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Show 53: Sacred Tradition, Part 1 · The Uncensored Catholic

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Hey, y'all, welcome to today's show. Today, I want to get
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into a really interesting topic. You know, the debate since the past five
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hundred years or so, or at least since about the mid fifteen hundreds,
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has been whether Christians should follow the Bible alone, as Protestants maintain, or
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the Bible plus sacred tradition, as the Catholic Church maintains. The Catholic teaching
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being that God gave us both the Bible and taught his apostles things that weren't
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written down in the Bible, which the Bible actually says, he said many
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other things, and they would fill all the books on earth if they were
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all written down. And we follow the teachings of the Church that Jesus founded
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as much as we do the teachings of the Bible, because both are guaranteed
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to be accurate by the Holy Spirit. And in some cases the Church may
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actually take pre eminence because not everything in the Bible is clear. Some things
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are open to interpretation, and in that case we turn to the Church and
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say, through sacred tradition, how do we understand this teaching in the Bible.
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That is, frankly, the most common sense way to look at I
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can think of, especially since the early Church wrote the Bible. I mean,
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it was the Apostles and that actually wrote the New Testament, and for
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the first few hundred years there really wasn't a Bible. That the Catholic Church
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published the Bible. Choosing what scriptures would comprise the Old Testament as being inspired
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by the Holy Spirit and what you know, modern to their era, contemporary
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works, I guess you would say, we're accurate, We're true. There
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were many fault gospels that were written. I won't say many, but there
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were several, one being the Gospel of Judas by the Gnostics that tried to
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paint Judas as a hero as opposed to the one who betrayed Christ. There
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were all kinds of gnostic writings and other heretics. And the Church, with
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its authority given by the Holy Spirit, guaranteed by Jesus Christ, I should
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say given by Jesus Christ, guaranteed by the Holy Spirit, inherently chose which
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books should go with the Bible. And then you know, fourteen hundred,
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almost fifteen hundred years later, Martin Luther just started throwing out books because he
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didn't like him, they didn't agree with his interpretation. His authority was the
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only authority he respected. Somehow he said the Bible alone. But when questioned,
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he actually wrote, when they say, why did you know, they
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say Martin Luther changed the words of Jesus Christ to say something he didn't actually
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say, which he actually did. He say, he changed faith and works
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to faith and learn. And they said by what authority does he do this?
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He said, you can tell the papists insulting Catholics a good Christian.
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They're always insulting people that doctor Luther is his own authority. So it was
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the Bibles of soul authority. But actually to Martin Luther, it was Martin
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Luther who was his sole authority. And that's true of well, certainly Calvin
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and many Protestant leaders. The Catholic Church relies on the unbroken tradition, having
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been handed to the apostles on Day one by Christ when he founded his church
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upon the rock that was Saint Peter. We're going to get into this,
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but first of all, of course, I want to take a couple of
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questions and answers from the classic book Radio Replies. This one gets into more
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philosophical questions. I guess you would say or theological. But the first question
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is very important. What is man? They answer, Man is a living
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being endowed with a sensitive material body and a spiritual soul, which is immortal
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of its very nature, and which rejoices in the two spiritual faculties of intelligence
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and free will. Man is not an animal. Man as a holy soul,
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an immortal and a soul that can be raised up to the divine through
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the cooperative effort of God and man because God gives us free will, or
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can reject God but will still live for fraternity in hell. Man has an
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intellect and a rationality. Man has a heart es capable of love. Man
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is not a simple, one dimensional being. In other words, they ask,
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may we say that man has a soul? Or the questioner asks,
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I should say, They answer the two priests, it is we may speak
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that way. Strictly speaking, however, man is a composite being, consisting
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of both body and soul, the soul, of course, being the noble
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component of the element. You cannot separate the human from the soul. If
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you do, he dies. The soul is the animating force of the body,
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and every human being, of course has a soul. You cannot ac
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separate the physical from the soul either, that's a big mistake that well the
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Gnostics made for want, and many Protestant groups have repeated throughout the years.
