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Episode 39: Christina Morris - Labor Day Bonus Episode · Deadly Divas True Crime Podcast

• 0:12
  Hello, all you true crime divas and dudes.
• 0:14
  I'm Sarah.
• 0:14
  Welcome back to your favorite true crime podcast, Deadly Divas.
• 0:18
  And I'm Tina.
• 0:19
  And if you're new here, welcome.
• 0:22
  We break down a new true crime case for you every Friday.
• 0:26
  But this is a Labor Day bonus episode in between Friday releases, so you're welcome.
• 0:32
  Yay.
• 0:34
  And by the way, y'all, I know absolutely nothing about this one, so I can't wait to see what unfolds.
• 0:42
  Yeah.
• 0:42
  All right.
• 0:43
  So this case takes place in 2014 in Plano, Texas, following a Labor Day weekend party Christina Morris was born in Allen, Texas in 1991 to her parents, mother Johnnie and her father Mark, and she had two siblings.
• 1:01
  And I changed that to mother and father because when I first said to her parents Johnnie and Mark, I was like,"People are gonna think this is a gay couple." Right.
• 1:09
  Which would be absolutely fine if it was, but her mother's name was Johnnie.
• 1:14
  Right.
• 1:14
  I think that's kinda cute.
• 1:16
  It is kinda cute.
• 1:17
  Yeah.
• 1:18
  Yeah.
• 1:19
  So Christina met her friend Paulina at Allen High School, which they both attended, and when Christina graduated, she went to the University of Texas, where she graduated with a marketing degree in 2013.
• 1:32
  She worked at a dating company.
• 1:35
  She did their marketing- Mm in Fort Worth, Texas, and Paulina works at an insurance company in Plano.
• 1:42
  Now, the two remained friends, although Christina now lives in Fort Worth with her boyfriend and does not see Paulina as much as they used to.
• 1:51
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:51
  So she had been dating her boyfriend, Hunter Foster, for about a year.
• 1:55
  For most of that year, supporting him while he was unsuccessfully trying to become a male model.
• 2:03
  I'm already pissed off.
• 2:05
  I already know where this is going, and I'm already mad.
• 2:07
  You know what's funny as well?
• 2:09
  And there, there's a few random documentaries about this here and there.
• 2:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 2:13
  On one of them, it was a real sarcastic host.
• 2:16
  I, I think he's Irish.
• 2:18
  Mm-hmm.
• 2:18
  I have to send it to you,'cause he was, like, obviously not a smart model, because to remember his name, he had it tattooed, and he's got Hunter in big letters all down the side.
• 2:29
  What a fucking idiot.
• 2:31
  Just a bum.
• 2:32
  I already know he's a bum.
• 2:35
  So the relationship was rocky at best, and they frequently argued.
• 2:39
  I'm shocked.
• 2:40
  Right.
• 2:41
  Oh, look after me while I become a male model.
• 2:45
  I can't even remember my own name.
• 2:48
  I had to have it tattooed on myself.
• 2:50
  Anyway, so on this weekend, Christina was going to hang out with Paulina, and after meeting up at Paulina's apartment with other friends of Paulina's, the group go to a couple of bars.
• 3:01
  They stay out till about 2:00 AM, then they get food at the drive-through like you do, and then they go back to Paulina's apartment to hang out a little bit longer with the group of friends.
• 3:12
  Now, Christina had gone by herself.
• 3:14
  Mm-hmm.
• 3:15
  But she tries to get hold of her boyfriend, Hunter, asking him to come and get her and take her home, but he doesn't pick up.
• 3:22
  Mm.
• 3:23
  He's actually gone off on some boys' night in Fort Worth.
• 3:26
  What a...
• 3:27
  So I'm shocked.
• 3:28
  Right.
• 3:29
  I'm shocked that he's not supportive.
• 3:31
  What?
• 3:32
  I wonder who paid for this night out of his.
• 3:34
  Right?
• 3:34
  Right?
• 3:35
  They'd had an argument earlier in the day when Christina had asked him to come with her to Paulina's for the night, and he had refused, and instead went out with his friends.
• 3:45
  Her phone battery starts dying, so she starts to ask people at the party that she knew well if they could drive her home, but most of them have had too much to drink.
• 3:53
  One friend, Steven, offers to drive her home in the morning if she could stay overnight at Paulina's, but she decides to drive herself home after all, as she has work in the morning.
• 4:05
  She texts Hunter to let him know that she is heading home, but he still doesn't reply.
• 4:10
  And another guest at the party, whom she doesn't know very well, Enrique Arochi, offers to walk her to her car.
• 4:18
  Steven, the friend that she'd asked to drive her home, he's kind of worried about her driving home.
