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Ep. 290 - How to Conquer Your Feelings · The Living Waters Podcast

• 1:04
  Mark Spence: things you know easy.
• 1:05
  Mark Spence: You bring up a really good point there, right?
• 1:07
  Mark Spence: We do not go by feelings For somebody to say I no longer love that person.
• 1:11
  Mark Spence: They're saying that they are no longer choosing to unconditionally and sacrificially serve that individual.
• 1:20
  Mark Spence: And that's the way we are to love our spouses and really love each other.
• 1:24
  Mark Spence: Right, Love is not a feeling, it is a verb, it is an action.
• 1:28
  Mark Spence: I am committed to you even if you're never committed to me, and this is the way we approach the word of god.
• 1:35
  Mark Spence: Right, our feelings are so fickle.
• 1:37
  Mark Spence: If I would have went by my feelings, I would have married 16 people before I met my wife.
• 1:40
  Mark Spence: But no, I wanted to wait for my actual wife.
• 1:44
  Mark Spence: Run your race as hard and as fast as you can towards the lord and, when you're ready to get married, look around to see who kept up with you and marry that individual.
• 1:51
  Mark Spence: Martin Luther said don't allow your feelings to preach to you, Because our feelings are always preaching to us.
• 1:58
  Mark Spence: We need to have a louder voice, right?
• 2:00
  Mark Spence: The sirens are always shouting and calling out to us and singing to us from those crashing rocks, and if we set ourselves on the solid rock of God's word, well then, we're not going to be led astray.
• 2:12
  Mark Spence: Nancy Wilson worded it like this anytime our emotions drive the car, we soon end up in a ditch.
• 2:25
  Emeal Zwayne: For many, many years, friends, I have been in the business of saving souls, but today I have added a new saving profile to my saving resume.
• 2:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I am now into saving cameras.
• 2:45
  Emeal Zwayne: That's right, friends.
• 2:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you guys see the saving of the camera that I did earlier in the video today?
• 2:50
  Oscar Navarro: I couldn't figure out whether you were talking about shoes or actual souls when you said saving souls.
• 2:54
  Ray Comfort: Souls, living souls, you mean you got a true eye for the camera and you didn't.
• 2:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Did you guys see the camera earlier?
• 2:59
  Emeal Zwayne: That was falling.
• 3:00
  Mark Spence: I did.
• 3:01
  Emeal Zwayne: You saw that, mark, I did.
• 3:02
  Mark Spence: Yeah, yale called it out, you saw it.
• 3:04
  Mark Spence: Were you in here?
• 3:09
  Mark Spence: Yes, you all said oh no, no, no, no.
• 3:09
  Mark Spence: And then you like stumbled and you fell you cried.
• 3:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I didn't even know I had a witness, but I did, I guess, because I thought you guys were going to believe me.
• 3:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, because the irony is that the camera didn't catch me catching the camera, so I didn't have any evidence to prove that I can't see the camera.
• 3:20
  Oscar Navarro: Don't we have a full-time recording camera up here?
• 3:22
  Oscar Navarro: Yes, we do, so it is evidence.
• 3:26
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys will never hear the end of it.
• 3:27
  Emeal Zwayne: I saved our camera Thousands of dollars.
• 3:30
  Emeal Zwayne: I want to know how you?
• 3:30
  Mark Spence: save souls.
• 3:31
  Mark Spence: How does EZ himself?
• 3:32
  Emeal Zwayne: save souls.
• 3:32
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, help me understand it from a theological perspective.
• 3:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, here's my explanation of it.
• 3:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, first I just want to say this In relation to the proper utilization of the hermeneutical and homiletical principles of biblical interpretation and preaching, it's, it's imperative that one possess higher exegetical skills, especially when dealing with the diversity of logical and eschatological systems within the various genres of the biblical text.
• 3:50
  Emeal Zwayne: So, when you resolve, that then I'll.
• 3:53
  Oscar Navarro: I think I know why you have a headache now.
• 3:53
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 3:55
  Oscar Navarro: Oh, don't remind me.
• 3:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Sorry, oh my goodness, seriously, it was gone and now it's back, so anyway have you guys ever dealt with that though Like oh man, where does this excitement come?
• 4:09
  Mark Spence: to talk about this?
• 4:10
  Emeal Zwayne: is what I was going to talk about.
• 4:11
  Emeal Zwayne: I was going to say have you guys ever done something great but no one saw it and it wasn't recorded.
• 4:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, and then people just wouldn't believe you my whole life you remember that stupid little thing, ray with the, with the nose, with the little chain what did you do with that?
• 4:22
  Ray Comfort: I'm supposed to get that hang on.
• 4:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Hang on, you were horrible you remember, explain to me, remember that little round thing and it had like a chain in there in a guy's head and you would shake it and it would create a nose and a mouth Mix the face.
• 4:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh yes, what was that?
• 4:35
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know, but that was one of the coolest things.
• 4:37
  Emeal Zwayne: But every time Ray look and he would just bump my hand and it would make a man's face.
• 4:50
  Ray Comfort: No, that's not the one we're talking about.
• 4:52
  Ray Comfort: Yes, it is no.
• 4:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, it had a little chain Chain.
• 4:56
  Emeal Zwayne: It was round, it had some funny looking dude, black and white head, and then you would shake it and the chain would Mark.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: You know exactly.
• 5:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I totally remember Remember it was a little circle thing this is reminding me of.
• 5:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Jacob and Daniel.
• 5:07
  Emeal Zwayne: Not remembering, I need a cognitive test.
• 5:09
  Mark Spence: What would I type in to find it?
• 5:10
  Mark Spence: How do I find it on Amazon?
• 5:12
  Mark Spence: I'm going to buy one right now.
• 5:12
  Mark Spence: Who are you guys?
• 5:13
  Mark Spence: Wait you.
• 5:13
  Ray Comfort: Who are you guys?
• 5:14
  Ray Comfort: Wait, hold on you seriously.
• 5:15
  Ray Comfort: What am I doing here?
• 5:16
  Ray Comfort: You can't be serious.
• 5:23
  Mark Spence: Look, I just got some.
• 5:24
  Mark Spence: He didn't take his meds.
• 5:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, you remember it 100% right.
• 5:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember you would shake it and it was a little chain and then it would shape his nose and mouth.
• 5:33
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that's the thing I was talking about.
• 5:36
  Emeal Zwayne: It was circular, wasn't it?
• 5:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but it wasn't ball bearings, it was just like a little tiny.
• 5:40
  Ray Comfort: Well, they looked like a chain, but they were little round bearings that would pull together because they're magnetized.
• 5:44
  Ray Comfort: No, they weren't magnetized, they weren't.
• 5:47
  Emeal Zwayne: Forget it.
• 5:48
  Mark Spence: I don't even know how to look it up.
• 5:49
  Emeal Zwayne: And how funny.
• 5:50
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm talking about not being able to prove something.
• 5:52
  Ray Comfort: No, that was it.
• 5:53
  Ray Comfort: That was the one I just described wrong.
• 5:55
  Ray Comfort: I think it was a chain that fell on the guy's face, but I'd bump you every time you showed me his face.
• 6:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, every time.
• 6:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I remember it now it was a little old.
• 6:10
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I found it.
• 6:10
  Ray Comfort: Did you?
• 6:10
  Ray Comfort: Is that it, mark?
• 6:11
  Ray Comfort: Yes, that's it Now.
• 6:11
  Ray Comfort: You remember it.
• 6:12
  Ray Comfort: That's it, yes.
• 6:13
  Emeal Zwayne: Okay, so were you thinking of something else?
• 6:14
  Ray Comfort: No, I was thinking it was ball bearings, but it was the chain link and it would fall into that.
• 6:19
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, we need to buy one of those.
• 6:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I love that thing.
• 6:22
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it was a great joy because Mark would do it too.
• 6:26
  Ray Comfort: He'd come up with it, perfectly done, and I'd say, give me a look and I'd bump it and you couldn't get it back right, it was one of those.
• 6:32
  Ray Comfort: Yeah.
• 6:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Now we have phones, because this was before I think we had it.
• 6:37
  Ray Comfort: Are you going to order one more?
• 6:38
  Ray Comfort: What's?
• 6:39
  Ray Comfort: It called it's in Germany, I'm not buying something in.
• 6:42
  Ray Comfort: Germany, what's the name?
• 6:44
  Emeal Zwayne: of it.
