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Did Rachel Wilson trounce this male feminist? Let's take a look · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 2: My name is Brian. I'm here with Alison and this
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  Speaker 2: is maintaining frame. Sorry about the delay like multiple days,
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  Speaker 2: but we are here now. It's called did Rachel Wilson
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  Speaker 2: trounce hit this male feminist? Let's take a look. And
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  Speaker 2: uh before the show started, Alison and I were just
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah that's why. Yeah, but what I.
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  Speaker 2: So this is as I was saying, this is a debate.
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of people have made videos chiming in
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  Speaker 2: on it, commenting on it, and it is between Brian
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  Speaker 2: Shapiro on the left and Rachel Wilson on the right
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  Speaker 2: of the screen. And uh, I mean, obviously Rachel is
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  Speaker 2: the woman. That's good I'm getting at. But anyway, the
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  Speaker 2: debate topic is be is it be it resolved? Is
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  Speaker 2: feminism good for women and children? So this is a
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  Speaker 2: discussion not about this. Yeah, obviously not no. But so
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  Speaker 2: Rachel is arguing no, and Brian is arguing I guess yes.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he doesn't really make arguments much in this debate,
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  Speaker 2: which is that why I thought it was interesting. And
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's a it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be the most intellectually challenging conversation, and that's not because
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  Speaker 2: of Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: I'll just say that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that she's trying her best to like bring
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  Speaker 2: you know, bring forward thing.
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  Speaker 3: What It's an interesting reversal though, because Rachel is trying
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  Speaker 3: to make this coherent and logical and the man is
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  Speaker 3: spazzing out like a fruit loop. Yeah it's yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: because Okay, just flashback to the dating panel. The men
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  Speaker 3: on the dating panel were doing the custodial thing and
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  Speaker 3: trying to turn the conversation from the complete, regulated, contradictory,
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  Speaker 3: insane mess the women were producing into something that made
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  Speaker 3: any kind of sense. Uh, But but that that custodial instinct.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna watch it reversed, I guess, with Rachel trying too,
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  Speaker 3: trying to make a disregulated baboon makes sense, or at
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  Speaker 3: least the output makes sense. But I'm also gonna make
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  Speaker 3: another prediction. Okay, there's gonna be a lot of relational
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  Speaker 3: web signaling from this man trying to not attack Rachel's
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  Speaker 3: actual arguments, but her legitimacy in the relational web so
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  Speaker 3: that she does so it's not her arguments become illegitimate
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  Speaker 3: because she occupies the wrong position in the relational web.
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  Speaker 3: That's what That's what I'm predicting. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't watched it, so yeah, I guess, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do the opening statements.
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  Speaker 2: So he's starting, and again the topic is is feminism
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  Speaker 2: good for women and children?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 4: I like to think it's going to be history versus
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  Speaker 4: common sense. You guys can decide for yourselves. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's funny because I was talking with my manager on
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  Speaker 4: the way over here, and we were laughing a little bit,
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  Speaker 4: because the irony of this debate is she would not
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  Speaker 4: be standing here, with all due respect, she would not
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  Speaker 4: be getting paid to debate me if not for feminism.
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  Speaker 4: What that's not an opinion, everybody, that's a lord.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, hold on, hold.
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  Speaker 1: On, Alison, I got just the I got just the
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  Speaker 1: thing for this.
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  Speaker 5: Literally just maybe one hundred or so years ago, one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and such a few years ago, that women were
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  Speaker 5: still viewed as chattel.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's basically his argument.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so basically, right off the bat, that's relational web signaling.
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  Speaker 3: He's basically saying, you wouldn't even be part of the
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  Speaker 3: relationtional web, lady, if it weren't for feminism, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even be here. You wouldn't even be a node in
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  Speaker 3: the web. Your opinion wouldn't matter because men men never
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  Speaker 3: cared about women's opinions until feminism. They never cared at
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  Speaker 3: all about women's opinions until feminism. Feminism is the thing
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  Speaker 3: that made men care about women. Feminism a political politicipe
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  Speaker 3: politicized nagging is the only thing in all of human
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  Speaker 3: history that made men care about women. Prior to that,
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  Speaker 3: men never built shelter for women. They never harvested for women.
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  Speaker 3: They never protected women. They never changed legal codes to
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  Speaker 3: give women specific pre protections in marriage and in their communities.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, they did just a little Fyi, every
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  Speaker 3: code that I have looked at so far has had
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  Speaker 3: specific provisions for the protection and provision of women. Doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter what era you draw from. That didn't exist for men. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So no, men did none of this. Men never behaved
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  Speaker 3: custodially towards women or cared about their opinion prior to feminism.
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  Speaker 3: Feminism made men human.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, feminism made men human.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: She would not have been paid to write her book
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  Speaker 4: if not for feminism and.
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  Speaker 3: The Jane Austen was paid to write her book in
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  Speaker 3: like the seventeen the eighteen hundreds, right, Probably since there
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  Speaker 3: were books that could be written, women have been paid
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  Speaker 3: to write them.
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  Speaker 2: As long as Yeah, but for as long as people
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  Speaker 2: were able to write, there were probably.
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  Speaker 3: Women, right and by a Japanese woman and like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, some insanely like fourteen hundreds or something like
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  Speaker 3: this is well, you're gonna be getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: this nonsense, aren't we.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there. Let's just keep going. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: spoil anything.
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  Speaker 4: I need to do this now. Listen. I don't care
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  Speaker 4: how much money she's getting paid. I don't care how
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  Speaker 4: much money her husband makes. The fact of the matter
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  Speaker 4: is is that she wouldn't be here if not for feminism. Again,
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  Speaker 4: not an opinion fact. I've never been called a feminist before.
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  Speaker 4: I've been called a lot of things by a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people. Never been called a feminist because I don't
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  Speaker 4: think I am one. I'm just somebody that doesn't like
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  Speaker 4: to tell other people what to do with their lives,
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  Speaker 4: man or woman. Who am I to tell a woman
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  Speaker 4: you should stay at home, you shouldn't be in the workplace,
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  Speaker 4: you shouldn't have kids after thirty.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 4: I want people to live their lives and do the
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  Speaker 4: things that they want to do, because life is short.
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  Speaker 4: What right?
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  Speaker 3: What? Wait a second, Wait a second, but you won't
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  Speaker 3: allow that women contradict feminism, of course, not like literally,
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  Speaker 3: you can't contradict people.
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  Speaker 1: Do whatever they want. Accept disagree with me.
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  Speaker 3: If you contradict feminine, if you, if you are a
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  Speaker 3: woman who contradicts feminism, then you deserve to be silenced.
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  Speaker 3: You deserve probably to be tied to a post and
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  Speaker 3: corse whipt. But I've let women do whatever they want
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  Speaker 3: and whatever they want. I'm curious if if his response
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  Speaker 3: to Rachel Wilson doing what she wants might indicate that
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  Speaker 3: he is has a serious emotional problem with women not
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  Speaker 3: doing what he wants. I just I'm curious. This is
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  Speaker 3: my curiosity is peaked. My social web up, My social
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  Speaker 3: web senses are tingling.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, let's keep on all right, I tell you what
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  Speaker 4: to do with your life. Now, I'm not really sure,
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  Speaker 4: And I'll ask Rachel this question. What does this country
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  Speaker 4: look like for her? Does she not want women to
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  Speaker 4: work at all? Does she want us to be a
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  Speaker 4: third world country like Afghanistan where women are not allowed
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  Speaker 4: to work? Now you're gonna hear this word a lot
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  Speaker 4: in this debate. No, it's not gonna be Donald Trump,
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  Speaker 4: but you're gonna hear the word hypocrisy a lot because
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  Speaker 4: Rachel has made decisions in her life because of feminism.
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  Speaker 3: Chel, I let women do whatever they want, except disagree
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  Speaker 3: with the ideology that subordinates their agency to my agency
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  Speaker 3: as a man. Hypocrisy look in.
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  Speaker 2: The mirror, sir, I mean just saying the word hypocrisy,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't I don't know. I think he misapplies it actually,
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  Speaker 2: But let's keep going to get out.
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  Speaker 4: Of a relationship ships because of feminism. It wasn't even
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  Speaker 4: that long ago were women were an abusive relationships, but
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  Speaker 4: they weren't allowed to get out of those relationships. I
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  Speaker 4: don't care about someone's personal life. I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, which which legal system are you talking about, sir?
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  Speaker 3: Are you talking about Dane's law? Roman law? Salary?
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  Speaker 1: He does into that.
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  Speaker 2: He just basically presumedism came along. Women were just eternally
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  Speaker 2: stuck in abusive relationships just could not get out, Like
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  Speaker 2: there was no they had no option. They just had
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  Speaker 2: to be abused, sit there and take it.
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  Speaker 3: In particular, English common law, which would be the direct
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  Speaker 3: precursor of what we live in, had recourse for women
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  Speaker 3: in abusive relationships, and hell if if she didn't even
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  Speaker 3: want to call him abusive. She could just say he
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  Speaker 3: can't get it up, and then the local court would
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  Speaker 3: send its erection verifiers, which would be like a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of old women, and if he was unable to get
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  Speaker 3: an erection while they were observing him, he would be divorced.
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  Speaker 3: He don't even have to allege abuse. Just threaten him
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  Speaker 3: with the direction verifiers like the old witches. You're gonna
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  Speaker 3: look poke at his dick, and if he can't get
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  Speaker 3: erect while they're doing it, they're gonna be like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: he's impotent, he can't be her husband anymore. Throw him
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  Speaker 3: into the wolves. They did that. If you can believe it, okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I get a super chat from Senior Styx three oh
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  Speaker 2: one to one, and he says he may actually believe
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  Speaker 2: it or he is working hard. All right, let's let's
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  Speaker 2: keep going.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care how many ex husbands they have. It's
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  Speaker 4: not my business, but in this debate, it is my
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  Speaker 4: business because she's telling other people.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa oh shit, did you see it's not my business? Okay,
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  Speaker 3: all right, but you just did what Oh he's.
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  Speaker 1: What he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: What he's doing is he's setting up because he says,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care how many baby daddies you have, or
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  Speaker 2: how many kids.
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  Speaker 1: You have or whatever, or divorces you have.
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  Speaker 2: But he's doing that because he's about to bring Rachel's
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  Speaker 2: personal history into it.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he's No, he doesn't care, but he's going
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  Speaker 3: to use that information to invalidate her position. Yes, regardless
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  Speaker 3: of the fact that her position is her position. It
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if she's a hypocrite, right,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter because the arguments stand on their own merits.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the thing that he can't acknowledge. And
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  Speaker 3: so he's going to do these things. He's going to
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  Speaker 3: snip away at the threads, the threads that he thinks
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  Speaker 3: connect her to legitimacy in the web. That's what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: He's setting up a narrative in which he attacks her
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  Speaker 3: ability to speak and be heard, not what she's saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, right, he tries to invalidate her full stop.
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  Speaker 2: not know how to go against their programming. Yes, all right,
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  Speaker 2: let's keep going. Thank you for the super chats guys.
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  Speaker 4: Why is it okay for her to do that but
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  Speaker 4: not others?
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  Speaker 7: I defer, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 3: For well, why is it okay for because it isn't.
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  Speaker 3: She would probably be the first to say it wasn't. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: that she made mistakes, and maybe people.