• 4:24
  She hasn't had as much to drink of everybody else, but he was worried, so he actually called her several times, and the first time she answered, and she lets him know,"We're actually still walking to the car." But all subsequent calls all go to voicemail.
• 4:37
  But Steven wasn't overly concerned, because he knew that her phone had been dying.
• 4:42
  However, the next morning, Christina, who is usually very reliable and punctual, does not show up for work.
• 4:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 4:49
  Coworkers try calling her, and they get no reply Her parents and her boyfriend cannot locate her, so they speak to the people at the party and find out that she left with this guy, Enrique, who had offered to walk her to her car.
• 5:04
  They call him, and he says,"Once we got to the end of the street, we went our separate ways, because she parked in this garage and I parked in that garage." But that doesn't sit right with Christina's mom,'cause Christina was afraid of the dark, and she would have never walked into a parking garage lot alone at that time of night.
• 5:23
  Uh, me neither.
• 5:25
  Right.
• 5:26
  I've seen Scream.
• 5:27
  Christina's dad questions her boyfriend, Hunter, and Hunter says,"I just assumed she stayed the night at Paulina's." Well, you'd know if you picked up the damn phone.
• 5:35
  Right.
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  So on Tuesday, September the 2nd, her parents file a missing persons report, and the local police find her car still in the parking lot.
• 5:46
  Oh, no.
• 5:47
  There's nothing suspicious about the car, so they released it to Christina's dad and assumed that she never made it to her car.
• 5:57
  They call around hospitals.
• 5:58
  They get no helpful information.
• 6:00
  They search the garage for blood, but nothing is found.
• 6:04
  They pull the CCTV footage and see that both Enrique and Christina walking not only to but into the same parking garage together.
• 6:14
  Mm.
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  Caught in lie number one.
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  Enrique's vehicle can then be seen exiting the parking garage, but obviously not Christina's,'cause it was still there.
• 6:25
  Right.
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  However, in the CCTV footage, they can't tell if there's one or two people in the car because he has all the windows darkened.
• 6:31
  Right.
• 6:32
  Security camera footage also picks up Enrique getting gas at a local gas station just a few hours later.
• 6:39
  Not so unusual, until you can see him cleaning the passenger door, the trunk area of the car, with one of those gas station squeegees that's meant for the windshield, and he's scrubbing his trunk with it.
• 6:51
  This is looking very suspicious.
• 6:53
  Yeah, I think.
• 6:56
  Enrique also clocks in three hours late for work on Saturday.
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  He's the manager of a T-Mobile store.
• 7:02
  All right, Enrique.
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  This is not looking good.
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  This is not look good for you, Enrique.
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  So police call him in for an interview He tells them that they were parked in different parking garages and separated on the sidewalk.
• 7:16
  He said both he and Christina were on the phone at the time, so he wasn't paying much attention to what she was doing.
• 7:21
  However, his phone records showed that he didn't make any phone calls at that time.
• 7:25
  Mm-mm.
• 7:27
  He also mentions that whomever Christina was talking to, they appeared to be having an argument.
• 7:32
  Which could be true,'cause she'd been arguing with Hunter, but apparently Hunter never picked up any of her calls.
• 7:37
  I think he was trying to throw in a possible- A red herring.
• 7:40
  Yeah.
• 7:41
  Yeah.
• 7:42
  So while being interviewed, police notice bruises and scrapes on his hands and arms, and also show him the CCTV that shows him walking into the parking garage with Christina.
• 7:54
  And he changes his story to say that he had to walk through her parking garage to get to the one that his car was in.
• 8:01
  Hmm.
• 8:02
  Hmm.
• 8:04
  So the interviewing investigator asks,"Can I see your car?" She doesn't have a warrant or anything, she's just curious, and he's like,"Sure, no problem." And she takes pictures of a dent that's in the side of his car, and notices that the interior, especially the passenger side, has been recently, thoroughly cleaned.
• 8:22
  Hmm.
• 8:23
  Next, they show him the footage of his car exiting the garage that Christina's car was parked in, and he says,"Oh, yes, I may have moved it there.
• 8:33
  I was too intoxicated to remember where I parked." Wow.
• 8:37
  Why are you driving, dickhead?
• 8:39
  Right.
• 8:41
  So they ask him if Christina had ever been in his car, and he says,"Absolutely not.
• 8:47
  Never." Mm-hmm.
• 8:49
  Believable.
• 8:50
  Mm.
• 8:51
  He explains the bruises on his hands and the dent to his car by saying he got a flat tire, and the tire iron fell on him, causing the bruises, and it made him so angry that he punched the side of his car, causing the bruises and scrapes on his knuckles and the dent in the front of the car.
• 9:10
  I'm mad at my car for being busted, so I'm gonna bust it up some more.