• 6:44
  Emeal Zwayne: I ball bearings.
• 6:45
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it's from.
• 6:45
  Ray Comfort: Germany.
• 6:49
  Oscar Navarro: I have done some.
• 6:50
  Oscar Navarro: There's this one time, going back to your originally question, this one time we're at this park and you know those they make these things that are like made to hurt your children.
• 6:57
  Oscar Navarro: It's on a pole and then there's a bowl and it spins.
• 7:02
  Oscar Navarro: But it spins like kind of weird and they like get going and you can't stop.
• 7:06
  Oscar Navarro: So I weird and they like get going and you can't stop.
• 7:11
  Oscar Navarro: So I'm I've got like evie, she's like two years old, maddie's like six, seven or eight, and she sits on it and it starts spinning out of control and she's like holding on for dear life and I book it over there.
• 7:19
  Oscar Navarro: She falls off and I catch her by her ankle, dude, and her head like barely misses the cement and I caught her and it was one of those moments like oh but no one was there.
• 7:31
  Ray Comfort: No one cared at all.
• 7:32
  Ray Comfort: It was like the greatest dad moment ever no one gave her how long ago was this probably.
• 7:37
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, 10 years ago maybe, oh no, no cell phones we don't believe it would have been a dozen phones would have got it by now we don't believe you.
• 7:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's funny like we live life through captured imagery.
• 7:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you guys ever done this where you're trying to rewind real-time moment in life?
• 7:53
  Emeal Zwayne: No, seriously, I've had that like, oh, let me.
• 7:56
  Emeal Zwayne: No, I can't Like a person.
• 7:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, like an event, something that just happened Because we're so used to being able to watch things over again.
• 8:05
  Emeal Zwayne: What are you two?
• 8:06
  Ray Comfort: doing, we found it.
• 8:07
  Emeal Zwayne: What the face?
• 8:07
  Emeal Zwayne: The actual face?
• 8:08
  Emeal Zwayne: You're going to buy one, right?
• 8:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, I missed that thing.
• 8:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, that's the one.
• 8:12
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, oh, yes, please, mark, it's one of my favorite things.
• 8:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Show the camera.
• 8:20
  Mark Spence: Show the cameras.
• 8:20
  Mark Spence: We can prove that Ray was wrong.
• 8:21
  Mark Spence: There's Ray's phone number and address in the corner.
• 8:24
  Mark Spence: Get that online.
• 8:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Alright, Friends, time for a cool, classy comment.
• 8:29
  Emeal Zwayne: This is from Lisa Tannis.
• 8:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Hey guys, I recently started listening to your podcast and absolutely love it.
• 8:35
  Emeal Zwayne: You guys are so funny and knowledgeable about the Word of God.
• 8:38
  Emeal Zwayne: I learn a lot from you all.
• 8:40
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm looking forward to your streaming service.
• 8:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Love your books.
• 8:43
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, Thank you for your amazing podcast and resources on livingwaterscom.
• 8:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Hey, thank you, by the way, Lisa, Very encouraging.
• 8:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Lisa mentioned something very important our streaming service, Oscar.
• 8:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Tell the people about our streaming service.
• 9:00
  Oscar Navarro: I'm not going to listen to it now.
• 9:01
  Oscar Navarro: We have so much content.
• 9:04
  Oscar Navarro: We've got 10 seasons, almost now, of Way of the Master.
• 9:09
  Oscar Navarro: We've got video of Ray preaching the gospel all the way back from, I think, the seventies it goes as early as that.
• 9:15
  Oscar Navarro: We've got so much stuff that we've produced over the course of the years that and we've never been able to put it all in one spot.
• 9:21
  Oscar Navarro: Often, when somebody comes up to me and asks like hey, where can I watch Way of the Master, it's like you can watch season five on this channel, season seven on that channel, and so we decided to create a streaming service that's going to house pretty much everything we've ever done.
• 9:36
  Oscar Navarro: It's going to be one login.
• 9:37
  Oscar Navarro: You're going to be able to hop in there and watch it all all of our movies, all of our TV shows and, for you, podcast listeners, you're going to be able to watch the podcast being recorded.
• 9:48
  Oscar Navarro: You'll be able to see our faces and our expressions.
• 9:52
  Oscar Navarro: It's going to be a totally different experience for you, and all of this will be happening very soon.
• 9:56
  Oscar Navarro: You can go to livingwaterstv to sign up so that you can be one of the first to know when it launches.
• 10:03
  Oscar Navarro: And when it launches, we're going to do a discount for the first 90 days, so you'll want to stay tuned for that.
• 10:10
  Ray Comfort: So don't we have some teaching from teachers around the?
• 10:12
  Oscar Navarro: world, that's true, yeah.
• 10:14
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, mark, you want to talk about the Equip.
• 10:16
  Mark Spence: So there's many different branches of Living Waters TV, and one of the branches that we're very excited about is called Living Waters Equip, where we've brought in the top professors, theologians, pastors and teachers to answer in a street, apologetic way, the top questions that you get out on the street.
• 10:30
  Mark Spence: Right, why the Bible and not the Bhagavad Gita?
• 10:33
  Mark Spence: Give us your two, three-minute answer.
• 10:35
  Mark Spence: Right, because when you're out on the street and you're witnessing, you do not have 30 minutes to talk to someone.
• 10:40
  Mark Spence: It's not a monologue, it's a dialogue.
• 10:43
  Mark Spence: Yeah, so how do you get right to it?
• 10:45
  Ray Comfort: So we're really excited about it.
• 10:49
  Mark Spence: Give me some teachers.
• 10:50
  Mark Spence: We have Emile Zwane, we have Oscar Navarro.
• 10:54
  Oscar Navarro: We have Ray Comfort.
• 10:56
  Ray Comfort: We have.
• 10:56
  Mark Spence: Mark Spence.
• 10:58
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, actually I'll give you a list.
• 11:00
  Ray Comfort: Votie Bochum.
• 11:00
  Ray Comfort: Votie Bochum.
• 11:01
  Oscar Navarro: Bochum, sorry, let me give you an example.
• 11:03
  Oscar Navarro: Ray asked me a street question.
• 11:08
  Ray Comfort: You think you're a good person.
• 11:09
  Ray Comfort: I don't know.
• 11:13
  Mark Spence: Okay, we do have a good list of people.
• 11:14
  Mark Spence: We have your pastor, Bruce Garner he's wonderful.
• 11:16
  Mark Spence: We have Bill McKeever dealing with Mormonism.
• 11:20
  Mark Spence: We have Edward DeCour Dr Edward DeCour.
• 11:24
  Mark Spence: We have Eric Hoven, Frank Turek, Greg Kokel, Jay Warner, Wallace, James White, Jay Smith dealing with Islam.
• 11:29
  Mark Spence: Jay Smith dealing with Islam, Jeff Urban, Jesse Johnson, Justin Peters, Ken Ham, Kent Hughes, Kurt Cameron, Matt Shuckleford, Matt Slick, Mike Gendron with Catholicism, Mike Riccardi, Mike Weiner.
• 11:41
  Oscar Navarro: Steven Seagal.
• 11:41
  Oscar Navarro: Steven Seagal Owen.
• 11:43
  Mark Spence: Stratton Joe Biden, bill Johnson, joe Biden.
• 11:46
  Mark Spence: How, joe Biden, bill Johnson, joe Biden.
• 11:47
  Mark Spence: How did he get on that list?
• 11:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Kamala Harris All right guys.
• 11:51
  Ray Comfort: Anyway, that was about half the list.
• 11:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so that was a radically revolutionary resource.
• 11:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I'll throw one more in God doesn't believe in atheists.
• 11:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Proof that the atheist does not exist.
• 12:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Ray, when did you write that book?
• 12:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know, no it was about 1992.
• 12:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, love that title, one of my favorite titles.
• 12:09
  Ray Comfort: I sent it to a publisher.
• 12:10
  Ray Comfort: I sent it to a lot of publishers.
• 12:11
  Ray Comfort: Only one picked it up.
• 12:12
  Ray Comfort: It was because the editor gave his atheist son son-in-law the manuscript.
• 12:24
  Mark Spence: He got saved reading it and he decided to publish it.
• 12:26
  Mark Spence: What, wow, really, is that really?
• 12:27
  Ray Comfort: how that happened.
• 12:28
  Ray Comfort: Yes, yeah, is that the same book?
