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Best of the Bus: Maxx Crosby On His Longterm NFL Goals + What Other Coaches Say About Him · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: What's up boys on this best of the Bus episode,
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  Speaker 1: a series where we drop a best of every Saturday
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  Speaker 1: and recap some of our favorite episodes, throwing it all
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  Speaker 1: the way back to when Max Crosby came on the bus.
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  Speaker 1: The boys were in Vegas before the twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 1: season with the one and only Max Crosby, Mad Max
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  Speaker 1: just elite specimen specimen of a pass rusher in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Max opened up about his goals and how he's leveling
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  Speaker 1: up for next season and what it was like playing
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  Speaker 1: with Ab and DeVante Adams. He also gets real on
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  Speaker 1: the Derek Carr situation. He will drop a monologue that'll
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  Speaker 1: make you run three brick wall and get your piss hot.
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  Speaker 1: Big hugs, tiny kisses. Enjoy this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bust with
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  Speaker 2: the Boys. Obviously, we are not on the bus right now.
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  Speaker 2: We are in a pristine locationknown unknown in Las Vegas, Nevada,
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  Speaker 2: at the home of the legendary Max Cross. And if
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  Speaker 2: you're at home right now, go ahead and give him
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  Speaker 2: a round of applause.
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  Speaker 3: We'll do it too.
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  Speaker 4: Appreciate you, guys, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: This is an outstanding place. I appreciate it. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 2: did you move into this residence?
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  Speaker 4: We moved into May.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I lived about three minutes away before and me and
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  Speaker 4: Rachel were looking at houses for a long time and
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  Speaker 4: it was a very stressful Brooklyn, very stressful situation. You know,
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  Speaker 4: We're going back and forth arguing I'm done. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I was at the point where I'm like, I'm done
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  Speaker 4: looking at houses, like until I get my contract, Like
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  Speaker 4: I'm done. And then all of a sudden, my boys
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  Speaker 4: come in town. We're going to the UFC event that weekend,
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  Speaker 4: and Rachel's like, there's this one house we got to see,
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  Speaker 4: you know whatever. I'm like, I'm done. I'm seriously, I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: I'm done looking at houses. She pulls me in the car.
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  Speaker 4: We're going. We drive around the corner and that was it.
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  Speaker 4: We literally put an offer on this house that that
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  Speaker 4: same day. So really and this is this house.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a weird tra was that I said.
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  Speaker 3: He knew that bag was coming, he knew the bag.
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  Speaker 2: But when the bag is not secured yet, you do
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  Speaker 2: start playing the game of like, man, I wonder where
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  Speaker 2: I could get and you start you get on the
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  Speaker 2: Zillow app and you're looking.
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  Speaker 4: At the things.
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  Speaker 2: All right, this is what I can get right now.
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  Speaker 2: But if I get this contract, I could go and
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  Speaker 2: get that that it's a crazy game you play in
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  Speaker 2: your head.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's the best.
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  Speaker 2: Was that like a stressful time for you? Like before
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  Speaker 2: contract stuff was.
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  Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't say stressful, Like it was honestly like
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  Speaker 4: a good stress Like you know, the situation like it's hard,
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  Speaker 4: you don't know, like you want to get to your number,
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  Speaker 4: like you're really hell bent, okay on this boom, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not going below this. But then in the situation, like
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  Speaker 4: when it really came down to it, I you know,
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  Speaker 4: you're never going to get exactly what you want. But
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I got enough
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  Speaker 4: where I don't have to you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about money anymore. So like
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  Speaker 4: that's the ultimate goal. But it's you know, for me,
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  Speaker 4: it's not really about the money. Like my I've always
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  Speaker 4: heard from coaches everything, like they're like the second contracts
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  Speaker 4: what the NFL is all about. And for me, like
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  Speaker 4: I've always thought about, I always try to do above
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  Speaker 4: and beyond, Like my goal is to get a third contract,
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  Speaker 4: like I want to be the highest paid in a
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  Speaker 4: few years. Like that's that's my ultimate goal. So like
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  Speaker 4: this contract was a big deal for me, Like I'm set,
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  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, like I want
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  Speaker 4: to reset the market. So like that's like my goal
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  Speaker 4: for sure, one of my goals. How long are you
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  Speaker 4: want to play? Twelve to probably twelve to thirteen just depending.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't know, but like I don't, like we
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  Speaker 4: just talked about, I don't ever want to step on
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  Speaker 4: the field and feel like like not like myself. Like
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  Speaker 4: that's what I'll know, Like if I get to that point,
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  Speaker 4: gonna be done.
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  Speaker 2: Because there are players that, like young when they're younger
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  Speaker 2: in their career, they play super hard. Like we were
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  Speaker 2: in the car driving here, and like the adjective I
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  Speaker 2: think we use for you is like, did you play relentless?
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  Speaker 2: You play hard? And when sometimes when dudes play that hard,
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  Speaker 2: dead puts some wear on the tires. And then dudes
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  Speaker 2: get older and they have to change up their game
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, and you're not you don't want to
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice that.
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  Speaker 4: No, No, you know, honestly, I've I've always kind of
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  Speaker 4: had that mindset, like ever since I, you know, started
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  Speaker 4: playing football, Like I truly believe there's only one way
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  Speaker 4: to play. And yeah, if I if I'm playing and
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  Speaker 4: being cautious about jumping in piles and things like that,
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  Speaker 4: like I probably shouldn't be playing. And yeah, like I
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  Speaker 4: just want to look back in my career and be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he put a great body of work. I don't want
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  Speaker 4: the last thing they remember it is like my old
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  Speaker 4: ass trying to bend the edge and falling over and
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that's the last thing I want, you know,
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  Speaker 4: for me, I really want to go out on my terms,
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  Speaker 4: because there's most guys don't. And that's kind of the
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  Speaker 4: hard thing about this business, Like I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not in control. I don't know you know, what's going
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  Speaker 4: to happen in the future, but like I know the
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  Speaker 4: preparation I put into it. I do everything I can
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  Speaker 4: to try to be at my best and be able
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  Speaker 4: to play that way. So you know, that's kind of
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  Speaker 4: my my long term goals. But I'm just literally just
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  Speaker 4: trying to stay in the present. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like how do you know? You know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean?
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  Speaker 5: Like if you're if you end on if you end
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  Speaker 5: on a high note, right the competitive nature in everybody
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  Speaker 5: is you continue to go. It's like I don't feel
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  Speaker 5: like you would actually find out if you've lost a
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  Speaker 5: step unless you had a year where it's like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 5: maybe maybe I don't have it like I did the
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  Speaker 5: year before, year prior. So it's almost like how do
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  Speaker 5: you know? Because you're almost you're also addicted to all
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  Speaker 5: the success as well. Yeah you know what I mean, Like,
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  Speaker 5: how do you feel like you would know?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like like that's a great question.
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  Speaker 3: His oldest being around the edge.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like that wouldn't happen unless it's like week fifteen,
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  Speaker 5: if maybe your last season and you're like, fuck, maybe
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  Speaker 5: I am slowing down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah no, that's that's true. You never, like I feel
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  Speaker 4: like you're never gonna know, like exactly. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: like like JJ, like I feel like it's a mental
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  Speaker 4: thing too, like you know when you're done. Like there's
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  Speaker 4: guys like I feel like there's certain like even I
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  Speaker 4: know Sean McVay, Like I don't know all the story,
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  Speaker 4: but like I know how he works and people talk
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  Speaker 4: about his work ethic like he's like when he's in it,
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  Speaker 4: like seas twenty four to seven, he doesn't stop, and
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  Speaker 4: like people are saying he might take a break, and
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  Speaker 4: there's rumors of that just because of how he is.
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  Speaker 4: So like if I ever get to that point where
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  Speaker 4: I'm like sick of it and like I'm really not
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  Speaker 4: enjoying it, and I'm you know, I'm at that point
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  Speaker 4: where it's like I'm you know, I've already I've given
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  Speaker 4: everything I got to it, Like it's time to just
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  Speaker 4: you know, call it a career. Like I know that.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'll know when that day comes. Like
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  Speaker 4: even jj Watt, like you've seen he's bawling like he
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  Speaker 4: had just had twelve and a half sackses here and
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  Speaker 4: he's just like I'm done, but he knows he kind
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  Speaker 4: of hit that limit. He played what twelve years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Brady.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well it's different though, Like he's he's not taking
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  Speaker 4: big yets running and putting his shoulders and shit, so
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  Speaker 4: like that's different. Like I feel like, especially playing up front,
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  Speaker 4: you know Taylor, like it's a lot, and it's every
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  Speaker 4: single day in practice, like a quarterback's not taking any
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  Speaker 4: damage during the week. They're not doing it during the
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  Speaker 4: offseason like we do it all the time all year round.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, like my goal, like there's there's main goals
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  Speaker 4: I want to hit, Like I want to be the
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  Speaker 4: Raiders all time sack leader, Like that's something that's like
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  Speaker 4: big on my checklist. Like there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: that I want to hit before I'm done. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna stay in the present. That's
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  Speaker 4: all i can do. But when that day comes, I
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  Speaker 4: feel like I'll know what is the all time sack
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  Speaker 4: leading I think it's one oh seven and a half
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  Speaker 4: Greg Townsend.
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  Speaker 5: So you're at one hundred sacks year ten eight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: let's say okay, yeah, yeah, let's say you're at a
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  Speaker 5: hundred sacks year eight, but you're losing a step, but
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  Speaker 5: you need seven sacks to get that all time sack.
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  Speaker 5: Do you come back the next year to get to
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  Speaker 5: check your boxes where you feel like you're close?
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I like this is different.
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  Speaker 4: Like if I'm in year eight and I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I'm losing a step, then maybe I'm not doing something right,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like maybe that's.
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  Speaker 5: Weelie, you're so fucking relentless all the time, Like maybe you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, nah, that's I'm still young bro, Like I'm twenty
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  Speaker 4: five and I'm going into my fifth year, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean, Like if I'm not if like just
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  Speaker 4: looking at it from like there's you look at the
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  Speaker 4: Kobe's the gods like that, like they work relentlessly. They
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  Speaker 4: were able to play twenty years. I know it's a
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  Speaker 4: different sport, but like even the NFL guys, like I know,
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  Speaker 4: injuries are injuries happen, like that's a part of it.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like if you do all
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  Speaker 4: the right things, you carry your body, do sleep well,
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  Speaker 4: recover well, do all the shit right, you practice right,
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  Speaker 4: keep keep ahead of things, like you'll be fine. And
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  Speaker 4: and that's how like I played almost eleven hundred snaps
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  Speaker 4: this year, Like I played a ton of snaps, but
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  Speaker 4: like I feel good, like I could go. I could
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  Speaker 4: start training tomorrow if I really wanted to. But I
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  Speaker 4: have to force myself to slow down. So like I'm
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  Speaker 4: not fucking stupid. I don't think like I'm above other people,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't, you know what I mean, That's not
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  Speaker 4: how I look at it, but like I just I
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  Speaker 4: feel like if I just keep doing the right things,
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  Speaker 4: but I'll be able to kind of control my destiny, And.
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  Speaker 5: I was more trying to give it a hypothetical of you're
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  Speaker 5: slowing down, but you're also right there on the cusp
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  Speaker 5: of a couple of those check checks.
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  Speaker 4: Get I'm going to yeah, I'm going to get I'm
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  Speaker 4: will play one year and if I go and out
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  Speaker 4: four sacks, then yeah it's time. But like I'm a yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a definitely, you're right.
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  Speaker 5: I guess it would be like you know, it wouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be like year twelve or thirteen, where.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty seven and a half, Okay, that's pretty all right.
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  Speaker 3: What are other goals on that?
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  Speaker 4: What are other goals on that list? There's that oh
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  Speaker 4: my bad, uh put it to your mouth. There's a
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  Speaker 4: few like that, Like I want to be in the
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  Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. That's something I want to be in.
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  Speaker 4: I want to be the Raiders all time sack leader.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's there's a lot of things. I can't
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  Speaker 4: say everything, but like there's like the main goals like
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  Speaker 4: I want to be definitely do that, but I want
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  Speaker 4: to I want to have a career where like when
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  Speaker 4: people look back, like the biggest thing for me, like
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  Speaker 4: the numbers and shit is cool, Like the jacket all
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  Speaker 4: that shit's cool, but like my main focus is like
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  Speaker 4: trying to impact the way the game is played. Like
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  Speaker 4: I feel like in the NFL now there's a there's
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  Speaker 4: only a few guys that you really look at and
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  Speaker 4: are like, damn, he's just fucking he's different. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what it is, like just the way he plays,
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  Speaker 4: Like I watch like Chris Jones and like Michael Parsons
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  Speaker 4: and those guys, like there's just something different when they're
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  Speaker 4: out on the field, Like it's like a presence, and
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  Speaker 4: like that's what I want to lead back. Like when
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  Speaker 4: people look back and talk about me, they're not going
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  Speaker 4: to talk about the stats at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: They don't talk about Lawrence Taylor's sacks. They talk about
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  Speaker 4: when that dude is on the field, he's a fucking
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  Speaker 4: animal like and that's that's that's the way I look
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  Speaker 4: at it, Like inspiring kids, inspiring kids, Like I want
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  Speaker 4: to be that guy that kids want to be like
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  Speaker 4: like I want That's that's what matters most to me.
