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The Late Debate | 13 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Leens.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome, wait to pay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us for a
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  Speaker 1: brand new year. On the Late Debate, I'm James Macpherson
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  Speaker 1: with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. We've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: coming up tonight, including another day another seventy nine million
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  Speaker 1: dollars wasted in Victoria. Can you believe it? Of course
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  Speaker 1: you can. Turns out there sobering up centers are sitting idle.
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  Speaker 1: You'll be shocked at just how much taxpayers are paying
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  Speaker 1: per night, per person to use these things. No one's
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  Speaker 1: using them. When we get to the papers, Anthony Alberanezi
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  Speaker 1: is not that excited about meeting Donald Trump. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: he hasn't even set a date for such a meeting yet.
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  Speaker 1: And the Canberra Times reports that more than one point
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  Speaker 1: five million Australians has delayed seeing a doctor because of
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  Speaker 1: rising prices. All of that when we get to tomorrow's news.
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  Speaker 1: But first, it's no surprise to anybody that Victorian police
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  Speaker 1: are having trouble recruiting new officers. I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine why who wouldn't want to be part of a
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  Speaker 1: highly politicized police force that goes around arresting pregnant women
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  Speaker 1: in their pajamas for naughty Facebook posts like they did
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  Speaker 1: during the pandemic, And who wouldn't want to spend their
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  Speaker 1: weekends babysitting pro Palestinian mobs as they marched through the
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  Speaker 1: CBD chanting support for terrorists. So recruitment is a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a problem in Victoria for the police, but it
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  Speaker 1: turns out retention is just as much a problem. Numbers
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  Speaker 1: of Victorian police are moving north to Queensland, lured by
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  Speaker 1: massive incentives of cash and other riches to get them
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  Speaker 1: to work in the northern state. The Herald Sun reports
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  Speaker 1: that the ranks of Victorian police are under siege, with
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  Speaker 1: Queensland's force revealing that their twenty thousand dollars cash bonus
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  Speaker 1: and relocation incentives are successfully alluring recruits from down South.
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  Speaker 1: New data released by Queensland Police Service revealed Victorians were
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  Speaker 1: among the most keen recruits after an advertising blitz for
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  Speaker 1: the Sunshine State hit Melbourne in October. Now all of
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  Speaker 1: this at a time when local police job vacancies continue
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  Speaker 1: to rise. There's one thousand and eighty six vacancies for
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  Speaker 1: police in Victoria. That's up from oney twenty six, just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of months prior, Liz. I know it's a
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  Speaker 1: tight job market, so obviously there's a lot of competition
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  Speaker 1: for people in every industry, including police. But I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: that you would need incentives to get out of Victoria.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the economy is so bad. Plus the L
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  Speaker 1: ANDP government they're going tough on crime, you know, with
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  Speaker 1: their adult crime adult time. If you're a police officer
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  Speaker 1: frustrated by the lack of support you're getting in Victoria,
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  Speaker 1: with a bit of extra cash, it wouldn't take much
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  Speaker 1: to lure you north where you're going to get some support.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: Indeed, and this is the beauty of Federation, right. It
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  Speaker 3: sets up a competitive market for these essential services. So
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  Speaker 3: if you're a nurse, if you're a police officer, if
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  Speaker 3: you're any number, if you're an ambo, the list goes on.
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  Speaker 3: What a lot of people in the private sector don't
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  Speaker 3: appreciate is the public sector don't get to just put
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  Speaker 3: in for a pay rise. If you were a nurse
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  Speaker 3: in this state, that is your wage. If you're a
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  Speaker 3: policeman in this state, that is your wage. So these
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  Speaker 3: states get to set up bidding wars basically because these
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  Speaker 3: are the essential services.
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  Speaker 4: That all of us need. Who is giving me a
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  Speaker 4: better bang for my buck here?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not surprised to learn that Queensland is like, hey, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're doing very well out of Victoria.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, this is.
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  Speaker 3: Very concerning for Victorians who are seeing their own youth
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  Speaker 3: crime spree take a very stronghold in their streets as
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  Speaker 3: well as we all know at the moment, the Victorian
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  Speaker 3: police are lobbying the broke Victorian government for an extra
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  Speaker 3: dollar or two as well, because once the nurses got it,
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  Speaker 3: it sets off a chain reaction. The police so far
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  Speaker 3: haven't had any success, which just adds to the perfect
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  Speaker 3: timing of the Queensland L and B government saying, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: while you're getting nowhere with your pay dispute with the
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  Speaker 3: Victorian government, how about you just move up here. We've
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  Speaker 3: got way better weather for one thing.
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  Speaker 5: And you can hardly begrudge the coppers asking for a
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  Speaker 5: pay rise when they've seen the compatriots in other parts
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  Speaker 5: of the public service get a pay rise.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, how can you.
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  Speaker 5: Justify a pay rise for nurses and then say that
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  Speaker 5: the coppers don't get one, all the ambos don't get one,
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  Speaker 5: all the fieries don't get one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you can to.
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  Speaker 5: Open that floodgate, the water is going to flood through.
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  Speaker 2: We did right, And they've been in.
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  Speaker 5: Dispute, the coppers in Victoria with the government for some time.
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  Speaker 5: You've been down in Melbourne over Christmas period and you saw.
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  Speaker 2: The writing on the police.
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  Speaker 1: Police are graffitiing their own police vehicles protesting against the government.
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  Speaker 5: I saw this during the Spring Carnival when I was
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  Speaker 5: down in Mellow. This is at the front of the
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  Speaker 5: Flemington Racecourse. You know, we'd like to buy donuts, but
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  Speaker 5: labor as peanuts. I thought that was hilarious. When you've
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  Speaker 5: got the public service standing up against a labor government,
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  Speaker 5: you know something is wrong.
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  Speaker 1: To say it was they not least so in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: I saw ambulances had officers had graffited their own vehicles
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  Speaker 1: in protest that lack of government support the police. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't say much for morale amongst your public servants
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  Speaker 1: and especially your frontline workers when they're using their government
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  Speaker 1: supplied vehicles to protest as their only form of protest
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  Speaker 1: against the government, who.
