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The Medical Industrial Complex is Collapsing as EDEN Returns w/ Dr. Carrie Madej · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Sometimes when bad things happen, good things are also happening. In fact, think most of life is like that. You see something very terrible happens, but there's good in it.
• 0:14
  There's a silver lining. And if we look at what's happened with the pandemic and this medical totalitarian system that's trying to exert itself upon the entire population, which seems very bad because it is, but there's been a good side to it, which is that people all over the world in masses have stood up against this, and have said, I'm done with this system. And they've seen through it. They've seen through the brainwashing and the indoctrination of this modern medical industrial complex. And so that right there is leading to two things.
• 0:46
  One is the collapse of this medical industrial complex at the same time as a rebirth of traditional healing. And some might say it's a bringing of Eden back on Earth. And so joining us today to talk about this and fill us all with hope, and also with some good advice is doctor Carrie Medei, someone who I always enjoy having on the show. She has a beautiful perspective on what's happening. She's very grounded spiritually.
• 1:10
  I think it's an important discussion because, especially as we're looking ahead to the next year or so, it's easy to get caught up in the concern, the doom and gloom. But there's actually some really amazing things happening that I think help paint a picture that is very bright, and is not this dystopian Hollywood Blade Runner Hunger Games scenario, but actually something far, far better. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Doctor. Carrie Madae. Doctor.
• 1:36
  Carrie Madae, it is always such a pleasure having you on. Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on again. I enjoy our conversations. We always go down some interesting paths. And so thank you for having me back.
• 1:50
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. And it's interesting looking where we're at because we're entering into 2024. And while I think there's a lot of bad things that will probably happen, there's also a lot of good things that I think are gonna be happening. And it's easy to focus on the the bad stuff. Is there gonna be civil wars?
• 2:08
  Is there gonna be a pandemic? And but there's also so much good happening. And I just felt, you know, kind of stepping into this discussion today, I felt like I really want to talk about the collapse of the modern medical industrial complex. The collapse of this really occult based Rockefeller medical system, which is now most people are realizing is is poisoning us and keeping us sick and taking us further away from God. And it's I think the pandemic was you know, this great initiative for the cabal in in progressing their goals, but it also had the opposite effect of waking so many people up, especially to the corruption of the medical industrial complex.
• 2:52
  And so what I wanna focus on today is the death of that system and the birth of the new system of people learning that God has given us so many things even that will grow in our backyards that can heal us better than this $100,000 treatment from big pharma. And so I just wanted to lay the groundwork and just say, where are your thoughts on this?
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I just agree with everything that you're saying. You know, Being in the medical field, the traditional medical field is trained in osteopathic medicine. It's a little more holistic than the MD, but still walk like a duck, quack like a duck, that kind of thing. Had to do the same drug patterns, the same pharmaceutical, all these expensive tests, watching the bills rise with each patient and knowing that we were making people sicker, not better. And now that's when I started to pull away and do more holistic, integrative things because that's the right thing to do.
• 3:56
  And it's progressed over the years where I realized the answer is more and more simple and that God really has provided everything we need to heal our bodies. And I believe in the Bible and the scriptures and that this world was created for us and that the plants and the herbs and the trees and the water was all created here for us to heal us. And throughout the generations, there have been people that have used these ideas of being more holistic, being more natural to heal people. And I think if anyone does their due diligence and look into that, you'll see that these people were suppressed and sometimes killed because there's no money in natural ways of healing ourselves. But I feel that there is a tide turning.
• 4:45
  I feel that the atmosphere is changing and that the good thing about COVID and the good thing about the pandemic was that it opened up everyone's eyes that the medical system was broken and that these expensive treatments don't work. People were still dying. And so then people started to look for themselves individually and collectively that there's another way. They started to look at things that people have brought up in the past, more natural remedies, energy healing, and seeing that, wow, these things were helping people in the past. Why aren't they being used now?
• 5:21
  And I see that even the people that took these shots, people that I personally know that were so for them, so angry at us that we didn't that we, the others did not take them have humbly said, oh my gosh, I think we were wrong. I think we got tricked. I think we got deceived. I'd say the majority of people. And so that really woke up that large number of our friends and family out there.
• 5:51
  So here we have a large group of us, probably the higher percentage of the world, I'd say, seeing that a massive deceit, massive lies have happened and it's all health related in a health complex, in the medical industrial complex. So they don't trust them. And it's crumbling, it's falling, it's imploding upon itself. So now what do we do? Well, thank goodness there have been always some good scientists and researchers out there and physicians and health practitioners.
• 6:22
  Now slowly they're coming together, and this is great. And so things are starting to come out, some natural remedies, some energy healing remedies. And this year is just an exciting year already because it's just January. However, I've been working with some different people that have been coming up with some lovely things that are really helping and I've used them myself. So I just want to tell people that I feel like this year is a very good year.
• 6:49
  I know there's a lot of things in the news, guys, but as far as health, I see things turning around. I see things that are affordable and very accessible, coming on the forefront that if you want to get better, you can. So this is, I'd say, an exciting year for that.
• 7:08
  Seth Holehouse: And when you talk about this medical system, the the modern industrial complex of the Rockefeller medicine, right, which is this petroleum based pills are shoving down people's throats and, you know, the chemotherapy and everything that they've done. When you say that that that system's imploding or coming apart at the seams, what are some of the indicators that you see of that? Because when you look around and you say turn the TV, and all you're seeing is nonstop advertising from these places, billboards, I mean, it's just like they have unlimited money, which they kind of do. And it feels like that same system, this behemoth is still just trudging on and pushing forward. But what are some indicators that you've seen that would paint a very different picture?
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, you're right. There are people that will continue to utilize that system and they believe in it or they just it takes too much energy to change their mindset, let's say. However, there's a population that's growing in numbers that they're pulling away. So we're seeing more and more people homeschooling their children because they refuse to be part of that system of forced vaccinating their children because they know the dangers of all of that. They're coming together in larger and larger numbers.
• 8:29
  I don't have the percentages, Seth, but I know that there's a large percentage this past year of homeschooled children and it's not going away. It's going to only rise with that. So a lot of that has to do with, of course, it's education, but a lot was started because they did not want anything forced on their children that was from the medical system. I see that people in the natural health care industry more holistic, that is just booming. Normal people, if you just talk to them, friends, family, or people on social media, they're coming up with new things for how to heal themselves or understanding things that have been utilized in the past.
• 9:12
  The RIFE technologies, which is frequency and resonance. These kinds of technologies are coming back right now utilizing just the plants. My goodness. I mean, if you look up on PubMed, it's a research website. And my favorite, what they call weeds, but are really healing plants like milk thistle, holy blessed milk thistle, dandelion.
• 9:35
  These are fantastic. They've been healing people with cancer, detoxing their liver and kidneys. We have it all around us. If we start utilizing these things, we will definitely see health and then also understanding what makes us sick. So people are realizing, Hey, I think that our water is not so healthy that it's in our public water system.
• 9:58
  Oh, hey, maybe the air that we're breathing is not really healthy for us to breathe in. Why is the sky covered with these lines? This is not normal. These aren't fluffy clouds like we're supposed to have. I love that people are thinking now, that critical thinking.
• 10:15
  You're seeing this a lot. So everybody knows. And what I'm seeing too, and I'm sure you are, there is a divide happening, a pulling away, a parallel system happening where we're living alongside of people who don't want to change the system. And then a lot of us are pulling away, pulling away, and we're wanting different kinds of education for the children. We're wanting to take care of our bodies in a different way.
• 10:41
  We're wanting better quality food. We want to have that freedom to think, to have the creative processes, that passion again, to be able to really make this world even better, make the new Eden. Heaven is supposed to come to earth, and I'm seeing that come together. Now, is it everywhere? No.
• 10:59
  But if you find that pocket of people, just stick with them because that's a contagious kind of feeling. So there's definitely a parallel system happening. I feel like it's pulling about parallel realities. We vibrate on different frequencies. I don't know if you want to talk about this.
• 11:19
  It's a little bit
• 11:21
  Seth Holehouse: I'm fascinated with I've studied a lot of water stuff. I've studied
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Well, this is It's
• 11:27
  Seth Holehouse: not woo woo. It's not sorcery. It's not some new agey stuff. It's actually to me, it's actually seeing God's work. It's understanding how we're made and how vibrational frequency is.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: These are things that that
• 11:42
  Seth Holehouse: everybody wants to talk new. So, yeah, please do. Please
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: jump in.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is the essence of what we're talking about. Okay, so let's take water because we are made of mostly water. All life is water. You look for life, you see water. So water is miraculous.
