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E81: Cancelled - Modern Mob Rule and Its Roots · The Junto Podcast

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Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto podcast, where we promote the practical
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applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
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I'm your host, Edgar Mills. Thank you for joining.
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Welcome back. Thanks for sticking with me, especially after some of the more heated episodes.
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A lot of people think abortion is heated. It is.
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All right. What are we talking about today? Well, I wasn't going to do that.
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This is a topic that doesn't concern me much,
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but cancel culture, and it's popping its ugly head back up it it seemed like
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for a while there that it kind of faded away,
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hit a peak as we know it, right? As we know modern cancel culture,
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it hit a peak and then it started to die down because people just didn't give a shit anymore.
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But now people are starting to try to, it's, it's, it's picking back up and
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it's ugly. It's stupid. It's, it's a tactic that we need to,
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we need to cancel, cancel culture for sure.
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And what is it? What is cancel culture? Well, everybody knows.
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Everybody knows. It's targeted, right? It's organized targeting.
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Somebody you don't like, you put a target on them, and then you try to.
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And it could be whatever reason. It doesn't even have to be legitimate reasons.
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And the whole point is that you're trying to deny these people livelihood,
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a platform, freedom of association.
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You're trying to take away their ability to function in daily life,
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and it's done by by creating an accusation or a charge that well is basically
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designed to shut down any debate,
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that the charge is so egregious that anybody who attempts to debate with it,
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gets gets tagged into the same charge.
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And it makes simple disagreement look like some emergency on the scale of immediate harm.
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Oh my God, this is so dangerous. Oh, he's such a racist that people, it's crazy.
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So the charges don't have to be accurate. They often not, or they're just out
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of context and exaggerated to a ridiculous point. Okay.
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Well, before cancel culture, and I'm talking modern times here,
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before cancel culture, there was call-out, call-out culture.
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And that came about where somebody would, well, yeah, they would lay maybe possibly
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an accusation or a charge against you. But then they left a door open for you to retort for debate.
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So there's beef, right? You see these with rappers a lot of times.
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They have these diss tracks.
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And you saw it a lot in and especially in the rap business with dudes calling
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out other dudes and then they would go back it'd be back and forth well at least
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there was room for a back and forth in cancel culture there is not,
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yeah call out culture wasn't oh that's not that bad some people need to be called out for sure but,
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an indictment and and an inability to answer to the to the charge and then regardless
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of what the answer is anyway i mean,
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that's malicious that's what it is it's malicious and it and it aims to completely
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erase a person's ability to function especially celebrities and like people who are highly visible.
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There doesn't have to be people who are highly visible which we'll see here
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in a little bit But the slang term itself, cancel culture,
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I mean, that predates,
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well, the phenomenon that it has become.
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But cancel culture itself, I think what it kind of took off in the early 20-teens,
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was when we started really using that heavily.
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But the tactic itself and the method itself, folks, it's much older than that. Much older.
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It's older than digital media. But the method goes like this.
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You pick a target, a reachable target, a reachable target.
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Or you could read vulnerable target even somebody who does yeah,
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somebody doesn't have the apparatus to defend themselves against baseless claims,
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then you exaggerate and decontextualize the claims the charges the accusations,
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exaggerate them to such an egregious proportion.
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Then you slap a catchy label on it, a catchy label. So it's really easy for
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them to be repeatable. It's repeatable.
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So your little minions can repeat it over and over and over.
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And then you circulate it these days via social media.
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So that, and you tag everybody so that their employers, their vendors,
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their sponsors, their associations of any sort.
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They have no choice but to see. They see what's been thrown out there.
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And then eventually, they have to cut them loose because they can't be associated
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with such a charge. That's cancel culture.
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In the 40s and 50s, Hollywood had blacklists for communist sympathizers.
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And back then, if you were accused of being this and McCarthy error,
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if you're accused of being a communist or sympathizing, you didn't work.
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And the sentiment ain't altogether wrong, but the tactic is wrong.
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Churches would expel members for not toeing a certain line and not in a very subtle way.
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But the Nazis, let's talk about the Nazi propaganda machine for a moment.
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Prior to World War II, in the 30s, Joseph Goebbels ran the, I forget what ministry they called it.
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But what they did in the early 30s was they brought all the arts and the news
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media and, I mean, print media, radio, all the things that were in the 30s, right?
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And they brought that under one sort of ministry.
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And if you didn't get approved by the ministry, you didn't work.
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And if that ministry chose to target you, one of the ways that they used to target people,
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was that they would send people out to photograph a Jewish business.