• 9:15
  Right.
• 9:17
  The men in this story are not that bright.
• 9:19
  No, they're not.
• 9:20
  They're not real bright.
• 9:21
  Police bring in experts who can tell if the dent on the car is caused by a fist.
• 9:27
  But they also question his coworkers, and he had told them that the bruises on his hands were from a bar fight.
• 9:34
  Hmm.
• 9:34
  Actually, when I was writing this, I was like,"This should be on that show The World's Dumbest Criminals." No, literally.
• 9:40
  Yeah.
• 9:41
  Police also notice an apparent bite mark on the inside of his forearm, so apparently he's got bites as well., On the inside of his, so like here.
• 9:52
  So like that signals to me maybe he had it over somebody's mouth Yep.
• 9:56
  If you grab somebody from behind, that would be right where it was.
• 10:00
  So another lie he is caught in is him telling police officers that he heads home after exiting the parking lot, but toll booths and cellphone pings show otherwise.
• 10:11
  We're all dumb as Really.
• 10:14
  Incidentally, Christina's phone pings off the same two towers as him at the same time.
• 10:21
  Enrique's cooked.
• 10:23
  He's done.
• 10:24
  After the second ping, Christina's phone stops pinging off of any towers as it appears to either be turned off or out of power.
• 10:34
  In his third police interrogation, he claims to have taken Adderall, smoked weed before the party, taking 10 shots of rum at the apartment before going out, and then drinking at least three more beers in the bar, backing up his story of being too intoxicated to remember details.
• 10:57
  How about too intoxicated to walk?
• 10:59
  Right.
• 11:00
  10 shots of rum, you smoke weed, you take Adderall, and then you have three beers?
• 11:06
  Yeah.
• 11:07
  Yeah, how are you upright?
• 11:07
  You're dead.
• 11:08
  Yeah.
• 11:09
  Yeah.
• 11:09
  At this time, police think he may have kidnapped Christina.
• 11:14
  That, yeah, I agree, police.
• 11:16
  And he's holding her somewhere.
• 11:19
  So while he's being interviewed, they attempt to put a tracker on his vehicle, and notice while they're under there that the entire underneath of his vehicle is more spotless than a brand-new car.
• 11:31
  Hmm.
• 11:32
  He thinks he's smart.
• 11:33
  Wow.
• 11:34
  Yeah.
• 11:35
  So they get his permission to do a full search of the car, and they tow it to a crime scene investigation garage.
• 11:43
  The car is diligently swiped for DNA and sent for testing, and while they're doing that, they install the GPS.
• 11:51
  Hmm, smart.
• 11:52
  Smart.
• 11:53
  Police also interview Christina's boyfriend, Hunter, as it is well-known that he and Christina had a fight that day, and she may have been arguing with him on the phone when she was walking back to her car.
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  But Hunter is very uncooperative.
• 12:06
  He's too busy being a model.
• 12:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 12:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 12:09
  So they ask for his phone, and he refuses.
• 12:13
  He says,"Wait a minute, I got to delete something first." No, he did not say that out loud to the police.
• 12:19
  And he deleted some messages.
• 12:21
  Because they didn't have a search warrant, he sat in front of them and deleted some messages before finally handing over his phone.
• 12:29
  Wow.
• 12:31
  Wow well, dumbest criminals.
• 12:33
  Yeah.
• 12:35
  At first, this makes police suspicious.
• 12:38
  Really?
• 12:39
  Yes.
• 12:40
  Boy, these cops are really smart too, aren't they?
• 12:42
  Uh, they are.
• 12:44
  But it turns out that he has a rock solid alibi.
• 12:47
  You're gonna love this next part.
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  Lay it on me.
• 12:50
  All right.
• 12:50
  He has a rock solid alibi when it turns out that at the time of Christina's disappearance, he was selling drugs to an undercover cop in Fort Worth.
• 13:02
  No, he wasn't.
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  He was.
• 13:03
  No, he- please.
• 13:05
  No, he wasn't.
• 13:07
  He was.
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  So the reason he was unwilling to give his phone to the police until he had deleted some messages was all down to his drug dealing shenanigans.
• 13:17
  I can't.
• 13:18
  These people, I can't.
• 13:20
  So I guess he didn't realize yet that he sold them to an undercover cop,'cause he was still trying to cover his back by deleting his messages that were setting up this drug trade What the fuck?
• 13:35
  They probably said to him,"What's your name?" And he went,"Wait a minute." However, despite his participation in unsavory antics that night, kidnapping Christina was not one of them.
• 13:44
  I at first thought that his text messages were to somebody that he'd set up to kidnap her, maybe Enrique, whatever.
• 13:52
  But when I heard he wouldn't give over his phone, I was like,"Ooh, he didn't do this, but maybe he's behind it." Right.
