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UK Column News — 17th April 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the seventeenth April twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host mat Rumson joining me by video link. Today
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Speaker 1: we have Patrick Hennison and Basil Valentine.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Later in the program, I'm going to be reporting on
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Speaker 1: Starmer's latest efforts to regain control of the narrative and
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Speaker 1: also the latest report from the COVID inquiry. Basil's going
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Speaker 1: to be taking a look at the efforts to shut
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Speaker 1: down protests in the UK and also people trying to
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Speaker 1: get volunteer out of the NHS. And Patrick's going to
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Speaker 1: be reporting on oil and gas wars and the continuing
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Speaker 1: war between Trump and the Pope. But it could have
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Speaker 1: begin today with the continuing Starmer, Starmer and vandalson Saga.
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Speaker 1: So the question is will Starmer resign or will he?
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Speaker 1: Will he not? So, while there's mandleson on screen, not
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Speaker 1: sure where the title's gone, but anyway, star Wars just
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Speaker 1: determined that he don't resign. Following further revelations about the
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Speaker 1: vetting of Peter Mandelson, who, as everybody will know, was
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Speaker 1: sacked as US Ambassador to the United States in September
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Speaker 1: last year after emails looking him with Jeffrey Epstein. Now
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Speaker 1: Mandelson had initially been denied developed vetting as it's known
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Speaker 1: by the UK Security Vetting, which is the organization responsible
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Speaker 1: for doing the security checks. That's then come to light
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Speaker 1: that the Foreign Office over ruled that recommendation and granted clearance.
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Speaker 1: And the decision to overrule the vetting reportedly took place
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Speaker 1: over forty eight hours in late January twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: And then yesterday Starmer sacked Sir Oliver Robbins, the Foreign
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Speaker 1: Office Permanent Undersecretary, after he that Starmer and Foreign Secretary
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Speaker 1: of Vett Cooper lost confidence in him over his handling
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Speaker 1: the vetting process. Now that's the same Ollie Robins who
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Speaker 1: wrote the exit plan for Theresa May by the way,
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Speaker 1: but both it is quite incredible, how you know the
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Speaker 1: the problem is landing at the doors of officials. Both
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Speaker 1: Starmer and David Lammie, who was Foreign Secretary at the
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Speaker 1: time of Mandelsson's appointment. He's now Deputy Prime Minister. As
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Speaker 1: everybody knows. They both claim that they did not know
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Speaker 1: that the Foreign Office had overruled the vetting until yesterday
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Speaker 1: afternoon and Dining Street issued a statement saying that neither
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Speaker 1: Starmer nor any minister had known Mandlsson was granted clearance
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Speaker 1: against the advice of UK security vetting until earlier this week.
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Speaker 1: Not sure that, I suppose maybe yesterday is earlier this week,
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Speaker 1: but anyway, it seems like a strange contradiction there, and
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Speaker 1: they are attempting to divert responsibility onto the Foreign Office.
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Speaker 1: As I say, this situation is in contradiction with Starmer's
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Speaker 1: previous public position because in February he had told part
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Speaker 1: Element that's independent security vetting by the Security Services had
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Speaker 1: cleared Mandelson for the role. Starmer is due to appear
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Speaker 1: with Macron later on today in Paris at a summit
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Speaker 1: on the street of Hormo's Harmer's situation, and undoubtedly is
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Speaker 1: going to be asked a lot of questions about this.
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Speaker 3: Patrick.
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Speaker 1: Maybe I could just ask you for your thoughts on it,
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Speaker 1: because the question is is Starmer going to do well?
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Speaker 1: At least the Tories resigned whatever things got this hot.
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't bet on it quite frankly, but it's pretty
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Speaker 4: obvious that he had knowledge of all of this, so yes, correctly,
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Speaker 4: but my previous prime ministers would have resigned. But we're
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Speaker 4: in a sort of different period, aren't we in politics
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Speaker 4: where the one thing that politicians don't do in twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty six is actually either copp responsibility or resign anything, but.
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Speaker 1: That absolutely push it onto anybody else that they possibly can. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's move over to this situation with oil and gas,
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Speaker 1: Patrick of what is going on.
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Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna do a more of a broad analysis
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Speaker 4: here because we will touch on the updates on what's
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Speaker 4: happening in Iran, and it's going to affect everybody of
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Speaker 4: course around the world as well as in Europe. In
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Speaker 4: the UK we're already feeling at the pump. But also
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Speaker 4: we're going to tie this together with Russia and Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: Now we've spoken about this previously on the program, and
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Speaker 4: how these things are not separate at all. And then
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Speaker 4: what is Britain's role in this situation and taking shape
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Speaker 4: right now? Is a global oil and gas war led
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Speaker 4: by the United States, with its allies in tow playing
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Speaker 4: a supporting role, including Israel, but also the United Kingdom
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Speaker 4: as well. So look at the article here from our tea.
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Speaker 4: Now you might ask why should British people be allowed
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Speaker 4: to read Artie. If I'm not mistaken, it's currently blocked
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Speaker 4: in the UK unless they've lifted the band, but to
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Speaker 4: my knowledge they haven't. This is the reason why you
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Speaker 4: need to be able to read the Russian press, because
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Speaker 4: you're not seeing this Russian security chief. This is Sergei
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Speaker 4: Shogu here basically issuing a stern warning to the Baltic
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Speaker 4: States well also Finland as well, but Lithuania, Latvia and
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Speaker 4: Estonia for allowing their airspace to be used for drone flights.
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Speaker 4: We're talking about Ukrainian drones that are being used to
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Speaker 4: attack Russian export oil and gas facilities. And I'll show
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Speaker 4: you just how serious this is in a minute here.
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Speaker 4: So we're looking at right here the pretext for at
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Speaker 4: any moment, the pretext for a wider war with Europe
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Speaker 4: could break out because of this. So NATO and the
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Speaker 4: Europeans are really pushing it. They're pushing the ed on
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Speaker 4: this here. Recently, there have been an increase in Ukrainian
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Speaker 4: drone strikes on Russian sites there. As a result, civilians
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Speaker 4: are suffering significant damage is being caused to civilian instructure
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Speaker 4: and basically saying Moscow has the right to self defense
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Speaker 4: in response, to an armed attack under Article fifty one
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Speaker 4: of the UN Charter. That's a strong statement. They're laying
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Speaker 4: the legal pretext here for retaliation against NATO countries against Europe.
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Speaker 4: The question is what will NATO do in response here?
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Speaker 4: And what does this lead to here? Okay, it leads
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Speaker 4: to this, the myth of Ukrainian drones. What's really behind
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Speaker 4: the production chain here? These are drones with a range
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Speaker 4: of up to one thousand, seven hundred and fifty kilometers.
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Speaker 4: These are being used to fly very long distances to
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Speaker 4: attack Russian oil and gas facilities. And so we have
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Speaker 4: the basis here for something that is going to be
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Speaker 4: touching Europe unfortunately. And take a look at the map here,
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Speaker 4: so proxy war, the EU and the UK manufacturing Ukrainian drones. Okay,
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Speaker 4: and just zoom in a little bit closer on this
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Speaker 4: map here, and we'll bring this up on screen, and
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Speaker 4: what we'll see is what I'm specifically interested in here
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Speaker 4: is the UK. What I'm specifically interested in here is
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Speaker 4: the UK role in this production. And as we bring
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Speaker 4: in the map here, if we're able to zoom in
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Speaker 4: a little bit closer to the next line, thank you
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Speaker 4: so much, and you can see these are the UK
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Speaker 4: sites here working with Ukraine producing these same drones that
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Speaker 4: are being used to attack Russia. Leicester, milden Hall and
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Speaker 4: also in London. And now these particular three firms, I
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Speaker 4: believe these are Ukrainian companies that are operating within the UK,
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Speaker 4: either as joint ventures or autonomously. So Russia's already mapped
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Speaker 4: out all of this right across Europe, the worst defenders
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Speaker 4: probably being in one single country. The UK has more
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Speaker 4: facilities than any other single country in Europe here. So
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Speaker 4: this is the basis here for making a case for
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Speaker 4: potentially if the war does expand, this is going to
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Speaker 4: be one of the pretexts for it. So do the
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Speaker 4: British public understand this? Has this been debated on in parliament?