• 11:57
  It is like it holds memory. It can transfer memory or intelligence. It can freeze when it's not supposed to freeze, boil when it's not supposed to boil. It doesn't fit any other substance on earth. Of course, in the Bible, we talk about the three witnesses on earth, which is the spirit, the blood, the water.
• 12:15
  It's amazing. So water can change its crystal and structure. It's the only substance on earth that can do that. It can change it innumerable times. And it's influenced not just by the location, but by its environment, meaning a word or the intention.
• 12:36
  So Doctor. Masura Imoto, he did lots of great research looking at freezing water crystals. What would change the crystalline structure of a water? Very polluted water would be a very distorted structure. There's no symmetry.
• 12:54
  But if you had a beautiful spring, it was healthy, like primary water, we call it crystal structure. Now, let's say you took that polluted water. He said, well, since words have power, intention, prayer, let's see if people speaking over the water, praying over the water or just putting the word, let's say the word love, the word hope, something like that. See what would happen to that water. They would do that, sometimes write the word on the water.
• 13:24
  And then looking at that structure, that crystalline structure as it was being frozen, they would see the distorted structure turn into a very symmetrical, beautiful structure, meaning simply a word, simply someone praying can change a crystal and structure of water. When you change structure, you change function. So think about that. You change structure, you change function, meaning you can take something and it's diseased and you can make it healthy. Did you do it with a drug with a chemical?
• 13:58
  Nope. You did it simply because we are made in the image of our creator. We are divine beings and we just forgot that. So in the word has power. Each word has a frequency.
• 14:11
  The way we say it has a frequency. Our intentions have frequency. So we can change ourselves. We can change others around us. We can change people over a distance as proves how prayer does work over a distance.
• 14:25
  This is amazing to think of, and people need to really see these pictures all the time. I remind myself these pictures that this can happen. So, I also like to remind people about this frequency. Is that water, we can see it's solid like ice. And when something is frozen, it's not moving very much.
• 14:45
  It's slowed down. The frequency slowed down. It's a lower frequency. Now, if we add, if we vibrate it a little bit higher, so you're warming it up, you're vibrating it higher. Now it turns to what we see as a liquid water.
• 14:59
  The water is liquid, right? Okay. So now we're going to vibrate it a little bit higher. We're going add more heat and now it turns into just a mist to steam. So it looks different, right?
• 15:08
  It's still water, still water. So you see it as ice. You see it one way. And as you the frequency goes up, the vibration goes up. You see it a different way.
• 15:18
  As the frequency goes up, the vibration goes up. Now you don't really see it. It's just a mist, but it's still water. Right? So what is the point of that?
• 15:28
  The point is that if we're all water, life is water. But what if we're what if we're living in different frequencies, vibrations? What if we're different vibrations? The the things that are in an ice like state, I'm trying to simplify this ice like state. Couldn't really see that mist, right?
• 15:51
  They don't see each other. They're almost in a different reality. Does that make sense to you at all? Oh, the vibration goes up. The frequency goes up.
• 16:02
  We literally could be in the same space, but we don't see each other. We're not interacting with each other, really. So it's a very simplified way. This is not the way, but it's a very simplified way of me seeing what's happening right now. You're seeing people that unfortunately are staying with the oppressive slave system and they are choosing to stay with that.
• 16:26
  They're choosing to stay with the this programing of being dumbed down, of being poisoned all the time, being told what to do. That's a very low frequency, low vibration. That's our choice. We have free will. But there's all us, right?
• 16:43
  I don't want that. We want to be the divine beings we were always created to be. And so we're going to do things and step forward and plant those seeds and work together. And when we do that, that vibration raises, that frequency raises. And as we do that, we start to now not really be in the same reality.
• 17:04
  This is how I see we pull apart Because we're not really we're really becoming in a way different beings the same, but not the same. That makes sense. And it's proven by science that we only see a tiny bit of our visual spectrum, tiny bit. There's so much more that we cannot see around us. Some people call that the supernatural, right?
• 17:28
  Different realms or dimensions. So I personally believe in angels. I personally believe that there's things around us that we don't see with our human eyes but are still there. Science backs us up. Even spiritual theology backs us up.
• 17:45
  Of course, I believe in the Bible. The Bible says this as well. So there are things. So this even goes into, well, we can definitely be in different realms, dimensions, frequencies, whatever you want to look at it. But I truly believe that at this very moment in time, we are experiencing that separation.
• 18:04
  And if people think, well, this goes against what the Bible says, I actually very much disagree with them. It's the interpretation of what you're looking at. So they say, if you're Christian, people believe in something called this rapture where, oh my goodness, we're going to just flap in the air and be with God before the bad stuff happens. Well, that is I don't see that really in the Bible, but I understand what they're saying. It's the harpazo, which means that it means that the taking up to be in the spirit, to be taken up in the spirit.
• 18:40
  In my interpretation, it's just my interpretation. What if we start to vibrate? We are becoming so close with God, becoming more in that divine image that we become more in the original bodies that Adam and Eve had before the fall. Those biophotonic, those light bodies, those more light bodies, that's being taken up in the spirit, we'd be taken up in the spirit, meaning, Okay, now we're closest with God. And now we're almost we are not almost we are acting in a different state, in a different realm.
• 19:15
  It's like when I don't want to say the same thing, but similar to some of the things in the Bible, like Jesus was resurrected and he came back to kind of say hello back to everybody. Right. He was in a different body. It was in different kind of body, a light body. So I know this is going off in a tangent, but what if we are starting to really manifest that?
• 19:39
  What if with God, we are starting to see what we were always supposed to have with the original Adam and Eve? This is the new eating. This is the heaven coming to earth. And this still goes with the biblical scriptures. It's just a different way of seeing it in that being taken up means we are becoming into those light bodies.
• 19:58
  And in that state, we don't necessarily we're not going to be living in this fallen state. It's a different reality. So this is I'm sure getting into some quantum physics and things like this. So I'm not sure if this is direction I'm going, but I love talking about it.
• 20:19
  Seth Holehouse: Well, it's it's funny because this is where my mind goes with a lot and a lot of just understanding where we're at. And I think it's hard to time this conversation about where the world is without getting into some of these things. And hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver.
• 20:40
  But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey. Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right?
• 20:46
  Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that?
• 21:04
  Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means. Now let's take a look at gold.
• 21:18
  So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about 4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today. What can you buy with $4,000?
• 21:45
  Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich.
• 22:07
  It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around.
• 22:46
  It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies.
• 23:10
  So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. For me, this is what helps me actually have even more faith and have even more trust in God.
• 23:44
  And also just conviction that heaven and hell are real, that God and Satan are real. And and if you look at, you know, there's people have done experience where they've measured the frequency of different emotions. You can find various charts. I I found one while you're talking just to pull up where it talks about this, you know, the the frequency of at the very bottom of this very low frequency, shame, guilt, apathy, grief, fear, desire, anger. And as you get towards the top of that, right, acceptance, reason, love, joy, peace, enlightenment.
• 24:14
  And so to me, this isn't some woo woo stuff. It's kinda like if you look at it and say if you imagine that we're in this realm where we can be pulled into both directions. Right? We can become closer to God or we can become closer to Satan. And if you map out what behavior and emotions take you closer to God or closer to Satan, you can see that, okay, well, Satan, it's desire, lust, anger, fear, greed, jealousy.
• 24:42
  Those are the behavioral traits that actually lower your frequency, take you closer to, in my opinion, take you closer to hell. But if you look at the compassion, altruism, gratitude, kindness, you know, happiness, joy, appreciation, that those are emotions, and those are states of being that I believe take us closer to God. And then so when you look at that, and you look at our lives, it's like, okay, well, maybe if I can live my life in a way where I'm trying to live a life full of gratitude, and kindness, and altruism, that will help take me closer to God. Eventually, once I leave this earth, and you know, I go to heaven, then okay, you're there. But I don't look at it and say that just you kind of act however you are in this world and but if you have faith, you'll go to heaven.
• 25:33
  Like as some simple thing. It's like, no, I think that everything that we do is changing our bodies. It's changing our our energy, like for the better or the worse. And so what also gives me hope and what I'm seeing is, know, you're talking about this this breakaway, these people that are forming this parallel economy. I would say that these same elements of emotion, if we're looking at that scale, I believe there's also that same scale, you could almost map the exact same scale, but call it morality.