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  Speaker 4: So if it's six years and I feel like I'm
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  Speaker 4: losing a step, like then it is what it is
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  Speaker 4: like and I and I'll know I'm done. But like
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the impact I leave on the game, like I want
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  Speaker 4: to be I want to bring that back, like the
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  Speaker 4: old school way of playing football, flying to the ball,
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  Speaker 4: not giving a ship, like throwing my body Like that's
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  Speaker 4: that's what I feel like is missing nowadays.
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  Speaker 2: For sure from an inspiration standpoint, when you were playing
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  Speaker 2: at Eastern Michigan of all places in Ipsilany, which is wild,
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  Speaker 2: like how.
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  Speaker 3: You were there? Why shot at the boys? And that
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  Speaker 3: just way better than the.
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  Speaker 6: Bast Man until this year, until this like when you're
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  Speaker 6: when you're playing, like obviously the first person that comes
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  Speaker 6: to mind somebody you've already like two or three times
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  Speaker 6: as JJ Watt, was that like your guy at Eastern?
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  Speaker 4: No, not at Eastern. I liked. I was a big
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  Speaker 4: JJ fan, like when I first started playing DM, like
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  Speaker 4: my first year playing DM was I was a senior
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  Speaker 4: in high school, so I was new to the position.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, who's the best at what I do? So
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  Speaker 4: like JJ at that time was like Superman. So I
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  Speaker 4: definitely I like watching JJ. But there's a ton of
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  Speaker 4: guys like I love Jared Allen growing up. There's a
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  Speaker 4: ton and it's not just defensive ends like I played
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  Speaker 4: growing up. I was a middle linebacker the whole time
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  Speaker 4: until my senior year. So like, you know, I could
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  Speaker 4: go on and on about different players, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: watch everybody, and I just I want to be like unique,
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  Speaker 4: like somebody not just another guy, another hard working, like
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  Speaker 4: I going to be somebody to look back. It's like damn,
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  Speaker 4: like in that time, like this dude was just different
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  Speaker 4: than most dudes.
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  Speaker 2: Because JJ was one of those dudes who like fought
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  Speaker 2: through the fringe. Like when I first got to Tennessee,
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  Speaker 2: it was like that was when JJ was was JJ.
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  Speaker 2: It was terrifying. And then you know, he went through
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  Speaker 2: like a three four years where he like played six games,
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  Speaker 2: played nine games, like didn't really play a whole lot,
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  Speaker 2: and he could have easily been where we've been. What
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking about was like is he losing a step? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and he goes back to the Cardinals and like you say,
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  Speaker 2: he had twelve sacks this year, but LOOKI was balling
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  Speaker 2: this year.
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  Speaker 5: It's a competitive I feel like it's like that competitive fire.
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  Speaker 2: Like also the fight of being like this can't be
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  Speaker 2: the end for me, Like I need to make this
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  Speaker 2: comeback real but you're.
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  Speaker 5: In it though, like you're in your own Like some
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  Speaker 5: people could objectively say, like maybe you are losing a step,
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  Speaker 5: but I guess only you know. But then that's obsession
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  Speaker 5: of being so uber competitive. Maybe you don't necessarily know it,
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  Speaker 5: but you keep going back right for sure.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the thing too, Guys like the game you
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  Speaker 4: evolve like over time, like especially like even if some
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  Speaker 4: guys are a little bit older, that's the thing too.
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  Speaker 4: Like my game is from my rookie year to now,
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  Speaker 4: it's like pull it, you know what I mean, I've
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  Speaker 4: gone it's not even like the same person I watch
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  Speaker 4: my film, So even I feel like it's when you
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  Speaker 4: get older, too, Like you see a guy like this
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  Speaker 4: I always refer to the NBA, but like you see
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  Speaker 4: James Harden, like he used to be dropping forty a
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  Speaker 4: game every night and now he's like a pass first,
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  Speaker 4: he's leading the league and assist because he's lost the step,
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  Speaker 4: but he's also like the best passer in the league
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  Speaker 4: now and he's just evolved as a player. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that's the thing. Like I have this
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  Speaker 4: vision of what I want by handing to look like
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  Speaker 4: and how it's gonna be, but like I truly don't know,
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  Speaker 4: Like I really don't know. I just I just try
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  Speaker 4: to stay stay in the day, bro, and if I
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  Speaker 4: can maximize every day and do what I do, like
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  Speaker 4: it's just gonna work out the way it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not that's not under my control.
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  Speaker 2: Going now, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna switch a subject. But if you're staying
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  Speaker 3: on there, No, I was just I was.
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  Speaker 2: Playing till like everyone everyone really has this, Like everyone's
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  Speaker 2: writing their own little story in their head and they're
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  Speaker 2: like they're narrating their own story. Like if I do this,
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  Speaker 2: like it's gonna look like this, and like you're literally
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  Speaker 2: watching yourself daydream of how it's all going to end.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Everyone plays it out, and you're right, like a lot
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: of dudes can't go out in their own terms. Like
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of people like uh, Like for me, two
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: acls in three years, It's like I was on top
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: of the world before that, and I thought, oh man,
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: I'm getting this jacket. Like we're gonna keep going and
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: things just switch up on you. You have to learn
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: to pivot and be happy with what you done. Yeah,
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: what's it?
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: Uh, what's it like being Brian Baldinger is one of
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: his favorite players. I feel like my man is always
• 14:07
  Speaker 5: shouting you out because of what you talk about the
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: impact on the game. I feel like he does a
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: great job of spotlighting that and showing that the commodore,
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: whether or not you're getting this statu a sack, the
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: way you affect the game. What's it like like having
• 14:21
  Speaker 5: a legend like that talk about you multiple times throughout
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: the year.
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome. You know, ever since my rookie year,
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: for some reason, like my first game that I really
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: got to play in was an Indianapolis game. I think
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: it was week four of my rookie year, and he
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: put a video out and he made up the condor
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: nickname and all this stuff, and I was like throwing off.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: I'm like, damn likely juicy. He narrates that stuff like
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: he's fire. The comment, the whole thing is classic. So
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: it's like when he's first started doing that, like I
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: reached out back to him and I was like, man,
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: I was like, I appreciate it means the world. And
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: then you know, I just as my career's gone, he's
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: always doing videos and now like we'll talk like before
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: you know, after a game, I'll be like, go go
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: watch what I did on this third down, and he'll
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: check it out and be like and we'll just have
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: conversations back and forth. He loves he loves football, bro.
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: And that's that's the type of people I like to
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: like to associate myself with. So, you know, like Marinelli
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: and those guys, Like I talked to Marionelli to this
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: day every day, Like I was just saw him in Texas.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: I was just on the phone with them like two
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: hours ago. Like he's one of those guys that like
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: I need in my life to keep Like everybody has
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: those people, especially like in your sport, that you like
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: just have a different level of respect for and like
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Baldy and like Marinelli, those guys like I constantly even
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: when I'm not training, like right now, I have a
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks to kind of get off my feet,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: like just I need it, Like it's my part of
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: like my addiction, Like I love playing football. So having
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: those guys just talkball and just feed me knowledge is
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: really cool.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: How do you get the commodore nickname the condor Condors comedy?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: What is a commando that?
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: Down? Dude's similar?
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, similar schools.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: How did you get that nickname?
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: It was just from Baldinger. I think it was that. Yeah,
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: I guess the wingspan you.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Do have like a solid cave man like knuckles touch
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and knees. That's a big that's a big compent. You
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: want them them things are flying to when.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've heard a lot of different weird you
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: watch your film. You see them in the right guard
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: when you're playing. See that's the funny thing. Bro, Like
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: and this is weird. And y'all can believe me or not.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: But when I went to the combine, I'm like, you know,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: everyone's always told me that, like, bro, you got long arm,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: like your long athlete. I went to the combine, I
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: was like almost the bottom. When it came to wingspan,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: they were like, I swear to god, they had articles,
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: uh the Eastern Michigan Because like, I did good at
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: the combines with people start talking about me more. But
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, I don't know his wingspan short and
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And I'm like, what was your It
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: was like it was like six ten wingspan. I don't
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: know my arm length. It was like I tell you
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: six five.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's a dub.
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: If your wingspan is longer than your boy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Know, that's what you got them, stubby wings wrestler.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: In his podcast to relax, you got to pull his shoulders.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to hit that ball the other day in
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the shop and all I can't. I can't get it started.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta kind of bounce the ball.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You do, got them little stuff, but they make your
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: arms are bigger though that way, like long arms, the
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: arms don't look as big.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know. It's weird, broball small torsos, right,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: there's got to be something wrong. I think I got
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: a small torso. I think I got wide shoulders that
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: make my arms seem longer. I don't know.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: You got no fucking.
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: Yo.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: That's hilarious.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, Eastern Michigan.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: How did you end up there? It's funny you brought
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: this up. So yesterday my D line coach from Eastern
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: called me and he, uh, you know, we're just chopping
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: it up, talking talking ball and whatever, and somehow he
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: brings it up. He's like, yeah, you know, you know,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: it's hilarious. You know, we we've been interviewing a new
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: d line guy because he's going to move to linebackers
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: there at Eastern and Out they're getting a new D
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: line coach, and he was like, Coach Creighton, my head coach.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: He started this thing. In his interview process. He puts
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: up five high school players film and shows the D
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: line coaches and has him ranked the D lineman. He puts, like, whatever,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: one of the guys that are trying to recruit. He
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: puts my film in there from my high school, like
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: when I was in high school, and he puts, like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, four other random guys. He said, So my
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: D line coach, my old D line coach told me
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: yesterday he said, every single coach ranks me at like
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: fourth or fifth from my high school day. And I'm
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: dying laughing and they don't know. And then they're like, yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: you know that's Max Crosby, right, and they're like they
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: all get awkward, awkward, But.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: You just guys sit there at that meeting, go I'm
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: not getting this job.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: It's over. But that's that's kind of like bro I
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: was a late bloomer, Like I was a I was
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a linebacker all the way up to my senior year.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Then we got these new coaches, and I had a
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: big roastpur but like my body, I wasn't caught up,
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: like Bro, my knees were hurt and I was slow
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: twitch as fucked. Like if you watched my high school
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: film and be like, yeah, I'm not surprised he went
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to Eastern, like I was surprised I got a D
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: one offer. They were the only d one to offer me. Bro,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: They're my only offer in general. So like I got
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: that offer, I jumped on it, committed and boom and
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: then yeah, are you a basketball guy? Yeah? I played basketball?
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah I could.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I could buckets playing the paint.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I was. I was like a you know, like a
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: stretch for kind of guy. I could shoot, I could
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: shoot the ball. I sort of God, I would I
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: rather shoot than be on the block. Like, I'm not
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: a back to the basket gay. I'm catching the ball
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: at the top. You can't get to the lane hammer
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: paint guy, Absolutely not, you can't. I can rebound, but like,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not back to the basket old school George, Mike
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: and come on.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Can you dribble?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide. But I have the serbian my
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: mom Serbian is it's translated to the court.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Can you do the dribble between your legs?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Can you dunk? I could go right there? Women talking
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: about the other hoop? We have a court back then?