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  Speaker 2: Who have made mistakes have some like I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: some useful information for people who have not yet made mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly useful information for people. And also, if you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can turn another leaf or turn over a leaf
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  Speaker 3: a new leaf, right, she can say I made these mistakes,
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  Speaker 3: and I admitted not to continue to make these mistakes.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to recognize them as mistakes in order
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  Speaker 3: to say that. That's completely different than a single mother
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  Speaker 3: who's on her I don't know, third baby daddy, who
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  Speaker 3: thinks that she deserves a six figure man, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the six sixty six, and that the world is obligated
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  Speaker 3: to provide that for her, and that she or that
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  Speaker 3: she even deserves a man who is custodial towards her child.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, well, no, you're not going to get that,
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  Speaker 3: because what you're signaling is that you do not value
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  Speaker 3: the relationship between a man and his child. So why
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  Speaker 3: would you expect to get a man who values his
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: relationship to a child. Those men are going to be
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: repulsed by you. So what you're gonna end up in
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: the best case scenario is a man who's basically indifferent
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: to your children, right, and who'll have sex with you,
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: keep the finances completely separate, get into too deep a
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: relationship with you, because you already demonstrate that you walk
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: away from men. And that's your best case scenario is
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: occasional male companionship. Your worst case scenario is you're attracting
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: men who are specifically after your daughters or your sons. Right,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: don't do that. And Rachel Wilson is fully able as
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: far as I can tell, to say this is not
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: a good pattern of behavior. I have engaged in it,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and I am trying to stop. I am my name
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: is Rachel William Wilson. I am an alcoholic, you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that kind of thing. I'm not saying. She's an age, right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: And I'm pledged to turn my behavior around to respect
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: my relationships that I do have now and appreciate them
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: and not engage in this behavior again. But that requires
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: recognizing it as a mistake, and that's not hypocrisy. Right,
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: That is not hypocrisy. It's also not her being cruel
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: to other women when she says, these are the mistakes
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I made. They have made my life considerably worse. Do
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: not make them yourselves, because you may not be as
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: lucky as I am. Right, she found Andrew Wilson. It's
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: very uncommon for women in her situation to find in
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Andrew Wilson, very uncommon. And honestly, if you're you're a
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: typical single mother with multiple baby daddies who thinks that
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: you're hot shit and treats men with contempt as a
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: general category, you are definitely not going to find an
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Andrew Wilson because you're an asshole. So at the very least,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: if you're in that category, you might want to actually
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: start to appreciate men so that you have a higher
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: chance of actually finding a man who will wait. The
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: fact you appreciate men highly enough that they will deal
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: with they'll sort of ameliorate your other negative qualities in
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: life choices. Right, Because the only time I have seen
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: a good outcome from a woman getting a divorce, even
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: just to a divorce, right, just from one man, much
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: less from multiple men. The only time I've seen a
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: good outcome is when that woman is specifically dedicated to
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: caring about men, has specifically challenged and removed that generalized
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: contempt towards men as a category in her life. That's
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: the only time I've seen a good outcome from a
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: woman getting divorced, and usually that's because the divorce it
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: was a result of a genuine incompatibility, not just he
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: doesn't provide ninety one hundred and fifty percent of everything
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I need and everything I can vent to need. So anyway,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: that's something to consider. Okay, let's continue.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: All right, let's continue now Rachel's rebuttal.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: We're going to kick it over to Rachel for her
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: five minute opening as well.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Well, it's an opening ount of rebuttal per se.
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: But Rachel, I have the time or set for you.
• 23:24
  Speaker 8: The floor is all yours.
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: Well, thanks for coming, everybody and being here. It's great
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: to see so many faces and all of you online watching.
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: Thanks for your support. Thank you to Andrew for giving
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: me something beautiful look at in the front row. A
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: whole straw man. Opening is brand new for me, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 9: that should be fun. So for my opening, the topic
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: of the debate is has feminism and good for women
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: and children. I'm glad we're talking about this because the
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: whole reason I do this is that feminism has destroyed
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: the lives of children. So let's talk about the promises
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: of feminism.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: What it told?
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Why Why is she suddenly got an echo? What? Why
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: does she suddenly have an echo? He didn't have an echo?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think hold on a second, that you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: or that. Yeah, it might be mean, but I don't
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: know why.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'll just plug in my headphones.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: It might also be the video.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Uh no, I don't think it is, because.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I've watched it, So okay, all right, well, then let's
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: let's try to fix that. I will once again beseech
• 24:27
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• 24:49
  Speaker 9: Okay, let's continue past how they got the whole agenda passed.
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: Who was supposed to provide women with safety, equality and happiness.
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: Let's look at the last time years and see if
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: feminism has delivered on any of those promises to women
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: and kids.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: So, after no fault divorce became kind.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: Of the law of the land starting in the sixties
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: and spread across the country.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: We changed all of society.
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: Prior to nineteen fifty, they were only about two percent
• 25:19
  Speaker 9: of kids living with single parents in a single parent home.
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: Now that number is over forty percent. Contrary to popular belief,
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: women were allowed to leave abusive and dangerous marriages. Prior
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: to no fault no fault divorce didn't mean no divorce,
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: It just meant.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: You have to have a reason.
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: So in the year nineteen hundred alone, there were over
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: fifty five thousand, seven hundred divorces granted to women for
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: reasons like abuse or abandonment. Now you can just get
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: one because you're not feeling it anymore. So what we
• 25:51
  Speaker 9: have is broken homes, and the effects of broken homes
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: on kids are extremely well explained in the data across
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: all the data sets, and their very consistent over time.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: So after this.
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: Big wave of divorce in the eighties and all these
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: newly single parent homes, children experienced a lot of destabilization
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: in their lives, which put them at risk for everything
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: you can think of from let's take a look at this.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Can we just stop a minute. I want to point
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: something out. Yeah, this guy's a fucking bastard. Yeah, oh yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: I know. And compare that to the Compare that to
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: the panel that we watched where those guys, like the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: women were literally farting out total bullshit and incoherent anti
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: mail nonsense and the guys across from them were trying
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to smooth it out into something polite and worthy of considering.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Did you remember that, like that that dating panel? The yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: they were, they were. They went out of their way
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to create an environment in which those women insanity wasn't exposed,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Like the men were literally custodially ushering the conversation in
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: a way that the women's insanity became less obvious, and
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: they even tried to elicit some information, Like they didn't
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: express any actual sexual interest in the women, but they
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: were still responding to the women custodially, even though what
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: the women were giving them was incoherent, chaotic, hateful nonsense.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: And this guy is next to a woman who is
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: giving him compassionate, compassionate to men, compassionate to children and families,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: coherent logical arguments, and he's responding like he wants to
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: take her into a uh, into a parking lot and
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: shoot her in the back of the head.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: He's got a Russian.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Minecraft, He's got Russian dead.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That is one angry leprechaun right there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing he's doing Russian deadpool face right there.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: I probably should I probably shouldn't mention him because he
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: probably still but I don't think he's getting out of
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: jail anytime soon. Uh But anyway, Yeah, this is what
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I'm talking about. He isn't even he doesn't have a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: latent custodial behavior towards women now, Like, for example, the
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: whatever podcast is is different from the panel that I'm
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: talking about. They don't offer women that late custodial Okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna listen to you and try to bring something
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: sensible out of your incoherent nonsense drivel. They actually poke
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: at it. But you know why they're doing that, because
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: they're not they're withholding the custodial impulse and because these
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: women haven't earned it. Like right here again, Rachel Wilson,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: what is she doing? She's expressing a certain amount of
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: compassion towards men. Generally, she is coherent, she has a lot,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: she's she's giving him a lot of material to work with,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and he's responding to it with murderous fury. He had
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: he doesn't, he has no custodial impulse. Like, it's not
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the whatever podcast. The women are giving them drivel and
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: they are matching their energies. You always say, that's not
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: what's happening here. She's murdered. He's expressing murderous fury towards
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: a woman who has every has earned every right to
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: at least be considered right. Even when I talk to
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: like conservative men and I'm saying something that they disagree with,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: it's usually the the the register that the conversation takes
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: place in is still custodial. That makes sense, It's still
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: doesn't go certain places. They're not as harshly dismissive as
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: they would be towards another man. Yeah, but when you
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: disagree with a feminist, I don't know if they just
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: don't have that custodial orientation towards women, but they certainly
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: aren't offering it. Well. Some do. Some are the like uh,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Might even said.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Ryan even said at the beginning that he's he doesn't
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: think of himself as a feminist.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's obviously like speak, he's defending.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Feminism by regurgitating the talking points, so even if he
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: doesn't believe it, he kind of is one. But but
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it's interesting that he says, I don't call myself that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It's almost like he doesn't think that as a man,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: he deserves the right to help to hold that position, to.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Address this kind of murderous rage towards doing nothing but
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: being polite.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and lots.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Like but to get like the make me a sandwich guy,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the guy who said make me a sandwich to Karen,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: chank your chank, your ugur. Right, he's a feminist who
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: probably is still custodial towards women. So that's possible. But
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: there are those who when you disagree with them, they
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: think that they they look like they're murderous. And you
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: don't see that with with men generally, because men generally
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: respond to women custodially and they'll smooth over things and
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: reduce the amount of conflict. That's what's interesting about whatever podcast.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: But the distinction with whatever podcast is again they're they're
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: matching energy. If the women bring them drivele, they're gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: poke holes in it. That's what's interesting about them. Yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: but probably outside of that circumstance, they still are custodial
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: towards women. It's just like what for example, if the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: whatever podcast was bombed, I would bet that the guys
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: on that panel would immediately go into protection mode because
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: that's what men do. This guy would probably let Rachel
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: die in a puddle of blood. So there's something, there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: something missing, and I'm wondering if when men have that
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: thing missing, if they're attracted to feminism or what's going on?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Yeah, yeah, right, keep going, Let's keep going.
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: Homes account for children. Ninety percent of kids who are
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: homeless come from a fatherless home, eighty five percent with
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: behavioral disorders, seventy five percent of kids and substance abuse
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: treatment centers, eighty eight percent of kids who are committed
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: to psych words come from broken homes. If you look
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: at abuse of all kinds, all the data sets show
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: that kids who are living with a single mom and
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: their partner are at the highest risk, more than ten
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: times more risk than children who are.
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: Living with both married Biological parents.
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: Also, for women, domestic violence didn't go away because of
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: no fault divorce. It shifted to cohabitative relationships. So the
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: domestic violence rates dropped for married couples, but it's skyrocketed
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: for cohabitating couples.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: You are at forty percent higher risk.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: Of getting abused by your boyfriend than you are your
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: husband if you live with your boyfriend. So much for safety,
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: I guess what about equality? While men still do all
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: the dirty, dangerous, difficult jobs. Ninety two percent of all
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: work deaths are men. Ninety percent of all infrastructure jobs,
• 33:39
  Speaker 9: the essential infrastructure jobs that run everything you see here,
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: are done by men.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I'm pausing here for just a second.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: The reason why I'm playing Rachel's rebuttal is so we
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: can see the contrasts in how they're approaching this debate. Okay,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: so that's why I'm presenting this. But okay, let's keep going.
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: Women get l less time for the same crime. Men
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: get thirty percent longer sentences. Women get forty percent more
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: probation than sentences for the exact same crimes as men.
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: Single mother households dominate welfare.
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: Eighty five percent of SNAP money goes to women to
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: single moms, and if you look at welfare and out
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: of woodlock birthsonograph, they go up in tandem over the
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: last seventy years together.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: So what about happiness. Are women happy? Well, unfortunately no.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: We now have twenty six percent of all American women
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: are on at least one psychiatric drug. There's been two
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: major studies done on women's happiness since sexual liberation, the
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: Paradox of Declining Female Happiness and a follow up study
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: called the Female Happiness Paradox. Both data sets across time, culture,
• 34:47
  Speaker 9: economic status did not matter. Women's happiness has decreased both absolutely.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: And relative to men.
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: So, in summary, no, feminism didn't deliver on its promises.
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: It hadn't made women and children say for or happier.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: It made them more vulnerable.
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: To abuse and exploitation.
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: By removing the men that have the most interest in
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: protecting them.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: And that that was the point, husbands, and that was
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the point. I gotta get in here, because this is
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: a couple of things that I should be added to this.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: The happiness metrics are a bit misleading because there are
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: two different things. They're measuring how much women say they're
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: happy and more objective measures of happiness so whether or
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: not you've had mental health breakdown, what what kind of
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: if you've had interruptions to work, to sleeping and stuff
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: like that. When you look at the the subjective measures,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: women are doing not as bad and more like in
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: the same range as men. When you look at the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: more objective measures, they're doing significantly worse. Right, they are
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: absolutely worse off, and they have been for a long time.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: And when you when you look at men's objective measures,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: they are you know, they're they're generally calmer, they're more stable,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: they have less mental health issues. Yes, there's suicide, but
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I think suicide comes from a is a is a
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: manifestation of burdensomeness narratives that are placed atypically on men
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: in our society. So that's that's a separate psychological stressor
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: that only men really have. And so but in general,
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: day to day men are doing significantly better on every metric,
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: probably even loneliness, hope, sense of purpose, not having mental
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: health problems. So women will say they're great, and there's
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: probably an interaction between they're supposed to say that because
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you know, we're in a feminist society and they're liberated,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and what's actually happening, which is women are in a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: very bad shape. We talk about the male loneliness crisis,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: but women are in our society, or actually on objective measures,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: significantly worse shape. They will never admit it because that
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: would mean admitting that the narrative is wrong, but it's there.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: You know, women are basically suicidal, but they can't bring
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: themselves to end their misery in minecraft because I don't
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: want to get hit with the censors on YouTube. I mean,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: we're not the sensors, but like the things that give
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: us strikes. Because we got a strike for just reporting
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: on the sexual abuse of a boy. Did you know that, Brian?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: No?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: When wait when did that happen?
