Latest / The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson / Remebering a Good Man, and a Good Friend & Senator, Lindsey Graham
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- 0:23Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Good Monday morning, and it's nice to have you with
- 0:29Speaker 3: us on the forty seven Morning Update, And we start
- 0:32Speaker 3: with the tragic news Senator Lindsey Graham has passed away.
- 0:37Speaker 3: It was described as a brief and sudden illness, and
- 0:41Speaker 3: now we're being told it was a cardiac arrest. President
- 0:45Speaker 3: shocked as he talked to him just hours before this happened.
- 0:49Speaker 3: And we're gonna have for you exactly what the President
- 0:51Speaker 3: had to say about his dear friend Lindsey Graham. But
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- 2:58Speaker 2: Story number one.
- 3:00Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham is an individual who many people don't realize.
- 3:04Speaker 3: For more than thirty years, he was an active duty
- 3:08Speaker 3: the Air Force, National Guard and the Air Force Reserved.
- 3:11Speaker 3: He actually served his country in uniform ultimately retiring with
- 3:16Speaker 3: the rank of colonel. He joined the United States Air
- 3:19Speaker 3: Force as a judge advocate general attorney, known as Jack.
- 3:23Speaker 3: He also graduated from the University of South Carolina, where
- 3:27Speaker 3: he earned his law degree, and chose a life of service,
- 3:30Speaker 3: as he described instead of taking the easier road. Lindsay
- 3:33Speaker 3: Graham was a guy who said he just was never
- 3:36Speaker 3: going to quit. And by the time he was twenty
- 3:39Speaker 3: one years old, both his parents had passed away. Now
- 3:42Speaker 3: imagine that for a moment, still in college, trying to
- 3:44Speaker 3: figure out your future, and suddenly Lindsay was responsible not
- 3:49Speaker 3: only for yourself, but also for helping raise his younger sister.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Many people would be overwhelmed. Lindsay Graham didn't act like it.
- 4:00Speaker 3: His service, he continued in the military. He saw the
- 4:04Speaker 3: world differently, as he described it, because he'd warned the uniform.
- 4:08Speaker 3: He understood by the way, the cost of war, He
- 4:10Speaker 3: understood sacrifice, He understood what Americans wanted America to look
- 4:15Speaker 3: like and be represented around the globe. And then he
- 4:18Speaker 3: was first elected in office. Well guess what it wasn't
- 4:21Speaker 3: in Washington. It was a South Carolina House of Representatives
- 4:25Speaker 3: then Congress. In nineteen ninety four. That was the Republican
- 4:30Speaker 3: Revolution you may remember, led by Newt Gingrich, and America
- 4:35Speaker 3: at that moment in nineteen ninety four, with the Contract
- 4:37Speaker 3: of America was demanding change. Lindsey Graham quickly developed a
- 4:43Speaker 3: reputation for doing his homework. He wasn't, by the way,
- 4:47Speaker 3: the loudest member in ninety four either. He wasn't chasing
- 4:51Speaker 3: television cameras like so many elected officials do now. He
- 4:54Speaker 3: actually became known as a workhorse, as someone who actually
- 4:57Speaker 3: read the legislation, someone who could actually explain the constitutional
- 5:02Speaker 3: questions because he was a lawyer, someone his colleagues actually
- 5:07Speaker 3: trusted his opinion on legal matters. And then in two
- 5:11Speaker 3: thousand and two, South Carolina they faced a very historic moment.
- 5:16Speaker 3: The legendary centers strom Thurman retired after nearly a half
- 5:20Speaker 3: century in the Senate. Now those many described as it would
- 5:25Speaker 3: be impossible shoes to fill, and South Carolina's placed their
- 5:29Speaker 3: trust in Lindsey Graham. In January of three, he took
- 5:33Speaker 3: the oath of office as a United States Center. It would
- 5:36Speaker 3: become the defining chapter of his storied life. Almost immediately,
- 5:42Speaker 3: national security became his signature issue and You've got to
- 5:45Speaker 3: remember the timing of why that was so important. America
- 5:48Speaker 3: was still living in the shadows of September the eleventh.