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Speaker 4: Is there a political conversation going on in the UK?
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Speaker 4: I'm not certain here and here are the receipts. We'll
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Speaker 4: just bring this up on screen. Forty percent of Russia's
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Speaker 4: Baltic export capacity is offline as a gasoline ban wide
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Speaker 4: and so Russia has instituted a gasoline ban. This is
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Speaker 4: how seriousness is. They can't export gasoline to Russian companies
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Speaker 4: until July. There's a moratorium on the export of Russian gas.
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Speaker 4: Now why is that because they don't want supply shortages
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Speaker 4: on the domestic market and also because their export potential
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Speaker 4: has been severely damaged as well. And so we can
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Speaker 4: see here from this Routis report several regions in Russian
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Speaker 4: parts of the Ukraine under Russian control were reporting gasoline
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Speaker 4: shortages last year after Ukraine and these drone attacks have
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Speaker 4: hit Russian oil refineries. So there's a plan going on
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Speaker 4: behind the scenes here and I think people need to
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Speaker 4: sort of wake up to what's actually happening. And here
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Speaker 4: is the announcement by Kirs Starmer the UK sending a
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Speaker 4: UK strike group carrier strike group to the Arctic later
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Speaker 4: probably in the next few months, citing and the reason
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Speaker 4: is they claim the UK saying rising Russian threats as
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Speaker 4: Trump bushes Greenland deal. So as you can see, this
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Speaker 4: is to reposition, This is to reposition military assets here
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Speaker 4: right through to the Greenland and the Northern Corridor Mike,
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Speaker 4: which we've talked about arming the Arctic. Okay, this is
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Speaker 4: exactly what looks like, this is exactly the play. And
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Speaker 4: so they're blocking Russian oil coming by sea over the
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Speaker 4: Northern Passage, over the top of Scandinavia and into the Atlantic.
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Speaker 4: And this is also Chinese for Chinese deliveries as well,
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Speaker 4: coming from the Baltic The US is attempting in the
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Speaker 4: UK to block this corridor here, this important trade corridor.
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Speaker 4: So I mean, it does seem like this is the
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Speaker 4: net result of what's happening in Ukraine, despite all of
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Speaker 4: the rhetoric, despite all of the toing and froing, and
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Speaker 4: all the big statements you're hearing from politicians about Russia
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Speaker 4: and so forth and democracy and all the rest of it.
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Speaker 4: Now back to Iran. Okay, that's the Russian side of
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Speaker 4: the global petroleum and L and G market here. So
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Speaker 4: what Trump is saying headlines, if you follow the headlines,
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Speaker 4: Trump says a deal is very close. They might do
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Speaker 4: another Pakistan meeting here. That's what the headlines are saying.
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Speaker 4: And secondly that Israel and Lebanon have agreed to attend
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Speaker 4: day ceasefire that's already been broken by Israel yesterday, so
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Speaker 4: it's no more ceasefire in Lebanon. Nobody expected that that
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Speaker 4: was going to be real. But anyway, the political conversation
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Speaker 4: still goes on, and the US Navy have stopped thirteen
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Speaker 4: ships from passing the Iranian port and the blockade, says
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Speaker 4: the Pentagon. Again, a lot of this is pr statements.
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Speaker 4: We don't really know the material substance of any of
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Speaker 4: these claims, so that's what's being said in the headlines here.
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Speaker 4: But meanwhile, the United States is not backing off. It
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Speaker 4: doesn't look like there's going to be a piece deal.
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Speaker 4: So here is Pete Haig Seth now setting up for
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Speaker 4: the next round of air strikes. Make no mistake, the
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Speaker 4: United States is not preparing for a cease fire. They
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Speaker 4: seem to be doing exactly the opposite. But go ahead
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Speaker 4: and roll this extraordinary threat by Pete Haig Seth.
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Speaker 5: We'll start with a message to Iran's military leadership, to
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Speaker 5: the Cage leadership and IRGC leadership, we're watching you. Our
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Speaker 5: capabilities are not the same our military and yours. Remember
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Speaker 5: this is not a fair fight, and we know what
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Speaker 5: military assets you are moving and where you are moving
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Speaker 5: them to.
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Speaker 4: While you are.
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Speaker 5: Digging out, which is exactly what you're doing, digging out
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Speaker 5: of bombed out and devastated facilities, we are only getting stronger.
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Speaker 5: You are digging out your remaining launchers and missiles with
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Speaker 5: no ability to replace them. You have no defense industry,
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Speaker 5: no ability to replenish your offensive or defensive capabilities. You
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Speaker 5: only have what you have. You know that, and we
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Speaker 5: know that. You can move things around, but you can't
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Speaker 5: actually rebuild.
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Speaker 4: So, as you can see, the US is absolutely preparing
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Speaker 4: for a next strike. Donald Trump is moving assets into
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Speaker 4: the back into the region. However, they're going around South
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Speaker 4: Africa and the southern tip of Africa, avoiding the Red Sea,
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Speaker 4: avoiding the Babel Mendev Straits because of the yem and
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Speaker 4: E's for fear that Yemen could attack. I mean, if
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Speaker 4: that's not an emission of Yemen winning the last war
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Speaker 4: against the United States, I don't know what is. So
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Speaker 4: that's what's actually happening on the ground. Meanwhile, just on
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Speaker 4: a side note here, there's articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth.
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Speaker 4: Here you'll see this report in the Guardian Democrats' file
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Speaker 4: impeachment articles against ex essentially for war crimes and the
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Speaker 4: threats about annihilating the Iranians, reigning on death from overhead,
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Speaker 4: bombing them to the stone Age. So there are US
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Speaker 4: lawmakers that wanting to hold him accountable for this. I
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Speaker 4: don't know how far that's going to go, especially since
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Speaker 4: the Democrats can't even manage to have the political will
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Speaker 4: or at least the leverage to get the War Powers
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Speaker 4: Act passed. So we'll see. But it is interesting that
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Speaker 4: that's taking place. So the blockade on the Straits of
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Speaker 4: Horn Moose, that's the big thing in the news. That's
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Speaker 4: what everybody's talking about here and here this report here,
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Speaker 4: How is China going to survive without the Straits of
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Speaker 4: Horror Moose, And that's the big question. This seems to
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Speaker 4: be the big strategic plane. If we go further and
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Speaker 4: just look at the breakdown here of the crude oil
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Speaker 4: that comes out via the Straits of Horror Moose, and
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Speaker 4: you can see the main recipients here, China being the
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Speaker 4: overwhelming lion share. It looks like five point four million
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Speaker 4: barrels per day to feed the Chinese economy. Then you've
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Speaker 4: got South Korea, Japan and the rest India as well.
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Speaker 4: Now that's been throttled significantly, and this can be throttled
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Speaker 4: even more going forward, and that looks like the US strategy.
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Speaker 4: So this is I think we're looking at the grand
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Speaker 4: strategy here beyond what's being said politically beyond the headlines.
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Speaker 4: And if you look at this, this is the really
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Speaker 4: important point. Qatar and a lot of their energy potential,
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Speaker 4: export potential has been canceled because of the retaliatory strikes
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Speaker 4: by Iran. Well, who hit the South Pars gasfield initially
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Speaker 4: was Israel took out the Iranian facility, and Iran threatened
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Speaker 4: they would respond, and they did after they were hit.
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Speaker 4: So there's coordination, as you can see, between the Americans
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Speaker 4: and the Israelis to create a chain of events that
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Speaker 4: will basically not just throttle but take offline a large
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Speaker 4: percentage of LNG in the Gulf in this case. And
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Speaker 4: that's the net result of this. So who's the beneficiary
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Speaker 4: of this, Well, let's take a look the beneficiary here.
