Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #307 - If I Wanted to Survive the Recession, This Is What I'd Buy
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- 0:00The recession is coming and I'm positioning our capital across three specific
- 0:03sectors and industries to protect our wealth. Not
- 0:07the speculative plays everyone's chasing, not the hype, not
- 0:10the sectors that boom only during good times but collapse when
- 0:13things get hard. These are the industries that actually work when
- 0:17everything else crashes. They're durable. They have endurance. These
- 0:21are the industries that generate income when the market falls apart. And
- 0:25these are the industries that will protect you when inflation stays
- 0:28high and unemployment starts to rise. I've spent years
- 0:32helping people save tens of millions of dollars, and the one thing I've learned
- 0:36is this. The people who survive recessions aren't
- 0:39the ones who panic. They're the ones who position themselves
- 0:43before it all happens. So, in this
- 0:47video, I'm going to break down exactly which industries I'm
- 0:50positioning capital in and why I'm doing that. Because
- 0:54the window is closing very quickly. So,
- 0:57I'm going to tell you exactly what I'm doing and
- 1:00why I'm doing it. I'm Lloyd James Ross, seven-figure
- 1:04investor and entrepreneur, and I've helped thousands of business owners and
- 1:07professionals turn financial stress into success. If
- 1:11you're stuck in old money habits, overwhelmed by investing, or unsure where
- 1:14to start, this is for you. I'll give you the mindset and
- 1:17strategies to take control, grow your wealth, and achieve financial
- 1:21freedom. It's time to make your money work for you. The first sector
- 1:26happens to be the healthcare sector. where demand doesn't
- 1:29disappear. Healthcare isn't actually discretionary. people
- 1:34don't just stop looking after themselves. They
- 1:37don't stop getting sick, they don't stop filling their prescriptions, they
- 1:41don't stop visiting hospitals, and they don't stop needing chronic
- 1:45care. That makes this particular sector, healthcare, one
- 1:49of the most recession-resilient sectors in
- 1:52the economy. So here's why I'm buying it. One, inelastic demand.
- 1:56The usage barely falls during recessions. An
- 2:00aging population, right? It's increasing. So the demand's rising
- 2:03off its baseline. Pricing power through insurance and government reimbursement.
- 2:07So you can actually increase the price of these things without it
- 2:11disturbing the demand. And of course, strong free cash flows, even
- 2:15during economic slowdowns. So in downturns, healthcare
- 2:20typically holds earnings protects
- 2:23the dividends, and recovers faster than cyclical sectors.
- 2:27So that makes it such a defensive sector. And
- 2:31with that comes defensive compounding. So the growth in
- 2:35capital over time, even in defensive sector, it's very, very, very
- 2:39recession-proof, I should say. Now, does it come with its own risks? Of
- 2:42course. It can still be susceptible to balance
- 2:45sheet risk. If I'm buying stocks in this particular sector, balance sheet risk,
- 2:49key man risk, management risk. It can certainly
- 2:52go through different regulatory risks without a doubt. I mean, we've seen
- 2:55that with the changes in Medicaid at the US level. So
- 2:59it doesn't come without risk. It just means that during recessions, it's
- 3:03super defensive. So will healthcare still be around in the next 10, 20, 30, 40, 50? Absolutely.
- 3:07Will demand increase? Yes. Do people
- 3:11stop doing it when there's a recession? No. That's why
- 3:14I love it. All right. So that's the first sector. The second sector.
- 3:18a business as old as time itself just about, this
- 3:22is oil and gas. Oil and energy, I should say, the
- 3:25energy sector. What makes it effective? Cash flow
- 3:30and not just based on growth. Energy
- 3:34is really misunderstood. By energy, I mean typically oil and gas, not
- 3:38really in renewables or you could put it in there as well, but typically it's
- 3:41oil and gas. People assume recessions
- 3:45kill all demand. But it's more nuanced than that. There's more
- 3:48to it. What actually matters when
- 3:51you're investing in the oil sector, and I don't mean like buying the commodity. I
- 3:55don't mean that at all. I'm not buying oil barrels themselves or
- 3:58not buying oil as a commodity directly. I'm not
- 4:01even buying futures or forwards contracts, anything like that. I'm buying
- 4:04stocks in oil companies. And if you look at the way Warren Buffett positions
- 4:10his capital to benefit from a particular type
- 4:13of commodity, he will always buy the underlying business. Now specifically he
- 4:17prefers oil because it's a very entrenched
- 4:22unbeatable product. In fact, if you had to choose a product of all products, oil
- 4:26is the product of all products. People think this is, and by all accounts, this
- 4:30is a very good product. However, oil is needed to create that.
