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INTERVIEW: Joseph Sikora, Isaac Keys and Kris D. Lofton On Continuing The 'Power' Story, 50 Cent Loyalty + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day, a weak up, the Breakfast Club finish for
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  Speaker 1: y'all done.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody is dj n V just hilarious. Charlamagne the
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  Speaker 2: guy we are the Breakfast Club. Laurla Roses here as well.
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  Speaker 2: We got some special guests.
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  Speaker 3: In the building.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, you got Chris Lofton, we got Isaac Keys,
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  Speaker 2: and we got Joseph Sicar.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: Fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: You saw that the first episode that drafts us heavy
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  Speaker 5: last week. Guess right, set it up for the rest.
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  Speaker 4: Of the season. It's going to be fire season.
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  Speaker 6: How do y'all approach doing a final season? How does
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  Speaker 6: that even make y'all feel? Is it bittersweet?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 7: Is how do you approach it?
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  Speaker 8: I think you like you just said a bittersweet, But
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  Speaker 8: you know, I think once we know it's the final season,
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  Speaker 8: I think it makes us to go a lot harder,
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  Speaker 8: you know what I mean, like make sure we make
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  Speaker 8: the scenes a little bit more intense. I think the
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  Speaker 8: writing room did the same thing. Is just making sure
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  Speaker 8: that every episode had a main factor to it. You know,
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  Speaker 8: it's actors, you know, like we're gonna put our best
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  Speaker 8: foot forward, and I think we did a great job
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  Speaker 8: doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it always that feeling like the last show will
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  Speaker 2: be so amazing, but like, yeah, we just can't end
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  Speaker 2: like that. We gotta do another one or another one.
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  Speaker 2: Is that is that everal feeling all you're like now
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  Speaker 2: as a rep?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think that Gary and I just wanted to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that we gave Chicago Chicago's do. A big
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  Speaker 5: thing was is that I didn't produce the first season,
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  Speaker 5: just the second and the third season. And a big
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  Speaker 5: thing for me was getting Chicago better, you know, a
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  Speaker 5: little bit more realistic. Like even the Power Show is
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  Speaker 5: kind of like New York adjacent, but we wanted to
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  Speaker 5: be Chicago adjacent, but it's like it's a real place.
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  Speaker 5: We wanted to show the diversity within the diversity, Like
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  Speaker 5: I think it was kind of like like a globular
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  Speaker 5: South side of Chicago, a globular West side and that
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  Speaker 5: I just mean that there was no specificity or details,
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  Speaker 5: and we do a lot more detail oriented stuff in
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  Speaker 5: the third season, and I think that the city is
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  Speaker 5: really going to bless this show for this final season.
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  Speaker 9: What did you do to do? What was your research
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  Speaker 9: like leaving this well.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean I moved I moved to
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  Speaker 5: New York twenty six years ago. So it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I went back early, and I met with cops and
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  Speaker 5: robbers and asked and learned more about the city, because
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  Speaker 5: when I was there, there was really it was really
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  Speaker 5: a city.
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  Speaker 4: Of gang nations.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there was folks and people and and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of things that were the rules, that were street
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  Speaker 5: rules that were followed. And now with the emergence of
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  Speaker 5: kind of like all these renegade gangs and gangs within
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  Speaker 5: that used to be nations that kind of went against
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  Speaker 5: each other, where would the pipeline be coming from? How
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  Speaker 5: would Tommy Egan survive in this? Who would want to
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  Speaker 5: just make the money and who would just want to
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  Speaker 5: see him dead? And I think that we do a
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  Speaker 5: lot of responsible storytelling in like there's a million people
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  Speaker 5: going at each other in on the south side and
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  Speaker 5: on the west side, and where the distribution comes from,
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  Speaker 5: and some of the cartels that would really truly exist.
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  Speaker 4: That mimic the cartels in real life. That's what we did.
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  Speaker 10: Were there any things in your research trying to get
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  Speaker 10: it so real where you were like, nah, we don't
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  Speaker 10: want to touch this just because of what may actively
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  Speaker 10: be happen or just because his history wise, you just
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  Speaker 10: don't want to.
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  Speaker 9: You don't want to Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well you know, yeah, I mean Chris and Ira bo
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  Speaker 5: from Chicago, and there's definitely you know, I mean it's
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  Speaker 5: not that I'm this age, this old. It's like in
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  Speaker 5: my thirties and forties, even going back, I mean I
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  Speaker 5: remember it'd be like, you know, you don't want people
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  Speaker 5: from the past popping up and being like yo, man,
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  Speaker 5: so how you why did you put it like that?
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  Speaker 4: Or why did you do this like this?
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  Speaker 5: And so you do there is kind of you know,
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  Speaker 5: it's it's adjacent, but it but it mimics the real life.
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  Speaker 5: It's like people if you know, you know style and
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of wink Wick non nods
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  Speaker 5: to to real life stuff going in there.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean you want to be careful, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Tommy says an interesting tags Joseph, like, you know, he's
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  Speaker 6: always either chasing control or power or loyalty or revenge.
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  Speaker 6: Like what what's driving him this season?
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  Speaker 5: Man, that's a great question. A lot I think a
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  Speaker 5: lot of it is revenge and kind of this this
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  Speaker 5: uh this hunger for power and how that that the power?
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  Speaker 5: You know they say power corrupts of complete power, corrupts completely.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely absolute power collapse. Absolutely. I know it's always just.
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  Speaker 5: A little smarter than me, but that's that's what it is.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that again, it's it's like can you
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  Speaker 5: have it all? And that's that's the question, because Tommy
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  Speaker 5: is going for it all this time and is he
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  Speaker 5: going to sacrifice loyalty with Diamond? Is he gonna is
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  Speaker 5: he gonna do backhanded deals with Jennard who is a
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  Speaker 5: backhanded deal master? But yeah, so it's a really exciting season.
