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Tammy Hembrow Breaks Down & Ashy Bines' Candid Confession · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembrough's
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  Speaker 1: online breakdown as she's spotted on a second date with
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  Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. As she binds, opens up about her husband's
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  Speaker 1: drinking problem and Sarah's day's secret project. But first, Cartier
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  Speaker 1: Milan has jumped on the I'm just a girl TikTok
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  Speaker 1: trend and shared a recent relatable mishap. She told her
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  Speaker 1: followers it's the most fucking stupid pointless activity that she's
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  Speaker 1: put herself through in a long time.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big call, but I think she may be correct.
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  Speaker 2: So earlier in the year, the Australian influencer who now
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  Speaker 2: resides in the UK decided she wanted to leave London
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  Speaker 2: because she, quote, hated it. So despite loving her rental,
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  Speaker 2: she ended up cutting a lease a year early. However,
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  Speaker 2: by the time her moving date came around, She decided
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  Speaker 2: that she didn't want to go. And of course, she
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  Speaker 2: made the revelation just as a landlord found new tenants
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  Speaker 2: to move in. So it turns out that luckily for Katia,
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  Speaker 2: the house next door was up for rent. So she's
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  Speaker 2: now in the process of moving all her belongings next door.
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  Speaker 2: And the way the house is designed, she showed herself
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  Speaker 2: moving boxes across the balcony.
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  Speaker 1: This just sounds like a complete head fuck. I cannot
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  Speaker 1: imagine having to pack up all of my belongings to
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  Speaker 1: move them literally next door.
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  Speaker 2: If I was her, I would have suggested to the landlord, oh,
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  Speaker 2: could you get the new tenants that are moving in
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  Speaker 2: here just to move next door instead so I don't
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  Speaker 2: actually have to move?
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's just some bullshit paperwork that stopped it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it turns out she was the one delaying the
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  Speaker 2: whole process because she was meant to move out in May.
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  Speaker 2: but extended her lease a little bit more. And that's
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  Speaker 2: when they found the new tenant. So it was just
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  Speaker 2: really bad timing. Apparently the new place has got a bath,
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  Speaker 2: which is a bit of an upgrade from the other
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  Speaker 2: one at least.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's worth moving your whole life
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  Speaker 1: from one house to the other for the bath though.
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  Speaker 3: I can't wait to show you guys. And I'm not
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  Speaker 3: trying to be annoying and like something's coming, like guess what?
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  Speaker 3: But I just want to wait till it's all done
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  Speaker 3: before I reveal everything. But I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah's day has revealed she's in the midst of major
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  Speaker 1: change in her life. The OG fitness influencer shared she's
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  Speaker 1: working on a secret project as well as waiting and
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  Speaker 1: praying on another big opportunity. The updates come off the
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  Speaker 1: back of Sarah dramatically losing her partnership with Australian perfume
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  Speaker 1: house Who Is Elijah.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like Sarah has been scrambling to prove her
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  Speaker 2: worth ever since she got sensationally dumped by Who Is Elijah.
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  Speaker 2: And last week she made a really big deal on
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  Speaker 2: an Instagram story about how she was going above and
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  Speaker 2: beyond for a photo shoot with the electrolyte company that
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  Speaker 2: she's invested in. She's also been teasing that she's working
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  Speaker 2: on a second cookbook, sharing a lot of vision of
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  Speaker 2: her photographing food and testing recipes. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: really hit a nerve and she's trying to say, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I've got all of these projects on
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  Speaker 2: the go. That is exactly how it's coming across. And
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  Speaker 2: on Wednesday last week, she revealed on her Instagram story
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  Speaker 2: that she was feeling a mixture of excitement, overwhelm and nervousness.
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  Speaker 2: So she was vlogging from her car when she said this.
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  Speaker 3: There is so much happening in my life at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: And remember a few vlogs ago, I think it was
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  Speaker 3: like a month ago, I've been so bad at vlogging.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I think Kurt and I were sitting together
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  Speaker 3: and we said, we just feel like there's a change
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  Speaker 3: in the air. And truly, we didn't know what that was,
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  Speaker 3: whether it was like family, lifestyle, work, no more babies.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah went on to say that there were two major
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  Speaker 1: things going on. One of them she still doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: clarity on, but she said she was praying and waiting
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  Speaker 1: until she felt 100% that it was the right direction.