• 13:57
  No, this dumbass was selling drugs to an undercover cop This is all too much.
• 14:03
  Can you take this right now?
• 14:05
  No.
• 14:05
  No.
• 14:05
  I told you it'd be a good little extra episode.
• 14:08
  So police interview another girl from the party who tells them that Enrique was coming onto her all night and was not happy when she turned down his advances.
• 14:19
  Incidentally, Enrique has a girlfriend- I'm shocked who was not there.
• 14:23
  I thought he was a stand-up guy.
• 14:24
  Right.
• 14:26
  The girl's name was Sabrina, and she was also too drunk to drive home, and she asked Paulina if she could sleep on the sofa, and Paulina says yes.
• 14:36
  But Enrique would not get up off the sofa to let her lay down, and tells her,"If you wanna lay on this sofa, you have to lay with me." Crazy.
• 14:46
  So she goes to the bedroom instead alone.
• 14:48
  Good.
• 14:49
  Yeah.
• 14:49
  She's like,"No, thank you, Enrique." So another partygoer also claims to have seen Enrique's car parked in the garage the same time as Christina's car, and there was no dent in it.
• 15:02
  Hmm.
• 15:04
  Thinking that she has been kidnapped, they deploy helicopters to follow the GPS on his car.
• 15:11
  Hmm.
• 15:12
  By September 8th, search organizations are called in to search local areas, and police start to collect and go through Enrique's trash.
• 15:20
  Again, when they take it out to the road, it's then publicly available for anyone to go through, I guess.
• 15:26
  If you ever want to go through anybody's trash, just wait for them to put it on the road.
• 15:29
  I just wanna say that I feel bad for the police or whoever that actually has to go through the trash.
• 15:35
  I know.
• 15:36
  Because what a disgusting job.
• 15:38
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:40
  Gross.
• 15:41
  I've thought that many times, but if it helps you keep killers off the street, then go through the trash.
• 15:47
  Yeah, I mean, obviously the juice is worth the squeeze at that point.
• 15:50
  Yeah.
• 15:50
  But it just- Oh, did you have to say juice with the trash?
• 15:53
  Yeah.
• 15:53
  Gross.
• 15:54
  I didn't realize.
• 15:55
  Squeezing juices out of the trash.
• 15:57
  Ew.
• 15:58
  Ew.
• 15:58
  Anyway.
• 15:59
  So police start to collect and go through Enrique's trash, where they find empty bleach bottles, towels, and odor remover.
• 16:12
  I can't.
• 16:13
  We should just call this episode World's Dumbest Criminal.
• 16:15
  World's Dumbest Criminal.
• 16:17
  I can't.
• 16:20
  So they now have enough to seize his vehicle with a search warrant, and they are able to find traces of three different types of grass on it, one of which is not found in too many areas.
• 16:29
  So you scrubbed that underneath like a new car, but you missed some grass?
• 16:33
  Right.
• 16:34
  Not as, not as, uh, bright as you think you are.
• 16:37
  The DNA on the floor mat and the trunk also come back as a match for Christina.
• 16:43
  Enrique is arrested and charged with aggravated kidnapping.
• 16:47
  His bail is set at$1 million, and it is made public that he has been arrested in connection with her disappearance.
• 16:54
  Incidentally, this case set a precedent for the charge of aggravated kidnapping being used to charge suspected murderers in cases where a body had not been yet located, but all signs point to the victim being deceased, and all evidence pointing to one particular suspect, not only in the hopes of getting an actual conviction, but also so as not to negate the ability to try a person for murder at a later date, which we've heard of before in other- Right but this was, like, the first time in this area that they'd done that for that reason.
• 17:24
  Incidentally, and you're gonna be shocked again, it turns out he's also in the middle of a case of sexual assault for having a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old when he was 21.
• 17:37
  What?
• 17:39
  What, what do you even say?
• 17:41
  You could knock me over with a feather.
• 17:43
  Right.
• 17:44
  So as the trial goes on, the jury are also allowed to see the inside of his car in person, which apparently was quite unusual.
• 17:50
  The trial takes two weeks to conclude, and the jury come back with a verdict of guilty of aggravated kidnapping.
• 17:58
  Though Enrique shows no emotion, and he's sentenced to life in prison.
• 18:02
  But we still don't have a body or anything?
• 18:05
  Oh, just wait.
• 18:06
  Okay.
• 18:08
  Christina's mom, Johnny, is not giving up hope of finding her daughter.
• 18:12
  She ends up losing her job, and so dedicates all her time to the search.
• 18:18
  Mm.
• 18:18
  Like, she just, she can't be wrong.
• 18:20
  She has to have answers.
