing when it comes to what's going on in my life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a great season with a hard schedule coming up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a quarterback on the
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[SPEAKER_00]: Riot receivers up the Union, we got DBs, we got an offensive line, we, we are questioned and defensive lines still.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know, but look, that's one thing everybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Think about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As much as we've been through, we got one thing, if this was two years ago, we had seven to eight things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of where I fall in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do get tired of the state looking silly, but in all fairness, outside of voting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I could say that's the only way I can control that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But even with that, I don't have as much control as perhaps I would like do to how money can lean elections one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Alex, how do you feel about this information so far when you found this up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you mentioned it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned, like, if you're sick and tired of you, yada yada, I don't understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am sick and tired.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we shouldn't be talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be talking about football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We shouldn't be talking about this for the 100th time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, you know, it's like, I have read this statement 10 times now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it feels like we are just, the
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[SPEAKER_01]: time is a flat circle with our focus is now fully shifted and we voted and we're doing this and we're doing that, but, but it's like what what is actually being done nothing is being finalized.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, the way I feel about it is kind of this back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back, Kenneth, you're on frozen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, you're good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The way I feel about it's like, if you're the bears.
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[SPEAKER_01]: enough with the negotiating in public, enough with all of this, enough with the duplicity feels like a strong word.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't want to necessarily go as far as saying they're being duplicitous, but it does feel like it's like you're not being transparent, like this opacity in this, or we're voting on him and but then representatives are saying, well, you told me you're going to continue negotiating,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, you know, enough already.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then for the the politicians, I appreciate that you have my best interest in mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, that is what I pay you to do because our tax dollars pay your salaries and I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But also like, you need to also negotiate it with faith.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This, this delaying of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: of talking about this pilot bill until the very last minute and then passing another bill at the last minute that has absolutely no hope of now being passed in the House of Representatives because you've done it so, so, so late in the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, that's not negotiating in good faith either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like here, you, that's also part of the problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So both sides, as you mentioned, like Illinois politics has been a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First on as we've known, the bears have also been a mess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First long as we've known, they feel like a match made in heaven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you like a match made in heaven and so like when you put that together, it's like altogether unsurprising.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the way this is going on for five years, I'm done with the statements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next statement I want to read from the Chicago Bears is we have signed a deal with whoever our stadium is being built here at specific site and we're breaking ground on this date.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the next statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to hear your shift in focus to Arlington Heights and in four months, five months, whatever, when somebody caves and somebody gets you that property to act certain, I don't want to hear, oh, we've shifted focus back to the lakefront because guess what, there's least dealer, actually need that bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're gonna look at that again, don't care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know when you got it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know what it's around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that's all I need to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I need to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I need to know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I need to know at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Full disclosure, then I'll be transparent as Alex seeks transparency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to bear down the lake for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Simple said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to, I'm like, listen, that would be wonderful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that would be wonderful, Kenneth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, the museum campus needs to be true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the thing too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know there's so much, like, for instance, out south where I live, you have the quantum labs coming, there's gonna be a hospital, if the bears, and this is the thing with the bears move to Hammond, that's the low and that corridor of where all this stuff was gonna be at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so this is changing the south east side, particularly it's right on the lake, so we know what the play truly is, if you know, if you get my drift, okay?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And something needs to happen to it, regardless of how you feel about it, because it's been somewhat decently for a period of time, like a large swath of beautiful land in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The East Side, people make fun of the East Side, but they don't.
