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Gordie Chiesa on the NBA Playoffs, Pistons on the brink of elimination, Wemby critical of NBA concussion protocol + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day, My list today. Here's oc with basketball Saban
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  Speaker 2: Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell show Man.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome here, Gordy Chiasa, our resident NBA Google brought to
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  Speaker 4: you by Latin Industries, your Utah v Lux Steeler.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, how are you, sir, Sean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. I'm recovering from last night's hockey game
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  Speaker 1: where I watched the last half in the overtime and
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  Speaker 1: my body still hurts watching it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think painful for a lot of reasons, for
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  Speaker 4: all of us, and interestingly, Gordy, I feel as though
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  Speaker 4: I have neglected the NBA playoffs because of what's happening
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  Speaker 4: with NHL hockey.
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  Speaker 3: Here in our home. Mark it. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm watching the rest of the Western Conference, I'm
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  Speaker 4: watching the Utah Mammoth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking my notes and then I'm like.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wait a second, what's what's to say on Sports
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  Speaker 4: Center it says that the Orlando Magic might knock off
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  Speaker 4: the number one seed in the East.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on with the Magic and the Pistons?
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  Speaker 1: Gordon Tommy Year as far as basketball and hockey, And
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  Speaker 1: let's the one catch where it is always in playoffs
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  Speaker 1: is intensity and execution, and whether they're hockey, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: basketball or the NFL, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: So so give me a sense of what's going on
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  Speaker 4: in this Magic versus Pistons series.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the first thing is that the defense is so
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  Speaker 1: fierce on both teams that nobody can score. So last night,
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  Speaker 1: the winning team, the Magic won at home ninety four
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  Speaker 1: eighty eighth Sewan, where the Magic shot in the field
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  Speaker 1: at very icy thirty three percent and they won the game.
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  Speaker 1: Star players of Power Banko and Jalen Subbs combined shoot
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  Speaker 1: five to thirty one and their team still won. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason why they run is because the Pistons they
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  Speaker 1: had no answers as fathers scoring the ball themselves. They
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  Speaker 1: shot an icy thirty eight percent. But the worst part
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  Speaker 1: about it they committed twenty turnovers. And that's on. You
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  Speaker 1: can't do that. You cannot have high turn of a
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  Speaker 1: ratio and win a playoff game because every possession does matter,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they're doing it. So the Magic point
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  Speaker 1: of view in the big picture is that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to try to attempt to knock off the first seed.
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  Speaker 1: They're the eight seed, the Magic, and it'll be the
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  Speaker 1: Magic's first If they do this, it will be their
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  Speaker 1: first playoff series win in sixteen years, since twenty ten.
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  Speaker 1: So they're doing it on defense. And Detroit, even though
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  Speaker 1: they won fifty games this past season, which is absolutely commendable,
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  Speaker 1: they're being exposed their lack of what the overall scoring
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  Speaker 1: the might escape cunning him, and so they got to
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  Speaker 1: address that. Quote. If they get past this round, which
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  Speaker 1: will be by them, will be a miracle, but if next
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  Speaker 1: next offseason, they've got to address that. As far as
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  Speaker 1: their offensive in neptness, I.
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  Speaker 4: Know you already talked about the low shooting percentage for
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  Speaker 4: both teams here, But for Cunningham, who is the number
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  Speaker 4: one scoring option for Detroit, what he was seven to
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  Speaker 4: twenty three from the field, three of eleven from the
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  Speaker 4: three point line going to the regular field goals? Is
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  Speaker 4: it a shot selection problem for him? A cold night
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  Speaker 4: where you just kind of there's a lid on the
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  Speaker 4: rim and there's nothing really to explain it. When you
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  Speaker 4: see that kind of performance out of a guy who
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  Speaker 4: your team needs to score, is there a way to
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  Speaker 4: improve it with coaching, with practice, with execution.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one execution but two more shots unbalanced, So the physicality.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're a star player in the NBA, as
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  Speaker 1: far as a scorer, the defense is so trying to
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  Speaker 1: take away your easier looks. So I call this all
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  Speaker 1: the time with most star players, it's a blend of
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  Speaker 1: ballet and wrestling during the game. And that the people
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  Speaker 1: are is that can overcome that. They invest the booth
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  Speaker 1: arts form where they can score the ball airborne, but
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  Speaker 1: yet they can still roll with people in the lane,
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  Speaker 1: and so you have to understand that they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: stop you. It's a ballet and wrestling on the same possession.