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Somehow, all the heresies just keep recycling every few years, and they will
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deny the physical. Well in many cases, like when they deny the necessity
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of the sacraments, they say they're just symbolic. No, I'm not symbolic.
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Jesus implemented the use of water to heal the soul, to cleanse the
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soul, just as he used the clay and in his spit to heal the
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man's eyesight. He could have done with his word, but he sanctified the
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physical, and he promised he will raise our bodies to be with our souls,
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body and soul, just as He rose body and soul from the dead
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on the last day, we will be risen, just as He rose from
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the grave. They then ask, prove that a soul does exist in man.
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The answer is, a living human body is not the same as a
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corpse. Now, the soul is the difference between a corpse and a living
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being. A dead body cannot move, eat, think, express itself,
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express itself, enjoy, or be miserable, it can but fall to pieces
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and go back to dust. There is something that stops your body from doing
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that. Now it is your soul. For every activity you must find a
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principal operation behind it. The principle in a man which thinks and loves and
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as happy or as miserable, is a very real thing. It is not
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nothing less than the very body it amanates. It is not a chemical.
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No doctor examine a corpse can tell you what chemical is missing that it should
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not live. If there be nothing else save chemical substances. Let doctors and
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scientists gather together the requisite chemicals and say live. They can affect nothing like
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this. There is something that chemistry cannot reach, a soul or spirit.
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Look anyone in the face, and behind those animated features, those changing expressions,
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in the very eyes, you will read the soul. A person goes
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further and says that the soul is the difference between a living being in a
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corpse. That an animal era than a vegetable must have a soul. That
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is so, they say. Sae philosophy admits a vegetative soul, a sensitive
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animal soul, and an immortal, spiritual and human and intelligent human soul.
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In that case, the soul is the life force, the animating force.
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It's another thing that people get very confused about. They say that animals don't
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have souls. They do. It's the animating force, it's a personality.
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It's the being of that animal that leaves when they die. And it's the
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very same with plants. God gives to plants an animating force, one that
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is not, of course rational or capable of feeling. But when that animating
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force leaves that plant, the plant withers and die. When to signify the
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animating force, the soul as being united with the body. After the Resurrection,
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when Jesus appeared to the apostles, one of the first things he did
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was asked him for some fish to eat. A ghost has no need of
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food. Jesus was emphasizing that he had risen both body and soul and as
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such could still eat and still desired to eat. Get into what's really important,
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and this is probably gonna mean a multipartner. I'm not sure yet.
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I'm gonna try to keep this one to about thirty minutes, and I'm already
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about ten minutes in, so let's go with this. In the early writings
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of the Church. Before you know, the Bible was even really formalized.
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I think it was. The Bible was just kind of having its final touches
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put on it. Everything was being They pretty much knew what the gospels were,
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The Gospel of John had been written, the Revelation had been written,
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but they were still debating what books belonged in the Old Testament. If I'm
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not mistaken, when this was written. And the reason I have to be
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a little unclear is we don't know exactly what year this was written. Okay,
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we do know it was written in about the two hundreds, because that's
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when Saint Ironnaius lived, and in Saint Ironnais's time there was a very big
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problem with heresy. There were churches popping up claiming to be Christian, teaching
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doctrine absolutely opposed to what would become the Bible and the Catholic Church. Saint
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Ironaus wrote five books explaining why the heretics, especially the Gnostics, were wrong
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while their belief was incompatible with Orthodox Christianity, by which I don't mean,
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you know, the Greek or the Russian Orthodox Church. I would just mean
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faithful, true Christian belief holding fast to the truth. It's not to say
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that wouldn't be also incompative, incompatible with the Greek and Russian orthox. Sure,
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so they justn't exists at the time. When I'm saying orthodox Christianity,
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I just mean belief in the teachings of the Church and an adherence to them.
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The first two books he explained what the Nastics believed, and as I
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said, it's fascinating to read through them and find how so many of the
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same heretical, mistaken beliefs pop up again and again throughout the centuries, and
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even you know, when someone was mentioned to me this morning is very common.