• 18:22
  Three years after Christina's disappearance, her body is found when a construction company starts to remove brush for a building project.
• 18:30
  And although Enrique would never give up her location, the family finally gets closure when DNA proves the skeletal remains to be Christina.
• 18:39
  Mm.
• 18:40
  Now, he was never actually charged with murder, as his conviction and sentence would not have been affected, and the body was too decomposed to determine a cause of death.
• 18:50
  The discovery of the body did, however, put a stop to Enrique's petition for a retrial.
• 18:56
  Good.
• 18:57
  He remains incarcerated at a maximum security prison in Abilene, Texas, and will be eligible for parole in 2044.
• 19:06
  Parole?
• 19:07
  No.
• 19:07
  No parole for him.
• 19:09
  Fuck.
• 19:09
  I doubt very much that somebody that stupid is gonna pass a parole board.
• 19:16
  Yeah.
• 19:16
  But 2044 seems way too soon.
• 19:19
  That's less than 20 years from where we are now.
• 19:21
  Yeah.
• 19:22
  And- He murdered this girl He's sexually assaulting a 16-year-old Yeah.
• 19:28
  Creepily trying to pick up another girl or make her lie on the sofa with him.
• 19:33
  Really thought that it was gonna be Hunter.
• 19:36
  I thought it was gonna be Hunter, who was up to no good, but not killing his girlfriend.
• 19:41
  Just in a different way.
• 19:41
  In a different way..
• 19:43
  Well, rest in peace to her.
• 19:45
  To Christina.
• 19:46
  I really- Hate that.
• 19:49
  She deserves so much better I mean, literally you're at a party with friends, and apparently Paulina didn't know this person that well.
• 19:57
  Everybody at the party had gone to Allen High School, and it was some kind of like high school reunion thing.
• 20:01
  Nobody knew Enrique really well.
• 20:04
  He was more of a friend of a friend, an acquaintance.
• 20:07
  But n- he wasn't a complete stranger to anybody.
• 20:10
  Right.
• 20:10
  And when you're at a friend's house, and they've got friends over, and one of those friends is like,"Hey, I'll walk you to your car," it does seem like a better option than going alone- Right at 2:00 AM- Yeah when your phone's dying, obviously.
• 20:24
  Ugh, I hate that.
• 20:26
  I hate that.
• 20:27
  So the, forensics said the dent could not have been caused by a fist.
• 20:32
  Right.
• 20:32
  And that it could have been caused by another part of the human body.
• 20:37
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  Most likely somebody's rear.
• 20:40
  Mm.
• 20:40
  Like, if they were pushed up against the car.
• 20:42
  It would have to be a larger body part than a fist, they said.
• 20:45
  But there was definitely enough impact that indicated that it was the weight of a body.
• 20:51
  Mm.
• 20:51
  Just, just not a fist.
• 20:52
  So they do think that he may have asked her to get into the car and go home with him or whatever, I mean, all speculation obviously, and that when she wouldn't, he pushed her up against the car, grabbed her by the neck where he got the bite and forced her into the car.
• 21:06
  Which was why there was no blood in the garage.
• 21:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 21:09
  And she couldn't be seen in the passenger seat because of the tinted windows I mean, they do say that they'll never know if she got into the car willingly or not, but I just don't believe that she would have.
• 21:23
  I don't either no, I mean, they're saying she could have willingly got in the car if he said,"Hey, let's go grab something, and I'll bring you back to your car in a minute." Or whatever.
• 21:31
  Mm.
• 21:32
  There's two different theories.
• 21:32
  She either got into the car willingly, and he killed her somewhere else, or he kidnapped her in the parking lot.
• 21:39
  But based on the fact that she didn't wanna stay, and that she had a boyfriend, and that she intended to drive home, and she had work the next day.
• 21:48
  She didn't know him that well.
• 21:48
  And the dent in the car.
• 21:50
  Yeah.
• 21:50
  All the other stuff tells me that- He forced her into that car he forced her into the car in the parking garage, drove her off somewhere where he killed her, put her in the trunk.
• 22:00
  And he must have done it instantly,'cause he was cleaning the trunk within hours.
• 22:03
  Right.
• 22:04
  And he was three hours late to work.
• 22:05
  So- Right it all happened in that space of time.
• 22:08
  There's speculation that he probably didn't intend to murder her.
• 22:13
  Right.
• 22:14
  He was just one of those people that thought he was irresistible and came on to everybody, and he'd already been rejected once by Sabrina.
• 22:20
  Yeah.
• 22:20
  Sabrina said in court,"I do feel like he left the party pissed off because I turned him down." Mm-hmm.
• 22:27
  So he had this, like, hatred built up against women when he left.
• 22:30
  But basically what the speculation is that he was turned down by Sabrina, so he walks Christina home.
