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- 0:09Speaker 1: Hey, rain Drops on today's episode of Regain, I'll let's
- 0:12Speaker 1: keep it the King.
- 0:13Speaker 2: It is breaking news, kill the Sirens, Emergency nine.
- 0:17Speaker 1: One one, not Angelab acid series. I'm Hulu in ABC
- 0:21Speaker 1: I or is it Fox Child? I forgot ABC the
- 0:24Speaker 1: last right.
- 0:25Speaker 2: I think it got transferred over.
- 0:27Speaker 1: But nonetheless, rain Drop, I have fanned favorite returning to
- 0:32Speaker 1: give us the scoop on what's been happening with ABC
- 0:37Speaker 1: canceling The Bachelorettes three days before the premiere after the
- 0:43Speaker 1: Secret Lies of Mormon Wife starred Taylor Frankie Paul in
- 0:48Speaker 1: twenty twenty three showed us in a domestic violence situation
- 0:53Speaker 1: she was in with her ex.
- 0:56Speaker 2: So listen to break it all down, I.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Have to call my girl, and y'all, girl, give it
- 1:02Speaker 1: up for the one, the only, the extremely talented and
- 1:06Speaker 1: may I also had beautiful Jasmine Henley Brown.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Hello, my friend. I'm so happy to be back. I
- 1:13Speaker 3: feel like I'm back home, back home.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Come back home, maybe come back.
- 1:20Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my gosh.
- 1:21Speaker 3: So I'm so excited to give you all of the
- 1:24Speaker 3: tea about everything that is going on with loving hip
- 1:27Speaker 3: hop Salt Lake City, I mean Taylor Franky Paul in
- 1:30Speaker 3: the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
- 1:33Speaker 1: You know what, before we get into what's going on,
- 1:36Speaker 1: this is why I always tell the girls, honey, the
- 1:41Speaker 1: girls love to say love and hip hop battie zeus.
- 1:45Speaker 2: You know they love to shade the ratchet black.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Shows right and how you know dangerous it is and
- 1:53Speaker 1: listen and although some of them may be true, but
- 1:57Speaker 1: let's be clear, honey, the white shows do it as well.
- 2:01Speaker 1: And watching this video of this woman named Taylor Frankie Paul.
- 2:08Speaker 1: First of all, Raindrops, I don't watch Secret Lives and
- 2:11Speaker 1: Warmer Wives. I've never seen an episode. So in order
- 2:15Speaker 1: for us to really understand what's happening, I had to
- 2:18Speaker 1: tap Jasmin, who has an amazing YouTube show called Channel Serf.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Makes you guys subscribe if you haven't. I know the
- 2:26Speaker 1: rain Drops love you so child surely did.
- 2:28Speaker 2: But Jasmin is.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Here to tell us all things about this woman. So
- 2:34Speaker 1: Jasmine Taylor, what's her tea?
- 2:38Speaker 2: Is she ratchet? Magratchet? And where you shocked when you saw.
- 2:42Speaker 1: This unfortunate video that was leaked hate Dakota allegedly of
- 2:46Speaker 1: a twenty two three incident where Honey, she is throwing
- 2:51Speaker 1: chairs and they're saying that she struck a child, So yes,
- 2:56Speaker 1: give us a tea.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So Taylor, Frankie Paul rest in peace to dear she
- 3:00Speaker 3: would have been Jerry Springer's wet dream. That is how
- 3:03Speaker 3: ratchet this girl is her claim to fame. She was
- 3:07Speaker 3: a TikTok star social media star. But she really blew
- 3:10Speaker 3: up because there was a swinging scandal that came out.
- 3:13Speaker 3: She exposed that her and her friends and their husbands
- 3:16Speaker 3: they were all sleeping with each other, making out s
- 3:20Speaker 3: and d having sex, all of this stuff. And she
- 3:23Speaker 3: went to TikTok and the you know, social media just
- 3:27Speaker 3: blew up with it. And they have hashtag mom Talk,
- 3:30Speaker 3: which is like a group of these Mormon women who
- 3:33Speaker 3: live in Utah. They all get together, they they record
- 3:36Speaker 3: content together. So she blew it all up and so
- 3:39Speaker 3: because of that, she gets this show on Hulu. So
- 3:42Speaker 3: I think this scandal broke the swinging scandal. Yes, the
- 3:45Speaker 3: swinging scandal broke in I want to say twenty twenty two,
- 3:48Speaker 3: maybe twenty one or twenty two. Then they get their
- 3:51Speaker 3: show on Hulu like the next year, right, So.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Hulu is like, We're on it.
- 3:55Speaker 3: People are obsessed. It's a bunch of you know conventionally
- 3:59Speaker 3: attractive skin any young white women in Utah who are
- 4:02Speaker 3: sleeping together. America loves that. America loves that. Parts of America.
- 4:09Speaker 4: I didn't. It didn't do anything to me, you know
- 4:11Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It wasn't gonna wear my whistle. It
- 4:13Speaker 4: wasn't gonna turn me on.
- 4:14Speaker 2: But right I'm like, I'm kind of gross out, but.
- 4:18Speaker 4: Go ahead, listen.
- 4:19Speaker 3: They they people went crazy for them. So yes, they
- 4:22Speaker 3: get the show on Hulu, The Secret Lives of Mormon
- 4:25Speaker 3: Wives aka the Secret Lives of Ghetto Wives, which is
- 4:28Speaker 3: what Lex is a baddie on TikTok calls them the
- 4:31Speaker 3: Secret Lives of Ghetto Wives because it is Taylor Frankie
- 4:35Speaker 3: Paul and she is the leader. Yes, I am your leader.
- 4:37Speaker 3: In the words of Nicki Minaj, she is.
- 4:41Speaker 4: She is the girl, Taylor.