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  Speaker 1: And so you've got to be able to score through physicality,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a learning experience showing and it's painful. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what the playoffs. There's nothing regular but the NBA playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: During a regular season, it's a LoveFest. I call it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's shooting frees. It's a you know, most teams install players,
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  Speaker 1: they're free flowing. You get to the playoffs, it's absolutely
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  Speaker 1: a half court game and it's grind out and you
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  Speaker 1: have to be strong mentally and physically.
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  Speaker 4: With that in mind, GORDI, how many teams have the
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  Speaker 4: experience in the play because if you're playing the regular
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  Speaker 4: season a certain way and then the game shifts so
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  Speaker 4: dramatically when you get to playoff basketball, how many teams
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  Speaker 4: are equipped for that, like you said, either mentally or physically, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And the Easter would be the Celts absolutely, and
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  Speaker 1: the half of the Knicks, a half of them, and
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  Speaker 1: besides the half in the West, it's the Thunder, the
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  Speaker 1: t Wolves, the Lakers, half of the Nuggets, and a
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  Speaker 1: half of the Spurs, and I'd say the Spurs only
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  Speaker 1: half because the talent level is really high. They haven't
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  Speaker 1: done it yet, and so let's make some un given
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  Speaker 1: a half the t Wolves believe it or not. The
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  Speaker 1: way they play, they're physical and even though they showed
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  Speaker 1: their heart and courage. I know they lost last night
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  Speaker 1: because the Nuggets showed what they're all about. But before
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  Speaker 1: that happening is that the t Wolves. Let's not forget
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  Speaker 1: they advanced the conference finals. Back to back seasons, so
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  Speaker 1: they know what it takes the events to each round,
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  Speaker 1: and they've showed their level of physicality, and now the
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  Speaker 1: question is can he do it on Thursday night again
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  Speaker 1: at home? Now, when they're going to try to attempt
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  Speaker 1: to knock out the Devin Nuggets in their world, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to say, we're not going to cooperate. Because last
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  Speaker 1: night's game showing the Nuggets and the t Wolves was
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  Speaker 1: really an amazing game. Because of the Chievs lose the game,
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  Speaker 1: they commit twenty five turnovers. So getting back about the Pistons,
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  Speaker 1: they had twenty five turnovers. You can't win on the road.
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  Speaker 1: And with that said though, there's always an X factor
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  Speaker 1: by players, and last night for the Devin Nuggets it
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  Speaker 1: was Spencer Jones shown undrafted guy in twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 1: out of Stanford. He gets twenty points in thirty seven minutes,
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  Speaker 1: but its house got them the offense, it's four for
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  Speaker 1: five and freeze, three steals and three blocks and even
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  Speaker 1: worse than that sewn to add to this, he was
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  Speaker 1: in a two way contract until this year until February nineteenth,
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  Speaker 1: so he got promoted from two way to a regular
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  Speaker 1: standard contract where he makes the rest of the season.
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  Speaker 1: This year, he makes up six hundred and twenty three
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars and ninety ninety sixty putting six twenty three
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  Speaker 1: ninety sixty seven this season. Let's put in contexts former
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  Speaker 1: Jazz man who lost in the first round the Phoenix Suns,
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  Speaker 1: Grayson Allen makes this year sixteen point eight million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm putting in context purposely so your listener is
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  Speaker 1: going to stand this. So Spencer Jones earned this contract.
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  Speaker 1: Shawn all in one seat, all in one game by
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  Speaker 1: helping the Nuggets to hang in there to try to
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  Speaker 1: get to a game in their World Game six.
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  Speaker 4: In Game seven, we saw Victor Wembinyama back in action.
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  Speaker 3: He looked awesome seven blocks.