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Speaker 4: US LNG exports sore to record levels in March amid
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Speaker 4: panic buying, and in April even higher. And so you
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Speaker 4: just look at the projections on this. They're projecting now
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Speaker 4: growth through twenty twenty thirty. So the whole industry, Wall Street,
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Speaker 4: everybody is dialed in on this right now. And you
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Speaker 4: can watch the markets, you can watch the way it's moving,
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Speaker 4: and you can see what's happening here. So I just
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Speaker 4: did a quick graph here. So the larger picture, which
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Speaker 4: we spoke about previously on this program. I mean we
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Speaker 4: did speak about this, I think in February about or
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Speaker 4: not February, February March, about Iran's connection to Venezuela. On this,
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Speaker 4: the United States have intervened here in the last six
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Speaker 4: months to basically stop or take control of the largest
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Speaker 4: reserves oil reserves known oil reserves and Venezuela. They've moved
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Speaker 4: in to throttle the Russian supply to the market, and
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Speaker 4: we can zoom in a little bit closer. We'll go
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Speaker 4: a little bit a little bit closer on this. So
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Speaker 4: they've hit Russia, throttled that market, and now they're hitting
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Speaker 4: the Persian Gulf. And if you look at that, that
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Speaker 4: is basically a large percentage of the global export capacity,
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Speaker 4: specifically going to China, Okay, in the Far East. So
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Speaker 4: that's what the United States has done. You have to
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Speaker 4: look at this strategically, and I believe and I'm not alone,
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Speaker 4: of course, a lot of analysts are now talking about this.
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Speaker 4: Richard Medhurst, the British a journalist, he's done an excellent
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Speaker 4: report on this recently and others have as well. So
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Speaker 4: we're looking at that situation here and then look line
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Speaker 4: and we'll bring up this is the US industry here,
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Speaker 4: US production export volume soaring, so in terms of oil
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Speaker 4: and LNG. The United States is positioning itself to be
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Speaker 4: the global go to point and they're doing so, Mike,
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Speaker 4: through piracy and sabotage and subterfuge and basically knocking out
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Speaker 4: large percentages of the global market. They now have a
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Speaker 4: near monopoly, which again we've been talking about for a
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Speaker 4: long time, on the European LNG market. They had a
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Speaker 4: monopoly over in northern Europe. Now they have it over
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Speaker 4: the south. So it's I think this is to me
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Speaker 4: what looks like the US establishment oil and gas industry,
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Speaker 4: the foreign policy blob. They're dialed into this and this
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Speaker 4: is the thing that no one's talking about, and I
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Speaker 4: think now we need to really look at this and
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Speaker 4: realize that the Trump administration do have a plan and
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Speaker 4: this is it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
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Speaker 3: Patrick.
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Speaker 1: Now, Basil, let me welcome you to the program. Because
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Speaker 1: of course, any opposition to what Patrick's been talking about,
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Speaker 1: any opposition to the war policy, people tend to oppose
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Speaker 1: these things through protest, and what we've been talking over
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Speaker 1: the last number of years. Actually about the systematic shutting
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Speaker 1: down of protest in the UK by the Starmar government
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Speaker 1: and the Litist tranch of legislation has not been put
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Speaker 1: in place. What is going on with us?
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Speaker 6: Yes, Mike Hevro everybody, it's not just protest, it's really
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Speaker 6: distorting the fabric of the country. Last week I used
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Speaker 6: the case of can you West and the total absence
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Speaker 6: of any forgiveness for him in spite of his obvious
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Speaker 6: and frank contrition, so highlight how Britain is increasingly veering
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Speaker 6: away from Christian values in favor of what might be
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Speaker 6: described as Old Testament thinking. This week, yet another Crime
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Speaker 6: and Policing bill was approved by the House of Commons,
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Speaker 6: and this one includes restrictions on protests around places of worship.
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Speaker 6: Amendment three seven to two is a requirement for police
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Speaker 6: to consider the cumulative impact of protests, and now leaders
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Speaker 6: from across the faith spectrum urged MPs to remove this
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Speaker 6: clause because they fear it will lead to lawful conscience
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Speaker 6: led protests being banned. A joint letter coordinated by Quakers
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Speaker 6: in Britain and signed by Bishop Mike Royle, Rabbi Gabriel
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Speaker 6: Canterweber Lord Indudgeit Singh, who's a Sikh, and sixteen other
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Speaker 6: faith and belief leaders, but warned that the cumulative impact
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Speaker 6: clauses too vague and to broad. Notably, the clause requires
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Speaker 6: police to consider previous and planned protests in the same
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Speaker 6: area when deciding whether to impose conditions on a demonstration.
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Speaker 6: The letter reads, it could mean that we are stopped
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Speaker 6: from demonstrating because another protest previously took place in the
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Speaker 6: same area, even if it was on a completely different
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Speaker 6: issue and obviously on a different day.
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Speaker 3: The Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu.
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Speaker 6: Sikh and Buddhist leaders say that despite their theological differences,
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Speaker 6: they share.
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Speaker 3: A common commitment to love and justice.
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Speaker 6: Members of all their communities are led by conscience to
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Speaker 6: protest peacefully on the issues that matter to them, they said,
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Speaker 6: and they pointed out that peaceful protest has often involved
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Speaker 6: cumulative action. I'd add that it's even a requirement. Campaigns
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Speaker 6: that changed the world, from the suffragettes to communities standing
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Speaker 6: up against thracking, were built on repeated and sustained demonstration. Now,
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Speaker 6: the faithfully leader's concern is shared very widely. Gina Romero,
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Speaker 6: the UN Special Rapporteur to the right of freedom of
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Speaker 6: peaceful assembly recently told UK civil society organizations and MPs
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Speaker 6: at a meeting in Parliament that she is seriously concerned
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Speaker 6: about these new laws and the clause on cumulative disruption
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Speaker 6: in particular. It's extraordinary really that the United Nations become
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Speaker 6: involved in what are ultimately domestic UK matters, Mike, but
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Speaker 6: that's where we are now. The Crime and Policing Bill
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Speaker 6: one that went through the Commons this week is the
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Speaker 6: third piece of anti protest legislation in recent years, and
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Speaker 6: the passing of this particular amendment now means that once
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Speaker 6: the Crime and Policing Bill becomes law, police in England
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Speaker 6: and Wales will be required to consider any past protests
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Speaker 6: or plan future protests in the same area when deciding
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Speaker 6: whether to impose restrictions or not. I might add that
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Speaker 6: they've given preference to central London to the Tommy Robinson March,
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Speaker 6: which Sharon Osborne is attending to the annual Palestine National
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Speaker 6: Day March. The size of an area is not specified,
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Speaker 6: and the police are not required to take into account
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Speaker 6: whether the protests are for the same cause or involve
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Speaker 6: the same people, which seems extraordinary. The bill is designed
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Speaker 6: so say the International Center for Justice for Palestine, to
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Speaker 6: target pro Palestine protests in particular, and of course it
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Speaker 6: gives the police in England inordinate powers against peaceful protests.
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Speaker 6: The bill is part of a wider pattern of democratic backsliding,
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Speaker 6: they point out, under both this government and previous Conservative governments.
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Speaker 6: And it's just the latest piece of legislation to hinder
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Speaker 6: our right to protest in the UK. But one dissident
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Speaker 6: from Parliament is the Labor MP Clive Lewis, who posted
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Speaker 6: on x the right to protest isn't a gift from government,
24:11
Speaker 6: It's a democratic principle, hard won and easily lost. Last night,
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Speaker 6: the government tried to smuggle through a cumulative disruption power
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Speaker 6: that would let police ban protests simply because other people
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Speaker 6: had protested in the same area. Before think about what
24:29
Speaker 6: that means. Your right to march could be extinguished by
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Speaker 6: someone else's march on an entirely different issue. He goes on.
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Speaker 6: The government knew this wouldn't survive proper scrutiny, so they
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Speaker 6: denied MP's the time.
