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The Bolt Report | 23 June · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Needs the reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight to pack show a shock judgment in the case
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  Speaker 2: of the two Bankstown nurses filmed allegedly making comments on
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  Speaker 2: their treatment of Israeli patients and multicultural madness some New
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  Speaker 2: South Wales teachers so they won't teach middles students about
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  Speaker 2: the Holocaust or even the diary of Anne Frank. Also
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  Speaker 2: tonight's stunning audio from the National Library exposing the lies
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  Speaker 2: behind the Stolen Generations claims and much more, including Matt Canavan.
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  Speaker 2: But first, there's a gold rule in politics. If you're
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  Speaker 2: under fire, don't blink, say you're say, and don't be
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  Speaker 2: sick ed of saying it. Because today the lying Albanizi
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  Speaker 2: government spotted exactly that weakness and pounce It was ugly.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't Pauline Hanson that it jumped on.
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  Speaker 3: No, the One Nation leader.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't take a step back this morning when she
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  Speaker 2: was grilled about her speech last week calling for an
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  Speaker 2: end to multiculturalism and for a monoculture instead, and again
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  Speaker 2: she made clear exactly what I said last night that
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  Speaker 2: she obviously meant we could all celebrate our own cultures.
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  Speaker 2: My clogs are safe. But the government's role was the
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  Speaker 2: Uniteds publicly around.
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  Speaker 4: Just one Nothing would really change, just that we still
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  Speaker 4: have our culture, we still have a laws like do
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  Speaker 4: we really want to see sharia law? Do we want
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  Speaker 4: to see multiple marriages? It's about being united, a strong
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  Speaker 4: under the one culture and everyone be treated the same
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  Speaker 4: under one law. I'm not saying forget where you came
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  Speaker 4: from or your cultural background.
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  Speaker 2: Now, okay, I might have explained that a bit more clearly,
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  Speaker 2: but anyone with brains and honesty would understand what Hanson means.
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  Speaker 2: But today today we saw that labor has no honesty.
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  Speaker 2: And as for the liberals, I'll get to them. Alban Easy,
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  Speaker 2: who has led about so much, laid again about what
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  Speaker 2: Hanson meant.
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  Speaker 5: Modern Australia is not a monoculture. Yesday Sunday I was
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  Speaker 5: an Assyrian function. It was a wonderful function in southwestern Sydney.
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  Speaker 5: You know, should that be allowed to happen?
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  Speaker 3: Albau, don't be so stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Hansen said nothing at all about banning Assyrians from having
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  Speaker 2: a party, and you know it.
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  Speaker 3: But Albaniz, he wasn't done misrepresenting her.
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  Speaker 5: When we look at the Sokkarus, we see examples of
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  Speaker 5: that rich culture. People who are proud of their ethnicity,
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  Speaker 5: of who they are, but also who are proud Australiant.
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  Speaker 2: Now I've dealt with this, this fake, fake counter argument before.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the soccer is show exactly what Hanson does
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  Speaker 2: want immigrants joining Team Australia. I'll interrupted the Taylor's second
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  Speaker 2: attempt and not answering the question watch and wins.
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  Speaker 3: Do you do support multiculturalism?
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  Speaker 1: Seems like a pretty stroke.
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  Speaker 3: You want to define it for me, busy. I just
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  Speaker 3: wonder if that's a problem for you that you can't know.
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  Speaker 3: We can have people from all over the world, right,
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  Speaker 3: that is not a problem.
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  Speaker 1: We could let me let me finish.
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  Speaker 3: Now you got me going here, so let.
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  Speaker 2: Me have a Let me have a We can have
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  Speaker 2: people from all over the world, of all races and
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  Speaker 2: religions in this country, but they must share those core values.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't want to answer about the monoculture and multiculture. After that,
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  Speaker 2: Alban Easy and Treasure Jim Chambers were off honing in
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  Speaker 2: on the weakness. Taylor revealed, being too scared to disagree
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  Speaker 2: with Hanson on a monoculture, but also too scared of
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  Speaker 2: the liberal left to agree the current.
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  Speaker 5: Leader of the opposition that when asked a question about
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  Speaker 5: monoculturalism four times, couldn't give an answer.
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  Speaker 3: This side of the House recognizes in Australian.
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  Speaker 6: Values the vast and important contribution made by multicultural Australian This.
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  Speaker 3: Districa not for this side of the House.
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  Speaker 6: This rubbish playing foot sea with the monocultural language being
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  Speaker 6: pushed around by the One Nation Party?
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  Speaker 2: Where's the new Mensis of the Liberals? Too calmly, intelligently
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  Speaker 2: and with authority, ran that nonsense right back down. Labour's
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  Speaker 2: laying throat that this is about creating one people out
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  Speaker 2: of multitribes. What Hanson is saying is not about disrespect
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  Speaker 2: people of the countless cultures of Australia, including my own.
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  Speaker 2: This is about building one culture that unites us all.
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  Speaker 2: And at a time when it seems we're falling apart. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the politicians in charge just gibber and hoot. Joining me
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  Speaker 2: is our Tuesday regular Senator Matt Canavan, now the leader
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  Speaker 2: of the Nationals. Matt, you have an Italian background, I
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  Speaker 2: have Dutch. But shouldn't government policy be do strengthen a
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  Speaker 2: monoculture that unites us all?
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  Speaker 7: Look Andrew, I don't like the word monoculture. I'd never
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  Speaker 7: heard of it before really until last week. And there's
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  Speaker 7: a bit of Pauline's interview you didn't play before. She
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  Speaker 7: said that she wants Australia to become like Japan. Well,
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  Speaker 7: I don't want Astraya to become like Japan. I want
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  Speaker 7: Astraya to be like Australia. We're not in the same
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  Speaker 7: if that's what she means by the word monoculture. We're
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  Speaker 7: not like Japan. The very strict enforcement of a single
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  Speaker 7: culture in Japan. It's a great country. I love going
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  Speaker 7: there and good luck to the Japanese. But that's not
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  Speaker 7: who we are. We prefer to say what we should have.