• 26:03
  And so morality, you know, indulging in lust, you know, watching pornography, gambling, greed, versus what I would say is representative of an upright morality of of kindness, of giving, of forgiving. And that so these people, I think and it's interesting to look at this is it's not just, I would say, this breakaway in terms of, I don't trust big pharma anymore. The vaccines are bad. I'm gonna look for other ways to heal myself. I think that it's actually much bigger that you have this movement of people that are actually becoming more moral.
• 26:38
  They're rejecting Netflix and QDs, and they're rejecting a lot of the things that I think that before, say ten, fifteen, twenty years ago, we didn't realize we're being subverted and placed into our society to pull us closer to Satan. Because if most of the world just goes along with Satan's agenda and and their whole world becomes Sodom and Gomorrah, and you're having all kinds of, you know, pedophilia and and everything, it's like that's what Satan wants. But I think that people are rejecting that, and I'm seeing a lot of people saying they want to go back to tradition. They want to go back to morality. They want to live as upright people again.
• 27:19
  And to me, that's actually the greatest way that we fight in this battle is that we don't even let Satan sink those hooks of jealousy and desire and greed into us. We remove those hooks. We become free of that, and Satan no longer controls us. And what happens when Satan no longer controls the majority of people on earth? It's like, well, he's he's done.
• 27:40
  And that's what I'm seeing happening, which is really it it's very inspiring, actually.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yes. I always said, it's not gonna be some big adventure invention or one person's gonna save save us. Right? It's going to be those little random acts of kindness that really move what's happening right now, move to be a better place, a better us. And I have to tell people is we need to remember that most important thing is people have been taught that there is nothing more than this physical existence.
• 28:15
  And so I can tell you that everything you look at disagrees with that. But there's something more than this physical existence and near as many different references. I don't care which you look at it as a fact. I'll tell you, I'll ask people, I said, do you believe in demons? Yeah, because they know how awful things are.
• 28:31
  Pedophilia, human trafficking, sacrifice. Yes. They believe in demons. And why isn't the opposite true? Of course, it has to be.
• 28:41
  Right? There has to be good. There has to be angels. People need to start speaking about it more because miracles are real. And I've seen a lot of them, one of the miracles myself.
• 28:54
  And so, we need to start focusing on that. And I always like the tale of the Indian fable or the Indian story about there are two wolves. There's a bad wolf and a good wolf, and they're fighting which one will win. And it's the one you feed. So which one will you feed?
• 29:12
  Will you feed those negative thoughts? And we are all been there where I can do it myself. That fear gets to you panic. Then we have to realize that we're feeding those thoughts and we have to focus on what we do have, the blessings we do have. What is the beautiful thing that's happened, not just today, but in previous in your life?
• 29:29
  Or how can you reach out to someone and thank them or help them out when you can? It's about not just being so individualized, but reaching out because we are all connected. As we become more awakened, we're going to see how connected we really are. Each one of our actions does really affect the whole. So all that being said, what do people actually do that's tangible, that's physical?
• 29:58
  And it's about doing the things that you can. And then let's start with the family unit. Well, children and you and I were talking about this before. We're really against just anything forced on us, our families, which is going to be like the vaccines or any medicine. Well, how do you avoid that?
• 30:16
  Well, if they truly are trying to force you into something in a school system, don't put them in the school system. You homeschool. And it's not as hard as people think. Don't they learn so much more in a smaller amount of time than if they went to school. So it doesn't take as much time as you think.
• 30:32
  With other parents at homeschool, they help each other out. So then it's not overwhelming. It's actually not a big deal. These kids are super smart. And actually, one of my friends, her son had to get some stitches with the hospital.
• 30:46
  I think he's like 13. The questions he was asking the doctors like, what's that suture made out of? These questions and the nurse and the doctor didn't even know what the suture was made out of. But they actually told the parents there and the kid, they're like, You must be homeschooled because he was using critical thinking skills and asking questions, which is a compliment. There's always a way if you look for it.
• 31:14
  So just if you're like, I don't have the money or I don't have the time, this is where we need each other. And there are communities. We're moving to a community that's more like minded like that. And if you're new in a community, just ask somebody else, hey, do you know of other like minded people? This is how we share and we start building these communities and we support one another.
• 31:35
  It doesn't have to be that difficult. And as we go along in these communities, too, we learn about different ways to heal. Water can heal. I've been working with some people about light that is putting a frequency in water. Water can hold that frequency.
• 31:49
  It holds the information and people drinking it actually starts to heal their body. The moment they start drinking the water, isn't that amazing? Just with some information using light to heal the body. We've been able to do all kinds of things with that using pulsed electromagnetic frequency, just simple devices that are putting a certain energy out that's healing, that's a harmonious nature with all life. So instead of all the Wi Fi that comes at us and the five gs towers and radio frequency and all that that's not harmonious with life, well, let's start using things that are harmonious with life.
• 32:30
  And if we start using these things, well, then we don't need to see the doctor. We don't need to have diabetes. We don't need to have osteoporosis. We don't need to cardiac issues. There are things that we can do, and this is exciting to me.
• 32:43
  It is so fascinating that finally these things can come to light. Finally, we can start utilizing things that can be accessible to anybody. So I believe 2024, this is my prediction is that if you want, you will start hearing about some amazing, affordable things that you can do for your health to get healthy. Now, of course, you still have to eat healthy, be active, right? But if you want to, you don't have to be on pharmaceutical drugs.
• 33:12
  This is my prediction for this year coming up.
• 33:14
  Seth Holehouse: And so for people that are watching, and they're, maybe they're on some sort of, you know, heart med or they're just starting to develop this understanding of the medical system and this distrust of big pharma. And they're not sure what to do because maybe they've got a family doctor they've been going to for twenty years that is part of that system and was trying to push the vaccine. And if they go in for an ailment, instead of looking at, okay, what is your diet? How much sun are you getting? They're looking at going in and say, okay, well, you need this prescription and this prescription.
• 33:51
  And that's all that they really do. For that person that's stuck in that situation and looking for the ways to get out of it. What are some simple things that you would tell them? Where should they go? How should they How should they take some actionable steps to change their relationship with with healthcare and health overall?
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: There are things that you can do on your own to get healthy. There's some basic things. I always tell people on my webpage, there's a free downloadable resource and some basic ways to detox that a lot of people find very helpful and that's very affordable. And then also I have a very affordable little three parts course on and more in-depth about detox in the body. Everything's usually poison.
• 34:38
  And then there are products that I use. So that's a start. There are other people that still teach us more natural ways of healing. I'm working with some researchers right now on some products that hopefully will be able to talk about. One's called Masterpiece, which is a marine plasma with some scalar wave that is put into that as well as the zeolite, a perfect size zeolite.
• 35:09
  And that in the early studies, as early studies, it looks like it's able to bind and take out of the human body forever chemicals and plastics and some graphene. So far, it's very promising with something that is very affordable and very easy. So these are the companies I work with. There's LifeWave, another company, David Schmidt, and he's actually working with frequencies in light, and he's putting that frequency into the water and then having the people drink it. The early studies again are exciting.
• 35:42
  It looks like as the people are drinking it, we're looking at these studies that their body is actually able to start being anabolic, meaning healing itself, not like a bodybuilder, but actually healing the tissues with just light. Okay. So these things that are hoping to be released this year, so and I believe Masterpiece is already released to the public. So this is exciting guys. These are the early studies, but there are simple things that you can do.
• 36:09
  Just to tell people like baking soda, it's so simple. Just get some baking soda. Arm and hammer still works. It does not have aluminum in it. If you're still worried about it, you can go to get like in the natural food store.
• 36:20
  But anyway, half to one teaspoon and some water. Drink that every day. Usually you have no acid reflux. Don't need that drug. You don't need any of that.
• 36:29
  If you have allergies, take that allergies, go down. It brings down the inflammatory cascade, joint pain, a little bit too much. You too many sweets. You've got too much yeast in your body. Drink that.
• 36:40
  It kills the yeast, the fungus. I mean, this is baking soda. You put two cups of baking soda with two cups of Epsom salts in a really hot tub, bath water, and you soak for twenty minutes or more if you can tolerate it, pulls out many toxins and poisons, including radiation, because radiation actually is a physical thing in the body. That's amazing. I love detox baths.
• 37:03
  It always works. I feel better after even one of them. Everybody can do that. You can add this is anecdotally just about a half cup of borax. It is a detergent, but it can bind to the fluoride and the chlorine in the water, the bubbled water.
• 37:19
  So you put that in, it binds to that so then you don't worry about any of the toxins in the water. Then you put the Epsom salts and the baking soda. And it also, anecdotally, helps to take out synthetic technology that we worry about. So, this is really exciting that you can just do bath, detox baths. I mean, just that alone can change so many things.