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  Speaker 5: Were during the pandemic put on the front line and
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  Speaker 5: in many times used as shields when it came to protest,
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  Speaker 5: like literal police were used as shields between the people
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  Speaker 5: and the government. Essentially when people were trying to say.
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  Speaker 3: We shield we had fired rubber bullets on an armed citizens.
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, but they were requested to do that, but they
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  Speaker 5: were put forward during the pandemic. You've got to go
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  Speaker 5: and do the job for us that we as politicians
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  Speaker 5: certainly wouldn't do, whether it's walking around wards full of
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  Speaker 5: COVID patients, etcetera. Of course they want to pay raise
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  Speaker 5: and then you talk about the health. I mean in
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  Speaker 5: New South Wales where we're sitting tonight, psychiatrists are threatening
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  Speaker 5: to walk off the job is only would you believe
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  Speaker 5: in New South Wales and the public mental health system,
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  Speaker 5: there are only three hundred psychiatrists right, so if you're
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  Speaker 5: trying to rock up to a hospital in Sydney tonight
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  Speaker 5: with some sort of mental health episode hoping to see
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  Speaker 5: a psychiatrist, the chances are slim. Some two hundred of
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  Speaker 5: these psychs who are asking for it should be said,
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  Speaker 5: a twenty five percent pay rise, but they're paid less
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  Speaker 5: than the public psychiatrists in every other state, so again
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  Speaker 5: no wonder they're coming through and saying, well, everyone else
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  Speaker 5: is getting a pay rise, why can't we get one?
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  Speaker 5: Two thirds of them are now threatening to walk off
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  Speaker 5: the job. Now, the public will not.
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  Speaker 1: Walk off the job to resign. They're not going on strike.
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  Speaker 5: Because they can go to the private sector sent more,
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  Speaker 5: a lot more. Public mental health system in this country
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  Speaker 5: is in absolute disarray. And the stories that have been
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  Speaker 5: told to me by people who work within the system
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  Speaker 5: about the cases that rock up to public hospitals, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm talking the most extreme stuff that people have or
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  Speaker 5: have attempted to do to themselves, and they rock up
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  Speaker 5: to a public hospital and they cannot see a psychiatrist.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, what sort of health system do we have
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  Speaker 5: in our first world country? If a we can't pay
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  Speaker 5: our doctors properly to do the job to the point
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  Speaker 5: where they will walk out, resign on mass, and then
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  Speaker 5: you don't have a public health So.
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  Speaker 1: You've got two thirds of state psychiatrists threatening to quit completely.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they have actually already resignation, walked.
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  Speaker 4: Off on the twenty first Minister response have already resigned.
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  Speaker 1: The Minister responsible is on holidays in Japan, so she's
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  Speaker 1: not present to sort this thing out, and public hospitals
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  Speaker 1: are putting extra security on because they don't have psychiatrists
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  Speaker 1: to deal with people, so all they're left with is
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  Speaker 1: guards to stand up the door. It's just an unbelievable place.
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  Speaker 3: This is one hundred and ten percent the men's government's
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  Speaker 3: fault because this has been boiling for quite a while.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred and forty psychiatrists here in New South Wales
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  Speaker 3: already resigned, so the build up has already been extreme.
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  Speaker 4: That's an extortionate amount of.
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  Speaker 3: Such a very essential service and also very limited. No
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  Speaker 3: state has psychiatrists coming out of their coming out of
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  Speaker 3: their ears, so this is a precious resource. And they
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  Speaker 3: after the one forty left, the two hundred or so
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  Speaker 3: remaining have been so flat strap. That is what has
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  Speaker 3: driven them to this mass resignation. I'm good friends with
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  Speaker 3: someone who is a good friend of one of these
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  Speaker 3: sites here in New South Wales, and they were asking them,
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  Speaker 3: don't you feel responsible knowing that people could even die,
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  Speaker 3: they could take their lives because you guys have walked
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  Speaker 3: off the job, to which this person responded, the system
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  Speaker 3: is so broken already. We have decided as a collective,
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  Speaker 3: if that is what it takes to wake up this
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  Speaker 3: government to ensure that this just doesn't go on in perpetuity.
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  Speaker 3: You've already got people not getting the care that they need.
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  Speaker 3: If that is what it takes, that is what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do. Because a lot of people have just
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  Speaker 3: read this and said, oh, it's hard to feel sorry
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  Speaker 3: for someone who wants a twenty five percent pay rise.
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  Speaker 4: They are paid very well.
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  Speaker 3: Again, they're a precious, rare resources exactly, but what they
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  Speaker 3: were asking for didn't even put them on parity with
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  Speaker 3: the other states, where they can get well over more
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  Speaker 3: than one hundred k what they're currently earning here in
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  Speaker 3: New South Wales. So all they were really asking for
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  Speaker 3: was their dues. The Men's government has consistently proved to
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  Speaker 3: be completely tone deaf, and so you do wonder who
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  Speaker 3: among us would do any differently.
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  Speaker 1: I think about these stories. I always think the government
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  Speaker 1: was going to spend twenty five million dollars on a
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  Speaker 1: flag pole on the Harbor Bridge. So we can't afford
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  Speaker 1: mental health, but a flagpole for the indigenous flag, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we could do twenty five million.
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  Speaker 5: Novel is just obscene, particularly in the middle of a
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  Speaker 5: mental health crisis that we know we're facing in this
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  Speaker 5: country that the government state governments can spend money on
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  Speaker 5: all of these ridiculous things and they can't stop up
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  Speaker 5: the money to have an operational public health system. And
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  Speaker 5: wonder our countries in tatus And when we're talking about
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  Speaker 5: the public surface, let's go down to my old state
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  Speaker 5: of South Australia, where, far from having troubles with being
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  Speaker 5: able to get public service.
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  Speaker 2: They've got too many of them.