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Is it even regulation?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: That's probably a feet Yeah, it's got to be a feet.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Can you do the thing where you bounce the ball
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and you pick your shirt up and the ball goes
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: in and you slap it and it goes around.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And one mixed day. Yeah, I don't think I can
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You think you're the best basketball player on the Raiders.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think guys would tell you that too. I'm
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide myself up. But we've all played again.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I see you over there getting a little You keep
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: like twitching a little bit like I can get.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make you a little triggered that we're kind of
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: questioning your back.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts, but it's it's normal for you know,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: being a white guy. They will always question you at first,
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: but then you go on the court and you fucking everywhere.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you are, you are tatted? Is uh? What's it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: like playing defense being white?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Is that tough?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I remember when Taylor calls you, Oh, he's just another
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: normal white guy out.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: There on the field.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Actually, Will told me that story. I forgot that even happened,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: explaining that what happened that day, because I don't remember
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: when I was saying that to you. Remember, No, I
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: really don't. You told me my whole focus in that
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: game was you. When we were playing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: You literally told me we were pulling up, You're like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: was Max a guy where I said, uh, there's just
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: another white guy?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: No, but yeah, because you've told me that story. But
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I remember in the moment saying that. I remember him
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: saying that to you.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Finally got you guys here together. Max Will let me
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: down on like how much money I think I know.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I tell you, I'll give you two hundred dollars per
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: sack you got on.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: Taylor or something like that. Yeah, a little bit work.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I got the Titans back this year, though, So I
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: was proud and I love veryble know about it.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Did you really?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I was talking on the whole game. You're just sitting
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: there on the sideline of his hands on his knees
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: after y'all try to run that weird reverse boot ship
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and I just yeah, it was like on a third
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: down and I just jetted smoked Tannehill and I looked
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: to the silent Rabel just looking. He was right there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, stop running that ship at me, stop
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: running that ship. And he's like okay, shaking his head
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: and ship okay. But I fuck with verbel Bro. He's
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: one of those coaches. This is random, off topic, but
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: he like he texted me all the time. He's cool
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: as ship. He was my coach of the Pro Bowl
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: last years.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta respect that third contract.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: You just gotta build relationships.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Bring you to Nashville with the boys.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Fantastic and Blue.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Never know, You never know. Yeah, I'm happy where I'm not.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: You're doing the boys in that show.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you if they didn't want me here anymore? Yeah?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Of course, but I think, uh, I think it's gonna
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: work out.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Just dude, Rab. You don't know Rabel like we know
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: veryble because he'll go in meetings on Wednesdays and Thursdays
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and pull it tape and just dummy guys, like just
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: verbally assault them. And I remember playing I think it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was that your rookie hear we played in Oakland. That's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: when we played each other. He would put you on
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the film and he there wasn't really a bad thing
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: because you play hard. Yeah, and there wasn't a bad thing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: He's like this loud mouth motherfucker, Like just like CIRCLEO was,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: like this guy he can't fucking touch the quarterback. Fuck
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this guy like going off about you the whole time.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And that's got to be a great feeling because I've
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: had the same thing with like Bill O'Brien and Bill
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: O'Brien be like a seventy seven. He is a fake
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: tough guy and that that hurt every time.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: Remember I remember going through in the defensive meeting that
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: week the same kind of stuff.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Similarity, he's gonna try to get the whole time. Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: it's funny, but that's like I have. You know how
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: the NFL is. You have friends on all the different teams.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of guys, Like that's the funniest
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: ship when you sit there and talk after the season
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, in our meeting, you know, we
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: circled you and just kind of hearing what other teams
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: have to say about you, Like that's interesting. You know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: everybody has their own kind of perspective on who you
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: are as a guy. There's some teams that think I'm
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: the biggest piece of shit on the planet.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Like really of course, like he's so loud.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I'm loud, and he he makes a play, He's like
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: what motherfucker. Yeah, I can't help myself. I love it
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: like I'm loud. But that's like there's there's certain teams
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that you could tell like they're trying to fuck me up,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: like the Niners team, Like the Niners coach and all them,
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: they like buttered me up all week. They're like, man,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: besides Bosa, he's you know, he's probably the best guy.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Once we got to the game, they tried to send
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the fucking house at me. Bro. They were doing Bro
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: just different, weird, like the Niners blocking, like the schemes
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and shit they do. I've never experienced anything like it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Like Bro, they were tackle tight end both going down
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: and the guard would fucking like they were coming at angles.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: You didn't even know where the fuck they were coming from. Bro.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: It was just different. But like that's the thing, Like
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: that's the coolest thing about the league is like being
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: in a position, you know how it is like you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: on an island the whole game. You don't even have
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: to worry about it. So like that's your responsibilities. For me,
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it's the opposite. I know, Oh they're going to be
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: sending shit at me, and it's like it's a different
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: type of challenge every week. And all the offensive coordinators
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: they all got a different way of approaching and it's
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: it's cool because after the games they'll talk about, Yeah,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: we're trying to fuck you up and we're trying to
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: do this, and I'm like, oh, you got me on this,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: but fucked you up on that play. Yeah, it's cool, man,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: That's that's what.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: That's what leag Kyle Shanahan's so good watching their first
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: playoff game and the blocking teams are wild, wild, Like
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: there was what was the play? Oh, they like the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: tight end like went out on the end and then
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: like flashed the end as if he wasn't like he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: gonna block them, then went away and then Trent was there.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: That was when McCaffrey had like that long like fifty
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: five yard runs. But the blocking scheme was just so
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: unique and it's simple because you look as if from
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: offens line like, oh, they're just running this play with
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: like these two little different things. But they do such
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: a good job of opening up holes. Yes, they got
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: studs all around.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, that helps as well. When
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: you got fucking between Deebo and McCaffrey like those in
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: open field, there's probably there's you can't name anybody really
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: better than them, like you got tyreeks and shit like that.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But like McCaffrey and Deebo, like an open field, they're
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: fucking electric.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Bro dangerous.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Playing against Trent Williams.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: He's a stud. Bro, he's a stud. It was fun though,
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: had we had some good battles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Did you get one on him?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of I didn't get a
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: sack on him, but I had a nice little QB
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: hit on a little inside move. It felt good. No,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: we were talking. He's cool as ship. He's talking like
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just having conversation. But I usually I'm a line up
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: on the left, so like I'm going to get the
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: right tackle most of the time. So once I went over,
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: like we knew, like Trent's going to be on an island.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: So during the game we kind of schemed it up
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: where Okay, Max, you're gonna play a little bit more
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: on Trent because you'll have more one on one opportunities
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: because they're gonna probably chip with the right tackle and stuff.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: So I got to rush against him a couple of times.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: But I've heard, well, I had some good rushes, he
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: had some good He's just a big motherfucker and he's athletics,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: so it was a it was a good matchup. Bro.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: We we got the best of each other a few times.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: That's cool.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: You were telling that story on the plane about him
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and Shawn Jackson.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: They were just his athletic ability. Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Like there's one offseason where we were in OTAs and
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: they were basically trying to narrow down who had like
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: the fastest start. So like every group, I mean very subjective,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: but ten yards, it's kind of hard to figure out
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: who wins everyone, but every position could go and then
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: they would put everybody together. But the final two were
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: DeShawn Jackson and Trent Williams because he could just.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Get out like, he's extremely athletic.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: They were talk about him playing They would talking about
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: playing legs. They said he would when they would play basketball.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: The why that he played like beyond the arc, he'd win,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: They'll dunk.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Like do all this stuff. He's just like a super athlete.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: Bro.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: He's a freak. Bro.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: He really is a freak. What about McGlinchey for the Niners.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big deal. He's a big guy.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: He's he's a little more stiff, but I feel like
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: he's an underrated cat, like he doesn't get enough respect.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know. I thought he was solid. You know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: It's that's a weird thing, like especially now, like I'm
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: like this year, especially like I played on the left
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: side majority of the time, and like early on with
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: me and Chandler are both going like the chips would
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: go back and forth, so I would have some more
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: one on ones and shit, but Chan got hurt against Pittsburgh,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: and like the last few games, it was like if
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I wasn't moving around, like I'm getting there sliding and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: they're chipping. So it was hard. It was really fucking
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: difficult to kind of get those true one on ones,
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and especially when you're not up in games like you
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: don't you know, there's it's a lot less you know,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: it's a lot more predictable what they're doing. So no,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I got Yeah, Mike mcglinch, he's he's a big motherfucker.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: He was he was solid. We definitely, yeah, we had
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: we had a good little a little back and forth.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: It was it was fun, bro. That's the thing with
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: the Niners. There's certain teams bro that like they just
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: make it really difficult for your D line and shit
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: to get off. And that's that's always the biggest challenge.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Like the New England's like, you know, when you're playing
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: New Wing when they're gonna literally do everything they can
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: to try to stop this guy in this guy And
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: like Tennessee's like that too. I know Vrabels come from
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the Patriot the Patriot away too, so like I sit
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: there and hear McDaniels, he's like, okay, Bosa right here.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Every single time we're gonna slid, we're gonna boom, we're
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: gonna And I already know going into the week, like
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I'm playing Bill Belichick, he's gonna try to fuck me
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: up every play. In Tennessee, I know Vrabel's not gonna
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: let me just go and try to wreck the game.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: And that's I feel like that's as years have gone on,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: like that's been a you know, like in my game,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: like having to evolve, you have to truly like you
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: have to truly be on it every single play because
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: they're bringing more than one more than more than less.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: It's got to be a hell of a compliment though. Yeah, yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: they're slide to me and chipping me. It's yeah, it's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: gotta feel good.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: No, it's awesome, But at the same time, it's very frustrating.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's like I feel like the biggest part,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Like in the past, Like last year, like I was
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: getting in my head because I wasn't getting like I
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: was getting a shipload of pressures, but I wasn't getting home.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: Like there was like a stretch right, like had six
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: games in a row where I didn't have a sack.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I was rushing my best, but I wasn't getting home
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: for some reason. And like that's the thing as a rusher,
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: that's so difficult. Like there's no play called for you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: You have to go earn every single stat every play,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: every sack, every TfL. So like that's the challenge. And
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: like people from the outside world if you're not getting
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: sacks as a rusher, like they think you're you're like
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: not balling, you know what I mean. Like Chandler was
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: balling and people were on his head because his sack
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: numbers were low, and like you feel like Chandler was
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: the same guy last year that I was calling, like, bro,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: like I don't know why I can't get a fucking sack,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: and he's helping me out. So like having Chan here
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: this year, like I was getting a lot of sacks
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: and Chan was, you know, going through it a little bit,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: and like being able to be there for him is
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: like it's like crazy, bro, it goes full circle because
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: like Chan is a dude. I looked up two forever.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: He's one hundred plus sacks and he's in year eleven
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: and he's like going through it, and it's like it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: tough because it just shows like as a rusher, like
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: this shit is really difficult and you have to appreciate
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: every single stat and everything you get because like you
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: could rush great for the whole game, but they could
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: just be getting rid of the ball. They could be
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's just that's the tough
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: part about it. But that's also like the beauty in
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: it when there's a reason why sacks are like a
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: big thing, because it's not everything's got to go right.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: They got to hold the ball, the cover's got to
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: be on point, everything's got to be you know, on
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: point for you to get home. So Chandler, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I forgot, Yeah, I forgot.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Forget.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Chan is a fucking dog, but I love as a
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: human being. The dude is one of the coolest dudes. Man.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: When I was playing him in twenty twenty one, he
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: had like four sacks that day, I gave up two
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: of them, and there was like the end of the game.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: At that point in the game, I was at such
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: a low point. I was like, I just need to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here in regroup somehow. And
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he like rushed me and he went to pull away,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and I had his chain and I tore it off,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and he's like, oh man, now I'm really mad. Now
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I'm really coming. I'm like, hey, I like walking back
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: to the huddle, like you have four sacks, You're all right,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Like just relax, just relax for the That was the
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: lowest football moment. But look he even before I got hurt,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I never played him well. He always played really well
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: against me. Like my second year I played him, he
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: was at the Patriots and like the first third down, dude,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: he takes me back to the quarterback strip sack fumble
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: return for a touchdown. That's how the game started. First series.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Well do you think he's always done so well? Like
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: what do you feel like makes him like.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: He's I don't I think like if I were to play,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: if I were to play him again, would I would
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: vary up my sets more. He's so long and he
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: does a good job, like it looks like he's always
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: on a step cadence like one two bowl one two three,
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: like turn those shoulders. And he's really long too, so
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: short corners are not good against him, Like if you
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: get him too like nine and a half, he's got
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: that capability to reach with the far arms and get
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that quarter of that ball out. So it's like he's
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: got enough speed to where like I gotta respect this,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: but also he can turn in power also and then
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: dudes that and I can't remember if you play like
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: this or not, but like he doesn't necessarily like play
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: like sound run defense, like so you like when you're
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: trying to shoot off the ball like we do a tennessee,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: he goes inside like he can jump around, like if
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: he has that kind of freedom, like that's an easy
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: way to like second guess yourself. And he he's, uh,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: he's always been he's always played me well. I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: of all the players, like he's been a guy that's
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: always kind of have my number. Yeah, even before getting hurt.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: He's stud.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always got. There's always those guys in the league.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Every year you're like, okay, I know this about it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: This one day he's about to be Yeah, like I
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: gotta be on my ship and that's yeah. Chandler's just bro.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: He's just unique. Like how he explained, he's got. He's
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: not fast, but he's got. He's not fast, and he'll
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: tell you that he knows he's not, but he's just
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: he's so long and he's so like he's just a
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: different athlete's like his brother, Like they're so long, but
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: they're not fast and they probably they can't jump high,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: but they're like freak athletes. I don't even know how
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: to explain it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: There, but like the game film is way different than
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: what you see, like combine numbers would be exactly.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: He just he's just a unique, unique player. Bro. He
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: was born to play football, dud, dudes, stud you met
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: his brother, no, I haven't. No, I heard he's gonna
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: fight again, right, he's got.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: He's got to brothers. Arthur Smith, he played in the
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: League too.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole family, whole family and the Yeah it's Arthur,
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: that's the coach of the Falcons. But uh, I who
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: last name is John? Arthur Jones?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Arthur Jones. I don't know why you said Smith. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: because he was my teammate, Arthur Smith and the brothers, right, Like.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: That's not even the same now, I don't think that's
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: the same.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Is he is he an athlete as well?
