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Jonathan Fahey on the Basic Tenets of Law & Order · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: On the line with this right now as someone who
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  Speaker 1: knows a lot about borders. Jonathan veahe who used to
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  Speaker 1: be the Deputy Assistant secretary at the Department of Homeland
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  Speaker 1: Security under President Trump during his first term, Sir, thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. You must have had
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  Speaker 1: some maybe PTSD looking at that video from Spain overnight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing. You kind of expected Bill Mallusion
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  Speaker 2: to be in the picture and reporting on it. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing. And you know what the most amazing part
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  Speaker 2: about it is that was our daily occurrence at the
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  Speaker 2: border during the you know, Biden administration. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: had a course of thirteen thousand people a day, three
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand a month. But it just shows that these
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  Speaker 2: far these leftists wherever they are, that's one of their
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  Speaker 2: core issues is open borders, mass amnesty, and they want
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  Speaker 2: you know, and we didn't want to basically destroy everything.
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  Speaker 3: But what's worse than that is we didn't know who
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  Speaker 3: was coming in. You know, the guy from Venezuena, what
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  Speaker 3: was his name, Enduro It emptied out his jails, emptied
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  Speaker 3: out his hospitals, and he sent them to New York.
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  Speaker 3: He sent them to us. I mean, I want to
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  Speaker 3: know which Democrat out there it was supporting that to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I think every Democrat essentially has supported that happening, because remember,
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  Speaker 2: none of them spoke up about it until twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: four when it was an election year and they started
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  Speaker 2: giving a little mild pushback. But during twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two, and twenty twenty three, when this was going
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  Speaker 2: on every single day, the Democrats remained largely silent and
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  Speaker 2: supportive and did the standard you know, tricks of anyone
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  Speaker 2: spoke out against it from the other Republicans Aisle, they
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  Speaker 2: call them races, call them xenophobic, just a standard playbook.
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  Speaker 2: But it is one of the most destructive policies that's
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  Speaker 2: ever been implemented in this country. And it's just so
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  Speaker 2: shameful because it was implemented against the will of the
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  Speaker 2: American people. And you know, we're still paying the price
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  Speaker 2: on a daily basis. We're still we're gonna have more
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  Speaker 2: Lake and Ryland as war Sheridan Gorman's because of people.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden let in, welcome in, gave them gift cards,
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  Speaker 2: put them up. Remember they were putting up at hotels
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  Speaker 2: in Manhattan. The Roosevelt Hotel. They're putting illegal aliens in
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  Speaker 2: a place that most people could never afford to go,
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  Speaker 2: and they were put in there permanently. It's just so shameful.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, the Democrats want it to happen again,
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  Speaker 2: and that's the worst part of it all, which shows
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  Speaker 2: where they're coming from.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, the biggest mistake, John is the fact
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  Speaker 4: that they're trying to make it sound as if though
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  Speaker 4: it's anti immigration. I don't think Jacob, John and myself,
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  Speaker 4: none of us are anti immigration. There just needs to
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  Speaker 4: be a proper policy that people have processed, that people
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  Speaker 4: have to follow. I mean, we all come from someone.
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  Speaker 4: My father was born in Poland, my grandmother Argentina, my
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  Speaker 4: wife is from the Ukraine. I mean, let's be serious.
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  Speaker 4: I believe in immigration. I just don't believe in open borders.
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  Speaker 4: You know Trump, I obviously going back with him over
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  Speaker 4: fifteen years. He used to constantly say this is not
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  Speaker 4: a new ideology for him. He used to regularly say,
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  Speaker 4: a country without borders, quite frankly, isn't a country. If
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  Speaker 4: you want, I can actually do his voice so you'll
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  Speaker 4: know exactly how a country without borders quite frankly he's
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  Speaker 4: in the country at all, and that's what he used
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  Speaker 4: to He's been saying that literally since twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 3: We got some breaking news.