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  Speaker 5: Now I suspect these people don't work in the health system.
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  Speaker 5: In fact, the people we're talking about here most of
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  Speaker 5: them worked, or I should say used to work in
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  Speaker 5: the Department of Transport and Infrastructure. They have in South
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  Speaker 5: Australia one hundred and eighteen of what they call x
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  Speaker 5: SESS public servants who sit supposedly in what is referred.
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  Speaker 2: To as a waiting room.
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  Speaker 5: Now these are public service and these numbers are basically
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  Speaker 5: doubled in the last four years, from fifty one in
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty now to one hundred and eighteen in twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty four. So these are people who've been put off work.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know their jobs have been made redundant, or
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  Speaker 5: their roles have changed, et cetera. But for whatever reason
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  Speaker 5: they can't actually be sacked from the public service. So
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  Speaker 5: they are told, you just go and wait for us
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  Speaker 5: to find a job for you to do. Meanwhile, you're
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  Speaker 5: on full pay. I mean, how good.
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  Speaker 2: Does this sound? Where do I get one of these jobs?
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  Speaker 5: One hundred and eighteen of them, ninety four of them
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  Speaker 5: have not worked for at least nine months. I mean
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  Speaker 5: they've been at home on gardening leave. I don't know,
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  Speaker 5: they've been on caravan holidays.
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  Speaker 2: Doing whatever they want all week nine months, at least
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  Speaker 2: on full pay.
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  Speaker 5: Now, the average public service in South Australia gets ninety
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  Speaker 5: five and a half grand every year. Now, of course
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  Speaker 5: average includes teachers and nurses, so that drags the average down.
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  Speaker 5: So if we're to assume that you've made it to
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  Speaker 5: a level where you basically can't be sacked, you're probably
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  Speaker 5: well into the one hundred thousand dollars mark, and you're
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  Speaker 5: twe hundred and eighteen of them in South Australia alone.
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  Speaker 5: And I'd hate to think about the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: country sitting around doing just waiting for a job.
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  Speaker 2: And can you believe it?
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  Speaker 5: The government said this is to quote the Advertiser. Government
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  Speaker 5: officials say excess employees who for a variety of reasons
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  Speaker 5: are surplus to requirements but still have a job undertake
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  Speaker 5: different tasks. This has previously included helping with the COVID
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  Speaker 5: nineteen response and minor maintenance worm.
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  Speaker 2: So they're just sitting there waiting that life paying.
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  Speaker 5: Barry, Barry, we need someone to put a liquor of
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  Speaker 5: paint on the front of.
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  Speaker 2: The hospital today.
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  Speaker 1: Reckon, you can do it. Seriously, I love their definition
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  Speaker 1: and excess employees. A staff member who is surfl surplus
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  Speaker 1: to requirements but still has a job, Well, how do
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  Speaker 1: you have a job before surplus to requirements? This would
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  Speaker 1: never be tolerated in the private segment. Mismanagement and these
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  Speaker 1: public service that's not a problem.
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  Speaker 4: That's money.
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  Speaker 1: That's may money, and that's the problem. They've never had
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  Speaker 1: their own business, so they've never run a business, and
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  Speaker 1: they've never had to spend their own money or put
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  Speaker 1: their own capital on the line, and so you end
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  Speaker 1: up with wastage like this.
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  Speaker 4: And yet you should.
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  Speaker 3: Be using the taxpayer dollar even more sacredly than you
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  Speaker 3: would if you were running your own business, because at
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  Speaker 3: least then you're only throwing around your own money and
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  Speaker 3: taking risks. This is everybody else's hard earned cash, and
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  Speaker 3: not just the disdain with which they tried to explain
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  Speaker 3: this away, like South Australians are just stupid flogged who
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  Speaker 3: are going to be like, oh yeah, so they're access
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  Speaker 3: to requirements.
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  Speaker 4: But they've still got a job. They didn't explain it
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  Speaker 4: at all.
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  Speaker 3: You've got one hundred and eighteen bums not in seats
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  Speaker 3: doing absolutely nothing on full pay. But everyone in every
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  Speaker 3: single state knows that the number of excess employees when
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  Speaker 3: it comes to government are a lot higher than that.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
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  Speaker 4: What am I saying?
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  Speaker 3: I love it when it's about government, but this is
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  Speaker 3: we learned last year that one in five workers in
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  Speaker 3: Australia works for the government.
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  Speaker 4: Now, if you're essential.
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  Speaker 3: Services, if you're a nurse, if you're a policeman, if
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  Speaker 3: you're an ambo, if you're one of those guys, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You run the country. You are the backbone.
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  Speaker 3: We literally wouldn't be alive without you. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 3: all the people who are sitting in these bloated government
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  Speaker 3: departments that we know are doing sweet jack all with
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  Speaker 3: their nine to five. It used to be that when
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  Speaker 3: someone was in the public service, we knew that they
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  Speaker 3: were actually paid slightly less than the average person in
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  Speaker 3: the private sector, but they also did slightly less as well.
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  Speaker 3: Since when have we not heard someone say, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: work in the public sector and we all roll our eyes, right,
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  Speaker 3: But nowadays everyone knows these guys have never been paid
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  Speaker 3: more to do so little.
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  Speaker 1: And the next time you hear the government boast about
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  Speaker 1: how they've got unemployment down. Yeah, they've got unemployment down
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  Speaker 1: by having a waiting room where they pay people. Try
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  Speaker 1: it around. But I'll tell you what the economic figures
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  Speaker 1: look fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: It's the doll bear in mind, in mind they're on
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  Speaker 5: fifteen percent super public servants as well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, or actually it's probably more.
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  Speaker 5: Because it used to be when it was ten percent
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  Speaker 5: in the private sect, was fifteen and what's it now
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  Speaker 5: twelve odd percent in the privacy, So it's probably seventeen
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  Speaker 5: percent in the in the public sector now. But I
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  Speaker 5: used to sit we're talking about Adelaide. I used to
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  Speaker 5: go to a cafe regularly in the city in Adelaide,
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  Speaker 5: and without fail, every day at roughly three pm, there
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  Speaker 5: was a public service building next door. This same group
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  Speaker 5: would always come in and they'd sit there for about
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  Speaker 5: forty five minutes and have a coffee in a chat.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, hang on a minute.