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  Speaker 1: As for the other, Sarah dropped that a secret project
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  Speaker 1: that she's been working on for the last few months
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  Speaker 1: was fully coming to fruition. Now, Sarah was quite coy
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  Speaker 1: on the details, but she did reveal that she was
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  Speaker 1: inspired to create something after feeling like she'd lost her
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  Speaker 1: sense of self and her cup was empty. Now, she's
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  Speaker 1: been talking about this quite a lot ever since having
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  Speaker 1: her son Harlow 10 months ago. So she said, the
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  Speaker 1: fact I've worked on this and designed it in a
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  Speaker 1: way that is going to make me feel so full
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  Speaker 1: in every sense and I don't have to pause motherhood.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of days later, she also shared a screenshot
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  Speaker 2: of her computer. And I feel like whenever she does this,
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  Speaker 2: everyone zooms in because in the past, her pregnancy announcement
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  Speaker 2: was actually spoiled because she had a messenger screen up
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  Speaker 2: that said she was telling someone that she was pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: So that's exactly what I did. I screenshot it and
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  Speaker 2: zoomed in and I could see the title. And I
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  Speaker 2: think there's a dollar sign in front of it. The
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  Speaker 2: other words I could definitely read were 60 challenge. So
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit anticlimactic, but it seems like she's
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  Speaker 2: doing some sort of fitness challenge because she wrote, haven't
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  Speaker 2: been this inspired in a really long time. I cannot
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  Speaker 2: wait to share this with you because this is what
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  Speaker 2: I need. Designing it for my fellow girls who need
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  Speaker 2: to fill their cup, have fallen into habitual routines that
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  Speaker 2: don't serve you, need to commit to something and can
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  Speaker 2: lean on a community to keep you accountable.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as you said, those clues really point to it
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  Speaker 1: being a fitness challenge. I mean, it's more on brand
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  Speaker 1: for her to be releasing something like this. I thought
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  Speaker 1: the perfume was always a bit odd. And it's also 100%
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  Speaker 1: cash to her. I'm wondering if she's playing on the
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  Speaker 1: whole 75 hard challenge that is going around social media
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  Speaker 1: at the moment. People have done their own spin on
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  Speaker 1: it and done 75 soft. Well, whatever it is, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure it's going to be some kind of toxic fitness
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  Speaker 1: challenge that's packaged up to be some kind of inspiring
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  Speaker 1: thing for mothers.
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  Speaker 2: We've been seeing a lot of that recently online. The
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  Speaker 2: timing's a bit weird though, because she's only just recently
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  Speaker 2: launched her postpartum fitness guides and she took years and
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  Speaker 2: years to get them out. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, oh, I've got more time. I might
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  Speaker 2: try and flog another one off a quick 60 day
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  Speaker 2: challenge that suits everyone else, just not mothers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: she spoke a lot about filling up your cup, but
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  Speaker 2: she did specify that it wouldn't just be something for mums.
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  Speaker 2: It was for everyone looking to do that. And on Friday,
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  Speaker 2: Sarah decided to drop some more clues. So she filmed
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  Speaker 2: herself in a meeting with her graphic designer. And in it,
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  Speaker 2: she did not hold back. It was quite uncomfortable to watch.
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  Speaker 2: She was really happy to tell the graphic designer what
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  Speaker 2: she didn't like. Let's throw to some of the audio.
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  Speaker 3: That whole thing because I don't like the font.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the colors. I hate a gradient. You
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  Speaker 2: know I hate a gradient.
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  Speaker 1: What about the font do you not like?
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  Speaker 3: It just looks boring. Like it's too tall.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't like it. It looks like hospitality to me.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't look strong and like energetic and athletic.
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  Speaker 1: Slant the six or something. Too soft of a color?
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  Speaker 4: Does it need to be a little bit more electric feeling?
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  Speaker 2: No, no. I think it's electric enough.
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  Speaker 3: It's a nice.
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  Speaker 2: Is it doable like this?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: I think colors.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you doing the pink to me, Jared?
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  Speaker 1: Purple.
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  Speaker 2: I'm allergic to purple.
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  Speaker 5: I am.
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  Speaker 2: I like break out into colors.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: When I first saw the video, I just was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: she was so rude to the graphic designer. But then
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know what? It's actually super helpful when
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  Speaker 1: someone is that direct about what they want. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know how you could watch that back
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  Speaker 2: and think, oh yeah, I think I'll post that up
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  Speaker 2: as a reflection of what I acted like in a meeting.