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If there was a Jew business and a German non-Jew was shopping,
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with that business, all they did was take a picture. How did the guys have taken
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a picture of this business?
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They hung those on public displays. And what the whole point was,
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was now these Germans who were in these photos of patronizing these Jewish businesses,
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they were ostracized, guilt by association, canceled. They got canceled.
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Their German peers and friends ostracized them for shopping at a Jew business.
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That's the exact tactic, isn't it? Ha ha.
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You see what, when all the Epstein stuff was at its highest peak,
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what was the, what'd you see on social media?
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The left and right, both, they would post as many pictures of their opponent,
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in proximity to Jeffrey Epstein.
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Oh, look, they're best friends. Oh, look, they're homies.
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The same exact tactic. Goebbels was a, he was a genius.
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He was a mad genius. He was a effed up genius, but he was a genius because the
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method holds today and people use it and will swear to God that that's not what they're doing.
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What about Mao, the Cultural Revolution? During the Cultural Revolution,
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Mao used what was called Dazibau, and those were big posters.
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Now, some unique art came out of the Cold War from the communist sides.
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But these big posters, and they would post them up in the public square,
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everywhere, all over, in the factory floor, in universities.
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They would post up this propaganda on posters And as the Cultural Revolution
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took heat And started picking up steam,
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They named names on these posters And they would target groups of people Or groups of people,
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And Mao said that these posters were the best weapon,
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He said that he could have more effect with these posters that he could with a law, passing a law.
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And what these posters were, were everybody had to not only look at them,
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but they started, they had to repeat them.
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And if you didn't repeat the propaganda that was spread about on these posters,
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you faced struggle sessions.
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Yes, struggle sessions.
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Now with these posters they name names for sure they aim to cancel certain segments of their society,
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but then the also the implication was if you didn't also repeat what was what
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was being fed to you then you became a target for not repeating not for not standing loud enough,
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cancel culture same exact thing but those were state entities right those were state entities.
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Well, our friend Saul Alinsky, he codified these tactics in his book called Rules for Radicals.
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I want to say published around 1971 or so.
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And these rules were the same rules, similar rules and tactics.
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They were designed for the radicals, revolutionaries.
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Still leftists, but the revolutionaries.
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So that the small groups and the individuals could use the same propaganda techniques,
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that the communist state or Nazi state.
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Was using.
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And it was the same set of rules, very similar. You manufacture a simple enemy,
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you freeze and personalize,
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the charge, the accusation, You polarize the target and isolate.
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And then also you force institutions, because this wasn't all about targeting individuals.
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It was, but it was about targeting businesses also.
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And you force these institutions and these businesses to live inside of their
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own public statements and their own policies.
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So if, as a business, your virtue signaling how inclusive or how whatever you are,
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they would then not only hold you to that standard, but to the extreme of that
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standard until you fold it,
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till you either had to capitulate or crumble. That was a tactic.
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Cancel culture.
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All right, so back to modern day here. There's a few examples.
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I'll name a few of them. We're not going to go into great detail on all these,
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but if you guys remember Paula Dean, she had a cooking show on the Food Network.
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She was like a Meemaw Southern plump and bubbly.
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She had a cooking show. She said some racist stuff on her cooking show.
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Not on the show, off camera. Well, I think it was on camera,
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but off air. I'm not sure. I can't remember that.
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She said some racist stuff that was construed as racist. I'm not sure exactly even what she said.
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And then I think she also was doing like a wedding plan for somebody.
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And she had like, it was like a plantation themed wedding.
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Well, in the South, that, is that really a big deal? Plantation?
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I mean, you can call it whatever.
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Well, if you got black servants cruising around in your plantation-themed wedding,
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it's probably a problem. It's probably a problem.
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She got canceled, man. She got cut. Food Network dropped her.
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All her sponsors dropped her. She apologized. Doesn't matter.
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Look, folks, the apology doesn't matter.
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The apology only weakens your position anyway. Don't apologize, I guess.
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If you ever get canceled, stand on it, F it.
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She apologized, didn't man? Now look, did she survive it?
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I guess. I mean, I think at Walmart, there's like Paula Deen cookingware,
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cookware and whatnot, but,
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There was a lady named Justine Sacco, and she was a communications director
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for some, you know, sort of like tech-type company.
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She was getting ready to get on a flight to South Africa, and she says,
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and she posted this on her Twitter or something.
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Now, this lady had like 100-and-something followers.
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She was a nobody in the scheme of social media.
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And she says hey getting ready to go to africa i hope i don't get aids ha ha
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ha just kidding i'm not black.