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It actually began with another heretical sect, the Arians, who claimed that
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Jesus, that Jesus was a creature made by God, not part of God,
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not in the Trinity that came after, was created after the Father.
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Well, that's actually believed by the Jehovah's witness and the Church of Latter day
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Saints, the Mormons today. It's just a recycled heresy from I think to
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five hundreds. These things just keep coming up again and again and again,
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and all you really have to do is go back to the early Church fathers.
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There's nothing new under the sun, as I think ecclesiasts. He says,
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they already dealt with it, they already knocked it down, they already
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showed that it was wrong. And that's what iron Ais does in the first
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two books. But then he gets into a very interesting subject to his third
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book, and the third book he shows that the beliefs of the NaSTA heretics
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are incompatible with both the Bible and the teachings of the Church. This is
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a great defense of sacred tradition. These people were taking the Bible and reading
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it out of context and coming up with supposed secret teachings given to them by
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the Holy Spirit. Right, that's actually what a lot of churches are founded
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on, just as the Gnostics were in the two hundreds. So when he
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brings up sacred tradition and explains it, this is just as salient an argument
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against the errors of Protestantism in the year twenty twenty three as it was in
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the year two hundred fifty, two hundred and seventy. Whenever he wrote this,
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he said, we have learned from and like I said, I'm not
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going to read the whole thing to you. I'm going to take a you
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know, a chapter here, a chapter there, and I hope it doesn't
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take more than one show, but it might if you want to read the
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full thing in context, which I always recommend, always read original sources and
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always read them in context. This is from the anti anti Nicean the fathers,
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the Church fathers who wrote before the Nicean Creed. The Nicean Creed was
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actually necessitated to refute heretics such as the Gnostics, so this is very much
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leading up to that. And it's the Apostolic fathers with Justin Martyr and Ironais.
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This sexually starts with Popes Saint Clement and goes all the way through Ironais.
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So very long book, could six hundred pages, but not actually that
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hard to read, a very informant You've got Saint Justin Martyr, you've got
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Polycarp, They're all in there. It's fantastic. He says, we have
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learned from none others the plan of our salvation than from those through whom the
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Gospel has come down to us, which they did at one time proclaiming public
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and at a later period, by the will of God, handed down to
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us in scriptures to be the ground and pillar of our faith. Bible actually
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says the church is the pillar and foundation of the truth. That's what the
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church is. It's the teachings of the Apostles, whether by word or written
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in the Bible. You have to remember early Christians didn't have a Bible.
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If it's the Bible alone, then there was no such thing as a Christian
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church for the first couple hundred years, not really until Saint Jerome translated everything
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from mostly Greek and some Aramaic and some Hebrew into Latin. Was there a
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Christian church? And I mean, was there a Bible? And if the
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Bible was necessary and the only authority, you couldn't have had a Christian church
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for a period longer than America has even existed. America found in seventeen seventy
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six, has been around a little over two hundred years. For the first
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about three hundred years, Christians didn't have a Bible, at least not an
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intact Bible. They may have had one or two Gospels. They didn't have
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what we have now, and therefore the Protestant argument is false on its face.
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But we'll get back into this, and Saint Ironius actually makes this point
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of how a pagan lands there are people who are more faithful and better Christians
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who have never read the Bible because they don't speak the language, have understood
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the teachings of the Apostles. You know, the Bible was a very new
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thing in Saint Irenaeus's time, and most people were illiterate, and even if
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they weren't illiterate, they couldn't read Greek, and if they did read Greek,
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they couldn't read Aramaic or Hebrew. I mean, it was a big
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problem until you know, Saint Jerome put together the Biblious sacrival Godda or the
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Bible in the language of the common people, which was Latin. And we
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should still be reading the Bible in Latin to make sure that our modern translations
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are accurate. Anyway, For as unlawful to assert that they preached before they
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possessed perfect knowledge, as do as some even do ventures say, boasting themselves
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as improvers of the Apostles. For after our Lord rose from the dead,
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the apostles were invested with powerful on high. When the Holy Spirit came down
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upon them and filled from all his gifts, and filled them from all his
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skills, and had perfect knowledge, they departed to the ends of the earth,
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preaching the glad tidings of good things sent to us, sent from God
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to us, and proclaiming the peace of Heaven to men who indeed do all
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equally and individually possessed the Gospel of God. You know, recently I had
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to debate with a Protestant who said the Church had no authority to make the
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Christian Sabbath Sunday. I said, well, yeah, actually, they were
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given all authority by Jesus. He said, those who hear you hear me.