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  Speaker 1: But so many people were commenting on TikTok saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm also allergic to purple.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting to see how Sarah rolls out this
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  Speaker 2: next project because I feel like we've seen a lot
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  Speaker 2: of influencers move away from the whole secret project strategy
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  Speaker 2: side of thing and just share what they're doing. But
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  Speaker 2: I think Sarah really got burnt with being so open
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  Speaker 2: about her partnership with Who Is Elijah? And I'd love
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  Speaker 2: to know how she's feeling about it all because the
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  Speaker 2: co-founder of Who Is Elijah, Raquel Boris, put up a
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  Speaker 2: question box on her Instagram story. asking for people to
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  Speaker 2: nominate themselves to be an ambassador for them. So she wrote,
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  Speaker 2: who is Elijah is looking for the best of the
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  Speaker 2: best social media girlies. Do you have amazing experience, live
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  Speaker 2: and breathe socials, love content and creation? Sarah would be
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  Speaker 2: absolutely fuming because they claim that they didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: capacity to do an ambassadorship with her.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how many of her friends she's got to
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  Speaker 1: message in saying her name.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's quite awkward because Ellie Watson, who Sarah has
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  Speaker 2: had on a podcast before, so I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: they're actually friends, but I know Sarah draws a lot
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  Speaker 2: of inspiration from Ellie. She put up a story thanking
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  Speaker 2: Who Is Elijah for a PR package they sent her.
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  Speaker 2: So potentially she may be on their list. And that
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  Speaker 2: would be such a slap in the face for Sarah,
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  Speaker 2: because if you put them both on paper... They're very similar.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just wonder, are they actually looking for an
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  Speaker 1: influencer to be an ambassador or are they asking their
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  Speaker 1: customer base to put themselves forward to be part of
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  Speaker 1: a campaign?
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  Speaker 2: When I saw this question box go out, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: it must have been a budget thing as to why
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  Speaker 2: they cut Sarah's Day because Sarah's Day, she's a massive influencer.
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  Speaker 2: She's got over a million followers. She would demand a
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  Speaker 2: pretty big salary for being an ambassador for Who Is Elijah?
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  Speaker 2: Whereas if you put it out to the community, you're
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  Speaker 2: almost asking people to apply for the role and you
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  Speaker 2: take any hand away that they have. So there's not
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  Speaker 2: much bargaining room if they're actually putting themselves forward.
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  Speaker 1: See, I don't know if it was just a budgeting thing,
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  Speaker 1: but I think maybe it was more so the brand
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  Speaker 1: looked at these type of partnerships with huge influencers and
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  Speaker 1: thought they're a bit tone deaf. And that's why maybe
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  Speaker 1: they're reaching out to members of their own community to
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  Speaker 1: be the face of their perfume brand instead.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't think they're necessarily looking for just a
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  Speaker 2: member of the general public. I think they're looking for
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  Speaker 2: that tier of influencer who is competing against a lot
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  Speaker 2: of others for brand deals. and is probably quite desperate
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  Speaker 2: and may just take product or a smaller amount of money.
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  Speaker 5: It honestly feels so weird, like, posting that video that
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  Speaker 5: I just posted.
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  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough has given fans a glimpse into her emotional
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  Speaker 1: state during her short marriage to Matt Sikowsky. Over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: the OG fitness influencer uploaded a montage of old clips
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  Speaker 1: of her crying uncontrollably with her wedding rings in full sight.
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  Speaker 1: The video comes a week after she was spotted on
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  Speaker 1: a date with Geelong star Bailey Smith.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Amy, but I found it
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  Speaker 2: so difficult to watch the montage of clips because they
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  Speaker 2: were so raw. It felt like something we shouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very uncomfortable. And for those who haven't
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  Speaker 1: seen it, the video was set to the song To
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  Speaker 1: Build a Home by the Cinematic Orchestra. So the video
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  Speaker 1: opened with text which read, it felt like the heaviness
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  Speaker 1: would never end.
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  Speaker 2: Tammy then went on to share numerous clips of her
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  Speaker 2: breaking down. So in one clip, she showed her hand
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  Speaker 2: uncontrollably shaking. While in another, she was rolling around on
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  Speaker 2: the floor, banging her hand on the ground. And in
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  Speaker 2: another scene, Tammy was uncontrollably crying while brushing her hair.