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A dude so-called journalist from like gawker if you guys remember gawker well
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they had like a little sub forum anyway this dude saw that and he was a tech
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dude and he amplified that tweet.
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By the time she landed in South Africa, that tweet was a national trend and
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she lost her job immediately.
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It was a distasteful joke. She didn't do it on television. She didn't do it.
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It was just a distasteful joke that she tweeted.
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Well, somebody took offense to it. That dude from Gawker, either he thought,
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oh, this is going to, that's what he thought.
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This is going to get some traction he wasn't offended by it 100 but,
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gone canceled she lost her job ostracized,
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yeah just from a tweet being amplified a little from a little tiny account but
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some tech dude thought oh man this is gonna get the clicks yeah,
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A Google employee named James Damore.
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There was an internal memo at Google. And this internal memo discussed that,
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there's differences in sex we have to still acknowledge.
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And it was something about diversity, but it was also about the differences in the male and female.
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And remember during the early 2000s and whatnot, you know, everybody's non-binary,
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everybody's bisexual, everybody's trans. There's no such thing as a man and woman.
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Well, this dude got fired for perpetuating harmful stereotypes because that memo got circulated.
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And then he got Googled clearly a liberal company.
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He got targeted. All right. Washington State.
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Washington State, Evergreen State University or college.
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There was, they do a thing. They had a tradition, Evergreen State,
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called the Day of Absence.
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It started back in the 70s in support of civil rights and that kind of thing.
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And what that day of absence tradition was, was that the black people were allowed
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to skip school and black professors and everybody.
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Now, when it originally started, it wasn't just skipping school.
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It was they gathered at a place off site and discussed matters of racial disparity and whatnot. not.
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And then on that day, when the blacks chose, because it wasn't a forced thing,
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it was clearly a voluntary thing,
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when the blacks would go off campus and gather, well, the whites would stay
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on and they would discuss racial disparities and all things. I guess it meant well.
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Well, at some point in 2020, 2017, 2018, whatever, the university decided to reverse that role.
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And in reversing that role, now white professors and students were not only
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invited to leave campus, but kind of directed to leave campus.
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Well, Brett Weinstein sort of objected to the change in the whole thing it.
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We took a voluntary thing, but now you're being compelled, based on your race, to leave.
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Students protested this guy.
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Anyway, yeah, the faculty, they tried to get rid of him. And he said, look.
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Choosing to be off campus because you fit into a group of people and being directed
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off campus because of the color of your skin are two totally different things.
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Well, that was it. They demanded his resignation. They protested him, confronted him.
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So, yeah, him and his wife apparently was a professor there too.
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They got a settlement from the college, but they were gone.
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There was no context. Cancel culture, not only does it not require context,
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It requires to be taken out of context or to be effective.
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So during that era, right, early 20-teens, 2013, 14, 15, up to,
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you know, about 2020, 2021, it was the height or gained a lot of traction.
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And you saw it, especially at universities. Oh, my God.
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You got to be careful walking around any remotely liberal university.
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If you don't, if you don't tow the line, the progressive line.
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But I mean, now like publishers are dropping people, companies,
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HR, it was all, we have to, now we have this minefield we have to navigate.
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So they get these bizarre HR policies to make sure everybody's in compliance with what?
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Newsrooms, so this is the disturbing part, a disturbing part.
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During this time, legacy news media, the professionals, correct?
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The professional journalists, they're picking up stories from freaking social
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media platforms with zero effing research whatsoever, just taking it and going.
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And that's all it takes. an accusation laid on on any platform twitter x tiktok whatever,
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a simple accusation with a hashtag,
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distributed widely distributed then the news media picks it up because it's trending,
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And then the next thing that you hear is this, so-and-so is facing backlash for false accusation.
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They don't say false accusation. They repeat the false accusation.
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So now you've heard it on Fox and CNN. It's got to be true.
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Right? It's got to be true. I just heard it on the news.
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It's such a horrible thing. It's so very Nazi and communist authoritarian It's authoritarian tactics.
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But it picked up steam. Why? Because then, remember hashtag Me Too, Me Too movement?
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They started, they sort of indicted, now it was real crimes,
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right? But for every legitimate claim, there was probably 10 illegitimate claims.
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And yeah, and they were exaggerated.
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But because there was real crimes involved there it it regained its sense of
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urgency that's the whole that's one of the factors to all this cancel culture
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stuff is the claim has to have a sense of urgency,
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you can go on social media and hashtag edgar mills is an asshole nobody cares
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everybody knows already whatever it doesn't matter,
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you can go on a hashtag edgar mills is a racist now people were all upset.
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So it's got to be inflammatory and it's got to have that sense of urgency.
