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1986's Crocodile Dundee · Off The Shelf With Phil and Dave- A Movie Review Podcast

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Hello and welcome to Off the Shelf with Phil and Dave, the
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Movie Talk Shower. Each week, one of us takes a
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movie off our shelf, presents it to the other, and discusses it
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at length. This week we've got coming off
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of Dave Shelf 1986's Crocodile Dundee, starring and written by
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Paul Hogan. Ohhh, yeah.
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Directed by Peter Faiman, also starring Linda Kozlowski, a slew
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of others. Yes.
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Too many to count, really, But the real two hander we got on
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our hands here. Oh, yeah, buddy.
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David, welcome back to the couch.
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Thank you. Why this movie?
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Why now? And maybe what your history is
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with this? Movie you don't know if I have.
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Any I don't. It's not a classic is.
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It that's the questionable, we will explain that by the end of
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the. Episode Well, you can see what
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I've been trying to do because you couldn't go to Australia,
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I'm bringing Australia. To you and it's appreciated.
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I'm glad, and this is the final one.
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This concludes that, just so you know.
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Oh, we're closing the page. Closing the loop, if you will,
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on Australia. OK, Mad Max, obviously, and here
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we are with Crocodile Dundee. Because if you're going to pick
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an Australian movie. None more Australian than this.
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I would. I found a Mark Wahlberg one
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really. I think it might have been
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directed by Peter Jackson is sort of, he's in New Zealand.
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Yeah, I did go there too. So it would have qualified.
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So I almost brought that off. He directed him in The Lovely
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Bones. That's it.
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It's one of the worst movies. Ever seen in my life, Some
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people liked it. And I'm thinking this, see Mark
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Wahlberg in that world. But I said no, let's be kind to
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Phil. So I thought we'd bring the
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charm of Paul Hogan. Yeah.
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And Co. And I mean, I haven't seen this
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movie. And did you watch it in
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preparation for an Australian? Trip I haven't seen this movie
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in 40 years. I would.
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Say 40 years. Yeah.
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Ish. Yeah, let me throw in Ish to be
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safe. There.
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Well, it's January 2026. The movie came out in 86.
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Yeah. So 40 years Max.
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Thanks. I don't know if I saw it in the
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theatre, yeah, but I imagine it was a rental in my household.
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Relatively family friendly. Also another movie that would
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have been just on cable. This was yeah, yeah, on that TV
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WGN thing. Yeah, for sure.
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I don't think I saw the sequels. I saw 2.
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OK, well hold your horses there, buddy.
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Your history, not mine. That's it for me.
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But yeah, this throw to you, what is your history with the
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series, I guess. This is a movie that I remember
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loving in 1980. Six.
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Yeah, I can see that. Even whenever it came out, I
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have not seen it in probably the same length of time.
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What I remember most about it, I suppose, is less the movie
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because there's like the beats and we'll talk about a couple of
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things that I think have transcended the movie.
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They were obviously heavy rotation on the trailers and
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commentary so forth that have lingered beyond the lifespan of
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the movie. But what I remember are things
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like the cultural phenomenon that this movie was OK for a
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period of time. Australia just felt like and he
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in particular felt like everywhere.
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I remember seeing more and more ads for Fosters interest.
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They don't know is Australian phobia.
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Yes. I do remember that you mentioned
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it. Yeah, and that was a thing, OK,
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Paul Hogan hosted the. Oscars, that's your world.
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That's my world. But when he gets that, holy
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shit, this guy is big. This guy was nobody in 1985.
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Sure. Yeah.
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At least, you know, in the general public.
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Yeah. And now he's hosting the Oscars
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with an Academy Award nomination for this screenplay.
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Really I'm. Surprised.
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Put a pin in that. OK, continue.
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But that is the world we're living in.
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I love pins and as you know, I was a big wrestling fan growing
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up. It's been documented.
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As a result, Outback Jack was introduced as a wrestler in the
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WWF. He goes out of the game by then.
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His whole thing was he's Australian, he's from the
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Outback, there's all these that's running around.
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Does he have like a stuffed alligator with him or crocodile?
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It should say. I'll play you a clip and maybe
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I'll put it on the Facebook. It is something to behold.
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He even had an LG N proper 8 inch figure that I bought.
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Like he was a big enough thing that they were going to cash in
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on this. Australian Fever and the sequel
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came out just two years later. So they were clearly seeing
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lightning in a bottle. And to give you a little
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indication, the next one in Los Angeles.
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Yeah. Came out in 2001.
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So from 88 to 2001, silence on the Crocodile Dundee.
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And then trying to tap into some nostalgia.
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Right. And it's going to sell tickets,
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reserve the requel, as they like to call it.
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Yeah. So.
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And imagine it was garbage. Never saw it.
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Couldn't tell you. But I did work at the video
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store, and we had some copies, and it was a thing.
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So in watching this again, I remembered very little other
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than a couple of the things. There was no real history kind
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of built in. But I do remember the culture
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around it was a big, big deal. Interesting.
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Yeah, I was happy to. I was interested in watching it
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again because it had been so. Long not excited though.
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I was not that excited. What I was excited about was
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this discussion. OK, because I wanted to know
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just at first glance, because you hadn't, as you said, watched
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it prior to your trip. Hmm.
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When you returned or watching it even for this podcast?
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Sure. Yeah.
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I wonder how things have changed or.
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Not. In those subsequent years, did
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you find, yeah, maybe not the scenery specifically, but like,
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was the vibe something you were experienced down there?
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Definitely not, no. But I think the difference is,
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and these were sort of my preconceptions of Australia
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thinking snakes. I'm thinking crocodiles now.
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I don't think it's because I watched this movie when I was 9
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or 10. I don't think I would have
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carried that over as what I think Australia is.
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I think there's a lot of things since Steve Irwin.
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Oh, there you. Go, who must have watched this
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movie when he was really young and was strongly influenced by
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this character and he found this love for animals.
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I imagine there's some connective tissue for him there,
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but having been to Australia now, if you're in the city, you
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don't see any of. This you didn't go walk about.
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Did not go walkabout. OK, all right.
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Some of the scenery, Sure. I think I mentioned this.
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I saw an iguana, but didn't see any snakes.
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Obviously didn't see any crocodiles.
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Koala. I did see a couple Kangaroos.
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OK, yeah, maybe a koala in the zoo.
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For sure it's a tiger. Lion.
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Lots of good stuff there, buddy. Sure, but it wasn't exactly what
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I had imagined. I imagine in the outskirts, you
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know, yeah. Oh, it's, I mean, it's a
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relatively big country, enough so that everybody went to see
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Mad Max and made it the most popular movie ever.
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And I imagine how this movie did in the box office.
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I don't have the numbers and I'm not going to look him.
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Up. No, I'm not either.
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I think we just know that everyone knows about this movie.
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Yeah, I think it was a big hit. Obviously Oscar nominated, so
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not that, not that that means a ton of things, but clearly
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enough people thought it was of some value that it made enough
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money just warrant a sequel to make Paul Hogan effectively a
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movie star. Yeah, he continued to work
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throughout. Still going strong as of 2012 I
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think. Yeah, well, that was 13 years
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ago, but you've done something. Since I didn't dive deep into
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his. You know in that time frame he
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did almost an Angel in 1990. Or so I know nothing else of
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what he did. This is it for me.
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Yeah, this is it for me too. But he's had bits and pieces who
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didn't, or at least shouldn't have, is Linda Kozlowski.
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Oh, you didn't like her? Oh my gosh, as a character,
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we're going to talk a little bit about her throughout course.
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She's in the movie, but she is Olga levels.
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Wow, disengagement. Really.
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Yeah, we're going to talk about her character, but and, and how
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I feel about the character, sure.
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But fundamentally, as an actor, this girl is terrible to me.
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OK, so that was a real barrier for entry.
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I'm gonna come out right flat. Out.
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I appreciate the honesty buddy. It was a challenge to stay
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connected to the film with her as the Co lead.
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Good to know I didn't have issues to that level.
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Just dropping. We're going to, we're going to
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talk about it, OK? Just don't drop it.
