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NFL Week 14 Recap · Banter with the Boys

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  It's time for Bantor with the Boys.
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  What's up everybody?
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  Welcome back to Bantor with the Boys.
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  I'm back this week.
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  I had a little sickness last week that went through the household.
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  Thank you Daycare.
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  That is a joy.
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  That is a joy.
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  As always, got my main man Smelty with me.
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  How we doing?
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  I'm alright.
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  You're back, back again of course.
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  But yeah, hopefully we took care of business last week while you were gone, Kevin and I.
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  But welcome back.
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  Hopefully is everybody feeling good?
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  Like everybody in the household now healthy?
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  Well I don't know if it's necessarily the most healthy, but we're feeling a lot better
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  than last week.
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  We're feeling a lot better than last week.
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  Trending in the right direction.
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  Draft stock is going up.
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  Absolutely man, absolutely.
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  Draft stock is back up and running.
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  We were projected back in the second round.
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  Still got some work to do to get to the first.
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  But on that note, thank you guys for taking over last week.
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  Cavity did an amazing job brother.
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  Not always on the X's and the O's.
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  Sometimes you got to make those appearances.
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  We love you man.
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  On that note, let's get into the week 14 recap.
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  Unfortunately we're going to start with my Packers this week.
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  Boy did they shit the bed last night.
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  For whatever reason this year we show up against the good teams, can't show up against the
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  bad teams that we're supposed to beat.
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  We ended up losing this one 22-24.
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  Did have the lead, you know for the most part going into the second half at least you know
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  we did.
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  Then the Giants kind of maybe went on a little run.
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  The offense was back to what it was when I was back talking shit about the offense that
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  we did have.
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  So I think I am going to go back to just not being high on Jordan Love because for whatever
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  reason he just has a vendetta against me personally.
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  He listens to the pot.
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  He does.
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  He does.
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  So keep listening J Love.
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  As much as I love my Packers I hate you.
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  So hopefully this is what it takes to get back into your prime form as I'm kidding I
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  don't hate you J Love.
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  But what do you think Smelty?
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  What a shitty game man.
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  Who do they play next week?
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  The Bucs?
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  No okay it'll go for 300 yards and three tuds next week.
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  Now you talk shit about them.
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  No I mean all in all I don't know the Packers look different this week than they did the
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  week prior.
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  I don't know J Love just wasn't as sharp this week and it was obvious.
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  And then you know leading as late as they did and then obviously who caught that touchdown
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  at the end was it Jaden Reed?
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  Or I'm sorry yeah Jaden Reed was it Reed that caught that touchdown?
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  For the Packers?
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  No.
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  Milly Heath.
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  Did they?
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  Oh that's right they overturned that one that he reached across the goal line with right?
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  Yeah yeah that's right and then they found Heath okay okay.
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  But like the drive after that for the Giants like what the hell happened with the defense?
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  Tommy Cutlet's brother?
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  I don't know man the defense actually played pretty damn good this whole game especially
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  for.
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  Until that moment.
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  Yeah until we needed them the most then you know they got the run game going and like
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  the last two or three drives was where the bulk of Saquon's yards came from in this game.
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  We couldn't stop Tommy DeVito in the run game.
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  You know he didn't have a great game passing.
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  He's 17 for 21 looks good but for 158 yards and one touchdown.
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  But no picks no sacks?
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  No picks no sacks.
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  What surprised me the most about this game is we did not get any sacks.
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  The Giants offensive line is one of the worst in the league.
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  We have a pretty formidable pass rush you know they're not gaudy you know they're not
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  the they're not the Niners and then not the Cowboys nothing remotely close to that but
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  you know we do have Rashaun Gary.
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  He didn't show up this game and I've been praising him throughout the whole year and
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  we just we couldn't contain DeVito for one and then we just couldn't really get the pressure
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  on him to cause that big defensive play that's kind of gotten us through the last couple
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  of weeks.
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  Like the like the picks and other stuff like that.
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  It just wasn't there and that and that's the thing him being 17 for 21 yeah it's only 158
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  yards but what that tells me is that he's able to find his check downs quick.
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  You know he's able to bail out of whatever you know I'm sure walking up to the line you
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  have somebody you're looking for immediately like I'm looking for this dude off the snap
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  immediately but he's able to move on from it.
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  Unlike some other quarterbacks we'll talk about tonight but he's able to move on from
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  that first read even the second read boom there's your check down before he gets sacked
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  or is able to throw the ball away but only four incompletions he was obviously finding
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  people all game.
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  Yeah it might only be for two yards but two yards is better than zero yards.
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  Yeah and those four incompletions I want to they like there was two really bad throws
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  on their first drive and then the next drive there was one so I mean if my memory serves
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  me right that's three of those four in the first two drives and then you look at love
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  on the other side the first drive he missed two throws that weren't hard throws you just
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  have to make those throws and then that pick was just horrendous.
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  Yeah horrible the first drive they went three and out yeah or did they get one first they
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  didn't go three and out.
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  I believe they no they went three and out because it was a quick pass outside that he
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  just completely missed I believe it was Dobbs then he missed AJ Dillon on a wide open one
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  it was just not that he was like highly pressured he just straight up sails it and like I said
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  that pick is it was just horrendous you can't make that throw I don't know what he was thinking
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  and you know luckily the Giants didn't capitalize on that our defense played great the first
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  half and then they did but the offense was really forcing it to me the Packers offense
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  was forcing it no matter if they were trying to run the ball or throw the ball they're
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  forcing it I mean 39 attempts you're forcing him to try to throw the ball on this defense
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  which you should be able to do.
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  No you absolutely should be able to it's the Giants don't have a great defense by any way
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  shape or form and it was just a weird game because I mean the Packers were basically
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  in control of the game as poor as they played until Keisha until Keisha and Nixon muffed
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  that punt in the second half and then the Giants scored almost immediately so that was
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  and then you know the Giants just kind of didn't lose that momentum we tried to gain
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  it back we actually drove down the field one one drive we're just they couldn't stop AJ
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  Dillon from getting three to four five yards a carry and love was actually finding those
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  receivers and then we try a double fucking reverse like what are we doing just like like
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  we're actually getting a north and south right now which you really haven't been able to
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  do and then you just try this and yeah the the the end around to Jayden Reed was working
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  great but like why when you're having that that just blows my mind about this LeFleur
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  play calling it just you have something going and then you have to do this trick play and
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  then the double reverse try pass like what are we doing right now you're just killing
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  your own momentum any any time the Packers look like they're starting to gain some momentum
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  and I don't care what anybody said how do you feel about momentum like momentum in a
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  game whether it's a matter whatever especially as the away team right like if you have well
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  I say that I mean I say that is in it weighs heavier as a home team so if you have the
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  momentum as an away team like you have to take advantage of that because it's not something
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  you're gonna regularly get you're not gonna get it the entire game no and it just takes
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  one play for that momentum to shift if you're the way team and I it was just it was just
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  every drive they really couldn't yeah there's points on the board but they they just struggle
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  to put together full drives every game every game every game yeah you're right and usually
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  that falls in the first half like the offense was just it just I don't understand and they
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  were they were winning at halftime right yeah tennis 10-7 doing just fine again most likely
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  in control of the game and then they decide to I don't know I feel like they really didn't
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  adjust much coming out of half they didn't they didn't adjust much coming out of half
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  at all and that's actually where we've had a lot of success right is your second half
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  and where that momentum shift is that must punt was the Packers actually went three and
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  out and held the Giants are three and out coming out of the half and then we must upon
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  we give it to them in their own 20 and I mean the game was really over from there the the
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  Giants went up 1410 and then the Packers did end up going up 2221 you know they got the
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  that field goal and that that missed field goal by Anders Carlsen really hurts now especially
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  you know with the the game from what it was and I don't know this game was just frustrating
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  because at no point did I think like the Packers were in full control of this game that they
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  were gonna pull it off and I just should have that confidence against the Giants you should
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  know you definitely should but like DeVito and Barkley were and we're doing just enough
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  to keep them in front he was either one of them coming up with a clutch play every drive
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  to kind of keep that hope alive that they could beat you guys so I I feel like the Packers
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  really let only two players beat them truly it 100% 100% it was nobody defensively jumped
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  off the stat sheet and yeah man all of the confidence I had from the last three weeks
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  playing three two really good teams one good team and then you just throw it away I mean
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  we're still in the playoffs right now so I mean it's not like I'm just down on the season
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  we have a very easy schedule yeah right right yeah it's not it's not super hard you go no
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  actually I'm sorry the Bucks go to you this weekend I think that's a winnable game that's
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  a game that you have to use to get back on track to sneak into that playoff yeah and
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  then it's Panthers Vikings Bears all winnable games I believe the Bears game is at Lambeau
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  if I'm not mistaken those are all winnable games yeah they're all games were favored