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Speaker 3: To give it.
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Speaker 6: Any that I'm afraid to say is absolutely typical of
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Speaker 6: the authoritarian nature of this regime. Clive Lewis added, I
24:56
Speaker 6: supported the cross party motion to oppose the cumulative Disruption Amendment.
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Speaker 6: The government used its majority to force it through regardless.
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Speaker 6: Responding to the vote, Paul Parker, the recording Clerk of
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Speaker 6: the Quakers in Britain, made the following remarks. Peaceful protest
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Speaker 6: motivated by faith, belief and love should be celebrated, not criminalized.
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Speaker 6: This legislation adds to the increasingly hostile climate for protesters
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Speaker 6: who seek a better world for us. All Quakers will
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Speaker 6: continue to campaign for these measures to be repealed and
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Speaker 6: for a healthy democracy in which ordinary people can hold
25:40
Speaker 6: their leaders to account. That is what it takes to
25:44
Speaker 6: build a truly peaceful world. We have to ask ourselves
25:48
Speaker 6: whether or not this government want a healthy democracy. I
25:51
Speaker 6: think they prefer an elected dictatorship and it's extremely dubious
25:55
Speaker 6: whether they want a truly peaceful world. Is that what
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Speaker 6: this and other neocon liberal governments want. Needless to say,
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Speaker 6: this fundamental change in human rights in Britain has been
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Speaker 6: completely ignored by the Guardian and the BBC. And where
26:13
Speaker 6: are the great libertarians like David Davis when you need
26:17
Speaker 6: the mic?
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Speaker 1: Good question basil the Let's move on though, to the
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Speaker 1: film and twenty four because this of course related in
26:29
Speaker 1: many ways. But question is, have these legal problems that
26:35
Speaker 1: they've been experiencing and unlawful well, in my opinion on
26:39
Speaker 1: lawful romand situation, has this all gone away? Or is
26:44
Speaker 1: there are there still attempts to get these people back
26:46
Speaker 1: into prison?
26:48
Speaker 6: Well, a very good question, Mike. What have tread very
26:50
Speaker 6: carefully around this subject now? Because the Gray Zone Max
26:54
Speaker 6: Blumenthal reported midweek on social media that they some form
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Speaker 6: of government reporting restriction on the retrial of six of
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Speaker 6: the accused who were already acquitted. In fact, the only
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Speaker 6: article I can find published online comes from Newsline, which
27:14
Speaker 6: is the official organ of the Worker's Revolutionary Party of
27:18
Speaker 6: all things, Vanessa Redgray's former political home, and they've published
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Speaker 6: a piece saying the retrail of the film twenty four
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Speaker 6: opened at Willis Ground Court in southeast London yesterday with
27:28
Speaker 6: scores of demonstrators outside supporting the accused. I think was
27:33
Speaker 6: allowed just about to report on the reporting. Zara Sultana
27:40
Speaker 6: nevertheless used parliamentary privilege to bring the matter up in
27:46
Speaker 6: the House of Commons and I hope and believe right
27:48
Speaker 6: we're allowed to play a clip of her.
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Speaker 2: Speech, Deputy Speed, I'm going to exercise privilege of this
27:55
Speaker 2: House to place something on public record that the mainstream
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Speaker 2: press have chosen to ignore. Six Palestine Action activist Space
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Speaker 2: retrial after being acquitted in February following a year in prison.
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Speaker 2: If convicted, they and eighteen others will be sentenced as terrorists,
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Speaker 2: but the jury will not be told that they could
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Speaker 2: convict them on criminal damage charges with no idea that
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Speaker 2: terrorism sentences will follow, Madam Deputy Speaker. Not a single
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Speaker 2: terrorism charge has been brought forward, the prescription has been
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Speaker 2: ruled on lawful, and the defendants themselves have been bound
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Speaker 2: from telling the jury that they acted to stop genocide
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Speaker 2: under threat of content charges. This is what a stitch
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Speaker 2: up looks like, and it's part of the same pattern
28:37
Speaker 2: a labor government that will do whatever it takes to
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Speaker 2: silence descent, protect Israeli death factories and escape accountability.
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Speaker 6: To conclude, yeah, I was naive enough to think that
28:53
Speaker 6: the genocide might lead to some sort of recalibration of
28:58
Speaker 6: the British established.
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Speaker 3: What we've seen over the.
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Speaker 6: Last two and a half years in Gaza and now
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Speaker 6: the illegal attack on Iran, the evisceration of southern eleven
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Speaker 6: and might lead to a kit of a rethink, you know,
29:14
Speaker 6: about where we stand morally in regards to these things.
29:16
Speaker 6: But it seems quite the opposite. We're in an era
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Speaker 6: now of genocide denial first and foremost, and as we're
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Speaker 6: seeing both with this new legislation and the reprosecution of
29:28
Speaker 6: six of the filt and twenty four, things seem to
29:31
Speaker 6: be heading in the opposite direction. Just to conclude the
29:33
Speaker 6: Palestine Action built in twenty four, defendants had already been
29:38
Speaker 6: acquitted in twenty twenty six. However, the Starmar government has
29:42
Speaker 6: ordered a retrial in its attempt to brand them as
29:44
Speaker 6: terrorists and justify its unlawful ban.
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Speaker 3: Betrayals are now underway in London.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, Buzil. Thank you Patrick. Let's go
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Speaker 1: back to the United States for a second, and well,
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Speaker 1: what is going on with response with respector Tucker Carlson.
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Speaker 4: Well, a lot's going on with respect to Tucker Carlson.
30:08
Speaker 4: But I might add just quickly to what Basil said,
30:11
Speaker 4: there may be another genocide case at the ICJ against
30:16
Speaker 4: Israel for the ethnic cleansing and intended genocide of South Lebanon,
30:21
Speaker 4: which is currently under way. So that's just on the side.
30:24
Speaker 4: You know, that story just keeps expanding. But the pushing
30:28
Speaker 4: back about the IHR a definition of anti Semitism, This
30:32
Speaker 4: is a debate that we're very familiar with. In the UK,
30:36
Speaker 4: it basically transformed politics, changed the Labor Party. This one
30:41
Speaker 4: issue hasn't really been debated in the United States because
30:45
Speaker 4: this hasn't really been pushed to the top of the
30:48
Speaker 4: sort of news cycle, the headlines, because the IHR definition
30:53
Speaker 4: hadn't really been imposed aggressively in the United States until now.
30:57
Speaker 4: And I'm going to play this. Tucker Carlson has noticed
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Speaker 4: this and has really blown this thing wide open this week.
31:04
Speaker 4: We have just a brief clip here.
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Speaker 7: We have a whole new civic religion, and that civic
31:12
Speaker 7: religion once again is called Israelism. And it means that
31:15
Speaker 7: any criticism of Israel is by definition bad, and any
31:19
Speaker 7: praise of Israel is by definition virtuous because the only
31:22
Speaker 7: truly good thing is Israel. And we know that by
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Speaker 7: the actual definition, and there is one of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 7: So what is anti Semitism? And if you've been called it,
31:36
Speaker 7: or if someone's ever implied it, you have a problem
31:37
Speaker 7: with the Jews you're kind of obsessed with the Jews,
31:40
Speaker 7: say people who are completely obsessed with the Jews. You
31:43
Speaker 7: probably wonder, like, what are they accusing me of? Well,
31:45
Speaker 7: here it is. This is the i h R, a
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Speaker 7: International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance IHR. You may hear this, the
31:54
Speaker 7: IHR a definition of anti Semitism. Do you know what
31:57
Speaker 7: it is? It's on their website. It's worth looking at,
31:59
Speaker 7: spend the morning reading it.
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Speaker 4: Fascinating.
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Speaker 7: So here's the actual definition of anti Semitism. And by
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Speaker 7: the way, this is a now globally recognized definition enshrimed
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Speaker 7: in law around the world in more than forty countries.