- 4:48Speaker 3: I know, I know the girls are fake mad at
- 4:52Speaker 3: her right now, but the music still stands. Okay anyway, Yes,
- 4:58Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul is the leader of mom Talk, and
- 5:02Speaker 3: so they get this show on Hulu. The very first
- 5:05Speaker 3: episode of the show, Carlos, It opens with footage of
- 5:09Speaker 3: her being arrested from this incident that we just got
- 5:12Speaker 3: the video of So we already start out knowing that
- 5:17Speaker 3: this bitch is messy, okay, And like the entire series
- 5:20Speaker 3: is like around her and her friends in Utah. They
- 5:23Speaker 3: all hate each other, but they all make a bag
- 5:25Speaker 3: together so they kind of like keep it going, but
- 5:28Speaker 3: they cuss each other out, like it is so messy,
- 5:31Speaker 3: and it's like, yes, it is tech, it is ghetto,
- 5:34Speaker 3: and I don't know what people like to reserve the
- 5:36Speaker 3: word ghetto for ghetto is like any type of ghetto activity.
- 5:39Speaker 3: So they definitely do a lot of ghetto shit in Utah.
- 5:42Speaker 3: But Dakota, you mentioned him. Dakota is her baby daddy.
- 5:45Speaker 3: So Taylor was married at first. Her husband was the
- 5:48Speaker 3: husband that was in the swinging scandal. They ended up divorced,
- 5:51Speaker 3: so she had two children with her husband, they got
- 5:53Speaker 3: a divorce, she ends up messing with Dakota. She gets
- 5:56Speaker 3: pregnant by Dakota. So Dakota is her baby daddy. He
- 6:00Speaker 3: is a recovering drug addict, like just kind of like, yeah, somebody,
- 6:06Speaker 3: it's a match made in hell from day one. So
- 6:08Speaker 3: episode one of Mormon Wives, we can all see as
- 6:11Speaker 3: an audience like this is a train wreck. But what
- 6:14Speaker 3: do we like as reality TV viewers, we love a
- 6:17Speaker 3: fucking train wreck. So we were watching this knowing that
- 6:20Speaker 3: something is off with her. If you watch an episode,
- 6:23Speaker 3: even one episode of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, you
- 6:26Speaker 3: can look at Taylor in tel like something is off.
- 6:29Speaker 3: Like her vibe has always just been very weird, very manic.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I'm not calling her manic. I'm not diagnosing anyone, but
- 6:35Speaker 3: it's very manic and like genery all the time. So
- 6:39Speaker 3: you can watch her like you can look at her
- 6:41Speaker 3: and you can tell that something is wrong. And there's
- 6:43Speaker 3: actually this season, season four. They're on season four because
- 6:47Speaker 3: they Hulu pumps out these seasons like that.
- 6:50Speaker 4: I was watching the.
- 6:51Speaker 3: First couple of episodes and I was like, I feel
- 6:53Speaker 3: like I'm watching somebody who's like actively going through like
- 6:55Speaker 3: a mental health crisis. I think I'm gonna tap out.
- 6:57Speaker 3: So I stop watching the season because I'm like something
- 7:00Speaker 3: and this, mind you, this is before we got the video.
- 7:03Speaker 3: I'm like, something is like really wrong with this young lady,
- 7:06Speaker 3: and I just don't think that it's healthy and so.
- 7:08Speaker 1: And just so I'm clear, you came to that conclusion.
- 7:12Speaker 1: This current season that's airing on Hulu.
- 7:16Speaker 3: It started to feel like exploitation this season, I've always
- 7:21Speaker 3: felt like something was wrong with her, but like talk
- 7:24Speaker 3: about a person over four seasons of a show, I've
- 7:26Speaker 3: seen no growth in Taylor at all. Like she just
- 7:30Speaker 3: is constantly messy. Her and Dakota have been going back
- 7:34Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth. Yeah, then some allegance before
- 7:38Speaker 3: this video even dropped. You know, when she was announced
- 7:41Speaker 3: as a bachelor, people fans were like, what the fuck
- 7:44Speaker 3: is wrong with ABC? Like she is a bachelor of
- 7:46Speaker 3: all people that they could have chosen. Because she was
- 7:49Speaker 3: convicted of a crime with this twenty twenty three incident.
- 7:53Speaker 3: So she was charged with aggravated assault, domestic violence in
- 7:58Speaker 3: the presence of a child, child abuse, and I think
- 8:00Speaker 3: one other charge. But she ended up pleading guilty to
- 8:05Speaker 3: the felony assaults, right, So she pleaded guilty to felony
- 8:09Speaker 3: assaults and she was put on probation. So she got
- 8:12Speaker 3: a thirty six month probation that was supposed to end
- 8:15Speaker 3: in August of this year. So if she was able
- 8:18Speaker 3: to abide by the probation like the parameter set forth
- 8:21Speaker 3: by the probation, she would come off of probation and
- 8:24Speaker 3: then that felony charge would be reduced to a misdemeanor. However,
- 8:29Speaker 3: recent news came out saying that she choked Dakota thirty
- 8:33Speaker 3: days ago. So that's what kicked everything off. This report
- 8:36Speaker 3: came out she choked Dakota with a necklace thirty days ago.
- 8:39Speaker 3: Their son that they shared together was allegedly right there, right,
- 8:44Speaker 3: So she has a history of domestic violence in front
- 8:47Speaker 3: of her children.
- 8:47Speaker 4: So that came out.
- 8:48Speaker 3: People were like, no way, can ABC still air her
- 8:51Speaker 3: season of The Bachelor?
- 8:52Speaker 4: Right, Like, no way they're going to do this.
- 8:54Speaker 3: They still ABC still had her doing press after that
- 8:57Speaker 3: news came out, They still had her doing press. She
- 9:00Speaker 3: was on an apology tour and then boom, this video
- 9:03Speaker 3: drops of her assaulting Dakota, throwing metal barstools at him.
- 9:08Speaker 3: One of the barstools hit her daughter. Mind you, all
- 9:11Speaker 3: of this is in the police report. Though this is
- 9:14Speaker 3: not new news. All of it is in the police report.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Her daughter had a knot on her head from being
- 9:18Speaker 3: hit with that barstool. I'm not joking. I'm not joking.