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  in like as of right now and when we were six and a half point favorite going into this
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  game which I obviously we both took that we thought it was easy money it was not easy
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  money no that's that's when I was just like all right we were on a roll we're gonna keep
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  rolling but enough about the Packers man I really think we're gonna bounce back next
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  week we still like I said are in playoffs right now we control our own destiny so it's
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  I think we could still make the playoffs this year will we do anything that's depends on
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  the J love we get let's transition here let's take a step here and go to the most exciting
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  game we had of the weekend with your Minnesota Vikings traveling to the sin city and pulling
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  out a squeaker that's kind of how it feels a squeaker I think we both have two different
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  definitions of exciting because I I don't know like just just to give you an example
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  like when the Vikings were getting smoked and then if she championship game in Philly
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  a number of years back I watched the whole game I don't know why it was really disheartening
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  but I saw I watched the whole damn game and this weekend I damn near wanted to turn that
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  thing off it was so ha no words I have no words I tell you what Josh Dobbs as we found
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  out today Nick Mullins will be the starter going into next week but the deal with Josh
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  Dobbs I think he just he he knows who he's gonna throw to immediately and he doesn't
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  come off them and then when they're not open he waits for them to get open and that's where
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  either okay now it's either he's scrambling or taking a sack if we're lucky he throws
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  the ball away but he literally you saw it this week and he literally waited until somebody
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  came open instead of throwing someone open instead of even he wasn't even leading his
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  receivers some of the throws they were behind him because he waited and then threw it to
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  where they where they are not where they were going so I just Josh jobs took a huge step
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  backwards this week just in his professional career I he was on track to potentially earn
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  a big ish contract as a backup to potentially challenge for a starting spot if not start
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  for the Vikings next season and now I don't think that's even in the question I think
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  Kwesi's calling Kirk Cousins at halftime like hey homie let's get this deal worked out like
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  today yeah absolutely I mean that game was terrible I had it on as one of the the quad
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  boxes on the big TV and I say that like it's a fucking theater room it's just my living
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  room TV it's just not my laptop which I watch restaurant theater room fake it till you make
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  it you got a theater room but yeah so I had it on and I was actually you know the four
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  games that's the one I was listening to but I really can't say I was steak yeah I can't
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  say I watched it because it was just I tried you know because it's being in on this podcast
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  we talk about two games the most our two teams so I'd you know want to have a vested interest
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  and I just couldn't do a man it was it just both sides it was terrible I mean good defensive
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  game the defenses looked good and then Max Crosby's just a fucking wrecking freak of
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  nature dude and and the thing is is like people are gonna say oh of course you're gonna say
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  good defenses but when the offensive sucks so bad it's a little both a little both I
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  do think both defenses played pretty darn well like you mentioned Max Crosby dude he
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  manhandled Brian O'Neill until he injured Brian O'Neill all game I think O'Neill went
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  out in the third quarter it could have been the second quarter I can't remember off the
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  top of my head but dude he was manhandling all him all game and Brian O'Neill is what
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  one two time all-pro one of the better right tackles in the league he's starting to sputter
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  a little bit he is but he's still top ten right tackle in the league I would say so
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  top five okay yeah coming from peg fan top five and Max Crosby absolutely man like almost
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  what Kalo Mack was doing to to tackles like what four years ago or whatever just manhandling
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  yeah it was I mean that was actually it was it was pretty fun to watch just because you
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  don't you don't really see that to pay more attention to the defense in this game on both
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  sides probably because there's nothing going on on the offense so you it forced people
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  that normally maybe don't look at the defenses as much to actually watch the defense you
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  know I don't know yeah I mean if you wanted to like get any excitement out of the game
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  you had to look for defensive plays so yeah but I mean it was just the Vikings defense
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  actually looked really good and like you said yeah the offenses were shit but it's you still
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  got to give credit where credit's due and I do think that you know especially I know
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  you're gonna touch on them but that Ivan Pace jr. he had himself a little coming out party
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  eh well this whole season's a coming out party for him he was an undrafted rookie out of
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  Cincinnati or South Carolina Cincinnati it was a Cincinnati okay I was like I knew it
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  was whatever anyway I was right um undrafted rookie kind of made waves in preseason like
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  people were like well who is this kid and then he kind of he made the roster obviously
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  and then kind of started getting slotted into that starting role because he earned it and
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  you just saw why this past weekend I mean 13 tackles one of them a sack he was he was
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  in the quarterback's face all game he also ended up getting the pretty much the game
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  ceiling pick he read that play like a book just dropped back into coverage I don't know
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  if Aiden didn't see him or whatever but he hucked it right at him and made the play game
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  over pretty much but I mean the Vikings all in all I mean it was an abysmal game on the
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  offensive side of the ball really the only positive is that Alexander Madison was having
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  a great game until he hurt his ankle and then he was kind of I don't think he came back
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  in the game but if he did it was like one play and then he was like I can't go so 10
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  carries 66 yards for him but he actually started breaking some tackles for the first time this
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  season which you haven't seen all year which is kind of what you know us Vikings fans have
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  been asking for which is kind of what he was doing when he was the number two behind Dalvin
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  that power back roll kind of so we saw a little bit of that this weekend so that was that
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  was a positive for me Nick Mullins starting next week we'll see I mean at least at least
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  what Mullins was doing was throwing getting rid of the ball before the receivers were
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  even out of their breaks that's what you have to do in the NFL that's how tight your windows
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  are in the NFL and you saw Nick Mullins doing that kind of Kirk Cousins esque yeah Nick
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  Mullins actually looks halfway decent when he came in he brought some excitement to the
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  game and lately you were touching on Madison it's like he was running angry for the first
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  time this year yeah he didn't look like himself at all this year and that was it should be
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  encouraging as a Vikings fan because you're gonna get JJ back hopefully who knows if he
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  just can last more than a series but it's uh it gives you at least a little bit of balance
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  and that's something that the Vikings offense has like seriously lacked this year so I'd
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  be encouraged if I was a Vikings fan coming out of what you saw in Millen Mullins now
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  granted small sample size so we'll see what he does this week who you guys play they play
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  the at in Cincinnati with against a red hot Jake Browning Jake Browning or Jake Burrow
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  here buddy let's also former Viking of course I didn't know that yeah yeah yeah yeah but
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  uh just real quick before we wrap up this game that really means nothing um Devante
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  Adams uh what what what's next for Devante Adams because I really don't think it's Vegas
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  right now and there's no way he's gonna they just they had a view of him sitting on the
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  sideline this is before the game was even over before you it was still zero zero and
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  uh dude he just looked really beside himself like contemplating life in general like what
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  am I doing here you know he went there to play with Derek Carr obviously and that didn't
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  work out um there's got to be something else that's going to be next for him because I
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  think he's still under contract for next season I can't remember but we all looked that up
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  here but uh I don't know like what what what's next for Devante Adams that's a great question
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  you know I don't uh I don't see Devante Adams as a Raider next year I yeah you know that's
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  what I'm that's what I'm saying I don't either so I'm curious where he goes um do the Jets
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  try to make a play I don't think the Jets I don't know if that's that's crazy that's
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  crazy I don't think so but what if he has he has three years left on his deal I know
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  I just looked too I was like holy shit and it's it's a lot of money I mean you're talking
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  next year's uh well the Vegas Vegas would have to eat some money for him to leave Vegas
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  definitely would have to eat eat some money and I don't know if the Jets the Jets might
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  they're so young that they would have to give up I think too much and but at the same time
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  like Rodgers only has two to three years left and I'm like maybe so you're in the Super
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  Bowl window right now I think Devante would be a great fit on that team pairing him up
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  with Garrett Wilson giving Garrett Wilson that veteran present and I just I it sucks
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  to see because you know I'm a Packer fan and he did he meant so much to me and the Packers
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  that now you see him kind of trickle off when he since he's left now you had two good years
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  in Vegas or you're in and that's the thing like I think if he has a change of scenery
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  next year that trickle effect won't be in effect no because I think he's just suffering
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  to lack of poor quarterback play 100 100 and it'd be interesting I think the Jets would
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  probably be the biggest players in getting them but you would think at least for a PR
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  move but I just I don't who else like I seriously I what about the team that's gonna be flushing
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  Cavs space that's really young that's impressed a lot this year I would love to see him down
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  there with CJ Stroud in Houston mmm oh are you looking at him like Indy yeah young Anthony
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  Richardson but I don't think that would be as enticing for Devante because at this point
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  in his career he's playing to win a championship and get a Super Bowl so I don't think I don't
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  I don't know if he would be the thing that would put him over the edge per se in Houston
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  I think who else could afford him even like I don't even know I think anybody else could
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  afford him unless he stays in Vegas or goes to one of those younger teams and tries to
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  help them make a run like seriously I don't think any of the top teams right now he'd
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  be able to slot in anywhere now does Jerry Jones make something crazy happen to get a
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  Devante Adams maybe I don't know what he would make happen because they're pretty set the
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  way they are but if you add a Devante to that lineup I don't think the Cowboys there's
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  no way so I'm looking at the salary is Devante is yacht it's fine yeah I'm looking for the
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  salary cap next year for the teams and the Cowboys are projected right now to be 13 million
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  under over the cap yeah so not happening no so it's not happening but looking at the top
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  five teams here you have the commanders Titans Patriots Colts and Texans so Colts and Texans
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  have more than seventy thousand dollars in available cap Patriots wouldn't be enticing
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  for him because they don't have a quarterback and he'd be to have to trust in either Caleb
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  Williams or Drake May who is there probably going one of them will be a Patriot next year
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  look at the Colts where so then you have the Titans will Levis looks all right but they're
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  not a championship team and then the commanders don't have a quarterback Sam Hall is not going
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  to be the team let's get the quarterback that takes him to greatness but hearing Devante
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  Adams with Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, Deon Brown.