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  Speaker 2: And following the montage of sad clips, the video then
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  Speaker 2: transitioned to happier clips of Tammy with her kids and
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  Speaker 2: friends enjoying life with the text that said, but then
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  Speaker 2: I noticed the light creeping back in.
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  Speaker 1: So in the caption, Tammy wrote, I made this so
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  Speaker 1: long ago and honestly never thought I'd share it. Watching
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  Speaker 1: it back makes me genuinely feel ill. But with everything
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  Speaker 1: happening right now, if there was ever a time to
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  Speaker 1: share it, it's now. I'm posting this for the person
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  Speaker 1: who feels like they're drowning the way I once did,
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  Speaker 1: the person who can't see a way forward. I want
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  Speaker 1: you to know it does get better, I promise you.
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  Speaker 1: Some traumas shake you so deeply they change the way
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  Speaker 1: you see literally everything, the world, the people around you,
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  Speaker 1: and even yourself. But little by little, the light comes back.
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  Speaker 1: No one else knows your whole story. No one has
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  Speaker 1: felt what you felt, seen what you've seen or carried
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  Speaker 1: what you've carried. This is your life, your journey, but
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  Speaker 1: you are not alone in it. One day you'll look
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  Speaker 1: back and realize you survived what you thought would break you.
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  Speaker 2: Now, my initial thought when I watched the video was,
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  Speaker 2: how does someone capture themselves crying genuinely? And someone had
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  Speaker 2: the exact same thought as me. So they wrote under
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  Speaker 2: Tammy's video on Instagram, Just curious, do you cry first,
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  Speaker 2: then film or set up the camera and then cry?
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  Speaker 2: Tammy ended up replying to the comment saying, these were
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  Speaker 2: actually just videos of me talking that I sent to
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  Speaker 2: my sis that were never intended to see the light
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  Speaker 2: of day. Hope this helps. Tammy's sister, Amy, added her
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  Speaker 2: own insight in the comments, writing, my heart was breaking
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  Speaker 2: for you during this time. This brought me to tears. Now, Amy,
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  Speaker 2: we've been through a lot together over the last 36 years.
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  Speaker 2: But I've never received a video of you breaking down
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  Speaker 2: and crying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't really send videos like this. Like
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who send voice notes
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  Speaker 1: to one another. I mean, this is taking it a
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  Speaker 1: step further, actually videoing yourself and sending them as messages.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that Tammy actually clarified that these are videos
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  Speaker 1: she was sending her sister because I find it so odd.
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  Speaker 1: that people will be crying at home and their first
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  Speaker 1: thought is, oh, I'm going to whip out my phone
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  Speaker 1: and start filming this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It always seems very performative when influencers share videos of
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  Speaker 2: themselves crying. So I'm glad she provided that further context.
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose I'm here saying, oh, well, I've never
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  Speaker 2: received a video of you crying and talking to the camera,
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  Speaker 2: but we're not influencers. And I think talking to the
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  Speaker 2: camera is just second nature to them. So it kind
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  Speaker 2: of makes sense that this is how Tammy would communicate
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  Speaker 2: with her sisters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, that's the other thing. Like I don't
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  Speaker 1: whip my phone out and film my whole day. So
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  Speaker 1: for some influencers, maybe it does make sense to think, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to tear up. Let's bring the camera out
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  Speaker 1: and capture this. I mean, I think some people film
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  Speaker 1: themselves crying because they think it's really authentic and it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like they're trying to prove to their audience. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't just have great times. Here I am also sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be my least favorite type of content
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  Speaker 2: and influencer shares. And I'm going to be quite brutal
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  Speaker 2: here and I'm sorry if anyone actually does film themselves crying,
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  Speaker 2: but whenever I see that type of content, I just
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  Speaker 2: think to myself, oh my God, are you a narcissist?
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  Speaker 2: Because like the fact that you've set the camera up,
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  Speaker 2: filmed yourself and reviewed it and then thought, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to post that on my story. I look good
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  Speaker 2: crying because whenever I've seen myself crying and I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to think when that would be because I don't film it.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, when you see yourself in the mirror
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  Speaker 2: and you've just had a cry, I'm like, I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm an ugly crier. I mean, Kim Kardashian is the
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  Speaker 2: most famous ugly cry that there is.
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  Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you cry, your eyes go a
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  Speaker 1: really bright colour.