• 12:29
  Ray Comfort: That's right.
• 12:29
  Ray Comfort: Oh, that idiot book, american Atheist.
• 12:30
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, that was the book.
• 12:31
  Ray Comfort: It was called that Idiot Book and then you took flak for that, didn't you?
• 12:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yes, ray, I can't believe you actually went and debated someone at an atheist convention.
• 12:39
  Emeal Zwayne: It was wonderful you weren't worried they were going to poison your food.
• 12:43
  Ray Comfort: No, they gave us a big gift basket when I arrived.
• 12:46
  Ray Comfort: I told a friend I got him to try it as a cupbearer.
• 12:51
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah Was it Mark Spence Was that your cupbearer?
• 12:53
  Ray Comfort: No no, it was a guy named Ron.
• 12:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Boy.
• 12:55
  Ray Comfort: All right, France he died.
• 12:57
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, france, what was I going to say?
• 13:01
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• 13:09
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, very nice.
• 13:10
  Ray Comfort: I like that you're clarified.
• 13:11
  Ray Comfort: I'm a businessman Livingwaterscom.
• 13:13
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends.
• 13:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Today we are dealing with how to conquer your feelings.
• 13:20
  Ray Comfort: Guys, I don't know if you feel this, I didn't feel like doing this one.
• 13:22
  Ray Comfort: I didn't feel like it we should stop now.
• 13:25
  Emeal Zwayne: We don't feel like it.
• 13:26
  Emeal Zwayne: I don't know why.
• 13:27
  Emeal Zwayne: Every time I hear the word feelings it.
• 13:30
  Mark Spence: Makes you want to sing.
• 13:31
  Mark Spence: Go for it.
• 13:31
  Ray Comfort: Play me a song, you don't have to.
• 13:33
  Emeal Zwayne: Feelings Not necessary.
• 13:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Nothing more than feelings.
• 13:41
  Oscar Navarro: Our guests just left.
• 13:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, man, I'm the worst singer on the planet.
• 13:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I hope people.
• 13:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I hope people realize that, like when I sing, I know.
• 13:48
  Oscar Navarro: I'm a horrible singer.
• 13:49
  Oscar Navarro: I'm not worst singer on the planet.
• 13:49
  Oscar Navarro: I hope people realize that when I sing I know I'm a horrible singer.
• 13:50
  Oscar Navarro: I'm not trying to pretend.
• 13:52
  Mark Spence: Do you?
• 13:52
  Mark Spence: Are you serious?
• 13:53
  Mark Spence: Sometimes you're impressed.
• 13:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, sometimes I'm impressed.
• 13:57
  Emeal Zwayne: I hit a note, that's all it is, it's not the worst.
• 14:00
  Mark Spence: My son said that he absolutely loves hearing you sing.
• 14:02
  Mark Spence: Did I tell you that?
• 14:03
  Ray Comfort: Your dead son no.
• 14:04
  Oscar Navarro: He loves it.
• 14:09
  Emeal Zwayne: It, he loves it, it demonstrates his humility, yeah, for sure.
• 14:11
  Emeal Zwayne: So anyway, guys, yeah, feelings, man feelings.
• 14:14
  Ray Comfort: Hey, how are you feeling?
• 14:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Feelings.
• 14:16
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, I'm still battling that headache.
• 14:20
  Oscar Navarro: Oscar, how are you feeling Good?
• 14:21
  Oscar Navarro: You know, what's funny is, when I first got married, my wife no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 14:24
  Oscar Navarro: How are you feeling Good?
• 14:26
  Oscar Navarro: I'm feeling hungry.
• 14:28
  Ray Comfort: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 14:29
  Ray Comfort: How are you feeling Good?
• 14:30
  Ray Comfort: I'm feeling hungry.
• 14:31
  Ray Comfort: No, no, no, mark, how are you feeling?
• 14:33
  Ray Comfort: I feel good.
• 14:33
  Ray Comfort: There's none good.
• 14:34
  Ray Comfort: You don't go by feelings, thank you, I've heard that.
• 14:41
  Emeal Zwayne: With you, Ray.
• 14:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Seriously, it's gotten to a point where, before I ask the question?
• 14:43
  Ray Comfort: the answer is ringing in my ear.
• 14:43
  Ray Comfort: Okay, Ready, ready, finish this.
• 14:48
  Ray Comfort: Oscar did it.
• 14:49
  Ray Comfort: What a miracle.
• 14:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that was good.
• 14:52
  Oscar Navarro: All right, let's close in prayer.
• 14:56
  Emeal Zwayne: We're done how dumb was that?
• 14:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know, I think back to when I first got saved, because Before you know the Lord.
• 15:04
  Ray Comfort: I wonder, who started that, what, when we first did that?
• 15:07
  Ray Comfort: Are we still on?
• 15:09
  Mark Spence: Squirrel.
• 15:09
  Mark Spence: What is the etymology of the knock, squirrel, squirrel.
• 15:14
  Emeal Zwayne: But we really.
• 15:15
  Emeal Zwayne: You know, when you're a new believer, you just come off of your entire life revolving around feelings, right?
• 15:23
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, think of all the things that we used to do as unbelievers, that we never questioned for a second like, never contemplated, never had any self-introspection over, because that's just how we rolled.
• 15:33
  Emeal Zwayne: And then we get saved and all of a sudden you start to realize, little by little, you can't roll that way anymore.
• 15:41
  Emeal Zwayne: But I rode feelings like a wave with joy and glee, and that's what ruled my life.
• 15:47
  Emeal Zwayne: And when you think about You're talking about sin, yeah, like feelings.
• 15:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, yeah, sin, but also just, I guess, a sense of normalcy and pleasure in just what you feel.
• 15:59
  Emeal Zwayne: It would dictate the reason why you would make decisions.
• 16:02
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, if it feels good, do it, yeah.
• 16:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, I mean, how many times you hear people say well, I got divorced, I just wasn't feeling love for them anymore, and so you get saved?
• 16:12
  Emeal Zwayne: And then your whole world has changed because you start realizing your feelings are deceptive, your feelings are untrustworthy, your feelings are oftentimes self-centered, so it should be faithings, faithings I just made that word up Is that your new book Ray.
• 16:30
  Ray Comfort: It's obvious.
• 16:31
  Emeal Zwayne: It's very clear Faithings.
• 16:33
  Mark Spence: You know, ez, you bring up a really good point there, right?
• 16:35
  Mark Spence: We do not go by feelings For somebody to say I no longer love that person.
• 16:40
  Mark Spence: They're saying that they are no longer choosing to unconditionally and sacrificially serve that individual.
• 16:49
  Mark Spence: And that's the way we are to love our spouses and really love each other.
• 16:52
  Mark Spence: Right, love is not a feeling, it is a verb, it is an action.
• 16:57
  Mark Spence: I am committed to you even if you're never committed to me, and this is the way we approach the Word of God.
• 17:03
  Mark Spence: Right, our feelings are so fickle.
• 17:05
  Mark Spence: If I would have went by my feelings, I would have married 16 people before I met my wife.
• 17:09
  Mark Spence: But no, I wanted to wait for my actual wife.
• 17:13
  Mark Spence: Run your race as hard and as fast as you can towards the Lord and, when you're ready to get married, look around to see who kept up with you and marry that individual.
• 17:20
  Mark Spence: Martin Luther said don't allow your feelings to preach to you, because our feelings are always preaching to us.
• 17:27
  Mark Spence: We need to have a louder voice, right?
• 17:29
  Mark Spence: The sirens are always shouting and calling out to us and singing to us from those crashing rocks, and if we set ourselves on the solid rock of God's Word, well then, we're not going to be led astray.
• 17:41
  Mark Spence: Nancy Wilson worded it like this anytime our emotions drive the car, we soon end up in a ditch.
• 17:49
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, that's so profound.
• 17:51
  Emeal Zwayne: You know the flip side of that and we'll explore all this together, but feelings have been given to us by the Lord.
• 17:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Like feelings are not altogether illegitimate.
• 18:02
  Emeal Zwayne: In fact, they could be absolutely wonderful.
• 18:04
  Emeal Zwayne: So this is what you're feeling at the moment In the proper context.
• 18:07
  Emeal Zwayne: That's my current feeling.
• 18:09
  Emeal Zwayne: So, you know, it comes down to understanding your feelings, looking at them in their proper context, enjoying them when they correlate to truth and correspond to truth, and thanking the Lord for them, but being careful to not be governed and controlled and ruled by your feelings and by your emotions.