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  Think about him going to that that's what I was saying thinking like when you started
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  listing those teams I was like well Washington's an option maybe but you're right they don't
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  have they don't have a quarterback Sam Hall is not it.
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  You look at those other four teams there's there's really only one team in that top five
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  that has what you could say a solidified top-tier quarterback right now and that's CJ Shroud.
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  Right right and I guess we'll see we'll have to see what happens but I mean I think I think
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  Vegas needs to dump them because him sulking on the sidelines not a good look for either
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  one of them and Vegas isn't anywhere close to contending no no they're going they're
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  about to go into a full rebuild I mean they need to get rid of their head coach and they
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  need to get a quarterback yeah they're a long ways out I guess from those teams I would
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  have the most room Houston does look the most promising you know they're not looking bad
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  in general maybe it'd be a big addition for him and right now the Raiders are projected
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  to have the seventh pick so that's you're not getting Drake May or Caleb Williams and
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  I'm not really a bow nicks and that's not gonna work out I'm not big on any other quarterback
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  coming out this year I'm really not bow nicks I think has he has the Caleb Williams even
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  say if he's for sure coming out yet I know Drake may come on I know but like with the
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  NIL money he can make like if the NIL Mellie pales in comparison to an NFL salary nah-uh
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  brah did you see that did you see that did you see the the possibility for Marvin Harrison
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  jr. okay that's stay in Ohio State yeah but the thing is is don't think Caleb Williams
• 23:10
  is gonna get that kind of money I don't think he would get as much as an Ohio State player
• 23:14
  Ohio State's the most touted blah blah blah quarterback I said I don't think he would
• 23:21
  get as much as Marvin is what Marvin's being offered because simply because Marvin is a
• 23:26
  sure bet 100% sure bet Caleb is kind of going under that number rough to this year Marvin
• 23:32
  Harrison Caleb Caleb no no yeah I was gonna say it's not Marvin no no no started great
• 23:35
  but he kind of fell into that number like right now he's pretty like a lot of people
• 23:38
  are projecting Drake Drake made it go number one and that wasn't even a thought seven weeks
• 23:42
  into the college no it wasn't no it wasn't so that could be a whole nother conversation
• 23:46
  yeah yeah yeah yeah but so Caleb Williams is definitely he's gonna he'll be a one or
• 23:51
  three pick one through three pick depends on if that second team who it ends up being
• 23:55
  because right now it's Patriots so yeah right now it's Bears Patriots so you might very
• 24:00
  well see those two quarterbacks off the board but nonetheless let's switch gears here let's
• 24:04
  get back into the NFL the week 14 slate we have Buffalo and Kansas City which all joking
• 24:10
  aside did actually end up being the game of the week that was it was one hell of a game
• 24:14
  from start to finish Buffalo ended up squeaking this one out winning 20 to 17 with Smelty
• 24:20
  taking the Buffalo to cover that one and a half points I took the Chiefs to cover that
• 24:25
  one and a half and they did not because they lost but what a great game from kind of start
• 24:29
  to finish in this one it's a classic Bill's Chiefs game you know well classic as of like
• 24:34
  these past few years for sure I forgot to say that at the end of the night but like
• 24:37
  and everybody already knows that anyway I'm just slapping it in there but like nah no
• 24:43
  doubt I mean great game back and forth all game but it wouldn't be a Chiefs game without
• 24:47
  some sort of controversy of course but yeah true truly a hard-fought game both sides both
• 24:55
  quarterbacks damn near the same shit I mean both thrown over to I'm sorry Josh Allen did
• 25:04
  not throw over to 52 33 but both a Todd both a pick both use their legs I guess Pat Mahomes
• 25:11
  only ran at once but you know typical shit from both teams truly yeah it really was and
• 25:16
  to be honest with you the quarterback play wasn't great it's not what you're supposed
• 25:19
  to that's what I mean like it wasn't it wasn't quarterback versus quarterback really no I
• 25:23
  really wasn't and I mean the the story of this game obviously comes at the end well
• 25:28
  we'll obviously we will touch on that but I think what came at the end of that game
• 25:31
  overshadows the actual greatness of these two teams rivalry they've kind of built for
• 25:35
  over the course of the last years and where the hell did James could come from this guy
• 25:39
  he went he had himself a day 58 yards rushing on 10 carries you know he's averaging over
• 25:44
  five and a half there and then he had 83 yards on five receptions with that 21 yards 27 yard
• 25:49
  touchdown that was a thing of beauty that's it that surprised the hell out of me that
• 25:53
  the Chiefs didn't like have that focal point well I guess that doesn't surprise me that
• 25:57
  he wasn't the focal point don't get me wrong he's just kind of started finally like obviously
• 26:03
  everybody's known who he is because of whose brother is too so they think he might have
• 26:07
  the same ability but he's kind of just finally started emerging more and showing us way more
• 26:13
  these past few weeks and yeah he did it again I mean his ability to turn that speed on and
• 26:17
  off is insane yeah it is and he's so so shifty he's a lot shifter than Delvin Delvin's not
• 26:24
  a power back by any way shape or form but he has a bigger stature to him he's more that
• 26:28
  he's not a downhill runner but he's more of a downhill runner than James yeah you know
• 26:33
  and then I don't know I think James Cook is he's exciting to watch just because you never
• 26:37
  know what you're gonna get you might get 10 carries for 32 yards you might get 10 carries
• 26:42
  for 80 and he's gonna pop off for one big explosive just fun play to watch but let's
• 26:47
  get to it Smelty the story of this game came at the last well not the not the last play
• 26:52
  of the game but the last Chiefs play of the game well it didn't end up being the last
• 26:56
  Chiefs play of the game but we all know what the what the f you're talking about one of
• 26:59
  the greatest coolest plays you'll ever see brought back by an offensive offsides by Kaderius
• 27:06
  Tony and ah that was pretty good yeah but uh I mean to be honest it's it's the right
• 27:19
  call first off it's a hundred percent the right call to call that back because he was
• 27:24
  offsides it's not that he was offsides mostly he was egregiously offsides he was off sides
• 27:31
  and any of these Chiefs fan like some of the stuff I've seen since the game like on social
• 27:37
  media and stuff it's just ridiculous like you guys know the rules man you know the rules
• 27:42
  and so the issue is too is that like some of them are like oh well you know Tony did
• 27:47
  actually check with the ref no he didn't no he looked at him he looked at him I did see
• 27:52
  him look at him but it was literally like half second like boom done no receivers are
• 27:57
  actually checking with the ref when they do that they are well they see if they're on
• 28:01