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  Speaker 5: So you've probably had a one hour lunch break earlier
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  Speaker 5: in the day. You probably had morning tea and smoko,
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  Speaker 5: and now you're coming in at three o'clock and you're
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  Speaker 5: sitting here for forty five minutes gates bag and having coffee,
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  Speaker 5: and then you probably go back to the office and
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  Speaker 5: do fifteen minutes of emails and get on the bus.
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  Speaker 4: And go on.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say at parties when people say, so,
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  Speaker 1: what do you do for work? I'm an excess employee.
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  Speaker 1: I am so important that.
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  Speaker 3: Even when they have no work committed, do they They
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  Speaker 3: just want me to hang around They.
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  Speaker 4: Cannot part with me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Mark Zuckerberg's that Meta has decided that they are
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  Speaker 3: joining the list of companies that are trying out the
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  Speaker 3: DEI policies. Diversity equity inclusions suddenly doesn't matter anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Now companies have kind of made this cool of late.
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  Speaker 3: McDonald's done it, Starbucks has done it, Walmart, Ha's done it,
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  Speaker 3: Ford Harley Davison.
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  Speaker 4: The list wears on.
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  Speaker 3: So Mark Zuckerberg thinks, well, I'm going to get onto
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  Speaker 3: this too. So I'm announcing to everyone that I too,
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  Speaker 3: am ditching my DEI policies. Of course, I personally don't
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  Speaker 3: buy this for five seconds. This is the same guy
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  Speaker 3: who just last week told everyone that, despite insisting for
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  Speaker 3: years that Facebook wasn't censoring free speech, that Facebook is
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  Speaker 3: now going to stop censoring free speech. This is the
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  Speaker 3: same guy who allegedly stole the very idea of Facebook
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: from the Twins, who then successfully sued him for sixty
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  Speaker 3: five million dollars. This is the same guy who admitted
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: just last year to colluding with the Biden administration. He
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: admitted to doing their bidding. He outright admitted to participating
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: in mucking.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Up the campaigns.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: This was election interference straight, and he stared down the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: barrel and told everyone so. This guy is so desperately
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: in need of a pr revamp and image revamp. He's
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: even presenting himself very differently these days.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Physically, he's grown his hair around. He's talking to Joe Rogan.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: About how actually masculinity is a good thing.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: Of all things to talk about.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: It's one thing to say we want to be kind
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: of like welcoming and make a good environment for everyone,
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: and I think it's another to basically say that masculinity
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: is bad. And I just think we kind of swung
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: culturally to that part of the kind of the spectrum
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: where it's all like, Okay, masculinity is toxic, we have
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: to get rid of it completely. It's like no, like
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: it's both of these things are good.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: He said he's done with culturally newted aspects of corporate
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: America and is now helping lead the charge saying we
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: need masculine energy.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And I'm riding it all the way to gold.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Seriously, who is falling for this? We all know it's
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the Trump effect. Guys, lectus fingers. Dark it up in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the air. The winds are changing, and now he wants
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: to be in the cool club.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Would he be saying this if Kamala Harris had won
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the election. Absolutely not. He's of course sucking up to
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The irony is, if he had an ounce
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: of masculinity, he would not be sucking up to Trump.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: He would stand on his principles that he's a Democrat.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: He hates Trump, he hates all that Trump stands for,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and he wouldn't have that haircut either.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: You mentioned that right because you mentioned it before. He's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: had a total image. Even look at what Mark Zuckerberg
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: used to look like.
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, it looks like an alien. And suddenly now
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: he's got the curly hair and he's got the chain
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: out over the top of the T shirt.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: He's trying to look cool.
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: He's trying to put himself forward as though he's cool.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I think he's actually a bit jealous. I mean, look
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: at him there. I think he's a bit jealous of
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: Elon Musk.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Now massively, there's a positive side to this though, right
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: because we wonder how big will the Trump effect be
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: if someone like Mark Zuckerberg is going to go to
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: such extreme lengths. He's been on Fox and Friends, he's
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: talking to Joe Rogan. He must have hated that. Internally,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He's appointed a Trump official to his board. He's appointed
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a high ranking Republican to be his global affairs chief.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: He's given money to the Trump inauguration.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: And if he's going to all of this effort to
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: try and ingratiate himself, it just tells you how afraid
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the left are of the influenced Trump will have and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that many of them believe we better get on board
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: otherwise we're going to go the way of bud life.