- 5:51Speaker 3: He was a man that was in the military. He
- 5:54Speaker 3: was an individual that served his country, and the war
- 5:57Speaker 3: on Terror was dominating Washington and also legislation. Now, Graham
- 6:02Speaker 3: became one of the senates leading voices of defense, intelligence,
- 6:06Speaker 3: and military affairs. Right away. He wasn't interested, by the
- 6:10Speaker 3: way in isolation. He believed America's strength prevented larger conflicts,
- 6:14Speaker 3: and that was his philosophy. Whether you agreed with him
- 6:17Speaker 3: or not, he didn't waiver. It guided him through his
- 6:19Speaker 3: entire time in the Senate. He also became one of
- 6:23Speaker 3: Senator John McCain's closest allies and closest friends. The two
- 6:29Speaker 3: were nearly inseparable on foreign policy. They traveled on Codel's
- 6:34Speaker 3: together around the world. They visited our troops multiple times
- 6:38Speaker 3: in the Middle East, They met with our allies together,
- 6:42Speaker 3: and they warn't against America's enemies as a strong United front.
- 6:47Speaker 3: He also was really good friends with some Democrats. Talk
- 6:50Speaker 3: about that in a moment. Now, if John mccamm was speaking,
- 6:54Speaker 3: by the way about national security, you better believe Lindsey
- 6:58Speaker 3: Graham wasn't far away. One of the things people often
- 7:01Speaker 3: misunderstood about Graham was that he could disagree fiercely without
- 7:05Speaker 3: making it personal. He actually built relationships across the aisle.
- 7:09Speaker 3: He worked with Democrats when he thought it served the country,
- 7:12Speaker 3: and he also fought his own party when he believed
- 7:14Speaker 3: that Republicans were wrong on an issue. Now that independence
- 7:18Speaker 3: frustrated people on both sides of the isle at the time,
- 7:22Speaker 3: he was a man that well literally had a beat
- 7:25Speaker 3: to his own drum, not of the Republican Party in general.
- 7:29Speaker 3: It reflected his belief that elected officials should think for themselves.
- 7:33Speaker 3: He wasn't trying to become a celebrity, even though he
- 7:36Speaker 3: became one. He wasn't trying to become effective. But his
- 7:40Speaker 3: influence grew and so did his responsibilities. While in the Senate,
- 7:44Speaker 3: he got bigger committee assignments because of his understanding of
- 7:48Speaker 3: the laws. Then he started getting more national television appearances.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Then he started getting more foreign policy mentions, Then he
- 7:55Speaker 3: started getting the military briefings, and then his shining moment
- 7:58Speaker 3: many would believe was act Supreme Court confirmations. By the
- 8:03Speaker 3: end of his first decade in the Senate, Lindsey Graham
- 8:05Speaker 3: had become one of the most recognizable Republican voices in America,
- 8:10Speaker 3: not because he sought the fame, but because colleagues increasingly
- 8:13Speaker 3: relied upon him his military experience, his legal background, his
- 8:17Speaker 3: understanding of the constitutional issues, and most importantly, his willingness
- 8:23Speaker 3: to dive into the difficult problems facing America. Lindsey Graham's
- 8:28Speaker 3: willingness to do that made him different. Those are the
- 8:31Speaker 3: qualities that made him one of the Senate's most influential members.
- 8:35Speaker 3: You didn't have to agree with every vote, you didn't
- 8:38Speaker 3: have to support every position, but you had to acknowledge
- 8:41Speaker 3: the seriousness with which he approached the job. And perhaps
- 8:46Speaker 3: that's the greatest lesson from Lindsey Graham's life, especially his
- 8:50Speaker 3: early life. He proved that your job, an adversarial job,
- 8:56Speaker 3: doesn't define you. He believed very much in his word
- 8:59Speaker 3: meaning something. He was a guy that believed much in character.
- 9:02Speaker 3: Much of that came from the military and losing his
- 9:05Speaker 3: parents I didn't stop him growing up in a small town.
- 9:08Speaker 3: That didn't limit him serving food in a family restaurant,
- 9:11Speaker 3: didn't keep him from someday somehow serving the United States Senate.