  the line but the ref will you know go like this or whatever like down the back up or
• 28:05
  whatever but he's not going to yell across the field that you'd be like hey you're offsides
• 28:09
  bro that's not going to happen you've been playing he also did it early he did it he
• 28:13
  did it before his line was even set right yeah before the center even touched the ball
• 28:18
  which is going to move the ball slightly anyway before his center even touched the ball he
• 28:22
  looked over at the ref for not even a half second and looked back you've been playing
• 28:26
  football almost your whole life and that's what you're going to decide like it's on Tony
• 28:32
  no it 100% is and do I do I agree with the call yes do I agree that it was a penalty
• 28:38
  yes do I agree with making that call at that point in the game no you got to let that play
• 28:44
  but when it's not obvious though no I get it I get it and then people talk about the
• 28:48
  Von Miller play what a play before that or right after it was right after it but the
• 28:53
  problem with it is the picture that people keep using the still of Von Miller well that
• 28:58
  effing cameras behind the line of scrimmage not down the line of scrimmage people first
• 29:02
  off second off as soon as what's their centers name is that Creed Humphrey yeah yeah as soon
• 29:07
  as Creed's hand moves Von's going guess what he's a Hall of Famer he's got it he's got
• 29:12
  snap timed up that's not offsides to me no I have no dog in this fight the thing about
• 29:17
  it smells is they use the same kid the camera didn't move from the Tony play to the Miller
• 29:22
  play and they went back five yards so you're right they were behind so it's it's like you
• 29:28
  you can't bring that up the other thing is like and I've seen it now too that Tony was
• 29:32
  doing it throughout the game was it as a religious no was he warned no but when you look at the
• 29:38
  amount of calls that of offensive offsides that were called last year versus this year
• 29:42
  it's three last year versus eleven this year the majority of those offensive offsides are
• 29:47
  the right or left tackle lining up too far back on the ball aka Jawan Taylor has been
• 29:51
  known to do it this whole year really which would technically be a legal formation it's
• 29:57
  still you're right Jawan Taylor has been doing it all year it's still offsides though it's
• 30:00
  not considered legal formation so it's so counts towards that 11 so you know it's not
• 30:04
  often a receiver anything split from the line lines up off sides it's a high school penalty
• 30:12
  it is what that is you don't get called for that at this level so I was listening to the
• 30:17
  McCann Pat McAfee show yesterday and and they had Ryan Clark on it and you know he's NFL
• 30:23
  vet he played in the league for a long time and he's like the first thing they teach you
• 30:26
  in football is alignment then assignment and then I forget the third thing he said but
• 30:31
  the first thing they teach you when you get to the NFL is before you even know if you're
• 30:36
  a receiver to run a fucking route is alignment where you line up on the line and it's like
• 30:43
  and it just the fact that it's Tony and he's cost the Chiefs so much this year so much
• 30:49
  this year with drops which is bonehead plays and we're gonna get into the reaction to it
• 30:55
  all here later but it just sucks that that overshadowed the game because it was such
• 31:01
  a good game.
• 31:02
  It was truly a good game the defenses really showed up well too that game I mean it was
• 31:07
  it had a playoff feel to it.
• 31:10
  As they always were with those two teams.
• 31:13
  No doubt and you I mean I can't even say it I was gonna say that Josh Allen played a little
• 31:19
  better than his normal playoff self but he really didn't he played like shit and so did
• 31:22
  Patrick Ball.
• 31:23
  Yeah it's like it was like a nine straight game with a turnover or something like that.
• 31:27
  But again it's like every every snap mattered that game that's that's I guess what I'm getting
• 31:31
  at like as far as like that playoff feel every single snap mattered.
• 31:35
  100% 100% and it was yeah yeah well we're gonna get into this game a little bit more
• 31:42
  a little bit later on here in the pod so let's let's move gears again here we'll talk about
• 31:46
  the Colts taking on the Bengals traveling to Cincinnati.
• 31:49
  Cincinnati was actually a one and a half point underdog in this game.
• 31:52
  I picked the Colts to cover that one and a half points and you picked the Cincinnati
• 31:56
  to well either win or again cover that one and a half points and you were very right
• 32:02
  on this one brother.
• 32:03
  The Colts did not show up Colts ended up losing 14 to 34.
• 32:07
  The story of this game though is he continues to shine Smelty Mr. Jake Brawrow.
• 32:14
  Jake that was nice that was nice.
• 32:18
  You're gonna catch me off guard with every game I think at this point but yeah dude Jake
• 32:23
  looked I don't know he looked outstanding and I think and I think if you're the Bengals
• 32:32
  you're feeling actually kind of confident at a potential playoff run at this point.
• 32:36
  He's doing enough to win games.
• 32:38
  He just beat another team this weekend that is in the AFC playoff picture for a wild card
• 32:45
  in that race so he's doing enough and he's got a Vikings team this week that's abysmal
• 32:50
  on offense right now.
• 32:52
  The Bengals the Bengals could make a run.
• 32:55
  They really could I mean the AFC North is kind of trickling outside of the Steelers
• 32:58
  is sorry not the Steelers but the Ravens as well so I don't know I've been just mad impressed
• 33:03
  with this cat man.
• 33:05
  He's never really been given the opportunity in the NFL and now that he has it he's just
• 33:09
  taken off with it and how about Chase Brown dude.
• 33:12
  How about Chase Brown?
• 33:15
  So and that's the thing about Chase Brown so do you watch college football?
• 33:19
  Yeah I can't say I'm a devoted fan.
• 33:21
  Hit or miss?
• 33:22
  What do you watch like if it's on like an Alabama or an SEC score?
• 33:26
  If it is I'll probably watch the Badgers.
• 33:28
  Oh duh yeah the Badgers duh duh.
• 33:31
  Okay so Chase Brown out of Illinois he's been he's been running up and down the Big Ten
• 33:36
  the past number of years and it was between him and honestly Mo Ibrahim for the Gophers.
• 33:42
  I can't lie Mo was a beast but anyway shout out.
• 33:45
  Also probably out of the league already this year but um but Chase Brown dude yeah dude
• 33:49
  he's a beast he's fast.
• 33:51
  As soon as he he's a he's a guy that you just want to get the ball in his hands whether
• 33:54
  it's over in the air or you're handing it off pitching it doesn't matter you just want
• 33:58
  him to get the want to get the ball in his hands because he can make guys miss and he's
• 34:02
  not even it's not even his he's got a good juke ability but it's not even just that it's
• 34:07
  just his ability to start and stop again just so quickly.
• 34:11
  He's shifty.
• 34:12
  Yeah and I know we use that word a lot but but what else you can say it's a fact.
• 34:18
  Yeah he's he's really really like it like I don't want to use it again but he's super
• 34:22
  elusive so just with the with the way that agile send him in send the names coming in
• 34:29
  start pulling out a dictionary.
• 34:32
  But it was also this this Colts offense just couldn't get going man like Michael Pittman
• 34:37
  had himself a good game but it was the the running game Zach Moss has actually been pretty
• 34:42
  damn good in in relief of Taylor and he just could not get going.
• 34:47
  Zach Zach really only had like two good rushes that game yeah and that was it.
• 34:53
  Damn Trey Sermon I wasn't even sure if he was still in the league to be honest with
• 34:57
  you so he got three carries for only 13 yards but yeah no Zach Moss just he didn't have
• 35:02
  it going this week at all.
• 35:04
  I mean that that 12 yard run was about all he had.
• 35:08
  I think he had like getting one other like kind of bigger run but that was I mean not
• 35:12
  more than 12 obviously.
• 35:14
  Right and the Colts need a balanced offense because Gardner's not going to go and win
• 35:18
  you games.