• 18:29
  Emeal Zwayne: And you know, I would also say that even before we came to know Christ, we denied our feelings on many fronts, you know.
• 18:38
  Emeal Zwayne: But it was typically in keeping with things that were associated with necessity, in the sense that it immediately impacted us Like okay, I don't feel like going to work today, and maybe we'll go with that feeling a few times in line and say we're gonna be sick.
• 18:56
  Emeal Zwayne: But we know it hits a point that if we keep doing that we're gonna lose our job.
• 18:59
  Emeal Zwayne: So we deny that feeling of not wanting to go to work and we go right.
• 19:02
  Emeal Zwayne: But I think with the unbeliever anything that doesn't deal with that sort of thing they're just going to typically go with their feelings and be ruled and governed.
• 19:13
  Mark Spence: Yeah, and here's the big problem with that I don't feel God.
• 19:17
  Mark Spence: We live in a society where the church is telling us that God is a feeling.
• 19:22
  Mark Spence: Right, I don't feel like God is with me anymore and we discount Scripture altogether.
• 19:30
  Mark Spence: Now, feelings are not a terrible thing, like you said.
• 19:32
  Mark Spence: We just can't let them rule us.
• 19:33
  Mark Spence: Macarthur worded it like this feelings are a poor foundation for marriage, but they can be a wonderful, glorious byproduct.
• 19:42
  Mark Spence: Right, you're right, god has created us like this, but we cannot allow them to rule us as headbe beams as we move forward.
• 19:49
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, you guys are bringing up a really good point, which is that there's these two narratives out there in which we see One.
• 19:55
  Oscar Navarro: There's like the cultural narratives, that your feelings are what defines you.
• 20:01
  Oscar Navarro: Right?
• 20:01
  Oscar Navarro: So many people are told today like, whatever you feel, you need to go out and express your feelings, get it off your chest, let it out, just be honest.
• 20:09
  Oscar Navarro: Those feelings is what define you, and once you express that, then the world around you needs to conform to the feeling that you're having about yourself.
• 20:25
  Oscar Navarro: Feelings is how we understand, how the world tells us that we should pursue truth.
• 20:27
  Oscar Navarro: Right, it's not like you don't hear people say I think.
• 20:29
  Oscar Navarro: They say I feel.
• 20:29
  Oscar Navarro: You know, feelings is how we perceive truth, and the problem is our feelings are incredibly inconsistent.
• 20:36
  Oscar Navarro: I like to always say like.
• 20:37
  Oscar Navarro: Sometimes I feel like being really healthy, and then I wake up in the morning and I feel like a breakfast burrito.
• 20:42
  Oscar Navarro: You know what I mean.
• 20:43
  Oscar Navarro: When kids are really little, they feel like there's a monster in their closet.
• 20:48
  Oscar Navarro: Our feelings are inconsistent and to try to use them as governing tools to our lives, as Mark said, it'll leave you to a road ditch.
• 20:56
  Oscar Navarro: Now, the other problem too and this is what you're alluding to is that the response is very humish.
• 21:02
  Oscar Navarro: David Hume was this philosopher and he talked about feelings as like this rabid dog that needs to be reined in, that we need to be less of emotional creatures, that we need to suck it up and just think our way through life.
• 21:15
  Oscar Navarro: But this is also not a biblical view of what it means to be a person, and you hit it on the head easy.
• 21:21
  Oscar Navarro: Our emotions, our feelings, are gifts from the, from the God who created us, and they are given to us to be road signs to better understand our own heart.
• 21:36
  Oscar Navarro: Our emotions, our feelings flow from our affections, the things that we love, the things that we worship, and so your feelings.
• 21:46
  Oscar Navarro: They don't define you, but they will inform you.
• 21:50
  Oscar Navarro: They will inform you of the idols that you have in your life, of the affections that are controlling your desires, and the Psalms do a great job of this.
• 22:00
  Oscar Navarro: Like the Psalmist, they expressed their emotions, but their emotions help them to know their own hearts and then to worship the God of their, the creator of their lives, wow.
• 22:13
  Emeal Zwayne: That's so good.
• 22:14
  Emeal Zwayne: Oscar Ray, you often talk about fear in the sense that fear can be your friend because it can keep you from doing something stupid and dangerous, and so forth.
• 22:29
  Emeal Zwayne: But we also know that sometimes for the Christian, there are what are called irrational fears, and the reason why these fears are irrational is because they don't coincide with truth.
• 22:42
  Emeal Zwayne: So when someone is saying you know, as a born-again Christian who knows and loves God genuinely, and they bear fruit of salvation, that person says I just feel like God doesn't love me and I'm afraid, I'm fearful.
• 22:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, that's the kind of thing that's associated with feeling.
• 23:03
  Emeal Zwayne: What do you say to the Christian who's in that realm?
• 23:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I get these feelings and they just affect my life.
• 23:08
  Ray Comfort: That's scary Now irrational fears.
• 23:14
  Ray Comfort: I think we deal with a lot of things in life because we live in a fallen creation.
• 23:18
  Ray Comfort: It's a battle between the carnal mind and the spiritual mind, the Adam and the new man in Christ, and what we've got to do is reckon some of those feelings dead.
• 23:26
  Ray Comfort: I'm crucified with the Christ.
• 23:28
  Ray Comfort: Nevertheless, I live not I, but Christ lives in me, and the life I live now in the flesh, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me, and that's the love expressed in the cross.
• 23:37
  Ray Comfort: So that's what we look to, not to our feelings.
• 23:39
  Ray Comfort: I was almost going to be late for today's podcast.
• 23:43
  Ray Comfort: I sent you a text saying I could be a minute late.
• 23:46
  Ray Comfort: And you were very gracious and you were two minutes.
• 23:48
  Ray Comfort: No one was counting or looking and the reason I was a little late is because our television keeps turning itself back on when I turn it off.
• 23:55
  Emeal Zwayne: I've had that at my house.
• 23:56
  Emeal Zwayne: You have, we have the same TV.
• 23:57
  Emeal Zwayne: No, it's a different TV, but it's the same sort.
• 24:00
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it came back eight times.
• 24:03
  Ray Comfort: I was going to leave it.
• 24:04
  Ray Comfort: It, as I was going to leave, it, would come back on it would go off for about 30 seconds.
• 24:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Are you sure Lucy didn't have a remote?
• 24:10
  Ray Comfort: No, she didn't have a remote, but it's been doing it for a couple of months.
• 24:13
  Ray Comfort: It's just really annoying.
• 24:14
  Ray Comfort: But that's what feelings are like.
• 24:20
  Emeal Zwayne: You think you've got them under control, and yet they come back on when you least expect it.
• 24:22
  Mark Spence: The Lord gave you that experience for this analogy that reminds me I had a remote control called a TV Be Gone, and I used to attach it to my key chain.
• 24:29
  Mark Spence: I'd go inside of sporting bars.
• 24:31
  Mark Spence: Oh Mark, this is terrible.
• 24:33
  Mark Spence: It was terrible.
• 24:33
  Mark Spence: I'm bringing my confession before you.
• 24:35
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I was going to say this last week and right before somebody goes to score a touchdown or something.
• 24:39
  Mark Spence: I just I could turn off the TV and everybody was going crazy not knowing where I was at.
• 24:45
  Mark Spence: But I absolutely loved doing that.
• 24:46
  Mark Spence: That is such a marketing, all right, hey, back on subject here.
• 24:50
  Mark Spence: Did you stop?
• 24:50
  Mark Spence: No, real quick.
• 24:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember those pocket PCs before smartphones came out?
• 24:54
  Emeal Zwayne: It was like a little pocket.
• 24:56
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like a smartphone, but yeah, sort of thing.
• 24:59
  Emeal Zwayne: I had one of those and it had an app where you could control any TV and I loved it, because if you go into a doctor's office and something filthy is on you, Same concept.
• 25:09
  Mark Spence: Mark have you stopped doing that.
• 25:10
  Mark Spence: I don't have it anymore, I would use it.
• 25:12
  Mark Spence: He'll probably look it up again.
• 25:16
  Ray Comfort: It would be great to be able to preach to people.
• 25:18
  Emeal Zwayne: Go silent in some bar and say hey, the TV's off, there's no audio I was witnessing to my Lyft driver the other day and he had the radio going and I just wanted to say, can you turn that off?