• 22:36
  He comes on to Christina.
• 22:38
  She's like,"No.
• 22:39
  No thank you.
• 22:39
  I've got a boyfriend.
• 22:40
  You're gross." And that he just can't handle being turned down for a second time and forced himself upon her, and that whether or not he intended to actually end her life or not.
• 22:55
  I just...
• 22:56
  And this is something that I think about a lot in the case of men who sexually assault and rape women and then kill them.
• 23:06
  Like- Sexual gratification is really that important to you that you're willing to murder?
• 23:09
  Like,'cause you're done.
• 23:09
  You're cooked.
• 23:09
  You're going to jail for the rest of your life.
• 23:17
  Your life is over.
• 23:19
  And unfortunately, the skeletal remains, they'll never know if she was sexually abused or not, so they won't know.
• 23:25
  But we can reasonably assume.
• 23:26
  We could reasonably assume.
• 23:27
  If he wasn't forcing sex with the 16-year-old, it was apparently consensual, but still illegal- Yeah'cause she's underage.
• 23:34
  It was unfortunate that the body took so long to be found,'cause even way after police had given up, her family got together groups of people every single weekend- Mm to go search for that body for three years.
• 23:48
  And it was only because where it left had such dense brush that once somebody wanted to build something there and the brush had to be removed, that it was ever found.
• 23:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:56
  But had she been found earlier, they would've had a lot more answers.
• 23:59
  Yeah.
• 24:01
  I think that happens a lot i'm researching a case right now, the case of Asha Degree.
• 24:08
  Do you know that one?
• 24:09
  Doesn't ring a bell.
• 24:10
  She was a little girl, eight or nine years old, who disappeared from North Carolina in 2000 or so.
• 24:19
  And, uh, it's still unsolved to this day, but her body wasn't found for, like, a decade.
• 24:27
  Wow.
• 24:27
  She just disappeared one night out of her bed in a thunderstorm, and people recorded seeing her walking down the highway in a thunderstorm in the pitch black with a backpack on.
• 24:40
  And they didn't stop.
• 24:41
  I know.
• 24:42
  It's, it's a whole thing.
• 24:43
  I'm doing an episode on it.
• 24:44
  I'll tell you all about it then.
• 24:46
  But her remains were not discovered until something like a decade later, and it was because, the property that it was buried at was being, uh, ready for, like, construction or something.
• 24:59
  So I feel like that does happen a lot, you know.
• 25:01
  They will bury these bodies or this other, other evidence in areas that are kind of rural or not well-traveled.
• 25:08
  But then stay that way.
• 25:09
  But then when it- Yeah yeah, when it gets developed, like, it gets unearthed.
• 25:13
  So that's our Labor Day episode.
• 25:17
  Happy Labor Day.
• 25:18
  Happy Labor Day.
• 25:19
  No, I mean, we've made a little light of it.
• 25:22
  It's a bonus episode.
• 25:23
  We're hoping you're all enjoying your Labor Day weekend.
• 25:26
  Um, we're laughing at Enrique because he's the stupidest motherfucker to walk the Earth.
• 25:31
  An absolute moron.
• 25:33
  And rest in peace, Kristina.
• 25:35
  You did not deserve any of that.
• 25:37
  Mm-mm.
• 25:38
  No, I'm so sorry to her family.
• 25:40
  Uh, her mother, like, three years they spent looking for her.
• 25:47
  And of course he couldn't just come out and say,"I did it, and this is where I buried the body." He already got life.
• 25:54
  Like- Right.
• 25:55
  But he was pursuing a retrial and everything.
• 25:57
  He denied it.
• 25:58
  Yeah.
• 25:58
  And he was pursuing that retrial.
• 26:01
  He was probably hoping for as long as they couldn't find a body, that he could get away with it to some extent.
• 26:08
  And, and even if he had gotten away with it and gotten off and gotten out of prison, he probably just would've went and picked a new victim and still been a dumbass and gotten caught again.
• 26:19
  If he'd have got the retrial and got out of, um, prison for kidnapping, they would've found the body and he would've gone back- Mm-hmm for murder.
• 26:24
  Yeah.
• 26:25
  But I think that the reason he never gave up the location of the body is because in his mind, in his dumbass, stupid mind, he was gonna get out of prison and go on his merry way.
• 26:36
  Yeah.
• 26:38
  What an absolute moron.
• 26:39
  I mean, I feel kind of bad for immediately accusing Hunter.
• 26:44
  I mean, I- Sorry about that, Hunter no, I did, I did too.
• 26:47
  The fact that they had a volatile relationship is always a red flag.
• 26:50
  Mm.
• 26:50
  And the fact that he's not answering her calls.