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Those who refuse to hear you refuse the one who sent me. That's
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essentially what Saint Irenaeus is saying right there, that the power he invested them
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with on high, he gave them that power to bind and loose, to
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make clear all doctrine, all matters of morals and doctrine. This person said
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that, you know, the Church had no such authority. Well, of
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course they would say that they were Protestant, but they say their reading of
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the Bible, as says, shows that Jesus actually said this, And well
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that's what he's saying. Those who would improve upon the teachings of the apostles
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cannot be done if it did. Jesus is a liar, and if Jesus
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is a liar, Jesus is not God. So you have no have nothing
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on which to hang your faith if you deny both the truth of the scriptures
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and the authority of the Church who wrote those scriptures. Matthew also issued a
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written gospel among the Hebrews and their own dialect, why Peter and Paul were
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preaching in Rome. Many Protestants deny that Peter and Paul were ever in Rome.
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By the way, well Peter, at least they will admit that Paul
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was there. Yes, he was there. He was crucified upside down,
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martyred and buried, and now on his grave is where the basilicas Saint Peter's
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basilica is. He literally is the stone on which the church is built.
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And he says what Peter and Paul were preaching in Rome and laying the foundations
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of the church of the Church. After their departure, Mark, the disciple
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interpreter of Peter, did also hand down to us in writing what had been
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preached by Peter. Luke, also the companion of Paul, recorded in a
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book of the gospel preached by him. Afterwards, John, the disciple of
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the Lord, who had leaned upon his breast, did himself publish a gospel
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during his residence as Ephesus in Asia. These have all declared us. There's
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one God, creator of heaven earth, announced by the law and the prophets,
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and one christis son of God. If anyone does not agree to these
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truths, he despises the companions of the Lord. Nay more, he despises
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Christ himself, the Lord. Yea, he despises the Father also and stands
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self condemned, resisting and opposing his own salvation. As is the case with
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all heretics, he continues, when however, they are confuted from scriptures,
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they turn around and accuse these same scriptures as if they are not correct.
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That's what I was saying about the lady who said that, you know,
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the Church had no authority to make Sunday our day of worship when Jesus said
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the son of Man as the Lord of the Sabbath, when the Church was
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given all authority to bind and loose as if they were not correct nor of
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authority, and assert that they are ambiguous and that the truth cannot be extracted
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from them who are ignorant of tradition. So that's an argument many modern Christians
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make today that the Bible is open to many interpretations. Well, what these
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heretics are saying is that you can't understand the Bible, and therefore you only
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can rely on tradition. But they have a different tradition than that of the
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Church. As Jesus said, those who are his sheep know his name,
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his voice, and he knows them by name. And the Church is the
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one he instructed to teach. He told his disciples to go out and teach.