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And to say something like racist or sex or a rapist, oh, well,
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that was the hashtag me too movement, right? Everybody's a rapist.
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Hey, Harvey Weinstein got convicted. Bill Cosby got convicted and that one hurt me.
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Bill Cosby, it was a lifelong sort of role model for me. And I'm talking back
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to the Junkyard Gang, Fat Albert, you know what I mean?
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And I spy from the 60s. And yeah, and never mind the Cosby show.
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Bill Cosby was a pillar of goodness, of upstanding moral fortitude.
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There was lessons to be learned. Go back and watch Junkyard Gang, man.
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It's, well, he's out there drugging women because sex will do that,
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man. Sex is powerful. It's horrible.
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So at any rate, the point is, even though those were legitimate and they were
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discovered to be, yes, these men are rapists, they are in jail.
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Every public accusation after that made the news. It became everybody's a rapist. Everybody.
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You could say a wrong thing to a woman, but you're done.
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Never mind touching physically. Never mind pressure and just saying a wrong
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thing would get you hemmed up.
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Yeah, it was too much, too much power, man.
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You guys heard, you remember the Spider-Man, like Uncle Ben,
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with great power comes great responsibility.
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Well, these cancel culture types wield this power just with zero discernment whatsoever.
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Now the conservatives kind of tried to use it They tried to pick up on this
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a little bit They tried It doesn't work for the conservatives,
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They hit James Gunn He said some I don't know, he had some old posts or old tweets that were,
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I don't know, sexist or racist or something And the conservatives got into a
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little bit of an uproar And he got fired off of guardians of galaxy three,
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but then Disney brought him back.
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Like it wasn't okay. It was temporary. We satisfy this little,
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because the conservatives don't know how to do the propaganda the same that
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the progressives do. That's just the way it is.
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Roseanne Barr posted a picture of Valerie Jarrett,
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who was Obama's, I don't know, chief of staff or something, and Helena Bonham
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Carter in her Planet of the Apes full makeup.
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It was hours. Within hours, Roseanne's show was canceled, and she was a pariah. She was, yeah.
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And Kevin Hart no longer hosted the Oscars based on some apparently homo,
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unfriendly homo tweets or statements or jokes, jokes,
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however many years ago, way back.
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And then there's, then there's JK Rowling. She simply said, look,
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boys and girls, the transsexual medications are harmful to kids.
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And she got skewered.
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Two of her biggest stars of Harry Potter came out against her.
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Hey, thanks for making us famous and rich beyond our wildest dreams, but you're evil.
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It's all wrong. They called her, now this is a new one on me,
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they called her an eliminationist, as if she came out and said,
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hey, we must murder all trans. She said no such thing.
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But that's cancel culture and actions.
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And then there's some guy, the New York Times posted an op-ed from Tom Cotton, who's a conservative.
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And he got, he got forced out of the New York Times.
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A guy named Donald McNeil, I think he was a teacher or a professor,
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and he was having a discussion about racial slurs and said racial slur out loud and was then,
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fired. You can't even have it.
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Probably the N-word, right? Probably. I'm not going to say it right now. Why?
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Because somebody will take that clip. They'll take that two seconds.
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Of me saying it and it'll be all over the universe.
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My little paltry 10 or 15,000 listeners right now will turn into 20 million if I say the N word.
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Nevermind the context. Nevermind the context.
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Just saying the word. This guy was having a class discussion about it and and lost his livelihood.
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Gina Serrano in 2021. The Mandalorian. It was... When that...
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When The Mandalorian came out, man, everybody was stoked. And it was good.
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And everybody was fired up and she was awesome.
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And she made some... Because she's somewhat conservative.
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She made some comment about probably comparing Nazi...
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Tactics to cancel culture, something along those lines.
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And boom, became a big deal. She got fired. And then all it did was make her more popular.
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She still got fired, but it was Disney. Disney's involved in a couple of these
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things here because it's leftist. It was a leftist organization and unabashedly so.
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They're trying to make all your kids gay and trans. They were.
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I think they got a new guy now.
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And there was a survey in 2020, now that's six years ago, but it was around
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the height though. That was around the peak. 2020 was about the peak.
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And that survey found that most Americans, and I think like,
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when I say most, like 65% and the vast majority of those being college educated,
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said that the current cancel culture climate stopped them from saying what they believed.
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Stifled their beliefs, their beliefs or their ability to express them.
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65% of America was being held hostage by probably about 1% of America,
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which is these social media warriors, the social justice, social media warriors.
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Looking for any reason to be aggrieved, looking for any reason to be outraged.