• 26:52
  They had a fight earlier that day, and then when they said that his alibi checked out, I was like,"Oh, it wasn't Hunter." But then when he wouldn't let the police look at his phone, I was like,"Maybe he knew Enrique.
• 27:03
  Maybe he was having Enrique do it." No, he was just as dumb as Enrique.
• 27:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:09
  But yeah, that's our little bonus episode.
• 27:11
  While you're listening to this, I'm currently at Dragon Con, so look out for those pictures.
• 27:15
  Yay for Dragon Con.
• 27:17
  I tried to find a Dragon Con murder, and I cannot believe, and I don't know why I say this like that, because I see emergency services at Dragon Con every year.
• 27:26
  Right.
• 27:26
  65,000 people travel to Atlanta and take over the streets of Atlanta for- Right five days straight, and I often see people passed out drunk Right being taken off by cops, um, all, all the time.
• 27:42
  But I was like, it's the 40th anniversary this year.
• 27:47
  Right.
• 27:47
  So in 40 years, 65,000 people all in one place, you would have thought sooner or later something would have happened, and yet I cannot find a single murder at Dragon Con, which actually makes me feel kind of good.
• 27:59
  No, that's actually good, and it, it kind of seems like whoever orchestrates Dragon Con must care and must put a lot of safety protocols in place.
• 28:10
  It, it's incredibly well organized.
• 28:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:12
  But it's also a community that looks out for each other.
• 28:15
  Right.
• 28:16
  And I have to say that, like, I always carry around bottles of water, and if we find people that appear to be incapable of getting back to their hotel room or whatever, we're always stopping to help and give water.
• 28:27
  But everybody does.
• 28:28
  It's a nerdy community, but they look out for each other.
• 28:31
  There are people walking around with signs that say, you know,"Do you need a snack?
• 28:35
  Do you need refreshments?" Dragon Con actually, and, and not everybody seems to know this.
• 28:40
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:40
  It takes place over five hotels, and one of the hotels has a free refreshment room.
• 28:46
  Wow.
• 28:46
  It's not like a buffet.
• 28:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:49
  But you can get Gatorade, water, snacks, and it is to literally make sure that everybody's hydrated.
• 28:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 28:58
  Not gonna pass out because they couldn't afford the food, because they spent all the money at the- Artist Alley or whatever Right Um, it's a very, very good community.
• 29:06
  It's just having that many people- Mm-hmm in one place at once, drinking a lot of alcohol, I'm just surprised- Yeah, odds are somebody hasn't been pushed over a balcony or...
• 29:19
  The worst I could find, I'm on a- Working on one right now.
• 29:20
  Yes.
• 29:20
  Um, I'm on a lot of Dragon Con Facebook groups, and so the Courtland, that used to be the Sheraton, is one of the host hotels, and they had a flood.
• 29:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:29
  Oh, no.
• 29:29
  And it's taken out half of their rooms.
• 29:31
  And these people that have their room on legacy, it's called, where it's booked year after year after year.
• 29:37
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:38
  Um, to,'cause to stay at a host hotel is, like, the thing to do.
• 29:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:43
  And half their rooms have been wiped out with this flood, and they had to contact people and be like,"We know you've stayed with us for the last 20 years straight, and you have a legacy, but, uh, we don't have enough rooms." Wow.
• 29:53
  And so people were saying,"Hey, I'm thinking about sleeping in my car." Oh, Jesus.
• 29:59
  And everybody's like,"Do not do that in downtown Atlanta." Please don't.
• 30:03
  Absolutely do not.
• 30:04
  A lot of people worried about hygiene, and he's like,"No, I can shower at my friend's room.
• 30:08
  I can shower at a gym," and whatever.
• 30:10
  But they're like,"It is not safe." No, it's not safe So it's downtown Atlanta.
• 30:16
  It's not safe to ca- sleep in your car, but nobody's ever been murdered there.
• 30:21
  Right.
• 30:21
  People get married there.
• 30:22
  Well, I hope that nobody is murdered.
• 30:24
  I hope that we continue with this trend.
• 30:27
  And you're really talking Dragon Con up.
• 30:31
  I've never been, but I, I already know it'll be so far out of my comfort zone.
• 30:35
  It's a lot of people.
• 30:36
  I can't be packed in anywhere like a sardine.
• 30:38
  I just can't do it.
• 30:40
  Well, it's a lot of people.
• 30:41
  There's also, a big blood drive.
• 30:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:43
  Um, lots of people give blood there.
• 30:45
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:46
  There's also IV stations.
• 30:49
  So- There's a blood shortage in the United States.
• 30:51
  Did you know that?
• 30:51
  You realize that?
• 30:52
  Yeah.
• 30:54
  A blood shortage.