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  Speaker 7: What we should have is a common culture, a common
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  Speaker 7: culture that unites us all. As you've hinted at in
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  Speaker 7: your editorial, we do come from different cultural backgrounds, and
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  Speaker 7: Pauline herself so that today, so we have a form
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  Speaker 7: of multiculturalism.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I also agree that that word's been.
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  Speaker 7: Hijacked, unfortunately by the left, and weaponized to mean something
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  Speaker 7: it never was intended. I think when the concept began
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  Speaker 7: perhaps a few generations ago. So I've got no problem
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  Speaker 7: people celebrating their diverse cultural activities and practices. It's a
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  Speaker 7: wonderful part of our culture, our country. But what we
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  Speaker 7: do need is a common culture. And there is no
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  Speaker 7: doubt that the concept of multiculturalism has been abused by
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  Speaker 7: activists on the left to seek to raise our common culture.
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  Speaker 7: That's what we need to retake and defend. That's what
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  Speaker 7: I support. I don't want to see our country divided.
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  Speaker 7: There are things that in fact, there are more things
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  Speaker 7: in my view that unite us as Australians than the
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  Speaker 7: divide us by the different cultural practice. I mean, for
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  Speaker 7: the Prime Minister to you, so I went to an
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  Speaker 7: a serio in events all great, I mean it is
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  Speaker 7: wonderful to go experience different foods and different ways.
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  Speaker 1: Of doing things.
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  Speaker 7: You know, at a fundamental level, the Prime Minister is
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  Speaker 7: just totally wrong that that's actually not what devis us
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  Speaker 7: as people, because when you go to those sort of events,
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  Speaker 7: what you were marked out almost in almost without fail,
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  Speaker 7: is how family oriented those cultural practices are, how they
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  Speaker 7: all in some different ways, unite a group of people
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  Speaker 7: into a common as I say, common culture, common purpose, and.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we need to recapture.
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  Speaker 7: I'd say one more thing, You've given me a good time,
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  Speaker 7: and I appreciate you not interrupting me. But one more
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  Speaker 7: thing I'd say is perhaps the most poisonous thing to
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  Speaker 7: our common culture, our common values right now is actually
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  Speaker 7: not from outside. So something I don't think Pauline has
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  Speaker 7: made a strong enough point on. It's something much more
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  Speaker 7: insidious and the woke mind virus that is it is
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  Speaker 7: this creation of our own culture, let's say. So it's
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  Speaker 7: not been imposed on us play overseas or are some
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  Speaker 7: other people that inside our own walls is the greatest
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  Speaker 7: threat to our common culture in my view, which we
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  Speaker 7: have to fight back on.
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  Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with You don't have to defeat everywhere it
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  Speaker 1: pops up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, we I talked to an author of
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  Speaker 2: the Big History on the origins of multiculturalism in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: He made the same point. It was the left.
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  Speaker 2: Multiculturalism is a theory created by the left, not by
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  Speaker 2: immigrant communities.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you know the thing I was saying, I think
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  Speaker 3: what Hanson is hankering for.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, certainly, I am was the kind
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  Speaker 2: of thing that Norwegians of the World Cup have been doing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, honoring their country's Viking past, even those that
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  Speaker 2: weren't Vikings. Thank God, rowing even up the escalator and
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  Speaker 2: in the stadiums with Norwegian politicians have all backgrounds doing
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  Speaker 2: exactly the same in parliament.
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  Speaker 3: Every looks.
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  Speaker 8: I am.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I reckon that's healthier. It makes them stronger than any
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  Speaker 2: three flags of multi culturals. But I was just thinking,
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  Speaker 2: was watching that, what on earth would you do collectively
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  Speaker 2: in parliament to show the same cultural unity.
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  Speaker 7: I suppose it's oh, that's just awful.
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  Speaker 3: That's awful.
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  Speaker 1: It's part of our culture. Don't deny it, Andrew, That's
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  Speaker 1: who we are. O.
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  Speaker 3: God, I cringe. I cringe of that.
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  Speaker 1: One one thing, one thing I've actually actually hanker for,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew I do.
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  Speaker 7: I used to love when our athletes came out at
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  Speaker 7: the Olympics wearing dryser bone and we whmember, we we
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  Speaker 7: celebrated that part of our culture, that the stockman, the pioneer,
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  Speaker 7: our frontier heritage. We seem to have lost that too.
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  Speaker 7: We're now sort of there's a cultural cringe about that.
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  Speaker 7: Some people would argue, oh, that's sort of a colonial
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  Speaker 7: or they stole land and all this stuff and we
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  Speaker 7: don't have that now. Come in with bleed loorent polo
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  Speaker 7: sort of dress to a big events, and it's not
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  Speaker 7: really identifiably Australian. So I totally agree. I think our
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  Speaker 7: sporting fans are still like those Norwegians. The disconnect we're
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  Speaker 7: seeing in our culture and frustration is that they see
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  Speaker 7: their elected representatives unlike those in the Norwegian Parliament. They
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  Speaker 7: see their elective representatives have a cringe about Australian patriotism,
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  Speaker 7: about supporting Australians wherever they find them and doing so
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  Speaker 7: in a way that celebrates our country. Yes, sometimes above others.
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  Speaker 7: We've got a great, great culture in this country. That's
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  Speaker 7: why so many people want to join us, why so
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  Speaker 7: many people want to come here, because it's incredibly attractive,
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  Speaker 7: it's fantastic and as I've said since i've been leader,
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  Speaker 7: andrew everything that's wrong with this country right now and
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  Speaker 7: be fixed.
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  Speaker 1: But E think it's right in it. We just need
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  Speaker 1: more Australia and we'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Good answer now, Matt, better quickly do some serious economics
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  Speaker 2: and politics here before I run out of time. The
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  Speaker 2: government today boasting that has got to deal with the
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  Speaker 2: Greens and other compromise with the Greens that passes changes
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  Speaker 2: in capital gains tax discounts, negative gearing which led Angus
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  Speaker 2: Taylor get in the kick of his own areas.
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  Speaker 3: My question is to the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 2: In March last year, the Prime Minister said I don't
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  Speaker 2: negotiate with the Greens.
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  Speaker 1: When will you stop lying.