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Drop a little knowledge up at the top here.
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Well, I'm going to drop something for you, her voice.
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Oh, OK. She sounded like somebody I've
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heard recently. And for the first watch, I
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couldn't figure it out. About halfway through the 2nd
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watch. And like, that's who you sound
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like. OK, so a little bit later, you
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solved your own. I did.
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OK good. And I stand by it.
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All right, I stand by it. So when we get to that scene,
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we're going to pause for a moment.
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You're going to listen and I'm gonna tell you, and then you're
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gonna go back and see if you can hear it.
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Sounds great. OK.
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I'm excited, good game, I appreciate it.
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Well, hope you appreciate this synopsis from IMDb because I'm
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going to. Give that to you now.
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Do you want to check the IMDb or are you?
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Just let it go. Let it go.
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It's not gonna change, OK. You start off the year with
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such. This, buddy, it's already down
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now. We're not of January yet at time
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of recordation. Obviously we're past Groundhog
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Day at this point, clearly. An American reporter travels to
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the Australian Outback to meet eccentric poacher Mick Crocodile
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Dundee and invites him to New York City, where he comes face
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to face with the complexities of modern life.
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That's terrible. Is it too much?
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It's too much. Why would anybody want to watch
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that movie? It's classic.
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That's why I don't know, I don't love it.
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It's too long. I don't think it is what it
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wants to do. And then it's bad.
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All right, Well, we had a good run.
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Sure, Call them a poacher. So no, it's like that guy in the
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bar. Blatantly.
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Exactly. You don't know the facts, but
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you know anything. It's got guns, got bullets.
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Fake news Fake news. You need those big bullets to
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shoot those big. Fish.
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That's right. I don't know.
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You don't know. So here we are.
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We start out this movie actually in New York Newsday, back when
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they were big empires. Sure, absolutely, when there
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were newspapers and production people with scruples and morals.
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Yeah, I'd say simpler times, but not really.
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And they're still. Difficult, challenging.
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Different. Ink on your fingers.
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You know you don't want that. That's.
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Not good for anyone. But we get the sort of the
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introduction of what we're dealing with.
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Here the plot, if you can call it.
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That it is sand paper thin, I will admit that, but the idea of
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it's kind of fun. Sure, we can both agree that I
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imagine. She's hearing funny stories
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about a character. Yeah.
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I wanna go. Yeah.
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And frankly, when you have a budget like that in a news, you
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know, gathering organization, apparently, why not?
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Exactly right. I think about someone like Adam
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Sandler. I like Hawaii.
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I'm just going to keep making movies in Hawaii and invite my
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friends. I like my friends.
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What a guy. So he's an interesting.
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Character. It just feels like, you know, if
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I was a newspaper person like Australia, I'm sure I could find
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a story in Australia. Yeah, man, I'm gonna go to
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Australia for 10 days and you're gonna pay for it.
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Yeah, this is perfect. That checks.
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Exactly 100 I would do it for sure.
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So it makes sense to me. And this guy seems to have an
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interesting enough story. So you're in, you're into this,
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Absolutely. And we established there's a
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relationship between Richard and Sue, which I don't advise
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because they work. Other, yes, that's made clear.
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That's right. To us, that's clear.
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Yes, there is a thing about this relationship that runs
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throughout the movie that I have real problems with.
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But it does establish a little bit here that there is some
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connection between the two. Yeah.
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There's a romance, totally. Which will factor in a little
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later, but for now, she's going to go to Australia, right?
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This great story, It's going to be Walter.
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Walter. Played by somebody.
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And that somebody is John Malan. That's it.
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He's a rapscallion, that guy. Right?
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Combing his hair. Yeah.
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Looking all fine. Most useless character in the
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movie. Yeah.
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I'm shocked actually how much he's introduced, like how much
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he's a part of this relationship.
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Didn't have the script for. Him and then he's completely
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dropped and they make like a perfunctory phone call to him an
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hour and 20 minutes from now kind of thing.
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Just Oh yeah, still doing it. That's expensive.
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Call back then, by the way. Not easy.
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Just crazy. It's easy.
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Yeah, I guess. Yeah, you gotta.
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Die 8 Country or something, you know, You know, it just struck
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me as strange that this is theoretically one of, I would
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assume when you're introduced that this is a guy that's going
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to play a role and he's not, he's not really in this movie.
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I'm OK with that though. OK, alright.
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You like the two hander? Yeah, I love it.
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Just give me the Yeah, give me the man and woman.
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For me, one hand is usually enough, but let me tell you, we
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get some beautiful shots of Australia from a helicopter.
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One of those helicopters with the clear glass.
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Yeah. You into that?
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Yeah, yeah, you, you know your helicopters, your helicopter
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guy, you don't know cars, but helicopters all over.
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It Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of glass in the windshield
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on a. Helicopter, that's what it
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particular, but here we are in Walkabout Creek, pretty quiet
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town. There's no one around.
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We did not visit this on my trip.
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No, never never tour. Downtown, buddy, Downtown.
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Is this your type of bar? Well, I haven't been to a bar
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for a very long time. Good for you.
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It's quiet, it seems. Well, the crowd.
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It's where everybody in the town seems to be.
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Yeah. It's not my type of or.
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No, no, no. It's got booze in it.
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I don't really do. And a rowdy bunch.
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I'm not rowdy. Used to be used to.
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You used to have a problem. I was a guy that might have been
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interested in punching the guy with the glasses on his.
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Head. Yeah, not kissing.
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Him not kissing him, but I could have been involved in that type
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of scenario. Especially if you're stretching.
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My worst days. Especially if you were
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stretching. What a punk.
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Did you like the story though? The legend.
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Oh yeah, I'm a big fan of that kind of thing.
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Anytime as you know, if you can set up a character before you're
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introduced to a. Character, you do like that.
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I'm in now whether the payoff is worth it, like different movies,
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different characters or you know, but but in terms of a
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structure, I love it. I think it's great idea.
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And can you either be menacing, right?
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Did you hear about the guy? He killed the guy.
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Oh, my gosh, he killed this guy, right?
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And he shows up and you're like, oh, yeah, this guy.
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I know this guy's trouble. With the usual suspects correct?
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I like how the waitress calls out Wally.
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Like your story gets better every time.
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Snake infested. He lost his leg, dragged himself
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all the way right past the hospital, right into the bar.
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And like, that's a fun story. Yeah, totally.
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And the legend is really more important than anything in these
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kinds of stories, right? Yeah, of course.
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So I love it. It ties right in.
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And when we're introduced to Mick as he comes in, Yeah, this
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is that guy, right? He's got the crocodile with him.
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Yeah. It's fake, though.
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Yeah, sure. For those who don't stuffed
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stuff. So it is real.
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That's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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But the first note I have about Paul Hogan is this guy is
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leather. That skin is like Roy Scheider.
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Oh, yeah. Jaws, too.
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Well, that's just. Yeah.
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Heathery. The sun, my friend.
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I don't know if I brought this up at some point where you are
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in Australia, the sun's very close to the Earth and the ozone
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hole is lingering around that area.
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So you're going to get toasty. I wouldn't survive.
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I can last a couple weeks, Sure, But yeah, very leathery.
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Like you with your pants in your 20s, if you recall.
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Or leather pants. I never.
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Wore. No, you didn't.
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That's right. No, I thought you did.
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No, I couldn't tell the difference for where this guy's
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pants began or his shirt began. His jacket began.
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It was like he was all wearing. Everything but his wallet,
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ironically. What was Velcro?
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The rest of, Yeah, very leathery, but you know,
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attractive enough you can't see. Speaking of which, did you get
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that attraction, that chemistry when they first meet?
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Cause she has a look on her face.
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I don't think there is chemistry whatsoever.
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Isn't that kind of ironic as you mentioned they are married?
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They really married for like 20. Years.
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Not anymore. Well, no chemistry.
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But they were, if not married before this movie, they were
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married like during this movie, OK?
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And there's not a single solitary moment between the two
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of them that I feel any sense of friendship, let alone romance.