• 30:55
  Oh.
• 30:55
  I need to go and give blood.
• 30:57
  They won't take mine.
• 30:57
  Too many tattoos.
• 30:59
  Really?
• 31:00
  They won't take my plasma because I lived in Britain in the'80s, therefore I may- The mad cow have mad- Sorry for that I may be a mad cow after all.
• 31:10
  That's ridiculous.
• 31:11
  Um, and they won't take my blood because you have to go at least a year since your last tattoo because of blood contamination possibilities.
• 31:16
  Wow.
• 31:16
  And I never go a year between tattoos.
• 31:19
  Well- It's not a thing for me their loss.
• 31:22
  I know.
• 31:23
  I probably have pretty blood.
• 31:24
  Yeah.
• 31:25
  Um, and yeah, and they have IV stations, which you have to pay for.
• 31:28
  But if you need to get, like, hydrated or a hangover cure or whatever, you can go get you an IV.
• 31:33
  It sounds like a really nice organization and a really nice event.
• 31:39
  Yeah.
• 31:40
  You're talking it up, making me wanna go, but I- I love it.
• 31:43
  It's what I look forward to every year.
• 31:45
  I love it.
• 31:45
  I love it.
• 31:46
  I love it.
• 31:46
  If you guys are at Dragon Con, by the way, Sarah's gonna be at Dragon Con.
• 31:50
  I will be, yeah.
• 31:51
  If anybody's gonna be at Dragon Con, um, look out for me.
• 31:55
  I will have, um, lanyard ribbons that say Deadly Divas.
• 31:59
  I have hundreds to give out.
• 32:01
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:01
  I will be working at the Pegasus booth at the vendor hall We're usually on the s- uh, first floor.
• 32:12
  I think Sarah loves to talk to people, so come by and talk to her.
• 32:15
  Yeah, you can't shut me up.
• 32:19
  She already said today how loud I am.
• 32:21
  I'm loud and nonstop.
• 32:22
  I do not like to talk to people, so Sarah makes up for me, and I appreciate that.
• 32:28
  You're welcome.
• 32:29
  One day we'll be at- One day we- we'll be at crime conventions and podcast conventions.
• 32:33
  We'll be at CrimeCon with our own booth one day.
• 32:37
  One day.
• 32:38
  One day.
• 32:39
  But yeah, if, um, if you're gonna be at Dragon Con, let me know on our Facebook page.
• 32:45
  Maybe we can have a little Deadly Divas meetup.
• 32:48
  Yeah.
• 32:49
  That'd be cool, cool.
• 32:51
  I'll be there in spirit, or maybe you can just FaceTime me.
• 32:54
  I'll Face- Yes.
• 32:54
  If, if I meet any Deadly Divas fans, I'm FaceTiming you for sure.
• 32:57
  Yes.
• 32:58
  I'm gonna take my Deadly Divas, um, little bomber jacket thing- Yes to give out ribbons,'cause that'll be cool.
• 33:02
  Everything.
• 33:03
  Take all the merch.
• 33:04
  It'll be our first, like, unofficial- Yeah convention.
• 33:06
  Um, so we will see you on Friday with, um, w- I'm so lost because this is a bonus episode that it could be anything.
• 33:14
  Let's see if it's on my notes here.
• 33:17
  Upcoming episodes.
• 33:19
  We'll see you Friday Rainbow Unicorn Adventures.
• 33:22
  Oh, it'll be you.
• 33:24
  It'll be September 11th, and it'll be you.
• 33:26
  I don't have anything for September 11th.
• 33:28
  Uh-oh, better get something.
• 33:30
  Well.
• 33:31
  Oh, it'll be something we record your birthday trip.
• 33:33
  Yeah.
• 33:34
  Could be Asian degree.
• 33:36
  Um, I don't know.
• 33:38
  We'll see.
• 33:39
  We'll find something cool to tell you all about.
• 33:42
  And last Friday's episode was Heather Elvis, and that came out just three days ago if you're listening to this on Labor Day.
• 33:50
  And by the way, we haven't recorded that yet.
• 33:52
  While, while we're recording this, but it'll get done.
• 33:58
  We've been recording all day.
• 33:59
  We're in delirious mode.
• 34:01
  I am absolutely in delirium.
• 34:02
  I need cheesecake, and I need to go home and sit on my couch and watch Big Brother.
• 34:06
  All right.
• 34:07
  Oh, yeah, Big Brother.
• 34:08
  Uh, oh, shit, we need to go so we can set Big Brother.
• 34:11
  Um, but cheesecake will solve everything.
• 34:13
  You're correct.
• 34:14
  All right, guys.
• 34:15
  Until next time, be needless.
• 34:17
  Not deadly.
• 34:18
  Bye.