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  Speaker 2: And true to form the Prime Minister's soul? This tax
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  Speaker 2: hit Matt with a bit of class war against people
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  Speaker 2: who invest.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to this.
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  Speaker 5: Eas Austraians have nothing to sell but their time, nothing
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  Speaker 5: to give but their hard work, and that's how they
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  Speaker 5: own an income, that's how they put food on the table.
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  Speaker 5: And we want those people, those hard working stands to
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  Speaker 5: have the opportunity to own their own home.
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  Speaker 2: Matt, is he right clawing back these discounts for investors.
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  Speaker 2: It's much fairer to waigh journeys.
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  Speaker 1: It's the PM is an extremely diminished figure. Andrew.
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  Speaker 7: He's sounding more like Arthur Cole or there than Paul Keating.
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  Speaker 7: I mean it was Paul Keating that gave every worker
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  Speaker 7: superannuation accounts. And what the Prime Ister did today was
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  Speaker 7: to impose restrictions on every worker that has a SUPEROS
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  Speaker 7: account and what they can do with it. Because of
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  Speaker 7: this ridiculous deal with the Greens. People with superannuation now
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  Speaker 7: will not be able to access the same benefits that
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  Speaker 7: large super funds can by going to limited recourse borring
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  Speaker 7: to buy their own home or to buy a home
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  Speaker 7: for an investment that's often used sometimes in their retirement.
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  Speaker 1: Now big super funds can do that.
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  Speaker 7: They can expose themselves to leverage through derivatives, through buying
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  Speaker 7: into geared other geared investments. They're large, and this is
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  Speaker 7: the modern Labor Party risk large. They are all about
• 13:03
  Speaker 7: the big. The modern Labor Party supports the big unions,
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  Speaker 7: the big superannuation funds, the big corporates, none of whom
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  Speaker 7: are touched by their tax changes.
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  Speaker 1: The attacks that have come in this budget from.
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  Speaker 7: The Labor Party have all been on the small, the
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  Speaker 7: small business, the small farmers, the small venture capital firms,
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  Speaker 7: and yes, now again the small superannuation funds, self managed
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  Speaker 7: superation superinnuation funds which are now being tied down with
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  Speaker 7: the restrictions to try and force everybody in to a
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  Speaker 7: large super fund and pay more fees to Wayne Swan
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  Speaker 7: and his mates.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, on that very point that you make sex, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's one of those unintended consequences. I mean, Phil
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  Speaker 2: Curry of the finn Reviews said experts for telling him
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  Speaker 2: that this is a thing of the super self managed
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  Speaker 2: superannuation funds used by people women from broken marriages or
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  Speaker 2: whatever widows to buy property with that money. And now
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  Speaker 2: you know, here's a show called loophole cloth. Who'se Thank
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  Speaker 2: you Greens, Thank you Labor, Matt Canavan, thank you too,
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your time, really appreciated. After
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  Speaker 2: the break, Australians turn off Donald Trump as he acts
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  Speaker 2: like an oath again.
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  Speaker 3: But guess what he might just have.
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  Speaker 2: Caused regime change in Iran. Donald Trump is embarrassing himself
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  Speaker 2: in ways that you know, weaken the West. You just
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  Speaker 2: look at the latest Low Institute poll which shows Australian's
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  Speaker 2: trust in a most critical ally now at a record lower.
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  Speaker 3: No wonder.
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  Speaker 2: You just look at the past week how the US
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  Speaker 2: president seems to go out of his way to offend
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  Speaker 2: countries that should be America's strongest allies, but who are
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  Speaker 2: now leaving the US in the lurch. There's the President's
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous ego and his childish outbursts just for too. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I watched Trump last week at that seventh summit with
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  Speaker 2: world leaders and some tech billion His also in a panel,
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  Speaker 2: and he arrogantly slapped the table to get the attention
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  Speaker 2: of Sam Altman, who's head of Open Aye, like it
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  Speaker 2: was some lackey, to complain that Trump's chair was making
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  Speaker 2: him seem smaller, and that caused the Italian Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Maloney to roll her eyes, and Trump went on
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  Speaker 2: and on about it until Canada's Prime Minister to the
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  Speaker 2: right to the picture left. I think it is swap
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  Speaker 2: chairs to shut him up and get on with business.
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  Speaker 2: And then Trump also insulted Maloney by claiming she begged
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  Speaker 2: him for a selfie, forcing this fury of denial again
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  Speaker 2: from an American ally.
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  Speaker 9: Donald Trump's statements are completely made up. I don't know
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  Speaker 9: why the President of the United States behaves like this
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  Speaker 9: towards his allies. It is disappointing that he does not
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  Speaker 9: show the same determination with the enemies of the West, and.
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  Speaker 2: I can I wonder why Trump sometimes seems to go
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  Speaker 2: out of his way to make America's allies hate him
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  Speaker 2: while treating tyrants like the best of buddies, and now
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  Speaker 2: making the softer so called peace still with Iran turning
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  Speaker 2: against Israel instead letting his lapdog Vice President Jed evance
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  Speaker 2: treated like dirt. When Israel complains to Trump's peacetill stops
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  Speaker 2: it defending itself from attacks from the husband of terrorist
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  Speaker 2: army in Lebanon.
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  Speaker 1: Donald J.
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  Speaker 10: Trump is the only head of state in the entire
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  Speaker 10: world who is sympathetic to the nation of Israel at
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  Speaker 10: this moment in time, and he happens to be the
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  Speaker 10: head of state of the world superpower. If I was
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  Speaker 10: in the cabinet of the Israeli government, I might not
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  Speaker 10: be attacking the only powerful ally that I have anywhere
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  Speaker 10: left in the entire world.
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  Speaker 2: What a nicety threat and also a bit of a spear,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, plenty of other countries in Germany, for one,
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  Speaker 2: do back Israel. Now, all that said, I reckon Trump
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  Speaker 2: now does realize that this peace deal with Iran so
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  Speaker 2: called makes him look weak and he's letting that's because
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  Speaker 2: he's letting Iran immediately earn oil money, billion and in
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  Speaker 2: American dollars and is giving it sanctions relief or without
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  Speaker 2: Iran yet giving up the Iranian mid and rich for
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  Speaker 2: nuclear bombs, which is the whole point of the war.