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  Speaker 4: A second, it's a freaking news WABC.
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  Speaker 1: So we're talking about this mass migrant invasion in Spain
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  Speaker 1: that we're all seeing video of, even the mainstream news media,
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  Speaker 1: and now it's confirmed. The Spanish Prime Minister saying that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a court decision that's said that migrants by
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  Speaker 1: the sea can't be returned once they cross over into
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  Speaker 1: mainland's Spain is what triggered this. Well, duh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is a you roll out the welcome at you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking to Jonathan Vay, former top official at the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security, also a former very successful federal prosecutor.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the answer to so many of the questions
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  Speaker 1: is just simple law and order, isn't it. Not the restriction,
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  Speaker 1: not not repression, just enforce the existing laws. Correct, Jonathan Faye.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, exactly right. And I think John's point is so good.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's not anti immigrant, and that's a less
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  Speaker 2: trick to manipulate people and bully people. But it's like
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump, you know, his policy on immigration is reasonable.
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  Speaker 2: It's let's have immigration that benefits the American people, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the way it should be vetted for. And there's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that, nothing that should be apologized for
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  Speaker 2: doing that. And you look at Spain, they not only
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  Speaker 2: have that Supreme Court ruling, but their prime minister also
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  Speaker 2: implemented an amnesty policy that was supposedly going to be
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  Speaker 2: only for five hundred thousand people, which is still a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but they've already had over one I think one point
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  Speaker 2: one or one point two million people applying for it.
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  Speaker 2: So it just shows what the Democrat want to do
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  Speaker 2: here too, which is they want mass amnesty for all
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  Speaker 2: the illegals. So what does that do? Not only does
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  Speaker 2: it give them mass ambassy, but it encourages more people
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  Speaker 2: to flood our borders because they know they want to
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  Speaker 2: be there for that amnesty or the next ambassy.
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  Speaker 1: It's an easy segue, Jonathan fayhe to the mass ambassy
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  Speaker 1: they want for Furvi's not just for illegal immigrants. It's
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  Speaker 1: emptying the jails, it's getting rid of cash bail. These
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  Speaker 1: are basic tenants of law and order. I also strongly
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  Speaker 1: believe that the answer to the rise in bigotry and
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  Speaker 1: anti Semitism in America isn't hate crime laws. It isn't
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  Speaker 1: sending someone of the Holocaust Museum. It's enforcing existing law
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  Speaker 1: and order. If every American or or visitor to this
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  Speaker 1: country understands that if you assault a human being, vandalize
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  Speaker 1: a building, no matter who the victim is or the
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  Speaker 1: perpetrator is, you're going to go to jail. That's the
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  Speaker 1: end of the problem. There's the end of your violence.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is these are basic tenants we were
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  Speaker 1: just talking earlier. You have leaders of countries who, in
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  Speaker 1: a Hobsian way, have decided, as Hops talked about, leaders
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  Speaker 1: who are telling their public they are no longer going
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  Speaker 1: to protect them, that they would rather invite these dangerous
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  Speaker 1: people in because of a political principle that is a
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  Speaker 1: rupture of a basic tenet of Western civilization that's even
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  Speaker 1: older than this country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right. And really the downfall of Europe
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  Speaker 2: is really just essentially it's weak men that are afraid
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  Speaker 2: to stand up for themselves and stand up for their
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  Speaker 2: culture and stand up for Europe, and they constantly degrade
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  Speaker 2: their own society. And this is the natural result. If
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  Speaker 2: you can't stand up for your own society. People are
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  Speaker 2: going to overrun it and take over. And when these
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  Speaker 2: people take over, they're not going to be as forgiving
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  Speaker 2: to the people that are there. And it's just astonishing
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  Speaker 2: that they are allowing this to happen for essentially short
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  Speaker 2: term political gain but long term harm to the society.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't care, Like, you're exactly right, law and order.