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  Speaker 2: Some people's eyes look really good when they're crying. Those
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  Speaker 2: are the ones that are posting it on social media. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you're right.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many steps to it. So it's not only
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  Speaker 1: you just taking your phone out to film it. You're
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  Speaker 1: then reviewing it. You're then putting it up. You're loading
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  Speaker 1: it onto Instagram or TikTok and then having to push publish.
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  Speaker 2: And then also selecting like emotive music and like the
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  Speaker 2: caption to... Anyway, Tammy ended up jumping on her story
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  Speaker 2: to provide further clarity around why she decided to post
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  Speaker 2: the video and how she actually got the shot. This
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  Speaker 2: is what she said.
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  Speaker 5: I made it and it was just like too much
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  Speaker 5: for me.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, I'm not like going to post it.
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  Speaker 5: Like I made it so long ago, but, um, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's out there now, and I just know that, like,
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  Speaker 5: when I was going through it, videos like that helped
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  Speaker 5: me so much.
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  Speaker 2: So if I can, like, do.
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  Speaker 5: That for one person, then that's all I want. But also,
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  Speaker 5: I don't usually, like, just film myself crying mid-breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: Bye-bye!
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't usually film myself mid-breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: Most of those videos, I.
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  Speaker 5: Was actually talking in them and sending to my sister.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, I never want to look at any of those
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: videos ever again. So I hope everyone.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: Has a good day. Tammy has just given a real
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: insight into her TikTok algorithm. She must have been deep
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: in breakup TikTok for videos of people filming themselves crying.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: to be penetrating her feet so much.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Those sort of videos just make me feel uncomfortable.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Like I would never sit back and go, oh, this
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: is making me feel better.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: To be fair, I haven't gone through a breakup since
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: TikTok has been a thing. So maybe that really would
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: have hit a note with me if I'd been in
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: the breakup trenches.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe we're just emotionally inept. Maybe it's us.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true. I think that could be it also.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear that Tammy had a lot of
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: support from the influencer community because beloved TikTok chef and
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: former makeup guru, Michael Finch, Comment it under Tammy's video. Oh, babe,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the shaking. Love you.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: It's funny because when I was putting together the deep
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: dive on Tammy Hembrough, I watched a lot of Tammy's
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: old YouTube videos and Michael Finch actually popped up on
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: one in around 2018 when he was at his height
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: of his makeup guru fame. And he was actually in
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: attendance with Shani Grimman at Emily Hembrough's gender reveal.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's so weird. I didn't even place those two
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: together as being friends. I mean, it makes sense them
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: both being in Queensland.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: On the Gold Coast. Talking about Gold Coast influencers, former
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Big Brother contestant and also friend of Michael Finch, Sky
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Wheatley added, this makes me cry, strongest, most independent woman.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I've got to correct you, Kate, former friend of Michael Finch.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I forgot that they weren't friends anymore. That's really sad.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I love seeing them together.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Well, OG influencer Cartier Milan also wrote, I love you,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. But there was one comment
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: that raised eyebrows and it was from controversial OnlyFans star
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Anna Paul who wrote, happiness always comes back.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I feel like that was more of a self-serving comment
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: from Anna Paul. It was kind of like, I'm going
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: to insert myself into this internet drama and kind of
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: make people feel a bit sorry for me as well.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she's just glad that Tammy Hembrough
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: has taken a bit of the heat off her. Yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest influencer story at the start of
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: 2025 was Anna Paul. We're now in the Tammy Hembrough era.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I wonder what's going to happen for the next couple
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: of months of the year.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I think the Tammy drama is just going to continue
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: until Christmas time, to be honest. Mm-hmm.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I personally found the timing of Tammy's video very interesting
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: because it appears to be in direct response to the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: claims Matt Zukowski made on his podcast on Thursday. So
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: in that episode, Matt really painted a picture that he
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: was the one that was unhappy in the marriage. He
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: claimed he was the one that ended things with Tammy
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and it was all for his mental health. Tammy's then gone,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: hold my beer, Matthew, and given a real insight into
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just how she was feeling during her marriage. And it
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: makes me think she's sick of Matt trying to play
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the victim and control the narrative.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Well, it's obviously getting nasty because we spoke a few
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: weeks ago about how the lawyers have become involved. So
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I think the gloves are off for Tammy Hembrough. We've
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: seen it in how she's lording her new relationship with
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Bailey Smith. Things are getting nasty.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people think that the photo was
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a set up pap shot. Tammy has also managed to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: combat Matt's claims that they only broke up eight weeks ago.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Because she made such a big point of saying that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: this video was made so long ago and she didn't
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: think that she was going to share it. So it's