- 9:22Speaker 2: So all of this was in the court not to
- 9:25Speaker 2: rupt you. How old is her daughter was her daughter
- 9:28Speaker 2: at the time, Actually.
- 9:30Speaker 4: I don't know that. I don't I don't want to.
- 9:31Speaker 3: I don't want to even try to guess young, like
- 9:33Speaker 3: she has young kids though I don't think any of
- 9:35Speaker 3: her kids are like older than like maybe five or six.
- 9:38Speaker 3: But yeah, so her you know, she her daughter was
- 9:41Speaker 3: hit when she threw a barstool at Dakota. And so
- 9:43Speaker 3: now the question is, did ABC just pull her season
- 9:47Speaker 3: of The Bachelorette because that video came out? Because that
- 9:51Speaker 3: police report, the video, it's all public record, so they
- 9:55Speaker 3: had to know.
- 9:57Speaker 4: So that's that's the long and short of it.
- 9:59Speaker 3: She he's a fucking mess. Yeah, and she does belong
- 10:03Speaker 3: on Baddie's provo.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Well absolutely. So there's a lot to unpack here and
- 10:10Speaker 1: rain drops. The reason why I wanted to again have
- 10:15Speaker 1: that is because I knew none of this. I know,
- 10:20Speaker 1: I needed somebody to articulate the backstory in a way
- 10:23Speaker 1: that's digestible for us to understand the gravity of what's
- 10:27Speaker 1: going on. I want to go back just a little
- 10:30Speaker 1: bit because one thing that you did talk about, Thank you, Lizzie.
- 10:34Speaker 1: So I have a Lizzie note my assistant Lizzie.
- 10:37Speaker 2: The daughter was five years old at the time that
- 10:41Speaker 2: she got struck.
- 10:42Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Lizzie.
- 10:44Speaker 2: This happened. This happened in twenty twenty three.
- 10:48Speaker 1: Yeah, the show was airing at this time, correct, Jasmin,
- 10:57Speaker 1: the show has been on since.
- 11:00Speaker 4: Well, twenty twenty three is when the show aired.
- 11:02Speaker 3: I believe, because, like I said, the footage from her
- 11:05Speaker 3: arrest is in the first episode of the show, so
- 11:08Speaker 3: cameras were up I believe when this incident occurred or
- 11:13Speaker 3: shortly after. But yes, if you go back, if you
- 11:14Speaker 3: watch the first episode of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,
- 11:18Speaker 3: that footage from her arrest and that night is in
- 11:20Speaker 3: the very first episode, and then the second episode she
- 11:23Speaker 3: tells us that she's pregnant by the same guy she
- 11:25Speaker 3: was just charge was so old fault.
- 11:30Speaker 1: So with that being said, like you said, this isn't
- 11:32Speaker 1: a secret, it's public record.
- 11:36Speaker 2: I also read on people dot Com.
- 11:39Speaker 1: That during a September twenty twenty five interview, Okay, so
- 11:45Speaker 1: that's a little over six months ago, she was on
- 11:48Speaker 1: call her Daddy podcast and said that all the charges
- 11:52Speaker 1: were dropped, and she called the incident the hardest time
- 11:54Speaker 1: of her life, quoted saying, I never had her my daughter.
- 11:58Speaker 1: I never intentionally did anything with my children. So the
- 12:04Speaker 1: thing is this obviously everybody knew this incident happened, and
- 12:07Speaker 1: they still proceeded with the show, which again I'm not
- 12:10Speaker 1: vicing Clarences legals. That's determined by the legal department at
- 12:16Speaker 1: every networkod streamer, and that's me speaking as producer.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Every network has.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Their own standards and practices of what they deem to be,
- 12:29Speaker 1: you know, what they deemed to be something that either
- 12:34Speaker 1: they feel is a no, no or okay. In this case,
- 12:40Speaker 1: she has probation, and you know we're gonna follow that
- 12:46Speaker 1: now that you're telling us that not only did this happen,
- 12:50Speaker 1: to the point where they film the aftermath of it
- 12:53Speaker 1: to include in season one, episode one, she was caught
- 13:00Speaker 1: again and another domestic violence situation with the same guy
- 13:09Speaker 1: where she allegedly chubked him. Yes, well, I find so
- 13:15Speaker 1: interesting is this. I saw the video and now I'm
- 13:19Speaker 1: learning that this is a This is pretty much a
- 13:21Speaker 1: repeat pattern on her.
- 13:24Speaker 3: If this was a man, Yep, you already know if
- 13:29Speaker 3: this was a man. If it was if this was
- 13:31Speaker 3: a man, he would have never been offered the Bachelor
- 13:34Speaker 3: in the first place because ABC knew, like ABC aired this, Hulu.
- 13:40Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Abc and Hulu are in
- 13:42Speaker 3: cohoots with each other Hulu.
- 13:44Speaker 4: It was on the.
- 13:44Speaker 3: Hulu show, so like they know because Disney owns all
- 13:47Speaker 3: of them, right, yes, he owns ABC.
- 13:50Speaker 4: Okay, so they're all one company.
- 13:52Speaker 3: There's no way in hell they didn't know about this
- 13:54Speaker 3: because they put it on the show, so they knew
- 13:57Speaker 3: that she had been charged, merged with these things. And
- 14:01Speaker 3: then she she you know, pled guilty to the felony assault.
- 14:06Speaker 3: So like it wasn't like a misunderstanding, It wasn't a thing.
- 14:09Speaker 3: She's been in interviews literally like saying that she was
- 14:11Speaker 3: the aggressor in that twenty twenty three incident, so like
- 14:14Speaker 3: she knows that she fucked up. Yes, Yes, allegedly she
- 14:19Speaker 3: hit Dakota. And this is based on the police report
- 14:23Speaker 3: that is public records, So I don't even know why
- 14:24Speaker 3: I'm saying it. Allegedly she hit Dakota when the police
- 14:28Speaker 3: showed up. She hit Dakota in front of the police.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Child.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like ABC knew all of this, Dizzy
- 14:35Speaker 3: knew all of this about her. And yes, if this
- 14:37Speaker 3: was if this were a man, if the roles were
- 14:39Speaker 3: reversed and this was Dakota, they would have never offered
- 14:41Speaker 3: Dakota the Bachelor because of this history, and that's.