• 37:39
  Drinking baking soda, making your body alkaline because our bodies are like a swimming pool. So if you don't put anything in a swimming pool to keep the pH, what in a day or so, you get all this garbage growing in your pool water. That's what happens to your body. So you're in your acidic, you're growing all this crap in your body. So you don't want to be acidic.
• 37:58
  You want be alkaline in a more alkaline state. So drinking baking soda helps your body to stay that way so that you don't have things that are overgrowing in your body. These are just things that's easy to teach people and I love teaching them that. So and there are other people that teach these similar things. Just those two things, picking it up and integrating them and your family's household can make huge differences.
• 38:25
  We've just been taught the wrong things about our body. Our body can heal it themselves of just about anything. Our bodies are capable of doing that. God made our bodies to do that, but we just forgot how that's possible. And power of the mind is important.
• 38:41
  How we think will either make us sick or make us well. And I believe in the power of prayer, laying on of hands. I've seen many miracles with that. In fact, anytime people need, pray with them even on the phone and try that. It's amazing.
• 38:58
  You can feel the difference even across distance. Pray with people that costs nothing. Take the minute out of your day. Take five minutes and start praying. I've seen miracles happen, many miracles that way.
• 39:12
  People told they're terminal. They're not terminal anymore. People told they're going to be intubated or their heart failing and not intubated, their heart's not failing. So prayers are powerful. Utilize them, the power of your mind.
• 39:25
  If you think you're going to be sick, you think you're going to die, it's likely it's going to happen because you're willing it to happen. If you know that you can be well, and I'm an example of that, I knew that I could get over my injuries. I knew that it was going to happen. I had no doubt in my mind. And that power of your mind can affect everything in your body.
• 39:46
  So don't forget those things.
• 39:50
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• 40:59
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• 41:18
  Because while it's good, and because we're helping people understand the potential harms of it, which is good because it can help people to avoid it. I think it can also have the opposite effect and make people think that because they got it, they're now doomed. And then there's lot of podcasters that talk like that. It's kind of like if you got the if you got the vaccine, you're written off. You're you're a zombie, your DNA is altered, you're no longer human, you're you're a patented property of big pharma.
• 41:46
  And there's a lot of people I think that actually their journey of understanding may have started with the first vaccine, and they're not feeling right, and then researching, and now there are people that are on the front line of of the, you know, Freedom Health movement. And this is something I think it's important for us to talk about because I I think that while it's good for us to understand the mechanisms of the vaccine, and what it does, and the potential harm, and how to, you know, how to reverse that, it's it can cause people to think, oh my gosh. I got this thing. I'm I'm I'm like a ticking time bomb, and my heart's just gonna stop one day. And that that in of itself could cause their heart to stop one day.
• 42:21
  And so I have two questions for you. One is just how to mentally adjust the thinking around the vaccine, especially for people that did get it. And then the second question is, is it something that can be reversed? Is it is it permanent damage to your DNA, you're no longer human? Or are there ways that you're seeing that even people who got the vaccine are able to return their body back to what it was prior?
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: So it's important to know how horrific these shots are, sure. But we need to always remember who and what we are. We are made in the image of our creator and we have we're divine beings. We're not just physical cells in a petri dish. Right.
• 43:06
  So knowing that, in my opinion, nothing synthetic artificial could ever, ever beat out God's original creation. Nothing. Only if we let it with our free will. So no way can anything beat out God's original creation. It's not going to happen.
• 43:28
  You can't beat life. You can't kill what God has created. So you can hurt and we could be co creators and go along with it. Sure. So that being said, yes, it's important to know how evil it is.
• 43:42
  But then what do we do with it? Right? And that's what I like to focus on. I believe that God always provides a way if we ask and we we call out and we pray. And I believe that we need to start knowing its body, mind and spirit.
• 44:00
  And that we're not just physical beings. We're two thirds more, right? Because we have our mind, which is our soul and then our spirit. So that means two thirds is more than one third. So that's why I believe that anything is possible.
• 44:13
  So I always thought the shots could be really damaging to one group. That group was the little babies and children being born. They were always after them. This is why. Because remember, body, mind, and spirit.
• 44:28
  So if these little babies and kids are getting the shots, they don't know who and what they are. They're being indoctrinated by the society that they're not a boy, that they're not a girl, that they're not American, that they're not this or not. They're nothing. So they don't have a sense of identity. Right.
• 44:47
  So when something is artificial in them and the thought comes in them or a programming comes in them, they will accept it as their own. They won't fight it. They'll accept it. So there's a willingness to accept because they don't know anything else. Also, the breakdown of the family unit.
• 45:04
  There's no belonging there. Right. No. Usually in the typical American culture, there's no real teaching about God or spirituality. They don't even have an understanding of that.
• 45:16
  So they're the perfect victim to these shots. And that's who I really worry about. Now, with you and I said, if we got one of these or someone gave it, we didn't know. Well, if we start to get thoughts that are not our own, we're going to know it. We're going to reject it.
• 45:35
  We override that. So this is where this is. And we know that we are your son and I'm a daughter of the true living God. Okay. That's a huge difference in the two groups.
• 45:49
  That's what I worry about these little kids. So I just want to tell people that there's a difference there. So when you pray and you ask for divine help, there's always something that comes along. This is where I started to see, like I told you about these researchers doing the product masterpieces also with the light therapy on the water. It appears these things are helping the people that got all this technology in their body.
• 46:19
  The early studies are exciting. Okay. We know that people are getting sometimes they do chelation, which means taking heavy metals out of their body, high dose vitamin C. But just remember, never lose hope. If you know that you made a mistake, just know that our bodies are made wonderfully and fearfully, that nothing can beat how God has made our body.
• 46:38
  You must believe in that and you trust in that and you pray and miracles do happen and he does provide a way. So I am very, very clear on that. I am worried about, the group I'm worried about are those little babies and children that have been injected and they do not have any understanding of their spiritual nature and they're lost in this system that has been indoctrinating them. And so I hope that all of us pray for them and that we pray for divine intervention for them.
• 47:12
  Seth Holehouse: So ultimately, I mean, what I take from that in my own perspective, too, is that at the end of the day, we battle not against flesh and blood. This is a spiritual battle. And, you know, I've had this thought too. It's like, do you really think that some cocky, arrogant, atheist scientist that makes up some technology in a lab has the power to destroy God's creation at a deep, deep level. And I just don't believe it's possible.
• 47:41
  I think it's only possible if we believe it, because we do have this free will. And if we accept it, and we turn away from God, then I think that's that's where we become vulnerable. So I'd like to ask you a question that is more to say part of an, I guess, a creative exercise of imagination, because I think it's important that we have a vision for the future. And sometimes it's very difficult to form that, especially amidst this onslaught of evil and the people that are even that are researching that it may be even more difficult for them. They understand what the great reset is.
• 48:16
  They understand these plans. But I think there's a reason why almost every movie of the future in Hollywood is dystopian. They don't want us to have some positive vision of the future. And so but when you look forward, let's extrapolate a little bit into the future here, and you look forward and you see where big pharma is now versus a couple years ago, and this massive distrust is breaking away. Well, let's just say twenty years from now.
• 48:42
  What does medicine look like on earth versus right now?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, twenty years from now. There'll be very little other pharmaceutical drugs. We probably we just won't need them. And I won't say everything's bad, guys. I mean, traditional medicine has done some amazing things.
• 49:01
  I mean, let's say trauma. But the problem is we've just abused it and overused it at the expense of human lives because we are the biggest commodity on earth. You guys, what makes the most money is us, our human bodies. We've all been human trafficked. This is the sad thing that none of us want to face, but we need to.
• 49:24
  So either do we go along with it and stay with it or we say no, we have so much power if we come together. We just haven't done it yet. I pray we do. I see very little of that. It's imploding on itself.
• 49:36
  People are understanding that it's not the right way. It's just a chemical witch's brew. I see more and more energy healing happening. I see using light, just like in Genesis, right? Light the water and using what grows around us because people need to know that we are constantly in connection with everything, including the plants around us.
• 50:05
  This is why you should always be barefoot on the grass, touching the soil of your bare hands, get dirty, because what will grow around you will be very beneficial for you because you're exchanging your microbiome DNA genetic information with the soil. So it picks that up. It actually integrates it. And when the plants come up, they will start to produce the compounds that you need. So this is why you're supposed to eat locally.