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: And this is why the election of Trump was so important.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: You know, whether it's Trump or someone as it doesn't matter.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: It's what Trump brings to the table, his leadership that
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: has turned the culture almost president again.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: But if you were thinking, oh, who's running in the
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: United States, you're not thinking about Joe Biden. I mean,
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: he's already met with every world leader basically except for
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Anthony Alban Easy, He's met with Maloney, he's had a
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Trudeau came to well.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Before accident.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: And he doesn't want to meet.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: But Trudeau came down and kissed the ring to try
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: and smooth the waters over. He has been far more
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: of a president than Biden has been in four years,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: in the two odd months he's been waiting to become
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: the inaugurated president of the people.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Have to be careful here because obviously there's going to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: be a lot of victory marches over the next four
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: years of the Trump term where things like this happen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: These giants of the left seemingly come and kiss the ring.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The point is, never forget their true loyalties, never forget
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: who they really are, and that is weak, weak men.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: The irony of listening to.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg talk about true masculinity. You are the week kissed,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: week kissed person on the planet that you would see
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: supposedly change all your deeply held virtues and convictions.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: You clearly don't have any.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: And that is what every single one of these corporates
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: has done. Yes, we can view it as a victory,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: but they are simply doing it because they don't want
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: to lose money. They don't want to lose customers. They
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: are trying to appeal to their base. They have not
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: had to come to Jesus moment. This is not revelatory
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: in any way. It comes down to the bottom line. So,
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: like I say, just do not forget who these people really.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: That is the funniest bit of all of it, of course, right,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: because all of the useless idiot lefties have been running
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: around all these years saying, well, of course we're right,
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: because the corporates agree with us as well. And this
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: is the zeit guys to sit the corporates. I'm sorry
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: to break it to you, we're only ever doing it
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: because they thought it would make the money. They didn't
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: give a toss about DEI and making sure they had
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: more Asians than white people and more gay people and straba.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: They couldn't give a top.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: All they care about is that money is flowing into
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: their coffers. If they think they can do something that
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: will make money come in, that is what they will do.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: And that's all they were ever doing. They never actually
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: cared about your diversity.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: And it's beautiful to see how Trump is fooled by
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: any of this. I love the way Trump has invited
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd and Pennywong to his inauguration. All is forgiven. No, no, no,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: he just wants to give them front row seats to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: see him do exactly now, as nothing would be sweeter
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: talking about trying to understand people's convictions and where they stand.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: The Catholic Church is proving a little bit confusing. Last
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: year they started to bless same sex couples, though said
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that was not an endorsement of same sex relationships. The
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Pope last year complained that too many homosexuals were entering
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: seminary used an Italian word that was roughly translated. He said,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: there's too much faggotry in the Vatican, and of course
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: everybody picked up his violation of woke language codes. Rather
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: than addressing the issue that he was trying to point
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to is that the Church believes homosexuality is a sin,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: and yet there's all these homosexuals in the seminary that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was last year. This year, the pope is trying to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: win friends from people who will never be his friends.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: But he said this that they're going to approve gay
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: men as priests, but they'll be barred from quote, flaunting
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: their homosexuality, which CALEBN Liz begs the question, what exactly
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: do you define as flaunting homosexuality before you answer that,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've got an answer, But let me
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: review what the Vatican have said. They've least a sixty
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: eight page guideline specifically directed at persons with homosexual tendencies
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: who approach seminaries or who discover such a situation during
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: their training. So the Vatican has said the Church, while
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: profoundly respecting the persons in question, cannot admit to the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: seminary and to Holly orders those who practice homosexuality present
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: deeply rooted homosexual tendencies or support the so called gay culture.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So you can have homosexual tendencies provided you're.
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: Not two.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: One the word I'm looking for.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Camp, camp, camp, as long as you're not, mister Humphreys
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: in are you being served?
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Then you're five. I can't.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it says that those who practice homosexually.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't think you were allowed to practice any form
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: of sexuality. If you were a priest, you take a
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: vow of celibacy. And what they're essentially saying is, look,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: you know, we don't necessarily want gay people, but we'll
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: put it in the context because they're saying, if you
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: have homosexual tendencies whatever exactly that is that they must
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: grasp its significance quotes unquote in the global picture of
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: a young person's personality to form an overall harmony. I
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: don't know. This sounds like the stuff you read in
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: those corporate modules you have to do about not bullying
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: people and not sexually harassing people, et cetera. But they're like, oh, well,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: we'll look at it and go look if there's something
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: here that doesn't really fit the doctrine of the church.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: But we're desperate enough to get some more priests will
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: let you in any way. I mean, do you believe
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: it or don't you? Surely it's as simple as that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: I'm not a Catholic, but Surely if you believe in
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: the doctrine, you believe in the doctrine.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Or you don't exactly.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, it is that simple.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: And all my actual Catholics out there, we have got
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: to take back the Vatican.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Seriously.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: We all know Pope Benny should never have resigned, chosen
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: by God resigns. I mean, explain to me how that works.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Pope Francis has been a blasphemer in my humble estimation,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: since the day he was elected.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: For crying out loud, last year, he.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Decided that popes could bless not pope's priests, sorry, could
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: bless same sex marriages.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: I'm like, mate, have you even read the Bible?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, I remember having this discussion with Joeyldebran one
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: night live on air, and he said to me, with Storra,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: are you saying that you know more than the Pope.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I'm like, Joe, I'm as surprised as you are.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, it turns out I do. For crying out loud,
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: we are now talking about black and white biblical principles.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: You don't need to read fifty and cyclicals. You don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: have to go through the ancient Catholic texts of no
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: no This is straight out of the Bible, very black
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: and white.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: No question marks whatsoever.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I have a degree in biblical studies, so I can
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: read it in any language you like. Unfurl the dead
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: seas grolls. I'll walk you through it. And these people
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: in the Vatican have decided, oh no, this is perfectly fine.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Now you will even be able to practice. You will
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: be sworn in as a priest. You will be able
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: to administer the Holy You charrest while being just gay
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: in priests.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And the problem is the role of the church is
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to preach what they believe is God's word, whether people
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: accept it or not. They're there to communicate it, not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to win a popularity contest. So the pope here believes
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: obviously that this will ingratiate him with a section of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the community who might otherwise be very critical of the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Catholic Church. But count to five and they'll be saying,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: how could the Catholic Church suppress the natural urges or
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: tendencies of people by allowing them in? But then saying,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: but you must not be your authentic true self. So
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: the very people he's trying to impress will be nailing
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: him to a cross. Five minutes from now because they
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: won't appreciate this sop to the LGBTQ culture. Meanwhile, he's
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: alienating all the Catholics who believe in biblical truth because
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: no one now.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Knows he did that a long time ago. He lost
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: them a long time.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: I've told this story before, but a maid of mine
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: who's been a lifelong Catholic, he was the treasurer of
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: his local Catholic church for twenty odd years, is that
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: he'll never darken the door of a Catholic church again.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Whilst Francis is pope because he's too woke, he's just
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: had it up.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: You can't do it anymore.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: And I would say, again, as someone without a dog
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: in the fight.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: To whom are you preaching?