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If they didn't, if there's a different truth then is contained in the
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Church and the Bible, then there is no such thing as Christianity. And
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he goes on and says, how they have perverse dispositions and deprave the system
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of the truth, and have no shame in precating a gospel other than what
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Jesus preached. And he says, but again we refer them to the tradition
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which originates from the apostles and is preserved by the means of succession of presbyters
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in the churches. They object to traditions, saying that they themselves are wiser,
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not merely than the presbyters, but even than the apostles, because they
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have discovered unadulterated truth. Yeah, I think that's about That's basically what Martin
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Luther said. That's what Calvin said, That's what Knox said, That's what
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Oh every cult leader, you know, like the Branch Davidians would say,
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Yeah, a little bit of similarity. They're actually for they maintain that the
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apostles intermingled the things of the law with the words of the Savior. That's
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what you're many, yes, many Protestants do say that, saying that basically
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the church has no authority. Well, Jesus gave the church all authority under
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heaven. Those were actually his words all authority. Well, I'll Skippy had
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a little bit more because he's speaking specifically of the Gnostics. Well, we
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actually do have several philosophies and heretical churches these days that are very nastic in
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nature, especially anything stemming from the Masonic Order. The Masonic Order founded in
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the seventeen hundreds, regardless of what they say, is essentially a gnostic church,
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a heretical church that has been a secular heretical church at that that has
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the teachings of which have been condemned from the very beginning of Christianity. He
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continues, it is within the power of all therefore, and every church who
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may wish to see the truth, to contemplate clearly the tradition of the Apostles
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manifested throughout the whole world. And we are in a position to reckon up
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those who were by the Apostles institute bishops and the churches, and to demonstrate
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the succession of these men to our own times those who neither taught nor knew
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of anything like what these heretics rave about. For if the Apostles had known
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hidden mysteries which they were in the habit of imparting to the perfect, as
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the heretics say, the Gnostics called themselves perfect in knowledge apart and privately from
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the rest, they would have delivered them, especially to those whom they were
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committing the churches themselves, For they were desirous that these men should be very
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perfect and blameless in all things, whom they were leaving behind as their successors,
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delivering up their own place of government to these men, which men,
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if they discharge their functions honestly, would be a great moon to the church.
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But if they should fall away, the direst calamity, Since, however,
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it would be very tedious in a volume as this, to reckon up
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a succession of all the churches. We do put to confusion all those who,
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in whatever matter, whether by evil self pleasing, by vainglory, or
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by blindness or perverse opinion, assemble and unauthorized meetings. We do this,
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I say, by indicating the tradition derived from the apostles of the very great,
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the very ancient and universally known Christian Church, organized at Rome by the
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two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul. Remember, most anti Catholic Protestants
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absolutely deny Saint Peter's ever in run here we are two hundred fifty two seventy
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a d. And this was also said by earlier church fathers than Saint Ironis.
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I mean, going back to the very earliest writings of Christianity, that
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Peter was the Bishop of Rome and the authority the head of all the church,
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and the story of his martyrdom is very much a part of our sacred
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tradition. It has been passed down from the very people who witnessed it.
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It's as true as any contemporaneous report, if it had been written in a
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newspaper of the day. That's the equivalent. The Bible is not a newspaper.
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The Bible specifically says all that is written here is so that you may
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believe it doesn't have It's not a history book, and it's not a newspaper.
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So Peter and Paul has also by pointing out the faith preached to men,
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which comes down to our times by means of the succession of bishops.
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For it is a matter of necessity that every church should agree with this church
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on account of its pre eminent authority, that is, the faithful everywhere,
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inasmuch as the apostolical tradition has been preserved continuously by those faithful men who exist
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everywhere. Again, of many prizes to deny that the Church in Rome,
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the Catholic Church in Rome, had any authority over the other church as well,
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Pope Saint Clement, writing I think about seventy eight, said it did.
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Polycarp Saint Justin Martyr Here's sat Iron as Saint Ignatius, the earliest writings
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of the Christian Church give full authority to the pope in run over the bishops
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that governed all the other churches throughout the world. No Christian church was in
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disagreement or separate from There was only one church, and that was Catholic until
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fourteen hundred and something, you know, mid fourteen hundreds, unless you count
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the breakaway of the Orthodox Church, which was never that. The Orthodox still
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believed basically the same thing the Catholic Church believes. There's just a disagreement that
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arose that it has tried to be reconciled several times over the years. The
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Russians are the main holdouts and eventually will be reconciled, but their teachings on
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the sacraments, on that they have a I mean it's the second okay,
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um, let's see the Blessed Apostles. Then, having founded and built up
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the church, committed into the hands of Lioness the office of the episcopate.