• 50:32
  Always they produce what you need. So the dandelion in my backyard is not going be the same as your dandelion in your backyard because we're having different needs. Isn't that amazing how we're how we're creating, how the world's created? And also, they know that let's say there's too much arsenic in the area, like one of the many poisons. Do you know that the soil, the microbiome will understand how to process that for you so that it's not toxic anymore?
• 50:58
  This is great. This is why we still keep going on. This is why we keep getting poisoned. But yet we're still here. I mean, yes, we don't feel good.
• 51:04
  But the point is, let's look around to see how the world was actually created for us and start utilizing it in that way. And I see that it's going to be very beneficial. I see that we are going to get sick very, very little. We're going to be able to understand how to handle it on our own. We're going to use all the plants that are growing around us.
• 51:23
  We're going to use the understand how there's energies and it's not new age, you guys, because we are energy. This does not go against the Bible. I'm talking about when you get an EKG or EEG, we're measuring frequency or measuring energy. We have pH, which is measuring voltage in the body. That's what all pH is.
• 51:43
  They didn't want us to know about our electrical nature. Mitochondria are the batteries of our body. We have that. So let's start utilizing that. So there's going to be simple ways that we can do that.
• 51:54
  And then also, most importantly, people are going to have to understand how powerful each one of us is. We have the ability to speak things and it happens. We have the ability to lay on hands, pray, people are healed. We can heal ourselves. That's the most amazing thing.
• 52:12
  I love that. That's coming soon because people are starting to believe it. And we can cast out the demons. Right? We can trample on the snakes and scorpions.
• 52:20
  I believe every word of the Bible. We will be able to see the power of the divinity within us, those who choose to walk with God. I see that in twenty years for sure. I have that great hope. I have that great vision and I hope many will join that.
• 52:40
  Seth Holehouse: I hope so too. Because when I look around this world, see the chemtrails and the deck, once you see it, you see it everywhere. Not as chemtrails, it's just the indoctrination. It just it's a very sick world. And the idea though, that kind of world, it almost reminds me of the opening scenes of Lord of the Rings, right?
• 52:59
  Where they show the Shire. There's these beautiful people living off the land, and there's no chemtrails and no GMO foods and Bill Gates and vaccines. And I've always just you see that scene. It's like, gosh, I would love to live in that world. That's a world that's worth fighting for.
• 53:17
  That's a world that's worth sticking around and dedicating ourselves to bringing into existence. And I think that we're actually nearing that stage. Really do believe that.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: That's still in here. You know, I still I know this is this world right now is not my home, but we can make it our home. And I believe in that. And as long as there's others that believe in that with me. And I just want to remind people that in the Holocaust, I had a family that survived the Holocaust and some that didn't.
• 53:51
  But Corrie ten Boom, some people might be familiar with her. She survived. And many of them that survived tell these stories that they survived because of this. When the Nazi soldiers are coming at them, they're right there. They're going to see them.
• 54:04
  They're gone. Right. They start praying fervently just with everything they have, and they literally could not see them. There are story after story after story of this. I see that many of us.
• 54:18
  What were they doing? They're raising your vibration, becoming one of God. They became not visible to that evil. This is what we got to remember. Together, collectively, we can can start making Eden here on a bringing heaven to earth, planting our own seeds.
• 54:34
  That's what Noah did and his wife. That's what Adam and Eve did. They're tending the gardens. The whole Bible is all about gardening. When Jesus was resurrected, what was the first thing Mary Magdalene thought he was a gardener?
• 54:45
  It's all about gardening, Start planting our own seeds, start making our own Eden, start taking care of it and start getting into that mentality with others. We start to vibrate and we are not seen by the evil anymore. We don't exist with them anymore. They're not there. It's been proven many times this can happen, but I just want to remind people that just like that, it can happen.
• 55:08
  It doesn't have to be a very difficult, arduous process. But to start planting your own seeds every day, start growing something, start connecting with other parents who are like minded like you. Don't put on that programming on the television. Just reject it. The homeschooling, start looking at, if you don't know anything about plants, ask somebody else.
• 55:29
  We all have our skill sets. Building something with your hands, start actually writing something down, take five minutes a day to read, take five minutes to write something down in a journal, take five minutes to teach somebody fifteen minutes, you'll change your life. So if we each put that effort in, I see that really we can make it happen faster than you think. And evil can never overpower the light. It just takes a little light to overcome all the darkness.
• 56:00
  I know that who created us is all and be all and will always be. And so I don't have any fear and I don't have any concern about that. Just how many people will join us how many people will will join. You know, then the heaven heaven comes to earth. We'll see.
• 56:24
  Seth Holehouse: Well, Carrie, before we sign off, I want to bring up your website. One last time. I'll put the link in the description. Just cariemeday.com. And just want to encourage folks to check you out there.
• 56:34
  You have a there's such a wealth of information there that there's ways to follow you to support you to learn. And I just want to thank you again for for being a light, right for being a light and the interviews I do with you always do well. And I go look at the comments and people are always saying, gosh, I feel better after this, which is which is good, because that's a big part of healing is how we feel in our minds. And so you're doing important work. I appreciate you giving me the time to have this discussion.
• 57:02
  And it just it's it's wonderful speaking with you. And thank you so much for what you're doing.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And I always say this with the greatest of love, hope and faith. And I can tell you that that comes from me. That comes from God through me. So he has not forgotten us.
• 57:17
  He has great love for his children.
• 57:20
  Seth Holehouse: Well, you so much. Take care and God bless.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thanks, Seth.
• 57:25
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that interview. I've now got a very special and very short ten minute interview with my good friend Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to have you on as usual.
• 57:35
  How are you doing?
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I'm doing great. It's so good to be with you too.
• 57:39
  Seth Holehouse: Well, we're here we are in 2024. I know last show we did, looking ahead, not a lot of good predictions for 2024. But that's for people that are really, I think, keeping most of their funds in the stock market or in an IRA. But for people that aren't and are looking at other different ways of investing, it may not be bad news. So let's talk about this recent article that you just sent me on gold.
• 58:07
  Right? This is obviously you and I talk about gold and silver a lot, but this is a great zero hedge article. So what's going on here?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: Well, love it that we get to talk about good news for a change. So some of the fundamentals in this, though, are not good. But always look at the solution, not the problem, right? You have to understand the problem to get to a solution. But here's where everything we've been talking about, Seth, for, man, a year allocated to physical assets, gold, silver, something that's tangible, something that's real, something that doesn't have debt, something that's not digital or a piece of paper, right?
• 58:42
  With the new global digital environment that we're going into financially, tangible assets are amazing because they're private still, right? So here's where this Zero Hedge article is really incredible because in like four bullet points just talks about why gold is going to really projected to go through the roof in 2024. So let's just highlight some of those because I get a lot of clients and viewers of your show that ask. So here's where we go. Persistent inflation pressures, which we are going to see this year because eight days ago, the BRICS nations now have six of the nine largest oil producers in the world.
• 59:26
  They're going to de dollarize the world, get rid of the petrodollar. So we don't have built in demand for our currency. So that's going to do what? Force us to print like there's no tomorrow because we still have debt ceiling talks coming up. We've got every funding that you could have, whether it's stimulus, the interest payments on our debt, the Department of Defense, everything, it's going to require money.
• 59:49
  Well, if we don't have built in capital inflow, we're going to have to print it, right? So here's where that's inflation. That's the true definition of inflation. That's going to force central bankers to keep rates elevated. See, I don't care what Janet Yellen, what Jerome Powell say, how, oh, we're pausing interest rates because we won the war on inflation.
• 1:00:12
  In fact, they're going to come down next year. So they might come down once early on because I think they have to for them to save face. But there's no way you can print that much money and not have to raise interest rates or else inflation runs out of control. So what does this do? Stocks, bonds could actually tank, taking down other things around it.
• 1:00:36
  Real estate does bad in a rising interest rate environment. But here's where gold and silver, it becomes really interesting for people to protect, preserve, to grow and to thrive. So it's going to cost the government this year a trillion dollars just to make interest payments on the debt. So a trillion. So because our national debt just grew beyond 34,000,000,000,000.
• 1:01:03
  And so Social Security, Medicare, they're heading towards insolvency, and that's going to represent trillions more in unfunded liabilities, right? Which means they're going to have to print more. There's going to be even more debt. But as we speak, we're going to hit a trillion dollars in interest only payments. Seth, this is disgusting because we only bring in three Well, we bring in 4.7 in federal tax revenues.
• 1:01:32
  So a trillion is more than 20% of everything that we bring in. But a trillion is about $100,000,000,000 more than our entire defense budget. Our defense budget's $890,000,000,000. We're spending more on interest payments than we are defending and protecting our country, for crying out loud. See, this is awful.