- 9:16Speaker 3: In many ways, Lindsey Graham was an American story, a
- 9:20Speaker 3: young man from central South Carolina who lost everything early,
- 9:24Speaker 3: worked harder than almost anyone around him, studied harder than
- 9:28Speaker 3: anyone else, served his nation in the uniform, and became
- 9:32Speaker 3: one of the most influential centers of his generation. That,
- 9:36Speaker 3: by the way, is a remarkable life. And by the way,
- 9:39Speaker 3: that's only the first half of the story. Now, President
- 9:45Speaker 3: Donald Trump called in to Meet the Press to talk
- 9:47Speaker 3: about Lindsey Graham now and who he'd become and how
- 9:52Speaker 3: close to a friend he was in an ally, even
- 9:54Speaker 3: though they fought against each other in twenty sixteen for
- 9:57Speaker 3: the presidency. You may not remember this, but lind ran
- 10:00Speaker 3: in that election against Donald Trump. They were competitors that
- 10:05Speaker 3: then became close friends. Many described Lindsay a's a guy
- 10:10Speaker 3: that had unfettered access to not only the President, but
- 10:13Speaker 3: to the White House. The President acknowledging that in his
- 10:16Speaker 3: Meet the Press conversation. He said that not everybody just
- 10:20Speaker 3: gets to come in all the time, and he said
- 10:21Speaker 3: I liked him. He was my friend. He was over
- 10:23Speaker 3: at the White House all the time. We talked about
- 10:26Speaker 3: issues all the time. That is who Lindsey Graham became
- 10:30Speaker 3: to the president. The President of the United States of
- 10:34Speaker 3: America shocked, calling in to Meet the Press talking about
- 10:39Speaker 3: the loss of Lindsey Graham, someone he was close with,
- 10:43Speaker 3: an ally, someone who actually ran against him for president
- 10:46Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. They became dear friends, and they were
- 10:50Speaker 3: working together on the Save Act. And the President had
- 10:54Speaker 3: this to say as he called in to NBC's Meet
- 10:57Speaker 3: the Press, if his.
- 10:59Speaker 5: Public service and his lasting impact on the Senate and
- 11:03Speaker 5: the country, and to start us off and do that.
- 11:06Speaker 5: Joining me now on the phone is President Donald Trump
- 11:10Speaker 5: for reaction to the death of his close friend. President Trump,
- 11:13Speaker 5: thank you for joining us, and my condolences to you.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Well, thank you. He's a tough one to lose. He
- 11:20Speaker 4: was great. He was unique in every way.
- 11:23Speaker 5: Actually he was, mister President. And I know that we
- 11:27Speaker 5: are all just absorbing this news. We are all in shock.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Can you tell us, mister President, how you receive this
- 11:36Speaker 5: news and your immediate gut reaction when you heard it.
- 11:40Speaker 4: So what makes it even stranger is that I got
- 11:42Speaker 4: a call last night sometime, you know, the early evening,
- 11:47Speaker 4: maybe in the sevens, and he called and he said,
- 11:51Speaker 4: we're all set for the Save America Act. He was
- 11:53Speaker 4: pushing the Save America Act like crazy. He got back,
- 11:56Speaker 4: said he just landed from Ukraine. Said, that's a long
- 12:00Speaker 4: trip to mac He said, he sounded a little tired,
- 12:03Speaker 4: but perfect, but a little bit tired. I had a
- 12:05Speaker 4: right to be. And he was a worker. He was
- 12:08Speaker 4: really a worker. But but he sounded great. Actually, but
- 12:12Speaker 4: he was. He was. He actually said he was tired,
- 12:15Speaker 4: but he wanted to pass to Save America Act. And
- 12:18Speaker 4: I said, well, we're going to get it done, Lindsey,
- 12:20Speaker 4: we're going to get it done. I'll see you like soon.
- 12:22Speaker 4: We thought we might even meet today. And then that
- 12:26Speaker 4: was it. And that was, you know, very around the time.
- 12:30Speaker 4: It couldn't have been much longer. It could have been
- 12:32Speaker 4: his last call. I don't know exactly, but I got
- 12:35Speaker 4: a message about one o'clock in the morning from one
- 12:38Speaker 4: of the people at his office that he had passed away.
- 12:41Speaker 4: I said, you got it. I just can't believe it.
- 12:44Speaker 4: He was like a member of the family to me.
- 12:46Speaker 4: It's very tough. Actually, it's amazing, mister he was. He was.
- 12:51Speaker 4: He was such an advocate. He was, you know, if
- 12:53Speaker 4: he if he wanted to get something and you know,
- 12:56Speaker 4: he had a unique ability. He was able to deal
- 12:59Speaker 4: with democrats. If I had a problem, a real problem,
- 13:02Speaker 4: I wouldn't often ask, but if I had a problem
- 13:05Speaker 4: with a Democrat, he could work it out. He was
- 13:08Speaker 4: a great He was a great politician.