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: He was he was he won a Super Bowl in
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Baltimore and oh I didn't know that. Yeah, he's the
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: oldest though.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the oldest as long as a career. But
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: like that whole family is just a breeding.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Brothers in the NFL. That's that's ridiculous. Yeah, no, he's
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: a stud man. And you're right, he's like an anomaly.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: Like you look at him. He's got like.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: The size like you like you look like he must
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: have a or torso as well.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: How long his arms are long toist?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: But like he legit like does like incredibly wacky, very unorthodox,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: extremely unorthodox Russia, but he just he does well.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: You mentioned earlier about the Patriot Way. What was it
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels. What's it been like playing
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: for coach McDaniels. Transitioning from coach Pisacia last year. Obviously
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: you guys are super close. Pisatchia is a legend things.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: But then you coach McDaniels comes in. What's it been
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Honestly, my experience has been great. You know. I feel
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: like every time you get a new coach in there's
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: new expectations, and I feel like it definitely takes time
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: to adjust, you know, as a whole. Like if you're
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: halfway in, halfway out, you're not going to last. And
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: in the way he coaches, like he has a very
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: specific way that he wants things to be done. He's
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: all about work ethic, all about doing the extra mile.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Like that's how he approaches it. And I like, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: we talked about off camera, like me and him, we've
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: had a great relationship. Was here the dude. That's how
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: I think when it comes to training and stuff, I'm
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: always doing extra So it's nothing new to me when
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: it comes to that. But like I said, if you're
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: a guy that's you know, the normal NFL guy, you're
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: not they're not training all off season. You know what
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just that they're doing it there. It's
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: like it's hardest. It's not like a normal NFL team,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Like it's just it's a different time.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: About the way the way he runs the operation.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just the operation. Like we're really working, bro, Like
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: even during the season, like we're we're in pads like
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: late in the season, and yeah, there's some tough days,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: but like that's just that's what it is, like, you
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. You can bitch and complain about it,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: or you can show up and fucking improve and get better.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: And especially in our situation, like, Bro, we're six and eleven,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: but like we lost. We were in every single game
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: basically besides New Orleans, Like we lost every game by
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: like less than a touchdown. So we're right there, and
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: that's the probably the hardest part about it is, like, fuck,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: we're right there. But we have great building blocks on
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: this team. You know, we have Davante, we have Josh Jacas,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: we have a ton of guys. It's just we're not
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: there yet. But I feel like we're definitely like on
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: our way, like it if things go our way, you
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. This year, like we could have
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: easily been a double dy. We could have won ten
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: games easily, but that's not the reality. Should then you know,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: last year we won every single close game, and that's
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: the toughest thing about it. It's like you can either
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: either overthink it and you know, dwell on it and
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: bitch about it. But we went six and eleven. That's
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: our record. It's fucking It's not acceptable. But I feel
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: like Josh is a as a coach. He's done a
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: really good job.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: For sure, go ahead, No, he just seems like a yeah,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: because this is like this is not meant to be
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: a shot. This is just like an observation like the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Raiders like really underperformed for base on, Like you guys
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: have an incredible amount of talent on that team. Yeah,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and so how do you obviously, without overthinking it, what
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: are the little things here and there that you guys
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: lose by losing by seven you can now win by three?
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Like what are those little changes?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I think you know, I've talked about this already, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's like for me, it's the standard, like holding guys
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: to there has to be a standard set. They can't
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: just be you show up, the practice, you do the plays.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: We're not going over. We're not sitting here and you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: you should watch the film and everybody should be greaded.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: You know, are we really running to the ball? Like
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: little shit like that I feel And that's just how
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: I have an old school mindset when it comes at
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: like just the little details of running to the ball
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: loafs like the ship we talk about, Like that's that's
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: what I think is the difference, you know, at the
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: end of the day, like if the standard is not
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: set in the off season and OTAs and shit like
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: that is never You're never going to go on the
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: field and everybody's gonna be on the same page. It's
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: just not reality. And that's where I feel like, you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: last year or the year before, like when you were there,
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: like that's we got to that point at the end
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: of the year, like everybody was playing for each other
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: and that's a new thing, like and it's not like
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: it's McDaniel's fault or anything. Like everything's new. So it
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: does take time, and that's you know something as a
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: leader like that's what I feel like I need to,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: you know, take another step, you know, as a leader
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: and being a captain, like that's something I'm really focused
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: on is building, you know, bringing up the other guys,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: the guys that really want to be you know, really
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: want to be great and be a difference maker, not
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: just another guy on the roster to fill out a spot.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Like that's that's what we need, you know. I feel like,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: like you said, we have the talent in big spots,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: but like we do have a lot of things we
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: got to improve on. Like, you know, our d line
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't good enough. Our our defense in general wasn't good
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: enough as a whole, Like it wasn't We did not
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: play the what I you know, believe the standard should be.
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: You know, we played. We rushed a lot better the
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: year before, we covered better. You know, there's there's little
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: things that we got to improve on. So you know
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: that's and it's a it's a group effort. You know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: it's got to take everybody, and you know, I feel
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: like we're definitely going in that direction. The second half
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of the season, we played a lot better on defense.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: But that's just a tough part about it. You can
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: go back and forth, and you know, we lost close games,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: but like either way, we lost, like and that's at
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: the end of the day. Six and eleven, six and
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: eleven is fucking terrible. So yeah, you know, I believe
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: in them. I believe that. You know, we're gonna keep
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: building out the roster and a lot of key spots
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: and you know, just keep going in the right direction.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: But the main thing for me is a standard. Bro Like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: we have to have a standard and there can't be
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: guys that are halfway in a halfway out, because you
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: know how it is. You have fucking nine guys on
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: the same page and two or halfway out the door
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: is never gonna work.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you feel like do you feel like that's
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: what it was?
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: The standard wasn't held the entire year because a lot
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: of the talks and the headlines and the conversations was,
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: you know, last year we ended up winning like the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: last five games, and then you go in you think
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: you're gonna build off.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: You have a new regime coming.
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: Of course it does take time, but then put in
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: the year that you guys did put together. You keep
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: alluding to the standard and everything else and half in,
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: half out. Do you feel like it was upholding that standard?
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: If you when you do look at.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I feel and like you said, like we
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: talked about, it's not easy. You know, the way, the
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: way of you know, how coach McDaniels does it is
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: not easy. We're working hard, Like, Bro, we're in training camp.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: It's fucking one hundred degrees out on the field, Like
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: we're not practicing at seven in the morning, Like we're
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: practicing like ten like that. Shit, it's hot, bro, Like
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: people are dying and then we're running gassers at the end,
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: like it's not a joke. That heat, bro, real heat.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: And so that's my point, Like as a player, like
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: I pride myself on my routine about doing it every
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: day no matter if I'm in a bad mood, if
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling like shit, like showing up and trying to
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: improve regardless of how I feel. And I feel like we
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: didn't have enough of that this year, just we didn't
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: sustain it for a whole season. Like you can do
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: it in camp, you can do it in OTAs for
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the first couple of months, but it's like we need
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: a bunch of guys who were down or are willing
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: to sacrifice the whole year and beyond beyond point. And
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: you know that's you know, that's just a part of
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: it where you know, I feel like we're going to
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: bring in more guys that are like minded. And you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: I just I'm trusting it. You know, I'm just not
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: my control. I'm just you know, I just want to
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: be a leader, you know, That's that's my mangal lead
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the guys, bring up younger guys and showing the way.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: So when you're saying, like, I have a standard for
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: myself that I said every day whether I feel like
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: shit or I feel good, like when you feel like
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: shit and you don't want to do it, because I
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people are gonna hear that
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: and be like I do. Everyone goes through the same thing.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Everyone's got motivation week one, and now all of a sudden,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it's week ten. You're like, oh man, I really don't
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: want to get up and go do it again. Like
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: what are the things that you tell yourself when you're
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: working through that process? Like you wake up in the morning,
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: you're sore, it's Wednesday, you know you're going into pads.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You know it's week twelve, Like, how do you make
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: sure not only you sit that ctander for yourself, but
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: as a leader, like you're saying said that for everybody else.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the main thing for me is just
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: it's that foundation. Like if you don't have a solid
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: foundation going into the season, like if there's little cracks
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: in it, that shit, the whole house is going to
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: come down by you know, halfway through the year. And
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: that's like my main thing. I'm a very like I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: have an addictive personality, you know what I mean, I've
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: an addict at the end of the day, So like
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I use it to my as a superpower nowadays. Like
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: there's certain shit, like every single day I'm doing the
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: same thing like normantaic stretch every every night before I
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: go to bed, like cold tub hots up every single day.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, there's certain things I have to do,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: my meal prep everything, so like even when I'm feeling
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: like shit, I have to like every morning, I know
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: I have to do it. Like it's an agreement I
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: have with myself once a season ends, Like and that's
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: something I'm doing right now, trying to figure out, Okay,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: what can I do better? How am I going to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: be better next year? What am I Like There's certain
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: things that I write down, like I'm not breaking this,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Like there's no there's no conversation with myself in my head,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: no matter how fucking bad I feel. So I feel
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: like it's just, you know, the main thing is just
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: being mentally you know, obviously you got to be mentally strong,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: but you have to just make agreements with yourself, like
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not fucking breaking this and we'll see what happens.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: If it goes great, if I play great whatever, like
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: that's amazing that comes with it. But like if I
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: don't play up to the level I expect, like I know,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I did everything trying to do that, so I'm not
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: gonna feel like a piece of shit, like I.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Write, statistically the members might not be there, but knowing.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if I put everything I have on bro, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: can't feel bad about it. So but obviously that's not
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: the case. Yeah, like and just trusting it. So like
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: that's what I always try to tell the young guys.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: It's like like my thing this pass off season, like
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: what can I do better as far as going into training,
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Like the weird little difference I made, like I was
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: going in at eight am and going to train. My
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: agreement with myself this pass off season was I'm going
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: to be in the building by six no later every morning,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: six am Monday through Friday, and that's fucked. That's not
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: easy in the.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Office, especially Fridays when you get to go in later.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Fuck yeah yeah.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: And this is I'm talking February March when there's no
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: I don't have to be there technically, like this is
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: all off season, and I did that. So once the
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: season got there, like that was like a boom. I
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: checked that off. I did that. Like that's for me,
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: That's where I get my confidence from. It's a little
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: shit that like nobody, nobody's telling me I got to
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: do this. It's little shit that like it's challenging as
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: fucking the off season when I could sit here and
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: sleep and get relaxed till eight am, you know what
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I mean. But I'm getting up at five point fifteen
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and I'm going and going and working out when there's
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: nobody in that bitch. That's kind of what I you know,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: that's just one thing. But that's how I pride myself.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Is just like set in the standard boom. This is
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: what I'm doing, regardless of the situation, no matter how
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I feel. I'm getting the fuck out of bed and
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: I'm doing this, And that's that's where where all my
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: confidence comes from. And that's how I try to push
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: the guys around me, because I'm not like a big
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: hoorah guy. I'm not gonna stand there this movie fucking
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: gotta do blah blah blah. Like I'll speak when I
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: have to, but like as a leader, like I feel
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: like at the end of the day, the true leaders,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: like they show they show that shit every single day
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: and that comes to practice the weight room. Like that's
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: how I try to carry myself and pride myself on
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: because if you go and ask any guy in the
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: locker room, or ask Dave and as Dave when you
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: get there, you get ask fucking coach McDaniels. Like they
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: can say whatever. You know, I might be a dick
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: sometimes I might whatever, but yeah, red breadbeard everything, you
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, super white. But at the end
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: of the day, they can never say I don't work
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: harder than anybody in that building. That's what I myself on.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: That's no negotiables.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Is like massive, a massive thing that people need to have.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: It's huge. Bro. It my whole life changed. It changes it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Two years ago when I got that surgery, bro I
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: started doing that. It's changed my whole life.