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: It happened a couple of months ago. I don't know
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: if it's over yet, but yes, you essentially reported on
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: a case where a boy was sexually abused and we
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: got a strike for that. I don't know, and I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: appealed it and it was like, oh no, this is
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: this is correct? Like it it's not. But anyway, So
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: it gives strikes for talking about sensitive topics, yeah, because
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I guess YouTube just doesn't want people to talk about
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: sensitive topics.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Well, now we have Ai scanning videos in real time,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, so should we continue I want to hear his
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: response to her, or do you want to say something else?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to say about the women's metrics being worse.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And but of course the feminist response to that is,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: you know, feminism isn't about making women happy, then what
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: it is it about? Right? Like, what is literally what
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: is this about? You're you're making women objectively more miserable.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: You're ruining their reproductive opportunities, right, and you are replacing
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: them with things that they normally we wouldn't want. And
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: you're doing all of that to privilege a minority of
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: politically connected women and provide them resources. And those politically
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: connected women are still getting married and having children. They're
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: just putting all of the resources that they gather from
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the women who aren't into their children and their families, right.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: And then the other thing that they're doing is they're
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: using this narrative is a firewall to protect men, or
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: mostly men, but there's also women in this class who
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: are extractive, who are exploitative, to protect them from the
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: oversight that they would naturally have to deal with if
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: normal men were still in you know, weren't weren't like
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: in a situation where they regard their protectiveness as some
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: form of oppression. You get what I'm saying, Like it
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: creates a climate where these extractors can operate because you've
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: basically neutralized the protective impulses of men who can identify them.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Like women have trouble with it. They literally they have
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: trouble recognizing extractive men because they see things through social web,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: which means if the extractive men are just saying the
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: right things, these women don't know. They're like they're mesmerized.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: They can't tell that the man is being extractive. But
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: a man can pick it up instantly because he's not
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: looking at what the men says. He's looking at what
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: he's doing. Because that's operative thinking, right, And if you
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: want to be, if you want to have, if you
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: want to be in an extractive class stealing from everybody,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: you got to turn off men's operative defenses. What does
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: feminism do? It makes men think that when they think
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: when they have problems with something, that it's an expression
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: of privilege or toxic masculinity. You know that that they're
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: being oppressive towards women. And then it shuts down that
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: that basically that immune function that men provide to protect
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: societies from extractors. So that's what feminism is done. So yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: that's and then feminism will turn around and say, well,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: the misery that we that feminism gives you women is
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: just the cost of uh, your liberation, and so so
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: you should shut up about your misery and realize you
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: don't have a right to feel it because it's the
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: cost of the liberation that feminism has given you. Yep,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: perfect circle.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: All right, should we keep going, Yes, let's keep going. Okay,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: let's let's keep going.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much for opening as well.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: We will jump into the rebuttal.
• 42:00
  Speaker 8: These are five minutes as well, Brian, I got the
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: timer set for you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: The four is all yours.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: The word would be hypocrisy. Rachel just talked about abuse divorce.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I want to be very clear with what I'm about
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: to say. It is normally not my business to talk
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: about how many children you have, how many ex husbands
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: you have. But when you have somebody to my left
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: who wants to tell other women how to live their lives,
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bring this up, and I'm going to
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: bring up some studies. Now Rachel has three baby daddies.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Why is that important? Well, Guzzo and Fursberg study says
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: that if you do have multiple baby daddies, family has
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: higher stress, more likely to have more mental health issues.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: The things that you claim that you care so much about,
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I do as well. The door Is study lower income
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and families most likely in children have a lower education rate.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: The Rutger study you just talked about physical violence. The
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Rutger study, which, by the way, these studies have just
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: come out in the last couple of years. You could
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: look it up if you would like on your phone.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: By the way, you want to go back to fifty
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: years or one hundred years ago, then why do you
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: use a cell phone? I'm just curious. Why do you
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: use a cell phone? You can laugh, But if you
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: want to go back to the way things were fifty
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: or one hundred years ago, we were a slavery nation.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Are we still a slavery nation? Now? Do you want
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: to go.
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: Literally just maybe one hundred or so years ago, such
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: a few years ago that.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Women were still.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Viewed ch you want to go back one hundred years
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to slavery guys? You know nineteen sixteen or nineteen twenty
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: six when we had slaves. Uh, okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: this is just incoherent. But let's keep going back to slavery.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: Should black people be allowed to vote? I'd love you
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: to answer.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: This, possibly, Okay? In his world, is it possible that
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: we can just recognize the lessons from the past, recognize
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: the lessons from the present, and go forward with a
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: more sensible game plan or does everything either feminist or
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: slavery like? What? Like? She could say she could simply say, well,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: let's not go backwards.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: She never said that we should go back to anything.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: By the way, No, I just want to point out
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: she doesn't say anything about going back in time.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: She's just saying this, these are the changes.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: We put in place, the policies whatever, that have led
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to this disaster.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Like we're in a mess now because of this thing
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: that happened in the past.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: But go ahead, yes, And but we don't even have
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: to like we don't have to actually go back to
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: We probably don't even have to go back to fault divorce.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: We could just do presumption of shared custody and it
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: pretty much solves a lot of this, which is something
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: nobody's ever tried. It's actually something completely new. And get
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: you know, it's basically just okay, well, fine, you can
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: have divorce, but we're going to respect the father's relationship
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: to his children as much as we respect the mother's
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: relationship to his children or to her children. And then
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: what happens, divorce goes down and everybody's happier. But we've
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: never done that in the past. Okay, that's actually would
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: be a specific innovation of our society which might actually
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: be a significant improvement on any system we've ever had.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: And it's not going back in the slightest. It's going
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: forward with full knowledge of the chaos that we created.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. Yeah, right, it's the there's
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: this is a false dichotomy between the chaos feminism has
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: created and past systems. And I'm not even saying that
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: past systems were against women, because I don't think they were.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: In some cases, I think they were more against men.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: So we can go forward instead of backward. So it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: either it's either feminism, the feminist presence in his mind
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: is at the feminist present, or backwards. And it's like, no,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: you're missing the forward option. Which is funny because he'd
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: probably call himself a progressive anyway.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: M all right, let's keep going after that Rutger study,
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: if you have multiple baby daddies, there's a much higher rate,
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: in fact, a twenty four percent higher risk of physical
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: violence and sex abuse Halliburn study, among other studies.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: Why is he bringing up her studies?
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's he's basically telling he thinks he's
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: like dunking on her, and she's agreeing with all of it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, all that's true. Yes, this is why
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I'm this is what I'm getting at. Thank you for
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: making my arguments for me. I've been there. Yeah, but
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: he's he's giving it more of an emotional the way
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: he says it, you know, Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: But it's hilarious. Does he'd be looking at some somebody
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: who's who's built like a lighthouse, and he'd be like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you know, you only built this lighthouse because you crashed
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: your ships on the rock. Therefore we should dismantle your
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: lighthouse because it's hypocritical. It's like, does that make sense
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: to anyone? But that's the that is the form of
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: his argument, because you crashed your ships on the rock,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: and that motivated you to build a lighthouse. You are
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: hypocritical for running that lighthouse, and we should destroy it.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: That is his argument. That is how much sense it makes?
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Right the poverty line. If you have multiple baby daddies. Now,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: you might tell me right now, and I would believe
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: you if you said I got through it. My kids
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: grew up to be great people, and I would say
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I'm happy for you. I think that's great. But why
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: is it okay for you but not okay for them?
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: Why is it okay for you to say, well, you
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: know what I made some Maybe you won't say it
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: was a mistake. I don't know, I'll ask you. But
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: why would it be okay for you hypothetically to say
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: I made some mistakes yep, but you know everything turned
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: out okay, My kids turned out okay. Why can't other
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: women use those same excuses if they have kids after
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: thirty or if they want their own career. If you
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: want to be a stay at home mom with kids,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I think that's great, go on.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Okay. So basically what he's saying now is you your
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: ship nearly dashed on the rocks, right, and how close
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: you came to being destroyed by those rocks, and then
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: you pull the shore and you got out of your ship,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: and you went up to the promontory and you built
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: a lighthouse to ward all of the weather women from
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: those rocks. And because you survived to build that lighthouse,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: why can't you let other women just dash themselves on
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: the rocks?
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: Who are you to say that other women shouldn't be
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: allowed to almost completely ruin their lives? Why how dare
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you step in and tell them? You know, this might
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: not be a good idea.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy, that's not freedom. Yeah, you made it.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: How dare you say to other women that they're unlikely
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: to make it even though you can clearly see the
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: graveyard of ships in the bay.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: This, this is an argument he is making. This is
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: literally a.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: Face one of the arguments of all time.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: It is okay, okay, But.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: If you want to be out there in the workforce,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: be a doctor or a lawyer, you should be allowed
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: to do that too. And Bible thumpers shouldn't be telling
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: you what you should or shouldn't do. That's exactly what
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: you do, Rachel. So I'd like you to explain to
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: this audience right now, why it's okay for you to
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: have three baby daddies. Why it's okay for you to
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: take those risks in those studies that I just mentioned
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: for your kids? But why is it?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Why is it okay for you to sail close to
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: the rocks and avoid disaster and then decide to build
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: a lighthouse for other people?
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: How?
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Why would you warn people away from the rocks when
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: you survived, even though you can see all the shipwrecks?
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Why would you do that? Rachel? Why?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You know, what really blows my mind is the amount
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: of confidence he has in his voice when he's saying
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: this like there's no, wait a minute, that's actually retarded,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: like anyway, but the con like to say something so
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: dumb with such confidence is it is mind boggling to me.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: It's shocking.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: And this guy, by the way, over one hundred thousand
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: subscribers to his channel, massive audience compared to us for example,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: So kind of wild does radio? Did you know that
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Brian Shapiro does AM and FM radio shows as well
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: in Las Vegas or something like this guy, he's definitely
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: got a platform. But anyway, look at look at the
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: swollen pause, like I got her, She's done.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, we'll switch.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: Over to Rachel for her five minute Rebuttal got the
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: timer set for you.
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: Rachel, the floor is or yours.
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: So what you just heard was amateur hour of somebody
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: who does not know how to make an argument, somebody
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: who doesn't know what a debate is or how to
• 51:58
  Speaker 9: add home have a debate.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Ahead.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: That is not an ad homine attack, sir. That is
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: an observation that is unflattering. There is a difference. Yes, okay, okay,
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: this is.
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: The person who did the ad hominem attacks. He didn't
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: present an argument, He just said, what about you? He
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: used a two quote way fallacy, what about you?
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: Uh, this debate has nothing to.
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: Do with my life or your life, or my personal
• 52:30
  Speaker 9: life or your personal life.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to tell you guys what he's
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: doing right here, because it's relational web thinking. He's attacking.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: He's not attacking the content of her arguments. He's attacking
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: this it's a move that Natty did with me. He's
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: attacking where they came from emotionally, right, or where they
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: came from in her experience. So if the arguments don't
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: come from the right place, they're wrong, which is ridiculous.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: But it's a relational web thinking which considers the source,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: but not in terms of the veracity of the methodology
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: of the source or the bias of the source. Well,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: it does consider the bias of the source, but the
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: veracity of the methodology while separating out potential bias or
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: whatever external like features of the source that aren't related
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: to the argument itself, what the source is delivering. That
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: is a relational web strategy. Attack the position in the web,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: not the actual argument. That's what he's doing. And I
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: suspect that men who use relational web thinking either don't
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: have the kind of endocrine and cognitive architecture of most men,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: or they are learning to use it because it's socially valuable.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: But in either case they are they're pulling cognitive resources
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: from that custodial position, custodial operative position, into the relational position. Okay, anyway,
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: that's that's that's a little bit esoteric, So let's keep going.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's keep going.
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: Staggering lack of self control.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: So again another fallacy, a straw man fallacy. My argument
• 54:28
  Speaker 9: was not that I can tell women what to do.
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: My whole entire opening was just explaining what has happened
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: to society in general, going over data.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: There was no point.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Did you catch that chimp threat, Grimace, there that brief.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Little chimp threat? Yes, yes I did.
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: Okay, there's no condemnation of women who need to leave
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: abusive relationships like I did. There was no we need
• 54:58
  Speaker 9: to go back to slavery, which was fifty years ago.