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  Speaker 2: Without law and order, nothing else matters. So it's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you can't do the basics, all the other stuff
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  Speaker 2: goes out the window because you live in chaos. No
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  Speaker 2: one's safe, no one's secure. But it's just so shameful
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  Speaker 2: watching this happen in Europe, and also we watched it
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  Speaker 2: happen here and that you know, the Democrats sat idly
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  Speaker 2: by allowing it, you know, allowing it or encouraging that
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  Speaker 2: to happen to the detriment of so many people and
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  Speaker 2: probably so many people in the future.
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  Speaker 1: It's also low in order. Jonathan Vahey again, former Assistant
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  Speaker 1: Secretary of US Department of Homeland Security. Also, law and
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  Speaker 1: Order is also the greatest anti poverty program of all time.
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  Speaker 1: I want to float an idea pass. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: teach you in school, we learn in our culture that
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  Speaker 1: poverty leads to crime. The opposite is true, And I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if you agree with me poverty doesn't cause crime.
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  Speaker 1: Crime causes poverty.
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  Speaker 2: Well, exactly right. If you have chaos, you have disorder,
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  Speaker 2: you have lack of respect for personal property, private property rights.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to grow an economy to create opportunities that
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  Speaker 2: have opportunity. So yeah, you're right. If if you have
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  Speaker 2: crime again, nothing else manners, and you look back to you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, your city with you know, Rudy Giuliani Daves,
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  Speaker 2: it really transformed the city just focusing on the basic
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  Speaker 2: law and order principles and everyone, not literally everyone, but
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  Speaker 2: almost everyone benefited normously, not just from the quap not
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  Speaker 2: being victims of crime, but like you were saying, economically,
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  Speaker 2: probably if you're more comfortable going and joining the city
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  Speaker 2: you go at, your schools are better, everything is better,
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  Speaker 2: and nothing else again, nothing else manners if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have it.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan vahe you know, we're also in a situation here
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  Speaker 1: in the city where we have and I'm gonna get
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  Speaker 1: I know you were a criminal prosecutor and you're at
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  Speaker 1: Homeland Security, but as a legal scholar, I also want
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  Speaker 1: to ask you about just another thing that's going on here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we have Michael Cohen here in the studio
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  Speaker 1: and he already asked you a question. He's one of
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  Speaker 1: many New Yorkers who have received this demand from the
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  Speaker 1: city that you have to prove you don't have a
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  Speaker 1: second resids it is worth an x amount of money,
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  Speaker 1: or we're going to hit you with this huge tax.
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  Speaker 1: That's also an abrogation of a basic tenant of Western civilization,
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  Speaker 1: which is if you are trying to extract money from
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  Speaker 1: someone else, the burden to proof is on you, not
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  Speaker 1: on them. How can you run a society like this, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The way this is being implemented is just
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  Speaker 2: so it's basically, yeah, putting the otis on the people
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  Speaker 2: to prove that this isn't a second home or it's
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  Speaker 2: not worth a certain amount of money. It's so shameful
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  Speaker 2: and it really amounts, you know, it's sort of a
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  Speaker 2: constitutional question. Is this a taking by government? They're basically
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  Speaker 2: taking property from people because they're from another state. So
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  Speaker 2: you have a lot of constitutional issues here. But really
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  Speaker 2: it just shows this is sort of this politics of envy,
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  Speaker 2: of resentment, and all of these things are just so unhealthy.
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  Speaker 2: And you know all they're going to do, and you
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  Speaker 2: all know they're going to drive people out and make
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  Speaker 2: New York City, make it worse for the people that
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  Speaker 2: are currently They are so and they everyone even knows
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  Speaker 2: that that's true, but they'd really rather, you know, take
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  Speaker 2: you know, take a piece of people that they don't like.
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  Speaker 2: And even though it doesn't really help the people they
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  Speaker 2: say they're helping.