- 13:10Speaker 5: Actually, he loved his work. Mister President, I hear you
- 13:17Speaker 5: saying that in this final conversation, that you have emblematic.
- 13:22Speaker 5: He was tireless, but it brought him such joy, didn't.
- 13:26Speaker 4: It was there was nobody like him. He loved being
- 13:30Speaker 4: a politician and he was going to win his election.
- 13:33Speaker 4: He was going to win it big. I endorsed him
- 13:35Speaker 4: very early, and he was going to win it big.
- 13:38Speaker 4: He had it, just had it made, and he just
- 13:42Speaker 4: loved being a politician. I said, the reason I'm endorsing
- 13:45Speaker 4: you is because I got to make sure you win,
- 13:47Speaker 4: because if you didn't win, I don't think you could
- 13:50Speaker 4: handle life. I really don't. He was a man. You know,
- 13:53Speaker 4: there are guys that can lose and they go into
- 13:55Speaker 4: something else. I can't imagine doing anything else. I said,
- 13:59Speaker 4: if you weren't a he was senator, I don't know
- 14:01Speaker 4: if you could live very long, and look what happens.
- 14:03Speaker 4: He was going to have a big victory, and the
- 14:07Speaker 4: people loved him. Everybody loved him. Well, No, he had
- 14:10Speaker 4: some minimum. He was a tough cookie. Don't misunderstand. He
- 14:14Speaker 4: was a tough cookie in many ways. If he wanted
- 14:17Speaker 4: to get something, if he thought he was right, and
- 14:19Speaker 4: he had people against him, he could be very tough. Actually,
- 14:22Speaker 4: but he was a good person.
- 14:24Speaker 5: Mister President is just extraordinary. You just spoke with him
- 14:27Speaker 5: last night his office as he passed away from a
- 14:30Speaker 5: brief and sudden illness. Are you learning any more details
- 14:35Speaker 5: about how and why he may have passed. Did he
- 14:38Speaker 5: tell you anything in that phone call, mister President, about
- 14:40Speaker 5: not feeling well?
- 14:42Speaker 4: No, he said he's a little tired. It was a
- 14:44Speaker 4: long trip, you know, many hours, and he had just
- 14:47Speaker 4: gotten back. And the I mean it must have been
- 14:51Speaker 4: right after that, because I understand the police or whoever
- 14:54Speaker 4: it is, came there at about seven point thirty eight
- 14:59Speaker 4: o'clock in the evening something like that, so somebody notified him.
- 15:03Speaker 4: But no, he felt okay. I mean I actually on
- 15:06Speaker 4: the on the call, he told me christ and he said,
- 15:10Speaker 4: you know, I feel good, but I'm tired. He was fine.
- 15:14Speaker 4: I knew him, I know him well. He would he
- 15:16Speaker 4: would let you know if he wasn't really well. He
- 15:19Speaker 4: had days we did and feel so well, and he'd
- 15:21Speaker 4: let you know about it. But he was a fantastic person.
- 15:24Speaker 4: He was a man who are you going to watch?
- 15:28Speaker 4: It's going to be a very big thing with him.
- 15:30Speaker 4: He's going to be appreciated more now than he was
- 15:33Speaker 4: when he was living, I think.
- 15:36Speaker 5: And just to make that point, I mean, authorities were
- 15:40Speaker 5: called to his home responding to initial reports of a
- 15:44Speaker 5: cardiac arrest, again his office saying a brief and sudden illness.
- 15:50Speaker 5: Do you have any more details?
- 15:52Speaker 4: I would think it would be that because when I
- 15:54Speaker 4: spoke to him, it could have been, you know, minutes before,
- 15:58Speaker 4: based on you know, the the fact that I heard
- 16:01Speaker 4: about the call, whatever time that was, so was shortly before.
- 16:05Speaker 4: But it had to be something like that because he
- 16:07Speaker 4: was other than being tired, he was fine, and so
- 16:10Speaker 4: it had to be something like that. That would just
- 16:13Speaker 4: be a quick end and maybe that's not the worst
- 16:16Speaker 4: way to go, you know, he had the fine moments.
