Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #76: Gill1918 Project Presents Josiah Norville "Glazier Clinic: Simple Triple Jump Breakdowns"
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- 0:27All right. Hey, everybody.
- 0:29Yeah, I'm, my name is Josiah Norville.
- 0:32I'll first introduce myself and kind of give an update on who I
- 0:36am and kind of what I do before I kind of get into this this
- 0:40little stuff. Yeah, my name is Josiah
- 0:43Norville. I'm the associate head coach of
- 0:46track and field over at Western Michigan University.
- 0:49I have been coaching now for this is the start of my 14th
- 0:53year of being in the collegiate coaching world primarily and
- 1:00often been as the Sprint, hurdles and jumps coach at each
- 1:04institution I've worked at. Yeah, I'm pretty excited to be
- 1:10with Glacier, Glacier Clinics. And I'm pretty fired up about
- 1:16the fact that they even asked me and kind of feels like, kind of
- 1:19feels like it's a little strange to feel like you're, you're part
- 1:23of the people that people want to listen to.
- 1:25I don't know if I that's warranted yet, but let's hope
- 1:28that it feels that way when people are done listening to me.
- 1:31If anyone decides to. No, I'm, I'm pretty excited
- 1:37about about doing that. It'll be in December.
- 1:39I'll be speaking on Friday, December 12th and Saturday,
- 1:43December 13th. Yeah, I'll be speaking on a
- 1:48couple different topics. The one I want to bring up today
- 1:51is, is triple jump breakdown. Some of the simple mechanics,
- 1:57breakdowns and simple ideas just to kind of little little kind of
- 2:02help out all triple jumpers is kind of the way I look at it.
- 2:05And there's there's quite a bit of things that kind of go into
- 2:09the triple, but it's it's it can be fun.
- 2:13It can be really, really simplistic.
- 2:14I think a lot of people were respectfully athlete and
- 2:18coaching included or have a little bit of fear of the triple
- 2:20jump because it seems so complicated and weird.
- 2:23It's not really an event at the joke I make with with people
- 2:27that I work with and a lot of the athletes is triple jump is
- 2:30by far the most made-up event in track and field and I but I love
- 2:35it and I love working with it. Just a little bit of my
- 2:37background really quickly so we can get into that.
- 2:41I yeah, I've been coaching for about 14 years, been coaching
- 2:44the triple for similar amounts of time, a little less than
- 2:47that, probably about 10 now. And my background is my, my
- 2:54background in biology when I was my undergraduate degree, my
- 2:56master's in Physiology. So I studied a lot of that, have
- 3:01some background in bio mechanics and physics as well.
- 3:05And yeah, I, I just love it. Some of the mentors I've worked
- 3:10with different people are some of the people that everybody
- 3:13knows. I've been blessed enough to have
- 3:15lots of conversations with Boo. I don't even think he remembers
- 3:19me, but I, I love the guy. He's been real helpful to me and
- 3:22probably doesn't even realize it.
- 3:25Coach Ford, the head coach over at Baylor University.
- 3:27That's why I first started working on doing.
- 3:28I volunteered as a graduate student.
- 3:32Vince Anderson during his time when you're still texting him
- 3:35and even now when I get a chance to see him, there's there's
- 3:38quite a few guys that that that helped me out just learning
- 3:41different things as I grew. And I lean on a lot of my, my
- 3:45jump friends had Jason Martin over at University of Miami.
- 3:50He's a jump coach down there. Just just different people that
- 3:53will help me and help me help me grow and understand what I'm
- 3:56doing. But yeah, some of the breakdowns
- 3:59of the triple jump stuff that that I'm looking forward to
- 4:01talking about that I thought might be helpful for a lot of
- 4:03people. Just little things here and
- 4:05there. I mean, the approach is, is a
- 4:07big one, obviously, because that's the main aspect.
- 4:10I know that every jumps coach said that.
- 4:12I know we all think about it like you can't do anything in a
- 4:14jump if your approach sucks. We all know that, right?
- 4:18We know that even from the lowest of levels.
- 4:20But then how do we, how do we get into that?
- 4:22Like how do you actually make a decision about how to set the
- 4:24approach up? How do you make a decision about
- 4:26what steps to use? How many do we want to do an 8
- 4:29step? Do we want to do a seven step?
- 4:30Do you want to be? How do you know who can handle
- 4:33what? I know for me, a lot of the
- 4:36things I watch, I watch a lot of weight room IA, lot of I, I
- 4:38break down the approach in a variety of ways with a certain
- 4:41amount of pushes, transitions and then acceleration into the
- 4:45board. But I talk about that a lot in
- 4:47the triple because I think one of the big things in triple that
- 4:50not a lot of people kind of understand is that triples set
- 4:55up. And I will always say this
- 4:57forever and ever and ever, right?