• 1:01:52
  Well, now, with Americans living kind of hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck, taxes can even be raised. You can't raise enough taxes to cover these massive obligations. This is the problem. So interest rates are sky high. People aren't spending money.
• 1:02:10
  Tax revenues come down. This is a widening gap. But here's the cool thing. Not only is there a widening gap, there's a widening gap on supply deficits with gold and precious metals across the board. So unlike fiat Federal Reserve notes that they can print out of thin air, precious metals are scarce by nature.
• 1:02:33
  In fact, they face widening supply deficits in 2024 because major gold, silver, cotton or copper, platinum, palladium mines, they're struggling with rising operational costs and degrading reserves. So mining output, because of that, has hit a ceiling. But what hasn't hit a ceiling? The demand for metals, right? So the demand is going up.
• 1:02:57
  The supplies hit a ceiling or coming down as they extinguish inventories. Low supply, high demand, prices go through the roof. And this is exciting because investment demand gold and silver surged during COVID outbreak. It softened a little bit in '23, which gave us these really great prices right now. But even after that, gold was up 17% last year.
• 1:03:27
  But here's where when you look at the ratio between gold and silver, it's at like 80 something to one. It should be at 20 to one. This points, even though gold is poised to do really, really good, silver is poised to outperform even more because it's so undervalued compared to gold and the demand is going through the roof. This is where we can have a smile on our face.
• 1:03:49
  Seth Holehouse: So it's the it's all of these components put together. I mean, because as as we're looking at this, which is what we try to do. Obviously, both of us have a bias towards precious metals. I mean, it's my like, if you if you say, Seth, how are you if you have an extra thousand dollars, what are doing? It's like, oh, I'm putting it into precious metals.
• 1:04:07
  Right? Like, that's just that's because I believe it. I I absolutely do. But to see that it's also reflected in what's happening in the markets and what a lot of these people are actually talking about that it to me, it's I mean, honestly, it's the same reason why if I had some extra money before, I might go buy, you know, 100 rounds of nine millimeter, because I would know that it's gonna be more and more difficult to get this in the future, which it is. And now there's a lot of manufacturing, you know, suppliers talking about how there's gonna be limited amounts of gunpowder.
• 1:04:42
  Right? So there there's certain limitations they're hitting. And so there's expectations that the price of ammo is gonna continue to rise up. So that's what this is. When I look at all the different components, it's just like, ah, okay, this just makes sense.
• 1:04:54
  That's just from the kind of financial perspective. The other part of it is this like, well, the same reason why I'm buying storable food. The same reason why I'm I've got, you know, a generator and and fuel for that is because I'm also looking for ways to off grid. Right? A lot of what Mike Adams talks about off grid your life, off grid money.
• 1:05:14
  You know, precious metals is off grid money. It's money that can't be controlled by the control grid. So not only do you see that in articles like what we've talked about where they're saying, okay, hey, we expect gold to be hit all time highs, which we're we're already seeing that. It's also you add to that the threat of our security, threat of our privacy, the central bank digital currencies, the unified ledger, then trying to take all these assets in this digital system. To me, like, it's like, okay, well, you can't touch this.
• 1:05:43
  You know, maybe you want to go walk my backyard with the metal detector and see where I buried it, perhaps, but that's never gonna happen.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's where protection preservation. Normally, if you want that, you have to settle for low growth. But here's where we have high growth and the safest asset in the world, which is protection and preservation. And it's like, you can't beat that combo. And this is just an amazing time where we can have a smile on our face, even though our freedoms are eroding all around us.
• 1:06:20
  We to ask ourselves this one question. If gold were a stinky asset, why would central banks be buying it by the thousands of tons? Right? They're buying it literally by the thousands of tons. China over 5,000 tons, the European Union over 10,500, the Fed has over 8,500 tons, India, Six Hundred, Russia, a thousand tons.
• 1:06:44
  These are not ounces or pounds. These are tons. So with these smart central bankers who have their own self preservation, first and foremost, they don't care about us, they care about themselves, would they buy gold if they thought it was going to stink and go down? No, they would not, especially not to that magnitude by the thousands of tons. See, we can do exactly what they're doing, Seth, just on a smaller scale because we can buy gold and silver by the ounce.
• 1:07:11
  We don't have to buy it by the ton. This is amazing. Do what they're doing and beat them at their own game. Because when you do what they're doing, they're doing it for their own self preservation. But you know what?
• 1:07:22
  So are we. Because we want to get out of a fiat based currency system. They know that it's probably not all it's cracked up to be. There's going to be a lot of opposition. Why else would they be buying gold by the thousands of tons?
• 1:07:35
  I think there's a currency change coming, and 2024 could be a very pivotal year for all of that because it's a time of change. Presidential election change. You've got war in The Middle East. You've got all this stuff. And during times of fear, people will change and they'll give up their freedoms.
• 1:07:53
  And we're ripe for change. Well, we get to take advantage of it by allocating into gold and silver.
• 1:07:59
  Seth Holehouse: And so I know that a lot of people that are watching the show, they've got IRAs, four zero one k's, they're saying, okay, you know, that's a big tax. I'm not gonna pay the fees for that. So if someone has money sitting in an account like that, how do they what's the process look like?
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Real simply, you just give us a call or go to the landing page that you put together. And we'll ask you a few questions. Now, is where my team kind of takes over, so to speak. We'll cross the Ts, we'll dot the Is, we'll move the assets from your old IRA to the new one that we can allocate into physical metals. Not paper.
• 1:08:38
  It's not a paper proxy. It's not a mutual fund. It's not a share. It's not a certificate. It's physical metals that we store in your IRA.
• 1:08:47
  Wow. So, we handle all of that for you.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: All you have to
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  Speaker 3: do is spend fifteen, twenty minutes and fill out the application. We take care of the rest.
• 1:08:55
  Seth Holehouse: So basically, there's a way to say, transfer a four zero one ks or a portion of it into physical metals that are sitting in a protected vault that that person physically owns, they can go inspect, they can go hold, it's real, it's not some paper. And you can do that the same way that you might tell your advisor that, hey, I want to transfer from this stock into that stock, you can do it without being penalized.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Same way. I mean, to me, it's the same process. It's just a different asset. We're talking about a tangible asset rather than a paper one. But the process, the mechanics are exactly the same.
• 1:09:30
  Now, normal advisors, Schwab, Merrill Lynch, whatever, right? They don't allow for physical holdings of metals. They're paper companies. So you just have to change custodian that will help you do into another IRA custodian that allows for physical holdings of metals. And depositories are, boy, not all created equal.
• 1:09:54
  So I've vetted the ones that we've used. They have to have singular ownership, segregated storage, very safe, unlimited insurance coverage. We've vetted all of that because, I mean, seriously, they have 80 or so depository throughout the country that you could choose from. I would not choose any of them except for one that I have in Texas. Even the state of jurisdiction matters.
• 1:10:18
  Texas is very favorable towards precious metals. A lot of states are not. So we've done all of that. We've done all that homework. I store my clients' assets, gold and silver, at the same place where I have chosen for myself because it's safe, it's secure.
• 1:10:35
  I've known the owners for twenty years. Singular storage, segregated storage, I mean, all of that.
• 1:10:41
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. So folks can go to goldwithseth.com, or they scroll down, they fill out this basic form, or they call (720) 605-3900. as usual, it's good to get these updates from you. I'm optimistic about actually, I'm optimistic in general. I know it's gonna be a really crazy year.
• 1:11:03
  Maybe there's civil war in America in twelve months. I hope not. But I just I'm confident that the good people will get through this. So, again, thank you for coming on. It's always great having you.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: You bet. It's my pleasure.
• 1:11:16
  Seth Holehouse: Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that interview. So perhaps you saw the recent Obama movie on Netflix called Leave the World Behind. And the movie was really built around the premise of a massive cyber attack that shut down communications and really set forth these steps, the dominoes fall to lead towards civil war. Now, you know, I've talked a lot about preparedness.
• 1:11:37
  And it's funny because even though it was a movie that had the Obama's behind it, it was an amazing red pill movie. So if you have friends and family that say, hey, look, you're kind of dumb for prepping so much, or they don't understand. It's actually it does a really good job of showing how vulnerable people are. And so the one of the biggest vulnerabilities that you see in that film, though, is communication and the lack of communication. What happens when your cell phone no longer works, which is a very easy situation to have happen, whether it's a cyber attack or an EMP or any number of things, even natural disasters can cause that.