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  Speaker 2: So even conservatives are attacking Trump, and it's now talking
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  Speaker 2: tough on the weekend. For instance, he warned that if
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  Speaker 2: Iran does close the straight over Moors to oil tankers,
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  Speaker 2: as it falsely claims have now done.
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  Speaker 3: You won't have a country.
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  Speaker 2: It's peace negotiators who are now in Switzerland won't even
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  Speaker 2: make it back to your effing country. And yet, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in defense of Trump, and contrary what you hear in
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  Speaker 2: the media, he might just have defeated Iran's more extreme leaders. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I know Iran is talking tough. We won the war
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to start tolling ships in the straight
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  Speaker 2: up of moors.
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  Speaker 3: We still want Israel destroyed, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But for all that, we are now actually seeing signs
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  Speaker 2: of a huge split in the Iranian leadership. The foreign
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  Speaker 2: minister and you speak of Iran's parliament. They were in
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  Speaker 2: Switzerland on the weekend talking to JDV because they want
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  Speaker 2: this piece deal.
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  Speaker 3: And the billions it means.
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  Speaker 2: But they have been denounced as traders by ultra right
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  Speaker 2: wingers at home. One cleric, a politician even went on
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  Speaker 2: state TV to claim the two men had gone against them.
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  Speaker 3: Wishes of Iran Supreme.
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  Speaker 11: Leader Masi Sadi han Adame Rizot showgeld Mozajang Mad Bushe
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  Speaker 11: Nadzu HASTI.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that clerk is now being investigated for revealing state
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  Speaker 2: secret documents, and the head of that TV program has
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  Speaker 2: been sacked. So actually, wonder is the supreme leader Moshtabo
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  Speaker 2: Komenae and fellow ultra hardliners and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard
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  Speaker 2: Corps really still in charge in Iran?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not, He's the true leader now.
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  Speaker 2: The more pragmatic I making this piece deal with Trump
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  Speaker 2: the Iranian speaker Mohammad A Galibach, Although then again, how
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  Speaker 2: moderate is he really? Bla omri ko my bar, omedy
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  Speaker 2: kol my ba, lombo my ba.
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  Speaker 12: That's wrong, my.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever I mean?
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Galibav does talk a big talk, but I guess he
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: feels he must perform for the cameras otherwise he might
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: be killed. But there is now a power struggle among
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: her own's leaders, even if the West doesn't think much
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of America's leader either. I was joined earlier by Sean Spicer,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's first White House spokesman, Sewn Spicer always great
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: to see you, Donald Trump. In the past couple of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: weeks seems to be even more bolshi or whatever it is.
• 19:43
  Speaker 13: What is it?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: A guy that's picking fights with the leaders.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Of Britain and France and Germany and Italy and on
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: it goes.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: What's going on.
• 19:56
  Speaker 14: I don't think each one probably can be explained in
• 19:59
  Speaker 14: its own context. I don't want to paint a broad brush,
• 20:02
  Speaker 14: but I will say that one of the things that's
• 20:03
  Speaker 14: really interesting to me Andrew is for decades, as long
• 20:06
  Speaker 14: as America sat back and pick up the tab for
• 20:09
  Speaker 14: its European friends, everybody was happy. As soon as we
• 20:12
  Speaker 14: started calling balls and strikes making it clear that they
• 20:15
  Speaker 14: weren't living up to their NATO obligations, everyone started questioning
• 20:19
  Speaker 14: the relationship. So, you know, I just find it interesting
• 20:23
  Speaker 14: that we're all good, happy friends as long as America
• 20:26
  Speaker 14: is doing its role picking up the tab for the
• 20:28
  Speaker 14: European incursions, protecting them, covering all the military aspects of
• 20:32
  Speaker 14: their security. As soon as we start holding them accountable
• 20:36
  Speaker 14: and calling them out when we need their assistance, it's
• 20:40
  Speaker 14: what are we doing to undermine the friendship? And I
• 20:43
  Speaker 14: just I'm not really sure that we're appreciating the reality
• 20:48
  Speaker 14: of how this relationship has gone.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Anytime that people say, oh, Donald Trump is terrible and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah, you know, I told you not to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: back you at the last selection, I have to say,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: it is a zero sum guy. And do you really
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: want the Democrats Kamala Harris to have won instead? Because
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: look at this from last week, Sean, is this the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: woman who would stand out to the wist enemies have?
• 21:11
  Speaker 15: Look, we each have light inside of us, and we
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: need to know that that is what inspires our hope
• 21:19
  Speaker 15: as much as anything external to ourselves. Let that light
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: kind of carry some particular through moments of darkness, that
• 21:27
  Speaker 15: we not only act on that hope, but we inspire
• 21:31
  Speaker 15: that hope in each other.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, dear God, dear God.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is a woman who says she's considering
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: running for president again.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, seriously, give me Trump any day.
• 21:46
  Speaker 14: But look at Don Lemon his face, the interviewer in
• 21:49
  Speaker 14: that which is unbelievably sympathetic work.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Even he was like, what the heck are you saying?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: I literally think if you asked Chad Gpt to say,
• 22:00
  Speaker 14: create a Kamala Harris word salad, it couldn't do as
• 22:03
  Speaker 14: good as that. I mean, you're right, number one, you've
• 22:07
  Speaker 14: got to remember what the alternative is. But I would
• 22:09
  Speaker 14: argue that as I said earlier. Beyond that, it's just
• 22:12
  Speaker 14: it's a question of how long is America and American
• 22:16
  Speaker 14: taxpayers supposed to continue to just sit back and do nothing.
• 22:19
  Speaker 14: Because I guarantee you Kamala Harris wouldn't be standing up
• 22:21
  Speaker 14: to any of these people. She can't stand up to
• 22:23
  Speaker 14: Don Lemon, she can't give a coherent answer to anything.