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: It definitely it definitely shows and that's like me being there.
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: You are literally there doing your ship every day. When
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: you talk about the standard, not that you have to
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: get out of character and get out of personality with it,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: but do you feel like approaching this next year, maybe
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: you do speak up a little bit more to kind
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: of uphold that standard because you are a guy who's
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: earned your stripes in the league now, like everybody knows
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: the stuff, and you're talking about your routine every day now, right,
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: so people know about that and understand that you know
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: how you come correct every day.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you need to speak.
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: Up a little more to feel more of that leadership
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: role to uphold that standard that you were alluding to earlier.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I look, I evaluate everything from
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: my leadership to my play, to my just my attitude,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: my presence, like everything. I really sit down and break
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: down what can I do better here? And I feel
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: like that's with anything, you know, I could there's always
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: room for improvement as a leader. But I feel like,
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: you know, my third year when you were there, we
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: beat the Chargers the last game, like that was my
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: first year of being a captain, and I've never been
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: a captain my whole life. Like, so that was my
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: first time really being voted a captain. So it was
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: like I was learning a lot, you know what I mean,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and that being in that leadership role. But it was
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: it was different. It was a lot easier when I
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: had a bunch of guys who thought like me, like
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Quentin Jefferson, Solomon Thomas, Yannick. Like they're all like all
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: of them are fucking yeah like that. Yeah, they're like
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: they're all kind of crazy in their own way, but
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: like that's how I am. So like I really didn't
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: have to push, you know what I mean. We're all
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: like they've seen how I work. There. There wasn't negotiables
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: there with me. After the work, you know what I mean,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: after practice running with me, I had a full squad. Yeah,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: like I wasn't having a pull, motherfuckers. That's what I
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: feel like. This year it was different. You know, it's
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: a lot different because I whole new team basically, Yeah,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of younger guys, a lot of guys coming
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: from other teams, practice squads, and boom they're playing on
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Sunday with me. So that's that was the challenge this
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: year is like this dude, doesn't fucking even I don't
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: know this guy at all. I just met him two
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: days ago, and now I got to try to lead him,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like that was the biggest
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: challenge this year is there was a lot of change,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of different guys in and out, a ton
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: of injuries, so like it was a big challenge and
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: I feel like overall it's like the hardest year mentally
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: for me because I feel like I was playing my
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: best ball and I really had a lot of shit
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: that was going on. We were struggling, We're losing a
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: lot of close games. Like there was a lot of
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: moments where I could have just fucking lost, you know,
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: lost my marbles and act out, you know, just fucking
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: lash out. But like I really had to sit there
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: and just internalize a lot of shit and just be
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: grateful for just being in this situation because I could
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: look at it and bitch about it, Oh I don't
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: have you know, I don't have a bunch of pro
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: bowlers playing with me. I don't have this. He has this,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: and point to other teams, Well, this guy's got that,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I could do that,
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: but it's just it does nothing, and it's that's what
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: a fucking do. And for me, it's like, bro, I
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: trust what I'm doing. I know I'm working like like
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: no other, and I trust in the end it's all
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: going to work out the way it's supposed to if
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I just continue doing the right shit. And like I
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: look at guys like Aaron Donald, Like, Bro, he was
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: in with the Rams. They sucked for years and he
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: was the best player in the league, but nobody was
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: really talking about him, like how they talk about him now.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: But over the time he's stuck to the process. He
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: continued to dominate and then by years, what is a
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: year ten? Last year he's in the super Bowl. Biggest moment,
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: everyone fucking sees Aaron Donald. There's no question he's the best,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: and he goes on the biggest play and fucking wins
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Like that's the shit I think about,
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: Like when I get those moments, yeah, like it's touchdown, bro,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: and he wins and gets home ballgame, Like that's the
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: type of shit I think about. Like I can lose
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: my shit right now and be like, well, the fucking
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Michael Parson is rushing with DeMarcus Lawrence and fucking you
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: know he's got other whatever, but that's not you know,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: that's not what it is. My story is different than everybody.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: So I just trust that bro and I continue to
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: just grind, bro work NonStop, and I trust it's all
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: going to work out the way I supposed.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: So when you first get to the NFL, like, there's
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of distractions and guys like you you have
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: no money. Then all of a sudden, you have a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of money, regardless of where you're drafted, Like it's
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: more money than you've ever had, and that is difficult
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: anywhere you go. But it's I can't imagine what it's
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: like being a rookie or a younger guy and coming
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: to Las Vegas to play for the Raiders, Like, how
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: is that? How are you going to work through that process?
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Because that stadium, you can see it, you can see
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: the strip, and it is a cool place to be.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: It is fun. And if you're a young cat with
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: note with all this money, like, how do you keep
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: guys straight during the season when you're not winning all
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: the games you should be winning.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: That's that's a tough question. You know, everybody's different, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: that's that's the biggest difference. When you get to the NFL,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: it's not like college. You know, everybody in college, It's like, yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: it's a more structure. Everybody's on an even playing ground,
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: nobody's richer than this guy. It's like, this is what
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: it is, you know what I mean? And now you
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: get to the NFL, and if this is any city,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: you play for New York Giants. Here in New York City,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: it's there's always gonna be that. Like I was, Bro,
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: I was in Ipsilony, Michigan, and I still found ways
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: to get fucking lit and have fun and do all
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that shit. So like being in Vegas, obviously it's amplified,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: but I feel like just having a solid foundation, bro,
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: having good people around you, being around the right people,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: because there can be there's there's a million people that
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: are gonna pull at you, and hey, I got this
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: for you, Bro, Hey coming to this club, I got
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: you hooked up. And then all of a sudden, two
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: months later, like you owe me twenty thousand dollars from
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: that one day, right, what you know what I mean? Fuck? Yeah,
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: So like Bro, I just for me, it's just I
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: don't even Bro, I don't even go to the club.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: I'm chilling all the time. I go to cigar lines.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: That's the only thing I do. So for you, I stay. Yeah,
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: I have a different but yeah, for young guys, bro,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: it's hard. Like if I was here as a rookie, Bro,
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what the fuck I was.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like you've been you've been really
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: vocal about your whole process when you first came in
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: the league. Imagine if you were in Vegas.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I broud be crazy. And that's that's the thing, Like
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: I say, like these rookies, I can't sit here and
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: be like stay in your house and do it like
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, bro, gods are
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: gonna go out, especially if you're gouds you're gonna especially
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: if you're singer, You're gonna be out doing whatever you're
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: gonna do. It's just about being being smart, bro, Be cautious,
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: don't go out by yourself, don't go out with people
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: you don't know, like you really got to roll with
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: the people you trust, and stay out the bullshit because
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: there's a bunch of bullshit going on, especially at that
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: Or you go out to a nightclub, you don't know
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: what the fuck's gonna happen, you know what I mean.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Somebody they see you, they know you're an NFL player,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: You're immediately a target no matter what it is, like
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: they want whatever you got, so and people are willing
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: to lose whatever they have to fucking get what you have.
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: People will rob you and broad daylight, they don't care.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: And that's just the thing, you know, for the young guys,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: just knowing who you're around and trust and don't just
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: be out and about like it's normal, you know what
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, You're not. I think that's the thing I
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: really like. I still have to slap myself because I'll
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: drive and pull up to a gas station by myself
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: and the fucking big chain of I won't even think
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: about it, you know what I mean. And that's that's
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: now like as I gotten older, like I truly have
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: to like slap myself in the face, like I'm not.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: I can't just roll around and do whatever like normal
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: sometimes because people are crazy. Bro. You see it all
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: the time, guys NFL players go to LA and get
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: fucking their whole shit robbed and taken and they're just
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: going out there to go hang out with family. It's
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: like it's dangerous bro, especially nowadays, but you see more
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: and more of it all the time.
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Can you talk about when the switch with Derek Carr
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: was made, how how it impacted you and how you
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: felt like it probably impacted the team in that moment,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: if at all, because obviously there was a lot of
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: noise outside of the building.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of noise. A lot of noise. It's
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: definitely outside the building. It was tough, Bro. I remember
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: that morning because.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: DC's been the defranchise guy since you've you've came to
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: the Raiders.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a all four years. Is my quarterback
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: is nine years as a starter, which is crazy. It
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So, yeah, I'm sitting there, You're hearing rumors like, Okay,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: is Derek going to get bench this week? You know
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: what is going on? Blah blah blah, and you're just
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: kind of hearing rumors room. But you know how it is,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: you don't believe all the shit. You're just like, okay,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: we'll see and then all of a sudden, like we
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: went in that morning and me and DC are always
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: the first two guys in there, and we sit there
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: and eat breakfast. It's like squad is at eight. Like,
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: we're in there at six o'clock and we sit there
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: and we eat breakfast together. We talk, We go in
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: the hot tub, I go take a dump, and then
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: he goes and does whatever he does, you know what
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: I mean. So I go in there and DC wasn't
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: there at the breakfast table, and so I asked Angie,
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: who's there? She runs the kitchen. She's the best. Shout
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: out to Angie's camera. I love you, Angie. She's the best.
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: She always sists with us and watches it and just
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: chops it up with us. And I was like, Angie,
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: where's DC. Have you seen him? She's like, no, he
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: hasn't been in yet, and that's in my hat. I'm like, fuck,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Something went down. So yeah,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: like an hour later, I'm in my locker. I just
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: got out the hot tub and DC walks in and
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: he's looking at me, and I just knew, like I already,
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I just knew immediately, and he just whatever. He gave
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: me a man hug. He's like, bro, I don't want
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: to make it look like I'm, you know, quitting on
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: y'all or anything, but like me and Josh talk like
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna go home
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: and for these next two weeks and you know, figure
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: out my situation. But it was like, you know, obviously
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: they had their business behind the scenes and they've had
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: you know, had an agreement, so like it wasn't like
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: he was just like fuck it, I'm not showing up.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: It was just like, you know, business. So yeah, it
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: was tough. Like DC's my boy, Bro, Like me and
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: DC have been always, you know, as friends. Like, Bro,
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: he's a great dude. I love DC and he's gonna,
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: you know, somebody's gonna have him as their starter next
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: year and hopefully I get to play against him and
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: be dope. But I wish him the best. Bro. It's
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: just it's hard, like in this league, there's really you know,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: you can play for a team for ten years, give
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: everything you got, like, but unless you're like Michael Jordan
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: or you're Tom Brady. Like even Tom Brady, it's the
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: same thing. Like, Bro, he was in year twenty one
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: six Super Bowl and there he ended with a bad
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: relationship and they got rid of you know what I mean,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: and there was kind of friction. Like it's crazy, Bro.
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day. So it's a business
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: and that's the thing. You got to realize. It's not personal.
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: It's not like people don't like DC. Everyone you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: everyone's cool with DC. We love them. But it is
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: what it is. You know, Josh and Dave, they got
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: their visual what they want and you know, that's just
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: part of this business, man, And I trust them. You know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: I'm on this team and they're my coaches that at
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I gotta believe in what
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: they got, you know what I mean, and what they're
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: bringing and what they're doing. But at the same time,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: it's hard when it's your boy and there's a motion
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: to it, so it's like, damn, what the fuck and
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: then you like you want to get mad, but it's like,
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: at the same time, you have to understand both sides
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: of it. And that's kind of what I've learned, you know,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: being in the league more, it's like you can't you
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: can't take shit personally because it's not personal. Bro, It's
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: a billion dollar bussiness and it is what it is.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Dude, I've been around Derek just like a handful of times,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: he's like the nicest he seems like the nicest guy yeah, focused,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: kind like charismatic. Good dude, So he's gone, this is
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: the off season. Hypothetically, who do you want to be
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders?
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Who do I want?
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Like, if it was just your world they called you
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: say who you want? You got who you want? You
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: get to play GM, You get to play GM. Now
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: this will be taking out of context, people like, oh, maximants,
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: this guy wants that guy. I'm just saying, perfect world boss. Yeah, fun, hypothetical, fun, hypotheticathetic,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: We're just we're having a little giggle time.