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  Speaker 4: He was also critical of the concussion protocols in the NBA,
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  Speaker 4: and it's fascinating when I hear somebody like him kind
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  Speaker 4: of pushing back a little bit on league policy having
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  Speaker 4: something to say because he's emerging as the face of
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  Speaker 4: the league. He's one of the few guys that I
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  Speaker 4: think the NBA wants to make sure they stay in
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  Speaker 4: good graces with and they want to have a great
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  Speaker 4: relationship with. You know, a lot more about concussion protocols
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  Speaker 4: and the way that things can or cannot be manipulated.
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  Speaker 4: But when you've got a megastar player like that saying
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  Speaker 4: I could have played in the last game, I don't
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  Speaker 4: like the way that this stuff is being handled. Does
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  Speaker 4: it trigger some type of evaluation in the league office
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  Speaker 4: or how does it work?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: The league offers is step fat about that this is
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  Speaker 1: people's careers, and so the doctors know, so did the
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  Speaker 1: athletic trainers. So there's a protocol you have to pass
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  Speaker 1: each day as far as movement, running cognitive tests, it's
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  Speaker 1: all predetermined and that the doctors are there and they're
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  Speaker 1: ministering the test and then they report it back to
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. I'm glad they have the concussion. So you
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  Speaker 1: know in the NFL, are you kidding me? In the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: wherever you play, there's a collision. And we also went beyond.
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  Speaker 1: But when he fell, he hit face first on that
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  Speaker 1: ground and that so he again, he's a young fella.
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  Speaker 1: I get he wants to play, which is commendable. I
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  Speaker 1: want to help my team. I'm okay, Yeah, he's okay.
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  Speaker 1: As far as walking around maybe in an off day at
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  Speaker 1: the mall, but not playing an NBA game. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: going to play. He's going to play next game, and
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  Speaker 1: he's fine, and that's good. So it's for a reason
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  Speaker 1: they do that for because we know about brain brain injuries.
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  Speaker 1: They're want to be very very conscious of it. And
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, like all other professional teams, they are. I'm
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  Speaker 1: all for it.
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  Speaker 4: Spurs Blazer's tips off Tonight's san Antonio could close it out.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they will?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, they have a tremendous team, good coaching, tremendous camaraderie,
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  Speaker 1: they play as a unity. I think they're going to
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  Speaker 1: close it out. But also the Trailblazer's up and coming team,
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  Speaker 1: Danni Avdia is an absolute potential. I call him a
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  Speaker 1: right handed monogynobili the way he plays LESSI in playoff games.
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  Speaker 1: He drives that ball to the basket. He hustles, he
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  Speaker 1: makes shots, he blocks, he gets steals. He's a hapig player,
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  Speaker 1: just like you, Nobo he was, and he's right handed.
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  Speaker 1: So and Jazz basketball and they go forward, they've got
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  Speaker 1: to beat the Trailblazers. See lest year in Jazz basketball
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  Speaker 1: in their division, they finished one in fifteen. So again
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  Speaker 1: it's who you play against. So in the Jazz division,
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  Speaker 1: for the listeners to re remind them that a Demon, Nuggets, Minnesota, Temblewolves,
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  Speaker 1: Putland Trail Places and the Okase Thunder And so the
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  Speaker 1: Jazz are in a tough division, I mean both physically
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  Speaker 1: and with a lot of good players in their prime
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  Speaker 1: or younger guys they're entering their prime. So the Jats
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  Speaker 1: are going to play catch up. They think they can,
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  Speaker 1: and now the question is when it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: Gordy Chase is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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  Speaker 4: talking all things NBA for a couple more minutes. Here
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  Speaker 4: we were having this conversation about the Stanley Cup playoffs
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  Speaker 4: because you know, Utah had a chance to go up
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  Speaker 4: three to one last night.
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  Speaker 3: Instead it's two to two.
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  Speaker 4: Extends the series they'll be playing at least until Friday,
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  Speaker 4: maybe even beyond. And you know, in the NBA, you've
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  Speaker 4: got a team that's already closed out a series, you've
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  Speaker 4: got another one in the first round that's going to
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  Speaker 4: go seven games. Where do you stand on the advantages
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  Speaker 4: or disadvantages of finishing series early and then having to wait.
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  Speaker 1: Pessa is important so I'm all for it. Knock them out.