• 22:26
  Speaker 14: So I you know, I agree with you, but I
• 22:28
  Speaker 14: also think we need to have a little bit more
• 22:31
  Speaker 14: of a backbone when it comes to standing up for
• 22:33
  Speaker 14: what our interests are.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: I keep saying that one of Donald Trump's greatest achievements
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: is to get Europe to find his stick, his hands
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: in his pocket and start paying for defense.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Its own defense. I mean, it's extraordinary.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Is a country with you know, six hundred million people,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: America's a three fifty million, and America is supposed to
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: defend them?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You know, get real Sean, the around deal. How do
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you think it's playing out?
• 23:00
  Speaker 14: So count me as one of these people that's very
• 23:02
  Speaker 14: skeptical of Iran. I wouldn't trust them as far as
• 23:05
  Speaker 14: I probably could throw them farther and I would trust them.
• 23:08
  Speaker 14: How's that I don't believe anything they say that being said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 14: I do think that the Vice President and the team
• 23:14
  Speaker 14: is going in eyes wide open, which is to say,
• 23:17
  Speaker 14: we need to verify every single thing that they do.
• 23:20
  Speaker 14: We cannot reward them until they perform for that reward,
• 23:24
  Speaker 14: meaning that we don't give them anything in advance of performance.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's the right call.
• 23:29
  Speaker 14: There's an alter I mean, you mentioned the alternative a
• 23:31
  Speaker 14: moment ago, Andrew with respect to our last election. I
• 23:35
  Speaker 14: would argue that we also have to look at what
• 23:37
  Speaker 14: the alternative is. In the Iran situation. We could just
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: keep bombing them. I'm not actually opposed to that, but
• 23:43
  Speaker 14: I do believe at some point, if they're willing to
• 23:46
  Speaker 14: come to the table and do the things that the
• 23:48
  Speaker 14: administration claims that they're willing to do, which is one
• 23:52
  Speaker 14: not seek enrichment of a nuclear weapon, to not fund
• 23:55
  Speaker 14: proxies that support terrorism, I'm at least willing to try,
• 24:00
  Speaker 14: and I think that we have to be willing to
• 24:02
  Speaker 14: do that. However, as the Vice President anounced this morning
• 24:05
  Speaker 14: that we'll have you an inspectors in again, will they
• 24:08
  Speaker 14: be allowed to actually come in at a time in
• 24:11
  Speaker 14: place of their choosing to go where they want to
• 24:14
  Speaker 14: inspect all the things?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: If that's the case.
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: I'm for it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 14: If Iran is just paying lip service to all of
• 24:19
  Speaker 14: these talking points, then it's not worth going to any further,
• 24:23
  Speaker 14: and then we need to hold them accountable. But I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 14: at least willing to give the administration the benefit of
• 24:28
  Speaker 14: the doubt and to try to get peace, to try
• 24:31
  Speaker 14: to make us a safer world.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Well, I think that's true.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I find a very interesting in the splits of the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Iranian regime at the moment, which does suggest that some
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of the hardliners do not trust this speaker of the
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Iranian Parliament, Gallibaf, who breathes fire but is making deals
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that well might lead to what you say. We shall
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: say Jean Spice to thank you so much.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: For your time.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Andrew thank you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Tapes along kept in the National Library.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, they show by the Stolen Generations as a mefil
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: play you some disturbing excerpts. Now for nearly thirty years
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: for perhaps the deadliest myth ever told in this country.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: You can tell.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I've done, and tonight I'm going to play three
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: recordings of found in our National Library that I'm starting
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: to being quoted nowhere nowhere that I've heard because they
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: explode this myth that's spread by academics and activists and
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: and a certain grand standing Prime minister that Australia is
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: so racist that it stole generations of children just because
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: they were Aboriginal.
• 25:43
  Speaker 16: We apologize for the laws and policies of successive parliaments
• 25:47
  Speaker 16: and governments that have inflicted profound grief, suffering and loss
• 25:53
  Speaker 16: on these our fellow Australians. We apologize especially for them
• 26:00
  Speaker 16: of Aboriginal and Torrest Right Island are children from their families.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: An inquiry by the Human Rights Commission even claimed that
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: there'd been a genocide one in three children removed, a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: totally fictitious claim based on the misreading of a survey
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: in just one town, Burke, a surveyed by a doctor
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: who in fact found just nine children there forcibly removed,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: all from parents who were hopeless alcoholics.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: But strange thing.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: For a couple of decades, I have issued a very
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: public challenge these one hundred thousand stolen children, the Human
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Rights Commission claims were stolen. Name just ten, Name just
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: ten children supposedly stolen from their parents simply for being Aboriginal,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: and not because they were in danger or abandoned or
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: sent away for schooling.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Now many have tried and all have failed, which is why.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Repeated attempts to get speech police to muzzle me have failed.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Nor have the courts found such people. So why were
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: some Aboriginal children removed? Well, let's now go to these
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: tapes recording to the National Library did twenty six years
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: ago of church missionaries interviewing them. Now, if there really
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: was a genocide, these were supposedly the Nazis. Except listen
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to their stories and the truth that Strong Generations activists
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: never tell. The first Grabel plays from an interview with
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Sister Eileen Heath. She was an Anglican deaconess who ran
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the famous Saint Mary's Home in Alice Springs in the
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, and she said she'd never had a child
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: there who'd been stolen.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Instead, she'd dealt with what were then called.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Half caste children who'd been rejected for that by their tribes,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: along with their mothers.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: An apology for this truth bomb, the.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: Child was definitely asked rejected because the mother in many cases,
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: had been promised from almost from birth to a white
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: or to a color of black Aboriginal and because she'd
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: broken her the rules.
• 28:16
  Speaker 17: She was.
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: Rejected and very often ill treated, and the children were
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: often ill treated to you, and the children, some of
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: them were so neglected health wise that they simply had
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: to be taken away for their own good. They'd have
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: died a lot of them if they'd remained in the camps.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Over in West Australia missionary missionaries Avon and desly Moyle.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: They were also interviewed and asked about their work in
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies and eighties with Aboriginal children at Norseman
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Mission and then at Roland's Village, and what they describe
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: is even more horrific.