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: really clear that she wants people to know that this
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: relationship was done for a while before she moved on
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: with Bailey Smith. She's saying, look, it wasn't too quickly
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: as Matt claimed. And late last week, Tammy's best friend,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Isabel Laws, also hit back at Matt's claim that Tammy
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: had blindsided him by moving on after eight weeks. So
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: under the Geelong Advertiser's coverage of Tammy and Bailey, she wrote,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: eight weeks is crazy with the laughing face emoji. Closer
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: to six months, laugh out loud. Now, six months would
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: make the breakup mid-February. To put that into perspective, the
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: couple only got married at the end of November and
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: got back from their honeymoon late December. So that is
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a very quick turnaround.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the honeymoon period literally ended after the honeymoon.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're all witnessing at the moment
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a masterclass in how Tammy has managed to attract 20
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: million social media followers and keep them entertained because she
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: is super strategic with the content that she is posting
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: at the moment.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: So you don't think that she's actually posting this to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: help others? You think, no, this is just to get
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: at Matt?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, it is completely to shut down what Matt said
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: on his podcast and also to the media. She had
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: this video ready to go in her bag of tricks
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: to shift public sentiment when it was needed.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's been able to cleverly reposition herself as a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: victim again because Matt was really trying to pose as
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: the victim last week during his podcast.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I predict Matt will hit back on his podcast
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, which will get delayed till Thursday and I'll
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: be like, when is this coming out? I need to
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: hear it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Now, amongst all of the online chaos, Tammy and Bailey
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: have still managed to find time to have a second date.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And this was on Friday. So they were spotted walking
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: with their arms around each other at a beach on
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: the Gold Coast. One onlooker filmed the new couple and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: sent it into Instagram watchdog account Influencer They told the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Instagram account they pulled up together in her car, got
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: coffee and went for a walk, then drove off with
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: him driving her car.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: All I could think of was how the hell has
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Bailey Smith got approved time off from his football club
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to fly from Melbourne to the Gold Coast to go
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: on a date? He had a game on Sunday. in Sydney.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I just love though, that the Bailey Smith factor has
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: brought all of these other commentators into the world of
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough, because I saw someone shared in our group
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that former Carlton player and Big Brother contestant, Daniel Gorringe,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: he put up this hilarious TikTok video. So there was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a photo of Tammy and Bailey making out at some
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: restaurant that someone had taken. And in the side of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the photo, you can see another diner's plate and their
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: steak and chips were absolutely swimming in gravy. And all
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: he could do was comment on this plate of food.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It was fucking hilarious.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: It is funny seeing the footy commentators weigh in. What
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I didn't like, and I didn't even want to talk
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: about it on this podcast, but there is a community
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: coach in Western Australia that's been sacked for saying the
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: most vile thing about Tammy. I'm not even going to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: repeat it because it's so offensive.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I saw this in a headline and I was like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: I am shocked that they have put this term. In
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the headline.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It seems like the headline created confusion for some because
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: we're going to actually basically have to say what this
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: guy said in order to give this story justice. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: there was a word used and it was a C word,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: but it's not your regular C word that people bleep out.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: It was more of a disgusting sexual term.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't see you next Tuesday?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. But my mum thought it was the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: C word. And my mum said, well, what is a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: C-U-N-T bucket? And I was like, mum, it's a different word.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: What's that movie where they pronounce it coom-e? Those tween boys, yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: I felt like alcohol always just kind of came. It
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: was like this invisible wedge.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: It wasn't invisible.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: It's like a wedge between us. Ashy Bynes has revealed
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that her husband's drinking problem almost broke up their marriage.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: The OG fitness influencer made the candid confession during an
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: episode of her podcast, She Rises.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I have to admit, I usually find it quite difficult
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to get through Ashy's podcast. I'm really not their target
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: market when it comes to listening about self-help and toxic positivity.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: But I was hooked to this episode. So Ashley had
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: her husband, Steve Evans, on the podcast to reflect on
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: their 17 years together. Can you believe they've been together
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: that long? And they really didn't hold back. So for
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: full transparency, back in the day, I was more Team
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Kayla than I was Team Ashley. I never did the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: workout guide, but I definitely knew who she was though.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: But I wasn't familiar so much with her backstory. So
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: I found it pretty interesting when Ashi was reminiscing about
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: how she first met Steve. So she was only 19