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  Speaker 5: Gary Lennon again, our showrunner in the whole writing room
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  Speaker 5: did a fantastic job. I'm so proud of them, and
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  Speaker 5: I think the fans are.
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  Speaker 4: Going to be really happy.
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  Speaker 11: For sure.
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  Speaker 6: I always feel like Diamond's trying to move righteous in
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  Speaker 6: a dirty world.
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  Speaker 11: I agree, I'm doing a great job man.
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  Speaker 8: Trying to portray I think you know it is like
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  Speaker 8: you just said, like you can't it's not moral values
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  Speaker 8: too much in the street now, that's the street codes.
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  Speaker 8: You try to go buy those things, but those more
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  Speaker 8: than values to get you killed. And he was trying
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  Speaker 8: to play both sides for so long. And the thing
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  Speaker 8: now is you started to see he's starting to like
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  Speaker 8: he's choosing the side he's both feed in, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Now he's actually kind of looking at at Tommy like
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  Speaker 8: while you while you're in love, you know, looking at
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  Speaker 8: his brother Jennar, because he wants that brother relationship, I believe,
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  Speaker 8: But at the same time that's gonna it could be
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  Speaker 8: his downfall. I mean, it's all about relationships and alliances
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  Speaker 8: right now, and how you choose and what side you're
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  Speaker 8: gonna choose to go on. And I think Domina's in
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  Speaker 8: the calling that little Quandra right now, you.
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  Speaker 10: Guys relationship, I was gonna say, Diamond and Tommy, Joseph Isaac,
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  Speaker 10: you guys relationship in the new season kind of mimics
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  Speaker 10: what the relationship was with Ghosts.
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  Speaker 9: And Tommy a bit in the reverse.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, And it's weird because it's like, now you're in
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  Speaker 10: that power seat, no pun intendent, but now you're in
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  Speaker 10: a driver's seat, right and you're able to like choose
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  Speaker 10: what you say what you don't say, and you're kind
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  Speaker 10: of like controlling him. Was that purposely done for the
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  Speaker 10: fans who've been following all the shows to kind of
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  Speaker 10: put that together?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 5: But I also love how it mimics just like that
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  Speaker 5: hurt people, hurt people and if you know, you kind
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  Speaker 5: of follow the faults of your father or.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever that expression.
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  Speaker 5: Charla Mane will correct me, but there, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: sins of the father. It's like there's there is there
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  Speaker 5: is this kind of reverseness that's happening too, And we'll
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  Speaker 5: see what happens to Tommy, because ultimately, what happened to
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  Speaker 5: ghosts so you know, you gotta see what happened.
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  Speaker 12: Definitely, there was a moment in the first episode where
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  Speaker 12: there was that when you came to talk to him
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  Speaker 12: in the warehouse.
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  Speaker 7: I felt like you turned into ghost in that moment, and.
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  Speaker 4: But Tommy checked himself too.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, but I felt like ghost would have did that
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  Speaker 12: to you. It was almost like reverse psychology, like you
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  Speaker 12: were just telling them what you know he needed hard.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I felt like I didn't even know you thought
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  Speaker 10: that you were checking yourself in that moment.
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  Speaker 9: And it's hard to talk about, but.
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  Speaker 4: It was real.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think Tommy is an honest character in
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  Speaker 5: the way when he's like, yo, man, I should have
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  Speaker 5: told you everything. I should have done that, but it's
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  Speaker 5: timely going to do it again. That's the that's the thing. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: it's like it was smart. It's like kind of magniplance.
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  Speaker 8: He knew how to he needed, knew how to dob
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  Speaker 8: like minimize the situation at the time because that felt
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  Speaker 8: diamonds coming out. And I think that was a different
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  Speaker 8: level of seeing Tommy, you know, and Joseph play that.
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  Speaker 8: So you know, yeah, I thought it was. It's a
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  Speaker 8: great thing because it was even hard for me as
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  Speaker 8: a character, like they like, no bring it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: y'all want me to bring it, you knowing like that
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  Speaker 8: no bringing And it's starting to it starts to build
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  Speaker 8: with the character.
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  Speaker 6: Chris, how do you see Jenaud did I see people
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  Speaker 6: call him the smart villains and people call him a
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  Speaker 6: monster as he just a man trying to out hustle
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  Speaker 6: a system that's against against him.
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  Speaker 12: Man, I think Jannard is misunderstood because honestly, Isaac hate
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  Speaker 12: when I go off into this tangent, but I honestly
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  Speaker 12: feel like nobody's looking at it the right way. I
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  Speaker 12: feel like, cause I'm actually from Chicago, I try to
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  Speaker 12: implement a lot of what I know the people are
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  Speaker 12: gonna be watching this saying like, nah, that ain't that
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  Speaker 12: ain't how we were doing in Chicago. Y'all really gonna
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  Speaker 12: let this white boy come up in here and do that?
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  Speaker 12: So to me, I feel like I'm the voice of
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  Speaker 12: the fans. So to me, I look at Ginnard as
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  Speaker 12: to me, the only one that got some sense for real,
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  Speaker 12: Because why I'm supposed to not know anything about what
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  Speaker 12: Tommy was doing those six years on power, I'm supposed
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  Speaker 12: to not know that. To me, this is just a
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  Speaker 12: white man in Chicago who may or may not be
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  Speaker 12: the police. Nobody knows, Like, why are we all so
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  Speaker 12: trusting in him?
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  Speaker 7: Like nobody?
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  Speaker 12: And then with my brother, I'm like, Okay, you were
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  Speaker 12: in prison. I heard you like to cut hair in jail.