• 35:19
  He's going to play good enough where he's probably not going to lose you the game but
• 35:23
  they need some sort of balance ability.
• 35:25
  Even just having 18 rushes now granted why would you run more than that when you're averaging
• 35:29
  2.6 yards a carry and you're down so much throughout the game but.
• 35:34
  Well and that's just it after that third quarter now now that whole fourth quarter you're throwing
• 35:38
  the ball yeah you know yeah trying to just play catch up at that point.
• 35:42
  But it was yeah another great game for Pittman and like it's good to see him becoming more
• 35:46
  consistent because right when he came into the league high expectations kind of didn't
• 35:50
  do a whole lot but now he's starting to get a little more consistent with it and I think
• 35:55
  that's a really good sign for Colts fans.
• 35:57
  Adding Devante Adams to that.
• 35:59
  That'd be wild but I think Pittman's biggest issue is just inconsistent quarterback play.
• 36:04
  You know he hasn't had a quarterback for longer than two years since he's been in the league.
• 36:09
  Well and hopefully now that Anthony Richardson is kind of starting to learn hopefully he
• 36:14
  learns this offseason how to protect his body a little bit more.
• 36:18
  He's got to take some notes from Tua.
• 36:19
  Yeah he needs to take them jujitsu classes or judo whatever it was.
• 36:23
  How many games has Tua played this year.
• 36:24
  You know what I mean.
• 36:25
  So like it's obviously helping him and there's some video I saw not to go on a tangent about
• 36:30
  Tua but there's some video I saw earlier this season like of him like getting pushed back
• 36:35
  after the play you know probably a QB hit I'm sure but he like somersaults backwards
• 36:40
  to get out of it instead of slamming on the ground.
• 36:42
  Boom somersaults backwards or some crazy shit gets right up he's fine.
• 36:46
  Yeah he did like a back roll.
• 36:48
  Yeah and it's a I was really excited for Anthony Richardson coming into this year.
• 36:54
  I really thought that in my opinion he was going to be the best quarterback out of this
• 36:58
  class now CJ Stroud.
• 37:00
  It would take a lot for Richardson to kind of surpass what Stroud's doing.
• 37:02
  But knowing what you knew then which was nothing right.
• 37:06
  We had only their college shit to look at really.
• 37:09
  So I would have gave that to you with how much his draft stock rose right before the
• 37:14
  draft with because of how good of an athlete he is.
• 37:18
  Like he was is he a better athlete than Lamar Jackson you think.
• 37:22
  No I don't know if I'll go to that stage yet but it was like that was the thing with Richardson
• 37:25
  is I didn't expect him to come in and be the best quarterback out of that draft class this
• 37:29
  year.
• 37:30
  He's going to be the best like he's the best in Stroud in my opinion was the best quarterback
• 37:35
  to come in and start and be consistent with the opportunity to be great.
• 37:40
  Richardson has the high ceiling right.
• 37:41
  So he has the high ceiling because he can just do so much.
• 37:44
  I haven't really been I wasn't really big on Bryce Young coming out and I mean he's
• 37:47
  been put in a terrible position to succeed so I'm not going to blame him anything on
• 37:50
  his anything on him.
• 37:51
  I think you need two more years.
• 37:53
  You need at least three years to judge a quarterback truly.
• 37:56
  You also have a high level quarterback unless you're Jermarcus Russell or something.
• 38:02
  You got to build the team around him.
• 38:03
  You got to get him some good coaches in there and I'm I don't know how to feel about the
• 38:09
  Coats at this point though.
• 38:10
  You know the Coats are one of my their team that I do like outside of the Chargers are
• 38:14
  my favorite AFC team and it's.
• 38:17
  I think the defense is good enough they can sneak in.
• 38:20
  I do.
• 38:21
  The defense it's been so inconsistent this year though.
• 38:24
  This is an awkward time to be saying that to be honest after just getting whooped this
• 38:28
  last weekend.
• 38:29
  But like I would have said that shit before last game.
• 38:33
  You know the defense is good enough to carry you into the playoffs.
• 38:36
  You know obviously we saw some holes this week and again a red hot Jake Browning which
• 38:40
  I think he could do that same thing to the Vikings this weekend.
• 38:44
  But I don't see why he wouldn't.
• 38:45
  I just I don't know.
• 38:48
  I don't know.
• 38:49
  I I don't know.
• 38:51
  I think you still see the cold sneak in.
• 38:53
  I really do.
• 38:54
  I do.
• 38:55
  And they're like as we stand right now they are projected to be in the playoffs.
• 38:58
  At the seventh seed like today?
• 39:00
  Yeah right now they're the seventh seed.
• 39:01
  The Bengals are actually the tenth seed.
• 39:03
  But there's also.
• 39:04
  There's so much can change right there.
• 39:06
  There's six teams tied at seven and six.
• 39:08
  And that's the sixth and seventh seed is where it starts at the sixth.
• 39:12
  We're gonna have some crazy flexed games coming up.
• 39:15
  Yeah I'm interested to see if that Packers Vikings game is gonna get flexed.
• 39:18
  It depends on where they stand.
• 39:19
  I mean shit.
• 39:20
  You know I'm who knows.
• 39:23
  It could by then.
• 39:24
  Yes sir.
• 39:26
  Well that's enough about that game as a whole here.
• 39:29
  Let's move on to what we had as the game of the week.
• 39:32
  And it turned out being a ass whooping.
• 39:35
  We had the Eagles traveling down to Dallas taking on the Cowboys.
• 39:40
  Dallas was actually favored by three and a half in this game.
• 39:42
  I as you can probably tell by the trend here took the Philadelphia Eagles to cover that
• 39:47
  three and a half.
• 39:48
  Smelty took them the Cowboys to win by more than three and a half.
• 39:52
  And I went 0-4 this week on my picks.
• 39:53
  So we have told you that we will get those standings out.
• 39:56
  I think we're gonna start with next week and get you it from there.
• 40:00
  No I'm gonna go back and look at all this shit.
• 40:04
  But in all seriousness here the Eagles just they don't look anything remotely close to
• 40:10
  what their team was last year.
• 40:12
  And the Cowboys look damn good man.
• 40:14
  Dag Prescott is he's only doing everything he can to play himself into the MVP right
• 40:19
  now.
• 40:20
  Everyone in time he's my MVP.
• 40:22
  Damn really?
• 40:23
  Yeah I don't see I mean the only other person that can be in that consideration right now
• 40:29
  in my opinion is Brock Purdy.
• 40:31
  Oh for NFC or are you talking overall league?
• 40:38
  You can make an argument for Tua because my argument against Brock Purdy is the same reason
• 40:42
  I wouldn't include Tua in that.
• 40:43
  Is there no argument for Tyreek to be a beat out a quarterback this year?
• 40:46
  There's no it's just not gonna happen.
• 40:48
  No it's I mean in my opinion is Tyreek.
• 40:51
  What about Christian McCaffrey?
• 40:53
  No.
• 40:54
  So if you look at it in my opinion like so you have to define what the MVP is right it's
• 40:58
  the most valuable player.
• 41:00
  Correct.
• 41:01
  You take Tyreek off that team?
• 41:03
  They're probably okay.
• 41:04
  You take Tua off that team?
• 41:08
  I think they're more okay than if you take McCaffrey fully away from San Francisco.
• 41:12
  Ah see I would disagree just because of San Francisco.
• 41:14
  Yes you have Deebo, yes you have Kettle.
• 41:16
  And you have Elijah Mitchell who's a really good RB2.
• 41:20
  So it's just and you have Ayuka there it's and San Fran's defense is just too fucking
• 41:24
  good.
• 41:25
  Where but so if you have to define the most valuable.
• 41:27
  Could be Deck.
• 41:28
  Let's look at look at what the Eagle would happen when Purdy got hurt against the Eagles
• 41:31
  last year.
• 41:33
  Yeah they they had no they didn't do shit.
• 41:37
  They didn't do shit.
• 41:38
  When Tua got hurt last year the Dolphins sputtered.
• 41:40
  Yeah yeah I'm just sick of it being a quarterback award.
• 41:45
  It forever will be.
• 41:46
  So they need to come up with something else then.