- 14:49Speaker 2: The reason why. Okay, so when this show was now airing.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Their fifth season four, you stopped watching because you felt that, Okay,
- 15:04Speaker 1: this is now becoming exploit of what is Taylor like
- 15:08Speaker 1: on this show for the past couple of seasons. You know,
- 15:11Speaker 1: I know where you're saying, ghetto, train wreck, all those.
- 15:14Speaker 2: Things, but what are you seeing.
- 15:18Speaker 1: To the point where you said, Okay, I could digest
- 15:21Speaker 1: stuff seasons one through four, but now this shit is
- 15:24Speaker 1: getting out of hand and you've made this. You made
- 15:27Speaker 1: this decision, Jasmine, before this recent incident even occurred.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're on season four right now, the season
- 15:34Speaker 3: that's airing right now, Season four. Yes, so the first
- 15:37Speaker 3: I didn't finish season three either, partially because the show,
- 15:40Speaker 3: the show isn't as good as like people make it
- 15:42Speaker 3: out to be. So that's also why, like season three,
- 15:44Speaker 3: I was just like, it's just not that great. So
- 15:46Speaker 3: I just stopped watching one day and just never went back.
- 15:49Speaker 3: So I picked back up with season four because I
- 15:51Speaker 3: was planning to watch her Bachelorette season. Mind you, I've
- 15:54Speaker 3: never watched the Bachelorette season in my life, but I
- 15:56Speaker 3: knew her, but I knew her shit was going to
- 15:58Speaker 3: be correct, it was.
- 16:00Speaker 4: Going to be a train wreck.
- 16:01Speaker 3: I was like, I would be shocked if she actually
- 16:02Speaker 3: ends the season with a guy, because like she is
- 16:04Speaker 3: so hung up on Dakota. So over this last three seasons,
- 16:08Speaker 3: she has had some ups and downs when you see
- 16:10Speaker 3: like the family that she comes from, her mom and
- 16:12Speaker 3: her stepfather are very critical of her. She doesn't make
- 16:18Speaker 3: it easy, but you can almost see like why she
- 16:21Speaker 3: might be the way she is because she grew up
- 16:23Speaker 3: with this mom who was almost like borderline in competition
- 16:26Speaker 3: with her or and then like also just wants to
- 16:29Speaker 3: make her feel bad about herself at every turn, but
- 16:32Speaker 3: then kind of low KEI is trying to hold her
- 16:34Speaker 3: accountable when she makes bad decisions. So it does seem
- 16:37Speaker 3: like a recipe for a disaster. So we've been able
- 16:39Speaker 3: to see her interact like with her family, her mom,
- 16:42Speaker 3: her stepfather. There was one seeing her mom want to
- 16:44Speaker 3: go get a face lift, and then when her mom
- 16:46Speaker 3: came to see her after the facelift, she was like,
- 16:47Speaker 3: do I look like you now? And I was like,
- 16:50Speaker 3: why do you want to look at your daughter like?
- 16:52Speaker 3: So it's a strange dynamic with her and her family.
- 16:56Speaker 3: So anybody who understands, Okay, when you can diditioned a
- 17:00Speaker 3: certain way, it does make you grow up to like
- 17:03Speaker 3: have tics or you could develop anxiety whatever. So her
- 17:07Speaker 3: family history lets you know something started when she was
- 17:12Speaker 3: really young. But she's often very erratic. She's very like
- 17:16Speaker 3: quick to anger. She wants to confront Like her and
- 17:19Speaker 3: Dakota are on again, off again, and so whenever they're
- 17:22Speaker 3: off and he goes and dates anybody, she wants to
- 17:25Speaker 3: confront them. There's a scene I think last season she
- 17:28Speaker 3: had a girl that he was like dating come to
- 17:32Speaker 3: one of her friend's house so that she could talk
- 17:33Speaker 3: to her about like what she did with Dakota. And
- 17:36Speaker 3: the girl was like, yeah, Dakota and now we went
- 17:38Speaker 3: on dates and we did that. And Taylor's like crying
- 17:40Speaker 3: on the couch to this girl like, oh, he took
- 17:42Speaker 3: you on days during the day and then he would
- 17:44Speaker 3: come and fuck me yet night, so like I was
- 17:45Speaker 3: only good enough for him to fuck yeah. So like
- 17:48Speaker 3: she's just a very Yeah. The emotional she has, she
- 17:53Speaker 3: she does not she's not able to regulate her emotion
- 17:56Speaker 3: as well. And then even in this then the three
- 17:58Speaker 3: episodes that I watch of this season, Dakota and all
- 18:02Speaker 3: of the other guys they call themselves Dad Talk Now,
- 18:06Speaker 3: they went to vander pum Villa and apparently, yeah, yeah,
- 18:11Speaker 3: they went to vander pum Villa.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Embarrassing by the moment.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Oh gosh, no, it's it's it's such trailer trash, it
- 18:21Speaker 3: really is. They go to vander pum Villa and allegedly
- 18:25Speaker 3: Dakota has sex with a woman in vander pum Villa,
- 18:28Speaker 3: and then Taylor finds out about it. Her friend Jesse
- 18:31Speaker 3: tells her and she's in Jesse's closet because all of
- 18:35Speaker 3: these bitches have tons of money, so they're sitting in
- 18:37Speaker 3: Jesse's closet.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Okay, that's how big her closet is. And she's like.
- 18:40Speaker 4: Taylor's like, I have to call Dakota, and Jesse's like no, no,
- 18:43Speaker 4: no, no no.
- 18:43Speaker 3: She's like no, I have to call him, and she's
- 18:45Speaker 3: like crying and she calls and she's like, did you
- 18:47Speaker 3: fuck her?
- 18:49Speaker 4: Did you finish? Did you enjoy it? Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 4: It's a weird kink that she might have of like
- 18:59Speaker 4: imagine him getting it on with other women. But I mean,
- 19:03Speaker 4: she is a swinger, so.