- 4:34Oil is the essence of everything. That's why the US
- 4:37just overtook Venezuela. If you don't think oil is important, why did they just overtake Venezuela?
- 4:41Why did they go after Greenland? It's who gets the
- 4:44most oil wins, because here's the thing. There's this really important
- 4:48race to AGI happening. The AGI, artificial general
- 4:51intelligence, is what the US is racing China to achieve. Right
- 4:55now, China is leading the energy race. It's
- 4:58building 36 nuclear power plants. Did you know that open
- 5:02AI, just to generate one gigawatt of power, needs
- 5:05to create a whole power plant that powers 900,000 houses? it
- 5:09needs 36 of those to win. 36 power plants. China
- 5:12is already doing that. So China's leading the power race because
- 5:16these two countries are in a race to AGI. Sergi Brin
- 5:20from Google, he came back out of retirement to join Google and
- 5:23he said, I'm here. I think it was Sergi or Larry Page said, I'm here
- 5:27and we're going to either go broke or get to AGI. That's how committed Google
- 5:30is to getting AGI and they're on a pretty good path. So that's a US company. So
- 5:33it's US versus China. Now guess what you need to
- 5:37power AI. Guess what AI data centers need? You
- 5:41guessed it, oil. The whole economy as
- 5:44it grows faster and faster, the AI needs oil. Okay. Now
- 5:47with oil, it's not about what separates good
- 5:51oil businesses from others is the cost position.
- 5:54Mean this, right? Those who can produce oil at the lowest
- 5:58cost typically win, right? Energy is foundational. in
- 6:03the sense that it's a very simple business model. You can pull oil
- 6:06out of the ground at a certain cost and you can sell it through a distribution for a
- 6:09certain cost and refine it for a certain cost. So it's very much a little bit
- 6:12like the AI stack. You have to be fully integrated or you have to
- 6:15be a specialist at your specific period of integration, right? I
- 6:19know it's a bit of a mouthful, so stay with me. Just quickly, if you're ready to take control
- 6:23of your finances but feel stuck on where to start, I have a
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- 6:34Get your copy via the link in the show notes and let's get your money working for
- 6:37you. Now back to the episode. So here's why I'm buying oil before
- 6:41a recession. One, just stating this again, energy and
- 6:44oil is foundational to the global economy. Fact. Supply is structurally
- 6:48constrained after years of underinvestment. So what that means is this. The
- 6:53cure for low oil prices is low oil prices. So
- 6:57what I mean is when oil's low, now it's gone from $100 a barrel
- 7:01in 2022 down to $57 to $60 a barrel today,
- 7:05right? That's a huge fall in price per barrel. Now
- 7:09when that happens, it doesn't make any sense for companies
- 7:12to start drilling again, because drilling costs a lot of money. So unless oil's at $65 plus,
- 7:17they're not going to drill for new oil. What that means is it structurally undersupplies
- 7:21the oil market, because no one's drilling. And if you look at the data at the
- 7:25minute, you see that there's less wells, less wells, less drilling, less drilling. Now,
- 7:28with undersupply of drilling will come undersupply of oil. When that happens
- 7:32and the demand's going up, it means there's not enough oil. If there's not
- 7:35enough oil, price of oil is going to shoot. And Warren Buffett suggests and
- 7:38says that it's not going to shoot to $100, it's going to shoot to $200 a barrel. So
- 7:41we're going to see a massive Increase in the
- 7:45price of oil we're gonna see huge cash flows for oil companies And
- 7:48they're not spending any money at the moment drilling new wells because it's just not
- 7:51the price of all is not high enough So you're gonna see a structural Constructually
- 7:56constrained oil price and under investment, which
- 7:59is going to increase the price of oil So there's a lot and there's low-cost producers
- 8:03that generate cash even with low oil prices and that's where you live when you position
- 8:06yourself in And energy companies prioritized certain energy
- 8:10companies, these ones, that have got low cost, they're integrated, they
- 8:13prioritize dividends and buybacks, okay? So they're not reckless with growth.