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Interesting. I think it's actually quite
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important to know if they were married before the movie or
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after, because that's a big difference.
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Sure, like a lot would have already the the love eyes would.
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Have faced yeah, you're saying well, there's a lot of actors
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who meet, yes you know, and they're together for awhile or
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if you're going in it together but that's interesting.
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I did. Get something out of them.
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It wasn't like lights out, but I thought on I bought in.
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OK, I bought in. She sucks.
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Yeah. And so because of that, I have
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no and, but I think even if I accepted her as being credible
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actor, I just didn't feel anything between the two at any
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point. See, I don't think she sucked,
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OK? I think that's something we're
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gonna differ. On literally cause you're
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willing to accept that like there was some romance there.
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I think part of why I don't is because she sucks so bad.
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I thought she was fine and this could.
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Be it, he says. It's revealed that he's been
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divorced. She asks.
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You know, what's his story? Oh yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, he says. I went walkabout. 18 months?
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Well, he says 2, but apparently it was 18 according to Walt.
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That's right. And and yes, no sense of time
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though. So she didn't wanna wait, I
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guess. Would you?
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Not for leather, I mean aged leather 18 months.
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I do like his lack of sense of time.
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Yes, Say that, right. Yeah.
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Your time guy. I am a time guy.
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But when he looks up and says, oh, it's 2:20 and she, oh, it is
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220. But the fact that he had looked
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at Walley's watch before, I'm thinking this guy might be a bit
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of a fraud. Yeah.
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Well, that's a legend, right? Print the legend is what?
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It is. I like the uncertainty of how
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much of this is actually true of this character.
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So I think for all the faults I have and will continue to have
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throughout the movie, I find him charming.
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I can see the attraction. I can see why you might want to
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host the Oscars. Yeah, I see how he became a
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thing. To a certain extent, anyway.
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Looks good on paper. Yeah, and I think he's good in
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the movie. I think he doesn't have a lot to
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do. And I think that goes back to
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the screenplay that I'm questioning is it's Oscar
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nomination. He's kind of being himself, I
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imagine to a certain. Level to a certain certain
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character he's developed, obviously feels very comfortable
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in it. But these early scenes, I do
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like the setups, these little jokes, a little shyster.
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He's a little bit of a fraud, certainly, you're right, but not
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all fraud, and I think that's the fun.
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Part That's a good point because we see how he is with the bull.
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Yeah, that's a bowl, right? That looks like a bull to.
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Me in the middle of the road. Yeah.
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And I will say this was a good camera shot.
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Like it's a pretty intense moment.
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Sure, close up on the. Face.
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Yeah. And we're getting like another
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mind meld essentially in an Australian movie.
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Basically, you're right. Thing touches, it does a little
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thing and then it just lays down.
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Makes the weird sounds. And now this was a thing that
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lived on in the schoolyards. Oh, really?
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Oh yeah, We were doing this stuff in the neighborhood.
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I really missed out on that. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't like
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everybody, everything, but it was like, again, cultural thing
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this movie was. And that was one of those scenes
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that was in the trailer, and it lived a little longer than the.
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Movies. Trajectory because of it.
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I remember going to like Animal Kingdom, the Disney park, OK,
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and joking with the people I was with making that to different
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animals around, like, so it's in the air that that one in
19:37
particular is one of those scenes that lived on.
19:39
Really. Issue is it doesn't really help.
19:40
It's still in the way. Yeah, I thought that.
19:42
Did you? I thought my nitpicking.
19:43
Here, no, I think that that is really funny to me because the
19:47
threat isn't that he's going to kill them, they're in a truck.
19:50
The threat is more get out of the way.
19:52
So I think it's a good scene for no purpose.
19:57
Yeah, exactly, I asked my wife. Like I said, listen, honey, is
20:00
it just me or is there still a problem here on the road?
20:03
What's your opinion? And.
20:05
She said leave me alone. Don't talk to me.
20:08
She's just happy watching another classic.
20:10
That's right, happy to take another classic off the shelf.
20:14
And the whole point of this tour, by the way, is she wants
20:18
to go to where it all happened. Yeah, she wants the profile on
20:22
the guy. I have a little bit of issues
20:24
with the plot. Ohk OK, like I don't want.
20:26
I don't know, like that's not exactly a good idea.
20:30
I mean, that's she's a journalist.
20:31
That's the whole point. I think we talked to 20 minutes
20:33
ago about it being a. Can you just tell the story
20:36
though? Does she have to go?
20:38
Then you're not a reporter, you're just addictive.
20:40
What do you call it? Just dictating.
20:43
Yeah, well, I guess she needs some pictures.
20:45
Pictures of story. You need a context?
20:48
You know, that's news. That's reporting, buddy.
20:49
I guess I'm lazy. Lazy.
20:51
Yeah, you tell me the story, You tell me the story.
20:56
I'll just type it. In fact, you type it, I'll
20:58
publish. I actually can type pretty good
21:01
60 words a minute. That's great.
21:03
Yeah, it's a keyboarding class back in Windows.
21:04
The thing? Yeah, yeah, you're also a woman,
21:07
it turns out, in the 50s. I wish.
21:11
Let me tell. You things were so great for
21:13
them. Back then we got a crocodile in
21:16
the water. Yeah, she's a little startled,
21:18
but no big deal at this point, so it's fine.
21:21
It's in a distance. Yes, she sees the boat.
21:25
They go from boat to boat. Yeah, but you see.
21:29
The original boat, the big transition from the the new boat
21:32
to the old boat. So they could call a boat to
21:34
boat. Yeah.
21:34
Classic boat to boat. Yeah, the CD special, they call
21:39
it. So we're getting into what
21:42
actually happened. He shows that the croc bit
21:44
through the boat. He was just a peaceful
21:46
fisherman, allegedly, Yes, she thinks he's been poaching.
21:52
The bullets tell that story. But so he just starts to tell
21:56
the story of what he suffered. Yeah, the attack, that's right,
22:00
yeah. And he tells the story.
22:02
Now you tell me how this story affected because you were down
22:05
under. Well, luckily I wasn't down
22:07
underneath the water underneath the log waiting to be eaten.
22:11
Yeah, now did you tenderizing? That's right.
22:14
Did you know anything about crocodile?
22:16
Eating. Not really, no.
22:17
This story, it's riveting, it's interesting facts.
22:21
Totally. It reminded me a lot of Jaws.
22:23
Do these sharks do the same thing or they?
22:25
They tear you apart, they shift you around, the tire you out.
22:29
They don't necessarily leave you for dead.
22:31
But Quint talks about how you know you're getting the
22:34
shakedown. The shakedown.
22:36
He talks about a little shake and little tenderizing.
22:38
Jurassic Park, if you remember. He talks about the Raptor who
22:41
he's trying to scare the kid so they don't go for the jugular.
22:44
Yeah, they go here and you know you're being eaten.
22:47
That's a few years, obviously later.
22:49
But this story, I thought, was very.
22:51
Effective and I imagine if you fact checked that's what they
22:55
do. I trust it.
22:55
They save you for later, they don't eat you right then and
22:57
there. Need a whole one whole person on
23:00
you gotta chip nipple. They could have just had lunch.
23:02
That's right, you don't know we don't have nipple.
23:03
Yeah. That's it.
23:05
Save it for later. But you also don't want, you
23:06
want to protect it. They're like hide you under
23:08
things because they're gonna come.
23:09
Back cats do that with stuff, Yeah, for different reasons.
23:12
Bastards. But it's getting late fill up
23:14
and they need to settle in for the night.
23:16
Set up camp. In the Outback.
23:19
Yeah, it's where they are still there, Outback.
23:23
Some pretty good dialogue, so when it comes to script it's
23:26
engaging. You're locking in here.
23:28
This is your yeah. OK they're talking about the
23:31
indigenous. It's not their land.
23:34
The land is like their mother and like 2 fleas.
23:37
Don't fight over whose dog this is.
23:40
He was raised by a tribe. Yes, that's what he says, Yeah.
23:44
I missed that the first time. That's a lie.