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: I guess again, I'm not sure how this person is
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: employed in media. But all that aside, he did not
• 55:11
  Speaker 9: address any of the arguments I made, which were that
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: Actually what he did was support my arguments by saying, yeah,
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: when families are broken up, it's bad for kids. When
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: we see divorce, rampant divorce, children raised in single and
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: household families, it's bad for kids.
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: Yes it is. Now if everyone was.
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Rachel You survived all that, so you can't point it out.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't point it out. You went through it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: That makes you a hypocrite for some reason, you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: you know those I was. I thought about this too.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I watched this with Lindsay and I said, basically, this
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: guy is essentially condemning the uh you guys know about
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: the Scared Straight programs. Sometimes they do this in life
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: in big cities, like in urban areas right where they'll
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: they'll bring an ex convict to a school to have
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: the ex convict talk to the kids about like basically
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: avoiding getting into crime, and they would explain their life
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: to the children, you know, to be like, well, this
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: is what happened to me, this is what I did,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: this is what I got into, and they there specifically,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: these are convicts, These are prisoners or ex convicts that
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: are trying to prevent children boys specifically, from making the
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: same mistakes that they did, so they're telling them their
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: life story. Rachel is essentially that exact same example, except
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: you know what single moms or a woman who's been
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: through like you know, a couple of like bad like
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: marriages and had kids be harmed in the process. And
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: she is now and maybe she always felt this way
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: but just made mistakes. I don't know, but she is
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: trying to prevent other women from making the mistakes that
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: she made in the same way that ex convict wants
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: to prevent children from making the same mistakes that he made.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: And Brian Shapiro's condemning that, like it would be like
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: walking in on that on the Scared Straight program and saying, well,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: who are you to tell these kids that they shouldn't
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: go out and commit crimes. They might not go to jail.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: You know, you know it's it's it's the same thing.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: So anyway, Um, I got a rumble rant. I'm gonna
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: read it really quick from Nova Fan twenty one and
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: gives a dollar Thank you, Nova fan and says Brian Shapiro.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: Feminism allowed women to become doctors. This is a great thing,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: doctor Verma. There are more than two genders, and men
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: can get pregnant.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: You were saying, all right, thank you for that. I
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: think that most doctors are probably okay if they're male
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: or female. But but yeah, I mean, nothing is necessarily
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: made better, like writ large, just because women got involved,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily make them better or worse, well maybe
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: worse boys anyway, else, do you want to say anything
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: before I keep going?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm having a little bit of a comment or
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: a argument in the comments, but I'll focus, I'll focus. No,
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: I agree, I was listening to you, Yes.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's keep to him.
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: In instances of abuse or abandonment, we would see divorce
• 58:23
  Speaker 9: rates much closer to numbers that we had prior to
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: No Fault. You would see if you look at surveys,
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: the reasons for divorce, things like legitimate physical abuse are
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: very far down on the list.
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: They're usually like fourth or fifth.
• 58:38
  Speaker 9: The number one reason is irreconcilable differences.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: I just I fell out of love.
• 58:44
  Speaker 9: Mister Johnson down the street makes me feel sexy. I
• 58:46
  Speaker 9: need to find myself. And the kids are resilient and
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: they'll get over it. What I'm against is this frivolous
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: breaking down of families to chase personal happiness. It's the
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: kids don't get over it. We have massive studies on
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: what happens to children after divorce, and as Brian brilliantly
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: laid out, it's very bad for kids.
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: We see the.
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: Worst outcomes for children coming from broken homes. So the
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: argument is not no one can get divorced. The argument
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: is divorce should only be permitted for very good reasons.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: That was the historic norm for the church.
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: I'm not saying that women can't work outside the home ever.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: I'm saying that.
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: Mothers already have a full time job, and that pushing
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: them to work outside the home creating the two income
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: trap that's been laid for us by feminism reduced women's choices.
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: It didn't give us more choices.
• 59:38
  Speaker 9: There was never a time when women were not allowed
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: to work. It just wasn't the norm because women already
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: had a full time job, especially prior to the birth
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: control pill in nineteen sixty five, when most women had
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: an average of three to seven kids, depending on what
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: timeframe you're looking at.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: That's a full time job. It didn't make sense to
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: send women out to do men's jobs. It didn't make
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: any sense to put push them outside the home and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: force them to work.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 9: And now women like me who want to stay home
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 9: struggle and find that they can't and find that they
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: have to work when all they really want to do
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: is be at home raising their own children, and they're
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: forced to try to outsource that, which is why most
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: women only have one or two children anymore. You can't
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: afford to put five kids in daycare, so we have
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: very small families.
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  Speaker 6: We have lower birth rates.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, I have to correct all this. The one thing
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: that's driving the birth rate crisis is women not getting
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: married full stop. That's it. Yeah, because once once women
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: get married, they have about the same amount of kids
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: they always had So how it works is since the nineties,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: since like we you know, the whole birth control, introduction
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: of birth control stabilized the amount of children that married
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: women produce. Since then, married women produce the same amount,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: so women actually do produce children at around replacement rate.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she would disagree with that.
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  Speaker 3: I think, but God, what she's saying is that it's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: actually work and others no, it's not because and she's
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: opening up a problem for people's arguments going down. And
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying this because I dislike Rachel Wilson. It's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: because I can see the downstream effects of this argument.
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  Speaker 3: It is not how much women work. It is not
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: the resources that they have, It is not the social pressures, right,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: This is not why they're not having children. And you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: cannot make women have children by reducing their workload, by
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: increasing the amount of money they have, by increasing daycare,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: or any other factors. That's not going to change anything.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: So people need to stop talking about that because those
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: are actually the things that are making the birth rate
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: crisis worse. Giving women more stuff makes the birthrate crisis worse.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: And the reason why is because when you give women
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: more stuff, they don't get married, okay, and we don't.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: There's no there is no ethical obligation to pour more
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: resources onto women for no reason. I'm sorry, there is
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: no ethical obligation to do this, and what and the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: downstream effect of doing that is a lower and lower
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: and lower and lower birth rate. Making women more comfortable
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: actually decreases the birth rate. So we cannot look at
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: this in terms of giving women anything. That has to stop.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: We have to look at it precisely in terms of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: women need to be in bonds with men full stop.
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  Speaker 3: That is the only thing that is going to increase
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: the birth rate. We need to fix the problem of
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: women and men not pairing up.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean poor people who are married have a
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: lot of kids.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. Women who work a lot have kids. If
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: a woman is married, she is having replacement level numbers
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: of kids. If she is not married, she has not
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: having replacement level numbers of kids. And the decline in
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: the birth rate isn't due to married women. They haven't
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: declined since the nineties. And if all women were married,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: or a significant portion of women were married, we would
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: be fine, right if that is the that is the gate,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: black and white gate. If most women were married, we
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: would have ye at replacement level. The reason we're not
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: at replacement level is because most women aren't married. They're
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: staying single, and single women do not reproduce full stop,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: and they're reproducing less and less over time. So at
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: one point women like they were like four point five
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: or something, now they're at like less than two or
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: at two percent they with single women's women are reproducing
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: even less. So the more resources we give women, the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: more we destroy our reproduction the more. If we actually
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: look at why men and women are not pairing up
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: and fix that, then the birthright crisis will reverse. And
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: if we want to bump women's fertility in marriages up,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: shared custody is how you do it. So those are
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: the two things we need to do. One we need
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: to get men and women pairing up again and marrying,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: and two we need shared custody. Those are the two
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: things and if we cannot do them, there is nothing
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: else that will work. And any idea of giving women
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: more time, more resource, more financial resources, more daycare, more comfort,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: all of that will only add fuel to the fire
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: and make it worse. So this idea that we need
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: to pull push more resources into women to make them
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: productive to make them have children. Needs to die. It's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: not just ginocentric, it's actively toxic. It's actively destroying our future.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Like everybody needs to abandon it. And if conservatives can't
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: abandon it, they're not going to be part of the future.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: If they can't abandon the idea that women need more resources.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Women do not need more resources. They need men. The
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: thing that makes women want to have children is a
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: bond with a specific man, and then the maternal drive
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: as opposed to like the maternal slightly slight interest, engages
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: downstream of the relationship with the men. Men make women reproductive.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: Specific bonds with specific men make women reproductive. That's it. Okay,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to put it out because that logic
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: is leading us into some very bad places.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: Women who are now trapped in a different set of
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 9: bad circumstances with abusive, cohabitating partners instead of a husband
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: who loves them and takes care of them, we're trapped
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 9: in this two income trap. We have women who are
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 9: trying to juggle everything and balance everything and are struggling
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 9: to do that, and.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: They're reporting homeomen In societies where women are the primary
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: producers still have children, Like Southeast Asia, South Asia, West,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: I think Western Africa. There are cultures where women provide
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: the majority of the material goods. Men are providing the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: protection and usually prestige items. Right, The women provide the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: majority of the material goods necessary for societal survival. They
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: still have children. So this too, parent, this two wage household,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: that's nonsense too. Sorry, it's nonsense because married women who
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: are working are still having children at replacement rates. So
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: getting obsessing over this ideal of the homemaker and the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: and the way journer is actually making things worse too. So,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: and I just wanted to point that out because I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: am going to say what I disagree with with Rachel
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: with Rachel as well, Okay, although I will also point
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: out anything that this guy does that I think is
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: underhanded and unethical and despicable. But anyway, but again, focusing
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: on this idea that women working stops them from reproducing.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Is women in poverty work, like women in the lower
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: middle class work. They're still having children. Right, Married women work,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: They're still having children. It is simply they're not enough
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: married women. Okay, let's keep.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Going, all right.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 6: I'm not here to condemn women.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 9: Brian's here to condemn me personally, apparently, which is the
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 9: actual ad home argument. If he had an actual argument
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 9: rather than just pointing at me, that would be fine.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 9: But if all he's here to do is say, well,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: but you got divorced because you were in an abusive marriage,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 9: that's that's actually not an argument.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: It supports my argument.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: That you should be able to get out of abusive marriages,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: and you were. You were actually able to get out
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: of abusive marriages.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: Prior to no fault.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 9: No fault means you don't need a reason and the
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 9: other party does not have to agree, and that's where
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: I think that we went wrong.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: Thank you very much for that rebuttal from Rachel. If
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: we're going to.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: So we by the way, there's no such thing as
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: no fault divorce. It's just man at fault.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 8: Divorce into the forty minute crossfire or open dialogue. I'm
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: gonna trust you, guys, but if there are interruptions, I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: do have to jump in and break it into ninety
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: second responses. So handing it off to you before is yours?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Well, First of all, for somebody that wants to stay
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: home home, you're certainly out a lot debating people. So
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: I really don't understand that argument.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: Well aware, Well let me address that.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Can I just finish?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: I know, but that was like ten but you already
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: got it wrong.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: So my children got everything wrong.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: My children are everything I know.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: They're grown.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: So I've never said that women can't leave the house
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 9: when their kids have grown.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: See this is where she's getting she's getting in the weeds, right, Okay,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: that's that she opened it up. Well because she made
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: the connection. Well anyway, it doesn't matter. I'd have to
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: reconstruct it. And it's a lot of spaghetti at this time.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that he's well okay, okay, let's just
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: let's let's listen, because he's saying, I don't know why
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: if you think women should be in the home, I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: don't know why you're here at this debate.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: And she's about to.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Say her children are grown, so she doesn't have to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: look after them anymore, so.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: She can this like that's when she wrote her book.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: You know, this is my problem.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is my problem with with the more conservative
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: side of this debate. They carry a huge amount of
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: baggage that makes them less agile.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: The setting up the condition that women should be at
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: home makes them less agile. First of all, that has
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: never been the case throughout human history, Like the nineteen
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: fifties was a mythology created by Hollywood. Women have always worked.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: It's just that through most of human history that work
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: was in a more domestic sphere or in a protective
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: envelope created by the men. Right, So, this is that
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: you're setting a standard that you can't really defend historically,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: and you can't really defend for the majority of women.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: Most women are going to have to work, especially in
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: this economy. Right. So's she's put importing a lot of baggage.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: And not only is the baggage coming from a from
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: basically Hollywood, the baggage is not something that's easily carried.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: So this story, it gives this guy an easy in,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: and it also takes the but but even more importantly,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: it takes the essential argument away from where it needs
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: to be because she's saying this is how people should
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: structure their lives. Now, maybe she isn't saying that's how
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: people should structure their lives. Maybe he's importing that. Maybe
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: she's never said that. I don't know.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: She she didn't. She doesn't make any prescriptions at all.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: She simply says there are there that when she talks
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: about the two income trap, that's probably the closest thing
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: to a prescription.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: But I think what.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: It is is the two income trap as that, as
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: they describe it is a means by which women might
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: feel like inclined to have fewer children. And that's a problem. No,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: I know, but I mean that's what that's what she thinks.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe she's just wrong about that. That's fine,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: but none of she didn't make any prescriptions at all.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I mean, and again, Ria.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Shapiro is the one that opened by saying, who are
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: you to tell women what to do? But she never did.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: She never did that. He is importing that. He is
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: assuming that she's promoting the fifties housewife, And just for context,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: I've watched Rachel and other debates. She also understands that
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: the fifties was like an anomaly and that it's not
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: real and that women have always worked. She might not
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: bring that up here because the debates not about that. Okay,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: fair enough, she's not. She's not delusional way.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Probably what she's probably referring to is just feminism creating
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: a certain kind of economic condition. And she's not wrong,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: but it's I don't know if she's followed it as
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: deeply as I have. Feminism has created a fat berg
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: of extractors that are destroying the operative layer of society.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: But anyway, that's that's esoterical.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: I get.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: I get that she's just underhanded. He's being in a dick.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: This is a dick move, yes.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: But so I think just she feels like she needs to.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: And this is the back and forth section anyway, So
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: if she doesn't like cut him off when he's wrong
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: right away, he's going to gish, gallop and just say
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff. And because he already planted that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: bad seed right at the beginning, he can use that
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: to like make a series of attacks. So she's basically
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: saying no, no, no, you're not going to get away
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: with this, and that's going to like basically prevent anything
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: else from happening, which is what I think she's trying
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: So women should be allowed to vote.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: Do you think women are chained to the kitchen?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. Do you think women should be
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: allowed to vote?