- 8:17And if you can find that, this is one of the coolest, oldest
- 8:21businesses ever to be part of, right? So in recessions, high
- 8:25cost producers suffer, they go bankrupt, low cost producers consolidate, and
- 8:28they actually buy some of those assets themselves. Cash rich operators buy
- 8:32those assets cheaply. And over time, they start to compound that
- 8:35capital over and over again. And I know some wonderful companies in
- 8:39the sector that do that, right? But this is not really just a bet on oil prices exploding,
- 8:42although that would help a lot. It's a bet on the survivability and
- 8:47endurance and durability of shareholder returns. So
- 8:50for the last almost two, I
- 8:54would say 150 years since John D. Rockefeller really cornered the
- 8:57oil market, oil companies have absolutely dominated.
- 9:01He became the richest man in the world through oil. Oil
- 9:06ain't going out of fashion. You need heavy crude, you need light crude, you
- 9:09need gas, LNG comes from oil. You
- 9:13need kerosene, you still need petrol. I mean, EVs are still developing, but you still
- 9:16need oil to develop EV batteries and EV cars. I
- 9:20can't begin to tell you how much oil is still needed in everything. From
- 9:23this desk, this microphone, to my iPhone, you need
- 9:27oil for feedstock, everything. You need oil to generate all the food in the world,
- 9:30from all the diesel, from all the equipment. You need oil everywhere. Is
- 9:33it the most important product in the world? Yes, it
- 9:38is. And so I'm positioning our capital there in the right companies, big
- 9:42majors, some Canadian players who have durable competitive
- 9:46advantages to outlast even the cheapest oil price. So
- 9:49they win when oil falls, and they win when oil rises, and
- 9:53they win for the next hundred years. And that's why I'm
- 9:56super excited to have our capital position in oil. Now, what's the third
- 9:59sector? I'm so in love with this sector too. It's so good.
- 10:03Railroads, the backbone of physical commerce, right? Railroads
- 10:07don't trend on social media. Now, railroads
- 10:11used to be a very poor investment, but it's consolidated. There's only a
- 10:14few a handful of great class
- 10:19one railroads that move goods across countries, right?
- 10:23And so rail, you have to understand is the most efficient way
- 10:26to move large bulk goods. It's impossible to
- 10:30replicate, meaning you can't just go and lay 32,000 miles
- 10:34of track there in the United States instantly, you can't do it. It would cost you
- 10:37between 500 billion and a trillion dollars to do just that.
- 10:41Yet you can buy some of these companies for a hundred billion. They're undervalued
- 10:45against the infrastructure they already own and operate in, right? Plus, they're
- 10:48protected by extreme barriers to entry on a regulatory basis.
- 10:52So those three things make them durable, impenetrable, and
- 10:56almost impossible to compete with, right? But why railroads shine
- 11:00before and after recessions is because of this. They're monopoly-like. They're
- 11:04monopoly-like, right? You can't
- 11:07compete with them. They're also essential. They're essential for
- 11:10the transport of food, energy, chemicals, and
- 11:14industrial goods. Because
- 11:17of those things, they've got amazing strong pricing power through long-term contracts.
- 11:22They can increase the price of how they move things and it doesn't affect the
- 11:25demand for them. Of course, they've got lower fuel cost per ton
- 11:28mile than anything else like trucking. So during downturns,
- 11:33the volumes of what they change may dip, but cash flow
- 11:36is solid. The competitive position is impenetrable.