- 16:20Speaker 4: His moment on Brett Kavanaugh was one of the classics,
- 16:23Speaker 4: I think in the history of the Senate. His moment
- 16:27Speaker 4: was literally, I mean literally one of the great classics
- 16:32Speaker 4: of anyone in the Senate when he defended Brett Cavanah
- 16:37Speaker 4: so brilliantly, and Brett might not have made it except
- 16:40Speaker 4: for that they were treating him very unfairly, good man.
- 16:44Speaker 4: They treated him so unfairly, and Lindsey was so angry
- 16:48Speaker 4: at the Senate because of it, and he had really
- 16:51Speaker 4: an emotional moment, and I think that saved Brett Kavanaugh's
- 16:57Speaker 4: Supreme Court you know, ascension. He Lindsay did something that
- 17:05Speaker 4: he was just so angry at the way Brett was
- 17:08Speaker 4: being treated by the Democrats. It was so unfair.
- 17:13Speaker 5: It was I want to ask you more about his legacy.
- 17:15Speaker 4: See Lindsay got that over. Lindsey did a thing there
- 17:19Speaker 4: that was I think nobody else could have done that.
- 17:22Speaker 5: Let me ask you a little bit more about his legacy.
- 17:24Speaker 5: And I know you remember this moment, mister President, back
- 17:27Speaker 5: in twenty fifteen, when he was one of your challengers
- 17:31Speaker 5: on the campaign trail, the two of you facing off
- 17:34Speaker 5: against each other, and then he very quickly became one
- 17:38Speaker 5: of your staunchest allies, mister President, and he and that
- 17:42Speaker 5: pros played golf together frequently on the phone together. What
- 17:46Speaker 5: do you think it is about Senator Graham that allowed
- 17:48Speaker 5: him to make that transition from competitor to ally so
- 17:52Speaker 5: quickly and so forcefully.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Well, I got to know Lindsey during the campaign. I
- 17:59Speaker 4: didn't really know then. I met him once or twice,
- 18:01Speaker 4: but nothing. And I got to know him during the campaign.
- 18:05Speaker 4: He was tough, but he said I'll see you in
- 18:08Speaker 4: South Carolina. You know he was. But when it came
- 18:11Speaker 4: to South Carolina, went South Carolina by a lot, and
- 18:15Speaker 4: I sort of I sort of ran the table on
- 18:17Speaker 4: everybody and it was good and he appreciated it. He
- 18:20Speaker 4: respected it, and we sort of got a little bit friendly,
- 18:24Speaker 4: and just the friendship grew, It just grew. And he
- 18:28Speaker 4: was an amazing advocate. He was I don't know how
- 18:30Speaker 4: you find anybody like him. He was so intent. I
- 18:34Speaker 4: mean he literally called me about the Save America Act.
- 18:38Speaker 4: That's why he's you know, that's where I heard he
- 18:41Speaker 4: think of it. He's traveling for many many hours. That's
- 18:44Speaker 4: a long flight, that's a long trip, and he, you know,
- 18:48Speaker 4: calls me about the Save America Act. He thought we
- 18:52Speaker 4: were going to get it past. You remember the very
- 18:54Speaker 4: big this is a big this is a big blow
- 18:58Speaker 4: to the Save America act.
- 18:59Speaker 5: Let me tell you, do you remember, mister President, what
- 19:01Speaker 5: was the last thing you said to him? What was
- 19:04Speaker 5: the last thing he said to you?
- 19:06Speaker 4: I said, We'll see you soon, come over any time
- 19:09Speaker 4: you want. He came into the White household because I
- 19:11Speaker 4: liked him. I can't do that with everybody, but he
- 19:14Speaker 4: come in a lot. And he was a great like
- 19:17Speaker 4: a gauge at a temperature gauge of the Senate. He
- 19:21Speaker 4: was somebody that most Democrats liked, some didn't, but most
- 19:28Speaker 4: Democrats liked and just about all of the Republicans, like Lindsey.
- 19:33Speaker 4: He got a lot with everybody, and yet he was
- 19:37Speaker 4: He was a tough cookie in a lot of ways,
- 19:38Speaker 4: but he had Honestly, he was a great politician. People
- 19:43Speaker 4: don't realize what a good politician he was. He could
- 19:46Speaker 4: he could go in and get something approved. He would.