• 25:27
  Emeal Zwayne: It was driving.
• 25:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean it wasn't too loud, but it was still distracting, you know so what did you do about it?
• 25:31
  Ray Comfort: this is what I've done.
• 25:32
  Ray Comfort: What you do is just say so, how's your day going?
• 25:36
  Ray Comfort: And he's like get real quiet that's yeah, right wait.
• 25:41
  Emeal Zwayne: Have you really done that?
• 25:42
  Ray Comfort: right, so you just talk quietly.
• 25:43
  Ray Comfort: That's pretty good.
• 25:44
  Ray Comfort: I'm sure I have.
• 25:44
  Emeal Zwayne: They talk quietly that's's really genius, actually.
• 25:46
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, Mark, back on topic.
• 25:48
  Mark Spence: To answer your question, I think for people who go by feelings right, there is a popular saying if it feels good, do it.
• 25:55
  Mark Spence: If you have that sort of mantra, you're actually in a popular line Not a good line, but a popular line, because Anton LaVey said something very similar.
• 26:05
  Mark Spence: Shouldn't you say who he is?
• 26:06
  Mark Spence: The Satanic Bible yeah, he's the author of the Satanic Bible.
• 26:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Let's not talk about who Mark called that one of our guests in the studio.
• 26:14
  Mark Spence: But anyway, go ahead.
• 26:14
  Mark Spence: We did have a guest that looked like Anton.
• 26:16
  Emeal Zwayne: LeVay yeah, we're not going to say who it is.
• 26:18
  Mark Spence: But I walked into the studio and I go.
• 26:19
  Mark Spence: Who invited?
• 26:20
  Mark Spence: Anton LeVay.
• 26:22
  Emeal Zwayne: You really offended him, Mark.
• 26:32
  Ray Comfort: He was super offended.
• 26:33
  Ray Comfort: Oh duh, you look like one of the world's worst Satanists.
• 26:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Stop looking like Anton LaVey, I won't call you.
• 26:38
  Mark Spence: Anton LaVey Was his first name, james, so Anyways, go ahead, mark Anton LaVey.
• 26:40
  Mark Spence: This is what he said Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law, right?
• 26:49
  Mark Spence: So do whatever you want.
• 26:50
  Mark Spence: And what do we do?
• 26:51
  Mark Spence: We do what we feel like we want to do.
• 26:52
  Mark Spence: We prioritize the things that we feel would be beneficial for us at that moment, until you become a Christian.
• 26:57
  Mark Spence: Because when you become a Christian, you are now governed by a different law.
• 27:00
  Mark Spence: You are ruled and guided by God's eye.
• 27:03
  Mark Spence: We are led by his spirit, we take refuge under the shadow of his wings and we allow him to make all of the decisions for us.
• 27:12
  Mark Spence: And we understand what his decisions are by meditating through his word.
• 27:16
  Oscar Navarro: You know, what's interesting is that you're actually even today, you're actually not governed by your emotions, you're governed by a rubric, a system in which you've accepted by the culture.
• 27:25
  Oscar Navarro: And so we think like the culture is telling us hey, go express however you feel about yourself.
• 27:30
  Oscar Navarro: But the reality is the culture is still telling us what feelings to express and what feelings to suppress.
• 27:37
  Oscar Navarro: And my prime example is this and this is someone else, way smarter than me, brought this up, brought this to my attention.
• 27:43
  Oscar Navarro: But they said if you think about it, if you think about like an Anglo-Saxon warrior walking down his village and he looks inside of himself and he sees same-sex attraction, but he also looks inside of himself and he sees rage, that he wants to go out and murder someone and take everything to his own possession, that Anglo-Saxon warrior, because of his culture, will suppress those feelings of same-sex attraction and express that feeling of rage.
• 28:09
  Oscar Navarro: Now imagine somebody walking down the street of New York and they look inside of themselves and they feel a desire to commit murder, but they also feel that desire of same-sex attraction because of the culture in which they live, they will decide to suppress the feeling of rage and express the feeling of same-sex attraction, and so the point that I'm making here is the culture is lying to you.
• 28:33
  Oscar Navarro: It's not saying you should be able to express whatever you want.
• 28:36
  Oscar Navarro: The culture has imprinted a standard of living for you in which you govern your emotions by and what we're telling you.
• 28:45
  Oscar Navarro: The beauty of the gospel is that the culture is fleeting and it's leading you to destruction, but only God knows your heart.
• 28:54
  Oscar Navarro: Only God knows who you truly are, because he is your maker and he is giving you a standard, a rubric, a filter in which will lead to your joy and will lead to everlasting life.
• 29:07
  Oscar Navarro: Wow.
• 29:11
  Ray Comfort: And the world that's giving us that culture to live in is being deceived by the spiritual cultures that they're subjected to.
• 29:15
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and ultimately traces its roots to what Scripture says about Satan, the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works, and the sons of disobedience, and we say that from the standpoint that it goes on to say among whom we all once conducted ourselves.
• 29:28
  Emeal Zwayne: So we say this with sympathy and compassion toward the unbeliever, because we were once there, ruled by our emotions and our feelings.
• 29:34
  Emeal Zwayne: But I would add to that, oscar, that was brilliantly stated, I would add to that that what the culture also does as a part of that rubric is it tells you that your feelings, no matter what they are, are valid, and so that's where they take it to the next step.
• 29:48
  Emeal Zwayne: No matter what they are are valid, and so that's where they take it to the next step.
• 29:50
  Emeal Zwayne: So it's not just I have these feelings and that's why it's that no, and my feelings are valid because they're constantly validated by the world, you know.
• 29:55
  Emeal Zwayne: And so, ray, I'm so glad Oscar brought up the issue of homosexuality.
• 29:59
  Emeal Zwayne: That's where I was going to go, and I think you dealt with that right.
• 30:03
  Emeal Zwayne: But that's the problem, right, the world is validating whatever feeling you have, and then, on top of validating, it's celebrating, because now it's not just hey, no, that's a good feeling, but we're going to make you a hero, like now.
• 30:16
  Emeal Zwayne: If you come out as homosexual, you're a hero.
• 30:18
  Emeal Zwayne: If you come out as transgender, you're a hero.
• 30:20
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, that happens as well.
• 30:24
  Emeal Zwayne: We talked about the homosexual issue, but I feel like a woman happens as well.
• 30:28
  Emeal Zwayne: We talked about the homosexual issue, but I feel like a woman I feel like a man, I feel like an animal easy needs counsel yeah, oh no I hope no one isolates, but what?
• 30:34
  Ray Comfort: yeah, what is that clip?
• 30:35
  Emeal Zwayne: please just just cut that little portion out.
• 30:39
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll drop it.
• 30:39
  Emeal Zwayne: I just did myself, yeah, yeah.
• 30:41
  Emeal Zwayne: So, ray, what do you say to people?
• 30:43
  Ray Comfort: because look, somebody feels like a woman.
• 30:45
  Emeal Zwayne: Well, I'd say what is a woman, okay, okay, that opens up, right, that whole can of worms.
• 30:50
  Emeal Zwayne: We've seen that movie before, but look, I do want to say that this has some serious connotations, because I know there's people listening right now who are inundated with that right.
• 31:03
  Emeal Zwayne: I've always said we're very impressionable and we live in a very influential age.
• 31:08
  Emeal Zwayne: It's like a stone coming up against soft clay right, where we're easily impacted and affected and influenced.
• 31:14
  Emeal Zwayne: So there's people listening for whom this is like real, because they have been brainwashed for so long that if you feel something, it must be true.
• 31:21
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, how many, how many young people have so tragically gone into homosexuality because some stupid thought or weird feeling came into their heart, because they looked at someone of the same sex and then they just, oh, that must mean I am, and then that begins to expand.
• 31:34
  Emeal Zwayne: Mark, were you going to say something?
• 31:35
  Mark Spence: Yeah, well somebody wiser than myself, which is 8 billion people on the planet, said if we do not meditate on God's word as truth, we're going to believe lies are true and this is why we buy into that idea that I'm a woman trapped in a man's body or something along that lines.
• 31:52
  Mark Spence: Right, we need to renew our mind, and scripture is very important to bring this together.
• 31:56
  Mark Spence: Right, romans 12, 2,.
• 31:56
  Mark Spence: Do not be conformed to this world, as we said earlier, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that, by the testing, you may discern what is the will of God and what is good and acceptable and perfect.