23:46
There's a lot to miss. Would have been nodding off
23:49
right there. She discusses how she was in the
23:51
past with the man. With the guy, yeah.
23:54
Divorced. So he's been divorced now she's
23:56
been divorced. Perfect.
23:57
Double the protester he was. Oh, yeah.
24:00
This feels like an 80s thing. End of the 80s.
24:03
It's a lot of like, get over yourselves.
24:06
Oh, yeah, yeah, hippies are useless, you know, like, get on
24:09
board. So the fact that this sort of
24:11
protest he marched for everything is like a, a thing
24:14
that is being joked about is like he's a loser for it.
24:17
I think. Now Fast forward 40 years.
24:20
There's a lot of shit to protest and I'm happy that people are
24:22
doing. It Oh, absolutely.
24:23
The thing about the arms. Race like, yeah, whatever.
24:26
Yeah, think about the arms race. He's like, it's not really my
24:29
problem. Yeah, everybody's, everybody's
24:32
problem. Exactly.
24:32
And that's the problem with the yeah, that situation.
24:35
Everyone's. Yeah, whatever, no big deal.
24:36
This is where I'm listening to her talk.
24:39
This is the moment. This is the moment where I hear
24:42
somebody else. OK, so we're going to take a
24:45
moment and you're going to listen to it.
24:47
All righty. Have you have protested
24:49
anything? Sure, every time it gets thrown
24:52
out of the pub. Come on, I'm serious.
24:55
I mean, where would Someone Like You stand on, say, the nuclear
24:59
debate? Anything, David?
25:01
You stumped me again. Nothing, nothing stand.
25:04
Out. All right, I'm going to tell
25:05
you, OK? And you're gonna listen to it
25:07
again, OK? Annette Benning.
25:09
What do you think about the arms race?
25:12
Something closer to home, the Aborigines.
25:16
What do you think about their claims to get the land back?
25:19
Now that you say it, hmm. There's a yeah, a lilt in this,
25:25
in Linda's lips that gives me a little Benning.
25:29
You're sad. It pains me.
25:32
You can see it in my face. If this were on YouTube folks,
25:34
you would see the pain in my face to say, Dave, you might be
25:37
right on this. Because you gave me no love on
25:39
the Bradley Cooper Toe cutter, that is.
25:41
Ridiculous. That is the silliest.
25:43
Thing I stand by it, but this however I couldn't shake it.
25:46
I don't know that I will be able to shake it, but yeah, you
25:51
sadly, you're a weird. Well done.
25:55
Yeah. Thank you.
25:55
Good show. Appreciate it, I know it's just
25:57
something. It's I'm impressed that you were
26:00
able to pull that because I did not hear that whatsoever.
26:03
But now. Maybe that's what distracted me
26:05
from her performance because I didn't really have an.
26:07
Issue were watching at Benning, Yeah.
26:09
Maybe Oscar winner I imagine at this point if not nominated.
26:13
Nominated a few times but never won.
26:15
Very sad. Should have won American Beauty.
26:18
Yeah, it would have been a clean sweep for the Big 5 on that.
26:20
One, maybe that's why you got to keep it fair.
26:23
Spread the love. One animal I did see Phillip
26:37
while in Australia was the kangaroo.
26:39
You mentioned yes. But not hopping around.
26:41
Lazy. Were they being shot at any
26:43
time? Because if you get shot at,
26:45
you're going to hop around. I don't think you can do that
26:46
anymore, I don't think. I don't think you can do it then
26:48
either. He said it was legal.
26:50
I don't think they're doing in the middle of the night.
26:53
Wow, at the very least it's the ground upon.
26:58
You ever see Kangaroo Jack? Negative.
27:00
I saw that movie in 2002. Thousand and two for something
27:03
like. That McConnell O'Connell
27:04
O'Connell. That's it.
27:06
Produced by Jerry Bruckheimer. Oh, Jerry B.
27:09
And I thought to myself, thank goodness Jerry Bruckheimer is
27:14
going to have a box office bomb on his hands, because no one in
27:18
their right mind would want to see a heist movie with a CGI
27:23
kangaroo starring Jerry O'Connell and that fucking
27:27
movie. Many millions.
27:30
So much not like Armageddon levels.
27:32
Of first office no one's gonna touch.
27:34
That, but clearly was a huge success.
27:37
Fan. Favorite and something for
27:39
everyone in that. I thought to myself, you've
27:40
never seen this movie. I thought to myself, This is why
27:44
I don't have a career in Hollywood.
27:45
Because if you had said, Phil, give me $5000 to help me make
27:50
Kangaroo Jack, I would have laughed in your face and walked
27:52
away. And the other person that gave
27:54
you $5000 would have made half a million.
27:57
Yeah, he didn't make it, buddy. That's my kangaroo story.
28:00
I assume you have the same one. Or mines from the actual movie,
28:04
This one. No, no.
28:05
Jerry McConnell to be seen. Or O'Connell even.
28:08
She wants him to do something about.
28:09
It yes, she wants yes, yes. And he does.
28:12
He wants to impress the lady. Don't we all?
28:15
Sometimes not anymore on the slow decline though.
28:20
I think it's a fun scene. I enjoy it, it's shot well, but
28:25
logistically my only issue, and it could come across as a
28:28
potential nitpick. He shoots at the guy, yeah, and
28:33
he's pointing the gun in his direction, but the bullet hits
28:35
the side of the gun. Yeah, yeah, the geography is a
28:38
little. Yeah, yeah.
28:39
And then he shoots 2 more times. I'm sure he has good aim.
28:44
I'm not casting aspersions, you know.
28:47
I don't like to cast anything, no.
28:49
Maybe a spell if I could. If you could.
28:50
But I can't, no you webcast, you know you've done that on
28:54
occasion. But that was dangerous and you
28:57
should be more careful with. Firearms.
28:59
I mean, shooting out the lights at one point, another.
29:00
So now you're like, I don't know what he's shooting at.
29:02
It's funny having a dead kangaroo.
29:04
Like shooting at the guy is funny.
29:07
Sure. Just I don't know if it holds
29:09
up. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
29:10
Now, what I did think holds up is the snake scene.
29:13
I don't want to overlook that. Tell me more.
29:16
Normal conversation, yeah. Grabs it from behind, snaps its
29:21
neck. Don't really have a neck or some
29:23
vertebrae or they have one really long neck.
29:25
Could. Be you think about that.
29:26
Did you know? Yeah, I think about predator
29:29
when I think of these kind of animals like that, you know, and
29:31
they're in the jungle and. Yeah.
29:33
Snakes are climbing. Yeah, whatever.
29:35
Yeah. I like this one.
29:36
Venomous, sure. Not poisonous.
29:37
There's a difference. Tell me more.
29:39
No. Look at Science Corner with Dave
29:41
here. No time for that.
29:44
Anything to do with like the animals of this.
29:46
That's the 1st 20 minutes. Thirty minutes.
29:49
That's part of it. Because that's where we are.
29:52
Because we're not going to be here forever.
29:54
No, I'm moving on Blue for sure. Another scene or two here.
29:58
Yes, yes, one animal that does present themselves in this
30:01
moment. Finally, we get to have a little
30:04
bit of. Croc action, yes.
30:07
First we get a little butt shot though, for crack.
30:09
Actually crack almost. Yeah.
30:11
That was quite a butt scene though, pretty buddy.
30:13
I'm not afraid to say it that was.
30:16
Totally reasonable but everything about her performance
30:19
is pretty terrible but luckily her ass is on point.
30:22
Maybe that was a butt double though.
30:24
Didn't look like it. The profile was there.
30:26
I felt I spent some time. That you wish you felt, you wish
30:30
you spent some time with. It and I think it's clear that
30:32
this is actually her butt. And I now see what Paul Hogan
30:36
may or may not have been. Do you think that water is good
30:39
to drink? No.
30:41
My wife called that one out. It looks disgusting.
30:43
Yeah. Swamp.
30:44
Swamp. Yeah.
30:45
Don't go in there. What are you doing?