• 41:48
  It's not a true MVP.
• 41:49
  Well that's what it is though.
• 41:51
  That's what it is.
• 41:52
  The MVP is a quarterback award.
• 41:53
  The offensive player of the year is probably the best player in the league and then the
• 41:55
  defensive player of the year.
• 41:56
  But even even offensive player of the year last year it was like at least on the NFC side
• 42:00
  Jefferson won it.
• 42:02
  But there was what?
• 42:03
  It was between Jalen Hurts, Jefferson.
• 42:06
  I thought it was another quarterback.
• 42:07
  Can't remember.
• 42:08
  I literally just read that.
• 42:10
  Fuck.
• 42:11
  But it's always like quarter even in the offensive player of the years it's always quarterbacks
• 42:15
  too.
• 42:16
  But that's where you see the chance for a receiver, running back or somebody else.
• 42:20
  And I mean at the end of the day Jalen Hurts was one of the best offensive players in the
• 42:24
  league last year.
• 42:25
  Oh he could have easily won.
• 42:26
  So you got to give that credit where it's due there too though.
• 42:29
  So it's and I mean I don't disagree with you in terms of it shouldn't be a quarterback
• 42:35
  award but if you look at if you define most valuable player who's the most valuable to
• 42:40
  their team in their franchise it is 100% going to be the quarterback.
• 42:45
  It's just disappointing.
• 42:46
  It sucks.
• 42:47
  Because there's a lot of other good players that just get overlooked.
• 42:51
  I mean it's every year though.
• 42:53
  It's not a new thing.
• 42:54
  You know the last non-quarterback to win MVP was Adrian Peterson.
• 42:58
  And what did he have to do?
• 43:00
  He almost went for 2,000 yards.
• 43:02
  He did go for 2,000 yards.
• 43:03
  He was like 8 yards away from breaking the single season record and that was coming off
• 43:08
  of a torn ACL.
• 43:09
  Like he had the story behind him.
• 43:11
  He had the year that was just incredible.
• 43:13
  Do you think he would have still won it without that story?
• 43:15
  And we'd have to go back and look at stats because I don't.
• 43:17
  I think what helped him in the vote.
• 43:19
  I would have to see who he was against, what quarterbacks did what they did.
• 43:23
  And what helped him in that regard was it was so remarkable that he did that coming
• 43:26
  off of an ACL.
• 43:27
  No 100%.
• 43:28
  And I wish they would have ran him to freaking get the record.
• 43:32
  They did bro.
• 43:33
  They played the Packers week 17 and they did everything they fuck.
• 43:35
  He went over 200 yards in week 17.
• 43:37
  They took him out the game late though.
• 43:39
  No they didn't.
• 43:40
  I swear to God they did.
• 43:41
  They decided not to run.
• 43:44
  I was rooting for them because the Vikings were winning pretty handedly so they weren't
• 43:48
  like passing.
• 43:49
  I remember because I was actually rooting for them to get it.
• 43:52
  To break it because you were there you said?
• 43:53
  No no no.
• 43:54
  I wasn't there but it was like you don't see this.
• 43:56
  When is the...
• 43:57
  We're never going to see somebody break that record.
• 43:58
  Yeah I want to see greatness dude.
• 43:59
  Between Peterson and Chris Johnson that was the closest we got.
• 44:03
  Chris Johnson was so fun to watch.
• 44:06
  But that's for another time.
• 44:07
  Back to the game.
• 44:08
  We're going on a tangent.
• 44:09
  What do you make of this man?
• 44:11
  The Cowboys, they're the second best team in the NFC in my opinion and the Eagles they
• 44:16
  look similar to kind of what the Lions are doing right now.
• 44:19
  Now I'd still say the Eagles are better than the Lions.
• 44:21
  They are.
• 44:22
  I would take the Eagles and the Eagles versus Lions matchup but that's exactly what's going
• 44:25
  on.
• 44:26
  They are kind of acting like the Lions.
• 44:27
  Came out strong and now what?
• 44:29
  Eagles have lost two straight?
• 44:31
  And kind of what we've been looking for all game.
• 44:34
  It's not that they just lost two straight.
• 44:35
  They got their ass whooped two weeks in a row.
• 44:39
  That defense.
• 44:40
  What we've been saying, we need to see something from that defense.
• 44:43
  They can't pressure the quarterback.
• 44:44
  And they're not showing it.
• 44:46
  What's the issue?
• 44:47
  Are they too young?
• 44:48
  Are they just not?
• 44:49
  It's the same defense as last year for the most part.
• 44:52
  They lost Javon Hargrave.
• 44:53
  He went to San Fran but they gained Jalen Carter.
• 44:58
  He's the defense of rookie of the year right now.
• 45:01
  And they cannot get pressure on the quarterback.
• 45:04
  They broke the record for sacks last year.
• 45:06
  Compared to the other side of the ball for Dallas where Micah Parsons was in Jalen Hurts
• 45:11
  face all game.
• 45:14
  All game Micah Parsons was in Jalen Hurts face.
• 45:17
  And the Eagles just could not replicate that.
• 45:19
  They could not.
• 45:20
  Like you're right.
• 45:21
  You're right.
• 45:22
  They couldn't pressure Dak.
• 45:23
  They got three sacks.
• 45:25
  But when they weren't sacking them, he had all day to throw the ball.
• 45:29
  All freaking day.
• 45:30
  And you're going to give Dak Prescott all day to throw the ball.
• 45:31
  He's going to find somebody.
• 45:33
  One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight different receivers for Dallas.
• 45:39
  Compared to look at Philly.
• 45:42
  Jalen was only able to find four different guys.
• 45:43
  Now they're pretty much his main guys right there.
• 45:46
  But dude, that's it.
• 45:48
  That's insane.
• 45:49
  He wasn't able to spread the ball around at all because Micah Parsons was in his face.
• 45:53
  Jalen found three different guys.
• 45:55
  They had a fake punt.
• 45:56
  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:57
  Yeah, yeah.
• 45:58
  Three different guys.
• 46:00
  That's wild.
• 46:01
  And it might mean granted.
• 46:02
  He's three main guys again.
• 46:03
  But yeah, and it's on it's on 18 targets.
• 46:06
  It's not like they really like tried to come out and really throw the ball.
• 46:08
  But what that tells me is he couldn't spread the ball around.
• 46:11
  He was on his one or two guy, one or number one or number two receiver for that play every
• 46:16
  play before he either had to dip out or get rid of it or something.
• 46:21
  Yeah, it was it was it's interesting because it was he was so fun to watch last year, dude.
• 46:26
  It was so fun to watch.
• 46:27
  He had the passing ability.
• 46:29
  He was making plays on the ground.
• 46:31
  And it's just this year he just looks like kind of like a shell of who he was last year.
• 46:34
  You think he's playing injured because I know there's something that came out earlier in
• 46:37
  the season, right?
• 46:38
  And we were like, he is injured.
• 46:40
  You know, 14.
• 46:41
  Right, right.
• 46:42
  But I don't know.
• 46:43
  I'm just saying I don't think you'll ever find out if he is because that's who he is.
• 46:47
  And I respect the shit out of that out of him.
• 46:49
  I really do respect that.
• 46:50
  And we're out here talking like the Eagles like it's just been terrible.
• 46:53
  They've lost what I think they only lost one regular season game last year.
• 46:56
  Right.
• 46:57
  Two years as a starter.
• 46:58
  He's lost four games.
• 46:59
  Yeah.
• 47:00
  They're still the number.
• 47:01
  They're still leading the air.
• 47:03
  They're not leading their division currently, but they have they have they should not anymore.
• 47:07
  Not anymore.
• 47:08
  That was the big that you needed to win that game.
• 47:10
  They didn't know because they have like themselves.
• 47:13
  They have the easiest schedule going the rest of the year and the Cowboys have like the
• 47:16
  third hardest.
• 47:17
  Doesn't fucking matter for themselves.
• 47:19
  They needed to beat Dallas, a good team.
• 47:21
  They split the series.
• 47:25
  When did they play them before?
• 47:26
  Oh, that I don't know.
• 47:28
  Few weeks ago.
• 47:29
  Right.
• 47:30
  I thought it was recently, though, like within a month.