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And then that outrage magically becomes moral high ground.
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Crazy. It's crazy. It's all crazy.
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So yeah, the peak didn't hold though. It didn't hold. It started to lose its
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juice a little bit because individuals are sovereign, right?
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And myself, I'm responsible for my own thinking and my own whatever.
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Crowds are not. The mob is not.
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The mob is not. It's not sovereign.
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So, yeah, J.K. Rowling, she recovered, right, and furthermore, did well after the fact.
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Because when people force you to pick sides, all that does is solidify your side.
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Even if you didn't have sides before, one side is going to adopt you if the other side dumps on you.
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So, yeah, it forces people to pick sides, and then it just solidifies those sides.
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Dave Chappelle, Netflix employees were going to stage a walkout if you put Dave Chappelle on.
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Well, what did Dave Chappelle?
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Netflix chose the money, baby. They didn't.
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Save your moral outrage. Netflix wanted that Dave Chappelle money, and they got it.
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Dave Chappelle went on. He's still going on.
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What about Shane Gillis? NBC fired his ass And then like a couple years later
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He's hosting Saturday Night Live Because he's funny.
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Cancel culture don't hold hell louis ck i what did any like jack off in front
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of somebody in public or something he won a freaking grammy,
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and what about joe rogan i think was it youtube or somebody tried to like just
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cancel joe rogan and what happened spotify was like nah we want the money,
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cancel culture don't hold,
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it's superficial and they're depending on the masses to not be critical thinkers,
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and just run with whatever the hashtag is.
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So, again, the peak didn't hold, and that started to decline.
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When Elon Musk bought Twitter and turned it into X, that kind of leveled out the moderation.
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Because conservative, you can say all you want about, well, hate speech.
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Conservative posts were being throttled down, and extreme leftist posts were
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being amplified. That's the way it is.
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They've admitted it in open court. It's the way it is.
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So once Elon Musk took over Twitter, that started to shift a little bit to where
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everybody's voice was getting maybe close to equal.
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But what happened, though, is the fatigue started to set in.
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The boy who cried wolf effect started to happen.
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You can only carry so much outrage for a thing.
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If you're outraged about every little thing, then you're not outraged about anything.
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And people started to see that. All right, whatever. So they ignored it.
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People scrolled right on past, right?
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The catchy caption doesn't mean anything anymore. Doesn't mean anything.
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And that's holding still pretty much.
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It lingered longer in the universities, folks. Because why? That's where all
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the leftists are being produced.
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So it lingered longer there.
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But like comedy and even parts of big tech, Like, even though it's a bunch of
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liberals, they're starting to see, they're like, man, I could get canceled.
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What's maybe this is a bad tactic.
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The left had full control over that, that,
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cancel culture propaganda monster, that Frankenstein monster that was built
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by people like Goebbels and Owenski and Mao.
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But after, well, after the purchase of Twitter by Elon Musk,
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like the monopolies sort of died away.
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So now kind of both sides had their own they have the ability to unleash their
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own monster it's still a monster,
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and so yeah it peaked and then it started to die down there's still a bunch
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of ugly shit on the socials but nobody's really getting canceled,
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well fast forward now 25 26 6.
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Instead of just the socials, and instead of just tagging whatever the business, now it's more targeted.
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The venues and the advertisers and the festival brands.
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Gal Gadot, Wonder Woman, is Israeli.
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That's it. She's Israeli. She's beautiful. She's sexy.
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She's kind. And she made comments of how awful the October 7th massacre was.
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And in comes the trash gadot protests.
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And they trashed her. She's got a Hollywood Walk of Fame star that trashed it.
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She got, well, she bowed out of some film festivals over pressure.
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She got dropped from Wonder Woman. Yeah, dropped from Wonder Woman.
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And good for her, Ralph Lauren is unfazed by it. He's got her in his latest fashion campaign.
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And good for her.
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This Israel-Palestine business,
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For all of you out there who are choosing hard sides, you don't know.
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You're probably ignorant on the whole thing.
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But for sure, if you're choosing sides, you lack any critical thinking.
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So again, I say two things can be true at once.
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Israel is heavy-handed.
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They are very, very deliberate in their violence of action.
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And it's true that the tactics are heavy.
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It's also true that Hamas runs Palestine, the West Bank and Gaza.
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And it's also true that Hamas uses civilians and civilian structures and hospitals
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and schools to run operations out of.
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That is as egregious as anything Israel's ever done.
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Do they both have the right to exist? Yep. For those of you who have selective
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historical metrics, well, 1948 or whatever, whatever.