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're saying we need more people, because
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know, that's the only reason I can think
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: of that you're doing now.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: They don't.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: It's not like oh to wa'ts the point drastic point point.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Is popular, and this pope has always been about trying
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: to have the crowd applaud him and it never works.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: And Jesus was about the very opposite. The Gospel is
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: a short synopsis. He is like sob the crowd like,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: if you like the approval of the world, whatever you do,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: don't follow me.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Jesus literally said that. And the point of this everything
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: he does is eat whether.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: People watching agree with the Church or not. The point
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: is we want our institutions to stand for what they
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: believe in, rather than you know, always sniffing the breeze
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and think I'll go in that direction. Mark Zuckenberg has
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: done exactly what the Pope did, all the same thing.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: They sniffed the breeze. Move with that instead of standing
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: by conviction, we need politicians, We need priests, et cetera,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: et cetera, who have the courage of their con.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: The Trump effect hasn't made it to the Catholic Church apparently,
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: but one more place you imagine, I know, can you imagine?
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: But the Trump effect is playing out here in Australia.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: But because it's not the Trump effect here, it was
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: basically the voice effect. I said earlier on the Shari's
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: program tonight, the greatest thing that Anthony Albanezi ever did
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: for this country was setting up the.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Voice to fail.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Because by the voice failing, it gave us the ordinary
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Australians a voice to say what we actually think the
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: things we've been thinking for so long about the direction
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: of this country, especially when it comes to things like
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Indigenous affairs, that we don't want to be welcome to
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: our own country anymore, that we are actually happy to
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: celebrate Australia Day. And new polling from the IPA has
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: found that people are more ready now to say that
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: they support Australia Day. Their poll last year, and they've
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: been doing this poll for years about how many people
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: support Australia Day being on January the twenty sixth. Last
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: year it was sixty three percent of respondents said it
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: should be on January twenty sixth. This year it's sixty
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: nine percent. Now, I suspect that there are a lot
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: of people who've been sitting on the fence for a
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: while because they feel like they can't say what they
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: actually think, because you know, in polite company, when I
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: go to my dinner parties in Wallara or Balmaine or somewhere,
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: and I can slack Balmain now because I live there
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: amongst all the inner West lefties in Sydney, but oh
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I couldn't possibly look, you know, maybe we should change
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: it from January twenty six Now they're like, no, don't
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: have to hide this anymore. I do actually support Australia Day,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: and thank God for that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I think was the year that woke started to die
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: in this country, thank heavens. And we're starting to see
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: the results of that, including the Opposition leader Peter Dutton
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: saying that if he were to become primetill later this year,
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: he would enforce councils holding citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day, which,
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: of course, as we know, they have been canceling.
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: Would we reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: ceremonies on Australia You bet it'll be done the first
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: hundred days and it will be a sign of pride
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: and nationalism in our country. I want us as a
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: population to be united.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I don't know that might have been a bit of
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: policy on the run there, because if you look at
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: Michaulia Cash after he said, if he sort of turns
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: all that's good, that's good. I don't care if it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: policy on the run, because it's just common sense and
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: we're starting to see a return of common sense.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I don't have to hide.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: The fact I like Australia Day anymore. And it was
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: the same last year, of course, when Woolley said that
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: they weren't going to stock Australia Day year, and it
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: felt like a real turning point where after years and
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: years and years of being beaten over the head and
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: told oh, you can't suff at Australia Day, on January
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: twenty sixth people just sort of unashamedly came out and said, actually, no,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: we do like Australia Day. And I reckon last year
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Australia Day had a real reinvigoration.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I think we owe you know, Woolworth's vote of thanks.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I think we owe some of our elites like Ray Martin,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: who famously said if you don't vote for the Voice,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: you're a dickhead. We owe Ray Martin a great vote
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: of thanks. Those pit for support for Australia Day to
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: rise six percent in twelve months. I mean, I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: those guys should just keep on going, keep slagging off
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: about colonialism, keep hating on Australia, and watch support for
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Australia Day go up and up, because people have had
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a gutful of it, and we've seen these pro Palestinian
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: protests every weekend in our streets and people are literally
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: watching our country fall apart before their eyes. And people
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: are saying, we want to get back to the things
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that unify and unite us when I was a kid.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe not when you're a kid, because that was much
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: more recent. But Liz, you're a bit older than Caleb,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: not quite as old as me. Australia day you go
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to the beach and you'd wave your Australian flag. No
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: one was protesting, no one was going on about it,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: no one was toppling statues. It was a much better time.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: And think people want to get back to those times
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: where we just all were Australian. We all enjoyed it,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we're all proud of it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're celebrating the present day. But I've got to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: say this is such a gift to Dutton this year
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: because you've got the Trump administration roaring from the other
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: side of the world. We've seen populous leaders take the Netherlands,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: take Italy, take how many other Argentina, So many of
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: them are coming back into the West.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Canada is about to change.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: We're watching this in real time unfold in France and Germany.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: As people say we are sick to death of this nonsense.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Most of it is driven by far too higher immigration,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: and that has given birth to this resurgence of nationalism
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: in people who still love their country and want it back,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: and that.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Means more votes go to the more.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Right leaning major party in any number of these countries.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: And I think that this is Dutton already has the
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: playbook for his campaign written out for him, and he's
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: already playing it beautifully. This is what people want and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: we all know democracy in a nutshell, it is majority rules.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Whoever has the most numbers gets elected and they get
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: the power. And this guy is very much on track.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I think if he keeps up this kind of rhetoric,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: that's the first time I've heard an Australian Prime minister
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: even use the word nationalism for far too long.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Thank you Dutton. That was music to my ears.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Just before we go to a break, I think we've
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: got time to show you a quote from one of
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: the fire chiefs in LA. Of course, everyone's aware of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the situation in Los Angeles, those catastrophic fires that have
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: killed what was it twenty four people now dead, huge
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: numbers of homes and property destroyed, and of course there's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: been failures on multiple levels, but I'm just got it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Before we go to a break, show you this clip
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: from the LA Deputy Fire Chief. Now, this is Christine Larson,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: whose job with the LA Fire Brigade is equity and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: human resources boss. Have a listened to her and ask yourself.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Many wonder they've got problems with fires in LA and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: rescuing people haven't listened to this.