• 47:32
  It wasn't too long ago.
• 47:33
  I remember that.
• 47:34
  But like you can't you can't sputter to a division rival this late in the season, though.
• 47:39
  No, no, we're having the defensive issues that you're having two weeks in a row this
• 47:43
  late in the season.
• 47:44
  You have to learn how to get pressure.
• 47:46
  I don't even hold on here.
• 47:47
  Who does Philly even play?
• 47:49
  They got at Seattle next week and then home against the Giants, home against the cards
• 47:56
  and then away against the Giants.
• 47:57
  So they got some weeks to repair themselves.
• 48:02
  But they just can't look like that, man.
• 48:05
  Yeah.
• 48:06
  And then if you look at the Cowboys, well, they got the Bills, Dolphins, Lions commanders.
• 48:10
  Ouch.
• 48:11
  OK.
• 48:12
  They'd be lucky to come out of that two and two.
• 48:14
  What if they do, though?
• 48:15
  What if they do?
• 48:16
  So I mean, they got to do it.
• 48:18
  They're going to have two losses to the Eagles, likely none.
• 48:20
  So they're tied right now.
• 48:21
  So Eagles will still have a two game advantage if the Eagles win the rest of their four.
• 48:24
  Let's go three and one.
• 48:25
  And they still have a buy game.
• 48:27
  So let's say Dallas goes two and two, then they would go to and to the Cowboys go to
• 48:31
  and to the Cowboys have the breaker.
• 48:34
  If they go to and I guess it depends because right now it goes into like we have to look
• 48:37
  at the divisional records and then go.
• 48:39
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:40
  I'm talking about like just pure momentum, pure momentum.
• 48:44
  If the Cowboys go to and to then they went seven and two in their last nine to end their
• 48:49
  season.
• 48:50
  Yeah, yeah, there's easy opponents.
• 48:52
  They're the Giants, the Panthers, you know.
• 48:54
  But they also play the Eagles twice, but that's not nine and two.
• 49:00
  Or I'm sorry, seven and two in your last nine to end the season.
• 49:05
  You got to be feeling pretty good about yourself and a chance at home field advantage potentially.
• 49:10
  But I now do I see them beating both the Bills, Dolphins and Lions like those those three
• 49:17
  games.
• 49:19
  It's going to be tough to come out of that with two wins.
• 49:22
  It is.
• 49:23
  It is.
• 49:24
  And then Buffalo, that's always a tough place to play.
• 49:26
  Especially with the way that they're playing.
• 49:27
  Playing Miami wherever you are is tough.
• 49:31
  And then the Lions, who knows by then, you know, that's a few weeks out.
• 49:35
  The Lions are kind of getting week to week all of a sudden.
• 49:39
  They don't look good, man.
• 49:40
  Well, I think that's all we have for week 14.
• 49:43
  9-1-1, what's your emergency?
• 49:51
  Let's get into some tent talk, sir.
• 49:54
  Let's start off with some injuries.
• 49:56
  Your boy, Justin Jefferson, long awaited come back from the injury.
• 50:00
  Didn't last too long, man.
• 50:01
  What's going on with him?
• 50:02
  Yeah, I mean, obviously, everybody was super excited to get JJ back, yours truly included.
• 50:09
  And then, yeah, he didn't last very long.
• 50:11
  It doesn't help that Dobbs was staring him down the whole time he was actually in the
• 50:14
  game.
• 50:15
  But he took a shot to the back, which ended up somehow injuring his chest to the point
• 50:20
  where he left the game and the stadium and ended up going to the hospital.
• 50:25
  Turns out everything is OK, I guess.
• 50:28
  So he just traveled back with the team.
• 50:30
  And so apparently they're expecting him to most likely play this Saturday, but it's still
• 50:35
  more of like a day to day situation.
• 50:37
  Yeah, I thought it was going to be a lot worse than what it ended up being with, you know,
• 50:41
  him going to the hospital and whatnot.
• 50:43
  Maybe it was just precautionary because it was chest.
• 50:44
  It had to have been because he walked off the field on his own accord.
• 50:48
  He looked he was walking fine.
• 50:49
  Yeah, he didn't look like he was in like a lot of pain.
• 50:52
  He wasn't like laboring like TJ Hawkinson every catch.
• 50:57
  That's hilarious.
• 50:58
  No offense to TJ, but poor guy.
• 51:00
  Yeah, I want to see him back.
• 51:01
  You know, I like what he brings to the NFL.
• 51:02
  I like what he brings to the Vikings offense.
• 51:05
  So I hope he plays this week, man.
• 51:06
  And they need him.
• 51:07
  They sure do.
• 51:08
  All right, let's go to the AFC West.
• 51:11
  Justin Herbert, he fractured his right index finger, came out today that he does indeed
• 51:17
  need surgery.
• 51:18
  He's done for the year, man.
• 51:20
  Yeah, I mean, it's not the I mean, it's a big loss to the Chargers for sure, but it's
• 51:24
  not a big loss for the season.
• 51:26
  The season's already lost for the Chargers, to be quite honest.
• 51:29
  So it'll be a good chance to see what Easton Stick has.
• 51:32
  I think he's the starter going forward.
• 51:33
  So I'm not expecting much from him.
• 51:37
  Yeah.
• 51:38
  And the Chargers are they're not make they're not doing anything this year.
• 51:40
  They're basically out of the play.
• 51:41
  They need to fire their coach.
• 51:42
  Well, that's that's a whole nother podcast we could have about that.
• 51:45
  But let's switch focus then to another AFC team here.
• 51:49
  The Cleveland Browns lost to Juan Jones having knee surgery he's done for the year.
• 51:55
  Yeah, I mean, that's I mean, for the Browns, you already can't keep losing people.
• 52:00
  And it seems like they have people dropping every week.
• 52:03
  And now you're going to lose your rookie right tackle.
• 52:06
  I'm sorry, I don't think he's right.
• 52:07
  Could be left.
• 52:08
  I can't remember.
• 52:09
  But you're one of your rookie tackles for the season.
• 52:11
  He's been playing well.
• 52:12
  He's actually the highest graded pass blocker among among rookies is much lower on the run
• 52:18
  blocking department.
• 52:19
  But I think that's easily more easily learned I would imagine than pass blocking when you
• 52:25
  got to deal with stepping back and dealing with, say, a Nick Bosa or something, you know
• 52:32
  what I mean?
• 52:33
  So I think run blocking, he'll be able to figure it out.
• 52:36
  But either way, big loss to the Cleveland Cleveland offense, especially for a team with
• 52:41
  footless Joe Flacco back there.
• 52:43
  I mean, they're eight and five.
• 52:45
  They're the fifth seed right now.
• 52:46
  They're they're in control.
• 52:47
  They're over there for the playoffs.
• 52:48
  So that is a big loss.
• 52:50
  A bigger loss.
• 52:52
  He's still in Kirkush concussion protocol.
• 52:54
  He hit his head pretty hard on the turf.
• 52:56
  CJ Stroud, a guy that we've been raving pretty much nonstop this year.
• 53:01
  That sucks.
• 53:02
  And I mean, obviously, we don't need to talk about it too much how much they need him in
• 53:07
  their lineup for them to have an opportunity to win on Sundays right now.
• 53:11
  Yeah, he means everything to that team right now.
• 53:13
  He's the heart and soul as a rookie.
• 53:14
  He's the leader.
• 53:15
  Another team on the outs.
• 53:16
  Are they on the outside looking in right now?
• 53:18
  I think they're part of that 16 tie or whatever.
• 53:22
  So they got a man.
• 53:24
  They just need him to play.
• 53:25
  They do have a chance at the playoffs.
• 53:27
  Concussion protocol.
• 53:28
  So, you know, he should be back this year.
• 53:29
  Hopefully he is.
• 53:30
  He might even play this week.
• 53:31
  You can pass that within a day.
• 53:33
  Then we go over a lot of AFC this week.
• 53:35
  A lot of AFC this week.
• 53:36
  We have the star edge rushers for the Steelers.
• 53:39
  They mean more to that team than anybody.
• 53:41
  You can make an argument that the T.J.
• 53:43
  Watt is the MVP of that team.
• 53:44
  Oh, he is.