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Speaker 7: This is the definition, and I'm quoting. Anti Semitism is
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Speaker 7: a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as
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Speaker 7: hatred George Jews. Huh so anti Semitism is a perception,
32:26
Speaker 7: it's a feeling. Okay, I thought you'll have to have
32:30
Speaker 7: any feeling or perception you wanted. You could look at
32:32
Speaker 7: facts and come to any conclusion you wanted. No, no, no, no.
32:36
Speaker 7: Certain perceptions are inherently immoral. They're quote anti Semitic, which
32:42
Speaker 7: may be expressed as hatred George Jews. Oh so you
32:45
Speaker 7: don't have to hate the Jews to be anti Semitic. No, Well,
32:48
Speaker 7: that answers the question for those of us who don't
32:51
Speaker 7: hate Jews at all, how could you be anti Semitic
32:54
Speaker 7: if you don't hate Jews? Will you can be? According
32:56
Speaker 7: to the official definition of it, continueing the quote rhetorical
33:01
Speaker 7: rhetorical meaning talking words speech formally protected no longer rhetorical
33:07
Speaker 7: and physical manifest The stations of anti Semitism are directed
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Speaker 7: toward Jewish or non Jewish individuals and or their property,
33:15
Speaker 7: toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities. Wait a second,
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Speaker 7: So anti Semitism is not necessarily hatred of Jews, and
33:24
Speaker 7: it can be expressed toward non Jews. So you don't
33:26
Speaker 7: have to hate Jews, and you don't have to express
33:30
Speaker 7: or have these perceptions, these feelings toward Jews. You can
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Speaker 7: be non Jews too. What is this?
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Speaker 4: Well, good to see the discussion expanding, and I think
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Speaker 4: this is going to probably create a lot of pushback
33:47
Speaker 4: on the IHR definition internationally, but we'll wait and see.
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33:56
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35:49
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35:53
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35:58
Speaker 1: in our lives. There are article focuses on music, but
36:02
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36:04
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36:09
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Speaker 1: the You and General Assembly, when he was talking about
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Speaker 1: Israel's influence campaigns.
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Speaker 4: Christian influencers.
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Speaker 8: Okay, you said, we talked about the woke right, and
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Speaker 8: he said, I call it the woke right.
36:34
Speaker 4: That's a brilliant The woke right because.
36:38
Speaker 8: These people, you know, they're not any different from me
36:41
Speaker 8: woke the left. I mean, they're they're insane, they're losing,
36:45
Speaker 8: but they're actually meeting on some.
36:46
Speaker 4: Of those things.
36:47
Speaker 8: And what we have to do is we have to
36:49
Speaker 8: secure that part of the base of our support in
36:53
Speaker 8: the United States that is being challenged systematically. A lot
36:57
Speaker 8: of this is done with money, money of NGOs, money
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Speaker 8: of governments.
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Speaker 3: Faster.
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Speaker 4: Okay, we have to fight back.
37:07
Speaker 3: How do we fight back our influencers.
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Speaker 8: I think you should also talk to them if you
37:12
Speaker 8: have a chance to that community.
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Speaker 4: They're very important.
37:17
Speaker 8: And secondly, we're going to have to use the tools
37:20
Speaker 8: of battle.
37:21
Speaker 4: You know, the weapons change over time. You can't fight
37:24
Speaker 4: to do with the swords. That doesn't work very well.
37:29
Speaker 1: So absolutely acknowledging that Israel has influencers, They're paying for influencers.
37:34
Speaker 1: And of course, as he says, once you get governments,
37:39
Speaker 1: as governments get control of and start funding these types
37:43
Speaker 1: of influencer campaigns, then that affects us on a daily basis.
37:48
Speaker 1: And then we have the likes of this from Plymouth
37:51
Speaker 1: Life because the question is whether we want to live
37:55
Speaker 1: or die? Is even an influencer type of operations. So
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Speaker 1: the headline here is devon mum wants to die under
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Speaker 1: her oak tree, but politicians would let her and this
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Speaker 1: is absolutely a pr driven article.
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Speaker 3: And so on.
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Speaker 1: So if all that's not bad enough, we have the
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Speaker 1: latest efforts then by the Starmer government to control the
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Speaker 1: narrative with the calling of social media companies into dining
38:24
Speaker 1: Street yesterday. So let's bring that on screen. There they
38:28
Speaker 1: all are sitting around now. They he was talking about
38:35
Speaker 1: looking the other way is not an option, he said.
38:38
Speaker 1: The attendees named sorry. He was saying social media ships,
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Speaker 1: how our children see themselves, their friendships and the world
38:46
Speaker 1: around them. When that risk, when that comes with real risks,
38:49
Speaker 1: looking the other way is not an option. The attendees
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Speaker 1: that were at this were running Harris Who's from Snap,
38:56
Speaker 1: will Fredos Fernandez from x Alistair Law from TikTok, kid
39:01
Speaker 1: Alessi from Google, and Marcus Ranich from Meta. So they're
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Speaker 1: all represented. And of course this as usual as being
39:08
Speaker 1: done under the cover of protecting children, as that quote implies.
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Speaker 1: I remember the whole online Safety regime began in the
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Speaker 1: UK with a similar demand that social media companies attend
39:21
Speaker 1: dining Street back in twenty seventeen, then it was terrorism
39:25
Speaker 1: which was the cause celeb and it was Theresa May
39:28
Speaker 1: who was the Prime Minister at the time. And as
39:32
Speaker 1: the censorship regime was rolled out, while those offering people
39:36
Speaker 1: an explanation of events country to that the British regime
39:40
Speaker 1: we were wanting to put forward, people were increasingly subject
39:46
Speaker 1: to takedowns in channel closures. In the meantime, British funded
39:50
Speaker 1: and armed Islamist in Syria and other places seemed to
39:53
Speaker 1: be free to publish their propaganda as they liked on
39:56
Speaker 1: social media, and today while those opposing the war machine
40:00
Speaker 1: continue to be deplatformed in shadow band child grooming continues
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Speaker 1: because the mechanisms that offcom as a result of the
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Speaker 1: online safety actors put in the place are only about
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Speaker 1: digital ID for access to adults content and restriction on
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Speaker 1: adults posing as children doesn't seem to be a thing.
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Speaker 1: And just to be clear, I'm not calling for children
40:21
Speaker 1: to be brought into the digital ID regime here.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: The aim seems to be that bands on children being
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Speaker 1: on social media at all, as in Australia, so that's
40:33
Speaker 1: the aims the band children for being on social media
40:35
Speaker 1: at all, but that doesn't work, as if discovered in Australia.
40:39
Speaker 1: In March twenty twenty six, the Molly Rose Foundation conducted
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Speaker 1: a large scale poll of Australian's age between twelve and
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Speaker 1: fifteen on the social media ban and they discovered that
40:53
Speaker 1: basically it wasn't working. So although there was apparently a
40:59
Speaker 1: reduction in the number of twelve to fifteen year olds
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Speaker 1: who were using social media, in fact, of course, they
41:05
Speaker 1: acknowledged that as a result of the polling, many of
41:09
Speaker 1: the children were talking about in fact, seventy percent of
41:13
Speaker 1: them were saying that the restrictions were easy to circumvent,
41:17
Speaker 1: particularly with the use of VPNs and so on. So
41:21
Speaker 1: this continues. But in the meantime, while there's this continuing
41:25
Speaker 1: effort to shut down any counter narratives are kinter efforts
41:31
Speaker 1: to counter the mainstream or the government narratives of the day,
41:35
Speaker 1: the mainstream media itself continues to be utterly controlled. And
41:39
Speaker 1: this is the Daily Telegraph and the News that the
41:44
Speaker 1: new buyers of the Daily Telegraph are basically telling them
41:47
Speaker 1: they've got to absolutely support Israel and that it's mandatory
41:52
Speaker 1: to support Israel in fact, but of course it's not
41:57
Speaker 1: just the Daily Telegraph that subject this the BBC as well,
42:02
Speaker 1: and so the BBC in fact, during their journalism training
42:07
Speaker 1: requires all their journalists while they're being trained to go
42:11
Speaker 1: through mandatory anti Semitism training and so on. So, you know,
42:15
Speaker 1: this is an increasing situation that we have patrick of
42:19
Speaker 1: control of the narrative with respect to Israel, but in
42:23
Speaker 1: fact with respect everything actually more and more efforts to
42:26
Speaker 1: control that with social media and with people commenting on
42:31
Speaker 1: what's in the mainstream media, while at the same time
42:34
Speaker 1: the mainstream media absolutely controlled from within as well.