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: at the time and he was 28. And it turns
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: out that he reached out to her on Facebook of
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: all places. And they chatted for a few months before
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: meeting up in person. And she said when she first
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: saw him, she knew he was the one. Now, Ashi
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: often gushes about Steve online. In the past, she's called
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: him her knight in shining armor. And the podcast was
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: even entitled The Man Who Believed in Me Before I Did.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And this is because Steve was the one who introduced
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Ashi to the fitness world. He was a personal trainer
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: for 10 years before he met Ashi. And Ashi ended
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: up actually falling in love with fitness by taking one
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: of his boot camps. And then they built Ashi's fitness
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: empire together. And it was interesting to hear Ashi talk
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: not so glowingly about Steve on her podcast, particularly when
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: they spoke about their hardest times together as a couple.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Let's throw to what Steve said.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: In the relationship, it's definitely been my drinking. It's caused
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of, I guess, trust issues because, you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: I've withheld. And just the drinking is very triggering in general.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: No one likes the person they are when they're drunk, but,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: you know, it didn't serve our relationship at all. But
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: happy to say, you know, I haven't had a drink for.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Nearly a year.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: So Ashley went on to explain that she found Steve's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: issues with alcohol really triggering. And this is because Ashley
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: grew up with an alcoholic stepfather who was also very abusive.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: So Ashley said that a lot of her and Steve's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: fights would centre around alcohol and it got so bad
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that their relationship coach told them to break up.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty big deal for a relationship
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: coach to be like, actually, I can't help you. I quit. Yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to surrender being paid to help you. You
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: need to go your separate ways. Despite this advice, though,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Ashley and Steve managed to save their marriage. So Steve
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: ended up going through a group called Brotherhood. So within
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: this group, he took three to four meetings a week,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: which included one-on-one training, breath work, and talking to the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: group about his problems. The couple also worked with a therapist.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And Ashley went on to say the couple are now
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: better than ever.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: So when did this all happen? Like, was this a
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: recent thing or was this years ago?
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: So they said it happened around five to seven years
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: ago when their oldest son, Taj, was very young.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That makes sense because if this only happened a year
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: or so ago, they probably wouldn't want to put it
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, but Steve said he's.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Been sober for a year now.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: So.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: it seems to have been an ongoing thing for them.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: This episode continued to be pretty juicy because Steve also
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: touched on Ashley's infamous friendship breakdown. So he said alongside
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: his drinking problems, one of the hardest things for him
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: was to see his wife go through friendship breakdowns. So
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: he is, of course, referring to Ashley's recent friendship bust
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: up with her former best friend and podcast co-host Kiara Durrow.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Well, Amy, I'm glad you clarified to the listeners because
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Ashi has, of course, infamously parted ways with her other
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: former best friends, Sammy Leo and Gretty Rose. But I
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: do agree with you. I'm pretty sure Steve was referring
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to Kiara Dorough. And when he was talking about these
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: friendship breakups, he explained that he and Ashi had learned
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: a lot of lessons after getting big quickly on social media.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: He said one of the main ones was how to react.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And for him, that means not putting fuel on the fire.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: This is what he said.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: So when the friendship break down and I saw Ashi,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: You know, there was a few cases there where things
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: were thrown at you and sometimes untrue, sometimes uncalled for,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: sometimes an overreaction to something. And it's been really hard
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: to sit there and watch you cop that because I
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: know the real story and the truth behind the scenes.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: And because I know you're such a lover, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: you wear your heart on your sleeve, especially in friendships.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: You're one of the best loyal friends I know. You're
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: the first one there for a birthday cake. You're the
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: first one to organize a dinner for someone's birthday or
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: you'll always attend everything and Be the best friend and
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: you can see the people that you've drawn into your
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: life now.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to refute what Steve is saying here,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: but it's a little bit awkward when you get your
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: husband on your podcast to say what a great friend
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: you've been after all of these public friendship breakdowns.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like getting your mum to say what an
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: amazing person you are.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Very biased. It really did feel like that. Anyway, that
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: is where we're going to leave things today. If you
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: do want to hear more content from us, though, We
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: drop a subscriber-only episode every Thursday. That episode is basically
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: an extension of our regular shows where we talk even
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: more about influencer gossip.
• 27:00
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• 27:07
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• 27:10
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• 27:13
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