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 9: I think it would be better if women and many
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: other groups didn't vote. I would categorize women as one
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 9: of the groups that should not Is.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 4: There any other demo that shouldn't be allowed to vote?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 9: Or is it just Yeah, I think there's a lot
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 9: of different ways that you could limit suffrage that would
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: make everything a lot more fair and a lot more efficient.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 9: I think that if you're taking more from the system
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 9: than you get, so that would be a great way
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 9: to limit suffrage. You'd have to be a net zero taxpayer.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 9: You can't be taking more than you're getting. So if
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 9: you're getting more in snap benefits and wealcare.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: Voting should should be based on how much you pay
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: in taxes or if you.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: Should be based on whether you are contributing to the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 9: system or not.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: If you're taking more.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: Than you're contributing, No, you shouldn't be having a voice
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 9: in governance. You should also have to take a civics
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 9: test proving that you have some rudimentary understanding of how
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: our government works.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: A lot of people wouldn't vote for Donald Trump if
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: that was the case. But anyway, so, okay, so you
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: don't think that women should be allowed to vote, You
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: don't think.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: What an absolutely pointless thing to add?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, he's trying to get his jabs in. Yeah,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 6: Would you like me to explain why?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: No, do you know why the birth rate is so well?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: No, he doesn't want me to explat well, I will.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: I find it interesting that you want to take away Well.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: I find it interesting.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: He's pulling a Kevin logan. I find it very interesting.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Right of a woman which is being able to vote
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: by the way women are as. I think you're aware
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: of bringing children into this world?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 8: Not enough?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, why why is that? What's the number one
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: reason why women aren't bring children in?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: Do you want to know, like the actual corelate?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: No, I want to know, white on rice?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what is the number one reason Rachel, why women
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: aren't bringing kids into this world in the last two years?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Do you know the reason?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: I can tell you what the actual data says.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 9: The data says that the number one correlate to declining
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 9: birth rates around the world in every culture, regardless of
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 9: income or religion, is women's access to higher education and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: pushing them into.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: Mutual So according to the John Hopkins School of Public Health,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: which have been pulled for the last two years, they've
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: done it eight times. The John Hopkins School of Public health.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: I'll take their word over yours. They say the number
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: one reason why women don't want to bring children into
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: the world is something called the economy. Rachel, Now, let's
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: talk a little bit.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: So now he's he's making the argument that women aren't
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: getting enough stuff.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: See yes, so.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and Rachel makes the argument that women
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: being pushed into the workplace where they always were is
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: What's No, both of them are wrong. He's just more
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: freaking irritating.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: The reason why, if you look at behavioral and demographic factors,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: which nobody can lie about, the reason why women are
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: not giving birth is because they are not in relationships
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: with men full stop. And probably what's happening with the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: higher education and workplace is that it comes packaged with
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: feminism and an economic shift towards making women more comfortable,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: which means that they don't exist within the protective envelope
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: of men. Now, this requires me explaining a lot of
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: the investigation that I've done into human courtship and how
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: men and women signal attraction and respond to each other's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: signals of retraction and attraction. And I don't know if
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: you guys want me to go into that. That's gonna
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: be a long digression, but full stop. The reason why
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: women aren't having as many children is because they're single.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Because the number of single women is increasing, the number
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: of married women is decreasing, and single women don't have children.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: They have less and less and less children, whereas married
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: women continue to have the same amount they've always had.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: So the one separating factor between women who have children
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: and women who don't have children is that the women
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: who have children actually love a man. Full stop.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, all right, So he's bringing up the economy.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: He did it really sarcastically. So let's see the response
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, let's talk a little bit about that.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: Let's talk a little bit about that, Rachel. Why are
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 4: people losing their medical coverage? Why are people losing their
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: food steps? Is it because they're just lazy and they
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 4: don't want to work.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: So we're a straw man argument.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: Again once again. The more comfortable you make women, the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: less they have to rely on men, the less they
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: get into relationships with men. And it's not it's like
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: women will say, oh, you just want to trap women.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: It's like, but that's your that's women's choice, right, They
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: don't want a man who doesn't materially benefit or protect them.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: And there's obvious reasons why human women like think about
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: our ancestral condition. Okay. When a woman is thinking in
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: the ancestral world, okay, considering getting pregnant right, probably the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: the home and it isn't doesn't have any conscious thoughts
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: about this. If she just gets pregnant, she dies. Like
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: for human women, pregnancy is a death sentence on their own,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: a death sentence. Okay, so you're out in the wild,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: you get pregnant, you're dead dead. So you cannot get
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: pregnant just randomly from like the way that other female
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: mambles do. They just come across a male. He gets
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: their pregnant, and she can manage the whole thing by
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: herself perfectly fine, gives birth and is operating at the
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: capacity of the Navy seal five minutes later. That's the
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: usual female mammal. Human females not like that at all.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: You get pregnant, you don't have any help, any support,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: You're dead dead, okay, So what's going to change a
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: woman from realizing that pregnancy is a death sentence to
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: pregnancy is maybe survivable. A man who has as the
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: specific orientation to protecting and providing for her. That's it.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: That is the only thing that is going to make
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: pregnancy survivable for her. And when we talk about, oh,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 3: let's give them welfare, let's give them daycare, let's give
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: them food stamps, the problem is that the thing that
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: makes them reproductive is a relationship with a man they
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: believe is going to protect them. Because outside of it death.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: So you can, you can make women more comfortable, but
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: if they don't feel like the man actually is providing
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: something for them, that that kind of primitive trip in
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: their brain doesn't trip, and they don't want to have
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: they don't want to have children. Okay, So the necessary,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: the necessary stimulus for women to become reproductive is a
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: relationship with a man and they can feel that he's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: providing and protecting for them. That's that is my interpretation,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: interpretation from the evolutionary record, the endochronology, the cognitive modalities,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: and everything else I've studied. Okay, and I'm start getting
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: into this. I know we wanted to talk about this
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 3: guy being an asshole to Rachel, and I'm pulling it
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: into some other Alison world instead.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: No, it's fine, it's fine, okay, okay, So I got
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: a rumble rant from OIC for twenty five dollars, thank you,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I see really appreciated, and he says money and put
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: some dancing dog emojis.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you, let's continue.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: The only people who do have replacement birth rates are
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 9: the poorest people. So if it was economics, we wouldn't
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: see that the only people having children would be the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: poorest among us. And historically everybody has had children during
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: times of mind much you're.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Saying the reason why is because poor people can't bring
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: people in the world.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: I'm saying you want to know why, It's because poor
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: people are dealing with a chronic stress threat, like a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: chronic survival threat, and they have to rely on each
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: other to survive, simple as that, And so you're going
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: to be much more likely to see a man, uh,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: the husband of a poor woman having to deal with
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: things like crime, with jobs that are physically demanding that
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: she can't do. So they have to rely on each
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: other more, they have to rely on their family more
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: to even get through it, which means that's based on
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: my study of the end of chronology and everything, that's
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: going to create a stronger bond, or at least a
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: more reproductive one, because I know there's a high degree
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: of divorce among poverty as well. But yeah, like h
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: but again, she's right, but it sort of contradicts the
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: things she said earlier. And he's being a snot.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Art force gave us a two hundred dollars superchow. Oh
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: thank you, awesome, thank.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: You so much, good news everyone.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: And he says it's the economy. Uh, it's the economy, right,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: which is why poor countries have the lowest birth rates.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and again she just.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Said that the poorest people have the most kids in
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the if we knew, like.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: If we recognize, what is actually happening is the fact
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: that poor women are more they understand, they have a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: much closer relationship, physical relationship to how their men are
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: protecting them and providing for them. Again, the jobs that
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: are available to poor men are much more physical and arduous, right,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: they had, so the women have a much closer relationship
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: to how the men are protecting and providing for them
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: in ways that they can't do themselves. That and that
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: and that is absolutely true with poorer countries. You know,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: even if the if the woman's a market woman, who's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: got her stall and is making the money. She still
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: needs her husband to walk her to and from the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: market and make sure that they don't get attacked by
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: like a rival tribe or or like a I don't know,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: like a bandits or or actual predators. Right, So it's
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: the relationship between her and the protective envelope of her
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: men is much more immediate. So she's actually getting that stimulus.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: You know, I am not alone. Pregnancy isn't death because
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: I got this man who's committed to protecting me, not
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: just not not necessarily providing protecting, right, Maybe she can
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: provide for herself to a degree, and then yeah, reproduction result.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Well, the.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 9: Poor people are the ones having the babies. So the
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 9: people who have the resources are opting out because they
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 9: think their job is more important, because they want to
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 9: take vacation, because they want to pay for a second view.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: The people are are pulled and they're saying that the
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: reason why they're not having kids is because of the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: economy of.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 9: They're prioritizing a higher material standard of living.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: Yes, so what has changed then?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: Materialism? Atheism and materialism.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, so you think it's atheism as because they don't
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: believe in.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 10: God because prioritizing how long is this, I'm going to
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 10: move ahead to another time code, it's about an hour
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 10: and a half.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: I'd simply say it's because women are not getting married
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: because women don't have a direct experience of men's protective
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: envelope which will make them feel like it's safe to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: get pregnant. And it's it's it's more, you know, it's
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: that sounds really like mechanistic, but it is the source
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: of that sense of falling in love. It's probably why
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: chivalrous behaviors because it's sort of like a it's a
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: ritualized man is protecting you. And so that sort of
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: explains why that came about. The problem is that women
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: who are deadbeats, single women want to have that simulated
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: experience of protection and provision without actually attaching to any
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: specific man, which is sickening. They don't deserve it. Thank
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: you whatever podcast for stripping that that attitude of entitlement
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: away from women who do not deserve it.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: But because it is, it is a reciprocal thing. And
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: this is another thing that comes from evolution. Men wouldn't
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: have wouldn't be protecting and providing for women if women
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: didn't reciprocate with a specific attachment to a specific man.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: When you take that away, men have no obligation and
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: they won't have any motivation to continue to provide for
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: a bunch of deadbeat women who just want food calls,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: food dates or whatever they call them. They want men
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 3: to give them resources for giving nothing back, and not
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: even not even a generalized I like men or I
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: care about men. These women are overtly mis interests. So
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: they're just nasty and on every capacity, on every level,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: and they still expect men to provide resources to them
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: in the way that men should only do when the
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: woman has dis demonstrated loyalty. Okay, so but again that's
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: what I would say. It's like, this is this is incidental.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: It's not materialism, it's not atheism. I mean, I think
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: that those things are connected. But it is the destruction
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: of the relationship between men and women. It's it's feminism
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: poisoning all of this because in the feminist analysis, the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: protective envelope that men provide for women, what does that become.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: It becomes patriarchal control. So feminists go right to the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: source of that kind of reproductive lock between men and women.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: When a when a woman realizes, okay, yes, pregnancy is
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: survivable because he's protecting me, they go right there and
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: they poison it right at the source.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, play more. This is another time code.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: He's so handsome.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: By the way this is, I want this way.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: I want to take a break and look this way.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: I will say that she wants to get personal with
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: me because she's been doing that, doesn't want to have.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: To actually give an argument.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 9: He all, he just did by the argument, you're insulting
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 9: my physical appearance and.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: I and you're talking to me about.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: Form assaulting your assaulting your physical appearance.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: No, she she said that she thinks that this behavior
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: is retarded, of these ideas are retarded.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: Not did she insult his you know what?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: No, I could go back a bit if that's.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: Pig talk for an agro raticon.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could jump back a bit to uh where
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: they talked a little bit about the Let me see
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: if I can find it the draft, because she she
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: talks about the draft and how it's just men that
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: are drafted.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe I can back all right, all right,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: let's just play it from here.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: And now you're talking to us about how handsome your