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  Speaker 12: That's what you was in there doing, right, Bought you
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  Speaker 12: a barbershop, Put you up. You're comfortable, You got something
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  Speaker 12: to do. Stay out the way. You're on parole.
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  Speaker 11: You hot.
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  Speaker 12: You're not supposed to be touching the streets. You're gonna
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  Speaker 12: mess up the whole organization. If you get caught, you're
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  Speaker 12: gonna blow it all up. So I'll handle it, talk
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  Speaker 12: to you, will deliberate, will be partners, brothers.
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  Speaker 7: You know that was my goal. My dream didn't work.
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  Speaker 4: Out like that.
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  Speaker 2: Is that difficult to make it make sense? Because what
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  Speaker 2: you just said is I have to make it me.
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  Speaker 7: I had to make it make sense because you know,
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  Speaker 7: we look at.
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  Speaker 3: Him from we understand it. But this is a new series.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, to me trying to make it make sense.
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  Speaker 12: I did create that backstory, I said with I've remember
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  Speaker 12: I told Joseph Isaac and with Gary lenn and our showrunner.
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  Speaker 12: I created a whole backstory in my head to make
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  Speaker 12: some of this makes sense. Because obviously I would never
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  Speaker 12: go against my brother trying to kill my brother.
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  Speaker 7: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 12: But I tried to make it make sense. To Jannar,
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  Speaker 12: It's like, Okay, we talking about millions of dollars. This
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  Speaker 12: organization CBR is supposed to be worth millions of dollars,
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  Speaker 12: And if he's been in prison for fifteen years, that
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  Speaker 12: means I kind of know more life without him than
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  Speaker 12: with him. And now if we add millions of dollars
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  Speaker 12: into the mix and some new person that nobody knows
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  Speaker 12: who's white, how about I kill.
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  Speaker 7: Both of you?
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  Speaker 12: Right? How about I just killed both of you. You You
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  Speaker 12: ain't even been here for fifteen years. Anyway I could
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  Speaker 12: do without you. You know, so it's like I don't understand.
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  Speaker 12: Like so that's how I had to convince myself. And
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  Speaker 12: sometimes I get too invested in it and I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 12: you know what, get to invest I get to invest
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  Speaker 12: in sometimes and I'll be like, no, this is wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody gets you.
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  Speaker 9: That across on screen though.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like on screen you're like the little brother
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  Speaker 10: that's like, no, I can do this, listen to me,
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  Speaker 10: Listen to me.
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  Speaker 9: But then you be messing up and then you gotta
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  Speaker 9: call it.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you me up.
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  Speaker 9: That's what a little brother.
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  Speaker 4: Thing though, what it's people?
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  Speaker 7: I mean in New York, I told them.
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  Speaker 9: That I was gonna say.
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  Speaker 10: And speaking of the brother dynamic, you guys dynamic is
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  Speaker 10: kind of like the same but a bit different in
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  Speaker 10: this new season because you're kind of making your own
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  Speaker 10: moves and you got your girl and she's you know,
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  Speaker 10: helping you a bit more. You trusting them a little
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  Speaker 10: bit more, but you're not. At the same time, what
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  Speaker 10: do you guys want your relationship to say to people
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  Speaker 10: in a regular world about brother relationships?
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  Speaker 9: Big brother little brother relationships. People that don't sell drugs or.
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  Speaker 12: They do, right, I would personally, I would probably say
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  Speaker 12: like forgiveness could probably be a thing, and love Trump's
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  Speaker 12: all and blood is definitely thinking the water. I think
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  Speaker 12: I would want people to like take that from it,
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  Speaker 12: like blood is truly thinking the water.
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  Speaker 7: And your family.
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  Speaker 12: I feel like the only people closest to you can
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  Speaker 12: hurt you, because if you don't care about somebody, they
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  Speaker 12: can't hurt your feelings. They can't they can't betray you.
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  Speaker 12: You know, it has to come from somebody you love.
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  Speaker 12: So I feel like learning to forgive and learning that
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  Speaker 12: family Trump's all is something that I would want people
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  Speaker 12: to know.
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  Speaker 4: But blood is finite. Water is infinite, you know there's.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think water is going to make you survive
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  Speaker 5: longer than blood. You drink that a little bit, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. The French soldiers with the Russian horses,
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  Speaker 5: but the life giving the war.
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  Speaker 11: Man you take it to war. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 11: it's it's real life.
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  Speaker 8: Like you know, we all have family members that we
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  Speaker 8: necessarily don't get along, but we still kind of love them.
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  Speaker 8: But we may have to keep it from afar, but
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  Speaker 8: we should try to figure them out. I think it's
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  Speaker 8: really deep about the relationships. I think the whole show
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  Speaker 8: really dives into how the relationship and the toxicity of it,
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  Speaker 8: you know, like you know, like you know, really all
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  Speaker 8: just communicate if you just communicate with the person, if
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  Speaker 8: his brother, if Dime just with the gave Gennard a hook,
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  Speaker 8: you know, another hug or sometimes he might have made
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  Speaker 8: him feel a little better or just talked about it,
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  Speaker 8: like how do you gonna kill your brother? Like it's
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  Speaker 8: the deepness and the deafiness of what you're willing to
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  Speaker 8: lose and sacrifice for what you want to kind of
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  Speaker 8: mold you want and then how does that align in
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  Speaker 8: your life? Like to him killing his brother, that wasn't
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  Speaker 8: nothing for him some people that's something hard to do.
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  Speaker 8: We still get on the streets all the time like
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  Speaker 8: why why you don't kill you? Why you don't kill
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  Speaker 8: your brother? Why you don't you know, unlive your brother.
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  Speaker 8: It's like can you do that? Would you be able
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  Speaker 8: to do in the world? So that tussle, I think
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  Speaker 8: is just amazing to be the show, the relationship to it.