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[SPEAKER_00]: know the beauty of what the East Island was and when I was a kid it was made of and beginning to go down but the jewels was not only the actual story even though that's a large part but I mean like the dealerships that all the places where there were economics and money being exchanged before those things left the community and this could bring those things back but
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to like, they ruin soldier field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, like, soldier field isn't a landmark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all fairness, it's not a landmark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And all fairness, it needs to be improved regardless.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're still going to have concerts and things that I want to forget the soldier field aspect, as far as inside of it, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought of rendering, which is about Beyonce coming back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us Swift, Drake, Bad Bunny, whoever the Rolling Stones, piano man, whatever the grateful did, all those great people that come through from different generations that people like, it's still gonna be slow to get out of there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless sometimes though, if you keep, I've been in there a good time of two-way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised how fast we got up out of there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you should there should be a change where it's easier for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm not an architect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't outside of the airy crown theater and some pumps somebody in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what old McCormick and that's for anybody that doesn't know what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean the dark.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like it's three stories, perhaps, building on the lakeside, on the side where so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-so-
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a little further north than 31st Street, but yes, that's where you know, it's probably 2080.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, so that old McCormick place like that's where when I was a kid, the auto show used to be it right before they built a McCormick place west or whatever that is the larger newer one or whatever right my point being if that building really isn't being used all right I'm not even just saying using it for soldier field I think it should be used to enhance traffic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: where that part of 55th and Lakeshore Drive collide with one another, where at least even if times where it makes it easier on game days and concert days to stop traffic going north and south to allow people to jettison out or on Lakeshore Drive or to 55th, it's just, it's 2026.
19:06
[SPEAKER_00]: They got flying cars in China.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'm just saying like it's time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if we've got to start stepping on them.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, bro.
19:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've got to start stepping on them.
19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've got to start stepping on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's time, and this is a country thing.
19:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's time to start stepping our games up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, like it was particularly if my money's going to be involved, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like don't take our money and do some old
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[SPEAKER_00]: with it.
19:31
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take our money and do some new shit that we can partake in because the area is going to be nice.
19:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be free.
19:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I shouldn't have to pay to pull up to the lake.
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: You do not own the lake.
19:46
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the city of Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That needs to end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, did all of that to save the late for Pete for the Chicago wins for you to now charge me to pull up and just take 30 minutes to stare at the water and let my brother pressure decrease.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the lake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't you can't.
20:12
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't pull up to the lake for free, bro.
20:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I park.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually sell it.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I know where McCormick plays it because I like to go fishing around there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I can pay it that 31st street.
20:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, you do, if you're first of all, there, so let me say that.
20:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't, the part where, because I used to just pull up a 30, I just take Kelsey sometimes, we haven't done the do.
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the part where you pull off to the side, you know, because it's the part where it's in land where it merges with 55, whatever.
20:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So, but then those those parking spaces now, I go, I get off there to
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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even looked down to see if the gates up, but on the south side, on at the point, when not the point because it's not at the place right there, by Hayes Park, there's gates.
21:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a pay to go in there.
21:11
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe at Rainbow Beach, you only get 15 minutes free time.
21:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't leave, then they take a picture of your license plate.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you have to pay.
21:21
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the lake from everyone.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: This is ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is free Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't make any sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you have to steal from me and take away a natural resource that does not belong to you to cover your coffers, you probably shouldn't be in politics to be honest with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's these.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to talk about the bears?
21:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's okay.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's
21:48
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, this actually, this is my extra point mid show.
21:51
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
21:52
[SPEAKER_00]: The damn leg belongs to all of us.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
21:55
[SPEAKER_00]: We decide what should go on there.
21:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And we probably should have let Star Wars be over there to just for the money.
22:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Something.
22:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you see the pictures of what they're building.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: girl, this is, I mean, it should have been hour.
22:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And it could, with new stuff, thing about that, new soldier field, the museum can stuff like this makes sense.
22:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Friends of the park, you weren't being friends.
22:17
[SPEAKER_00]: We're, we're, we're friends of the park.
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: How, I'm throwing them in with the Illinois legislature and the bears.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You're now in, you're in the bucket with them, friends of the park.
22:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, relax.
22:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Do friends of the park, where you had on these gates that keep me off the lake, friends of the park, because that's not friendly.
22:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Not for all right, not friendly or whatsoever.
22:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But back to the bears.
22:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears are bears, and the state is doing dumb stuff.
22:44
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears, I don't know what the hell he's doing.
22:47
[SPEAKER_00]: They played them initially when he had that press conference back when we were NBC sports at homes ahead of them on.
22:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had to pass throughout their plan about the stadium, which is wild.
22:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, I don't mean you laugh, but that was so be it's just the things that if you're gonna be spiritual What are you spiritual about?
23:05
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and if you're not spiritual that's fine, too, but you get what I'm drifting at when I'm saying these things God oh, this is a deal
23:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at, but it's just like, bro, like this stuff, some of the stuff that does real that bothers me.
23:20
[SPEAKER_00]: What the bears do?
23:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, if they go to Arlington Highlands and depending on what media responsibilities I have, I have to take my ass to Arlington Highlands.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'll get like, it's what it is.
23:29
[SPEAKER_00]: If they're in heaven, I hope it's not on some radio active select type, I know, you know, you get my plan about, but I don't want anything from it.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure now they have to clean it, but it is Indiana.
23:41
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's the end of the environmental study off the top for a good reason.
23:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to that environmental study.
23:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if you said data to Michael Reese, because the environmental study.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the environmental study say here?
23:56
[SPEAKER_00]: data centers are going up left and right infrastructure is well outside of when they read it their loop or whatever, which is pretty decent, but you can get away from stuff over there.
24:08
[SPEAKER_00]: So still, I'll just say and you can get away with a few, which is some places is actually when you have as much
24:15
[SPEAKER_00]: tape here.
24:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's better.
24:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's not everything.
24:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes going to have his pros and his cons.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But this story and like to see like people simmering and angry about it, it's kind of like it's indifference to me.
24:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I got other things and I'm way more concerned about I know we're a sports show, but I hope you get the weird that we don't do the fact, if we're going to be fake, angry, we're going to let you know it's fake.
24:41
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like you know, I'm really frustrated about this.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: My frustration about the 12th statement about shifting focus is genuine frustration.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Just tell me, just let me know when the deal is done.
24:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I get, I get, I get that part.
24:57
[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, I can shut it that down.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: can it's like, because it's something's going to, guess what, something's going to happen, right?
25:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, and it'll be different.
25:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they'll be different if the bears were leaving to go far away.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: If let's just type that we say, there's a chance the bears are going to leave to go far away.
25:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I will be upset.
25:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
25:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be like, man, this is my childhood team.
25:22
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'd be like bringing new team in, but it's never going to be the same, even though they started winning crazy, hey, it was never like this.
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: But still, that's not going to happen.
25:32
[SPEAKER_00]: So basically whatever happens as long as the place is nice.
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really not going to care as long as it's, you know, it's the lines are good.
25:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The amenities are nice.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: It allows other opportunities for other things to take place.
25:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though how does that benefit me?
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all that matters.
25:50
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, of course, I will prefer it to be domed.
25:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it will be domed rather, but that's all that really matters to me.
25:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to get, you know, saying my done-to-rease-all-punched-up about this.
26:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was way off like two years the bears bought Arlington Park in 2023.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It was February 2023.
26:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Correcting the local has been five years.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been three years.
26:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But still good man.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: It felt longer though.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's felt it's oxygen actually knows.
26:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And that goes to what you're saying about the statements like it's been bandied about so much.
26:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I get that frustration, but this team has bandied about so many different things in our lives that was nothing.
26:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just let, let, let that sink in everybody.
26:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Just let remember and we don't even care about that, right?
26:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Just I mean, things where it's like, I mean, stupid.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you got the first older cast to Rick my or trade.
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, they remember.
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, it was, it was, blend so versus Rick Meyer, man, we got Rick Meyer, we can read, and it was worthless.
27:05
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like just the amount of all the backup quarterbacks that foolish people said, put them in, that was just trashy as the starters were.
27:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just dog.
27:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been so much mess.
27:19
[SPEAKER_00]: People found the love, overly found the love with sexy rexy, with K-McNow.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just I could name names of people, kids that that was their quarterback and they actually believe those guys were studs because those were the first quarterbacks when they finally kind of come back and it's like kids.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The other, so we go to a store there, or go to a store to remember the quarter out of two was going to come here after being ran out of pepper.
27:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a, it was trash.