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Lioness was the first pope pope Lioness. He was ordained by Saint Peter.
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Maybe all the first like three popes if I remember correctly, were ordained by
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Saint Peter. Of course he didn't make them all pope, but he didn't
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make them priests and bishops. This Lioness Paul makes the epistles, and the
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epistle Paul makes mention in the Epistles to Timothy. So there's another way you
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can refute Protestant claims that, you know, the Church in Rome had no
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authority. The Bible does actually record uh Lioness in the Epistle of Timothy to
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him succeeded Aneclidus, and after him in the third place, from the apostles,
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Clement was a lot of the bishopric. Clement, Pope, Saint Clement
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of Rome is the first of the church followers fathers to really write, and
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I think it's about seventy eight. Dan's very could have even been earlier than
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that. Actually, this man, as he had seen the blessed Apostles and
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had been conversant with them, might be said to have the preaching of the
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Apostles still echoing in his ears, and their traditions before his eyes. Nor
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was he alone in this, for there were many still remaining who had received
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instruction from the Apostles in the time of this Clement. No small dissension having
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occurred among the brethren at Corinth, the Church in Rome dispatched the most powerful
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letter to the Corinthians, exhorting them to exhorting them to make peace, renewing
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their faith and declaring the tradition which it had lately received from the apostles.
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Proclaimed the One God, omnipotent, the maker of heaven and earth, creator
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of man, who brought the deluge and called Abraham, who led the people
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from the land of Egypt, spake with Moses, set forth the law,
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set the prophets, and who had prepared fire for the devil and his angels.
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From this document, whosoever chooses to do may learn that he, the
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Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ, was preached by the churches, and
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may also understand the apostolic tradition of the Church. Since the epistle is of
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older date than these men who are now propagating falsehood. Well, boy,
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hottie, in this day and time. The writings of the epistles or letters
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of Pope Saint Clement of Rome are nearly two thousand years old. They were
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written before the Bible was completed. The Bible was not even in its most
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basic form yet, so this is a letter. His letters do predate the
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Bible and had authority. Even Protestants will say the Bible alone has a thought
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already know his letters had the authority because he was the pope and he ruled
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all churches, as God instituted to this clement. There succeeded Everistus, I
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think he pronounced that name. Alexander followed Everistus, and then sixth from the
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apostles, Sixtus was appointed, after him tell Us for Us, who was
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gloriously martyred, then Hygienius, and after him Pious, and after him Anestus
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sodor having as succeeded Anestus Elitherius, I think it's Alitherius. I knew a
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man who had a Spanish version of that name. I never could pronounce hes
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either does now in the twelfth place, from the apostles hold the inheritance of
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the episcopate in this order, and by the succession of the ecclesiastical tradition from
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the apostles and the preaching of the truth have come down to us. And
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this most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith which has
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been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now and handed down in truth.
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So twelve essentially generations of popes before there was even a Bible. But
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polycarp also not only was also was not only instructed by the apostles. Saint
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Polycarp was a great martyr, and he wrote quite a bit about the authority
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of the Catholic Church, telling people to listen to their bishops, for the
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bishops listened to the Pope, and their words are to be to you as
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the word of God, because that's what Jesus said. Those who hear you
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hear me. And conversed with many who had seen Christ. But was also
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by apostles in Asia appointed bishop of the Church in Smyrna, whom I also
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saw in my early youth. For he tarried on earth a very long time,
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and when a very old man, gloriously and most nobly suffering martyrdom,
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departing this life having always taught the things which he learned from the apostles,
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and which the Church handed down, and which alone were true. Pocarp is
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said to have lived well over one hundred years old and willingly die to martyr.