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 4: husband is. You couldn't be more insecure? What the other day.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: She's just like she capes for him, you know.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: And I don't know why it a noise, Brian, so
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: much like that women are not supposed to, like vocally
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: say that they love their husband and they find him
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: attractive and all that.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Isn't that strange? Wouldn't we think that's normal? Anyway?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: Kind of funny we had our little Twitter spat. She
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: spent all day trying to convince strangers how hot her
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 4: husband was a little.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: Stress Listen, that's strange, okay, I I mean, well, it's
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: a personal preference, like I probably wouldn't wouldn't sure.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: I think I think that there's something going on though,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: like obviously you don't have to do that, But I
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: think that she's trying to expose how much it makes
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: these people angry that there's a woman who says I
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: love this man and I'm happy to say it, to
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: display that, yes, openly and out in public, right, And
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: that's weird.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, that's absolutely the opposite, the opposite of weird.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: So but they want.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: They don't want men to demand specific loyalty from women
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: before they offer up their resources to the state. Yes, yes,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 3: that's uh, that's no, go there.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: What if she was up there basically saying that she
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: thinks the state is sexy and like really attractive because
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: it takes care of her. Would that be also weird?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: I love my government and welfare check. Oh, let's clap
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: for the snap benefits.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty sure they have done that though.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: Yes they have. That's that's kind of my point. Okay,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: let's keep going your hot.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: If you're married to a woman, you should think your
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: wife is hot. I just think it's a little weird
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: trying to explain to thousands of complete strangers trying to
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: convince them that your husband is it's a little weird,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: little strength, that's all weird.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: You notice the do you notice the check and drive
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: there trying to convince other people, No, expressing the fact
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: that she finds her husband attractive. It's not trying to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: convince anybody of anything.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you can just like ignore it
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: and move on. But he can't really do that, can
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: he tell me?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: No? I've told you you're not chel, You're not listening.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: Rachel you're not listening.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 4: You're right, No, I'm thinking you're not listening.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 9: Okay, the position is, Rachel, I'm.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 4: Not stating the position of my opinion. I've already tried.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 4: You're not God. There is no question that there are
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 4: sacrifices that men have to make that women don't have
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: to make.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: Like, okay, thank you for seeding the point.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: However, there are sacrifices that women have to make.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: That no, they don't have to.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they they're the women have to have kids. No,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: She's like, no, that's not that. That's first of all.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: I guess it's you get to ask if it's actually
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: a sacrifice, if they want children. But I'm obviously you
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: are choosing to do something that's going to make your
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: life different, harder in some ways. But Rachel was saying,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: it's not like the Draft, and he's saying, oh no,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: this is.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely the mirror of that.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: But Rachel's like, but the difference is the draft is mandatory,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: pregnancy is is voluntary.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: These are very different, right, So.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, just your typical male feminist talking over a woman.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Actually I think I might have forgotten because Coran Strong
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: was asking does Brian have a tiny hat under his
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: gray hat.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: No, he's not.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: He's not related to Ben Shapiro. His name just happens
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: to be the same.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a He's.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: A leprechaun, dude. You're going to catch him so you
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: get his pot of gold. That's that's all I know.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: A lepre an angry leprechaun angry like the one from
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: the horror movie.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: Charms.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: All right, anyway, Okay, that's a category I never said
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: they had to do.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 9: Let me help this man with another logical fallacy.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: It's called a category error.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 9: You're talking about an involuntary thing which people are compelled
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 9: by the government to do, versus a completely volunt disagree.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 4: We're going to agree to disagree that. Do you think
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: women are bad in the government? Do you think they're
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: bad representing?
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: You know what else I would add to that, Not
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 3: only do do people not tell women to do this,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: they tell men to do the equivalent. Okay, they force
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 3: men to offer resources for children that those men didn't
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: necessarily choose to have, right, So there is an absolute
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: equivalence here. So there's when they say, well women have
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: to give birth, Well men have to pay for those children,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: and they are obligated. Even if they're raped, obligated to
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: pay for those children, they can't get out of that obligation.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: So once again, men are forced to do something that
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: women get to choose to do. And for those people
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: who say, well, childbirth is dangerous, so is eighteen years
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: of labor. And when men are assigned to provide eighteen
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 3: years of labor to raise a child, they are less
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 3: likely to try to get out of doing it than women,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: So there is an you don't even need to bring
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: up the draft. Men are assigned to do eighteen years
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: of labor for any child that they produce, and the
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: only way they get out of it is if they
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: just don't have the money, but they still end up
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: going to jail if they don't. Women, when they are
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: assigned the same situation eighteen years of labor for a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: child that they most likely actually absolutely agreed to have,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: they just default and the state doesn't see fit to
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: put them in jail at the same rate. So we
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: don't even have to talk about conscription. That's an extra
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: and women don't have to give birth, and when they
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: decide to, a man is then obligated eighteen years of
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: labor based on her choice, right right there, that is
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: an equivalence at it actually isn't even an equivalence because
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: he didn't choose it. Even if he's raped, he's obligated
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: to it. And then on top of that, men have
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 3: to go and serve in war, So there is absolutely
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: no equivalence. There's no situation where women are forced into
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 3: a damn thing in order to protect and provide for society.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: Nothing, maybe maybe jury duty.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: No duties. Well, yeah, no duties. Okay, I don't.
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  Speaker 9: Think women should be in politics. No, but you still
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 9: haven't given me an argument.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: For a dead horse. But I'd liked to move on
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 4: to another topic. Do you are bad at all? Because
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 4: how much time do you have left in this debate?
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of other things that we should be discussing. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: exactly ten minutes more. You think women are bad in government, right?
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: You don't think they should be in government. You don't
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: think they should be politicians? Right? Why is that? Why
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: do you think that was?
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 9: Because the purpose of government is for the protection of
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 9: people and property, and women are not able to accomplish that.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: Women.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 6: There's a reason, by the way, that Historically women couldn't
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 6: own property. It's because they can't defend it. So as
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 6: a woman, if I.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: Own, well, the only problem is that women could.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 6: How am I going to protect it from bandits from right?
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: But women did what? Women did own property in eighteen
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: forty five. They did own property, in twelve hundred, they
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: did own property in nine hundred. They did own property
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: during the Roman Empire. In fact, Roman property laws were
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: very liberal compared to like Salik laws. So women did
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: own property in the past. Like, I don't know why
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: she's framing it this way, but yeah, she has a
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: point that the protection of people's property rights is a male,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 3: male obligation, right, and that obligation granted men. Fulfilling that
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: obligation granted men influence in political discussions. And that was
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: when politics was mostly how do we defend this land? Right? So,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: I mean she's right on that score. It's just that women,
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: even though men were primarily responsible for defending the land,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: they still respected women's ownership of it. So which really
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: does you know, speak to the fact that meant women
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: were not oppressed right anyway, But I'm just I'm just
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: correcting the record there, But.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair enough, you might know more about
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: Rome than Rachel does.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 4: To believe in what they believe in. Everybody has the right.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 4: You can be a Christian, you can be an atheist.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 4: To call people retarded because they don't believe in the
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 4: religion that you.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: Both they don't believe, I know, is so beyond.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: Absurd and bigoted in nature. It's ridiculous. It's no, I
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 4: think you are.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: So what I was going to say, what I was
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: to say, what I was going to say.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 4: Just be quiet, make make make Andrew a sandwich. Quiet.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 6: So that's pretty missistic.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Twenty million to make a sandwich. That's like he does
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: that a few times in the debate. He tells Rachel
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: to make a sandwich. This is like usually when the
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: mask slips right, let me go to twenty two minutes.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: I think he does it again. I just want to
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: show that what does she do there?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: What happens if a woman is a single woman trying
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 4: to raise children? What is she supposed to do to
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: raise those children? You know, the people who you support
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: are against unemployment benefits, they're against maternity leave, and they're
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: basically against every government program that would help that mother
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: raise that child. These are the people that you support.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: So while you can call people retarded for simply not
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: agreeing with your religious beliefs, you're mocking me for making arguments.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 4: And yet you want to insult everybody that disagree with you.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 4: Let me be very clear, I support Wait, hold on
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: that seconds second to be okay, at some point you
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: will finish the sandwich. So the point that I.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: Was, wait, do I have this one?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: Give me a thank you, Give me a thank you
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: for feminist, for getting your right to vote.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Otherwise stop voting and go make me a ham sandwich.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: The sandwich. It's a great argument, the sandwich argument.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: All right, let me change with the sandwich argument.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, the sandwich argument is.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 3: How it The sandwich argument never changes.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, all right, So this, yeah, be quiet and make
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: me a sandwich. Finish your sandwich. And I think it
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: comes up one more time. Uh at the end, I
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: just I think it's the gold. It's the gold because
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: it's what happens with a male feminist, is what they do.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: They eventually crash out and they just attack the woman
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: for stepping out of line.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 6: So men and we rely on.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 9: Them to protect persons and property. Let's therefore, that's the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 9: that's the task.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about protecting. Let's talk about COVID for a moment.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: Female female leaders.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Look at his face.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, he wants to kill her because he's like,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: let's talk about COVID and she has a she chuckles
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: like this is like, really, are we going to bring
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: this up as some example of women protecting being better protectors?
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: I think Allison is distracted talking to either the chat
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: or her punish claude.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: I'll say you there, yeah, I'm I was Actually what
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: was I doing? I think I was? Oh, I was
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: helping somebody in the discord. By the way, if you
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: guys want to join our discord badger nation dot online,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: you get access to what is effectively my blog where
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: I talk at length about all of these ideas that
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: I have. That's a badger Nation dot online and uh,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: you can get in there and read him and get
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: a bit more information about where I'm coming from.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: Gods, did you catch I know he wants to murder her,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: like on stage?
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Did you miss what made him so mad? Did you
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: miss that?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back a little bit if you missed it.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: Did you miss it?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: It's interesting that he can just turn off that custodialness
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: that men have.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right, let's let's let's see where it
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: came from. I'm gonna do it again.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 6: Because men are the only people who can defend the borders,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 6: who can enforce the law.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 9: We've seen what happens when you try to put female
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 9: law enforcement officers on the streets and on the border.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: It doesn't work out very well.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: We need and on their backs. Let's face it. Yeah,
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: what when you like, when you put female police officers
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: on their backs, we see what happens.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, entire precincts suffer the consequences.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: And uh okay, anyway.
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: And property, let's talk therefore, that's the that's the task.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: Let's talk about protecting. Let's talk about COVID for a moment.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 4: Female female leaders.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: God o, my.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 3: God, dude, Jesus Christ is like he's getting the ship out.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at how red he is turning. Holy crap.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: I know he's ginger and that's you know it comes easy.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: But who man, Okay, good.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 3: Lord, don't okay. If you're in a relationships.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: Holding that phase, holy crap, dude, that guy is terrifying.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're like, if you're like a you know,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: smaller than a leprechaun.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're a lepret I'd be careful if you're in
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: a relationship with that dude. Don't disagree with him, and
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: don't don't touch his podigle.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: It looks good, guilt dude, Okay.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: Richard Bierre gives us five dollars and says, broken down
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: to the most granular level, everyone is required to work
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: in order to survive. However, the bachelor pad meme would
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: be that the unpaired and uncommitted man would be comfortable
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 2: with bare minimum employment and coming home to the apartment
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: with just the television set, game console and the futon
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: and finding satisfaction with that arrangement. Brian telling Rachel to
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: make him a sandwich does sound like he stole it
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: from Jank saying the same thing to Karen.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I played that already.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 9: Give me a thank you, Give me a thank you
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 9: for feminist for getting your right to vote.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, stop voting and go make me a ham sandwich.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: The arguments have not improved, They have basically not changed
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: at all. When women basically just don't toe the line
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: or don't know their place, as it were in the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: Feminist hierarchy in the feminist society structure, the setup, and
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: yes they get to to make sandwiches.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: I could go for a sandwich. Thank you for that,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, so uh let's uh alsie you ready, I'm gonna
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: play more of this clip.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: Do it all right?