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: That is a nice little time. Tom Brady and two dogs,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: three dogs down. One over there. She's sucking. Yeah, she's
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: snucking behind the tom Brady.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: I would love to have tom Brady. How I don't
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: know how that can be controversy. Tom Brady as a leader,
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: as a fucking player, as the goat. Fuck yeah, I
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: would love to play with Dom Brady if he can do.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: If you come to Vegas, Bro, I'll fucking fly. I'll
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: go to wherever he's at to introduce myself. The level
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: of respect I got for him, Bro is out this world.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I would love to have tom Brady. But
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: we'll see. I don't I don't know what's gonna happen.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: But I've only met him when I played him two
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: years ago. It was the COVID year and he was
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: on the field. We played in Vegas, empty ass stadium.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: We come in for pregame, and I always, like early
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: on in my career, i'd always like kind of walk
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: around the field and it was like a part of
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: my routine in like my full like pregame outfit, like
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: just my my fit. And I'm walking by myself, going
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: around and then fucking Brady walks out of the locker
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: room by himself, and I'm like, oh my god, Like
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: I felt it. I felt the aura and uh, I
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: seen him. We didn't say anything to each other at
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: the time. Whatever. I was just walking do my thing.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: He's walking, he's just kind of looking around, looking at
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: the stadium, which is in hindsight, it's kind of crazy,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just plotting out. But yeah, but anyway,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: so I talked to him after the game. He's you know,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: obviously he's a great dude. He was super cool. But yeah, bro,
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: I would love obviously I would love that Tom Brady.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: He's a goat the Yeah.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Very few people you ever meet in your life had
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: that kind of aura.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone I've met who has met Tom was like, dude,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: it's like a glow behind him.
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: It's different. Bro.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah he's like too handsome.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he's had something done.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a classic amount. Like there, he doesn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: look like he's like, you know my mangos botox, like
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: it's it's you know them teeth a real No. But
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I think he's done a classic amount of work.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: High classic.
• 59:51
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's going down with
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: the cheeks?
• 59:57
  Speaker 8: Baby, I'm not gonna do some shit I can't say,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: but yeah, dude, he does because you look at pictures
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 8: of him, and I hope on this YouTube right now
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: are flashing a picture of Tom from his year because my.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: God, he had that rounded out face, no cheekbones, no
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: cheek that's different. Yeah, bro, he different now, Jesus bro,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: he's like forty seven.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: He's like forty seven, dude, he's not getting young on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: the Do you think.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: He still got it? Sorry, I hate to cut you off.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I know you probably bere pivoting, but do you think
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Tom still has it?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Absolutely?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred absolutely. I hate when
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: people you think so many forties, like mid forty matter.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: They said that when he was forty. You know, he's
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: forty six. Now look how they got into the playoffs.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: Bro he was snapping and having comeback games. He threw
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: for four hundred yards just two weeks ago. They had
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, Brot, they had bro. I watched
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: football and Tom could still play. He's their whole line
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: was playing murdered this year. And that's just out of respect.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: They were. I think they were ranked last in the league.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Like he was getting hit all the time. They had
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, their backs were hurt, like they
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: had a lot of ship going on. But it's funny
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: you look back. You see what he did his last
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: year in New England when you all beat him, everyone
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 4: said the same thing. Oh he's done, He's he's done,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: and this is I look at it like and I'm
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: you know, I like to write that little story. It's like, oh,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: well his last who ras you know, two to three
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: year deal it, you know in Las Vegas, it's just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: come on, let's be real. Yeah, so we'll see.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: And he got studs on offense too.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: He's get a line. Our old line was played a
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: lot better than people expected this year. That's the.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Rushing chip on his shoulder.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: DeVante went for over fifteen hundred. We have Colt Miller, one
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: of the best left tackles in the league. We got
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: a lot of bro we got we got a lot
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: of a lot of sod guys for sure.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Do you think, uh, what do you think Josh Jacob's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: future is with the Raiders right now because he's about
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: to be a free agent.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: He's free agent. Yeah, so I know for a fact
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: that the coaches love him. Obviously. When they first came
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: they we had three first round picks from my class.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: It was Cleve, Josh, and John Abram. And before the
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: year they declined all their fifth year options. So everyone's like,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: oh fuck, they're you know how they are in New England.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: They don't value the running back. Boom bom boom, bom boom.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: From my perspective, I know Josh like me and Josh
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: have been boys since I got there, and Josh is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: one of those people that like he need like I
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: feel like he needs that little extra motivation like oh
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: you don't okay, I remember exactly what you said, He's
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: gonna make you look dumb. And that's what I feel
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: like this year was like everyone is saying, oh, it's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: new England. They don't you know, they don't value running
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: backs to saying they'll just bring him in. Josh literally
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: was the best running back in the league and this
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: year and he can't even argue it. Every category, yards
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: per carry, broken tackles, for amount of first rounds run
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: like he did everything. And so I'm extreme proud of him,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: obviously being being one of my boys. But I think
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: he's gonna stay here, bro, and no matter. I don't
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: know how that's what that's going to look like if
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: they tag or try to sign an extension, but I
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: think he's one that's one thousand percent earned an extension.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: Like the dude has been a pro bowler. I think
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: this is third time now in four years. So like
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: he's the dude is a dog. He's an absolute dog,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: you know, Josh, he's the ship. He plays too. He's
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: always banged up.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: And he's always about like you know, I remember when
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: we got our assole from the Chiefs.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was so pissed about him fumbling, like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 5: early in the game and just like, man on the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: outside looking in, what do you feel like it is?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I just fucking guy it like we just
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: got our ass. But he's very much like in it.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: He loves football.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves ball.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: That's what I talk about. The guys like that, the Davante's.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: We need guys that have that mindset, no matter what
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: the talent level. The Deron Harmon's the dude who really
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: loved football. That's what you need the building and Josh
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: is one that guy.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: Uh going back just for a second on the on
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: the DC situation, was there ever a time where you're like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: fuck Mancuz there there is.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: A lot uh uh you know that?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Like I think it was a statistic that was out
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: there that the Raiders been ranked like bottom tier defense
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: since he's been a quarterback. Do you like ever sit
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: there you're like, fuck, man, like you put a little
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: bit on yourself. Obviously you ultimately don't or you can't,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: but you're just like, fuck if we could.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: Have just honestly, bro, I don't know how to answer that,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, early in his career, like
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: their defense is like bottom defense every year, Like we
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: haven't been the worst of the worst, but we haven't
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: been great. But also you just look at it. We've
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: had three different decoordinators in the last three years, So, like,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: I think stability is a big thing as well, and
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: that's something you know, having Pat Graham back next year
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: for the second year, I feel like we're only going
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: to get better. And you know, having Josh back, Like everybody,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: if it immediately doesn't work, they're like, fucking fire everyone vote.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: That's that's the outside world, and that's just you know,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: that's natural because you see other coaches like day ball
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: comes in, boom, giants playoffs already, want to playoff game,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: be like, oh fuck, why aren't we doing that?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: Josh automatically gets compared to yeah, immediately compared.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: But every situation is different, and so you know, it
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: is what it is. You know, as from the fans perspective,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: it's like, what the fuck fucked him? We're firing them.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: That's how they think about every coach if you don't
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: succeed right away. But you know, I feel like Josh
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: is doing the right thing. It's just gonna take time,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: for sure, and I feel like we're you know, we're
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: going in the right direction.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Are you the Were you the biggest Pro Bowl snub
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: in the league?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: I made the Pro Bowl or a Pro a Pro?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on? Were you
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: the biggest All Pro snub in the league.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: That's not me to decide, but you're.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: A competitive motherfucker.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: No, it's that ship.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: I saw vocalize it a little bit or enough to
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: be like, hey, this is a receipt.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: I'm yeah, for sure, but it's it's like anything else. Bro,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 4: when I look at it, you know, you have this
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: own story in your head. Boom, this is how it's
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: gonna go. I want this, I want this, I'm gonna
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: get this like this year. Bro. If I look at like,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 4: I made All Pro last year, I was second team
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: All Pro, had eight sacks, but I had one hundred
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: plus pressures boom whatever. And that was like, you know,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: from the outside world, ever was like, Oh, it's a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: fucking flash in the pan. He's just doing it because
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: it was a contract. He needed to get a contract.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: Like I heard that shit all off season, Like okay,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: it was like this big storybook. Max told everybody about
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: his sobriety story. Like it was just like people, that's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: everyone had like, oh, it's just too good to be true.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: That was his year. But like people, I feel like
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: people in the outside world didn't truly respect me, like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: fully as like a Miles Garrett or TJ. Watts, cause
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: you know, they're all first round picks, they're all top
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: ten guys, they're all consistently ballers. Like so for me
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: going into this year, like my attitude was like fuck that,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm that guy, Like I'm gonna be that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: guy I'm gonna be because I'm always compared ever sus
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Khalil mac left. Like everyone talks about how the Raiders
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: been missing a pass rusher, missing Kalil mac. We haven't
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: recovered from Khalil mac leven. And that's like something I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: take super serious, bro like and I take offense, like
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: I take offense to that shit, like but in a
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: good way. I let he use his motivation and so
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: like in my storybook, like I have a lot of
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: things that I want to do and going into this year, like,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: all right, how am I gonna do better? How am
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: I gonna do better than second team All Pro? Okay,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: I want to be first team All Pro. I want
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: to do There's a lot of things. But I'm not
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: like a big like number. I don't I don't put
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: a number on anything like I'm gonna get this amount
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: of sacks, this amount of blah blah blah. For me,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: it's like I'm gonna fucking improve, well whatever that looks like,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna improve as a player and take it to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: another take a whole another step. And I've just from
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: a film perspective, from a stat perspective, I did that
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: and literally every fast I have more Bro. I led
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: the team in tackles as a d N. I have
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: fucking eighty nine tackles, Like I had twenty two TFLs.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: I led the league. I had twelve and a half sacks,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: was like tied six. I've pressures. I was top three
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: in the league, like every category, Like I took big strides.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: And for me, in my head, like my perfect story
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: is boom, I'm a start in the Pro Bowl again.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: I got that the last thing was all pro and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: I'm waiting. I'm like boom, I can't wait. But then
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I look at the list, I'm
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: like what and like I was shook, Bro, like I
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: was hurt, Like you know what, I mean deep down
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: like that. That shit hurt my pride. I'm like, what
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: the fuck? I got better? Bro, I know I got better,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: and I didn't make it. And that's like that's the thing,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: and in my perspective, in my world, like I wanted
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: that was the final thing that I fucking wanted on
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: this season. You know, we didn't make the playoffs. I
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: knew weren't making the playoffs, like just from my personal goals.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: And then I didn't get that. And I'm like, all right, motherfuckers,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Like the season went great, but I'm not doing enough.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: That's just the way I took it. And I know
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: I got back forgot yeah, But at the same time
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I forgot it, like bro, Like yeah, like I know
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: I got better. My goal was to get better. I
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: did bro everything in my power all fucking off season,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: every I did everything right, and then that was the
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: last thing that I wanted and boom, I didn't get it.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: And so for me, I could sit there and bitch
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: and go on Twitter. Fuck that is bullshit. You know.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: You see guys all the time bitching about the show.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: You see just a couple of games ago when fucking
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: dude had a meltdown and blaming the refs, and I
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: see dudes blaming all fucking old lineman hold all the time. Refs,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: don't call it like I'll never be that guy. Bro,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: I think that's you know, shit like that is so
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: weak to me, Like you're gonna get held, like I'm
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I know I get held all the time. You watch
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: the Rams last drive against us, But I was getting
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: literally tackled. But I'm not gonna go and double down
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: and go look like a little fucking cry baby. You
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. That's not me. So at the
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: end of the day, like the last thing I wanted
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: was to get that all pro But I know at
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, like I'm gonna look back
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: next year when I do everything I'd set out to
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: do and be like, yeah, this shit was for a reason.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: God needed that little That little thing is gonna fucking
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: push me to do that extra little wrap, the extra
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: little ship. And it is what it is, Like that
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: ship pisses me, like it really hurt me. But don't
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: you like that.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: You know that's kind of not for me to like, hey,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: come on now, he's like, man, I fucking bro that ship.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that ship, dude. No, Like I did I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: get it. It is what it is, and I can't
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 4: do anything like in my young self, like I thought
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: the same thing, like my rookie when I was going
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: my rookie year, Like I thought I was gonna win
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year. I thought I should have won it.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: I didn't, and but that helped me the next year.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: Like it's always something that every player needs, that little
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: extra motivation and like I can't control that. But at
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, Bro, I know like it's
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: all gonna pay off, Like it's all gonna I don't
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: need to force it and talk on Twitter and do
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: all this extra ship and complain. And what is that
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: gonna do for me? Bro? It's gonna make me look
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: like an ass if I go next year and don't
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: play as well, you know what I mean. Like I'm
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: to do everything I can to be better than I
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: was this year, and that's that's what's gonna push me.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it does what it is.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at it now like I was
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: snubbed that pissed you off, I think I gotta work
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: hard and do what were things little minor critiques you
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: make to your off season training regiment that might get
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: you that all pro.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: I honestly, I think that that's something I'm looking at
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: right now before I start training again. Before I start
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: training again. I do it every year, especially these last
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: two years.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Is you train here?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I train in Vegas?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: Do you train the facility? So yeah, that's something I'm
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: evaluating right now.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: He's like, he hears my mouth in the microphone.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Dude, we'll bro anytime someone goes and starts talking, he
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: opens his mouth like that, Well, the.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: Ship's going on up up, up up top.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: He's juicing me, you live together.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 5: I like com you know what I mean. I'm just like,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: it's just me taking in. I guess I can't fucking
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 5: hell you say.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: You say.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: You got me wrong?