- 11:41It actually strengthens during recessions. And railroads are
- 11:44quiet compounders with fortress economics. and they
- 11:47throw back cash to shareholders, right? They throw
- 11:50back cash to shareholders during recessions, after recessions, got pricing power, they're
- 11:54consolidating, you can't compete with them. It's unbelievable, which is why Warren
- 11:58Buffett owns the largest railroad in America, BNSF
- 12:02Railroads. And it's why I've positioned our capital across, which
- 12:05can buy stocks in one of the USA's leading railroads. It
- 12:09makes so much sense. I could pretty much bet the farm on just buying that railroad. It's
- 12:13so good. Anyway, they're the three sectors.
- 12:17But here's the common thread across those three sectors. These
- 12:20assets share the same DNA, right? at
- 12:24the core. What are they? Let's go off the top. One,
- 12:27they're essential to daily life. Healthcare, oil, and railroads, essential.
- 12:32Two, they're difficult to disrupt, which means you can't just
- 12:35step in and compete with them. Regulatory, capital-wise, you
- 12:39just can't. They're capital-intensive. They're difficult
- 12:42to replace. and they're supported by long-term demand. The
- 12:45demand for oil, the demand for moving goods, and the demand for healthcare is not
- 12:49going away. It's absolutely increasing. They don't
- 12:52rely on cheap money. They don't rely on hype. They don't
- 12:55rely on exponential user growth. They just don't. They rely
- 12:58on economic necessity. That's
- 13:02why before any recession comes, not after, I'm
- 13:07positioning our capital across those three specific sectors. So by
- 13:10the time a recession arrives, you
- 13:13know, prices have already moved. Quality assets are already harder to
- 13:16accumulate. Fees are already at its peak. And you'll see a lot of capital move
- 13:20into these sectors because they are unbreakable, right?
- 13:24So buying before a downturn allows you to
- 13:27do a few things. One, lock in the current yields. They're pretty solid
- 13:30at the minute, the yields. Two, build positions gradually over time without
- 13:34having to buy at full price. Avoid forced decisions
- 13:37like panic selling in one sector to go to another, which is what will happen. And
- 13:41of course, let the volatility work for you, not against you. So position your
- 13:44capital at times when it's a little bit cheaper. And right now, you can still get into these sectors for
- 13:48very reasonable prices. It's quite amazing. So positioning
- 13:53Not market timing, it's the difference, okay? And into
- 13:57areas and sectors you never have to sell. And that's why I'm
- 14:01excited about these particular sectors. So, I'm not
- 14:04rotating into highly leveraged growth stocks. I'm not rotating into businesses
- 14:08dependent on cheap capital. I'm not rotating our capital into companies with weak balance
- 14:11sheets. I'm not rotating the capital into stories that require perfect conditions
- 14:15to survive, right? Well, like everyone else. Recessions
- 14:20will expose financial weakness. It will happen. And it
- 14:23happens faster than any analyst could ever anticipate. And I've seen it happen before.
- 14:27So I'm positioning before then, and I'm positioning for a 100-year portfolio. And
- 14:30I'm super pumped about that. Do I still hone tech? Absolutely, in
- 14:33certain areas. I've done an episode on China tech. I think that's big. It's going to grow. But
- 14:37the big takeaway is this. Recessions reward cashflow, balance
- 14:41sheet strength, and essential services. And what you want to do is position for durability. What
- 14:45I love about this is I don't have to sell any of the healthcare. I never have to sell any oil
- 14:48stocks. I never have to sell the railroad. I never have to make sell decisions.
- 14:52It's just set and forget forever. And they outperformed the
- 14:55S&P 500 historically, right? So it's not
- 14:58a promise of overnight riches. It's not sexy at all. It's
- 15:02very much Unsexy, but that's what I love about it. It's
- 15:05durable There's income and there's long-term compounding all
- 15:09the three best things to do to get wealthy and when
- 15:12the next recession hits Those traits matter more than
- 15:16narratives. Okay, so here's a bit of a final thought You
- 15:21don't build wealth by predicting headlines You
- 15:25build wealth by growing assets that still function when the economy
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