- 19:06Speaker 3: It tracks okay, watch list.
- 19:14Speaker 4: It's so messy.
- 19:16Speaker 3: It's so it's messy to the point where like I
- 19:18Speaker 3: told you, like I've gotten to season four and I'm like,
- 19:21Speaker 3: am I a bad person?
- 19:23Speaker 4: Because like I took joy in this at a time?
- 19:25Speaker 4: Because it is just so crazy.
- 19:27Speaker 3: The other girls on the Mormon Wives, one of them
- 19:29Speaker 3: she had an affair with one of the guys that
- 19:32Speaker 3: vander because they went to vander Pump Villa last year.
- 19:34Speaker 3: So one of the other girls she had an affair
- 19:36Speaker 3: with one of the guys at vander pump Villa. The
- 19:38Speaker 3: other one had an emotional affair with the same guy
- 19:42Speaker 3: in vander pump Villa. All of them had started having
- 19:46Speaker 3: children when they were like nineteen twenty years old, so
- 19:48Speaker 3: they're all like these like young asque girls with like
- 19:52Speaker 3: two three children married to these men who like want
- 19:57Speaker 3: to uphold these Mormon values. But like now the women
- 20:00Speaker 3: are the bread winners because of all this content creation.
- 20:02Speaker 3: So now this season, all the men are like quitting
- 20:04Speaker 3: their jobs and not working and they want to start
- 20:06Speaker 3: their own like internet group dad talk.
- 20:08Speaker 4: It is a fucking yeah.
- 20:10Speaker 3: It's so there's so much, there's so many layers Carlos like,
- 20:13Speaker 3: I feel like I'm not even scratching the surface.
- 20:15Speaker 2: Really, Oh well, it could get worse. It's worse than this.
- 20:19Speaker 2: I mean, I like mess more than anybody. This is
- 20:22Speaker 2: a lot, even for me.
- 20:24Speaker 1: And what's interesting is I don't know people know this
- 20:27Speaker 1: Secret lives and Mormon Wise is a humongous show that
- 20:32Speaker 1: I heard that the ratings are enormously bigger than the Kardashians,
- 20:39Speaker 1: like wow, oh like like no baby, like the cicrelizes
- 20:44Speaker 1: of Mormon Wise is a huge show so much so
- 20:49Speaker 1: much so excuse me that I believe there was a
- 20:53Speaker 1: press release where it was revealed that it's like the
- 20:57Speaker 1: most watched show on Hulu. Is a really big show,
- 21:01Speaker 1: which is why as a producer. Again, I never watched
- 21:04Speaker 1: the show, so I want to understand all of the craziness.
- 21:07Speaker 1: I understood the moment they made Taylor a bachelorette. I said, oh,
- 21:11Speaker 1: this makes sense because if I'm reading things correctly, with
- 21:16Speaker 1: this show being the biggest show in the Hulu, ABC
- 21:19Speaker 1: and Hulu being partners, it makes sense to drive that audience,
- 21:25Speaker 1: especially that younger demographic. Because the Bachelorette is kind of archaic.
- 21:30Speaker 1: People aren't into it. The way they are The Bachelor,
- 21:33Speaker 1: no shade, So why not bring this polarizing figure from
- 21:37Speaker 1: our uber successful Hulu series onto The Bachelorette to drive
- 21:43Speaker 1: that audience?
- 21:44Speaker 2: So I understood that.
- 21:46Speaker 1: I also understood why even when production was halted last
- 21:52Speaker 1: week when this incident allegedly occurred, it was she was
- 21:58Speaker 1: still doing press. She was on Live with Kelly and Mark,
- 22:01Speaker 1: which is another Disney owned show, okay, and she avoided
- 22:07Speaker 1: the questions, and she was on I want to say
- 22:10Speaker 1: good morning America, okay, once again an ABC affiliate, So
- 22:17Speaker 1: rain job, y'all see what I'm saying. So and obviously
- 22:20Speaker 1: the way it works from upstairs, if they're allowing this
- 22:25Speaker 1: woman to still do press, they're going to keep it
- 22:27Speaker 1: in the house.
- 22:28Speaker 2: And trust me, they.
- 22:30Speaker 1: Are, like, you could ask her this question because this
- 22:33Speaker 1: will be her prepared response.
- 22:35Speaker 2: And that's it.
- 22:36Speaker 1: And then the next day is when this video was
- 22:40Speaker 1: leaked and me watching it again, not knowing this woman,
- 22:44Speaker 1: all I kept thinking about was that poor kid, who
- 22:46Speaker 1: is this woman? And immediately thought if that was a man,
- 22:51Speaker 1: it wouldn't even be a question of what to do.
- 22:54Speaker 1: Why do you think they waited so long, Jasmine to
- 22:58Speaker 1: pull the plug? On the Bachelor.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Rat because I think that you already hit the nail
- 23:05Speaker 3: on the head. The Bachelor and Bachelor is a dying franchise, right.
- 23:09Speaker 3: They are desperate at this point to keep to re
- 23:13Speaker 3: energize or reinvigorate that franchise, right, So they were hoping
- 23:17Speaker 3: that people would just get over this stuff with Taylor,
- 23:20Speaker 3: and so I think that's why they waited so long.
- 23:23Speaker 3: Once you have a video, once you have video proof,
- 23:26Speaker 3: now you cannot deny or you can't feign ignorance.
- 23:29Speaker 4: At this point, we've all seen it. It's much worse.
- 23:32Speaker 3: Like I said, we knew this back when it happens,
- 23:34Speaker 3: but seeing the video makes it much worse to actually
- 23:37Speaker 3: see her in action. And so I think ABC got
- 23:41Speaker 3: nervous about the backlash that they were receiving. I don't
- 23:44Speaker 3: know that it was like a moral decision on their end.