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  Speaker 6: You sound like saying this man just feel motivational.
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  Speaker 8: For some reason.
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  Speaker 6: Sometimes what does redemption look like for Diamond? Like now
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  Speaker 6: that the streets, you know, keep pulling him back.
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  Speaker 8: I think Ultimately, what Diamond wants he wants that be
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  Speaker 8: able to make this money, have power, but he doesn't
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  Speaker 8: want all the violence and stuff to go along with it.
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  Speaker 8: At some point, like if it was the best world,
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  Speaker 8: the coalition, everybody working together, you know, everybody's making money.
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  Speaker 8: Let's just do that and be cool, you know, And
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  Speaker 8: I think that, yeah, and I think but it's like,
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  Speaker 8: you know, when you see the character of detimed character
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  Speaker 8: coming with Joseph play so well, it's like, na, we
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  Speaker 8: want more than that, we want more of that. So
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  Speaker 8: he's still got to make his moves and make his moves,
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  Speaker 8: you know, in align with how he wants to move,
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  Speaker 8: so that somehow kind of creates that friction between everyone
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  Speaker 8: in a sense because there's so many players in this.
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  Speaker 8: You know, we still have the little Latin of the
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  Speaker 8: cartel side and how the control that they have. So
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  Speaker 8: now we're trying to you know, I think diamonds redemptious.
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  Speaker 8: He really just wanted to He wants to be there,
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  Speaker 8: but but you know, it ain't gonna work the way
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  Speaker 8: he wants it to work, and that's how it works.
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  Speaker 10: You do you think the world will ever look at
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  Speaker 10: the game organization as like anything for anything righteous they've
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  Speaker 10: ever done. I know with BMF fifty also try to
• 12:42
  Speaker 10: talk about the family union and stuff like that. And
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  Speaker 10: it's very prevalent that you're that character in this show.
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  Speaker 10: But people don't see that. They only say why would
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  Speaker 10: you guys be in a show that showcases all these things.
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure you get that question on the time. Do
• 12:52
  Speaker 9: you think the world will ever say?
• 12:53
  Speaker 10: But wait, there was a righteous component to this, There
• 12:55
  Speaker 10: was a family aspect, yes.
• 12:58
  Speaker 8: And I think even outside the show, we make sure
• 13:00
  Speaker 8: we do a lot of stuff in the community. I
• 13:01
  Speaker 8: make sure we talking speaking engagements and talking to make
• 13:03
  Speaker 8: sure we know this is entertainment. It's telling the story,
• 13:06
  Speaker 8: you know, a story of some made up characters, of
• 13:08
  Speaker 8: some made up characters that you know, how they how
• 13:11
  Speaker 8: they move in the streets, and how their life and
• 13:12
  Speaker 8: how they find the family dynamics happen. And I think
• 13:15
  Speaker 8: that also by showing that in Chicago, with all the
• 13:17
  Speaker 8: things that's going on with the city of Chicago, we're
• 13:19
  Speaker 8: able to show the entertainment part of it, but we're
• 13:21
  Speaker 8: also able to talk touch on some of the things
• 13:23
  Speaker 8: of the diversity of the city and how the city
• 13:25
  Speaker 8: is made up. In the history and the architecture, and
• 13:27
  Speaker 8: and just kind of giving some more light on the
• 13:29
  Speaker 8: city in that way as well too. But I think
• 13:31
  Speaker 8: it's very important for people to know even as we talk,
• 13:33
  Speaker 8: is to make sure that we know that this is
• 13:35
  Speaker 8: a story. It's a TV series, it's not real life.
• 13:38
  Speaker 8: It's the Power Universe. We know that's not you know,
• 13:41
  Speaker 8: real life. It's so many things that happened that must
• 13:42
  Speaker 8: think pulls up anywhere and no parking tickets.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: I will say that that these stories are might not
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: be based on somebody's real life, but they are lives
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: that's happening out there.
• 13:55
  Speaker 11: Every time.
• 13:57
  Speaker 7: Me and my brother.
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: That's how it was, you mean. And that's why I
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: think stories mean so much, you know.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: And a lot of times, like she said, a lot
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: of people feel like, oh, well, they're idolizing or they're
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: making it seem like this, But for a lot of times,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: that's what we grew up seeing, right, We grew up
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: seeing the local drug dealers, and you always wanted to
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: know what I always wanted to know, like how did
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: they do their business?
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: How did it work?
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: So I think this kind of gives you an inside
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: falls or not false but primarily true.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: Of how would work and how it got down. So
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: when you tape so.
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: Things, so Tommy would have been in jail a long
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: time ago. Man, he drives the same getaway.
• 14:27
  Speaker 8: Car all right, and it's loud, hard to drive, toot,
• 14:35
  Speaker 8: it'd be pretty easy to peg Tommy.
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: He's not switching up rides all that much.
• 14:39
  Speaker 5: Although in the original Power Show they did, you know,
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: some of that some of that stick that.
• 14:43
  Speaker 12: I think that when you made that drive of Chicago,
• 14:44
  Speaker 12: you switched cars in the original.
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: Right, No, it's like they bucked me out of the car.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: Let's not talk about season one.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, you know, when you talk about
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: street credit and talking about what's real, how how important
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: is street code when you're doing these shows.
• 15:01
  Speaker 12: I honestly do think it's important. Honestly, we got to
• 15:04
  Speaker 12: keep it true to what it is. But also there
• 15:07
  Speaker 12: are some things that we don't want to touch on
• 15:09
  Speaker 12: because it's too real.
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: Like that's why they don't mention like real gangs.