- 19:51Speaker 4: He would just get people on his side. He was
- 19:53Speaker 4: really a talented you're not don say you probably never
- 19:56Speaker 4: heard me say that about anybody, because you know there
- 19:59Speaker 4: aren't too many of them. Let me tell you, sometimes
- 20:01Speaker 4: you'll meet somebody that had been there for twenty five
- 20:03Speaker 4: years ahead did they say this? And this man was
- 20:07Speaker 4: a great politician. He really got it to that.
- 20:09Speaker 5: Point, mister President, it's nearly impossible to think about replacing
- 20:13Speaker 5: Senator Lindsey Graham. And yet the governor of the great
- 20:18Speaker 5: state of South Carolina is going to need to appoint
- 20:21Speaker 5: someone on an interim basis. There will also be a
- 20:23Speaker 5: special election called do you have I know it's only ours,
- 20:28Speaker 5: but is there someone you think he should appoint us?
- 20:30Speaker 5: There someone you think he will I have.
- 20:32Speaker 4: Somebody that I think would be great, but I don't
- 20:35Speaker 4: want to say it now because it just, you know,
- 20:37Speaker 4: it's too soon with Lindsey. I don't want to even
- 20:40Speaker 4: talk about anybody. But I do have somebody that I
- 20:43Speaker 4: think is really good. The governor is a good friend
- 20:45Speaker 4: of mine. I've endorsed him, you know, I endorsed him
- 20:48Speaker 4: early on, and he endorsed me right from the beginning,
- 20:51Speaker 4: as a person that never did this before. In twenty sixteen,
- 20:55Speaker 4: he came out and very strongly endorsed me, and then
- 20:57Speaker 4: I made up for it. Somebody from office that I
- 21:01Speaker 4: didn't think was so good moved her over to the
- 21:03Speaker 4: United Nations. Ninety five percent of that of my doing
- 21:07Speaker 4: that because the United Nations yeb was not exactly tough.
- 21:11Speaker 4: It could be very important. But you know she was
- 21:14Speaker 4: okay at it. But I did it because Henry McMaster
- 21:17Speaker 4: was the lieutenant governor and by moving her, I got
- 21:21Speaker 4: myself a great really a great guy. Henry McMaster has
- 21:25Speaker 4: been a really good governor, really good guy. And you
- 21:29Speaker 4: know that that position cleared out and Henry's been a
- 21:32Speaker 4: great governor. You know now he's turned out, but he
- 21:36Speaker 4: he he's going to do the right thing. I think
- 21:38Speaker 4: Henry will be fantastic. Remember he endorsed me out of nowhere.
- 21:42Speaker 4: He just he said I like that guy the best,
- 21:44Speaker 4: and he campaigned for me with his wife, with peg.
- 21:48Speaker 4: He campaigned for me. I'd say, who is that man
- 21:51Speaker 4: that's campaigning all the time. I hardly knew him. They said,
- 21:54Speaker 4: that's the lieutenant governor. So they have a great governor
- 21:58Speaker 4: and he's going to make a good desis. But ultimately
- 22:01Speaker 4: it's going to be an election pretty soon, as I
- 22:03Speaker 4: understand the rules. Every state is different, but ultimately they'll
- 22:07Speaker 4: have an election. Now, some people joining some are good,
- 22:10Speaker 4: some are bad. But I have somebody that I like,
- 22:15Speaker 4: but I'm not going to tell you who now because
- 22:17Speaker 4: it's too soon. All right, fair enough, we was never
- 22:19Speaker 4: glad i'd be in this position. Yeah, I said, I
- 22:22Speaker 4: thought Lindsay was going to be living forever. I never thought.
- 22:25Speaker 4: I never I said, Lindsay, you're going to live forever.
- 22:28Speaker 4: And he was going to have a big victory, you know,
- 22:30Speaker 4: he was. He was scheduled to win by a lot.
- 22:33Speaker 4: He had my support, and he was scheduled he was
- 22:36Speaker 4: going to win by a lot. He was going to
- 22:38Speaker 4: have one of his best elections ever. And now he's
- 22:41Speaker 4: got this terrible well.
- 22:44Speaker 5: I had the great honor of being able to talk
- 22:46Speaker 5: to him a couple of times this week, mister President,
- 22:49Speaker 5: and as you can imagine, we talked about a lot
- 22:51Speaker 5: of foreign policy, We talked about a lot of Iran,
- 22:54Speaker 5: and in honor of him, I want to still have
- 22:56Speaker 5: some of those conversations. Those are the conversations he wanted
- 23:00Speaker 5: to have here this morning, mister President, you obviously launched
- 23:03Speaker 5: a fresh round of strikes overnight. Iron said overnight, the
- 23:07Speaker 5: straight of Warmose is closed. Sentcom came out this morning
- 23:11Speaker 5: and said, the straight of Warmose is open. Which is it,
- 23:14Speaker 5: mister president?