- 23:47Speaker 3: I think they just knew that the like us as
- 23:49Speaker 3: the viewing audience, are like, there's no way you could
- 23:51Speaker 3: still reward this woman and put her on the show.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Given an even bigger platform. The Bachelor is what one
- 23:56Speaker 3: of the biggest platforms you can get on television. Yeah,
- 24:00Speaker 3: audiences are not gonna go for that. So I think
- 24:02Speaker 3: they pulled the plug, and they waited so long because
- 24:04Speaker 3: they couldn't deny it after this video came.
- 24:07Speaker 1: Out, Honestly speaking, yes, if they did not pull the plug,
- 24:15Speaker 1: would you have still watched the Bachelorette.
- 24:19Speaker 3: No? No, And I'm I said this in the video.
- 24:23Speaker 3: I had decided, Like once I decided that I was
- 24:25Speaker 3: gonna tap out of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
- 24:28Speaker 3: this season, I also said, I'm probably not gonna watch
- 24:31Speaker 3: her season of the Bachelorette because, like I told you,
- 24:33Speaker 3: I never watched the Bachelorette before. I've only watched two
- 24:36Speaker 3: seasons of the bachelore and it was only because I
- 24:37Speaker 3: saw them on the Traders, Right, I'm not big in
- 24:40Speaker 3: Bachelor Nation, but I was like, Taylor is crazy, So
- 24:45Speaker 3: I was gonna tune into the season. But then as
- 24:46Speaker 3: I'm watching the first couple episodes of Mormon Wives, it's
- 24:49Speaker 3: so apparent that she's not over Dakota, like she's she's
- 24:52Speaker 3: talking about becoming the Bachelorette in these episodes, and it's
- 24:56Speaker 3: all it's just like, Oh, this is a great opportunity,
- 24:59Speaker 3: Like you know, I'm gonna do this because it's a
- 25:00Speaker 3: good opportunity. It's not like, oh, I really want to
- 25:02Speaker 3: find love, like I really am looking for my person.
- 25:04Speaker 3: It's like, this is a great opportunity. AKA, I'm getting
- 25:07Speaker 3: a fat ass check for this, so I'm gonna do it.
- 25:09Speaker 3: So like, yeah, I was watching that and I was like,
- 25:11Speaker 3: this girl is so hung up on Dakota. I know
- 25:14Speaker 3: with dating shows, for the most part, most of the
- 25:16Speaker 3: people going on them, they're just looking to catapult their
- 25:18Speaker 3: social media careers or whatever. They're looking for clout. But
- 25:21Speaker 3: I still need some.
- 25:21Speaker 4: Illusion that, like you could potentially fall in love with someone.
- 25:25Speaker 3: That illusion was shattered with miss Taylor Frankie Paul Okay
- 25:29Speaker 3: watching her and secretalize, I'm like, this bitch, she's going
- 25:32Speaker 3: on The Bachelor just to get a bigger social media platform,
- 25:34Speaker 3: but she's gonna come out of that show and go right.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Back to Dakota.
- 25:37Speaker 3: So I decided, like, there's no point in me watching
- 25:39Speaker 3: this because she's not even trying to fake it. She's
- 25:42Speaker 3: not even trying to act like she's looking for love.
- 25:45Speaker 3: And yeah, so I had already decided that I wasn't
- 25:48Speaker 3: gonna watch it before the video came out. And then
- 25:50Speaker 3: the video came out and I was like Yeah, if
- 25:52Speaker 3: they air this, that's crazy one and I definitely won't
- 25:55Speaker 3: be watching.
- 25:58Speaker 1: Who do you think leaked the video of this incident
- 26:02Speaker 1: that happened in twenty twenty three, three days before the
- 26:06Speaker 1: airing of the bath threat.
- 26:12Speaker 3: I want to say, I want to say maybe TMZ
- 26:15Speaker 3: went found it. I know they're quite litigious, so I
- 26:17Speaker 3: just that's my own guess. I know there's a lot
- 26:21Speaker 3: of speculation that maybe Dakota did it, or maybe Jordan,
- 26:25Speaker 3: who is the husband of another woman on Secret Lives
- 26:28Speaker 3: and Mormon Wives, that he could have potentially leaked it.
- 26:31Speaker 4: I think TMZ went.
- 26:32Speaker 3: And found it's public record, like literally any one of
- 26:35Speaker 3: us could have requested it and went to go get it.
- 26:38Speaker 3: But I'm like, I think I think TMZ. I think
- 26:40Speaker 3: the news broke about her this latest incident with Dakota
- 26:45Speaker 3: and her choking him. I think maybe somebody went and
- 26:49Speaker 3: started searching and wanted to get the video because it's
- 26:52Speaker 3: not it's not a like nobody had to give it
- 26:56Speaker 3: to you. You could go like it was entered into evidence,
- 26:59Speaker 3: so it's public records. So I think maybe somebody at
- 27:02Speaker 3: TENZ did it Bugin. That's just my own curiosity.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, listen, it's plausible because they broke it and listen.
- 27:12Speaker 1: The legend of TMZ is the fact that they have
- 27:17Speaker 1: relationships with people law enforcement that is not a secret.
- 27:21Speaker 1: They have a relationship with paparazzi, they have a relationship
- 27:24Speaker 1: with publicist celebrities. They are very much doalt into a
- 27:28Speaker 1: lot of systems. So I'm actually agreeing with you. I
- 27:31Speaker 1: don't think Dakota had this in his safe and decided
- 27:35Speaker 1: to do it this late in the game, because you
- 27:39Speaker 1: know it also could affect um. On of my questions
- 27:42Speaker 1: to do have for you, what do you think is
- 27:44Speaker 1: the future of this secret lives and warmer Wise, I
- 27:47Speaker 1: haven't watched the show. Can the show move forward without
- 27:52Speaker 1: Taylor being a part of it?