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: This been so much malarkey.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, when it comes to this team.
27:59
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28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was like that.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we should be doing in terms on that.
28:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Alex, that's actually what we should be the your star Why receiver said it's a new normal for me moving for because it is break all right?
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so think about like good That's kind of my point though.
28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of my point.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that this team can't get out of their way?
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They can't get out of their way like the vibes
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: are the highest they've been for the Chicago Bears, and they have been in what 20 years, since they went to Super Bowl?
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, it's three, five to your highest, since 2019, vibes the highest since 2019, right?
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: That 2018 season, so it's been a while.
29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, and they got us, they got us yelling about stadium deals for one.
29:13
[SPEAKER_01]: because we shifted their focus a 15th time.
29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we can't be.
29:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We should be celebrating Caleb Williams.
29:21
[SPEAKER_01]: That was our rundown today.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: We were going to talk about Caleb Williams being on the cover of Madden, but we had to throw that in the garbage for whatever the hell this statement was.
29:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We voted to advance our plans.
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: What degree are you advancing your plans?
29:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna think about it a lot more now.
29:43
[SPEAKER_01]: What does it mean?
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know what it means.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That's part of the problem.
29:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it means.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: What's in the box?
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: What's in the box?
29:52
[SPEAKER_01]: What's in the statement?
29:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you building this stadium at?
29:56
[UNKNOWN]: What?
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the most radioactive met metallic site we can get our hands on?
30:02
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's a gap for me, right?
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a gap?
30:05
[SPEAKER_00]: What's a gap?
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't know.
30:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again,
30:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just I get that it's frustrating, but it's like it's so many more bears concerns I'm in in a good way because really my biggest concern with the bears is health and growth as far as being a team that is a
30:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That, you know, to see how they progress from that and have in a second year a head coach of how he grows and I, you know, in being we trust, but still there's going to be growing pains, those are more to things that, because they're going to play some, guess what, this crazy part, they can't play somewhere.
30:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Why I'll name it, they gonna play some wood.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: They will play in this Chicago land area.
30:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So why am I gonna be up in here flipping my computer over when they're gonna be in your backyard or my backyard, hey, come into a hood near you.
31:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll all be celebrating hopefully together as they go to a Super Bowl, even though perhaps, hey, a sofa stadium.
31:16
[SPEAKER_00]: If they do have a new stadium, that means they get a Superbowl.
31:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Cole was a Superbowl.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: We know people love that.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you could play a Superbowl at home like the Rams won.
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: And how they're trying to win again this year is the Superbowl being so far.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: But like outside of that, like that'll be cool.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like think about us trying to get our hands on those tickets to sell.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: But um.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm using them back at the chance I'm going to be meeting up in that platform while I'm selling those tickets.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, that's kind of where my head is.
31:54
[SPEAKER_00]: My biggest thought this week was, um, your highly drafted or why receiver, um, who missed a decent amount of games and played through something and made you want to shitty a play through it.
32:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, being tow, he perhaps doesn't need surgery and talked about that the break is calist up and how he has to adjust to it.
32:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is how young he is and hoping that it does not really affect his athleticism is probably a bigger concern for me than wherever they are going to be playing in five to six years if I'm being honest with you.
32:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of David's the voice of reason.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You're absolutely right.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I got to do bro.
32:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, some of this stuff, man, look, I love it.
32:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a sports fanatic, but also, I got you to do, man.
32:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I like stuff has to be done.
32:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I notice this is a grown man, soap opera, and all that but sometimes you got to turn the TV off.
33:00
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I cut the rate, like take the break.
33:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And I notice this is bad for us because we're supposed to more eyes and ears, but I can't have more about your health and mental state.
33:11
[SPEAKER_00]: than you being worried about what billionaire and corrupt politicians are doing when we can't change anything at this point now.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to talk about us galvanizing each other and try to do something, I'm here.
33:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That, that I got time for, but this is kind of like, it'll happen.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Will I like it?
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, maybe not, but I guess what?
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't change it.
33:32
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't.
33:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this a rapper named after the the bussey woods.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's little busie.
37:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Little busy named after the bussey woods.
37:15
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37:17
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes by little Boosey, he will shoot you.
37:24
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37:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been popular, he's been in, he served a lot of time in jail, he's been out probably like the last four years, maybe.
37:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't sound like you've been rehabilitated if he's gonna shoot me.
37:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's not a bad person.
37:39
[SPEAKER_00]: He's from Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: He now I believe resides in the Atlanta.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you ever heard the song White Me Down Remix just to remix, but it people who built people think it's his songs, but it's a remix he jumped on and now he performs as if this is his own song.
37:55
[SPEAKER_00]: But you never heard White Me Down Remix.
37:57
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, shoulders.
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, we can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know you aren't wiping down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you gotta sing most.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you 10 seconds so we won't have to pay.
38:12
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38:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're sure he's not in the after the bus he would.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We're by the way, you can get it.
38:21
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another fishing spot I've been to.
38:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You can catch musky in there, man.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: How crazy is that?
38:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think like you've heard this before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he yelled right next to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a remax.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
38:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want us to know.
38:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Showed us pants, it's just shoes, it's, it's, it's, it was very popular 12 year 15 years ago.
38:52
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that had to be thinking about.
38:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.
38:55
[SPEAKER_00]: What year's it?
38:56
[SPEAKER_00]: That'd be like 20, 10, 20, 20, oh, nine, oh, 10ish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, 20, 11, 11.
39:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why me down?
39:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Box millionaire, I believe was his song.
39:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
39:09
[SPEAKER_00]: So hold that for discussion.
39:12
[SPEAKER_01]: says 2009, trail family wiped me down.
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this one says 2007.
39:17
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's probably the original, but 2009 is when the read was definitely, I know that's when the remiss was pop because I'm thinking about how Oh, Canton was, where I was working, being in lounges, lounges, and it being popular at different parties, I was attended throughout the hoods.
39:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Never heard that song.
39:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in college.
39:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's what I think.
39:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn, I was not listening to that.
39:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was really on some white, white, white.
39:50
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we were, so I lived with guys from like the bay.
39:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was Matt Dre and literally exactly.
39:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, can you do the fizzle dance?
40:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, that was the playlist.
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a playlist we had called Bay Area Slapers.
40:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were, goes riding the whip, scraping on our scraper bike.
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what's another one?
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Gama Vanson, but they look like sneakers.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, he's neat.
40:18
[SPEAKER_01]: We were getting old.
40:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that was, again, I was big with me.
40:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I've always kind of like, they are very, very rap.
40:24
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've always like the 40, as a kid.
40:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Two short has been out since I was like five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So by the time I was like 15, I really started liking to show it more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he had been out since I was like a young lad in great school grade school, like he's been out 40 years, easy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I used to like be a rap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, so again, thoughts on the man cover.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a preference over the ice man went or the jump man I like I'm both I actually kind of like I don't mind the jump man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a nice night like we've been an open me pro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know he wants to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be equivalent to Michael Jordan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be deified.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He understands what Michael Jordan means to this city.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can tell it's Michael Jordan, old Lord, the times we about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he, he's, that is his aspiration, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: As it should be, like, why not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not be, why not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Michael Jordan level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, to continue to pay tribute to that and and continue to to push that forward, I'm all for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm catching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, it doesn't, again, I just prefer, I like the iceman thing, or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize to George Garmin.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You still should get your props for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like to cover with the ice, him doing that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully he stays healthy, Caleb this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if he stays healthy, he's gonna have a fantastic season this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Period.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was good to see John the Jackson too and what he had to say this past week, but we'll get into that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're about to get out of here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to make sure again, Walter's picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back in like a week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going a little summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going on some hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for bringing that up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should we should say that summer hours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So,
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[SPEAKER_01]: But taking a little summer break is not really summer break, but we're down to one episode per week for June and July.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So taking a little relax, it's summer relax, it's Chicago, you know, summer time shy, P.L.S.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be outside enjoy your stuff, stop stressing over wherever the hell the bears are going to play.
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