• 29:00
  Speaker 17: We looked after, for instance, one boy that had been
• 29:04
  Speaker 17: left on an ant hill to die, and a nursing
• 29:10
  Speaker 17: sister had happened to visit the community looking for him,
• 29:14
  Speaker 17: and she found him on the ant heap, just alive
• 29:17
  Speaker 17: with ants. There was another girl that we looked after
• 29:21
  Speaker 17: whose mum had been murdered. She'd seen her mum murdered,
• 29:27
  Speaker 17: and she lived in a town out of Calgirley, but
• 29:32
  Speaker 17: she was nobody's responsibility, and so she would go and
• 29:38
  Speaker 17: live with this one and that one, and they would
• 29:39
  Speaker 17: look after for a while and send her on her way.
• 29:44
  Speaker 18: She was only four years old when she came into Cares.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I've heard and read many such interviews. To say such
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: children were stolen is a lie. Is anyone really saying
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: that the Moyles should not have helped children like these?
• 30:01
  Speaker 17: It seemed to us that they were not getting a
• 30:03
  Speaker 17: fair go where they were. Children were suffering, and they
• 30:08
  Speaker 17: used to come in starving, dirty, unkempt, not having gone
• 30:18
  Speaker 17: to school for weeks and weeks at a time.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Now, the Moles and Sister he did not deny that
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: conditions in some homes back then were simply not good enough.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Not enough authorities cared. But these people and many liked them,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: like Sister Rutter and Sister Hyde over in South Stro's
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: colbroo Combe, they were heroes, and some women that they
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: helped when they were children publicly paid tribute, like Faith Thomas,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: later a bowler with our women's test team.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Had I not been in Colebrook, I would never have
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: got the opportunities that I did have.
• 30:53
  Speaker 17: So I consider myself not stolen, but chosen.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Now I said the Solent generation Smith was deadly, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: it is because I have reported on Aboriginal children who
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: were not removed for fear of supposedly repeating this. Stolen
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Generations children then died or were removed from white cares
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: for the same reasons, sent back bush and were raped.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: But you've now heard recordings from people who were there
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: who tell of saving children from death. We should say
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: sorry that they even helped. Was joined a bit earlier
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: by Gary Johns, a former federal labor minister, head of
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the Closing the Gap research and author of the Burden
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of Culture How to Dismantle the Aboriginal Industry and give
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Hope to its victims. Gary John's great to see you again.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: The Stolen Generation's story. How damaging has that been?
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: Awfully damaging to children who need to be taken into care.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: This is the question.
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: We shouldn't be hesitating to take children who need the
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: safety of being taken from their families into care. But
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: because of the sort of myth of the Stolen Generations,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: we're simply not doing our job.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, the former Chief Justice of West Australia had warned
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: about that years ago, and health and protection experts in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Northern Territory same thing. And yet you know when it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: so obvious, and when you see cases of children who
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: have not been removed or in fact some being sent
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: back to the communities. One childhood been pack raped in
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Eric and then sent back to Ariican because she was
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: with white carers, pack raped again. Why has it been
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: so important to maintain the stolen generation story? To what
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: so important to the Aboriginal industry.
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I think there are some very large organizations. Now
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: there's one Snai double c Snake, which is the voice
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: of Aboriginal people and it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Insists on the child.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: The Aboriginal child placement principle for instance, so the child
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: should never be taken from an Aboriginal family or kith
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: or kin unless as a last resort. What it means
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: is that people are constantly looking to keep a child
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: in the community of culture, no matter if they're being beaten.
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: So I see in Northern Territory, the Northern Territory government
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: very sensibly is downgrading if you're like that child placement
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: principle and placing it at the very top of the
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: order the best interests of the child, so you can
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: take into account the context of the child's life. But
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: if you need to save a child's life, and the
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: only way to do that is to take the child
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: from the family and from the community. That's what you
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: should do, and the stolen Generation's myth is preventing good
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: work from being undertaken.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: I also think.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: It's ignoring the fact that so many children we're talking
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: about have both European or non Aboriginal ancestry as well
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: as Aboriginal ancestry. I'm not sure why their Aboriginal ancestry
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: is seen as the decisive one. Why you know, there
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: can't be some allows made for the fact that they
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: also have non Aboriginal ancestors and culture that they could
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: be immersed in.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: But what about the.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Damage gary to our national pride? I mean, we've now
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: seen generations of children led to believe that this is
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: such a cruel and racist country that we actually did
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: steal Abaginal children for no other reason than the fact
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: they were Aboriginal. And we're talking about school children being shown,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: for instance, the rabbit Proof Fence, which in my opinion,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: falsely claims to be a true story of a child
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: stolen permission from a community where she was in no
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: danger at all. The evidence that I've found and exposed
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: is the exact opposite. There the damage done to our
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: pride that also is a cost.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Isn't it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: An immense cost to our pride but also to the
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: way we manage our relations with Aboriginal people. So we
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: are taking fewer children into care now than we would otherwise. Okay,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: whin the missionaries did good work. They are protecting Averages
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: from the worst of the European society, but they are
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: also preparing Aboriginal people for the European society, the only
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: society which could possibly succeed.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And we've stopped that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: We've made Australians feel angry and grousey that somehow we've
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: done the wrong thing in the past. The only thing
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: we've done wrong in the last fifty years is to
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: ignore the fact that we must prepare Aboriginal people to
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: come into the modern society, and most of them have.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: You know, eighty percent of Aboriginal people people of Aboriginal
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: descent live well in the society. But it's that last
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: twenty percent, mainly in remote communities, who are being sat
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: out there outside of the economy and told to live
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: a culture, and it's killing them.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: There will be some communities that are doing very well,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: but clearly the statistics on hospitalization of children and women
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: from domestic violence. Things like that show that it is
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: much worse in a number of remote communities and that's
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: where some of the problems really are profound.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Gary Johns, thank you so much for your time. Really
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: appreciate it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: After the break, the banksound nurses get a win in
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a shop call on the video that showed them allegedly
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: talking about Israeli patience.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Incredible.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: A judge in New South Wales today ruled that a
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: video that went viral showing two Sydney nurses allegedly threatening
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Israeli patients can't be used against.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Them in the nurses trial.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I mean we all saw it, or most of us,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the video in which these nurses allegedly said on an
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: online chat service to an Israeli blogger he said what
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: they said about Israeli patients of Bankstown Hospital. In fact,
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: they were stood down from their jobs and have even
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: been charged with using a carriage service or harass menis
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: or offend. The woman, Sarah Abu lb there has also
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: been charged with threatening violence to a group. Now both
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: plead not guilty and the judge day said well no
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: to the use of the video of them. It was
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: illegal to record a private conversation or activity without the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: consider of the parties involved. So this video can't now
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: be evidence a video of chat and an online service
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: that matches people randomly join me. Amir Schlick, the executive
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: director the Samuel Griffiths Society, and Michael daan Be, former
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: federal labor politician and chairman back then the Joint Standing
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Michael, you heard the video. I heard the video.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Jews everywhere heard the video. The nurses bosses and the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Healthy Minister heard the video.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: But the colt may not. They may not hear it
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: fair enough.