• 15:12
  Speaker 12: We make up gang names because we don't want to
• 15:14
  Speaker 12: seem like we're promoting actual gang violence in the city
• 15:18
  Speaker 12: or making other gangs because our dms are crazy. I
• 15:21
  Speaker 12: can't speak for everybody, but mine is insane. Like my
• 15:25
  Speaker 12: dms get crazy when the show on the death threats
• 15:27
  Speaker 12: and a lot of people, oh dog, I get crazy DM.
• 15:32
  Speaker 12: So it's like we try to be careful with that
• 15:34
  Speaker 12: outen you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Slipping little vernacular improves that every now and again when
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: I see in the cut.
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: Because I'm really from Chicago, so I'll try to slip in.
• 15:45
  Speaker 11: Again.
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: I'll try to slip it in and there.
• 15:46
  Speaker 12: Because I know the city is going to be like bro,
• 15:48
  Speaker 12: I know, I know like that the city of Chicago
• 15:51
  Speaker 12: is behind it. I feel like New York and Chicago
• 15:54
  Speaker 12: are two cities that they don't. We don't really particularly
• 15:57
  Speaker 12: like when actors portray being from there if they're not
• 16:00
  Speaker 12: really from there, Like we don't want you to come
• 16:02
  Speaker 12: from LA and try to be on a New York
• 16:04
  Speaker 12: TV show saying you a hood dude from New York.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, London Brown crushes it as I'm
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: gomor what he knows.
• 16:11
  Speaker 12: An exceptional case. London Brown shout out to London. That's
• 16:13
  Speaker 12: my dog.
• 16:14
  Speaker 7: But like, I don't feel like New York and Chicago likes.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: That that LAY don't like it at all. LA is
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: another one, yeah, and they don't like it at all.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And I alway also wanted to know when y'all shoot
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: so many different films, how do y'all stay in character?
• 16:26
  Speaker 11: TV shows?
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: TV shows?
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how do y'all say in character in all the shows?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Because you have different characters in different shows.
• 16:32
  Speaker 12: I mean, for me, is the simple version for me
• 16:34
  Speaker 12: is action and cut, Like I'm not with you. Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 12: I've never been that guy for real that really like
• 16:40
  Speaker 12: takes it home with me.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: I just me neither.
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just know how to disassociated a lot more from.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: I just find that there's a lot more fun when
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: you get to it is. But also it's like coming
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: you know, coming from the theater. Do you know, It's
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: like if you're not going to bring that character home,
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: you're playing the guy for six months, you know what
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, You're just you just bring it to the theater.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: That's what you warm them up. That's why you get,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: you know, the whole thing.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Imagine Joe who pulled up to pick up his kid
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: from school. He pulled up in the car.
• 17:05
  Speaker 10: Yeah, when I see you, it's so hard to not
• 17:09
  Speaker 10: see Tommy, all of you guys. It's hard to not
• 17:12
  Speaker 10: envision y'all in the show. I'm like then, I was
• 17:13
  Speaker 10: just watching you last night.
• 17:14
  Speaker 11: Like me, I think Jo does.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: A fantastic job acting because he's nothing like Tommy in
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: real life.
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: Too, but the voice is there.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: He's selling copious amounts of drugs.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: But I'll be wondering, with all the spin offs, what
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: makes four stand out to you creatively and just all
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: of the different shows when you got to show up
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: this Tommy, do these shows even feel different?
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I mean they don't when I show up as Tommy.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: Tommy is Tommy is Tommy. And I feel like on
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: the original it was fun doing the guests that's on
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: the Ghost Show just to be that, and I love
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Michael so much, so it was always fun to come
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: back and do something with him. But I think that, yeah,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Tommy is kind of his own entity and one of
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: the fun things about taking the character home. I always
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: kept Tommy as close as I needed those first seasons
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: to make sure that, you know, everything was right and consistent,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: and that was my job. But like now, it is
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: fun in some capacity this, you know, ten eleven, twelve
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: years on from the original to be just be like
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: let the light.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Switch go, just to see what happens, because I'm not even.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Positive what I'm going to do in those situations because
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I have the luxury of like this character who's.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Got its own life, so you just flip it on.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Sometimes this happens. Sometimes it happened, I'm like, oh, that's
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: kind of funny or bizarre or whatever. So that that
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: has been a wonderful part of this journey.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: I always want to go also too, when you took
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the audition to play Joseph play time, I should say,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: did you think it would be this far?
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: And did did you want to do it?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Was like the original audition.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I wanted to do it so bad because well, because
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: you know, I played around in the streets growing up,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: and I you know, I was a very unsuccessful actor
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: for many years, and even in Chicago the lot of
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the areas where you because I was a graffiti writer
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: that many people know. So you know what I mean,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: You're dipping into these different kind of life and stuff
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: like that based Tommy a lot on guys that I
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: was scared of growing up and you know, making your
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: way through. So I think I felt like I just
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: just like, they're going to hire.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Some pretty guy and they're going to get it all wrong.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: And but so I passed on the initial audition for it,
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: just because I was getting married, and so I was
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: just like, I can't make the audition. But then it
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: came back around because you guys know that Fifth was
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: originally going to play the ghost character, and then when
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: he wasn't going to anymore than they had re auditions
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: for everything.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: And I like the script.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I thought this would be great, and I was a
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: fan of Fifth anyway. And then when I actually got it,
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: you know, I was the only one that auditioned from
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: New York, and so it was five auditions and finally
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: in La we did the chemistry reads and blah blah blah,
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: and when I booked it, I was really I was
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: super excited, and I said, the fifth is amazing.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: You know, I hope it goes more than a season
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: or whatever. He goes, this can go seven, And he
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: was almost right. I mean six and a half is
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: pretty texting me.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, actually more if you think about it, if
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: you yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: All the spin offs now it's been, it's been whatever.