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You're not Thorough in your argument You're choosing a stop point You're not looking at history,
37:56
So to jump on this Little easy breezy Macklemore fucking Free Palestine thing,
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It's just a fashion statement It's a fashion statement Your keffiyeh is a fashion statement So that,
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Macklemore.
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That can,
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to say it. He's a cunt. But he brought politics to the concert.
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Well, as Sheeran's producers or venue promoters or whoever dropped him because
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they didn't want to part up because they were probably Jewish, right?
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And then venue owners craft the Gillette Stadium.
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They said, no, he's not playing at our stadium well you can try to target those
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stadium owners if you want but that's not how cancel culture works ed sheeran
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was the easier target wasn't he he was just convenient,
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why didn't you stand for this why didn't you stand for that you you're a genocide you promote genocide,
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he whatever that guy's been run through the raked through the coals he's lost
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followers he's lost money he's lost acts radio stations in Ireland has have
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stopped playing his music so,
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over some shit you you have zero fucking knowledge of,
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he apologized I told you earlier in the game here doesn't matter the file stays
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open folks doesn't matter what you say or or how genuine you think you're being
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when you apologize guys.
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It's too late. It doesn't matter. They don't care. You're the target.
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You're the easy pile on. So they're just going to pile on.
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And then there's the Converse controversy. Have you seen it?
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I looked at all the photos from that ad campaign and what Converse tried to do was be artistic.
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I guess trying a new thing, you know what I mean? Trying to have some artistic flavor.
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And it was very tasteful, black and white.
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And the subject of that was like a K-pop, little cutie pie K-pop singer.
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I don't know who she is, but, and there's several photos and she's holding sneakers
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or reaching for some sneakers, wearing the sneakers. It's a sneaker ad. And,
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One of those particular photos had, there was lights and shadows and angles,
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and it created sort of a triangular white against her.
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She was wearing like a dress, and the white of her dress was shining through
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this triangular shape, and she was holding sneakers down by her side in her hands.
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And I would like to know who leveled this accusation But somebody said that it resembled the KKK,
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Lynching a black person Or a KKK lynching There was another way to assume it
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was a black person But if it's the KKK,
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I guess they could be lynching a Jew I don't know who all they hate.
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Converse immediately dropped the ad immediately apologized,
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sorry we're tone deaf we don't know we didn't know we didn't catch it sorry
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sorry people were calling for converse for night night converse is owned by
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nike people calling for an inquiry into who approved this ad,
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what people are calling for that who who leveled that charge. What is their agenda?
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Because it was an artistic ad campaign. I saw zero wrong with it.
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And if you read that into it, you got the problem. You're the one with the problem.
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Anyway, I don't even like Converse. I don't even wear Nikes. I wear Hocus.
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Doesn't matter. It was stupid. It was stupid. And people piled on.
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And of course, the news picked it up because they're lazy.
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Hell, All they gotta do is open their feed Oh yeah, here's the story of the
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day Madness, absolute madness So this method And it mutated It mutated.
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And much like the Mao, the struggle sessions of the Cultural Revolution,
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the new method is that not only did the person do this or say this,
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not only do they have to apologize, but now they have to fully support and endorse our side.
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And if they don't, it don't matter how much they apologize.
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So it's the way the progressives do business. You're either an ally,
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100% all in, or you're an enemy.
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There's no middle ground. That's the progressive way.
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Silence is complicity. Silence is complicity. That's the way they do it. Athletes.
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Ivan Proveroff, James Rima, several of the Tampa Bay Rays pitchers, Jaylene Daniels.
43:26
A whole minor league team forfeited a game because they didn't want to participate
43:30
in this gay pride night because they declined to wear the rainbow jerseys.
43:36
They wanted to participate in the game, but they didn't want to wear the rainbow
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jerseys. Well, you got to comply. You got to.
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You got to promote the cause. Well, I don't want to. It's not my cause.
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I disagree with it. Oh, you can't disagree with it.
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Why not? Well, because you can't play if you can't disagree with it.
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Religious, be damned. You're Christian, that don't count. Well,
43:58
fuck that. You got to promote the gay pride.
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So now you can't even have your own set of beliefs. Well, if your beliefs can
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stomp out the others, then you can have it.
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But if it can't, then you're subject. It's the tyranny of the majority.
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Only problem is it ain't the majority.
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It's the vocal minority.
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That's the power of social media. That's the power of the propaganda machine
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in the hands of individuals and little factions.
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Thanks, Sal Alinsky. Thanks, Yosef Goebbels.
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Thanks, Mao Zedong. There was one guy named John Gibson was a CEO of a company,
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and he praised Texas's abortion law. He just said it openly like, yeah, it's good.