• 38:25
  Speaker 18: No things seem to be going in certain directions. Andrew,
• 38:29
  Speaker 18: you know there's blokes who are freed after burning liquor
• 38:33
  Speaker 18: stores to participate in machete attacks at Flinder Street Station.
• 38:38
  Speaker 18: Judges rule against the police that people are allowed to
• 38:42
  Speaker 18: take over the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Look, the public has a view on these things.
• 38:48
  Speaker 18: I think this nurses thing that they saw, whether the
• 38:51
  Speaker 18: judge likes it a lot publicly, and the isis brides
• 38:58
  Speaker 18: and particularly the events in in BONDI all create a
• 39:02
  Speaker 18: package that make people critical of high migration. Just as
• 39:07
  Speaker 18: Barnaby Joyce has said, I agree with him. That's the
• 39:11
  Speaker 18: thing that's informing the shift in public opinion. So you
• 39:14
  Speaker 18: may not see it in court, but it's certainly affecting
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  Speaker 18: Australian opinion.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, Mia, I guess the law is
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  Speaker 2: the law, but wow, I'm not sure that that is
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  Speaker 2: how most people would want the case to be heard
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  Speaker 2: without that video, whether they're innocent or not. It would
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  Speaker 2: be useful to find one way or the other.
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  Speaker 12: Well, and I think you're right in saying that, yes,
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: the law is the law, but it's also important to
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: point out that in this scenario, this judge did have discretion.
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  Speaker 13: This judge did have to.
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  Speaker 12: Weigh up competing interests here, and I think you're also
• 39:55
  Speaker 12: right to point out that the decision this case probably
• 39:58
  Speaker 12: doesn't align with public expects. It certainly doesn't align with
• 40:01
  Speaker 12: my public expect my expectation of what the court should
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  Speaker 12: have decided in this scenario. But here we have a
• 40:06
  Speaker 12: judge who had to weigh up the weight of privacy
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  Speaker 12: laws versus are the importance of hearing this video in court.
• 40:13
  Speaker 12: At the end of the day, he could have decided that,
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  Speaker 12: regardless of the problem of how the video was obtained,
• 40:18
  Speaker 12: it was too important to the Administration of Justice that
• 40:21
  Speaker 12: this video was heard. However, the judge decided not to
• 40:24
  Speaker 12: use his discretion in that way, and I think Michael
• 40:27
  Speaker 12: is right to point out that this is a continuous
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  Speaker 12: trend that we see in the courts of the moment.
• 40:32
  Speaker 12: We are seeing a number of judges who are making
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: decisions that consistently depart from public expectations. But the problem
• 40:39
  Speaker 12: is is that when that happens, when judges do depart
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  Speaker 12: from public expectations, there's very little that the public can
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  Speaker 12: do about it. We can't vote out a bad judge,
• 40:49
  Speaker 12: and that is a real problem.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'm going to say you about the judge. You know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I'm no expert about the discretion all that, but I
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: guess if people have got a problem with the law,
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: don't blame the judge, Blame the politicians who voted for
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: that law. Pauline Hanson, Michael, and what we just heard,
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  Speaker 2: I think sort of feeds into this a bit. With
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: just one word monoculture, blew up Angus Taylor's day.
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  Speaker 3: I showed at the top of the show.
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  Speaker 2: Him neither daring to disagree with Hanson on Australia needing
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a public monoculture and not daring to agree either and
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: being torn apart by labor for it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: What did you make of the fuss?
• 41:31
  Speaker 18: Well, first of all, I agree with you the other
• 41:33
  Speaker 18: day when you I think you said that that use
• 41:35
  Speaker 18: of that word was a mistake.
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  Speaker 3: Who would have been better to say.
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  Speaker 18: Shared values because it made her a target to anyone
• 41:41
  Speaker 18: who uses that word, an easier target. I know what
• 41:46
  Speaker 18: she's getting at, and so do you, and so do
• 41:47
  Speaker 18: the Australian public. I think the problem is angus or
• 41:51
  Speaker 18: angry tailor as I told him call him. He uses
• 41:54
  Speaker 18: too many cliches and press conferences. He had the word
• 41:58
  Speaker 18: angry one, don't he used it about twenty times angry
• 42:01
  Speaker 18: this angry that he used a similar thing.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: On the weekend. Angus.
• 42:05
  Speaker 18: You've got to relax more, You've got to talk more sincerely,
• 42:09
  Speaker 18: more matter of fact. Way, dare I say it like
• 42:12
  Speaker 18: the new British labor leader compared to the past one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there is that me?
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  Speaker 2: What did you think I mean? I'm torn with that monoculture.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: I do think it was a mistake because it's a
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: lightning ride. It was misinterpreted, wasn't well explained, and the
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: issues off. But on the other hand, the issues off
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and running. And that's exactly what does suit Hanson. What
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: do you think of the whole debate though, the concept
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: of having a public culture that is a kind of monoculture,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: like we only support these central values, this central culture,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: we don't go funding everyone else's private culture as well.
• 42:53
  Speaker 14: Well.