42:40
Speaker 4: Sure, the problem is, how come this wasn't a problem
42:43
Speaker 4: for the last twenty five years of the Internet. Why
42:46
Speaker 4: is it suddenly something that's threatening the fabric of society today?
42:52
Speaker 4: Why should everybody have to give up their rights to
42:55
Speaker 4: privacy or have to adopt a digital id regime? Why
42:59
Speaker 4: to to protect a smaller amount of society or the
43:06
Speaker 4: children in certain countries Allegedly, when parents could be protecting
43:11
Speaker 4: their children just by restricting their act by being actual
43:15
Speaker 4: parents and monitoring and supervising their children's access to smartphones
43:21
Speaker 4: or things like that. So every adult has to basically
43:25
Speaker 4: lose their rights in order to quote protect the children.
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Speaker 4: Something just doesn't add up with this at all, and
43:31
Speaker 4: this seems to be the main vector of attack by
43:35
Speaker 4: the state on everybody's rights and everybody's individual freedoms.
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Speaker 1: That's absolutely right, Patrick. This attack is on the adults,
43:45
Speaker 1: but it's also on the children, because very much part
43:47
Speaker 1: of what was coming out of Starmer yesterday was a
43:51
Speaker 1: concern about what children's worldview was going to be as
43:54
Speaker 1: they grew up, So that they're clearly attempting to get
43:58
Speaker 1: hold of that worldview from the earliest ditch and make
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Speaker 1: sure that as children get towards adulthood in the not
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Speaker 1: too distant future, that they have the right worldview as
44:07
Speaker 1: far as the establishment is concerned. Now, of course, I
44:14
Speaker 1: suppose in a central letter Basil Volunteer and is in
44:18
Speaker 1: the center of all this to some degree. But the
44:22
Speaker 1: question of Volunteer's access to NHS did it is one
44:25
Speaker 1: that continues to rumble on. So what's the letters on it?
44:29
Speaker 6: Yes, Myke, no doubt Panenteer would like to be at
44:31
Speaker 6: the center of all data gathering with respect to UK citizens.
44:35
Speaker 6: But the involvement of Peter Thield's company in the NHS
44:39
Speaker 6: is a story we've been following for a few weeks
44:43
Speaker 6: now here on Fridays on UK column, and I'm pleased
44:47
Speaker 6: to say the campaign to get them kicked out of
44:50
Speaker 6: the NHS to start with, hopefully from all the other
44:52
Speaker 6: government contracts they've got, is gathering pace. MPs are apparently
44:57
Speaker 6: now queuing up to demand that the government scrap its
45:01
Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty million pounds NHS contract with the
45:05
Speaker 6: Zionist spy tech firm, calling it dreadful and shameful in
45:10
Speaker 6: a debate yesterday, after which the government themselves said apparently
45:15
Speaker 6: that it was I quote, no fan of the US
45:19
Speaker 6: company's policies. Labor and Liberal Democrat MPs led the calls
45:24
Speaker 6: for the firm, which also works for Donald Trump's Ice
45:28
Speaker 6: immigration crackdown and of course the Israelian military, to be
45:31
Speaker 6: removed as the supplier to the NHS federated data platform,
45:36
Speaker 6: the FDP, with the Labor backbencher Samantha Nibblett in particular
45:42
Speaker 6: questioning whether or not it could be trusted as a
45:45
Speaker 6: custodian of the intimate health records of tens of millions
45:50
Speaker 6: of British citizens. The Lib dem MP Louke Taylor called
45:55
Speaker 6: the deal shameful and said pallanteer and Peter Teel must
46:00
Speaker 6: have their hands ripped off NHS before it's too late.
46:05
Speaker 6: So it seems we really are making some progress on
46:09
Speaker 6: this issue now. This week on Politics Live Volunteers UK
46:14
Speaker 6: boss with Louis Moseley was quietly eviscerated by the academic
46:19
Speaker 6: Paiza Shaheen. Now incidentally, Shaheen stood as a Labor candidate
46:22
Speaker 6: in the twenty nineteen general election and lost, and was
46:25
Speaker 6: then selected again by her local Labor party in twenty
46:29
Speaker 6: twenty two, but was not endorsed by Central Office. In
46:32
Speaker 6: July twenty twenty four, when, of course Peter Mandelson and
46:36
Speaker 6: Morgan McSweeney were known to be combing through the prospective
46:39
Speaker 6: candidates list and weeding out anybody who they didn't like.
46:44
Speaker 6: She obviously fell foul of them and stood as an independent,
46:47
Speaker 6: but wasn't elected anyway, Let's see her quiet takedown of
46:52
Speaker 6: Louis Moseley and Pallenteer. Now, yeah, with the.
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Speaker 9: NHS, but you spoke there about it. It's not political.
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Speaker 9: Like Panta has such a key role in helping Israel
47:05
Speaker 9: kill children in Palestine and Lebanon, that has to be
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Speaker 9: aligned surely, And what does a company that is so
47:13
Speaker 9: involved in how to kill children with Israel and how
47:17
Speaker 9: to deport children from the US have an interest in
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Speaker 9: the NHS and in our data, and I think that's
47:24
Speaker 9: the concern here is the.
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Speaker 4: Lack of trust.
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Speaker 9: Now you can read out that list. Absolutely speak to doctors.
47:29
Speaker 9: They say that it's fragmented and the information isn't all
47:32
Speaker 9: in one place and the rest of it as patients
47:34
Speaker 9: as well. But there's lots of other companies that could
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Speaker 9: do that who don't have this deeply immoral approach in
47:39
Speaker 9: the way that they do their business. And I think
47:42
Speaker 9: we are absolutely right, and Zack Planski is absolutely right
47:45
Speaker 9: to say that we want your company out of.
47:47
Speaker 6: The NHL.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 6: In response to the MP's calls, the government confirmed it
47:57
Speaker 6: will consider whether to continue the deal when a break
48:01
Speaker 6: clause is due in spring of next year, although two
48:05
Speaker 6: hundred and ten million pounds of the three hundred and
48:08
Speaker 6: thirty million has already been spent. Now as a coda
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Speaker 6: to this, in the face of rising pressure from doctor's
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Speaker 6: MPs and the public, doctor Zubia Armed, a junior health minister,
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Speaker 6: said if at that point in the break clause, we
48:22
Speaker 6: evaluate and we find there are other providers that can
48:25
Speaker 6: do the job better then, of course that needs to
48:29
Speaker 6: be looked at. But while MPs may be allowed to
48:33
Speaker 6: criticize Palenteer, as we've pointed out before, you can lose
48:37
Speaker 6: your job in the NHS if you join the chorus.
48:41
Speaker 6: According to the FT and Analytics officer who'd raise concerned
48:45
Speaker 6: about Palenteer's Federal Data Platform was told by a senior
48:50
Speaker 6: NHS official, if you criticize the FDP one more time,
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Speaker 6: you're going to lose your job.
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Speaker 1: Can we say, Basil, it's an interesting world. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: about this an extra as well. Let's move on then
49:06
Speaker 1: to the COVID inquiry, because the release of the report
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Speaker 1: into modul from Module four of the inquiry offers no
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Speaker 1: surprises whatsoever. The module was about vaccines and therapeutics. So
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Speaker 1: let's have a listen to hire. The right honorable Baroness
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Speaker 1: hallad dB, chair of the COVID nineteen Inquiry, launched the report.