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 6: Okay?
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: Sure? Tell me? Why are you laughing at millions of people?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: Died?
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 6: It better tie back to feminism?
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 4: Why you laugh?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 6: We're debating feminism and its funny. I think it has
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: nothing to do with Okay, well, why.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: Don't you shut up and let me finish and make
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: your mak them a sandwich again. No, you're just you're
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 4: just respect. I'm trying to make a point. I let
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: you talk, be quiet, let me talk. There's a reason
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 4: why I'm bringing this up. You said women, you said
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 4: women shouldn't.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: Why is the male counterpoint to the to the thoughts
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: that go on the whatever podcast? Yeah, it's like holy ship,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: good lord, And honestly, he feels more dangerous, like the
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: I think the worst thing that those thoughts are gonna do.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Dude, look at the vein on his neck, Alison. Do
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: you see the vein on his neck?
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: It's like just hopping out do you see Oh my god, yeah,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: do you see that?
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, this guy about it? Like the
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: thoughts on the whatever podcast, what are they gonna do?
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: Really have sex?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: Like walk off? Like I think that the worst thing
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: that you see. They storm off. Yeah, but they start
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: crying and they asked to leave. I've seen that.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 3: That's this dude. This guy, he is uh, he's throwing
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: off a lot of red flags.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're in his face. He is a red flag?
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: Can I get Can I get some red flags in
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: the check Guys, if you think this is a red flag,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: he is.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: Hinguring too close to the sun.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: He is the sun.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: No, he would just die, actually think that. I think
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: this is why he has to remain indoors. I know
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: it's hard to be at redhead in the in July, so.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: Redhead and try to perform having a soul in public. Okay,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: let's say.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's keep going. Let's keep going.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: In government positions, yes, I am telling you. During COVID,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 4: female leaders were far more successful than men in dealing
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: with COVID. Globally, women only held seven percent of leadership positions.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 4: Four of the top ten countries UH that were run
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 4: by women.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: And in this study, the death rates thirteen countries led
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: by men, eight led by women, the male per capita
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: two hundred and fourteen deaths per million that were led
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: by men, led by women thirty six people per million.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: You could look up that set know why. You could say,
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: maybe it was ego, maybe it was bad policy, You
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: could say maybe it wasn't listening to experts, whatever the
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 4: case may be. The women that were in power in
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: these countries led to thirty six people dying per million,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 4: by the men two hundred and fourteen deaths per million.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: So if your premise is that men should be in
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 4: power in these positions and women shouldn't, then what is
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: your explanation there, Because if women weren't in power, more
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: people would have died.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 6: Do you believe in freedom and liberty?
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: I think I've made that pretty clear.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 9: Okay, Well, the reason for those statistics is that women
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 9: were notoriously tyrannical, Like the Prime Minister of New Zealand
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 9: locked down New Zealand tighter than a prison camp. And
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 9: the fastest way to get rid of liberty and freedom
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 9: is to put women in charge of the government because
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 9: they overwhelmingly bring in tyrannical wealth.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 11: They are saving the stats of how they say.
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 3: Women and essentially what he's saying. What he's saying is
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: that women take away people's right to drive cars and
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: accidents or zero.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah they don't die though, right, Yeah, they don't die
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: because they're locked up in their house.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: He did, He did them a favor. Okay, I could
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: have died.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: Sorry, not, it's not you. Sorry, I'm talking to my dogs.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: Also, women should be able to like drive their ships over.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: The rocks and get and dash themselves because they might
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: make it.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: But it's also good that we locked them up.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, that's a really good point. You shouldn't
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: put out a lighthouse to prevent women from dashing their
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: ships on the rocks, but you should lock people down
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 3: to prevent them from getting a flues.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Are say that now, Yes we've been allowed to say
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: that for a long time. But yes, protect them from
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: the snow, lock it down forever. Oh, she wants to
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: become a single mom and like go out with lots
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: of you know, potentially unvetted men, and who knows what's
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. She might dash on the rocks. It's okay,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: let her have her freedom syphilis.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: That's okay, sniffers that sit down?
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: Oh I see gives us a dollar and rumble and
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: says male feminist hulk mode.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, okay.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: There could be a little bit more of this, but
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: I think she basically made her points.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: So let me find another time code.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the closing Let's go to closing arguments.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: How about that, Let's go to the closing arguments. So
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna look.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: Up the.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: Ah, shit, I spelled the word wrong looking up there.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: I'm twenty twelve, all right, I think it's like right,
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: this is the.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: Is it after the Q and A? I don't know.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's before let me see. I'll go right here. No,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: these are like questions from the audience. Maybe it's here.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: Ope, shit, this modern feminism advance.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Why is there no audio or visual.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 9: In private spaces for women which can lead to increased risk?
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: Where's the Why is there no video? That's weird? Let
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: me refresh the page. I'm sorry, Oh, you know what.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 9: I think it was the tyrannical like the Prime Minister
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 9: of New Zealand.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: This is like a weird video because it's actually a.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: Somebody recorded it off of something.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: So Q and A's yeah.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: It was like over here somewhere I thought the closing
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: argument then maybe there later. I'm sorry, hold on, guys,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: I gotta find it. Okay, uh one three, Okay, thank you, James,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: let's go one forty one.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to wrap this up. I want this
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: to take too long.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: When my when I was yeah, closing arguments. This, this
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: is like but basically the the end here. So is
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: that okay, Allison.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 3: And I stay's fine, Okay.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 8: Same sections. I've got the time set for you and Brian.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: You want me to go first again?
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 7: Yes, in each case you'll be going first. The floor
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: is all yours, Brian.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 4: Thank you everybody for being here. I do a lot
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: of shows that are way far to the right. I'm
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: happy to do him regardless of whether people agree or
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 4: disagree with me. But I'm going to talk about something now
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 4: very serious and it's an emotional thing. And when I
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: was doing debate prep for this debate, I learned of
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: a horrible story that I am very sad to hear,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: that you had lost your ten year old son in
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: a car accident. And my condolence is to your family.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: It's awful and unfortunately we have something like that in common.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: Rachel and I am truly.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna pause this here.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you guys know, but one
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: of Rachel's children died in a car accident, and I
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: think he was like ten years old as a boy,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: so you know, but like it's not something they bring up,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: like the Wilsons necessarily bring up, but he is bringing
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: this up, and I think this is another attack that's
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: coming using her dead child. So yeah, this is by
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: the scummiest thing that he does.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 4: What I wouldn't wish that upon any.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: But then he does it in and this way was like,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: you know, it sounds like he's coming from this place
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: of caring. Like that's probably got something to do with
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: your relational web matrix.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: But what, I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. That's a
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: weird framing. I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it makes sense,
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: who knows.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: When I was twelve years old, my whole family got
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: into a very serious car accident. I lost my grandmother.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: It's the reason why my sister passed away a few
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: years ago because of her injuries, and I learned at
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 4: a very young age how precious life is. What does
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 4: this have to do with feminism? Life is really short?
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 4: And again I say again, how sorry I am that
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: your family had to go through that. It's horrible. And
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 4: the reason why I talk about how short life is.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you guys what to do.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you guys that you can't
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: vote because you're poor. I don't want to tell you
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 4: guys that you can't be in the workplace if you
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 4: want to be a doctor or a lawyer.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 3: Why did she didn't say that though?
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 4: I don't want to tell you what to do. When
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: I was fourteen years old, my dad introduced me to
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: two radio hosts, Howard Stern and don Imus. I didn't
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 4: really like don Imas very much. I said, Dad, I
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 4: want to be like that. I want to be on
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: the radio one day. And my family supported me, and
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 4: I had to work really fucking hard pardon my French,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: to get to where I am, to be able to
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 4: even do something like this, to be able to go
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 4: on Pierce Moorre, to be able to do those things.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 4: And I'm very humbled by that. But it wasn't because
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 4: I'm a guy. It wasn't because I'm a male. It's
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: because I worked my ass off, which I'm still doing
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 4: every day. And if a woman listens to their dad
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 4: growing up and they and they want to be a
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 4: radio host, or they want to be a doctor or
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: a nurse, or maybe they're poor, but they're still involved
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: in politics and they want to vote. I say, do
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 4: what makes you happy, live your life. Don't listen to somebody,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 4: no matter what religion they are or who they are,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 4: tell you what to do with your life. I'm doing
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: what I'm doing now because I worked hard. It has
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: nothing to do with my gender or because i'm a woman.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: We all have tragedies in life, and I'm sorry for yours,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 4: and I wish we didn't have that in common because
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: it's awful. Don't let other people tell you what to do.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: I know there's a lot of people in this crowd
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 4: that probably disagree with a lot of what I said today,
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 4: and listen, that's okay. We have the freedom to agree
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: or disagree with people. That's what makes this country great.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: But we're all human beings. I'm not perfect. I make
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 4: plenty of mistakes. I've made plenty of mistakes in my life,
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: and I've probably said things in my life that I regret,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 4: but I own it. And so thank you all for
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 4: being here. Five seconds. Thank you all for being here.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 4: Thank you James, thank you everybody for coming out. I
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 4: appreciate it, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 4: I love having good debates and I appreciate all you
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 4: guys being here. Thank you very much.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: What was that about email?
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just send me the email or not the email,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 3: the link to this. Yeah, I don't even know. I
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: guess he was trying to do an emotional appeal, trying
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: to carry a connection to her, to try to convince
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 3: her to allow people to live their life.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and again nothing that she was ever this video. Yeah,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send it. I'm going to send it
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 3: Oh if only you were a good person, Rachel, you
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: wouldn't want everybody to, I don't know, live in a cage.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: It's it's very like, I don't know.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: It gives me the ick, to put it mildly, to
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: basically be like, let me invoke a personal story.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: It's almost like making it impossible.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: To criticize him, or does an attempt to like, you know,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: I just shared a piece of myself with you.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 3: If you cared about your dead son, that's a new argument.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 3: If you cared about your dead son, you would agree
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: with me.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, that's the thing, right. Uh okay,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: I got a super child from Richard.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, No, that's all I had to say.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: That's a little yeah, it scummy.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: Richard Bier gives us five bucks and says something unrelated. Oh, thanks,
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: that's what exactly what we need right now. I have
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: been hearing ads from Waymo about how they're self driving
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: cars leading to a reduction or elimination of traffic violence.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: The thing that I have noticed is that as cars
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: get smarter, the people inside them to seem to get dumber.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: I would not use a weaimo. I hope those things
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 2: do not become normal. Okay, all right, let's get Oh
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: here's another one, lmao. Male feminist gives us five dollars
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: and says, I remember once reviewed we once reviewed a
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: Jubilee video about male feminists arguing with male antifeminists. I
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: recall Allison observed that the male feminists had not integrated
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: there a great I was not sure. I understood that
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: statement at the time, but I think I recently started
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: seeing what she meant. I started noticing that male feminists
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: used their aggression in a destructive manner, such as making
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 2: poor arguments with logical fallacies that make it difficult to
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: build social understanding. Confidence hierarchies cannot be built on these lies.
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 3: No, and they also apparently channel their aggression into looking
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 3: like they're about to jump over the podium and kill
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: and throttle this woman. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't feel very,
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: very modulated. And if he hasn't, Yeah, that's a lot
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: of anger he just swallowed. There, a lot of anger
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: at women disagreeing with him that he just put somewhere. Yeah.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 3: I personally wouldn't want to be wherever he put that
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 3: or around him when it comes out.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, not at all. But yeah, yeah, that's
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: what I mean by it. They don't like that, that
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: the anger at wait, Rachel Wilson, You saw that at
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 3: Rachel Wilson not agreeing with him. Yeah, that anger went somewhere,
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 3: but he swallowed it for this, this final epilogue. Someday
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 3: that anger is gonna come out, and you don't want
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 3: to be around when it does. That's what I mean
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 3: by they don't integrate it, like, uh, the guy who's
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 3: uh men's rights activists and a woman does something well,
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 3: usually like a men's rights activist isn't going to respond
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 3: to Rachel Wilson being like logical, probably appreciate it. The
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 3: whatever podcasts, like the guys on the whatever podcast watch them.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 3: They're dealing with these aggravating thoughts, right, and these are
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 3: annoying women who are overtly hateful, often incoherent, and have arrogant, pompous,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: self righteous, egotistical women, very unpleasant women. And I look
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 3: at those guys, they don't look they don't have Brian's
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 3: this leprechauns volcanic anger on their face. Do you see
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Brian. Yeah, they're they're watching these women
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: and they know that they're full of shit, but they're
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 3: not angry about it, right, They're just like this, this
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: woman is full of shit. It's actually sort of funny.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 3: They're not expressing anger like this man is expressing anger.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: That's the big difference. They're expressing maybe contempt for these
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 3: women's stupidity, but not anger or this kind of fury.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe not even contempt, just like they're just pointing it out,
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 3: and they're treating them a little bit more like they
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: would treat a man who is on the other side
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: of the table. This guy is furious, like murderously angry
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: at this woman who's disagreeing with him. Now you look
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: at that, and you tell me that the whatever podcast
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 3: hates women more.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that man.