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: You want to see somebody that responds to your house,
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: your emergency, whether it's a medical call or a fire call,
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: that looks like you. It gives that person a little
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: bit more ease knowing that somebody might understand their situation better.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: Is she strong enough to do this? Or you couldn't
• 36:36
  Speaker 8: carry my husband out of a fire, which my response
• 36:39
  Speaker 8: is he got himself in the wrong place if I
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: have to carry him out of a fire.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I just had to show you that because we've spent
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: so much time tonight talking about Wokery and DEEI could
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: you believe a deputy fire chief in a city like
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles says it's really important if you're caught in
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the burning building that the person who comes to save
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you looks approximately like you. Otherwise you'd want to send
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: them back to the fire truck and say you've got
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: someone who's a bit more sort of you know, representative of.
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Beer bed or you're not carrying me out of this
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: fire now?
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Like serious?
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: And people blame climate chain for the devastation.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Is you've lost everything in this fire, right and guess
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: who comes to comfort you now? On top of everything
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: you've got to put up with Megan Markl. I mean,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: is there anything this woman can't make about herself?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Police?
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: This is the bride at every wedding, the corpse at
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: every funeral, the baby at every baby dedication.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Here she is in the thick of it, making.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Sure everyone knows that she Megan Markle has arrived on
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: the scene to hand out well hugs, maybe some maybe
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: some money would be nice. I mean, are you going
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: to put any of that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Shiggy where your mouth is or are you just literally.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Here to hand out hugs because you're a famous personality
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: so people must care. I mean this absolutely did my
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: head in when you look at the level of the devastation.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen any actual movie stars or rock stars
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: come out to behave like this, But no Meghan Markel,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Meghan Markle, He's on the scene.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: If my house was destroyed in the La fires, I
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: would rather deal with the looters.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Than you know what that fire chief should have said.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: I don't lift a man mate.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to a break. When we come back,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: we'll look at what's making news tomorrow, including Anthony Albaneze
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: very vague on when he might get around to meeting
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: with the President elect. And news that one point five
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: million Australians have put off going to the doctors because
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it's just too expensive. All of that when we look
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: at the papers in just a moment, Welcome back to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the program. Let's take a look at what's making news
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: in tomorrow's papers. We'll start with the Herald's Sun, which
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: has got a pretty alarming story. As they're splash. It's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: an exclusive Alarming figures reveal hundreds of Victoria Police members
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: investigated for alleged rapes, sexual harassment and family violence. Dark
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Side of the Force, reads the headline. The article says
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Victoria Police is grappling with accusations of sexual misconduct in
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: its ranks, as hundreds of members face internal investigations for
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: alleged rapes, harassment and family violence. The force's sexual offenses
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and Family Violence Unit has investigated about six hundred and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: eighty of its own offices during the past five years. Now,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: the report continues inside the paper. We don't have access
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: to that. We've just got the front page for tomorrow.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: But six hundred and eighty Victorian police serving police over
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: the past five years investigated by their own task force
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: over things as serious as rape and domestic violence. Man,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: that's going to shake your faith in the police force.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: And do you get stood down while you're being investigated?
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I mean if you are.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Literally you are the government's muscles supposed to be exacting
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: justice on the streets and you yourself are under investigation.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say it, but this reminded me of
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the stories that we were made aware of when I
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: was studying criminal law at u SID And you learn
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: where the cops earned this nickname by some of pigs.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: And that's how people, certain people, usually people from the
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: wrong side of the tracks, see them, because these stories
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: are something that you go into depth in criminal law.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: And I swear especially our lecturer was just trying to
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: make defense.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Lawyers out of us. All don't work for the crown, become.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: A defense lawyer like me, so that was kind of
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: this person's bent as they were lecturing, and I was
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: aware of that, but stories like this just bring that
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: back to mind, and I'm like, my goodness, And as
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I always say, when nearly any story comes up, you
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: know that whatever makes it to the press is really
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: just the tip of the iceberg. If that's how many
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: cases that they're aware of, how many of them aren't.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: And this is just one state, how many in the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: other states?
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: What the hell? And who puts them?
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: As you're talking about earlier that you know, the Victorian
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: police are in such a pickle at the moment in
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: terms of staff numbers.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: If you were the.
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: Police commissioner, you'd probably feel retis to tell anyone to
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: buzz off while we investigate, because if you start losing
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: more and more numbers, you end up in such a position.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: But you're being pulled in one.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: For us, the Victorian Police commissioner, I'd be taking a
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: trip up north to Queensland.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I'd be taking.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Twenty grand and I'd go there much less problems. Palatial
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: palace costs is the other interesting front page headline in
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: The Herald's son jetting jet setting rather Former Treasurer Tim
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Pallas slug taxpayers more than six hundred and fifty thousand
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: dollars during a decade of luxury travel in the top job.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Now this is the former labor Victorian premier who resigned
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: in December, leaving his state approaching one hundred and seventy
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: seven billion dollars in debt. But it turns out just
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: a month or two before he resigned, he spent seventy
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: two thousand dollars on a farewell tour of Britain, France,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Italy and Spain. And just before that, he spent sixty
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: six thousand dollars for a fifteen day trip to the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: US and Canada. Get this, exploring strategies to tackle debt.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Of course, he resigned just weeks after that lightning trip.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Great service to the Victoria taxpayer. Can you believe it's.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Tim Pallas not heard of the Internet? Here's this amazing
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: thing now where you can go online. You can read
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: pretty much anything you want anywhere in the world. Heck,
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: you can even talk to anyone you want, pretty much
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: anywhere in the world about things like I don't know.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Economics and how to tackle debt.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: It's like if you've got to get on a plane
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: to go overseas to work out how to fix the
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: problem that you created by spending lots of money to
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: go overseas. For God, the treasurer of Victoria, what do
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: you need to do going to Britain, France and Italy.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: You're not running their books, are you? I mean, for
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: goodness sake, if Pallace was running their books.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I think that's been kicking him out, deporting him.