• 1:12:10
  And so joining us today is Chris Hoare from the satellite phone store to talk through exactly how sat phones work, demystify them, and it's actually they're much more simple and easy than I imagined. So folks, please enjoy this interview with Chris from Satellite Phone Store. So Chris, thank you so much for joining us today. It's great to have you on the show.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: It's a pleasure to be here, mate. What a crazy day today has been.
• 1:12:34
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. So it's interesting. I know that you you know, your a lot of your background relates to communications, especially satellite communications. And we recently at my house, my wife and I, we watched leave the world behind, you know, the new Obama, Michelle produced Netflix movie about basically the end of our communication and this massive, you know, cyber attack on America, which spirals into civil war and all the things that, you know, we spend our days worrying about these days. And I've also talked extensively about preparedness and, you know, EMPs and just the overall, I think things that we'd be looking at in terms of, like, fundamentally making ourselves harder to kill.
• 1:13:19
  Like, that's my objective is like become really hard for the government to get rid of you. Like, that's the goal for surviving. And so Yeah. With your background in satellite communication, satellite phones, etc. How do you how does that play into the overall scenario of just preparedness?
• 1:13:37
  Or how's that how important is that in kind of people's perspective of, okay, what should I be doing?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Well, it's very important. And look, I'm sure, you know, most of viewers who or all the viewers of your show understand that you have to be prepared. And so, typically, people have the food. They have a life straw. They have, you know, the extra ammunition and all of those things, generators, and that's great.
• 1:14:02
  You should have all of that. But if you don't have a way to communicate, I mean, you you're really kind of on your own. And the cell towers, you know, and the cell networks are constantly under attack like all of the infrastructure is, whether it's from Iran, Russia, China, it doesn't matter, or just crazy kids, you know, like in the case in Vegas and the MGM. But they are vulnerable, and they know, this technology is used around the world. People understand how to hack it and how to take it down, and other things can take it down, like an EMP attack, which, as you know, governments are weaponizing this kind of technology, or a solar flare can take out all kinds of satellites and, you know, electronics.
• 1:14:47
  But if the cell towns go down, then, you know, your cell phone has no bars. Everyone understands that. And even on a good day, only 7% of planet Earth is actually covered by cell phone service. So that's not a lot. I mean, we all see these ads on TV for all these dots all over America.
• 1:15:04
  Right? But, look, if you're here in Colorado and you're going out to hike, you park your car, walk a few hundred yards off the road, you have no service. So satellite phones communicate directly with satellites in the sky, so they do not need those towers, and that's the advantage. That's why they work absolutely anywhere, and they'll work no matter what is going on on the ground. And, of course, in this country, we've seen things like hurricanes and terrorist attacks.
• 1:15:33
  You know? When nine eleven happened, a lot of the switching capability in New York was under one of those towers, so that just took out even landlines. You know? But if you're not prepared with independent communications, then you are very much kind of on your own. So, you know, this technology was created back in the late nineties, and back then, these satellite phones were $15,000 or more, and people were paying $20.30 bucks a minute.
• 1:16:00
  I mean, it was a toy for the rich. What we've done at sat123.com is make this available to anyone because we don't think that just the rich should be able to survive, you know, a disaster or an emergency. So we've taken away the cost of these phones, which is still a thousand to $2,000, and we're offering them for free with activation at sat123.com. So this is like, you know, democratizing emergency communications, and it's absolutely vital to have communications, you know, when you have when everything else is down or when we're under attack or whatever it is. Because if you can't communicate, then really you just have knowledge that you have with your team or whatever.
• 1:16:42
  So I I think satcom is vital, you know, in normal times as well as being prepared for an emergency. If you remember that terrible shooting in Las Vegas, you know, I can't remember which hotel it was, but at that music festival, you know, like, the cell towers were still operating, but they can only handle so many calls at one time. So if they got overloaded, then everyone's call gets rejected, And that's, you know, the last time that you don't wanna have, you know, communications, but it happens it happened there. It's happened at other kind of mass casualty events. So, you know, this is life insurance, if you like, that will keep you alive.
• 1:17:23
  You know, regular life insurance sends your wife or family a check when you're gone. I prefer to, like, still be here, and so I think that's just another way to look at it.
• 1:17:33
  Seth Holehouse: And what about privacy? Because one of my concerns is, let's say there's some type of event where, say there's an EMP, and then the government steps in with martial law or who knows what. And I find that in my the scenarios I've read about in my own kind of, you know, imaginations that that would be the time that there's this big disaster where they come in to try to enforce and control everything. And so, you know, some of the books I've read, you know, say like, I think it's one second after different books about kind of EMP scenarios, Ham radios become a big thing. Right?
• 1:18:08
  These little kind of off the grid ways of communicating, which is still trackable. But with satellite phones, are they trackable? Is it something that, you know, you could have some guy in an outpost listening to what you're talking about? Or is it because it's going up to the satellite, is it much more difficult for that?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, it certainly is more difficult. And look, I'm not an engineer, so I can't guarantee this, but just my experience, is like fifteen years in this business, you know, it is certainly much more difficult. When it comes to, tracking, you know, you and I have cell phones, and everyone has cell phones. Right? But the cell, cell phone networks track those and record your, movements via GPS.
• 1:18:50
  Even when you turn your phone off, the there's still another battery in there that keeps the clock going, and that means that, your microphone and camera can be accessed, by the carrier, by bad actors, by whomever. You know? And once you turn your phone back on, all of the traveling around you did when it was off is then transmitted back to, you know, the carrier. So you are always being tracked with your cell phone. And, look, we all have you know, some people don't understand that.
• 1:19:21
  You and I do. And there's really no avoiding it. But a satellite phone, the best you can track someone is within a 50 square mile radius. And I don't know about you, mate, but, you know, I lose my remote control on my couch. You know?
• 1:19:36
  So 50 square miles is a huge area, and it really you know, it's really very useless for someone who's trying to hunt you down.
• 1:19:44
  Seth Holehouse: I see. And what about the Bivy Stix? Because I know I I I like Mike Adams. I know him. I listen to him, and he talks a lot about the Bivy Stix.
• 1:19:52
  So what are those?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: Well, the Bivy Stix is a little device about the size of a pack of cigarettes. It connects to the satellite network, and then a free app on your Android or iPhone connects to the Bivy Stick. And what that all means is if your cell towers go down, you're still gonna be able to use your regular cell phone to send texts or receive texts, no matter what. You won't be able to make phone calls, but you'll be still in communication via the Bivi. And the Bivi, and the Satphone that we're offering today, they all run on the Iridium network, and this is the same network used by the US government and the US military.
• 1:20:32
  So, look, they're not going to take that down. If that goes down, we're in a different, you know, different we have a different problem. But this will work any way you can see the sky. So the Bivi, you turn it on, put it in your pocket, and it'll connect to your phone via Bluetooth, and now you have a backup. And even if you don't have a chip in your phone, it'll still work.
• 1:20:54
  So, you know, that's a it's a great device. It is a little cheaper on the monthly plan. I think it starts around $50.60 bucks, goes up to 80 or something, but that includes the device. And you can see the Bibby at, sat one two three dot com as well as the satellite phone.
• 1:21:12
  Seth Holehouse: I see. Okay. Okay. And we'll put these links in. So these are the different phones.
• 1:21:17
  Now I see. Here's Bivy and fair okay. So Faraday bags. Actually, this is my next question was Faraday bags. So this is, you know, one of the other big things is that if there's an EMP, my guess is that a satellite, you know, sat phone is fried just as much as a laptop or the the computers in my Ram truck.
• 1:21:37
  Right? So it's dead. Absolutely. But Faraday bags will protect. Right?
• 1:21:41
  So is that the whole idea with these is that you have your sat phones, you keep them in a Faraday bag, which protects it from that EMP blaster or solar flare. And that way, regardless of what happens, they're always gonna be there. Is that right?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: That's absolutely correct. And yeah, you know, Faraday bags are essential. You know, we recommend you get a spare cell phone and put it in the bag, you know, along with your satellite phone or what have you, because, you know, typically, you're going to have your cell phone and it's, you know if you're walking around and this happens, a solar flare or whatever it is, that's gonna get fried. But knowing that you have a backup, you know, in your Faraday bag, you know, would, basically enable you to then resume communications when it was over.