• 42:54
  Speaker 12: I think it's about time that we actually started having
• 42:55
  Speaker 12: conversation here in Australia, and I think that is what
• 42:58
  Speaker 12: Pauline Hanson has been very effect doing, is at taking
• 43:01
  Speaker 12: these ideas that we've allays accepted as norm for a
• 43:04
  Speaker 12: long time, the phrases like multiculturalism, and in this country,
• 43:08
  Speaker 12: we haven't had a debate about what that actually means
• 43:11
  Speaker 12: for a long time, and paul Enhanson has certainly sparked
• 43:13
  Speaker 12: that debate. But I do think it is time that
• 43:15
  Speaker 12: we start questioning what that actually means because for a
• 43:19
  Speaker 12: long time, especially under this Labor government, multicultural multiculturalism seems
• 43:24
  Speaker 12: to be centered on this idea that you can have
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: anyone from all over the world, regardless of their values,
• 43:29
  Speaker 12: and you'll bring them to the same land mass and
• 43:31
  Speaker 12: that will be enough to unite a country. Now, just
• 43:33
  Speaker 12: sharing the same land mass is not enough to unite Australians.
• 43:38
  Speaker 13: So I think it's about time that we do have
• 43:39
  Speaker 13: that conversation.
• 43:40
  Speaker 12: I thought the Liberal Party was maybe off to a
• 43:42
  Speaker 12: good start talking about Australian values.
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: However they seem to have just stopped there.
• 43:48
  Speaker 12: I'm yet to hear Angus Taylor or any of the
• 43:50
  Speaker 12: coalition actually talk about what they mean by Australian values
• 43:53
  Speaker 12: and what that actually is. And I think that's really
• 43:57
  Speaker 12: the crucial part of this debate. What doesn't mean to
• 43:59
  Speaker 12: be Australian.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we're often missing in that is
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: that Australian values, whatever values you want to call them,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: are best enforced with love, not by legislation. So you've
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: got to give people something to emotionally respond to. You
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: can't just say, oh, listen, here's a little tick these
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: boxes and you share our values.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work that way. Michael.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: We have had just the perfect example of what Hansen
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is talking about, which is fighting a new study showing
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: ten percent of year nine and ten state schools teachers
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: in this survey in New South Wales refuse to teach
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: about the Holocaust, some refusing if to teach about the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: diary of Anne Frank, murdered in the Holocaust because in
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: at least some cases they said, well, we've got Middle
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Eastern students who would not like it. What's more, of
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the Australian Education Union said teachers needed more guidance from
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: education ministers in teaching about the Holocaust because of the
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: verse lived experience of students of some MIDLISTI and students
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I would assume.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: And that's the problem right there in a nutshell, isn't it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 18: All The old communists who ran the Teachers Union in
• 45:12
  Speaker 18: New South Wales would be embarrassed at their successes now
• 45:14
  Speaker 18: dropping this because it's not fashionable, or some group of
• 45:20
  Speaker 18: intolerance from the western subbs of Sydney don't want to
• 45:23
  Speaker 18: learn it in class. There are certain universal values that
• 45:26
  Speaker 18: we should take into consideration, and one of them is
• 45:30
  Speaker 18: that the paradigm of evil is what happened during the.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Second World War.
• 45:33
  Speaker 18: And teachers in New South Wales who are too scared
• 45:37
  Speaker 18: to teach this shouldn't be in positions of responsibility. But
• 45:40
  Speaker 18: it's such a reflection on the Teachers Union. They'd never
• 45:43
  Speaker 18: have been like this in the past. They would have
• 45:45
  Speaker 18: been what they called anti fascists. They can't even teach
• 45:48
  Speaker 18: the Diary of Ann Frank, My goodness, pathetic.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I must say, I must say the new Southwest
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Education Union system surveys unrepresentative.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: You know, they're trying to trash it, but that's it.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I do recall seeing a number of teachers over there
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: in protest wherein Keffe is So I'm not quite sure
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: if they're talking about Middle Easince students wanting them to
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: talk about the Holocaust.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: So maybe what do you make of the story? What
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: do you make of it?
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: Me, Hey, Andrew, if teachers were to start talking about
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: what's appropriate to teach school children, I'm more than happy
• 46:26
  Speaker 12: to start engaging that debate. I've been wanting to talk
• 46:28
  Speaker 12: about this for a long time. I think there's a
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: whole lot of things that we shouldn't be teaching children.
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: For example, I don't think we should be teaching five
• 46:34
  Speaker 12: year olds about the Stolen Generation.
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: I don't think they mature enough yet.
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: I don't think we should be teaching six and seven
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: year olds about gender ideology and teaching them that there
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: are not two genders. And I don't think we should
• 46:44
  Speaker 12: be teaching those in year five and six are about
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: climate change in the world's about to explode from global warming.
• 46:51
  Speaker 13: I think all of that's in appropriate.
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: But somehow I think these teachers who don't want to
• 46:55
  Speaker 12: teach the Holocaust, I'm sure none of them have a
• 46:58
  Speaker 12: problem teaching those idea is that I think.
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: Are incredibly age and appropriate.
• 47:02
  Speaker 12: However, I think learning about the atrocities of World War
• 47:04
  Speaker 12: Two in year nine to ten are definitely appropriate at
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: that age. I think it's really important. I think it
• 47:10
  Speaker 12: shapes the worldview that we now have. It shapes many
• 47:12
  Speaker 12: of the tensions and relationships that we see all around
• 47:15
  Speaker 12: the globe, which year nine intentions are taught in a
• 47:18
  Speaker 12: variety of different ways, and I think if you remove
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: that crucial piece of the puzzle that really informs the
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: world we're living in today, then that.
• 47:25
  Speaker 13: Is a huge, huge mistake.
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: But I think that speaks to the activism of these teachers,
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: that they have a problem teaching about the Holocaust, but
• 47:32
  Speaker 12: not all of these other activist ideas.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Meer Schliff, Michael Danby, thank you very much to you
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: both your spot on In fact, you know there it
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: is a monoculture, would insist one curriculum for all, And
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I don't care where you're from, these are our values.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: This is what we want you to know, and you
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: don't go off in your own way. That's what I think.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: That's it for me.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Up next to the Sherry hosted by the most excellent
• 47:57
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