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: I'm up.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: You got was like a hyper deal right there. Somebody
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: needs to cut that and put a bunch of music behind.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: It, Spartan music.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like drake, dude, did somebody tell me I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: fell off?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: I needed that?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: I needed it. But that's yeah for me, Like my routine,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: that's something I'm gonna breakdown. Like I've already talked to
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: the strength staff, the nutrition is We've already sat down
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: and boom, we're gonna this is what We're gonna do,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: a little adjustments where I can, you know, improve on.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: But it's it's not the work ethic part of it, bro.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: I put in I know I worked fucking extremely hard.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: It's just about how can I make it a little
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: bit better? What can I do a little bit smarter?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: A little shit like that, And so that like this
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: second year, like going into my third year, there was
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: a lot of big adjustments I had to make, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: I felt like I took another big step, like I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: added boxing into my off days instead of just doing
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: strictly tubs and chilling an hour boxing and in that
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: so there's something you know, there's always gonna be little
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: shit like I'm sorry, I'm gonna add yoga this offseason,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: like just adding little shit. But I you know, I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: don't know everything yet, but just try to take that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: take that next big step, because I know in this league, bro,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: like if the biggest thing is the guys that continue
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: to do it, and you know this fucking well being
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 4: a pro Bowl doing it over and over, like do
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: you either get worse or you get better? And like
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: there's no in between. You don't just stay the same
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: you don't like. For me, it's I can't like I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: can't even I don't even know what life will look
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: like just in my brain if I didn't do all
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: the things I was doing now, Like if I could
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: just chill this offseason, like a lot of guys do it,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: They're fucking chilling and and just take a step back,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: Like I can't even sit, Like I have to take
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: this time off to just let my body rest. But
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: I'm still meal prepping, stretching, norma, taking every day like
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: I have to do it for my own sanity. So
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: like that's that's what it is for me, bro, just
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: taking that next step. I'm fucking like obsessed with the
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: process because I know where I want to go and
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: I can't do it any other way. So I'm just
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: fine tuning everything. Well, you know, we'll see what we'll
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: be got on the agenda this offseason.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: The addiction becoming a superpower.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: An outstanding first impression for me with you.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: I'm very impressed.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: I'm glad you guys are finally You'm glad you guys
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: are finally meeting too. I'm like, damn, I thought I
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: guess you guys haven't met it.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: It's just crazy because when I literally when I saw you,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: we were waiting for us outside, which is very kind
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: of you, by the way, to wait for us when
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: we were pulling up, like, oh, there's the boy. Like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I feel, I literally feel like we've.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: Met before hung out.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: So this has been and it's cool to see your
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: mindset because you've got it, Bud. I appreciate it about
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: it everything but being white, like everything's going for you.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: It means a lot.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: Bro Taylor knows when I when I got to Oakland
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: and my boy checked in on me after my first
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: day in school with the Raiders, and I was like, hey,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 5: somebody on the squad is like a fan of Busting
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: with the Boys.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: I was like his max across me.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: You weren't who you are now, but it was like,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know, And now looking back, that's fucking cool.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy. That's crazy when you.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: Hey, you're like he's like telling somebody, goes, no, this
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 5: man is famous. I'm just kind of sitting there like nervous,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 5: you know, first day, in the.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: First day, Oh yeah, there's somebody.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: He's like, He's like, now I'll rock with busting with
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: the boys. I'm like, Yo, let's fucking go.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: That's a hilarious contrast to you going up the will
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: being like half fuck with you guys, and then Richie
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Incognita being.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Like, oh I do busting with the bully, just bullying
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: fucking bully. Melliam.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: How what was I like playing with that Richie?
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Shit? I love Richie. He is one of my favorite
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 4: teammates I've ever had. The dude is he like it's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: you talk about work ethic, That motherfucker works, bro, And
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: like takes the way he took care of his body,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: how massive he is and playing fifteen years white body
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: bro fucking soundtrack. Bro. And he looks like he's sixteen
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: years old in the face, no stretch, Like he just
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: the dude is different, and he's been through a lot
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: of ship and like just being around on him and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: getting to, you know, become closer with him, Like he
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: was truly one of the best team teammates I had,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: like take me under the wing like type of dude.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: Like he was exactly that guy. Like for some reason
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: when I first got there, like we practiced, you know,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: we start practicing doing ota together and like we started
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: to like become boys because I'm fucked up in the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: head like he is. Like I'm practicing hard as fuck,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Like we're not even in pads, and you know, I'm
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: a rookie. I'm just trying to make an impression and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: like I'm flying around the field. And for some reason,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: like Richie obviously is he pay He's paying attention a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 4: little bit seeing how I do shit, and like he
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: just we immediately clicked because he respected it, just how
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: I did shit. And ever since then, bro, we became boys.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: And I still like when he retired, I went up
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: and seen him, like on his retirement and like me
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: and him always, you know, been really cool. And he
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: goes to all the freaking games. I'll be on the
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: sideline about to walk, the game's about to start. He'll
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 4: be in there in a polo, just fucking grab me,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 4: give me a biggest hug in the planet, fucking throw
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: my rib out because he squeezes the life out of me.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: But he's yeah, I fucking I can go on and
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 4: on about Richie Bros. He's a loyal die hard, just
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 4: like real real bro.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: A healthy healthy is one of the best friends to have.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: No literally, he is an incredible human being, absolutely what.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: A massive fucking dog.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: He's a big boy.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: No, he stood up and everybody can see him to
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 5: everybody's like, holy ship. Literally, he like, take my life
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: any second you wanted.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: Max.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: I like, I came in the house before I came
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 5: in the house, and Max is like, hey, just walk straight,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: don't really, don't look down at don't make any facial expressions,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: and I'm just kind of like walking the house and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: Max just starts. He's like, you know, he's not gonna
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: do nothing, but he watched the wires.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: Watch the wires, Dirk.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 4: Direk, go, buddy, He's just gonna he'll be fine. He'll
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: stay on there for like five minutes.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: He was assessing the situation before he came over.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: He doesn't want to fun it up. Tear talk. Yeah,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 4: do we have well, let's take a quick pause talk.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah all right.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: So for Tier Talk this week, we are going to
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: do best dog breads, and I feel like best and favorite.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: There's a great line there, because I'm sure you could
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: look up the best dogs and it's probably like an
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: equal out with us. We'll say our favorite dog Brits
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: for our Tier Talk.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to go first?
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 5: Let me go first, I can go first my uh
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: no honorable mentions. My Tier three is going to be Rottweiler.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: We had a dog growing up, my parents' first dog
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: before they had me. You know how parents do the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 5: trial run, like, let's do a dog. We can take
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: care of a dog, we can take care of a
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: baby type thing. They had a Rottweiler named Conan after
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 5: Conne and the Barbarian. They had him trained all the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: way up to like he could have been like some
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 5: kind of like the police style training dog, but he
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 5: would have had to leave for like three months, but
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: a very well trained rotweiler and so ever since, Like
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: growing up with Conan, it was like I loved Rottweiler's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: my tier two.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: What I currently have waffle English bulldogs. They're just so like.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: Unique to me, dude, and like you come home, they
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 5: don't greet you. They stay on the couch. You go in,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: like you have to go give them love. They kind
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: of just look sad and like, but they love you.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: The all they want to do is cuddle. Yeah, they
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: got a couple issues, yeah, but all in all, like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: I love English bulldogs. My buddies would have would have
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 5: them when I was growing up and I would go
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 5: to their house and I love playing with them. And
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 5: then Rob Rob Deer deck on the Fantasy Pactor and everything.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: When they had that dog and it was skateboard and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: everything else. I just always thought it was the fucking coolest.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: Uh my Tier one pit bulls, I know it's I
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 5: know you love pits as well. I think pit bulls
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: are fucking awesome. Yeah, I used to have. I used
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: to have a pit named Boogie. I named I made
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: my dog Boogie after Levonte David. Levonte David's nickname in
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: college was Boogie little Horny Boy. And so I told
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: I told Boogie, I said, when I get my first dog,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be a pit, and I'm gonna name them
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: after you. So that's my story about having my pit. Then,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 5: you know, my girlfriend I broke up out of you know, guilt.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: You kind of like you can have Yeah, we can, Yeah,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 5: we can.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Cut that part out.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: But piles dud, I think, uh no, no, if you
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 5: guys hear a baby, that's Max's newborn.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: She's a STU.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: She's trying to get some time in on the pod.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 5: You gotta respect respect that. But but that's my tear
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: talk now what the rule is you go around the
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: room and everybody gives a one word answer on how
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 5: they feel like your tear talk wing kind of like
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: a judgment thing.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Okay, I'll let's tell you start this diseased Jesus not
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 9: a fan of pits?
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: Magnificent?
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: What would your word be? I'll go ahead and echo it,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: swol Mitch almost.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: You want to go?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: You want me to go next, I'll go all right.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 4: Tier three. I'm gonna start off little Curveball. You know,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 4: the only dogs I've ever had are pits. My parents.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: They own little, yappy little fuckers. I love them, but
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 4: I never claimed them. I'm gonna start Tier three with Doberman's,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: and the reason why is because they're excellent athletes. They're
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: fucking terrifying, and there's something about them. Every time I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: see a Doberman, you get a little like you don't
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: know what's gonna kill me? Is he gonna kill me?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: Or is he like? I want this dude by my side.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: So every time I see a Doberman, I just have
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 4: a level of respect for the dog that I felt
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: like it needed to make the list, because you know,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: they're not loved one enough. I feel like and they're
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: feared in a way, but I respect them. Tier two,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with rod Wilers. My teammates
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: in college, a ton of them had Rod Wiler's Cleeve Ferrell.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: He's got a roth Wiler, a great dog, super loyal,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: big ass, heady bears. But if they need to get
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: the job done, they'll get the job done. So I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 4: respect the shit out of them as well. But Number
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: one unanimous decision pit bulls. I got three best dogs
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: on the planet. They're loving, they're loyal as fuck, but
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: they will take you down if you cross the line.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: And that's the thing with them. My big guy, he's
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: an actually he's two pit bulls in.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: One, but is he knows like an XL.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: He's an XL bully, So he's a pit and an
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: American bulldog kit mixes. Yeah. So yeah. The thing with
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: pitts bro like they're super loyal, but they're big babies
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, Like if they love you,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: they're gonna just lay out like they act like they're
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: a human in the house. And uh, every time I
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: come home, there's the response is always the same. So
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: I respect their consistency. I expect that they got the
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: grit and they they're dangerous enough where people, you know,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: have a little bit of fear when they try to
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: cross the line, but they'll always be there for you.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 10: So big shout out to pipples all around the world.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 10: Gritty Yes, I love that JP boo Yeah, dominant from
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 10: JP Mitch tough Alpha.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Just speaking of dude, I wish the camera can catch that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: Look at that man. You sure rob this place and
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: come here, dirt, dirt, dirt here, all right, here he comes.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: That was the most Dan Campbell for answers I've ever
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: heard of my life. Yeah, grit, tough, chevy t.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: Should you said, Dan Campbell, We.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Could have said, all right, my tier talk bro. He
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: just walks loud.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: He's heavy.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All three of my tiers are pitbulls. Okay, let's
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: see by tier three. I grew up on a ranch
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: in Arizona. Every cowboy had this dog, and it was
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: the Blue Healer. Those dogs would work cows, they'd work
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: with horses, they'd work with sheep. They do the job
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: that needed to get done. The reason why they're not
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: higher on my list is because they are rambunctious, energetic,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: and if they're not trained properly. They will absolutely ankle
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: by any visitor at all times. I love the way
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: they look, I love the way they get after it,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: and they're hard working, just like the Chevy Silverado. And
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: that's why they must be in my list. That that
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: is my tier three.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: Taylor, I want to cut you off, but those blue
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: heelers look very similar to like German shepherds, but they're
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: kind of smaller right, completely getting the business. They're shorter haired.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard to explain, like any movie you've seen with
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: a cowboy. Yeah, extremely smart and we'll go all day
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: like they will go and work all day for you.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: But if you want to own one, you got to
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: like you gotta have some wide open spaces from the run.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 4: My tier two.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: This dog would have never made my list until I
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: met my wife. She has this dog. I think I
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: didn't know what to think about. I thought they were
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: beautiful and majestic. I thought seeing her like up in
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: the mountains with the snow, I'm like, Wow, what a
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: beautiful dog. But I don't think I'll ever own this one.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: This dog is going to be the husky, Siberian husky.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: They shed like shit. But my wife's dog Akira does
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: getting pets from hers like pickles on a sandwich. She'll
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: take them or leave them, it doesn't really matter to her.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: She hangs out, she does her things. She's the most
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: low maintenance dog in the world. And it's completely changed
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: my views on huskies. I think they're an incredible species
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: of animal, extremely smart and very vocal. And my tier
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: one goes out too, the greatest dog you could possibly get.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: When you go down to a humane society and you
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: look around those little crates and gates and you see
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: dogs staring at you, it's not just one type of dog.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: It's a whole bunch of types of dogs. And when
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: you take a cocktail combination of animals and you put
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: them together, most of the time you're gonna get the
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: best combo possible. So my tier one is the mutt,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: the mix of all those animals you put them together.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: They look funny most of the time, they are funny
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: most of the time, and they usually have the best personalities.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: So the mutt, those pound puppies are my tier one.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: Sure unique.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: Politically political, Yeah.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 4: Own the number one.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: The gods here, why not.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: In there? I had him in there?