- 4:58Balances your precursor to everything.
- 5:00I know that people hear that all the time.
- 5:02Balance your precursor to everything, but in so much as
- 5:04the triple that you have three different phases that that
- 5:07balance must be precise and impeccable in a lot of ways.
- 5:13And in order to do that effectively, the approach is how
- 5:17do you set that up the speed and the velocity which you come in,
- 5:20right? I teach my kids, I'm a pretty,
- 5:22I, I teach my kids 85 percent, 90% of Max velocity coming into
- 5:26the board. I don't know, not everyone is
- 5:29exactly that way, but I am very much 8590% coming into the
- 5:33board. You have to be able to have some
- 5:35velocity coming through it. I do not believe in 100%
- 5:38velocity at the board. I, I know some people may, but I
- 5:41do not. And the way I make decisions
- 5:44about how you make you decide on the precise number of steps
- 5:49coming into the board is I do a lot of watching, testing and
- 5:53evaluating my jumpers all run. Everyone knows that it works for
- 5:58me. I am a jump or I am running
- 6:00jumps coach. I believe in sprinting.
- 6:02I believe in racing in some of the sprints.
- 6:05I believe in teaching you how to move so that the approach can be
- 6:08more effective and that you can get up to speed more
- 6:13effectively. So I, I'll break down and, and
- 6:15the talk about the approach and how do you set that up?
- 6:18How does it, what are simple cues and simple ideas that you
- 6:22can use? So that's like, oh, I think this
- 6:24kid could probably be a seven step, or I think this kid's on 6
- 6:27to 8 till really, really weak or she's really, really weak.
- 6:29Or I think this kid can move to an 8 or I think this, this could
- 6:32be a walk in approach. This could be a standing push
- 6:36and approach. I, I, I have different ideas of
- 6:39things I do, but one of the main ones that I won't pretend I
- 6:41don't, I don't use is I teach kids how to run.
- 6:43We teach all of our jumpers how to run and how to move and not
- 6:46just be able to just jump. When you break down the first
- 6:51phase. I know the first phase is the
- 6:54most important part of the actual jump part itself.
- 6:57Every jumper that I've ever worked with, male, male and
- 7:00female, we all get into it. We know if you don't hit your
- 7:03first phase, right, Like I spend the majority of my time in the
- 7:07fall and if you don't hit first phase, I don't really care.
- 7:10Like respectfully, because that jump isn't, it's not going to be
- 7:14as effective. My groups know and everybody
- 7:17knows that I've worked with I've, I've coached a couple
- 7:22different top 10 ranked triple jump groups on the men and
- 7:24women's side at Fresno State and at the University of California,
- 7:28Santa Barbara. And with the triple jump with
- 7:32the groups, one of the things they all laugh about is how
- 7:34much, how angle I am about the first phase and how much drill
- 7:37drill work we do on the first phase.
- 7:38Our balance, our cadence, our, our timing, how I decide single
- 7:45arm versus double arm. My ladies aren't allowed to
- 7:47double arm. I don't do it.
- 7:50Obviously. Again, I'm going to get a little
- 7:51nerdy here. Obviously the center of gravity
- 7:54differences and center of mass differences and different motor
- 7:59skills in men and women. Obviously motor skills are
- 8:01developed much earlier in women. That's why they have better
- 8:03handwriting than men most of the time.
- 8:06Sorry, generalized, but that is most of the reason why most
- 8:09motor skills are developed earlier.
- 8:11So there's certain things in different aspects that I change
- 8:14in the triple jump for the men and the women, but the balance
- 8:17is so important that you have to be under your center of mass and
- 8:21take off the way you run off the board.
- 8:23We do different drills to teach running off the board.
- 8:25We do different drills to teach cycling effectively.
- 8:28We do different drills teach the movement of the hips because and
- 8:31everyone knows that it knows anything about bio mechanics or
- 8:34physics, right? Your hips are your indicator of
- 8:36whether or not you travel distances.
- 8:39It's where how far your hips go, not where your feet land.
- 8:41And which is really funny because people don't always get
- 8:44that. I get having different levers
- 8:47and different lengths are beneficial, but like if I've got
- 8:51a six foot girl versus, you know, A52 girl, right, her
- 8:54putting her legs out, it's going to go further.
- 8:55That's true. But the duration of how far they
- 8:58can physically jump is still predicated on rights on how far
- 9:00their hips go. And so we talked about hips
- 9:02movement and running off the first phase.