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: Look at this man, how he's responding to a woman
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 3: who has the audacity of disagreeing with him. Look at
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 3: the whatever podcast men dealing with women who are not
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 3: only disagreeing with them, but disagreeing with them in the
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: most aggravating way possible, Like they couldn't be more aggravating.
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 3: And they're just sitting there like shaking their head and
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 3: being like what, okay, what that is the difference? And
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: you can't tell me that those men hate women more
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 3: than than Andrew or sorry not Andrew Brian here Leprechaun
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 3: here hates women And that's what he really feels about
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: women who do not agree with him, murderous fury, like
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: they shouldn't exist, they shouldn't be allowed to exist. Whatever podcast.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: It's just like annoyance, like just oh you and your
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 3: stupid thoughts. You know, there's a completely different register here.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 3: You know, that's something I pick up on. It's why
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 3: I knew Deadpool was bad news and this guy's bad news,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: and that anger that he had it went somewhere, and
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 3: you don't want to be anywhere near it when it
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: comes out again, because it's pressurized now. And he's put
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 3: all of the times that women have disagreed with him,
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 3: all of the times that women have failed to uphold
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 3: what he thinks women should be, all of that into
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 3: that little lava dome inside him, and someday some woman
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 3: is going to do something wrong. Bam. Yeah, don't don't
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: want to be around that. I'd rather be around the
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 3: whatever podcast guys because they've processed this. Yeah, they've processed
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: it its surface level. They're not letting it get to
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: them on that level. And it's because the whatever podcast
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 3: guys don't see women as this is what's happening. They
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 3: don't see women as narcissistic supply, like women are what
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: supports your ego or women are what deflates your ego.
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 3: This is how them this man sees women. So why
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 3: he gets so angry when Rachel is not supporting his ego.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 3: The whatever podcasts are actually more in a register of
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: recognizing that women are people, and people say stupid things,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 3: and you meet them at you meet them at their energy, right,
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 3: So they're prey. They are looking at those women and
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 3: they're judging them by the things that they say and
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: the things that they do. That is a man judging
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: a person. This Brian Leprechaun is looking at Rachel and
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 3: he is judging her based on how well he supports
• 2:06:02
  Speaker 3: she supports his ego, and when she fails to support it,
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: you see the rage. And then at the end of
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 3: all of that, because he can't jump over the podium
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 3: and just slash her throat in Minecraft, he just sublimates
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 3: it and puts it somewhere And it's like you watch
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 3: this process, Like I'm a woman, I watch this process.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be next to a guy like that,
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 3: Like I know he's apparently small, like a Leprechaun.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I don't know if he's I
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 1: don't know that.
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you don't want to, Like, if you're a woman,
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 3: you're always dealing with the strength differentially, you don't want
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 3: to be arong guys like that and women don't even
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: Here's the funny thing is I can pick up on that,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 3: but most women don't mm hmm for some reason. For
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: some reason, they think this man is saying the right
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: things and that means he's safe, and they're not noticing
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 3: how he's responding to a woman who disagrees with him,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 3: and the fact that he displayed, oh, custodial behavior. And
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 3: then he went into this like this emotional display at
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 3: the end and didn't even consider the fact that bringing
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 3: up her dead son is why would you do that? Yeah,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 3: And then he does this emotional display and you know
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: that narcissists and sociopaths can do emotional displays on cue.
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 3: He does this emotional display, so you can't be like,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 3: what the that'scuzzy because he's like presenting this authentic feeling
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 3: of tragedy. So now you can't call him out. It's
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 3: like I said a while back, Frearan, the the the elf,
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 3: and they have in that Faran's world, they have yeah
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 3: that say that's a call out for their mothers when
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 3: humans are trying to kill them. And then we ask
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 3: the demons why they do that, They say, because it
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 3: stops you from killing us. They don't actually have any
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 3: attached to these emotions, because if he did, he'd know
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 3: that bringing up her dead son, why would you do that, sir?
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 3: Like if he had a custodial attached, he had a
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 3: custodial instinct in his body, he would avoid doing that
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: because it's hurtful. But instead he deployed it, created this
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: emotional display so he can't be called out for it,
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 3: and then delivered his payload of you'd agree with me
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 3: if you cared about your fucking son. And then the
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 3: thing that she's supposed to agree with too, is like
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of confusing. You know, let women dash
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 3: themselves on the rocks, but make sure that they don't
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 3: get the sniffles, you know, like I don't know, it's
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 3: what an unpleasant human?
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: Ah?
• 2:08:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, uh oh, I see he gave us a dollar
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: and said on rumble and said he needs sandwich miners.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, apparently thanks for that.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's basically it. Unless no, no, I
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: think that's what well I was going to say, unless
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: you want to hear Rachel's like closing arguments.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, sure, let's do it, all right.
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 8: We can go over to Rachel for her three minute
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 8: closing as well the Floris.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 6: Yours Rachel very disappointing.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 9: We had no arguments from Brian whatsoever for why we
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 9: should believe that feminism has been beneficial for women and children.
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 9: He wasn't able to provide any data, any any sort
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 9: of measurement whatsoever to show that, Hey, before feminism, this
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 9: was what happened, and after feminism, this is what we got.
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 6: We didn't get any of that.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 9: What we got was a whole bunch of logical fallacies
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 9: and a person who doesn't understand what an argument.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 6: Is or how to debate. I'm going to list him
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 6: off quick, but join in.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 9: The comments on the live stream if you caught more
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 9: of these than I did. These were just some of
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 9: the fallacies that we witnessed tonight from Brian. Non sequitur,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 9: argument from incredulity, straw man and hobbinim category error, two
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 9: quoque fallacy, appeal to authority, argument ad populum, And on
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 9: top of all that, we got moral outrage, we got
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 9: appeals to your virtue and your emotions. And what we
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 9: got from Brian ultimately was the best argument against feminism,
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 9: because what feminism produces is emotionally incontinent, weak men who
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 9: can't control themselves, who have violent outbursts, will insult you,
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 9: will be angry and combative, and then try at the
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 9: end of the debate to bring up your dead child
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 9: and not even let you get through a debate in
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 9: a professional manner, addressing the topic at hand without crying
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 9: and bringing up your dead son, who you probably don't
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 9: want to be thinking about in the closing of a
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 9: professional debate that you're trying to get through. So when
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 9: he says, do what you want, man, follow how you feel.
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 9: Life's short, do what you feel like you know, just
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 9: follow what you want, follow your emotions, I would say, no,
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 9: don't do that. Find a strong, virtuous man in your life,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 9: who knows how to hold boundaries and protect you, who
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 9: can control his emotions, who can be the force of
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 9: strength and stability that families need that we don't have anymore.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 9: Don't be a male feminist like this. Don't be this
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 9: emotionally incontinent, just going all over on attention to control.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 6: Your thoughts, unable to control your emotions.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: Just speak Rachel Rachel Whoa Whoa.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 9: Appeals to people in the middle of a professional debate,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 9: bringing up dead children, bringing up your abusive ex husband,
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  Speaker 9: be the kind of person who can actually handle getting
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  Speaker 9: up here and having an argument, making an argument, sticking
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  Speaker 9: to the topic, controlling yourself and the fact that I,
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  Speaker 9: a housewife from the Midwest with no college degrees, no
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  Speaker 9: professional training, am better able than him to do that
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  Speaker 9: just shows you this is the kind of men that
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  Speaker 9: feminism has produced, and this is why society is all
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  Speaker 9: messed up.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, that's that is absolutely honest. I would get
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  Speaker 3: a gun, put a gun under pillow Rachel. Minecraft of course,
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  Speaker 3: he got.
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  Speaker 2: Cooked, he got fucking if feminized, he got like woo.
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  Speaker 1: But I I don't disagree. I don't disagree. So I
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  Speaker 1: want you to.
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  Speaker 3: I want people to look at this, like, look at
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 3: how he looked throughout this debate. And she is perfectly reasonable, right,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 3: and she's saying intelligent things. She's she didn't do ad
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 3: hominems until he started. And look at what the energy
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 3: he's giving her murderous fury and then go look at
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 3: the whatever podcast and the ship that they have to
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: deal with. And the truth is that them just not
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: even I don't even know if it's aggressive what they're doing,
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  Speaker 3: but just concise and explicit. You go look at that
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  Speaker 3: and tell me which of these men hate women? All right,
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  Speaker 3: hate a woman as a person rather than as narcissistic supply. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what I'm talking about. No matter whatever
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  Speaker 3: weird crap, the whatever podcast guys talk about about their
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  Speaker 3: relationships or whatever else. Just look at how they act
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  Speaker 3: with women who are are are being ridiculous, versus how
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 3: that Brian the Leprechaun acts with Rachel, who is being
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  Speaker 3: reasonable and just trying to be professional. And it's right there,
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  Speaker 3: that's right there. You cannot hide that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right, I think that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well I did. I did want to give you
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  Speaker 3: guys an analysis through the cognitive modalities, but I'm still
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  Speaker 3: once again the technical difficulties are screwing me up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you could post it in the discord and people
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  Speaker 2: can read it. That would give them join the discord.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's excellent, you know what, that's a
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  Speaker 3: brilliant idea. Okay, if you want to see my extended
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  Speaker 3: analysis of this discussions using my cognitive modalities framework, Badger
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to do the last things and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll sure, Yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's see if there's any thank yous to give. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: that was aside from like the just object lessons in
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 3: uh the difference, and he says he's not feminist, he's feminine. Well,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 3: he certainly holds women to the standard of feminism or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody who says saying you're not feminist doesn't mean anything.
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  Speaker 1: I look at what you do. It's like you said, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I'm not looking like. Men don't look at what
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 2: other people say they are. They look at what they
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 2: do and then they say okay, you're doing this.
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: He's he is. He's obviously decided to take the position
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  Speaker 1: that in the affirmative that feminism is good and without feminism,
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: women can't work or you know, go to debates or
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: speak in public or leave their house or whatever it is.
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: So he's obviously like taking that position. He believes it.
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  Speaker 2: So that makes him feminists as far as I'm concerned,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what you call yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, she, like I said, his his ego is
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  Speaker 3: definitely dependent on women playing feminism. Mm hmm. Otherwise he
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be getting this infuriated over it. And uh and
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 3: it's and again it's just a woman disagreeing with him. Yep, Okay,
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: it's not even it's not even been directed at what,
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 3: like the the actual things she's saying, Like he isn't
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 3: reading things off and saying, oh this is horrible, And
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 3: I'm I I can't stand like a Alex Jones kind
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 3: of thing. He's angry at her. It's a different kind
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: of anger, you know what I mean. Alex Jones directs
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 3: his anger at specific people. He directs it at like
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 3: things globalists. Yeah, the globalists, the.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: Globalist cabal for sure. And I'm you know, but not
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: like not.
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  Speaker 3: Like this, not not ad an actual human being. All right. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: we do. I think we got one from Richard. I
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 3: believe we read that, and one from I think we
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  Speaker 3: make sure we did, because sometimes you guys sneak things
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: through unexpectedly. Oh yeah, okay, that was That was the
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  Speaker 3: one with the integrated regression. All right. So a couple
• 2:18:16
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  Speaker 3: Uh so that's what's happened to her, different feelings, just
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  Speaker 3: anything else, and nobody I don't want.
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  Speaker 2: To yes show up in a giant like Lufa sponge Yeah, like.
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  Speaker 1: A just a tent with a hole in the top,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Like.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just waddle through the door. Yeah, I'll come in
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  Speaker 3: to burka. That's what I'll wear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wear a burka. That's perfect.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, the burka is not for it's not for
• 2:19:24
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  Speaker 2: If anything like Mayor mccheese from the old McDonald's commercials,
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: but it's just Allison, Like, I think that'd be great.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I do got a couple of super chats, so
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  Speaker 2: I want to read them and then we'll close it out.
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