- 27:54Speaker 3: Or in their word, you're asking how like can mom
- 27:57Speaker 3: talk survive this? Because that's a huge thing they say
- 28:00Speaker 3: on the show. Can mom Talk survive this? I think
- 28:03Speaker 3: mom Talk is gonna take a huge hit. Taylor Frankie
- 28:05Speaker 3: Paul is undeniably the star of their show. I think
- 28:09Speaker 3: they can still have a show without her, though, I
- 28:12Speaker 3: think they need to put her on ice, Like, if
- 28:14Speaker 3: they're going to continue with this, they need to put
- 28:16Speaker 3: Taylor on ice and I think that will give some
- 28:19Speaker 3: of the other girls a chance to emerge as maybe
- 28:21Speaker 3: like the leader or the star of the show. I
- 28:23Speaker 3: think they're so eclipsed by Taylor and like everything that
- 28:26Speaker 3: comes with her, it's been hard for like another another
- 28:30Speaker 3: supreme to rise, right, so like another supreme needs to
- 28:32Speaker 3: rise now that the last one has fallen, And so
- 28:35Speaker 3: I think they can still move on with the show.
- 28:38Speaker 4: But do I think Taylor is coming back?
- 28:40Speaker 3: I don't know, because that's the other side of this
- 28:42Speaker 3: is like they pause production on this current season because
- 28:46Speaker 3: the girls no longer wanted to film with Taylor. And
- 28:50Speaker 3: allegedly there's a leaked audio from the zoom call that
- 28:53Speaker 3: ABC had. This this is all alleged, all legend there's
- 28:57Speaker 3: leaked audio from the zoom call that the girls have
- 29:00Speaker 3: with someone from ABC, and they were saying to him like,
- 29:04Speaker 3: we don't feel comfortable recording with her, and he's just
- 29:08Speaker 3: like okay. They're like, are you aware that she endangered
- 29:11Speaker 3: a child? And he says, I don't want to know
- 29:13Speaker 3: too much. So apparently I did not hear the audio. No,
- 29:19Speaker 3: I did not hear the audio. I read a couple
- 29:22Speaker 3: of different like news accounts have been reporting it for whatever,
- 29:26Speaker 3: I'm drawing a blank right now, but I'll send you
- 29:28Speaker 3: the ones that I saw. I think a couple of
- 29:30Speaker 3: like kind of reputable social media accounts who do like
- 29:33Speaker 3: reality TV news, have reported on this, so it's out there.
- 29:36Speaker 3: But I have not heard the audio on my own.
- 29:38Speaker 4: I have not. I have not, so I can't confirm
- 29:40Speaker 4: that that exists. But allegedly it is out there.
- 29:43Speaker 3: And he said like basically like I don't want to
- 29:45Speaker 3: know too much about her transgressions. It's like what plausible deniability, right,
- 29:51Speaker 3: That's what that's called. Yeah, so apparently that's it. But yeah,
- 29:55Speaker 3: I think they can still move forward. I think they
- 29:57Speaker 3: can still have a show, but yeah, they are definitely
- 30:01Speaker 3: going to have to put Taylor on ice for at
- 30:03Speaker 3: least a season or two after.
- 30:05Speaker 2: This rain Jobs. You heard it her first.
- 30:08Speaker 1: I mean, this was a great breakdown based on what's happening,
- 30:12Speaker 1: and you know it's I'm still processing everything you're say
- 30:19Speaker 1: because I literally walk into this conversation not knowing anything,
- 30:24Speaker 1: and again, I wanted to be present and receive everything
- 30:28Speaker 1: you were saying to me. My last question is do
- 30:31Speaker 1: we know where the children are? Does she still have custody?
- 30:37Speaker 1: Of the kids. Is that something that is still something
- 30:41Speaker 1: that she has.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I haven't seen any reports on the status of the children,
- 30:46Speaker 3: so I don't know if she has them. Like I said,
- 30:48Speaker 3: she has two children by her ex husband and one
- 30:50Speaker 3: child by Dakota. I do not I haven't seen anything
- 30:53Speaker 3: any reports on where the children are.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Okay, all right, one more last question said, who Jasmin
- 31:01Speaker 1: Hilly Brown like to see as the new Bachelorett. You
- 31:06Speaker 1: know we're not gonna see Taylor possibly ever.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Yeah, so who would you like to see?
- 31:13Speaker 3: Ooh, Sierra Miller from Summerhouse. I've been seeing people throw
- 31:17Speaker 3: her name out. I think she would be She would actually,
- 31:20Speaker 3: to me be like one of the best choices if
- 31:22Speaker 3: they wanted to go like another reality TV star. I've
- 31:27Speaker 3: been seeing people talk about like this other You know
- 31:29Speaker 3: how they usually choose a bachelorette. It is like a
- 31:30Speaker 3: girl from the last season of The Bachelor. So there's
- 31:34Speaker 3: a girl named Maria who was on Joey's season. She
- 31:37Speaker 3: was approached to be the Bachelor at following that season,
- 31:41Speaker 3: but she said no. I would love it if they
- 31:42Speaker 3: asked Maria again and like she would say yes this time.
- 31:45Speaker 3: I would love to see her I don't know if
- 31:48Speaker 3: Alex Cooper call her daddy. I don't know if she
- 31:51Speaker 3: has a man, but like I.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Do, Oh my bad girl, she's married. He's her manager.
- 32:03Speaker 4: Oh super my bad girl.
- 32:06Speaker 3: Oh damn, I'm never gonna get invited to one of
- 32:09Speaker 3: your events.
- 32:09Speaker 4: Then darn it. Sorry husbands.
- 32:16Speaker 3: And then one more Janey Craig from Love Island USA
- 32:20Speaker 3: season six.
- 32:21Speaker 1: She I mean, I've been seeing her name throw throwing around,
- 32:25Speaker 1: and I know you are a Love Island above two. Yeah,
- 32:28Speaker 1: So if I have to choose, it would be Chloe Kardashian.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Keep begiving a hulo ABC Family.
- 32:38Speaker 1: You know Chloe, you know has an infinity for black
- 32:43Speaker 1: Man too, so you know, like we can see some
- 32:47Speaker 1: different cultures on the show, and we're rooting for Chloe
- 32:51Speaker 1: to find love just based on her experience with lamar Odom.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Fridge Montana.
- 32:58Speaker 4: But she she likes do you like to know a
- 33:00Speaker 4: little bit of coin?