- 9:04I'll get really into that in my presentation.
- 9:07The second phase is the maintenance of the velocity of
- 9:09the hips setting up the angles, right?
- 9:12The timing of when you, you know, like my group hears me
- 9:15yell all the time. We always make jokes about like,
- 9:18wait for the ground, don't reach for the ground, right?
- 9:20If you miss time where the ground is within your timing,
- 9:23whether it's too early or too late, you throw out the balance
- 9:25of your hips, you just fall into the ground or you over rotate.
- 9:30Those things matter. And how do you decide which does
- 9:32what? And how do you decide when to do
- 9:35those things? And how can you tell what the
- 9:37mistake is that leads to that problem?
- 9:39Those things are good. Those are pretty big things that
- 9:41I care about. The third phase we get into the
- 9:46pulling of the ground is a big when I talk about with each each
- 9:49of the phases. A lot of times I think when the
- 9:52third phase in particular, I know a lot of people love to
- 9:56mention or forget to cute was probably the better way to
- 9:58phrase it. The you we don't I, I get really
- 10:01fresh on it. You're not bouncing off the
- 10:02ground, right? We don't bounce off the ground,
- 10:04right? Our hips are still moving.
- 10:06Our knee comes through the opposite knee will swing through
- 10:09in like a pendulum. I usually tell kids like, Oh
- 10:11yeah, it's like a 4045° angle and and that's somewhat
- 10:14accurate, somewhat disingenuous, but it's it's a queue.
- 10:18But the biggest thing is I always I'm like, you're, you're
- 10:21jumping, you're still pulling, right.
- 10:22This is not long jump in the same way that you can kind of
- 10:26kind of run and bounce and sometimes you can get away with
- 10:28it. You can't really get away with
- 10:29that in the triple. You have to actually pull the
- 10:30ground on the third phase and you have to actually drive the
- 10:32need through. We talked about that quite a
- 10:34bit. Again, drills that we do to work
- 10:36on those timings of, of phases, like we do different drills to,
- 10:41to teach the 2 three phase and things like that.
- 10:45And then I, I do have drills for everything like and I and I use
- 10:50drills and I want to be clear as I get into this and wrap this
- 10:52part up some kind of get long winded already.
- 10:56I use drills to teach skills that are exactly correlated to
- 11:00the jump itself. I don't use drills for drill
- 11:02sake. I if I see a problem with the
- 11:06skill, the drill is the drill is then to teach it.
- 11:09And then we immediately move the runway to teach that thing.
- 11:11Or I, I use drills to warm up their legs so they get in the
- 11:15process of triple jumping before we triple jump without the
- 11:17stress and pressure of the jump on the human body.
- 11:21Meaning if I just do like one of the drills I use, which I'll
- 11:23talk about in the in the meditation is a continuous first
- 11:27phase. The continuous first phase is
- 11:30astronomical in what I use and it's so simple.
- 11:33It's so stupid. But when you talk about kids,
- 11:37men, women, high school doesn't matter.
- 11:39That drill is a great warm up drill teaching my kids do it at
- 11:42all times. For every jumps practice and
- 11:44meet day. We will always do it.
- 11:46It's literally one of my one of my young girls.
- 11:49She's been with me for four years.
- 11:50She says she's like, it's the biggest girl I need to do to get
- 11:53ready for the job. And I'm like, I know.
- 11:55And so we talked about that. I will get into all that in the
- 11:58presentation and all the things that they go into that and I'm
- 12:02pretty excited about it. I know I'm kind of ranting, but
- 12:04yeah. But anyway, that's kind of
- 12:08everything. Again, Friday, December 12th,
- 12:12I'm at I think 8 or 8:45 PM, can't remember which, but yeah,
- 12:17don't forget it. It is free.
- 12:19So sign up, try to come in and talk and listen.
- 12:23I am excited to be able to give an opportunity to kind of share
- 12:28what I do and kind of how I do things.
- 12:30I love the triple jump. It's one of the fun things for
- 12:33me. I know not everyone gets super
- 12:34excited. It's not the flashiest event
- 12:36that people go see, but it's a pretty cool one for me.
- 12:41And yeah, it's, it's, I'm excited for it and I hope you
- 12:45guys can join. And I hope, I hope that
- 12:47something actually comes out of it.
- 12:48If you feel you learned something instead of wasting
- 12:49your time and all of me. But yeah, I'm a pretty talk too.
- 12:53And I really like what I do. So look forward to seeing you
- 12:56guys and hope the people are interested in hearing what I
- 12:58have to say. Hey gang, Mike Cunningham here.
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