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: You know, so what series means more to you, the
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: original Power or the four spinner.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: It's hard to say.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I just like working with Gary Lennon as a writer, like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: that's what it means. I mean, I think that just
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Gary bringing in the authenticity of his brothers being you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Westy's from a hell's kitchen and Gary's brings in so
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: much of the life of it. And even though Tommy's
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: from South Side Jamaica, I think, just like the whole
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: the authenticity of New York that Gary brings to the
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: character has really been a dance of two people. So
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: whatever Gary's writing means most of me.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: But I like, I love these guys.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: These are brothers and brothers for life, and I'm so
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: happy that I have you know, got to have friends
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: like this on the Force show, so that.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Means a lot.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: But it was also a meant a lot for me
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: to produce the show. And finally, because it's hard, man,
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: people don't want to give you even when you've earned
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: your seat at the table. You guys know that nobody
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: wants to let you have that seat, and everybody's still
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: vying for it. And even when I'm doing it, especially
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: the second season, you had people like picking at you,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: trying to put you down, like playing weird games. Behind
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: the scenes, You're just like, stop this nonsense. What is
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: happening here? But I think that I'm really proud of
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: the third season. I think the fans are going to
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: like it the best out of any of the season
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: at the four.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Shit, Now, what's more grueling NFL.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: Or being an actor?
• 21:04
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Because on Monday you're gonna get what you did wrong
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. But as an actor, you get that
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: every day that show comes on in the comments. So
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: what's more grueling for yourself?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 21:15
  Speaker 8: I don't miss you know, they always ask you that
• 21:17
  Speaker 8: what are you missing football? And I'm like, you don't
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: miss being out there like at this point in my life? No,
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: like no, you know me because it was you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: it was the physical aspect. But for me, playing football was
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: actually more of a grind than his acting. You know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: I was always trying that I was making the team.
• 21:30
  Speaker 8: I was on actor roster, the practice squad. I didn't
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: know where I was gonna be at next you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: but you know, you know, being emotionally unavailable to a
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: lot of outside relations because I just felt unstable in
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: the game at the time. And I feel like I
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: was giving so much to the game, but it wasn't
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: giving back to me, you know. So and if I
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: got an acting how to do that, and I don't know,
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: you know, they they say, maybe you two too many
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: hits in the here because you chose something it's very similar,
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: you know, because it's still it's unstable as well too.
• 21:52
  Speaker 11: But the things I've learned in the game.
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: Of football, I was able to transfer over to actor,
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: as far as the discipline, and far as the work ethic,
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: and far as the knowing how to deal with rejection,
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: because we get so many no's without them even saying
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: no to our face and acting, you know. So it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: like you just wait for that one yes, and you
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: realize how many people said have to say yes and
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: nord for you to get this role, you know, And
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: then so I look at it now it's like, you know,
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: you're grateful for it, but it's it's yeah, it's both
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: of them agouling their own aspects.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 22:16
  Speaker 11: So you know, I'm just the grind on. Stop is
• 22:19
  Speaker 11: just changes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: Isaac and Christian. In regard to dealing with fifty cent
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: what did y'all learn from little meat?
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: I never want to be on fifties bad side, that's all.
• 22:28
  Speaker 12: I've just learned that. And I never I never want
• 22:30
  Speaker 12: to owe fifty money ever. In life, not from little Meets,
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: but just in general, just from no cause I know
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: he wants it by Monday, and I just you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: and I just want to stay on this good side.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: I don't know, you know, with him and little whole
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: little Meats thing. I have no clue. I'm not privy
• 22:45
  Speaker 12: to truly what's going on there. I just know my
• 22:49
  Speaker 12: loyalty runs deep. I know today I booked this role.
• 22:52
  Speaker 12: One of the first things I did, you would appreciate, Charloane,
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: because you know you you a little messy. First thing
• 22:57
  Speaker 12: I did was I went straight to John Rule's Instagram pressed, unfollowed.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Followed back right now. This is followed back because I've
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: already met y'all. I already met him and long before
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I got on followed. I met him, and he followed me,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: his manager and everything. And I said, the one thing
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that will not happen, Curtis Jackson will not just be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: sitting down one day and go on John Rule's page
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and see followed by Christy Lofton.
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: You will not. And I just unfollowed. I don't know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: God heavens know.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Everybody fifth got problems.
• 23:30
  Speaker 12: You won't follow I'll follow Rick Ross everybody. I don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 12: follow any of them. I swear when we get off,
• 23:36
  Speaker 12: I'm gon show yourself follow.
• 23:39
  Speaker 11: Here's the viral moment.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: I answer what man, I've learned as you tell about football,
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: and that is walking my life, man like. I don't
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: get involved in the miss. I don't get involved anything, especially,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: I got too many other problems my own to be
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: worried about something else and what's going on over there,
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: because you never know all the complete details. You never know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: So why passed judge? Knowing they try to, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: do whatever. I just mind my business.
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: Man cool answer, Joseph, I want to say, I saw
• 24:08
  Speaker 10: TMZ ran until you did. They asked you about the
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: meat situation fifty posted and it said you was too smart.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: You got about it very easy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I got out there easy. I
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: think I chose my words pretty carefully.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: But it's because I think Meets is a nice young man.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: And I think that what people forget is that Fifth
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: paid for his acting classes. I mean, he invested into Meets.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: So there's there's a certain amount there that's that's you know,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: there there was love, and I basically what I said
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: to teams, if there was love there can be love again,
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: you know. There there's a certain amount of redemption or
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: forgiveness within there. So it's also just like I try
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: to stay in my lane as well. You know, it's
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: not again, Like Isaac said, it's not really my business,
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: but I I want everybody to get along, but you can't. Man,
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep it moving exactly.
• 24:51
  Speaker 10: You really think though, that there could be love again.