• 32:07
  Mark Spence: Or, as John Calvin worded it let the mind dwell upon the truth of God's word until it burns into your soul.
• 32:14
  Mark Spence: That's what we need to do with the word of God.
• 32:16
  Mark Spence: We don't just flippantly read a scripture, a text, our daily bread.
• 32:22
  Mark Spence: I read the verse for the day.
• 32:23
  Mark Spence: We get our news and we get our Bible intake from Instagram memes.
• 32:27
  Mark Spence: Right, there's something wrong with us.
• 32:27
  Mark Spence: We need to.
• 32:27
  Mark Spence: You can read any chapter of the day.
• 32:28
  Mark Spence: We get our news and we get our Bible intake from Instagram memes.
• 32:29
  Mark Spence: There's something wrong with us.
• 32:29
  Mark Spence: We need to.
• 32:31
  Mark Spence: You can read any chapter of the Bible in two to three minutes, except for Psalm 119.
• 32:36
  Mark Spence: Two to three minutes any chapter of the Bible.
• 32:39
  Mark Spence: And people come along and say I don't have time to read God's Word.
• 32:43
  Mark Spence: Look, you go through God's.
• 32:44
  Ray Comfort: Word.
• 32:44
  Ray Comfort: You're talking about the genealogies too.
• 32:46
  Ray Comfort: Try it while I'm reading Genesis 5, go Genesis 5.
• 32:52
  Mark Spence: Which is the first sign of the gospel.
• 32:53
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm told man appointed, mortal sorrow will teach that the blessed God shall come down, teaching that his death shall bring the despairing comfort Something like that First sign of the gospel, genesis 5.
• 33:03
  Mark Spence: That's pretty crazy, yeah, tremendous.
• 33:05
  Mark Spence: But we need to meditate on God's word so much that when an answer comes to our head, it really is just we're plagiarizing God's word, that it is God's word that came out.
• 33:16
  Mark Spence: So when I have a weird obstructed feeling to not do what God's calling me to do, I just know that it is the right thing to do.
• 33:24
  Mark Spence: And if you're a non-believer, you do this all the time actually.
• 33:27
  Mark Spence: But your three-month-old baby needs help and direction and needs to eat.
• 33:39
  Mark Spence: Guess what you do?
• 33:39
  Mark Spence: You swallow your feelings and you do that, which is right.
• 33:45
  Mark Spence: You feed your starving child, your hungry kid.
• 33:48
  Mark Spence: You're already doing it now with the Word of God.
• 33:50
  Mark Spence: Approach the Word of God much in the same way.
• 33:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Amen, yeah Easy.
• 33:55
  Ray Comfort: First mention of the gospel.
• 33:56
  Ray Comfort: Explain yourself, because a lot of people say, oh sorry, yeah, yeah, First mention of the gospel.
• 33:58
  Ray Comfort: Explain yourself because a lot of people say what was?
• 33:59
  Emeal Zwayne: that about yeah, yeah, well, again, this isn't like a Hilda Dion type thing.
• 34:02
  Ray Comfort: But it's wonderful.
• 34:04
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, but it's something that I actually.
• 34:06
  Emeal Zwayne: I heard a preacher touch on that once and I thought there's no way this can be.
• 34:12
  Emeal Zwayne: So I went myself and looked up the meaning of each word in the original and I was blown away.
• 34:18
  Emeal Zwayne: So it's a genealogy in Genesis 5, begins with Adam and it ends with Noah, and Adam means man, noah means comfort, and then with each name there's a meaning.
• 34:28
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, back then names actually had meanings, unlike today.
• 34:31
  Emeal Zwayne: We like the way they sound, but they had meanings.
• 34:32
  Emeal Zwayne: So when you put it all together, this is what it says man, beginning with Adam, is appointed mortal sorrow, but the blessed God shall come down teaching that his death shall bring the despairing, and then ends with Noah comfort.
• 34:51
  Ray Comfort: And so I mean it's mind-blowing.
• 34:54
  Emeal Zwayne: Again, maybe I need to look at it deeper.
• 34:56
  Emeal Zwayne: We're not into hidden messages in the Bible and stuff like that, just a little disclaimer.
• 35:01
  Emeal Zwayne: But it's interesting enough to explore.
• 35:03
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and if you didn't follow.
• 35:04
  Mark Spence: That's just simply the etymology of each name.
• 35:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Right, yeah, that you're following the names In succession and order.
• 35:09
  Emeal Zwayne: That's right.
• 35:09
  Mark Spence: From Adam to Noah Adam Seth, enosh, kenan Mahalel, jared Enoch, methuselah, lamech, noah, following all those with the name you come up with.
• 35:18
  Oscar Navarro: That I thought you were referring to Genesis 3.15, which is Proto-Evangelion, which is that someone will come to crush the head of the serpent, which is known from a theological perspective as the first sign of the gospel.
• 35:31
  Oscar Navarro: Yeah, true, that too.
• 35:31
  Emeal Zwayne: Proto-Evangelion Right, right, but yeah, we were just talking about the name.
• 35:34
  Ray Comfort: Boy, that'd make a great little tract.
• 35:36
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oh yeah, Ryan, oh yeah.
• 35:38
  Emeal Zwayne: Ryan, it's down Tanya, watch around.
• 35:52
  Ray Comfort: Oh, it's turned around.
• 35:53
  Ray Comfort: What is this?
• 35:54
  Ray Comfort: I hadn't seen that yet.
• 35:54
  Ray Comfort: You don't know what that is.
• 35:56
  Ray Comfort: I don't know what that is, I hadn't seen it, but I my words, do something for someone.
• 35:59
  Ray Comfort: Turn my watch around.
• 36:00
  Ray Comfort: I get reminded in a few minutes.
• 36:01
  Ray Comfort: But what happens if you have to?
• 36:02
  Oscar Navarro: do it twice, do what twice.
• 36:04
  Oscar Navarro: Turn your watch around twice.
• 36:06
  Emeal Zwayne: You have two different ideas.
• 36:07
  Emeal Zwayne: You need to get another watch, two watches.
• 36:08
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, I've got a watch from too tight.
• 36:16
  Emeal Zwayne: I said, ray, you can get different bands, I can't.
• 36:19
  Emeal Zwayne: I'm a $10 Walmart watch.
• 36:22
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, it's $12.
• 36:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, whoa Moving on up.
• 36:26
  Ray Comfort: Actually, I get them online now.
• 36:28
  Ray Comfort: I don't repair the battery, I just get another watch.
• 36:30
  Ray Comfort: It's so cheap, just get a drawer full of them.
• 36:34
  Ray Comfort: So I got a question about this whole thing, see if this happens to a can of worms.
• 36:37
  Emeal Zwayne: We are getting derailed today.
• 36:39
  Emeal Zwayne: Go ahead.
• 36:43
  Ray Comfort: Are women more likely to be governed by feelings than men?
• 36:47
  Ray Comfort: It's a good question, see ya, because they are more emotional.
• 36:51
  Emeal Zwayne: We should have asked Rachel when we had her here.
• 36:53
  Ray Comfort: They're more emotional.
• 36:54
  Ray Comfort: They're more tender than men.
• 36:56
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, look, I would say there's nothing wrong with us acknowledging that there are things that we may be more susceptible toward because of our makeup as men and women.
• 37:05
  Emeal Zwayne: That's a part of you wear makeup.
• 37:08
  Oscar Navarro: We need to isolate all of these little statements, oh that's right, I'm a woman, I wear makeup.
• 37:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You know what?
• 37:14
  Emeal Zwayne: You don't even have to do that with AI now.
• 37:17
  Emeal Zwayne: It could take your voice and make you say all kinds of things.
• 37:20
  Ray Comfort: I would say, probably as a general consensus and a general truth, that yeah women may be more susceptible to be moved by men, but they can be more empathetic than men.
• 37:31
  Oscar Navarro: Absolutely, there's a good side to it.
• 37:33
  Oscar Navarro: Right, Let me look at this from a cultural perspective and I'm kind of live processing the question, which I would say that I would say that we probably have a perception of emotions in which we think well, that is an emotional behavior, when we don't realize that all of us are being governed by some emotion at some point in time.
• 37:52
  Oscar Navarro: And I would also say that, like culturally speaking, if you look at the way men, for example, pursued emotional expression in the Old Testament, they were way more expressive than women.