• 1:22:23
  Seth Holehouse: And so the other thing with with with so with sat phones is that is it basically I'm used to you know, you grow up and you have a cell phone and you have your network. And it used to be that you're on a landline and there was long distance and everything was kind of based upon area code or wherever you were. Cell phones, you know, it's countrywide, so I can call someone across the country. So with satellite phones, if let's just say you're over in London, is it the same that calling you in London as it would be calling you in Colorado? Or how's that work?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No. It's a great question. And the answer is yes. There's just one area code for these cell phones, and it's the same price to call anywhere.
• 1:23:03
  But look, you can also call regular cell phones or landlines from a cell phone, and vice versa, they can call you. It's not just you have to have another person with another Sat phone to communicate. You know, they can communicate with outgoing or incoming calls and texts, and it's like the same worldwide. So what we do at Sat one two three dot com is we give you a hundred minutes a month, and those minutes can be used to call wherever or whomever. And if you don't use them, you can roll them over.
• 1:23:32
  You know? Because you're not always gonna need to use your Sat phone. But when a disaster happens, right, typically, you're going to have a lot of calls to make, you know, so we don't want you to also get hit with, like, a huge bill just for doing that. If you haven't used it for six months, then you're going to have, like, six hundred minutes, you know, and that's quite substantial. And we don't cut you off regardless.
• 1:23:51
  You know? So we understand that if you're using a Sat phone, there's probably a very good reason.
• 1:23:56
  Seth Holehouse: Now the one question I have is that, obviously, right now, you know, say you have say there's there's a hundred thousand sat, you know, phone users that are on your network or right? And maybe they get used periodically when hiking or whatnot. But if something happens, let's just say there's a grid down scenario or something, Would you would your satellites be able to handle all of those phones or a large amount of them all at once being activated? Because that would be I guess that the majority of them would be used, like, almost instantly in in the event of something like that. So would that overload the system?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: I I think the answer to that overall and and, look, there are exceptions to everything, but is no. Because with an Iridium phone or a Bivi, like, you are typically gonna be have access to three satellites. Right? So and these satellites were built to take a lot more volume. When Motorola put this company together and launched, you know, over 70 satellites, I think that they thought this was gonna be the new cell phone network.
• 1:24:59
  And so, you know, they built it, you know, to be able to handle, you know, a substantial amount of traffic. But, yeah, there's very they only make, like, a hundred thousand or or so of these phones a year. So the whereas they make a million iPhones a day, right, or whatever it is. So there's never been that kind of volume, and we've never heard of someone not being able to make a call because of overload. And, again, look, I mean, it it could happen, I suppose, in theory, maybe, but I think it's highly unlikely given the the low number of phones total and the huge number of satellites that they have.
• 1:25:34
  Seth Holehouse: I see. That makes sense. So how does the pricing work? So I'll I'll pull up the website here. We've got Michigansat123.com.
• 1:25:44
  Easy easy website. How's how's this work?
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: So here we have the IMRSAT phone, which is the other network, and we have a bunch on this page. But the phone is free with activation, so you're looking at normally, a phone that would cost a thousand bucks or more is gonna be free. To get that, you sign up for a fifteen month plan where you're paying $95.99 a month. And so your a hundred minutes of text, you get to use, and if you don't use them, you can roll them over. You can also get US phone numbers, for this.
• 1:26:18
  So if you give it to your friends or colleagues, they can just call what looks like a regular cell phone number, and then that will translate to your cell phone.
• 1:26:28
  Seth Holehouse: I see. So it looks like the most the the packages change based upon how many minutes you want per month. And are there okay. And here you have the Bivvies, which you mentioned. So those are unlimited unlimited satellite texting, $65 a month or 12.
• 1:26:45
  Okay.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, what you have at the top of the page there is one, two, three phones or more. And the price actually goes down. You get the same amount of minutes. But you if you have buy two phones, you're paying slightly less for each contract per month, and you're, you know, sharing the minutes.
• 1:27:04
  So if you and your wife have both have a phone and one of you uses a hundred ninety minutes, the other one uses zero, you're not gonna get an extra bill. But we you know, we're always encouraging people to think about obviously, you think about yourself, but think about your loved ones, your family, your wife, your husband, your kids, you know, and your colleagues. Because in a disaster, you know, if you're not involved, that's great. But if you have your one of your kids who's out in Florida and that was just hit by a hurricane, not knowing if they're okay is, like, extremely painful. Right?
• 1:27:37
  We've all been through this. We don't know if someone's okay. So it's giving you peace of mind to be able to reach out, or they can reach out to you saying, hey. I'm okay. You know, I'll get back in touch when everything's calmed down.
• 1:27:50
  But if they don't have a sat phone and they're in that kind of situation, you know, you're not gonna be able to reach them and vice versa. You know? And and look. I mean, how much money do we spend a month on things? Like, I I worked it out the other day.
• 1:28:02
  Right? My coffee per day is, like, nearly $10 because I have two of them. Over thirty days, that's you know, that adds up. Right? It's way more than the cost of the cell SAT phone contracts.
• 1:28:14
  And this will save your life, and this can get you out of a jam.
• 1:28:18
  Seth Holehouse: It also makes sense to, say, have a a SAT phone for yourself, and maybe you have two kids at college, give them a baby stick. Right? Just in case.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
• 1:28:27
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Okay. Okay. And this is interesting because I, you know, I've so I don't have a sat phone, but I'm gonna actually I'm gonna go sign up for one after this interview because I've listened to Mike Adams talk about them all the time. Go sat 123 sat 123.
• 1:28:40
  And he's a huge, you know, proponent for for SAT phones. And I've thought about it. But I guess in my mind, I thought, oh, they're probably a couple thousand dollars. It's probably expensive. And but, you know, thinking about, okay, so a hundred bucks a month, it's like, well, if I canceled a couple streaming subscriptions and moved some things around, it's not easy to cut or not difficult to come up with that.
• 1:29:00
  But I like how that your the minutes just kind of roll over. So I probably would rarely use it, if not ever. And so say something happens ten months from now, I've got a thousand minutes saved up. It makes a makes a big difference.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No. You're absolutely right. It's like, look, hopefully, you'll never need it, but if you're in a situation where you do and you didn't buy it, like, you're gonna like, we've all been there, you know, with that kind of regret, and these things tend to sell out too. When we we saw the beginning of the Ukraine Russia Conflict, you know, we sold out within a week of everything, and we had to wait, you know, to get more phones in because, again, they just don't make that many of them.
• 1:29:39
  We're one of the biggest, dealers in in The United States, but there's only so many that we get allocated a year. You know? So if things start to get bad, you're gonna have a lot of trouble finding a phone at any price. So being prepared is being prepared in advance, not after the fact.
• 1:29:56
  Seth Holehouse: You know, I bet if you could have worked out a deal with Barack Obama and put a SAT one two three ad at the end of the movie, at the end of the leave the world behind, you guys would have just been like just pumping out phone contracts.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No. Look. I mean, he does a favor making that movie. You know?
• 1:30:11
  But the reality is is, like, what they showed in that movie is clearly very possible. And one of the biggest problems that the people the characters had in the movie was they had no connection to the outside world. So it's like they didn't know what was going on. They didn't know where to go, what to do, you know, because they had no way of reaching out. And the cell towers are gonna be the first thing that get taken out if somebody is aggressively trying to, take us down as a country.
• 1:30:37
  So you wanna make sure that you are not like those characters. They're just wandering, hoping, praying, you know, because you're in the dark, and it looked pretty horrifying at the end there. Of course, we don't know what happened afterwards, but I think nothing good. I don't wanna spoil it for anyone.
• 1:30:52
  Seth Holehouse: Okay. And final question, maybe the most important is that how did you get access to the White House Press Briefing Room? I'm still trying to figure that one out. Was that Obama again? Did he hook hook that up with a phone deal?
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: Can't use any names, but I have friends in low places. What can I say?
• 1:31:09
  Seth Holehouse: Great. Well, Chris, thank you. It's been a pleasure speaking with you. Folks that are watching sat one two three, that's the website, s a t one two three, where you can sign up, and that's it. Tell the man in America
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: Can I get text phone number there, Seth?
• 1:31:24
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Please.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: Of course. I do apologize. It's (941) 955-1020. That's (941) 955-1020. And we're open twenty four hours.
• 1:31:35
  Call us anytime. We have US based customer service, so you'll get all the answers to your need. If you don't know what plan to get or what device to get, give us a call. Go to Sat123.com. We have a lot of videos there to help you make a decision.
• 1:31:47
  Seth Holehouse: Great. Well, Chris, thanks again for coming on. It's been real nice speaking with you, and you've now gained a new customer. I'm going there right now to get my phone.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: Job done. Thanks so much, mate. I appreciate Absolutely.