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  Speaker 1: So don't play around and say that let's not win
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  Speaker 1: on the road, let's only went at home. As far
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  Speaker 1: as the knockout game, no, get it done. And there's
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  Speaker 1: so much as a mental preparation for it. So if
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  Speaker 1: you can knocked somebody out, it's advantageous to rest your bodies.
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  Speaker 1: Remember if people say, well, what about the rust factor,
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  Speaker 1: meaning you haven't played like we'll say next round and
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  Speaker 1: say five or six seven days, there's so many games
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  Speaker 1: before that. The players know how to get themselves ready
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  Speaker 1: to play. Rest is absolutely paramount. And this member, now,
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  Speaker 1: you started practice in the dog days of September thirtieth
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  Speaker 1: or so, in the beginning showing of the NFL season.
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  Speaker 1: But in context now it's already NFL's over, Hockey is
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs right now, and baseball's already starting as
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  Speaker 1: far as the first month of the season. So it's
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  Speaker 1: better to win and rest.
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  Speaker 4: Already. H what's your most interested? What game draws the
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  Speaker 4: most interest tonight for you? I already asked you about
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs and maybe it's that one. But which one
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  Speaker 4: are you going to be most styled in?
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  Speaker 1: On next? A lander at New York and the Master Garden.
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  Speaker 1: It's too too Sean. They don't like them each other,
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  Speaker 1: which is good, perfect less game and game in Game
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  Speaker 1: of three, I'm sorry, Game four, pardon me, is the
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  Speaker 1: Knicks ran their offense through call Anthony Towns versus running
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  Speaker 1: it through Jellen Brunson. And so what happened during that
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  Speaker 1: game is that everybody got more involved, including Brunson, and
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  Speaker 1: so they hit a hit Anthony Towns at the elbow
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  Speaker 1: or the high post or just swinging the ball to him,
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  Speaker 1: and he had a triple double. But more importantly, there
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  Speaker 1: was more cutting, there was less dribbling. So I'm fascinated
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  Speaker 1: to see if the Knicks used that formula again where
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  Speaker 1: less pick and roll Rick Brunson, who's tremendous though, and
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  Speaker 1: more just Anthony Towns and his trusted teammates. As far
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  Speaker 1: as a ball fluidity, where the balls hoppen, the defense
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  Speaker 1: is fierce, so you have to cut. You just can't
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  Speaker 1: be stationary. It's much easier to guard somebody if they're
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  Speaker 1: flat footed versus somebody what set up cutting, back, cutting,
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  Speaker 1: elbow reactions, playing the game as far as a unit,
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  Speaker 1: and so I'm looking forward to see that from Atlanta's
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  Speaker 1: point of view, they're good. They play hard. Atlanta, they
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  Speaker 1: have tremendous defensive players. Can he take away and he
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  Speaker 1: take away Anthony Towns some of his easy catches until
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  Speaker 1: Longgate the moves? And also can the Hawks right now
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  Speaker 1: we discovered with their offense and it's gonna be interesting
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  Speaker 1: game in the Garden Game five, there's nothing like it
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  Speaker 1: and Massa where guarding the intensity is incredible. Again, both
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  Speaker 1: teams don't like each other, have to make it so special.
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  Speaker 3: What's your list today, Gordy?
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  Speaker 1: All right, today, Sean, is a very short list because
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  Speaker 1: it hardly ever happens. And I have one question to
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  Speaker 1: you about the NFL. At the end of the list,
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  Speaker 1: here we go the ultimate trifector of a single season,
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  Speaker 1: and NBA basketball is the ultimate trifector. That is winning
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  Speaker 1: the league MVP, winning the NBA Finals MVP, and the
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  Speaker 1: NBA Championship in the same season. So you win the
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  Speaker 1: league MVP, the Finals MVP, and your team wins the
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  Speaker 1: NBA Championship. It only happens very few times. Here we
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  Speaker 1: are last season, Shaye kills Alexander He won all three
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. In nineteen seventy. Willis s Reed
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  Speaker 1: did it in nineteen ninety four. A team Alashiwan did
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  Speaker 1: it in two thousand and three, Tim Duncan did it
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  Speaker 1: and two thousand. Shaquill O'Neal did it. In nineteen eighty seven,
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  Speaker 1: Magic Johnson did it. The all these guys did it
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  Speaker 1: one time. Lebron James had did it twice in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twelve and twenty thirteen. Larry Bird also did it twice
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four and nineteen eighty six, and the
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  Speaker 1: only player ever to do it more than twice is
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. He did it four times in nineteen ninety one,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, nineteen ninety six and in nineteen ninety eight.