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: It seems like fifty's kind of like done with that situation.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, he then he's probably then he's probably done,
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: you know, But I always there's always hope.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: It's interesting with power too, because power is built on
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: loyalty is built on betrayal and ambition. So I want
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: to ask y'all in real life, what's more dangerous ambition
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: with no loyalty or loyalty with no ambition.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Wow, I'll go ambition with no loyalty the same.
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: That's what I would go. That's dangerous. I'm still processing.
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: That's deep.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Look, I'll be overthinking that something fantastic.
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: Loyal Lord, I probably to concur like ambition.
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: I think ambition can be because some too much ambition
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: can always be in a relationship. Because therefore, now you
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: just going for what you want, you can becomes you
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: can become very selfish in aspect. When you become selfish,
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: you end up hurting a lot of people around you,
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: especially when they try to be loyal to you, you know,
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: and then you ambition that you moving different. You say,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: we're moving weird, you know, you know, so trying to
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: figure that out. I think that's that's a good question.
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: But I like when The Power Show, in all of
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: its incurrent nations, shows that that that without loyalty, without this,
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: with just blind the ambition, things fall apart.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: This kind of lifestyle is people you can't be happy
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: in a lot of ways. I always say Tommy's like a
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: vampire somebody she keeps living, but like he's living alone
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: and it could be a lonely life.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: It's like it's not winning.
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, every day is like you're looking over your shoulder,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: You're trying to figure it out. There was some scenes
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: I always looking always admired, you know, when I Tolse
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: does because you talked about how can you walk away
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: from it? But there's scenes where you know, I'm just
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: only my first season doing it, and I'm like, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: you feel all the treachery behind you, the people that's
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: trying to do all these things, like feeling like Gennar
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: are trying to kill Diamond. I personalized that a little bit,
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: like so even on the set, like I couldn't talk
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: to him for a little while after that, like knowing how,
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: you know, just knowing how he moved. He's sitting around
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: the corner, over the corner, smoking the square, laughing, being
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: Chris as big.
• 26:47
  Speaker 11: I'm in a barbershop looking like this.
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: Like I still wasn't over with it for a time
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: because and I always admired about the you know, the
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: character Tommy's because he dealt with that for so many
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: seasons on Power over and over again. And then come
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: to this, I'm like, it takes some therapy. It takes
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: some you know, some some aspect later on to be
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: like okay, let me let that go.
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: It takes practice because it is deep.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: Feeling still in therapy and you're talking to the right
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: guys here more advocates for.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: Me, it's a cane and able dynamic that y'all relationship
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: on the show.
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: It definitely is, I think so, I definitely think it's
• 27:18
  Speaker 12: that that's a good analogy.
• 27:21
  Speaker 10: Can y'all talk about from from ghosts to force the
• 27:26
  Speaker 10: women that are involved with different characters throughout the series.
• 27:29
  Speaker 10: So shanty with you this season and then you're dating
• 27:33
  Speaker 10: Maria Miguel's sister, right there's and then you go in
• 27:37
  Speaker 10: and out of your situation.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, look for and all their wrong places all y'all
• 27:42
  Speaker 9: be though.
• 27:43
  Speaker 10: That's what I want to ask, like that that common
• 27:45
  Speaker 10: storyline is every chapter every season. But y'all never learned
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: people always end up dead? What is the reason for that?
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: Like why are we watching you?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Guys? Never learn why? Because mixed life.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I think that all the time, Like, oh, you know,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: girls like the bad boy, but then I get hurt
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: and it's like what are you dating a bad boy for?
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: But because I like him? So you know, a lot
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: of that I.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Think just is again responsible storytelling, because that's what humans
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: do a lot of times. I think that that's not
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: necessarily Tommy's intention to speaking with Maria, but in a
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: lot of ways, like he demands loyalty or death, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: so I mean you think about with Lakeisha and he's like, Yo,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: you want to be with me, keish, you gotta be
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: all in and he pulls out the gun she's like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I'm all in.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: He's like, Gonga slips back under the couch.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: So with Maria just that she said, I'm choosing this
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: lifestyle to be in even though I've done everything in
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: my life to not be part of this. Although I
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: know what the game is and I grew up around it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put all that aside for you. I'm gonna
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: put everything aside for you. I think in a lot
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: of ways, the Timmy that we know is like, Okay,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put everything away for you, and he means it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: And that's that's one of the attractive qualities about the character,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: is that this extreme loyalty that you're almost like, but
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: hold up, you just know this, you just met. But
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: some people are like that, like when we move in
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: with each other, people too early, when we when we
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: I'm all for you, and like sometimes when you're all
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: for somebody, it actually you know, pushes them away with
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: that same that magnetism, because magnetism works both ways, right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: it either goes like this or if you flip it behind,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: it goes like this. So it's it's gonna be a
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: little push and pull with Tommy and Maria.
• 29:18
  Speaker 10: And a lot of times with the women that y'all
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: are dating. There is no loyalty there, right, everybody wants
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: some good of situation. Do you think that you're able
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: to really be loyal in what you're doing a day
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: to day in your life if you can't be loyal
• 29:29
  Speaker 10: in your relationship from.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: When you got communication.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: If there's communications there and you say, hey, listen, like
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Tommy said, listen, I can't tell you this.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I'm not this where you.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Everything is happening, all right, but you need plausible deniability.
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: I can't tell you everything because I care about you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: So as long as there's communication, I think that helps
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: a lot of stuff. But I want to hear what
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: you want to say about Jaunty.
• 29:49
  Speaker 10: What I want to say about Shaunty had you spinning?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: That's the thing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: Like, I think there truly is love there. Because a
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: lot of people.
• 29:55
  Speaker 12: Always question does Shanti and jine I really love each
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: other or is she just using him or manipulating him?