30:46
I don't know, but we gotta have an animal attacker so he can be
30:49
the hero and the legend. Live up to the legend.
30:51
Yeah, after he hits his head. That's cute.
30:55
So what do you think of that scene?
30:56
Did it age well? I guess would be.
30:58
My thoughts. Generally speaking, it was fine,
31:00
OK. I thought the attack was edited
31:02
well, so it cut out away any potential issues with the
31:07
effect. And also, I thought it was nice
31:10
to see him actually do the thing, stab him in the head
31:13
thing, right? And so we've heard this legend.
31:16
Is he really this thing? Is he the fraud that we thought?
31:19
And here we are. And you're like, OK, so it's
31:21
proof that it happened. It gives them a moment.
31:24
That hug came too fast. I don't know, it was jarring to
31:27
me. I need it two more seconds.
31:30
For whatever reason, it was just too instant.
31:32
OK, a little too tight. OK.
31:34
Editing wise, alright. Let it breathe a bit.
31:36
OK, let's have a moment. There, send your notes.
31:38
I think it was fine generally, but the scene itself, it just
31:43
propelled the story forward, brought them closer.
31:45
And anytime there's that kind of adrenaline and your hearts
31:49
pumping, then yeah, you're going to be a little bit more amorous.
31:52
They do kiss post fishing. Yeah, now what do you think
31:56
about that fake fish we've established he doesn't know that
31:59
he's. I don't think he.
32:00
Knows. I don't think he knows, and I
32:02
don't think he tells her. She's told him is that she was
32:04
once married and now divorced. Yeah, fair game.
32:08
Fair game. Good movie, by the way.
32:10
But she knows she has the information.
32:14
She's withholding it. She is withholding it.
32:15
That's probably why you don't like her as a person.
32:18
I am fine with withholding information.
32:20
Trust me. What aren't you telling?
32:23
Me, I think that it's a character flaw, yeah, and
32:27
continues to present itself as such throughout the rest of the
32:30
movie. But it's not presented to the
32:32
audience as a character flaw. That Yes, right.
32:35
It's not a known character flaw. She's just a bad character.
32:38
Yeah, that's a good point. Because something.
32:40
Didn't it's not played for that, right?
32:41
Like it's not like it comes back later or there's some misgivings
32:44
I don't understand. Like I missed the scene or
32:46
something. Questionable.
32:47
So I don't really like that they kind of make out or kiss here.
32:51
But I don't mind that they kiss. There should be a moment
32:54
afterwards. I shouldn't have done that.
32:56
I'm seeing somebody some level. That's it.
32:57
Self reflection. Come on, she's into.
32:59
It maybe she's very good at compartmentalizing.
33:02
Yes, I can't say that word stop. Tricky one.
33:06
No one knows. I tried that about four times
33:08
and it's not happening. And another break and levity
33:11
here, another opportunity to show.
33:13
I shouldn't even say levity because it's more I think of a
33:16
showcase of the Australian Indigenous peoples.
33:20
Oh yes, that's right. Neville, it's a dance party.
33:23
Yes. Almost forgot about that.
33:24
Yeah. So.
33:25
He's a fun character, He's interesting.
33:27
Fine enough. Absolutely.
33:28
Kind of plays the game, yeah. And then we have an extended
33:31
sequence of the dancing, which feels like legitimate tribal
33:33
dancing from that part of the world.
33:35
Yeah. Did you see any of that?
33:37
I didn't see it hands on. We went to see one, but we were
33:40
there too early and we would have had to wait an hour and we
33:43
had like a pretty tight schedule.
33:44
Sure, that's what we attempt to do.
33:46
That was actually in New Zealand, so.
33:47
There's so it really took in the culture you're in.
33:53
Are we just basically had shawarma, right?
33:56
Yes, fear. Where's the halal vegan store?
34:01
Place a PlayStation. Yeah, I was more like Neville.
34:04
I like wearing the jeans though. It was great.
34:06
It's a nice scene. The moment where he stares at
34:09
the camera, I feel that that's in the trailer and that's a
34:13
moment where you feel that stare.
34:15
There's energy in there, yeah. Yeah, one thing I do love about
34:18
that moment is she says, oh, I can't take your picture because
34:22
it. Takes your soul.
34:23
Yeah, we did go through some caves and stuff.
34:26
There were a few areas where we couldn't take any pictures
34:28
whatsoever. And he's like, no, your lens cap
34:31
is on. That's what Neville says.
34:32
Yes, that is a funny line. Yeah.
34:33
Yeah, Oscar, give it to him. But I think it's a good way to
34:39
end on the Australia part. With the tribe.
34:42
Sure. Yep, because we are.
34:44
Switching gears here, That's it. We're about 45 minutes into the
34:47
movie, so about halfway, halfway.
34:49
Time to go. Let's change it up.
34:51
Money talks. I will say, fundamentally, I was
34:55
surprised at how long it took to get to New York.
34:58
I thought maybe this whole thing was in Australia.
35:00
I did not recall, but it makes more sense that I remember the
35:02
bull in Australia and then everything else I remembered
35:05
vaguely was from New York. So I really didn't expect to
35:08
spend 45 minutes. Did you find it too?
35:10
Much. Yeah.
35:11
Oh. I found the pacing of this movie
35:12
to be very challenging. No issue there, We're different
35:15
people. That we are and partly because I
35:18
felt no chemistry between the two.
35:20
I didn't feel like this time was building that relationship and
35:23
and movies different. That's right in in movies.
35:25
If you're going to do that right, OK, that's what this time
35:28
it's building to that. And then whatever little bit I
35:31
may have felt was dismantled by the time she shows up in New
35:36
York and starts making out with her boyfriend only when it's
35:40
become clear that he Crocodile Dundee.
35:43
Oh, we got split up in customs. It feels like she's playing a
35:48
real fucking game with these two people.
35:50
Yeah. I'll make out with you because I
35:52
know he's back in customs. Oht, here he is.
35:54
And then like, what the fuck? Come on, come on.
35:58
I'm not against it. I'm like judging it.
36:00
I think you are. The type of movie this wants to
36:02
be in the way it's trying to give it fails because of things
36:06
like this. These are not likable people.
36:08
She's not likable person because she's not acknowledging the fact
36:11
that she's basically 2 timing each of them like she's playing
36:14
the two off each other. I was distracted by the
36:16
escalator fiasco. He's coming down.
36:19
Yes, Claire. Yeah.
36:21
Yeah. He's scared, terrified this guy
36:23
can tackle and wrestle an alligator.
36:26
Yeah, it's funny. But you're not wrong, I don't
36:28
have an issue so much with the performance, I just don't think
36:31
she's that great of a person in the romance side of things.
36:34
Yeah because mine is deeper than that.
36:36
That first 45 is a complete waste of.
36:49
I was just thinking about Die Hard.
36:52
In the midst of this movie. Or in this yeah, when he's on
36:55
the plane, scrunches with your toes.
36:57
It's a good idea to do that. And then Reginald they'll
37:01
Johnson shows up like, oh, look at that.
37:04
What I felt very similarly is and I felt almost bad, but I saw
37:10
this guy get out of the vehicle and I thought is that Al Powell
37:15
downgrade, right and a total downgrade.
37:18
I thought that as well, yeah. He's playing Argyle in this
37:20
movie, but it is an upgrade. Because from the timeline, yeah.
37:24
But he ends up being. Two years later.
37:26
Two years. Later, he's the cop, so he's on
37:28
the. Up.
37:28
He's on the. Up was nice to see old Reginald
37:31
Vel Johnson. Yeah, once again, he's also an
37:33
alcoholic, it turns out, it seems, OHSU emergency use.
37:37
Buddy, emergency customers only. That's right.
37:40
You got to have something in the ice box.
37:42
Just believe me, I know. Yeah, that's fair.
37:44
But it's a good way to get the ball rolling in New York to have
37:48
a familiar face, absolutely, And there's a lot you can do here.
37:51
Absolutely stranger in a strange land.
37:53
You've got lots of opportunity. Despite the fact I mean it's a
37:56
thin plot, the idea just open up a lot of doors.