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To these things all the Asiatic churches testify, as do all these men
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who have succeeded Polycarp down to the present time. A man who was of
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much greater weight and more steadfast witnessed of the truth than Valentineous Marcion and all
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the rest of these heretics. He it was who, coming to Rome at
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the time of Antistis, caused many to turn away from the aforesaid heretics to
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the Church of God, proclaiming that he had received this one and sole truth
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from the Apostles, that namely which is handed down by the Truth. There
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is also a very powerful epistle of Polycarp written to the Philippians, from which
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those who choose to do so and are anxious about their salvation can learn the
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character of his faith and the preaching of the truth. Then again, the
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church in ethesis, founded by Paul, and having John remaining among them permanently
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until the times of Trajan, is the true witness of the tradition of the
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Apostles. So what he's saying is, you know, during his time,
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those who knew the apostles were still alive and were preaching with the authority granted
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to them by Jesus Christ personal interpretations of the Bible, which was newly put
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together at the time of Ironaus and not had by any Christians for the first
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couple hundred years. They only had the tradition of the Apostles and their personal
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writings, you know, which would later be compiled into the Bible. These
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people knew the apostles, and he's saying that the faith has been handed on,
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pure and intact to us, and absolutely reject anyone who says their personal
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interpretation of the Bible is more valid than the teachings of the church. Holy
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tradition, sacred tradition is what's important in this paragraph that kind of skimmed over.
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He even says that Polycarp, even as an old man, would so
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totally reject people who spoke who taught a heretical doctrine, something that conflicted with
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the Church. He would just get up and run away from He would stop
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his ears and say he wouldn't listen to the words of the devil. That's
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what the early Church believe. Trust me, Trust me, the early Church
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would not have been big on Martin Luther or you know the founder of your
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street corner storefront church down the street that has ideas that are in complete opposition
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of the Catholic Church. There's a lot more to say, but I've gone
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on thirty six minutes, and I was shooting for thirty, so I guess
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we're going to pick this up tomorrow. Actually did cover a lot of ground
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but there's a lot more to say on this subject. It's very important to
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remember that our faith is Catholics, our doctrine, our teachings have been handed
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on from the very first time Jesus gave his authority to Saint Peter and the
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apostles. We can trace every single pope to the very first one. We
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can trace every Catholic Church to the one who founded it, to the one
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who founded it, to the one who founded it, bishops and cardinals in
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succession, all the way back to the apostles and disciples of Jesus Christ.
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And that our truth, the teaching of the Catholic Church is intact, is
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complete, is unchanged. Developments and doctrine have only come about, well,
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like when Saint Irenaeus had to argue against the Gnostics and things had to be
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further defined, they had to look into things more. But it's absolutely unchanged
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from day one, and in many ways, the authority of the sacred tradition
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in the Catholic Church surpasses that of the Bible. And that is because only
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the Catholic Church can give you an accurate, guaranteed by God interpretation of the
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meaning of the words of the Bible. Any teaching that differs from that of
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the Catholic Church is false and of the devil. And that's a that's it.
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Well, yeah, we'll pick their back up on this tomorrow. It's
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the Early Church Fathers. It's a well that has just keeps. I mean,
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it's a wealth of knowledge that's so deep and wide. I will probably
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reach the end of my life before I've even scratched the surface reading all the
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writings of the saints and doctors of the Church. I mean, it's taken
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me a good year just to read the very first volume of the Early Church
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Fathers. And I've read I've read bits and pieces of the first five hundred
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years or so for you know, over the past almost twenty years now,
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but eating them from beginning to end in their entirety, starting with the first
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writing of Pope Saint Clement of Rome and on and on through. I'm just
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now getting to about halfway through Ironaius, and I started reading this book about
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this time last year. You want to take the stuff in, you know,
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a chapter at a time, in small enough amounts that you know you
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can fully comprehend it. And yeah, it's it's the fullness of the truth
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contained in the Catholic Church is voluminous, voluminous, I think way to quietas
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write over a hundred books. Just started his own. Or was that Augustine?
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I cannot, I cannot remember, but I mean, just to dig
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into one saint's writing can be a life's work actually, So anyway, y'all
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have a great evening, have a great day. I'll talk to you,
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Mr. Remember the words of Saint Padre Pio, pray, hope and don't
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worry. Talk to you next time.