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Speaker 10: Today I published the fourth report of a UK COVID
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Speaker 10: nineteen inquiry. It covers the development and deployment of vaccines
49:39
Speaker 10: and therapeutics in the UK during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
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Speaker 10: In many ways, the development, manufacture and distribution of effective
49:48
Speaker 10: vaccines to prevent COVID nineteen and the identification of an
49:53
Speaker 10: effective therapeutic or drug to treat COVID patients are two
49:58
Speaker 10: of the success stories of the pandemic. The COVID nineteen
50:01
Speaker 10: pandemic was caused by a new pathogen, SARS CoV two.
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Speaker 10: As a result, there were no vaccines and no clinically
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Speaker 10: proven therapeutics or drugs available to combat the disease at
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Speaker 10: the start of the pandemic. The discovery, development and approval
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Speaker 10: of new vaccines can take between ten and twenty years,
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Speaker 10: but within a year of its first case of COVID nineteen,
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Speaker 10: the UK had developed the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine and had
50:33
Speaker 10: authorized access to two more, the PFISA Bioenttech and the
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Speaker 10: MODERNA vaccines. It began vaccinating in December twenty twenty before
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Speaker 10: any other European country. In twenty twenty one, about one
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Speaker 10: hundred and thirty two million COVID nineteen vaccinations were given
50:55
Speaker 10: across the four nations of the UK, making it the
50:59
Speaker 10: largest vaccination program in the UK history.
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Speaker 1: So She went on to claim that something like four
51:09
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand lives received by the rollout of
51:12
Speaker 1: the jobs but not only the jobs saved lives. She
51:15
Speaker 1: said that dexamethasone, which she said the UK's recovery trial
51:21
Speaker 1: identified as arguably the single most important therapeutic of the pandemic,
51:26
Speaker 1: had saved twenty two thousand lives in the UK and
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Speaker 1: one million lives globally. Because we must always remember that
51:34
Speaker 1: vaccines alone are not enough, she said. And she claimed
51:37
Speaker 1: that lower vaccine uptake in deprived and ethnic minority communities
51:41
Speaker 1: wasn't just driven by online misinformation. She said a lack
51:45
Speaker 1: of trust and confidence and authority itself was a significant
51:49
Speaker 1: contributing factor, and that governments now rebuild that trust. She
51:54
Speaker 1: said that she didn't demonstrate that these communities suffered worse
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Speaker 1: result of this lawer uptick. By the way, now the
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Speaker 1: numbers look like a triumph.
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Speaker 3: She said.
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Speaker 1: Eighty seven to ninety percent of UK adults received at
52:08
Speaker 1: least one dose by mid twenty twenty one, and as
52:13
Speaker 1: a result of the UK's pandemic era capability in research
52:16
Speaker 1: task force and rapid regulatory approval. She said that that
52:20
Speaker 1: must not be allowed to wather. She did give a
52:24
Speaker 1: nod to the vaccine injured justified let's just have a
52:28
Speaker 1: quick listen to what she said about them.
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Speaker 10: Tragically, a number of people suffered harm as a result
52:35
Speaker 10: of having a vaccine. This was a small minority compared
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Speaker 10: to the overall scale of the vaccination program, but of
52:44
Speaker 10: no less importance to the individuals affected and their families.
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Speaker 10: I had moving evidence of representatives from the vaccine injured
52:53
Speaker 10: and bereaved core participant groups who have often felt silenced, ignored,
52:58
Speaker 10: or treated as a vaccine deniers. Similar experiences were also
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Speaker 10: described to the Inquiry through its listening exercise. Every story matters.
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Speaker 10: It is vital in the context of the whole population
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Speaker 10: vaccination program, in which the state is asking people to
53:16
Speaker 10: be vaccinated in part to protect others, that people are
53:20
Speaker 10: adequately supported when side effects do occur. A sufficiently supportive
53:26
Speaker 10: government scheme must be in place to help such people
53:29
Speaker 10: and their loved ones. I have found that the current
53:33
Speaker 10: scheme for those who've been injured as a result of
53:36
Speaker 10: having a vaccine, the vaccine damage Payment scheme, is not
53:40
Speaker 10: sufficiently supportive and requires reform.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's all well and good, but there's been no
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Speaker 1: long term study into the health outcomes of the vaccine
53:51
Speaker 1: donitsy and while mentally wholly anecdotal. It looks very much
53:56
Speaker 1: to me like people are generally much iller since the
54:00
Speaker 1: so called successful role out of these vaccines. Patrick, you know,
54:05
Speaker 1: you've been working with us for many, many years, and
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Speaker 1: you were with us all the way through this whole
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Speaker 1: COVID Sharad, I don't know what your thoughts are on
54:13
Speaker 1: what you've just seen there, but you know this was clearly,
54:17
Speaker 1: despite what she may have said about the vaccine injured,
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Speaker 1: a total sales pitch for the whole vaccine industry and
54:24
Speaker 1: MHRA infrastructure.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty clear she was just giving lip service
54:30
Speaker 4: to the vaccine injured there, just to include it, I mean,
54:33
Speaker 4: just's but she's still acknowledging that it's a massive problem.
54:37
Speaker 4: But the overwhelming, the overwhelming focus, the overwhelming thrust of
54:41
Speaker 4: her presentation seemed to be just promoting deregulation of the
54:46
Speaker 4: pharmaceutical industrial complex. She's basically flacking for the vaccine industry there.
54:52
Speaker 4: That's all that was. It seemed like an advert for
54:55
Speaker 4: you know, Operation warp Speed. Let's keep this powerful case
55:00
Speaker 4: ability of the government here to completely remove all the guardrails.
55:03
Speaker 4: Let's just keep that in place just in case we
55:06
Speaker 4: might need that in the future. And oh, by the way,
55:08
Speaker 4: we're really concerned about the vaccine injured and we need
55:11
Speaker 4: to do more to help them. And every view matters,
55:15
Speaker 4: every story matters. I love that strap line.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, let's move back to international affairs. Patrick then
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Speaker 1: and the question of the Pope and the Trump's continuing
55:27
Speaker 1: argument with the Pope.
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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know if you had covered this earlier
55:32
Speaker 4: in the week, and apologies if you have, but you know,
55:34
Speaker 4: Trump declared himself as Jesus earlier in the week by
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Speaker 4: posting something on social media, which he of course admitted
55:43
Speaker 4: he posted but said I wasn't. At the end he
55:45
Speaker 4: backed down, said it wasn't Jesus. I was pretending to
55:48
Speaker 4: be a Red Cross doctor. But it has caused a
55:51
Speaker 4: huge floor or with the Catholic Church, and there's a
55:55
Speaker 4: lot of pushback right across the board. He's been completely
55:58
Speaker 4: disowned by previous supporters and organizations. This is important because
56:05
Speaker 4: the Catholic Conservatives formed the moral majority that you know,
56:09
Speaker 4: the Reagan Movement put together in the eighties. It's part
56:12
Speaker 4: of that coalition. This has now been fractured by Trump.
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Speaker 4: Here's a clip right here. I don't know if we
56:19
Speaker 4: have this listen to what he says. He's putting words
56:23
Speaker 4: in the mouth of the Pope here.
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Speaker 5: Siding with the pose, And aren't you worryings upsetting your No, No,
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Speaker 5: I don't.
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Speaker 11: I have to do what's right. The Pope has to
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Speaker 11: understands that, very simple. I have nothing against the Pope,
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Speaker 11: his brothers Maga all the way. I like his brother Lewis.
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Speaker 11: I'm not fighting with him. The Pope made a statement,
56:43
Speaker 11: he says Iran can have a nuclear weapon. I say
56:46
Speaker 11: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. And if the Pope
56:49
Speaker 11: looked at the forty two thousand people that were killed
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Speaker 11: over the last two or three months as a protester
56:55
Speaker 11: with no weapons.
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Speaker 3: No nothing, I mean, you take a look at that.