37:59
You have smoking in the elevator.
38:01
Classic 80s. We get the nice hotel tour and
38:06
we get the introduction of a bidet.
38:08
Surprised he didn't make the bidet mate joke.
38:12
Missed opportunity as far as I'm concerned, so we had to make
38:15
sure we said it here on the podcast.
38:17
Thank you. Yeah, he finally figures it out.
38:20
He's very proud of himself. I love when he shakes the guy's
38:22
hand. He's just looking for a tip.
38:23
Yeah. And he's very friendly, right?
38:25
He's talking to people. Yep, I'm gonna be staying here
38:27
for a few days. You know, I'll probably see you
38:29
around. Yeah, 7 million, 7 million
38:31
people, but they all want to live together or they wouldn't
38:33
be here. That's right.
38:34
So they must be very nice place. I love New York.
38:37
Ever been? No, haven't.
38:38
No mistake. But not city.
38:40
Yeah, everyone's big difference. Yeah, Malone.
38:45
Yeah. Break Rochester in the city,
38:49
buddy. Yeah, so clearly I haven't done
38:51
any walking in New York. No.
38:53
Neither has Mick. I did like the scene where he's
38:58
walking against the grain. Yeah, I mean, that's a pretty
39:01
cheesy or cheap way to tell that story, but I visually, but I
39:05
think it's really good. He was out seeing the sights and
39:08
you can't get edge wise and just standing on a newspaper boxes
39:13
you can merge back in like he's helpless.
39:15
So he just gets up on the lamppost.
39:17
Yeah, that was kind of funny. I think gets on the horse.
39:19
Yeah, those people exist. I don't know if they still do.
39:21
Absolutely. OK, Horsepower, buddy, you've
39:24
been there. I haven't.
39:25
I'm not in any position, but if you call 7:00, she's picking
39:30
him. Up on the button.
39:33
She's punctual, Sure, give her. That he's looking at the sun.
39:35
He's got it. And we have Richard there.
39:39
This fucking guy. Well, he's already had a few
39:40
drinks. Clearly.
39:42
See. Yeah.
39:43
But if a problem perhaps. These are real fucking asshole
39:46
he. Well, he's a lemon.
39:47
Let's. Yeah, you wanna take him back,
39:49
is what you're saying? It's like a lemon of human.
39:51
That's what Crock calls. Yeah, he's a lemon.
39:52
Is somebody you don't want. He's a dude.
39:54
Like a like a dud. That's a better term.
39:56
Did you find Richard mean during dinner?
39:58
He did. He warrants.
39:59
The the punch, the punch, the elbow.
40:01
It must have been a punch. It's a good move.
40:03
I think everything about this scene is terrible.
40:06
I think it's like, it's not great.
40:08
The problem with movies from this era?
40:10
Is that it's very stereotype, like if we need smarmy we'll
40:14
just get like the most smarmy. Guy should have got Richard
40:17
Dreyfus. Could have gotten Richard just
40:18
saying yeah. A little too old 86 No, that
40:21
might have been. Alright, could have been alright
40:23
10 years after Jaws, yeah, it's in the wheelhouse.
40:26
I think that his performance though fine I guess, but it's
40:31
like. Better than hers.
40:33
This is another one that comes into problems because, OK, let's
40:36
accept that she is in love with this guy.
40:40
Which guy? Richard.
40:41
Richard OK which that's what we're led to believe at the
40:45
beginning a normal relationship fine.
40:47
So then maybe the love triangle is what you're going to try and
40:51
pull off here. But I don't think that she's any
40:54
better with Mick OK we got 3 characters where it's like I
40:57
don't like anybody at this table that's mean and this guy is so
41:01
obnoxious because you can't just be a little obnoxious got to be
41:03
the most obnoxious. I'll serve for everybody.
41:06
I'm going to speak Italian, I'm going to make joke about
41:08
kangaroo and grits and just obnoxious.
41:13
So I hated this scene. And then Croc punches him and
41:16
Linda doesn't seem to give a shit.
41:18
She didn't see it. The guy all of a sudden is
41:21
comatose at the table. This is a sneaker situation.
41:25
If you remember, we called out that the old punch would knock
41:27
you out that. Doesn't knock him out I'm fine
41:31
with. That we have to because you have
41:32
on the movie. Rules exactly.
41:34
Yeah, but the fact that he is knocked out would tell me that
41:37
Sue should have some fucking awareness that something changed
41:40
between when I looked behind me and when I looked in front of
41:43
me. They did have a lot to drink.
41:45
It does not. Maybe.
41:45
Just kicked in. Anyway, so I hate that it's so
41:48
clearly that he's a useless piece of shit and this movie is
41:51
setting us up to root for Mick Dundee.
41:53
I'm rooting for him, but I think.
41:55
You are though. No, I don't care about this
41:58
relationship because the person he's like trying to be better
42:00
than is the worst human being on the planet so.
42:03
So easy. You don't feel any, so she
42:06
chooses him, which she does later.
42:08
You're like, Oh, well then Mick mustn't be all that interesting
42:10
or that relationship doesn't mean anything, or the
42:13
relationship that she has with Richard doesn't matter because
42:15
he got punched and she doesn't seem to care.
42:17
So everything about this scene I've really disliked.
42:19
You're telling me that you don't like the?
42:21
Scene. That's what I'm saying.
42:23
What are your? Thoughts.
42:24
I like the waiter. Tell me more, nice guy she
42:27
friendly. I didn't have the issues that
42:29
you had to that level. Fair.
42:30
I think you're overanalyzing it buddy.
42:33
You digging way too deep. This movie is not meant to be
42:36
taken too. Seriously, it's probably true.
42:39
That's probably true, but I did have issues that she doesn't
42:41
seem to care and I feel like that is germane to the story.
42:43
I'm not going to push back too much with her.
42:45
Because you're right, I don't think she's a great gal.
42:48
I think they both can do better, certainly, which says a lot
42:52
because Richard's not that great of a guy.
42:53
No. So there you go.
42:54
I think he just had a little bit too much to drink.
42:56
I don't think he's normally that bad.
42:58
He is later, OK, You're right at the dinner party.
43:00
I think he's also not very. Nice OHT.
43:02
He's fine, don't worry about it. But it was enough to send Croc
43:07
off on a mission after the drop off.
43:10
What does he? Do well immediately.
43:11
He gets into a taxi, meets a new friend, an Italian.
43:15
His words, not mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
43:18
I didn't think Italians were big drinkers.
43:20
A lot of wine, a lot of wine, but.
43:22
I suspect that's. All but not the hard stuff, I
43:25
don't. Know.
43:25
Regardless, they both go to the boozer.
43:28
Yes and showcase scene. Just kidding, it was fun.
43:32
I love the shark story. Pretty playful.
43:33
Yeah. Kill the shark, open it up. 3
43:36
Filipino fisherman. Yep.
43:38
So I thought that was funny, but very dated in some areas.
43:44
We have we have a trans woman, we have a black person.
43:49
And they're both played to that character.
43:51
The extremes of whatever that is.
43:52
Yeah. So I don't think you can grab
43:55
somebody like that anymore. That's probably frowned upon.
43:58
Does it twice in this movie. Does it twice, but it lives in
44:01
that. World.
44:02
That's right, you can't. Judge, you can't.
44:04
I won't. He doesn't mean ill will.
44:06
Doesn't seem it's new to him. Yeah, but it's not a Sheila.
44:10
And not Sheila, No. Did you enjoy that sequence?
44:13
Yeah, I thought. Generally this was a piece
44:14
because I hated so much the previous scene.
44:17
Actually found this to be a nice levity.
44:18
Anything could be anything to kind of rise it above and like
44:21
OK, remind me why I kind of like this character.
44:24
Obviously take away the. Put them in.
44:25
The racism or like the sex, you know, like those things again,
44:29
baked in. He liked the guy.
44:30
So there's not endorsing it, but there is a little bit of like
44:34
exterior typical kind of dialogue.