- 33:01Speaker 3: So I don't know if the bachelor pool, the bachelorette
- 33:04Speaker 3: pool has enough funds for Miss Chloe kardash I don't know.
- 33:09Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I think we need to it
- 33:12Speaker 1: will be dope though, dash to have a few men
- 33:16Speaker 1: of means or celebrity to sort of offset the dating pool.
- 33:21Speaker 1: But I think Chloe Kardashian I would just watch it.
- 33:25Speaker 1: She's so likable, and again we're rooting for her. We've
- 33:28Speaker 1: seen the pain she had with her her last relationship,
- 33:31Speaker 1: which was with Tristan, and to see like her sisters
- 33:35Speaker 1: and mom and Malika Kadej just make appearances.
- 33:38Speaker 2: I think it's a step in the right direction.
- 33:41Speaker 1: So Chris Jenner and Rob Mills who runs ABC, who
- 33:45Speaker 1: Little Unscripted.
- 33:48Speaker 2: I don't need no credit. I'm a fan, and just
- 33:51Speaker 2: make us happy.
- 33:52Speaker 1: But I think Chloe Kardashian is the only way you
- 33:54Speaker 1: can resurrect this franchise.
- 33:57Speaker 3: And if they do get Chloe Kardashian for the Bachelorette,
- 34:00Speaker 3: even though you don't need credit, they're gonna have to
- 34:02Speaker 3: send her over to Reality with the King to do
- 34:04Speaker 3: the sit down interview about becoming a bachelorette. So that
- 34:08Speaker 3: is the credit they can pay. Because I know Chris,
- 34:12Speaker 3: she's already on the phone. She's already on them nine phones.
- 34:15Speaker 3: She has, Hey, who do we need to talk? Yeah,
- 34:18Speaker 3: just just run Chloe over to Reality with the King
- 34:21Speaker 3: to sit down. Matter of fact, Carlos Carlos will go
- 34:24Speaker 3: to Chloe's home. They can do the interview in Chloe's home, in.
- 34:27Speaker 2: Her pantry and her pantry.
- 34:32Speaker 1: That it happened. All well, Jazz been listed. It's always
- 34:37Speaker 1: good talking to you. It's always good when you hop
- 34:40Speaker 1: on reality with the King. Let the rain drops know
- 34:43Speaker 1: once again how they can find you, follow you and
- 34:46Speaker 1: support you.
- 34:47Speaker 3: Yes, I am at Jay Henley Brown on all platforms.
- 34:50Speaker 3: That's also where you can find my YouTube channel. I
- 34:53Speaker 3: host two series on their. One is called The Queue
- 34:56Speaker 3: where I sit down with our favorite actors in reality
- 34:58Speaker 3: TV starts to talk to them about what they wan
- 35:00Speaker 3: to watch when they're not on screen. And then my
- 35:02Speaker 3: other series is cal Channel Surface like my corner of
- 35:04Speaker 3: the Internet for pop culture, TV reviews general, just like
- 35:08Speaker 3: conversations about like internet culture and yeah, I'm dropping shit,
- 35:12Speaker 3: I don't know, two three, four times a week of
- 35:15Speaker 3: around YouTube. So you will always be fed if you
- 35:17Speaker 3: go over there and subscribe to me. But yeah, ja
- 35:19Speaker 3: Hai Lee Brown on all of the other social platforms as.
- 35:22Speaker 1: Well, And I just want to add to you to
- 35:25Speaker 1: Jazz and rain jobs. She talks about a myriad of shows,
- 35:30Speaker 1: whether it's Housewives, whether it's maritime medicine, Netflix show Love.
- 35:35Speaker 4: Is Blind, scripted stuff.
- 35:37Speaker 2: Scripted shows, movies as well. You're you're also talking about
- 35:43Speaker 2: Paradise on Lulu.
- 35:46Speaker 1: So again, if even if you don't love reality, really
- 35:53Speaker 1: check out Jasmine because she does a great job talking
- 35:56Speaker 1: about the scripted world in the scripted space.
- 35:58Speaker 2: And she.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Speak to actors too, So it's a well divers channel
- 36:08Speaker 1: where I feel like you're doing something that no one
- 36:10Speaker 1: else is doing, and that's.
- 36:12Speaker 2: Cornering the market in various places.
- 36:15Speaker 1: So I'm so proud of you, as you know, I'm
- 36:17Speaker 1: obviously if you need anything miss thing from you.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Now do your thing. You're cornering a market that no
- 36:25Speaker 2: one is doing.
- 36:26Speaker 1: Listen, I'm sticking to reality, but that's my whille house
- 36:28Speaker 1: and I love it so much.
- 36:29Speaker 2: I'm the king of it.
- 36:30Speaker 1: But seeing how you're tapping into other markets is super
- 36:33Speaker 1: smart and you're doing.
- 36:35Speaker 2: It because you love it.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Yes, when I watch you, you love it.
- 36:41Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
- 36:43Speaker 1: You are into it, So watch it and I'll let
- 36:49Speaker 1: you know. After I watched Scream seven, should I watch it?
- 36:56Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh absolutely, And it's still playing in theaters. If
- 37:00Speaker 3: it's still playing in theaters, take your ass to the
- 37:02Speaker 3: movie theaters to see it, because I'm also a huge
- 37:04Speaker 3: advocate for movie theaters. Say the theaters, so yes, if
- 37:06Speaker 3: it's still playing in the theater near you go see it.
- 37:09Speaker 3: It's Scream, so you're gonna have fun. It's just there's
- 37:11Speaker 3: a there's a part in it where I'm just like,
- 37:14Speaker 3: I'm so disappointed, but I'm still I'm sticking with that ship.
- 37:16Speaker 3: I don't care Scream one hundred.
- 37:18Speaker 4: I'm gonna be my old.
- 37:19Speaker 3: Ass in the theater with my gray hair and my
- 37:21Speaker 3: great grandchildren watching Sydney get chased by a I gos face.
- 37:25Speaker 2: I don't well, thank you, Jess. I love you, sister,
- 37:31Speaker 2: and you and I see you soon.
- 37:36Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, yes