• 38:05
  Oscar Navarro: The psalmists are written by men, mostly all men and so I would say that we probably perceive the emotions of women greater than we perceive our own emotions, Because I think that men are pretty emotional, Although side note, this is kind of funny.
• 38:23
  Oscar Navarro: I was gonna say this earlier that when I first got married, my wife used to be like man, you don't have feelings, and I go.
• 38:29
  Oscar Navarro: What do you mean?
• 38:30
  Oscar Navarro: I feel hungry, I feel tired.
• 38:34
  Emeal Zwayne: I feel bored.
• 38:35
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I mean, I think that, based on again, how we're designed and what God made women for, I would say I mean and again it's hard to really pinpoint it exactly and to articulate it but I think that obviously men and women both feel, of course we do.
• 38:56
  Emeal Zwayne: That's the whole point and that's what leads us, but I would say that women's feelings are probably more accentuated than men's.
• 39:03
  Emeal Zwayne: On on in, in specific areas especially and again that's not a bad thing Like immediately someone talks about it's like oh, what are you trying to say?
• 39:11
  Emeal Zwayne: No, we're just saying that women, you know, have a more accentuated feelings and sometimes that can lead to more negative things.
• 39:20
  Emeal Zwayne: It doesn't have to but In a positive way, like their empathy towards children.
• 39:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, in those positive senses, absolutely, yeah, so so we like women.
• 39:31
  Oscar Navarro: I like one of them basically Me too.
• 39:37
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
• 39:37
  Emeal Zwayne: So, mark, what do we say to believers right now who are listening and they say I try to control my feelings, I hear what you're saying like, okay, truth, truth, truth.
• 39:47
  Emeal Zwayne: But what do I do if they just keep just coming up, like the TV keeps coming back on?
• 39:52
  Mark Spence: Yeah, how do I deal with them?
• 39:54
  Mark Spence: Well, remember, scripture tells us that the fruit of the Spirit not the fruits of the Spirit, but the fruit of the Spirit is for those that have memorized it love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, Self-control.
• 40:04
  Mark Spence: Self-control right.
• 40:05
  Mark Spence: So self-control is one layer of somebody who is born again.
• 40:10
  Mark Spence: So if you're a Christian, you have self-control.
• 40:13
  Mark Spence: A lemon tree will never produce an apple.
• 40:16
  Mark Spence: A lemon tree will never produce an apple.
• 40:17
  Mark Spence: It's absolutely impossible.
• 40:17
  Mark Spence: And if you see a lemon tree producing apples, throw it in the trash because it's not.
• 40:22
  Ray Comfort: Well, actually you could sell it to Ray, yeah.
• 40:25
  Mark Spence: Craft it in.
• 40:26
  Mark Spence: So we are designed within our biblical DNA to produce a fruit that is heavenward.
• 40:32
  Mark Spence: Our roots grow upward.
• 40:34
  Mark Spence: So when somebody says, well, listen, I have all the fruits of the Spirit except for self-control.
• 40:37
  Mark Spence: Well, listen, I have all the fruits of the Spirit except for self-control.
• 40:39
  Mark Spence: Well then you need to examine your faith, to see if you're in the faith.
• 40:43
  Mark Spence: Examine yourself, because you will have self-control as a believer.
• 40:48
  Mark Spence: Sure you're going to grow and sure you're going to mature.
• 40:50
  Mark Spence: You're going to be sanctified.
• 40:51
  Mark Spence: You're going to change from glory to glory as you learn, precept upon precept.
• 40:54
  Mark Spence: However, there's not going to be something that God's going to withhold from you.
• 40:59
  Mark Spence: And in this area, you could say well, I don't have the ability to do what you're asking me to do, or I have only the ability to do this thing over here, which might be sinful.
• 41:10
  Emeal Zwayne: That's simply not the case, yeah that's good, mark, and I would say too.
• 41:14
  Emeal Zwayne: To sum it up, I think this word really helps us when it comes to feelings that are contrary to truth Ignore them.
• 41:21
  Emeal Zwayne: Ignore them, don't feed them.
• 41:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't allow them to have oxygen to stay alive like a fire.
• 41:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't feed them so that they can continue to grow.
• 41:32
  Mark Spence: Not one peak, even Nope.
• 41:34
  Mark Spence: Or, as the dyslexic people say, not even one peak.
• 41:38
  Ray Comfort: So where's that?
• 41:39
  Emeal Zwayne: from oh boy, from my book Fight Like a man a Biblical Battle for Personal Purity, available now.
• 41:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, wait, I was going to say something it's available.
• 41:49
  Emeal Zwayne: It's available right now.
• 41:51
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, people can get it now For sale on Amazoncom, whoa.
• 41:54
  Oscar Navarro: And LivingWaterscom yes.
• 41:56
  Emeal Zwayne: What was?
• 41:57
  Ray Comfort: I going to say how to make your memory improve.
• 42:00
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh, ignore them, Don't feed them, don't give in to them, ray.
• 42:06
  Emeal Zwayne: Someone says I don't feel like sharing the gospel.
• 42:11
  Ray Comfort: Go.
• 42:11
  Ray Comfort: I'm one of them.
• 42:12
  Ray Comfort: I don't like sharing.
• 42:17
  Mark Spence: What Cognitive test?
• 42:22
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, I really don't like feeling sharing the gospel.
• 42:24
  Ray Comfort: I've got a lazy boy recliner, I've got a nice big TV, I've got a remote.
• 42:28
  Ray Comfort: I feel like just staying here.
• 42:30
  Ray Comfort: That's the feeling I get every day.
• 42:31
  Ray Comfort: But I don't go by feelings.
• 42:33
  Ray Comfort: I go by the fact that people are going to hell and so I get on my electric bike, put my sunglasses on my dog and go there and come back feeling really good.
• 42:40
  Ray Comfort: We call it dragon feet, clicking heels, ministry.
• 42:43
  Ray Comfort: And when you look at the book of Acts, the disciples seem to drag their feet when they're going to come back clicking the heels, rejoicing.
• 42:49
  Ray Comfort: And that's exactly what happens Every time you go to share the gospel.
• 42:52
  Ray Comfort: It's going to be dragging your feet, negative feelings.
• 42:53
  Ray Comfort: You come ragging your feet, negative feelings.
• 42:54
  Ray Comfort: You come back rejoicing because you've been obedient to the Great Commission.
• 42:58
  Emeal Zwayne: Wow, and that's discipline.
• 43:00
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, oscar, that must be encouraging to people.
• 43:03
  Emeal Zwayne: They just heard Ray Comfort everyone knows Ray's reputation when it comes to evangelism saying I don't feel like sharing the gospel, I mean we can all, as a community of God's people, say, hey, yeah, we understand, like fully, like really understand, and I think sometimes people get that sense of like nah, no, but we really mean it, like, yeah, you guys see us preaching the gospel on the streets.
• 43:25
  Emeal Zwayne: You see us.
• 43:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Sure, are there times when maybe there's some excitement in it?
• 43:28
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that does happen, but a lot of times we don't feel like it and so hopefully that should be an encouragement to people, absolutely.
• 43:37
  Oscar Navarro: I mean, look to Jesus.
• 43:38
  Oscar Navarro: He didn't stand before the cross and go.
• 43:40
  Oscar Navarro: I'm feeling this right now, Right.
• 43:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Remember Jesus in Gethsemane, right Father, if there's any way, this cup can pass from me.
• 43:47
  Emeal Zwayne: So why did?
• 43:47
  Oscar Navarro: he do it For the joy set before him, knowing of the fruit that would come from his obedience, not that emotional moment.
• 43:58
  Oscar Navarro: And that is the same reason why we share the gospel knowing the fruit that's gonna come from our obedience, the joy set before us.
• 44:06
  Oscar Navarro: And I would just say one other thing in regards to like those feelings, like what do we do with them, I would, as a reminder, I said at the top of this episode your feelings are a window to your own heart and Jeremiah 17, 9 says the heart is deceitful, above all things, and desperately sick.
• 44:23
  Oscar Navarro: Who could understand it?
• 44:25
  Oscar Navarro: So, ignore your feelings.
• 44:26
  Oscar Navarro: I would say, don't allow your feelings to dictate your actions.
• 44:32
  Oscar Navarro: Rather, look at your feelings as an opportunity to better understand the condition of your heart what area of my life am I not submitting to the Lord?
• 44:43
  Oscar Navarro: And then look at that as an opportunity for repentance.