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  Speaker 4: You know, most people don't remember New York City in
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  Speaker 4: the seventies when the city was really in bad, bad
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  Speaker 4: shape and you had building after building which we're falling down.
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  Speaker 4: You had completely run down, the homeless, the the the crime,
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  Speaker 4: everything was upside down. And that's what I think is
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately in in the books in store for us coming up,
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  Speaker 4: simply because all the wealth is going to leave. You see,
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  Speaker 4: that's the thing about wealth. They don't have to they're
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  Speaker 4: leaving New York. That's my point.
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  Speaker 3: They're leaving New York. And it's very very sad. I
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  Speaker 3: love New York, You love New York. We all love
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  Speaker 3: New York. And you know, even yesterday, Bank America announced
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  Speaker 3: they're building a big building in.
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  Speaker 4: Texas because they don't want to deal with this moron.
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  Speaker 4: Mayor of ours.
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  Speaker 3: It's just that simping is that they don't want to
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  Speaker 3: deal with with Albany. They don't want to deal with
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  Speaker 3: city whill right now.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I forgot to talk about Albany. I mean
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  Speaker 4: Kathy Hokeel she doesn't agree, by the way, I know
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  Speaker 4: people that work for her, she does not agree with
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  Speaker 4: what they're doing. But Kathy Hokeel is doing this for
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  Speaker 4: political purpose. She wants to keep her power. She's completely
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  Speaker 4: she is she's completely incompetent, and she doesn't care. It's
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  Speaker 4: all about her retaining. Instead of standing up and saying
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  Speaker 4: we're going to work with Ice, like with that two
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  Speaker 4: eighty seven g agreements, instead of turning on saying to
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  Speaker 4: the mayor, you cannot do this into tear tex.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah that's perfect for you. Jonathan Vey, last word to
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  Speaker 1: you on this. How does it feel when you see
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  Speaker 1: these sanctuary cities and sanctuary state. It's telling the public, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna work with the people who are trying
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  Speaker 1: to get rid of the most violent illegal immigrants. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's gotta be more than just an aggravation for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so shameful because and I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: most people really realize what they mean by a sanctuary city.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like they'd rather turn a criminal over back
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  Speaker 2: into the community rather than turn them over to ICE.
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  Speaker 2: And just last year New York twenty twenty five turned
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  Speaker 2: over seven thousand illegal aliens back into the community rather
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  Speaker 2: than ICE. But it just shows a Democrat what their
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  Speaker 2: true motive is. They look at every illegal alien as
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  Speaker 2: a vote or a potential vote, so they don't want
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  Speaker 2: a single vote getting thrown out of the country. But
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  Speaker 2: it's so shameful that they're willing, like you said with Hochel,
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  Speaker 2: they're willing to compromise, you know, that the safety of
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  Speaker 2: the citizens for their own political gain. And it's so
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  Speaker 2: shameful when you see a politician, because most of them
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  Speaker 2: go into politics with good motives and then they get
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  Speaker 2: there and the only thing they mattered, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: is keeping the power as opposed to serving the public.
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  Speaker 2: And it's it's really shameful when we can all see
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  Speaker 2: this from both sides of the aisle, something that is
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  Speaker 2: incredibly harmful and it's still happening and no one will
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  Speaker 2: do anything about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Mayamon Donnie came in, by the
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  Speaker 4: way to do good things. I think he came in for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there res that men you talked about it.
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  Speaker 3: Donna take a break.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Faie, thank you so much for joining us, the
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  Speaker 1: perfect guest for us on this morning where we see
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  Speaker 1: a border being completely destroyed in a in a western
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  Speaker 1: one of the oldest ones.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I want to get somebody on from NATO
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  Speaker 3: or from Europe. Now it's gonna tell us how how
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  Speaker 3: do you feel about it about one of the NATO
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  Speaker 3: countries being invented?
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  Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, pull their security clearance? All right, Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much.
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