44:36
Whatever for sure. But I was like, well, remind me
44:38
why I like this. And this scene kind of does
44:40
that. He's good hearted, he's funny,
44:42
he's playful. And any scene that ends with
44:45
some hookers. Yeah, that'll reel you back.
44:47
Gets me interested exactly. What's funny about that scene,
44:51
Phil, is that it's not funny. What I liked about it,
44:54
Interesting. I love this moment, OK.
44:56
It's one of my favorite, if not the favorite serious scene.
45:00
Is it because they offered him a couple of freebies?
45:02
Well, I mean it's. A good deal gets you interested,
45:04
I thought. It's his naivete.
45:07
Did I say that right? His look on his face is like,
45:10
I'm being sincere here. I want to take you out for
45:13
dinner. He has no idea what their job
45:17
is. Sure, and I thought he played
45:20
that excellent. I was.
45:22
Really impressed. Wow, yeah, that took it, guy.
45:25
Yeah, he didn't. He didn't get a sense of.
45:27
I didn't dislike it. I actually like this overall.
45:29
Like I said, this whole sequence, this whole section of
45:31
the film I enjoyed. You sound like a genuine good
45:34
person who just really doesn't know what's going.
45:36
On here, yeah, I didn't get that same level of.
45:40
Watch it again. You want me to like this
45:42
character? These are the scenes in way you
45:44
get me to. Just his innocence.
45:46
So I agree that definitely delivers.
45:47
Again, I didn't that specific thing.
45:49
Your loss. Didn't register, but of course
45:51
he's still punches the guy, which, you know, of course.
45:53
Pimps. Yeah, come on.
45:55
It's hard out. There for a pimp, that's the way
45:58
here. But I know the next scene.
46:00
This is your type of scene. You love a bathtub scene, that I
46:05
know. Put me in a bath, folks.
46:07
No, you're the bather. I am not.
46:09
However, I hate this scene. Ohhhhh yeah I can see why with.
46:14
Her character, yeah. As you continue along, why,
46:18
after what we've seen, she's a tease.
46:20
Is she still trying to sexualize herself to this Mick Dundee?
46:23
Guy and from the scene before, he's a good, honest guy.
46:27
He still seems to be when he's in this tub, he's cleaning his
46:30
clothes. He's bashful trope.
46:32
He's bashful and she just the worst performer.
46:35
I She's just so bad. His legs, senior, meek.
46:38
Everything about this is terrible.
46:40
Why is she riding her thighs up this door?
46:43
She just having some. Fun.
46:44
It just feels relaxed, incongruous to what is supposed
46:49
to be conveyed in the scene. If it wasn't for everything else
46:51
it would have been OK I think. Maybe, but that's playful.
46:54
But with the kiss and everything.
46:56
Just leading him. On he can't do that.
46:58
You shouldn't do that. No, I mean you can't because you
47:00
did. Just be honest with everybody.
47:02
Transparency, you know, feel about that Same way.
47:04
I like my helicopters. That's right.
47:10
You mentioned you've been in New York, right?
47:12
Yeah, couple times after that moment, little sightseeing.
47:17
Yes. It's nice.
47:18
Yeah, it's a beautiful city. It's great time.
47:20
Skyline. Yeah, absolutely.
47:22
Lots of things in part of State Building.
47:23
Yeah. It's beautiful.
47:25
I love it. It the first time I was ever
47:27
there, jump as fast as I could to the Empire State Building.
47:30
Looking out terrified me. I don't like heights.
47:32
Like your mom. Exactly.
47:33
Yeah, that's right. That story, she was terrified
47:35
going up. I was OK going up.
47:37
But once I was there. I have a trick though.
47:39
OK, look down, look straight, OK, and then gradually look
47:43
down. OK, so you're that worked for
47:46
me. You're looking out at distance.
47:49
OK Yeah, Infinity, right? You can see forever in slowly
47:52
and then as you gradually going down.
47:54
You're not shocked with the yeah.
47:56
Oh my God, I'm so high up. That worked for me cuz if I
47:59
looked immediately down Vertigo messed with my brain.
48:02
Got it? Scrunches with your toes.
48:03
Got it, got it. These are tips and tricks buddy,
48:05
and this brings. Back the New York music.
48:08
Yeah, I think it's the power station.
48:10
Feels like something out of Beverly Hills Cop.
48:12
It does a little bit. I remember the rhythm from
48:14
European vacation which will come.
48:16
Off eventually, haven't seen it because I wasn't allowed to.
48:19
Of course. Boobs.
48:20
Exactly. Yeah.
48:31
What I think the 80s, I think cocaine.
48:33
Oh yeah, this big back then, still is.
48:35
I had a lot of staying. Power, yeah, yeah, got cheaper
48:37
now 200. Bucks worth right there.
48:39
Yeah, that's what he says. But usually like a sinus
48:41
cleanser. That's funny.
48:42
That was funny. That's the kind of stuff, again,
48:44
where the movie is at its best, I think, is in those scenes,
48:47
fish out of water, unknowingly wrapped up in some high jinks,
48:51
if you will, or some silliness. The rest of it doesn't work for
48:54
me. These are the scenes that are my
48:56
takeaways. But Sue dancing.
48:58
Did you capture that moment? No.
49:00
Oh my God. Honestly, not now.
49:02
But look at it after. Huh?
49:04
Hilarious. Sure.
49:05
That's not good dancing. The 80s were crazy.
49:08
Tom man, it was fun to watch. It really was.
49:11
What's fun to watch over and over and over again is the
49:15
tagline for the movie. Basically, here it is.
49:19
Walking through New York, they leave and they end up getting
49:21
accosted here. And she is terrified.
49:25
Yeah, and why wouldn't you be? She's not a true New Yorker, I
49:29
guess. Yeah, exactly.
49:30
First of all, she claimed to be of all the guys got a knife.
49:33
Yeah, it's not a knife. No, it turns out it's not a
49:36
knife. This line was on every
49:39
commercial, every trailer. It is.
49:41
It was everywhere and it still is.
49:43
It's the thing. And I think people would say it
49:45
even if it weren't a knife. It would say, well, that's not a
49:47
TV. That's right, like.
49:48
I think I still use it, it would be periodically and it's never
49:52
funny when I do it, but. No, you don't have to do it with
49:54
an accent. I think the key.
49:55
What I found strange in this one mix Tarzan.
49:58
Oh yeah, yeah, one handed. And sound.
50:01
Right now, he didn't commit. Yeah, you did not.
50:04
No commitment. There.
50:05
Now, Speaking of commitment, we're gonna get to a moment soon
50:08
where she gets engaged to Richard.
50:11
Yeah, the proposal. But not before, for the second
50:14
time in the movie, a post traumatic make out sesh with old
50:20
Mick Dundee. Oh.
50:21
That's right, they do have another kissy kissy that just
50:24
makes the situation worse for you.
50:25
Does. This fucking pisses me off.
50:27
Yeah, that's not cool. So they go to this party.
50:31
Mike doesn't want to be there. He's this isn't his people.
50:34
I don't believe that he likes her at all or that there's any
50:37
relationship really building there.
50:39
They've. I mean, he, like, spend some,
50:41
Yeah, there's been some additional chemistry.
50:43
There's been some eye locking, though, so that pisses me off.
50:45
And then we go and within minutes of arriving at this
50:48
party, Richard makes the big plunge.
50:52
What the fuck, man? She's like.
50:54
Yeah, well, she didn't say. Yes, no, but come on, she said.
50:58
She has to buy sociation. What are you going to do?
51:00
You're in a corner. You're in a corner, I.
51:02
Love her hair piece by the way, I don't know what it was about
51:05
it. Into it I don't.
51:06
Know I just really like that look alright My wife like you
51:09
don't like any like additional like apparel and stuff like I
51:12
don't know yeah I love the look. Yeah, well, that sounds like
51:16
it's a something you guys need to.
51:18
Discuss. Yeah.
51:21
But yeah, obviously, because mixing love with her, that's
51:25
been made clear. Yeah, in words, maybe.
51:29
He didn't take the proposal too well.
51:31
No, he's gotta talk to old Gussie.