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  Speaker 1: So it's an elite list of very few people that
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  Speaker 1: are ever to do it. And before I add to
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  Speaker 1: this list as far as that, Bill Russell Wilt Chamberlain
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  Speaker 1: might have been it many a time, but the MVP
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA Finals didn't wasn't established until nineteen sixty nine,
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  Speaker 1: so we never know how many times Bill Russell wil
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  Speaker 1: Chamberlain would have won the trifecta of the League MVP,
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  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and the League Championship. Now Victor win Byama,
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  Speaker 1: question Mark and Sha Joes Alexander. It's going to happen
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  Speaker 1: with those guys, probably will win multiple league MVPs, finals
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  Speaker 1: MVPs and perhaps league championships. So that's the list. Has
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  Speaker 1: so few people ever to do that. The NBA trifector, right, run,
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  Speaker 1: how many times did Tom Brady do the exact same
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  Speaker 1: thing of winning the league MVP and the Super Bowl MVP.
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  Speaker 3: And the Super Bowl MVP? Yes, so he won.
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  Speaker 4: How many times did Tom Brady win NFL MVP, super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl MVP and win the Super Bowl in the same year.
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  Speaker 1: And the same season? Correct?
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  Speaker 3: Zero?
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  Speaker 1: That is correct, That's exactly right. He never did in
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  Speaker 1: the same season. He won five Super Bowls MVP and
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  Speaker 1: he won three league MVPs, but in the same season.
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  Speaker 1: That's how hard it is. So Brady, the greatest football
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  Speaker 1: player of all time, had never did that. Ever, Well,
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  Speaker 1: there was it in basketball. It just shows you how
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  Speaker 1: hard it is to do.
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  Speaker 4: There was like a twenty year stretch, twenty plus year
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  Speaker 4: stretch in the NFL where winning NFL MVP was a
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  Speaker 4: curse that meant you weren't going to win the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very much. And by the way, because the other
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  Speaker 1: guys are good who you play against in the postseason,
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  Speaker 1: as it makes it so special. So Jordan did it
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  Speaker 1: four times, Bird twice, Lebron twice, Victor went beyond the
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  Speaker 1: zero question books, Let's Future Out, and Shay from the
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  Speaker 1: OKC thunder had did last show one time, Let's Future Out,
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  Speaker 1: and Jazz Basketball. They're going to try to play catch
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  Speaker 1: up and be in a list someday.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, I'm going to ask you this.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to get to it a little bit later
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  Speaker 4: in the show, but I want to ask you it
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  Speaker 4: now so I can add your opinion to the context here.
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  Speaker 4: So it's a college football question. Brendan Soresby, I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: you saw this. Cincinnati quarterback transferring to Texas Tech is
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: under investigation.
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  Speaker 3: He's checking into rehab.
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  Speaker 4: He's admitted to having a severe gambling addiction, and he's
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: been betting on college sports, including his own teams in
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: college sports. How should this be handled for a twenty
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: two year old kid who's been doing this since he
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: was at least twenty, probably before that, but thousands and
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: thousands of bets on college and pro sports for someone
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: that age, and he's got another year of eligibility to
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: play at Texas Tech, unless, of course, they choose to
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: not let him.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: How should it be handled well and get counseling.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And two he should forfeit his lecture of eligibility. You
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: can't have that because the integrity of the sport. I'm
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not being naive. You can bet, but you can't bet
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: on your own team, et cetera. You can't do that,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: whether it's pro or college.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: All right, remember everyone that Gordy said that.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: When we get to the conversation later on the show
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: about Brendan Soresby and the latest revelation in that NCAA investigation, Gordia,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I always appreciate your time, sir, thank you very much.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And it's Sean. You're my ultimate trifeca. You are.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: I have one, almost nothing, next to nothing and practically
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: nothing all in the same year.
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  Speaker 3: Many times.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting piece out Sean.
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  Speaker 3: That's Gordy Chiasa