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: But he's right, that's why I got a little up
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: in arms as I thought, Damn, I'm gonna get I
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: don't think I'm ready to take this right now. I'm
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: not ready to take these hands on the internet. But
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I do love the Chihuahua. I think the chiuala is
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: fucking hilarious. When I was a little kid and I
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: would see the taiaro top of bell dogs ripping around
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: the little short haired brown cos I would say to myself, someday,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this dog and I would have little
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: matching outfits, gonna be cool little glasses, little chill boys
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: hanging out. Now, I have a stipulation for these dogs
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to get. Some day. I will own
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: a chiuaba someday. I have to make sure that I got.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: This has got to be anomaly of uava. It can't
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: bark and it can't bite. Other than that, dude, they're
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: chill boys and they're outstanding. Maybe you should boy's gonna
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: have a muscle.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stereotype, but every Chua I've met is
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: the meanest fucking dog I've ever met.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: Number two and dog attacks Chua is the breaking number
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: two amongst all dogs and attacks.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's you want to do your one word no, no,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: If you were gonna have chiuaa, I was gonna have
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: a high maintenance.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: This sus I know who I am. Anyways, Yeah, well,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: boys and girls, that is.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: When I went to end the episode. Yeah, shout out
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: to what we got for Maxie.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: I don't think so were you guys listened throughout the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: episode and was intrigued to get a question out or
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: go any further into anything. He was saying, Mitch loves ball,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: So I'm kind of looking at me, and I feel
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: like he's like, was getting a boner over of there
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: listening you talk about fucking work, ethic and ship. Our
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: ESPN reporter Mitch wants to know what Davante Adams brings
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: to a team.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 4: Davante Adams the thing with him, like I've been you know,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: you were you were there with the whole ab saga.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: Well you you came after it was that same year.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: It was that same year. So that was the first
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: Superstar receiver I ever dealt with. So I'm like, okay,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: this is you know, you hear their divas there, so
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: I got to experience that whole thing. So my first
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: like initial thought was like Okay, I've heard nothing but
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: good things about Davante, like just from the outside world,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 4: Like you don't hear him talking like I'm the best
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah, Like on the outside he's not. He's
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: never been that guy. So when he was coming, I
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: was kind of I didn't know what to expect. I
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: didn't know if he was you know what he was
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: like whatever, get another a yeah, like it maybe another
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: fucking diva, Like that's not the guy you want in
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 4: the locker room, regardless. And the day he came in there, bro,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 4: Like when I talk about everything I talked about like
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 4: a teammate, you want to dude who fucking practices the
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: right way, fucking trains the right way every single day.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 4: He's that guy, bro. And he's one of the most
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 4: humble dudes, but extremely confident at the same time. He's
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: not arrogant, he's not that, but he knows who he is,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's the level of
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: confidence that a lot of guys can't get to. Because
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: when you talk about Devontae Adams Emilia, oh, he's best
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: step in the league. Like he's always in that conversation.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 4: So he's just a great teammate. Bro, and he's awesome,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 4: like just being around him. I fucking love Davante like
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 4: he I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. Bro,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 4: He's unique. He's super fucking smart. Like he's just a
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 4: different type of dude. And you could tell, like there's
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 4: a reason why he's different, you know what I mean,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: just the way he plays. Bro, he has no fear,
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 4: he knows he's the guy, and like he loves football.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 4: And that's that's really all you can say about him. Bro,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: He's I can go on and on, but he's a
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 4: he's a great teammate. BRO. Love him to death. And
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: I've only known him for a year. Bro, I fucking
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: I talked to him all the time. Like it's not
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: like you know in most locker rooms, like sometimes you
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: just talk to your d line guys and stuff like that.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: Like Devanta is one of those guys. Like he's one
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: of my one of the best teammates on the team.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: I talked to him all the time. He's a captain.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: He's just h Yeah, he's a total package. Yeah, he's
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: a stuff. Bro. I love that dude.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: He's a stud. Good question, good work. Oh yeah, we're
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: always looking to improve.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, improved. Yeah yeah.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: If you can hear that in the background right now,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: Dirk is chugging.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, he's getting after it, dude.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: On that. I totally forgot about the Apes as a rookie.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: What was that experience like for you?
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: Was it as bad as it was wild?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Like I don't know how to explain it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: So when I when I first came in Boom, I
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: got jibted by the Raiders. We signed like we had
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: signed ab Ritchie Vontes, berfect, like we like every big
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: like you think about the craziest motherfucker. They were all
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: on our team. So I didn't know what to expect.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: The AB shit, Like Ab is a person. Like if
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: you if Ab sat here with us right now and
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: you genuinely like, it's just us in the room, no cameras, nothing,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: you would love a B. He would love AB. You'd
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: be like, he's down the earth. He's a great dude.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: But the second he left the building, bro, you didn't
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: know what the fuck was about to happen. It was
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: every day bro. He would go, what's up, man, Hey man,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: what up man? Eastern Michigan blah blah blah. I played
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: you know you played at Central, Like that was like
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: my end with him. That's a rookie. I'm like, oh,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 4: be cool with that motherfucker. And so we're cool. But
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: like you would go home and all of a sudden,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: there's something on Instagram and then like as a shit
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 4: started getting crazy because he came in he burned his
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: feet off and then he had the helmet shit. So
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 4: he was never practicing. He never was around the off season.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 4: We're like, what the fuck is going on? He would
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: show up here and there, but like and when you
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 4: be with like a camera crew and ship, like, oh,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 4: he would bring a posse with him everywhere in.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: The facility.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: It was not a it was kind of like a
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 5: high schoolish like you had some aisles, but not a
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: lot of room in the in the locker.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 4: Room, bro, Like he had his own posse. So it
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: was like in the weight room he had his own
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 4: trainers come. So it was just a lot, bro. But
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 4: you would never, like if you just sat there like
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 4: he can he really is, Like he's not. I don't
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: I don't know. He's got he's got his own ship.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 4: He's got to deal with you know what I mean.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of ship that's going on. But like
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 4: my experience one on one with him outside of the media,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: outside of that ship, like he was cool as fuck,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 4: but I don't know, he's got a lot of shit
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: going on. But like Vontes, like Vante, you would think
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: about Vonte's birth, You're like, oh my god, that's a
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: fucking murderer. Right, he is the fucking coolest dude, bro,
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: Like coolest ship. He came right up to me. Was
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 4: like at first, I was terrifle. I'm like, okay, this
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 4: Vonte perfect. That's a bad motherfucker. Like yeah, I'm you know,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to earn that respect. Like I didn't
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 4: even know how to talk to him. At first. He
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: was cool as shit, great leader, like great dude in
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: the locker room, like everyone fucked with him, and he
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: was a real leader. He was dope. And then Richie's
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: the same thing, Like obviously Richie's had his shit too,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 4: like he's gone through a lot of shit, but Richie's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: a fucking great teammate. So yeah, my whole experience with everybody,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: like he would think from the outside it was like
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: oh my god, but like inside the building, like ab
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 4: was gone before the season like we're just waiting, like
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: we're like, okay, is Abe even gonna play? Like there
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 4: was something after There's just always something, And then he
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: leaked like Gruden's call on the fucking Instagram. Bro. Literally
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: after he came up and talked to the whole team.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: He came up, Bro, all the captains went up there.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: Ab walked up on the stage. He apologized. We're like
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: all right, bet so we're like okay, he's about to play,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: Like fuck yeah, AB's on board now, so everyone's excited. Bro.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 4: That night he posted the shit with Gruden and how
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 4: you know what is fucking wild. The same day, me
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 4: and Clear take like what literally just talking.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: About this ship. He's like I'm doing with the games man.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 4: I apologize and was like, oh fuck it, bro, like
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: we get it, Like everybody goes through shiit, so like
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: I'm that's from my personal bro. I always give people
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt. So like I it's a
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 4: b bro, Like fuck it, He's going through his ship,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 4: but like he wants to play everything seen one hundred
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 4: percent genuine boom boom boom. Literally that night he puts
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 4: on Instagram like the whole Grooden ship every and just
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 4: like I'm like, what And then by the next morning
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: he was cut be and clear in the building. Mayo's
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: walking up through the hallway with a smile because may
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 4: I had to deal with all the ship and may
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: I really wanted him to be a part of it. Gruden,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 4: they fucking they wanted to love him, but like there
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 4: was more to it, you know what I mean. He
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: was going I don't know what he was going through,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: but like, and I pray for dudes like that. I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 4: don't know what he's going, what's got, what he's got
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: going on upstairs, Like it's tough. But yeah, like people
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 4: were like it was like brought the fresh air, bro.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: It was something every single day, and he was supposed
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 4: to be our franchise guy, Like we're bringing a b
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 4: to fucking lass Babs like the best bro, the best.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 4: He was so fu cold. I'm like, he's my team bro,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: he's the coldest.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 5: And they said, like when he's out on the Price
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: Beld like that motherfucker is running all day long, running
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to do extra after Like it's just it
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 5: seems just seems like a bizarre.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like was there ever a weird
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: dynamic between Vonte' and a B not at all really
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 4: boys because he executed go to It's like a hit.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 4: That's what people say, Yeah, like, oh he got CT
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: from that. You know everyone, That's what they're saying, like, yeah, yeah, everybody.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: They must sucking up, bro when they came in the
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: fucking locker room. But everybody was. Everybody was cool as
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: ship like Vontez and him were boy like. It was no,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: there was no friction at all. Richie and Ab were
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: boys like it was when we were all just together
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 4: as boy like, as teammates. There was no issues. But
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 4: it's just there was a bunch of ship going on
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: and the outside and it's just you look back, you're like, damn,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: what if. But you never know. It's crazy. But like
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 4: we've had a B. We kind of had a B
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: and now we have Devanta, Like we've had some guys
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 4: come in. It's just some cats, crazy, some dudes.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: Dude, We appreciate you, man. This has been fucking phenomenal.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: It has been a phenomenal episode.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, I've had a blast. I'm glad you guys got
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 4: to come to the crib, meet the dogs, the whole shabam.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 4: Some wing stops, some pizza, yeah, wings stop, water, the boys,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 4: you know, intimidating.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Pulling up and seeing what you got sitting outside.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: You like that.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice, it was all It seemed like
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: it was perfectly for that.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: He's like, all the boys are coming. Hold on, that's
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: perfect an episode of MTV crib Bro.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: It really was. Yeah, you've earned it and you're wearing
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: the chain. Look at the wrists, both of.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Them something something.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: How many are you going to you to do a
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: full bodysuit tattoo? What are we talking about here?
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: I want to get my chest, my upper back, and
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: my like, I want to get my whole like Torso done.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: This off season. Oh yeah, my guy is moving to Vegas.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: He's from Boston, so, like I usually only get to
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: see him like once an off season and we just
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: knocked ship out. But he's moving here in March, so
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: we might get some uh some action.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get it right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to get like you you got all
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: types of ship. We're covered up a little bit.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: I guess I got work to do still.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just work out there. Yeah. My legs, my legs,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: I haven't even got back to him.
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  Speaker 3: You have to see his chest. He's got a cool
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: little dog there.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to get I'm starting to have most
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: of my torso done. I needed there's a couple of
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: pieces right here by my whole back done. I need
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: to get like a couple of places. It's not important,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get it.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 4: Hello. Well, thank you so much.
• 1:38:52
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• 1:39:00
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• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: So that's like, yeah, that's the only thing.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: As you're saying, you're like, yeah, by the time this
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: comes out, it's gonna be overwheling.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, that last time I did a couple of
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: days ago, I didn't. Yeah, but big hugs, tiny kisses,