51:35
Get Me Out of here, Gus. Who has his old driving bottle
51:40
of booze? I'm telling you for the
51:42
customers, for the. Customer in a brown paper bag
51:46
for emergencies, he says. Yeah, this is Gus's time to
51:50
shine. Does he need a time to shine
51:52
box? So we can't spend 5 seconds
51:55
talking to Walter in this movie? But Reginald gets a whole
51:59
sequence in action sequence. I got upgraded to the police
52:02
officer buddy. That's right.
52:03
I remember vividly the boomerang looking thing, but I remember it
52:07
being a bigger issue, like a bigger thing made of it and that
52:10
it was Dundee that used it. So I had a completely wrong
52:15
because it doesn't come back and it's not Dundee.
52:18
Yeah, it seemed like a I don't know, the scene didn't seem to
52:22
fit, but. It just doesn't really make any
52:24
sense and it cuts right from there to his going walkabout
52:27
again. He loves the walkabout.
52:29
It's and he's done and obviously it happens.
52:31
He talks about, you know, failed relationship.
52:33
It's what you do. What I found a little bit funny
52:36
is I'm gonna go walk about, but the first thing I'm going to do
52:39
is get on a train. You're not walking.
52:42
That's my point. If you're going to walk about,
52:43
don't train about. Just going on the advice given
52:47
from the Bellboy. Right.
52:48
Yeah, yeah. The doorman, it's a little
52:51
silly. And how this movie wraps up, I
52:52
find just does not satisfy. So I want to dig into it a
52:56
little bit, of course, But happy to.
52:58
He walks away, goes to the subway.
53:00
She has some revelation, I guess, that she doesn't love
53:03
Richard, which we already knew because he's an idiot and she
53:06
has no chemistry with him. Do we know why?
53:09
Has she changed her mind? Is there a moment?
53:11
No, this movie doesn't care about things like that, just
53:13
assumes they romantically we like this guy.
53:16
OK, I didn't feel a moment. Personally, her dad was like,
53:19
OK, I'm supportive, do whatever you want.
53:21
Yeah, of course, because you can't have a character.
53:23
He's just gonna be there to forward the movement.
53:25
And then this scene, I hate it. Yelling and then relaying the
53:29
information. Now, you must have recognized
53:30
somebody in this scene. There's a lot of faces.
53:33
I don't. Know why you would assume such a
53:35
thing? I did.
53:37
I my God, I had to dig to find out because he's not credited.
53:40
Sullivan Walker. Great name, right?
53:44
He's the black guy in the subway helping relay in the relaying
53:48
the messages, the white guy. It's the other one.
53:50
Yeah, and I couldn't place him. No picture on IMDb.
53:55
OK Yep. Luckily Chegg PT was there to
53:58
hold my hand and get me to where I needed to go.
54:00
And he played a doctor named James Harmon on the Cosby Show.
54:06
Oh for 4 episodes. OK.
54:08
I swear I've seen him and other stuff but his filmography is
54:12
very short and nothing else clicked.
54:15
Sorry. Was on Fresh Prince of Bel Air
54:16
for one episode but I just feel I saw more.
54:19
Like he really stood out to me. You didn't.
54:21
Nothing. I saw nothing, but I recognized
54:23
that you might recognize. Yeah.
54:24
OK, that's it. That makes sense.
54:26
And I will say, Phil, that I like this scene and not just
54:29
because of Sullivan Walker. OK, but it helps you get
54:31
emotional. I did the music which starts at
54:36
the hotel. The beat.
54:38
That's right. She gets the cab.
54:39
She's on her way. You get it.
54:41
Gets rid of the shoes. Yes.
54:42
Smart move. Yeah, believe me, I know.
54:44
I've heard heels. Halloween and it slowly amps up
54:48
the music. Hmm, perfectly pitched like
54:51
it's. Just And you are, yeah, you
54:52
definitely get affected. By that exactly so I think they
54:55
do a really good job of the manipulation of the music if you
54:59
were as I say when it serves me Yep, I don't mind it.
55:01
Take it in. I'm more with this relationship
55:04
than you are much and we've talked about this several times.
55:07
I think out of sight, which we referenced all the time for
55:10
those who don't know that trunk that's from that movie.
55:13
If you're not with it the rest of the movie is not going to
55:16
bode well with you. I didn't love it but have your
55:20
issues and then stepping on top of it, I thought it was a great
55:25
scene. Yeah, I think.
55:26
Sorry, I thought it was a pretty good scene.
55:30
I hated it and ultimately in the end, I hated the movie.
55:33
I think at the end of the day, I thought it was.
55:36
This is a classic. Poorly paced.
55:38
Anything interesting was so drawn out and dragged out or so
55:43
short in supply. When it did show up, I found no
55:46
momentum with the relationship. I found no momentum with the
55:49
filmmaking, the characters. There's nothing in this movie
55:52
that tells me that this was a cultural phenomenon 40 years
55:55
ago. Like Mad Max, right?
55:57
Like a little bit understand this.
55:59
So maybe it's an Australian film thing for me.
56:01
I don't want to say it too soon, but yeah, this one just failed
56:05
on every level for me, other than obviously Paul Hogan.
56:08
Clearly the charisma is there. Yeah, let's not deny.
56:11
That. But I just don't see the future
56:14
of the legs that this movie had and the cultural impact it had
56:17
it. There's just not enough there
56:18
for me and as a result I don't think I'll ever watch it again.
56:21
Don't really have interest in the sequels either.
56:23
Like it's not anything to propel me forward.
56:25
Yeah, in some instances we've like.
56:27
OK well I didn't like it but I wanna watch the sequel for.
56:30
Whatever reason, like at the end of Mad Max, I like willing to
56:33
give it another go because I want to see how it gets to Fury
56:36
Rd. because we know it's a better movie.
56:38
We just I think fundamentally would have to be.
56:40
Yeah, right. But is this.
56:41
I just think there's nothing of interest.
56:43
I don't wanna see her ever again.
56:44
IMDb says it's a better movie. IMDb is does not say Crocodile 2
56:49
is better is better. No, it's not.
56:51
So yeah, that's my take on it. I just I really felt let down
56:54
overall. Now, David hear it.
56:56
What are your thoughts summarizing?
56:57
Here, I think part of the problem is we came off a really
57:01
strong week, Groundhog Day affair.
57:05
Obviously 93, a little bit later, but, you know, an older
57:08
film. Yeah, as as A and as my wife
57:11
said, classic. Good for its time.
57:14
I don't know which movie she was referring to.
57:16
She did say it, though. She did say it.
57:18
OK. And I called her like, that's
57:19
the worst answer because I used to say it and you changed me.
57:23
I'm a better man because of you, Phil.
57:25
There you go. I said it.
57:26
Fantastic. I'll take it.
57:27
And I also will say that I did not dislike this movie.
57:30
I certainly did not like it as much as Groundhog Day because it
57:34
had so much more going for it with themes, but this was fun.
57:38
It was lighthearted, it aged relatively well for its time, so
57:42
I found some enjoyment out of it.
57:44
He is charismatic. She does sound like Annette
57:47
Benning and you're right, but I don't think I would revisit it.
57:52
I wouldn't go looking if I found.
57:53
A 4K. Upgrade.
57:54
No. Yeah, I like to see that
57:56
alligator in 4K, but I didn't have the issues with the pacing
58:00
like you had. I felt like we spent the right
58:02
amount of time in Australia and then we spent the other half in
58:05
New York like it was 5050. I thought that was good.
58:08
Yeah. So All in all, it's a solid 7,
58:11
solid 7, maybe a little bit less.
58:15
That's high praise of seven if you.
58:16
Really. But like yourself, I don't have
58:18
interest in seeing the sequels. What?
58:21
That was well for me. And also that does say something
58:24
totally. That's enough.
58:26
Like, I'm satisfied with that. One and done.
58:29
I didn't mind the 90 minutes, but I'm not going back.
58:33
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58:36
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run into that's good idea there you go absolutely if you see
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Dead because they've been eaten by a shark.
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thumb on the unlock there, you're good to go.
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Next week, good day.