44:46
He ain't CEO anymore, lost his job. You have to, not only you can't be against
44:50
abortion, you have to openly come out and be for it.
44:54
And if you disagree with it, done.
44:58
Not only that so-and-so said xyz it's now that he doesn't stand with us the
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accusations are irrelevant now,
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the accusation has been made irrelevant the the accusation is he doesn't stand
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with us you're either with us or you're against us,
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and then they get and then all the secondary targets, right? Ralph Lauren.
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Now, Ralph Lauren is a staple in the fashion industry. He's been around for decades.
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People hate on Gal, okay? Ralph Lauren said, F you.
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And he's going to withstand. Why? Because he's big. He's big enough to withstand it.
45:40
Some people may boycott his fashion. It won't last though, because if it doesn't
45:45
have any new, if it doesn't have any catch to it,
45:48
to, to, to hashtag on the socials, it's going to fade away because the charges are, are unfounded.
45:57
People may try to boycott certain stadiums, but when your team shows up or your
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guy shows up to play that stadium, radio stations can, can drop music.
46:07
Who listens to commercial radio anymore anyway? God dang.
46:11
And there was one band, I can't remember, Luna or something.
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Jimmy Kimmel the same night that Gal Gadot was on Jimmy Kimmel.
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And they said that had they known that they would be taping in the same block
46:29
with Gal Gadot, that they wouldn't have done it.
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But they did. So they decided to throw Free Palestine into their little set.
46:38
Why would you demonize this woman? Because she's Israeli. Well,
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I don't love on the Jews And I don't hate on the Jews I don't love on the Palestinians
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And I don't hate on the Palestinians Now I do hate on Islam A little bit But
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that's a whole other story Yeah,
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It's madness This is all madness You don't stand with us That's the charge Be
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damn what you did Or what I allegedly did Or said Be damned any apology The
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file stays open Stays open,
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This is This is authoritarian practice Without The ministry of truth without the Politburo,
47:27
This is individual control of Authoritarian tactics Individual and Faction.
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And in this method, there can be no middle ground. Association is guilt.
47:45
And the problem and what it does, though, and this is what sucks so much about
47:50
the social media. Well, it's the good and bad.
47:53
Everybody can have their own brand now. Everybody's got their own newsroom.
47:58
I'm sitting here delivering a podcast to you in my basement.
48:02
But what it does is it takes the loudest minority voice, routes it through various platforms,
48:14
and delivers it to various venues, and now it looks like this is public consensus.
48:24
The vocal minority makes it look to these people who do business out in the
48:30
real world they think oh my god the masses are against me we're gonna lose money we're gonna,
48:40
when in reality it is not the masses at all the vocal minority takes ownership,
48:46
and claims to be the public.
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This, these, these accusations and all this shit, there, there is no due process,
48:58
none whatsoever. It's only mob rule. That's what it is. It's mob rule.
49:04
Those of you who listen to me a lot know that I'm against the mob rule.
49:08
I'm against the collectivism. I'm against all this stuff because the mob rule
49:13
doesn't have to meet the burden of proof. They don't have to prove anything.
49:17
They don't even have to be accurate in their accusation.
49:20
They just throw it out there. And Once it's out there, it takes a life of its own.
49:24
You throw some strategic tags and hashtags on there and that's it.
49:29
It doesn't matter if it's true.
49:30
The accusation is enough to cut ties.
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The accusation is enough to cut ties. And another problem with this mob rule
49:39
is that they believe that the intensity and their indignant outrage gives them
49:46
moral high ground, and it doesn't.
49:48
Indignant outrage doesn't give you anything at all except make you look like a child,
49:55
if it's not built on factual evidence it's just hearsay or it's just hyperbole,
50:02
you're just a you're just an emotional wreck you don't have any moral high ground,
50:08
you can claim it you don't have it,
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they use that outrage as the evidence well i'm so mad about it it must be true.
50:18
What the hell and so they solve no problems this cancel culture solves no problems,
50:26
a complex war like the Middle East don't get solved with a free Palestine hashtag,
50:31
Javier Bardem ain't doing anything for.
50:36
To fix the problem,
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fashion statement it's a fashion statement the societal problem and the war
50:45
and all the things they they stand through all these clever hashtags they don't but a person,
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actress or an athlete or ceo they are easier to destroy with a clever hashtag,
51:02
because everybody is don't nobody wants to be associated with it still doesn't fix anything.
51:08
There's still no real debate. All this stuff does is stifle debate.
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It's not enough to do ordinary market real life things, right?
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Is that I don't vocally boycott any particular thing. There's places I don't shop for reasons.