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: What does a treasurer need to be doing that force
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: so serious?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: If you dosn't to the front page of the Townsville Bulletin.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Now you've heard of flying doctors. Check out flying coppers.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Five foo cops target city new thirty two million dollar
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: flying squad to crack down on crem's. A specialized state
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: flying squad will soon be deployed in crime hotspots of
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Queensland at a moment's notice. With Townsville suburbs set to
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: benefit from more eyes in the sky, I mean, that's
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: pretty cool.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I know that they have incentives for.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: People to go ruural, much like they do for rural teachers, etc.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: There's certain areas people just don't want to work for
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: rather obvious reasons, Townsville being one of them. I imagine
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: if you're a copper, quite a few crime problems.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: But now they're just literally gonna parachute him in. It
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: sounds pretty epic.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It's actually a great idea for a state as vast
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: as Queens And they used to have seventeen police on
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: this fly in squad. They've bumped it up to fifty
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: eight because of the increased L and P funding. So
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: if you've got a place like Townsville that has a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: sudden crime surge all of a sudden, you can bump
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: up police numbers by fifty eight. These especially trained officers
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: could come in to address a specific thing good for
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the community, a helpful local police. I think it's a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: good move.
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: Sounds fantastic. I can't believe no one's thought of it earlier.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: To be perfectly honest, let's go to the Olds tomorrow,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: where it says crucial face to face with Trump. It'll
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: be a journey to the summit. Anthony Albanizi has pointed
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: to the Quad leaders meeting that could be months away for.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: His possible first face to face.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Meeting with Donald Trump, as former Foreign Minister Julie Bishop
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: cast out on how long Australian Ambassador to the us.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Kevin Rudd will last funny about that. But he's got
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: an invitation to the inauguration and the Prime Minister doesn't.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: I mean imagine saying oh, we'll meet at the Quad
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: in a few months when he may or may not
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: even be Prime minister. He knows why and this is
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: the problem for him, right. He knows he's steering down
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: the barrel of an election. He is very much in
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: election mode. Darton's very much in election mode.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: He can't afford to.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Go overseas at the moment to say that, you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: I won't be here on the screens in Australia. I
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: might lose my prime ministership. You can't even go to
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: one of the most important events in the world. Yeah,
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: that worry.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: And he's saying maybe at the Quad. The court hasn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: even been scheduled yet, so he's literally just making stuff
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: very quickly. The Canberra Times have got an interesting store
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: in the front page. GPS call for larger rebates. The
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Peak body for doctors is calling on the federal government
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to lift Medicare rebates to address rising out of pocket
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: costs that disproportionately affect act residents. As the Albanezy government,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: of course ramp up a pre election scare campaign warning
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of coalition cuts now the camera. Time also reported that
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: about one point five million Australians did not go to
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: see a doctor in the last twelve months because they
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: couldn't find anyone who bulk bills and so couldn't afford
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: to pay the gap. So that's pretty concerning, but even
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: more interesting when you consider that Labor, as the paper reports,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: are ramping up this scare campaign against the coalition. They're
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: not doing great on health themselves. We're going to go
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: to a break when we come back. The Victorian government
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: started a sobering up center for drunken Victorians to give
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: them a bed for the night. Turns out no one's
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: using it, but Victorians are paying a mozza that's coming
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: up in just a moment. Well, Victoria continues to amaze
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the public. Drunkenness used to be a offence in Victoria,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: but then the Labor government, in their wisdom, decided drunks
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: don't need to sell for the night and to find.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: What they need is love and a warm bed. Provided
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that taxpayer expense. They stripped police of the ability to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: erect people for being drunk in public and instead ordered
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: police to take people to taxpayer funded sobering up centers.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: They built three of these centers at a cost of
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: seventy nine million dollars over three years. So how do
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: you reckon they're going? Do you reckon people drunk on
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: the streets say, oh, look, we'll go to a sobering
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: up center run by the government for the night. It
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: turns out, on average, two point nine people per night
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: are using the sobering up centers, which Liz means that
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: on current trends, victorians will be paying twenty five thousand
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: dollars per person per night to have a government funded
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: bed so they can get sober. I reckon the politicians
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: who came up with this were themselves in need of
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a sobering up center.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: They were drunk at the time.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: No, but honestly, what drunk have you ever been privy to?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: That is like, you know what, I'm going to take this.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Opportunity stop being drunk.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: But they're not so that they can't what look up
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: on the website?
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: Where are these centers? Where's my nearest one? Maps it?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Maybe catch an uber or stagger there themselves, like have
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: you not met any drunk people? They are not going
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: to do that, my goodness.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Oh and like public drugon when was the last time
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: you heard of someone being arrested for public drunkenness drunken disorderly?
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: But hacky, you're making a dickhead of yourself. You're going
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: to get picked up by the Hea.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You're disturbing the people.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: It wasn't even a problem in the first place. But
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: the Labor government of Victoria has lots of solutions to
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: problems that don't exist. Speaking of Victoria, the Victorian Trades
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: Hall rocked up to Peter Dutton's quasi campaign launch yesterday
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: with that three eyed fish who saw of course, when
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Dutton first said that he was going to bring nuclear
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: energy to Australia, he's the image here. Remember that we're
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: posting Labor MPs, etc. We're posting photos of this thing
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: online saying oh, this is what's going to happen if
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: you have nuclear energy. Albanezy todd to take that stuff
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: down and this is what the Victorian Trades Hall reckon
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: is going to win the election for Albanezi.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Again, I say to them, keep going, let's have more
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: of this three.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: I fish stuff, because if you think that's gonna work
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: you've got another thing.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I just love the fact they're dragging around a toy
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: made of petrochemical perfect. That's it from us, good night,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: but stick around. Coming up in just a moment, it's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the Reader Penny Show.