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Speaker 11: So I could disagree with the puff.
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Speaker 3: I have recognition.
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Speaker 4: Listen, Donald Trump himself boasted that he sent weapons to
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Speaker 4: the protesters, So he's putting words into the mouth of
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Speaker 4: the Pope. Never said that he wants Iran to have
57:17
Speaker 4: a nuclear weapons. So Trump's lying means one thing to
57:21
Speaker 4: do this type of gaslighting to other politicians, but it's
57:24
Speaker 4: another thing to project your lie onto the most famous
57:29
Speaker 4: religious leader in Christianity globally. I mean it's It really
57:34
Speaker 4: kind of shows you that this president, this person a
57:38
Speaker 4: zero self awareness and zero control over his sort of
57:42
Speaker 4: habitual lying and projecting and so forth. So it's really
57:45
Speaker 4: I mean to hurt the credibility and just on his side.
57:49
Speaker 4: Here's the reaction of the Pope, will bring this up
57:51
Speaker 4: on screen. This is Pope Leo on Twitter. Basically stern
57:55
Speaker 4: words here actually from the Pope, woe to those who
58:00
Speaker 4: manipulate religion and the very name of God for their
58:03
Speaker 4: own military, economic, and political gain, dragging that which is
58:08
Speaker 4: sacred into darkness and filth. So this is the American Pope.
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Speaker 4: Trump bragged, he said he would never have been Pope
58:15
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for me. They only selected him because
58:18
Speaker 4: I was president. They needed somebody in the Vatican that
58:21
Speaker 4: could deal with me. That's literally what Trump said earlier
58:25
Speaker 4: in the week. So he's also Pete Hegseth is also
58:30
Speaker 4: at war with the Vatican and JD. Vance. I could
58:33
Speaker 4: do a whole segment on Vance, but just suffice to
58:35
Speaker 4: say he basically piled in behind Trump and just insulted
58:41
Speaker 4: the Pope and accused him of not knowing anything about theology.
58:44
Speaker 4: So this is Jade Vance, who who on the campaign trail,
58:48
Speaker 4: converted to Catholicism and then has a book out this
58:51
Speaker 4: week on his faith journey and his conversion. It so
58:56
Speaker 4: reminds me of the performative Tony Blair also converted to Catholicism,
59:02
Speaker 4: really to somehow shore up his flailing political legacy in
59:08
Speaker 4: the wake of the Iraq War tobaccle. But you know,
59:12
Speaker 4: so JD. Vance is kind of like the white Obama
59:15
Speaker 4: and in that sense, And now we have Georgia Maloney
59:19
Speaker 4: basically splitting with Trump on this issue. Trump tried to
59:22
Speaker 4: put a wedge between the Vatican and the Italian government.
59:25
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you that's never going to end. Well,
59:28
Speaker 4: So this just continues, and it really is having major
59:32
Speaker 4: effects on the electoral map coming up for the midterms.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Patrick. Then there was the question of sorry,
59:44
Speaker 1: who was the Joe Kent?
59:45
Speaker 4: Yes, oh so yeah, not to forget the other whistle blower,
59:51
Speaker 4: Joe Kent, Trump's former counter terrorism chief. He's thrown him
59:55
Speaker 4: under the bus, as we predicted. So he's Trump's called
59:59
Speaker 4: Joe Kent loser in a sleezebag. I think so everybody
1:00:05
Speaker 4: who supported Donald Trump, this is like the ongoing pattern.
1:00:08
Speaker 4: Everyone who supports Trump who is with him. If they
1:00:11
Speaker 4: break on any issue or on principle or anything, he
1:00:14
Speaker 4: basically attacks them. So he demands loyalty, but he's not
1:00:17
Speaker 4: loyal to anybody. Eventually he will attack pretty much everybody.
1:00:22
Speaker 4: And Joe Kent was absolutely a Trump Lawyers was even
1:00:26
Speaker 4: singing the president's praise after he resigned from his position
1:00:30
Speaker 4: as counter terrorism chief. I don't think that's going to
1:00:32
Speaker 4: continue after this latest tweet, but just follows a very
1:00:37
Speaker 4: very clear pattern with this president.
1:00:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, Basil, let's welcome you back then, and just
1:00:44
Speaker 1: very quickly run through some items in case we all
1:00:48
Speaker 1: missed them.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, these all made the news during the week, but
1:00:54
Speaker 6: might have slipped through your nets.
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Speaker 3: Let's have the first slide up.
1:01:01
Speaker 6: So, yes, it seems private companies are making millions out
1:01:05
Speaker 6: of the NHS. Who knew that all this subcontracting would
1:01:09
Speaker 6: mean that literally hundreds of millions of pounds are being
1:01:13
Speaker 6: leached out of frontline patient care into the profit margins
1:01:18
Speaker 6: of private companies and their shareholders. Entirely predictable. Next up,
1:01:26
Speaker 6: we've got the very sad news that children are suffering
1:01:31
Speaker 6: at the poorest in society. Of course, in this neoliberal era.
1:01:36
Speaker 6: We can't possibly tax the rich or revert to the
1:01:39
Speaker 6: social democracy of the nineteen seventies. My goodness, what could
1:01:42
Speaker 6: be worse. Well, it's much better to have children suffering
1:01:46
Speaker 6: malnutrition than to tax the rich.
1:01:48
Speaker 3: Obviously, that's the world we live in.
1:01:50
Speaker 6: Next up, we've got some of the next one there.
1:01:55
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well, this is something we need to look
1:01:58
Speaker 6: at in detailing more in the future. Labor Together, it seems,
1:02:04
Speaker 6: is basically an organization designed and conceived purely to protect
1:02:11
Speaker 6: the Labor Party from becoming in any way less committed
1:02:16
Speaker 6: to Zionism, and the rump of it is now led
1:02:19
Speaker 6: by Jonathan Kestenbaum, who fought for the IDF Apparently that's
1:02:24
Speaker 6: the degree to which the Zionists have got their clause
1:02:27
Speaker 6: into the Labor Party. And finally, is something a bit
1:02:32
Speaker 6: more cheerful. Somebody believed to be the owner of the
1:02:36
Speaker 6: horse JP McManus placed a one hundred thousand pound bet
1:02:42
Speaker 6: on his horse I Am Maximus to win the Grand
1:02:46
Speaker 6: National last Saturday at odds of eight to one. The horse,
1:02:50
Speaker 6: trained by the Great Willie Mullins, a living legend, duly
1:02:55
Speaker 6: dotted up and won his second Grand National shades of
1:03:00
Speaker 6: red Run because he came second last year and one
1:03:02
Speaker 6: in two years ago. So is believe it was JP,
1:03:05
Speaker 6: who's a fearless punt. He made fortunes betting on horses. Yes,
1:03:09
Speaker 6: it can be done, you just have to pick the
1:03:11
Speaker 6: right ones. That's what it's all about. He won eight
1:03:14
Speaker 6: hundred thousand pounds and it's perfectly genuine bet.
1:03:19
Speaker 3: It was recorded.
1:03:20
Speaker 6: The bookie who laid it was interviewed on Racing TV.
1:03:23
Speaker 6: He managed to lay some of it off. That means
1:03:26
Speaker 6: he had a bet with another book maker. It slightly
1:03:28
Speaker 6: bigger odds for a portion of the bet, and of
1:03:31
Speaker 6: course the way bookmakers operators, they take bets on other
1:03:34
Speaker 6: horses to offset their losses should that one win. So
1:03:37
Speaker 6: don't we for the bookies, but one hundred grand biggest
1:03:40
Speaker 6: bet I've seen in a long long time.
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Speaker 1: Brilliant, bazzil, brilliant. Thank you for leaving us on that note.
1:03:47
Speaker 1: We will undireedly talk more about all of this in
1:03:51
Speaker 1: extra in a few minutes, and maybe Buzzle, we'll talk
1:03:53
Speaker 1: about your successes or not last weekend as well. But anyway,
1:03:58
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