• 44:46
  Oscar Navarro: Amen.
• 44:46
  Emeal Zwayne: I mean, guys, seriously, are there not enough examples in our lives where we didn't feel like doing something?
• 44:52
  Emeal Zwayne: We did it, and then we can look back and say I'm so glad, Ray, I think of Mario, it's very likely you didn't feel like going out that day.
• 44:59
  Ray Comfort: I felt like driving past him on my bike.
• 45:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Oh really.
• 45:02
  Ray Comfort: Yes.
• 45:02
  Mark Spence: You remember exactly I actually went past him.
• 45:04
  Mark Spence: What are we talking about?
• 45:04
  Mark Spence: Real quick Mario.
• 45:06
  Ray Comfort: There's a video out called Mario, which seems to bring everyone to tears.
• 45:10
  Ray Comfort: How many millions?
• 45:11
  Ray Comfort: 4.5 or something like that, and I was just a Sunday afternoon and I go past this guy who's standing by a tree and the immediate feeling I had was he wouldn't be interested in going on camera because Huntington Beach 50 people will turn down an invitation to come on camera before we get one.
• 45:27
  Ray Comfort: When it's at the local college, it's about one in 20 will come on.
• 45:31
  Ray Comfort: And going through that area that I go in, most people say no, no, because I'm a stranger just going past like I'm on YouTube.
• 45:38
  Ray Comfort: But he says yes and away we went and I'm so glad.
• 45:41
  Ray Comfort: It's a highlight and often when I pray I say Lord, please give me a Mario today.
• 45:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, mark, I think of the number of people.
• 45:49
  Emeal Zwayne: I think what if you didn't feel like and you probably didn't that day when you went to Huntington and you ended up witnessing to those three young ladies that are in the what Is it movie?
• 45:58
  Mark Spence: right, yeah, that's exactly right.
• 45:59
  Mark Spence: And before I forget, if you want to watch the encounter that Ray had with Mario, go to our YouTube channel, living Waters, and it's entitled.
• 46:07
  Mark Spence: He Didn't Care About God, but Was In Tears After Hearing this 4.4 million views.
• 46:16
  Mark Spence: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 46:18
  Mark Spence: I don't know if you remember this, izzy, but when I went down to huntington beach to get interviews for our movie what is it?
• 46:25
  Mark Spence: I was sitting in my car for about 45 minutes talking myself out of going and witnessing and sharing the gospel.
• 46:32
  Mark Spence: I went up and down the pier all the way to the edge, probably about three, three or four times.
• 46:37
  Mark Spence: I went back to my car, sat in my car and then I sent texts out to a bunch of different people saying I do not feel like being here today.
• 46:43
  Mark Spence: I don't want to, but I know this is where I need to be, and I just dragged my feet for probably two hours before I actually went up and down.
• 46:51
  Mark Spence: And then I went underneath the pier and I saw these three girls who were watching these guys play volleyball, and then I went up to them.
• 46:58
  Mark Spence: I asked them if they were willing to come on camera and to share their thoughts on a moral dilemma.
• 47:02
  Mark Spence: During the interview they found out that it was about abortion, but they wanted to go down by the water, away from everybody, so that they wouldn't be seen with an old man.
• 47:10
  Mark Spence: That's really what they said to me.
• 47:11
  Mark Spence: And then, once I got the interview of those three, people Well, I'm glad I didn't meet them.
• 47:16
  Ray Comfort: The interview of those three people Well I'm glad.
• 47:18
  Mark Spence: I didn't meet them, that ancient man, that ancient man.
• 47:24
  Mark Spence: And then when I got that interview, I did what Ray does when he gets a good interview you get out of there as fast as you possibly can before they change their mind.
• 47:29
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and what a beautiful encounter that was.
• 47:33
  Emeal Zwayne: And again, all of us can testify to that.
• 47:35
  Emeal Zwayne: When I witnessed to Davin at Huntington Beach, it has like over half a million views now.
• 47:41
  Emeal Zwayne: That Jewish guy Again.
• 47:43
  Emeal Zwayne: It was like yeah.
• 47:45
  Emeal Zwayne: I didn't really feel like it that day but, by God's grace, we went down to Comic-Con and I was witnessing to people, and I was witnessing to this one girl and guy that were dressed up like Ghostbusters and I'm witnessing to them.
• 47:58
  Emeal Zwayne: It was going well and then she just like turned on me and just got really nasty and accused me of stealing, like trying to steal her stuff, because she left her bag on the ground and then walked away.
• 48:09
  Emeal Zwayne: And it's like you tried, what are you talking about?
• 48:11
  Emeal Zwayne: Did that get filmed?
• 48:12
  Emeal Zwayne: So I was so discouraged, like after that I'm like'm like oh, and I still had to keep going and we're doing getting encounters and tanny put together a video of it and it went totally viral yeah we put it up what is it a week ago or so days ago?
• 48:25
  Emeal Zwayne: 471 000 views right now and then the full video will be coming out here pretty soon we're gonna do the full video, because people are saying I want to see the full video and so that's good when something like that happens.
• 48:36
  Ray Comfort: I happen to have a cameraman that comes to me every Saturday at Huntington Beach, yale.
• 48:42
  Emeal Zwayne: Yale, he will prevail.
• 48:43
  Emeal Zwayne: He's the one that we will help he's trying to get me to slap someone's face while I'm witnessing to them so he can film it Slap slap.
• 48:49
  Oscar Navarro: I was just thinking real quick of Pita I was deathly afraid of preaching to that guy.
• 48:54
  Oscar Navarro: He looked like he wanted to break me in hand In Fiji, in Fiji, but then I preached to him and everything that led after that, including preaching to the ladies.
• 49:01
  Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, this was a guy, and Oscar witnessed him.
• 49:04
  Emeal Zwayne: He was in tears and he says I want to take you to my village and we go to the village, and I want to take you to my chief right, my chief, yeah, In the village.
• 49:11
  Emeal Zwayne: And so we go and the chief wasn't there.
• 49:13
  Emeal Zwayne: His wife was.
• 49:13
  Emeal Zwayne: She takes us to the chief's parents' house.
• 49:16
  Emeal Zwayne: We all sit on the ground and I share the gospel with the family and the chief's wife starts to cry and she just was like we're so blessed that you've come here to share this news with us.
• 49:26
  Ray Comfort: So this is season 10 of the Way of the Most High.
• 49:28
  Ray Comfort: Yeah, not out yet, that's right.
• 49:29
  Oscar Navarro: But it will be on livingwaterstv Full circle.
• 49:40
  Emeal Zwayne: So, friends there, this is something I wrote years ago Do what you know is right, despite what you feel, what you think and what the circumstances are influencing you to do.
• 49:48
  Emeal Zwayne: Do what is right.
• 49:50
  Emeal Zwayne: And my other saying is do what's right.
• 49:52
  Emeal Zwayne: Be at rest, because at the end of the day, that's all that we can do.
• 49:55
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't let your feelings rule you.
• 49:57
  Emeal Zwayne: There are souls that God wants to save.
• 49:59
  Emeal Zwayne: There are people that he wants to touch through you.
• 50:02
  Emeal Zwayne: There are so many things that you can do for the glory of God and his kingdom in this world.
• 50:08
  Emeal Zwayne: If you just deny yourself, deny your feelings, really take up your cross, die to self, die to your feelings and follow him, and the Lord will do great things.
• 50:17
  Ray Comfort: How do you feel it went today?
• 50:20
  Emeal Zwayne: Wunderbar, Wunderbar.
• 50:22
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, there you have it.
• 50:24
  Emeal Zwayne: Thanks for joining us.
• 50:25
  Emeal Zwayne: Don't forget, God doesn't believe in atheists.
• 50:26
  Emeal Zwayne: Prove that atheism doesn't exist.
• 50:27
  Emeal Zwayne: And the Living Waters TV.
• 50:30
  Emeal Zwayne: Just look for it.
• 50:36
  Ray Comfort: And the Living Waters the Bible Living Waters Easy, Someone might be watching this on double speed.
• 50:39
  Emeal Zwayne: What about now?
• 50:39
  Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, there you have it.
• 50:40
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• 50:44
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, yeah, one of those good things.
• 50:46
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us, friends.
• 50:47
  Emeal Zwayne: We'll see you here next time on the Living Waters Podcast, where we have no idea what we feel.
• 50:57
  Emeal Zwayne: Thank you.