- 23:15Speaker 4: And I don't want to talk about it because I
- 23:17Speaker 4: want to honor the life of Lindsey Graham. So I
- 23:20Speaker 4: don't want to talk about it. I told you that
- 23:22Speaker 4: before the call. Yeah, it's open. We bombed the hell
- 23:26Speaker 4: out of them last night. They're very, very evil and
- 23:31Speaker 4: sick people. We had meetings with them for the last day.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Agreed to a deal yesterday, a perfect deal for US.
- 23:37Speaker 4: No nuclear, no this, no that, no nothing. They've gave
- 23:40Speaker 4: up everything. And then after that they left the room,
- 23:44Speaker 4: and then within an hour they launched a groan, then
- 23:49Speaker 4: a ship. I said, your people are sick. You're sick people,
- 23:54Speaker 4: and so it's one of those things. I don't want
- 23:55Speaker 4: to talk about it.
- 23:56Speaker 5: Finally, before I want to talk about I want.
- 23:58Speaker 4: To talk about one person today, Lindsey Graham.
- 24:01Speaker 5: As we should, mister President. Just finally, before I let
- 24:04Speaker 5: you go, what is the legacy of Senator Lindsey Graham,
- 24:09Speaker 5: Mister President.
- 24:09Speaker 4: He's got so many legacies, but one of the legacies
- 24:12Speaker 4: is a Supreme Court justice who's excellent, named Brett Kavanaugh.
- 24:16Speaker 4: That's one of the legacies. That's a big legacy because
- 24:19Speaker 4: Brett was being treated very unfairly. I don't think he
- 24:22Speaker 4: could have gotten through without Lindsay's classic. I mean, if
- 24:27Speaker 4: you go back into the top ten, I think it
- 24:29Speaker 4: would be a top ten at top five in the
- 24:31Speaker 4: history of the Senate. The emotion, the anger, the love,
- 24:37Speaker 4: the whole thing, everything was in that. I called him up.
- 24:39Speaker 4: I said, that's one of the great classics of all times.
- 24:42Speaker 4: He was a great politician, he really was. He got
- 24:45Speaker 4: along with a lot of people that you wouldn't think of.
- 24:49Speaker 4: He was somebody that loved our country and he fought
- 24:52Speaker 4: very hard for the country. And I know he was
- 24:54Speaker 4: going to do your show today. He told me I'm
- 24:56Speaker 4: doing Meet the Press. Can you believe it? He said, here,
- 24:59Speaker 4: I am. Do we meet the press for him? But
- 25:03Speaker 4: he told me last night he was doing Meet the Press,
- 25:05Speaker 4: you know. But I said, just relax and take it easy, lids.
- 25:10Speaker 4: He just got back from a long trip, but he
- 25:13Speaker 4: was I thought he was just gonna live forever. And
- 25:17Speaker 4: it didn't work out that way. I said, we'll see
- 25:20Speaker 4: you soon. Come over anytime you want. He came into
- 25:23Speaker 4: the White House walkers. I liked him. I can't do
- 25:26Speaker 4: that with everybody, but he come in a lot, and
- 25:29Speaker 4: he was a great Like a gauge at a temperature
- 25:32Speaker 4: gauge of the Senate. He was somebody that most Democrats liked,
- 25:39Speaker 4: some didn't but most Democrats liked and just about all
- 25:45Speaker 4: of the Republicans like Lindsey. He got a little with everybody.
- 25:49Speaker 3: It's truly incredible to think that Lindsey Graham was just
- 25:53Speaker 3: in Ukraine. He was fighting to get the Save America
- 25:58Speaker 3: Act pass. He was planning on spending time with the
- 26:02Speaker 3: President hours after they spoke to talk about how to
- 26:06Speaker 3: get the Save America Act passed. And now Lindsey Graham
- 26:09Speaker 3: is no longer with us. Our thoughts and prayers with
- 26:13Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham's family and friends. America has lost a great patriot,
- 26:18Speaker 3: that is for sure.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update
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