51:32
I withhold my money from these places. If somebody asks me, I'll tell them.
51:39
I do my own boycott. I refuse to do business with certain vendors or certain
51:44
entities for my own reasons.
51:48
I'm not going to go out and trash these businesses or vendors.
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I'm not going to hashtag so-and-so has zero integrity and he's a piece of shit.
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That's my opinion. His wife probably don't think that, maybe,
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but I don't do business with them.
52:07
Those are individual acts of defiance.
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If you need the mob to just to to,
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validate your your your outrage or your your defiance you're weak you're weak,
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if you need the mob to validate you stand on your own,
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act on your own have some goddamn integrity,
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because doing it on your own is not the same as co-opting Every freaking possible
52:36
third party To be your strong arm,
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Your union thug To go around and stifle everybody else,
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There's no integrity in that At all That's not justice That is not justice At all,
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So look You can recognize this It's pretty recognizable As it is But Ask yourself
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When you're hearing these things.
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Pink, I wanted to add one more. Pink, this is the newest one.
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Javier Bardem is trying to cancel Pink. Pink is a lefty, but she's Jewish.
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And because she's Jewish, she stands with the Jewish people.
53:17
She also has deep sympathy for the Palestinian people.
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And she said so. Doesn't matter, though. Javier Bardem with his keffiyeh on,
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his Yasser Arafat fucking keffiyeh, trying to get her because she's the ambassador to UNICEF for.
53:38
So nevermind all the good involved in what she's done.
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Now I think she's stupid. I don't, I don't, I don't care for pink,
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but in this case, she's not wrong.
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She, she's, she's Jewish. What is she supposed to do?
53:52
Reject her people, her own people. She don't, pink and Gal Gadot are not the generals.
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Running the Campaign in Gaza Huh.
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Influence on how the IDF does business.
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But Javier Bardem, he's trying to get out there and use his platform because he's famous.
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He's trying to use his platform to shame and cancel one individual.
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Is he going to move on to another individual later?
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Once, once, once pink is gone and to fade it into obscurity.
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It's not integrity. It's not justice. All right. What is the accusation?
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This is how we're going to identify these things. What is the accusation specifically?
54:46
Not broadly. Oh, she don't stand for Palestine. That's not bullshit.
54:51
I don't stand for Palestine.
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I got a friend who's Palestinian and the poor Palestinian people who are being
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used by Hamas are just that.
55:03
Anyway, anyway, I'm not meaning to get into this. What I'm meaning is what is the actual accusation?
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Not the broad, vague accusation. What's the actual accusation laid upon this one person or business?
55:18
Is the language of this accusation a very specific charge, a very specific accusation,
55:25
or is it a broader problem that the target has no influence over whatsoever,
55:30
like I just said, with Pink and Gal Gadot?
55:34
And then what's the source of this accusation? Who made it first?
55:40
Who crafted the language? Because we rarely get that.
55:46
Once a hashtag catches on fire, it catches on fire. We rarely get the source of the accusation.
55:53
Don't accept anything without accepting the source and looking at the source first.
55:59
So who laid the accusation and what do they stand to gain from it?
56:04
Ideological? Do they stand to gain money from it? Are they just a troll on a payroll somewhere?
56:13
That should invalidate just about anything. And then finally, ask yourself,
56:19
would my team accept the same exact penalty if my own side was targeted with this style of of attack,
56:32
would we accept the same outcome?
56:36
If someone used the same exact method against me, would I accept the outcome?
56:42
Do I? Because that's how you know whether or not they think the method is legit
56:46
or not. That's why debate is so important.
56:50
If the answer to any of these are ambiguous.
56:55
Inflective or misleading, you're not seeing accountability.
57:01
You're seeing Mal's fucking struggle session in action.
57:06
You have to demand the full story, the full record.
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Don't just accept the caption or the hashtag.
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And you have to hold your own side to the same rules that you're apply to everyone else. That's it.
57:24
That good people is what I have for you today. There's just so much popping
57:29
up right now because of it.
57:31
This cancel culture, it's trying to rear its ugly head again,
57:35
and it needs to be squashed, quashed, smashed, deleted.
57:41
Cancel culture needs to be canceled.
57:44
It must be stopped.
57:46
It is unhealthy for society. It was unhealthy for the Nazis.
57:52
It was unhealthy for Mao.
57:55
They used it and they stirred up a lot of stuff. But look at the results.
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Propaganda, man. It's bad. It's bad. It's no good. It's disingenuous. It's a tactic.
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Don't fall for it and don't use it oh okay all right good people today is thursday,
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