• 30:00
  Speaker 12: I think she truly does love Jannar because she was
• 30:03
  Speaker 12: there for me when I was in the dark place.
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: You know, Jannar was going through shit, he was battling
• 30:06
  Speaker 12: an addiction, he was everything like that. She was there
• 30:08
  Speaker 12: for him. I couldn't tell my brother because I was
• 30:10
  Speaker 12: trying to hide it. I was embarrassed. I didn't want
• 30:12
  Speaker 12: nobody to know that this is how Jennard was. So
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: Shati came to Jannard in a very dark place. So
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: I think there is love there. But I do think
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: that Jannard sometimes makes her think that she's in control
• 30:26
  Speaker 12: and that's why he ends up going out and doing
• 30:27
  Speaker 12: whatever he wants to do. Anyway, but he sometimes he
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: just tell her what you want to hear so she
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: can shut up. And I don't think and I think
• 30:33
  Speaker 12: it mimics real life because some boyfriend's husbands sometimes girls
• 30:36
  Speaker 12: do that. Okay, bab, yeah you're right, knowing damn well,
• 30:39
  Speaker 12: I don't think that, but yeah, you're right, just so
• 30:41
  Speaker 12: you can keep the peace, happy wife, happy life, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: then you're gonna end up doing your own things.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: So I think that this season with Shanti and Gennard,
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: were just gonna.
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: See how that relationship truly on foes and I think
• 30:51
  Speaker 12: they love and loyalty and all of that will detested.
• 30:55
  Speaker 10: For me this season with you guys, one of the
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: biggest things I looked at it as in earlier episodes
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: was she so you as like almost like something that
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: she could like build up and use and dangle, like
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: you have a sort of power that you didn't know
• 31:07
  Speaker 10: and she saw it and she was using you for that,
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: and once she used you, it was going to.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Be like whatever.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: That's what you take from it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: In the earlier episodes, Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: You see that because it came across like that.
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: And I feel like while I was doing it subconsciously
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: because we never know what's going on with the scripts.
• 31:24
  Speaker 12: Every episode we get the script, like we never know
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: who about to die or nothing, right, you know, So
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: I'm I'm looking I'm like, okay, But in my head,
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: in my head, I always try to subconsciously play Jannar
• 31:37
  Speaker 12: in Shanty's relationship a little to the point where it's
• 31:40
  Speaker 12: like Jannar could possibly kill her if he wanted to
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: or if he has to, like he loves her, but
• 31:46
  Speaker 12: I don't know what was that look.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: I just feel like Jannark could kill anybody.
• 31:49
  Speaker 12: That's what I tried to subconsciously implement that. Like, so
• 31:53
  Speaker 12: there would be moments in the script where it'll say,
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: like Jennar leans in and kisses Shanty passionately, and instead
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: of doing that I've just look at it and be like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 12: I fuck with you and do that instead of kissing her,
• 32:05
  Speaker 12: because I feel like that leaves room if I have
• 32:07
  Speaker 12: to kill her, it won't come as you know what
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: I'm saying, And in my head I played it like
• 32:11
  Speaker 12: that subconsciously, I'm not gonna kisser right here.
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: I did one.
• 32:14
  Speaker 12: I was like, you know, I'm fucking with the right girl.
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: I said that instead of the passionate kiss that was
• 32:19
  Speaker 12: supposed to happen. I just tried to keep that open
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: just in case because I didn't know where they were going.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: Why you think would have made you look more grimy
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: if you kissed it and had a relationship and then
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: killed it.
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: No, I just wanted to leave fans in my head
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: and like I said, it might not have even been working,
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: But in my head, I was like, there might be
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: people watching this that are looking like, ooh, he might
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: kill her, Like you know what I'm saying, Like in
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: my head it might not even been the case, but
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: I just kept that window open.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Jodaph is there an end of the Power Universe?
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Have there been talks like to the maybe to the
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: end of Tommy's character.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: There's been talks Oh, but I feel like in terms
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: of the end of the Power Universe, I think that
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: most talks are about expansion. All right, where where can
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: we go next? You know, we're the only Power show
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: that takes place outside in New York, so that was
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: kind of a big thing for them at this point too.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: But then with you know, with fifties other shows, with
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: fight Land coming out and in England, I feel like
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: they're going to probably be thinking about a little bit
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: of international expansion in some capacity through the Power Universe.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: And then I'm sure that they'll they'll expand on stories
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: in New York like they are doing already in.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: The Origin story.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: But I bet there will be more spin offs that
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: take place around uh NYC.
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: Do you have an idea what what you would want
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: the ending?
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: I know exactly what I would want the ending for Tommy.
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: In fact, me and Gary Lennon are already starting to
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: make an outline for a for a movie, for a
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: feature that would be kind of the possibly the final
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: final chapter.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Hard Oh, he can't tell us.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: You know about this. I don't want to.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Every move I make that has any thing to do
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: with Power, and almost any move I make anything he
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: wants to though he could know. But any move I make,
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I fifth is all I always have because it's responsible.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: He he's he's old it because yeah, because I'm a
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: loyal you know, friend or colleague or whatever. But he's
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: also old it because he's owded it because he's an
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: executive producer and a creator.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: So he's old it twice.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: But I also I always give the respect to Fifth
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: because there's a good guy. Like he's been a good
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: person of me, a great person of me. He's taught
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: me a lot, he sat down with me, he's been accessible,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Like I realize how much I owe fifty and I'm grateful.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Well, definitely check out the final season of Force. Make
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: sure you check it out. The first episode was last Friday.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: And we appreciate you brothers for joining us.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Isaac Key's Christy Lofton. It's the Breakfast Club. Good wake
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that ass up in the morning.
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: The Breakfast Club