• 53:45
  No, he is.
• 53:46
  But I mean, what he's been able to do with Alex Highsmith being those constant pressures,
• 53:51
  both of those fellows in concussion protocol.
• 53:53
  Big loss to the Steelers.
• 53:54
  No doubt.
• 53:55
  And when you're already without Kenny Pickett on the other side of the ball, you need as
• 53:58
  much help as possible on the defensive side of the ball.
• 54:02
  And without these two guys, I mean, they're the heart and soul of whatever defense exists
• 54:09
  there right now.
• 54:10
  But they're the heart and soul of it.
• 54:11
  They lead that defense and they need them on the field.
• 54:14
  And they're two of the best edge rushers in the league.
• 54:16
  So that's a huge loss.
• 54:18
  Well, that's all we have for injuries.
• 54:20
  Not a whole lot of news this week.
• 54:22
  You know, it's pretty low week there.
• 54:23
  It's basically just injuries.
• 54:25
  But as always, we do have to touch on our Roger's watch.
• 54:28
  He is expected to be cleared for their Christmas Eve game.
• 54:32
  He will start for the Jets if they are not eliminated from the playoffs.
• 54:35
  I think right now, the last I saw, they were like 11 percent.
• 54:38
  Zach Wilson looks real damn good this last week.
• 54:40
  He played well.
• 54:41
  Yeah.
• 54:42
  But if they are eliminated, he might still be the emergency quarterback that suits up
• 54:46
  if, you know, the first two guys get hurt, which, you know, makes sense.
• 54:49
  You don't want to put him out there if you don't need to.
• 54:51
  But the fact that this guy might step foot on a football team in uniform after tearing
• 54:55
  his ACL in week one is just mind boggling.
• 54:57
  Third emergency quarterback.
• 54:58
  So who's backing up Zach Wilson then?
• 55:00
  Do you know?
• 55:01
  I don't know, because they cut Tim Boyle.
• 55:02
  Right.
• 55:03
  Yeah, I don't even know.
• 55:04
  But yeah, I mean, it is it is crazy to think that he's even expecting to have a chance
• 55:09
  to step on the field, like you said.
• 55:11
  I again, I don't think they will.
• 55:14
  They will be in playoff contention.
• 55:16
  So therefore, I do not think we'll see Aaron Rodgers playing on the field again this season.
• 55:22
  But but we'll just, you know, another another I know I say it all the frickin time.
• 55:26
  But another thing we just got to kind of see what happened.
• 55:28
  You know, we can speculate all we want.
• 55:30
  Until we get to that point, that we get to Christmas Eve and know if the Jets are still
• 55:35
  looking at a spot or not, then we won't know if we'll see Rodgers.
• 55:39
  He's a mysterious being.
• 55:41
  I really hope we do.
• 55:42
  To answer your question, it's Trevor Simeon and Brett Rippon.
• 55:46
  So I believe Brett Rippon is right now is the emergency quarterback.
• 55:49
  Yeah, it would definitely be Simeon.
• 55:51
  Brett is not.
• 55:52
  He ain't it.
• 55:53
  Yes.
• 55:54
  Well, it's going to be interesting.
• 55:55
  I hate to rip on him, but it's going to be interesting to see if Zach Wilson can kind
• 56:00
  of keep that momentum from last game going.
• 56:03
  And they're five and eight right now.
• 56:04
  So, you know, they're not out of their two games back from that 16 tie.
• 56:08
  Let's see who they have for the rest of the year.
• 56:10
  I was just about to pull it up to I was like, I want to get the Jets to play the Dolphins
• 56:15
  next week.
• 56:16
  The commanders, Browns, Patriots.
• 56:18
  That's two.
• 56:19
  Yeah, that gets you eight and nine.
• 56:21
  I don't think that's doing it.
• 56:22
  If they could squeak out a win against the Dolphins or Browns and even finish three and
• 56:25
  one for that team to finish nine and eight after losing Rodgers for week one, there would
• 56:29
  be pretty freaking cool.
• 56:31
  Impressive.
• 56:32
  But I.
• 56:33
  Dolphins, no Browns, maybe not.
• 56:40
  I don't know.
• 56:41
  I don't see.
• 56:42
  With the way Joe Flacco is playing.
• 56:43
  Yeah.
• 56:44
  Yeah, no doubt.
• 56:45
  I don't see it.
• 56:46
  But you know, all the best for the guy.
• 56:47
  I hope to see him this season.
• 56:48
  I really do.
• 56:49
  But I don't think we will.
• 56:50
  Yeah, I'm with you.
• 56:51
  I'm with you.
• 56:52
  I hope we do.
• 56:53
  But it's going to be an exciting next year.
• 56:56
  Well, that leads us to my favorite segment, sir.
• 57:00
  Your bonehead move of the week.
• 57:02
  Yes.
• 57:03
  Well, welcome back to bonehead move of the week.
• 57:09
  This week, I'm sure most of you that have already listened to some of our episodes can
• 57:12
  probably gather where we're going to go with this one.
• 57:16
  Patrick Mahomes, man.
• 57:17
  One of the most humble players, honestly, in the NFL that you'll find truly every every
• 57:25
  time they've lost in the past, you know, he always puts it on himself rather than the
• 57:30
  team.
• 57:32
  And you know, just wears his heart on a sleeve, you know, really, really takes ownership of
• 57:38
  the success and fall of the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 57:42
  Well, this weekend, you didn't really see that with that frustrating call at the end
• 57:48
  of the game.
• 57:49
  Mahomes, you know, usually at the end of the game, it's a big deal, right?
• 57:53
  The cameras follow and everything and you see the quarterbacks go up and can, you know,
• 57:58
  say what's up to each other, you know, a respect thing.
• 58:01
  And Mahomes walked up to Josh Allen and said some wild things that I'm going to quote here
• 58:08
  that will be explicit.
• 58:09
  So if you want to be mad at somebody for cussing, you can be mad at Patrick Mahomes.
• 58:15
  As he met Allen on the field, Mahomes said, quote, wildest fucking call I've ever seen
• 58:20
  offensive offsides in that moment.
• 58:22
  Man, fucking terrible, end quote, and then walks away from Josh Allen and Josh Allen
• 58:28
  is kind of funny.
• 58:29
  Josh Allen is kind of stand there like, okay, which is wild because Josh Allen, how many
• 58:35
  times Josh Allen been on the other side of that handshake with Patrick Mahomes?
• 58:39
  You know, you would think he'd have at least a little bit more respect for Josh Allen as
• 58:43
  a as a fellow quarterback or whatever, you know.
• 58:47
  But what do you make of what is now becoming the Patrick Mahomes meltdown?
• 58:54
  It's very uncharacteristic of him.
• 58:56
  Right.
• 58:57
  And as you mentioned, he's one of the most humble guys who'll always take credit.
• 59:01
  And I think it's to the boiling point of the chief's offense this week.
• 59:05
  Sorry, this year.
• 59:06
  And after the call last week against the Packers to end it, you know, it's at some point like
• 59:12
  the guy's fucking human.
• 59:14
  For sure.
• 59:17
  Was it uncalled for?
• 59:19
  Yes.
• 59:20
  At the end of the day, you should be able to control your emotions.
• 59:22
  But it was such a spectacular play and such a good play by Travis Kelsey that will probably
• 59:28
  not be remembered when it's all said and done.
• 59:31
  Which sucks.
• 59:32
  Probably the top play of the year.
• 59:34
  Yeah, I said it had been a candidate.
• 59:36
  Yeah, I can't think of something off the top of my head.
• 59:39
  But there's a pass from Kelsey was perfect.
• 59:41
  It was a perfect spiral.
• 59:42
  He hit it and Tony caught it as he's getting decked and Tony actually caught it.
• 59:46
  Yeah.
• 59:47
  Right.
• 59:48
  No, but but yeah, so it's just and he's come out and apologize.
• 59:55
  He says, you know, you should never speak to an official, let alone any real.
• 59:58
  He shouldn't speak to any humans like that.
• 1:00:00
  So good on him to do that, as you kind of expect him to do.
• 1:00:02
  I just really thought he was caught up in the emotions.
• 1:00:05
  And the whole thing with Josh Allen is, you know, the clip that we see, it kind of starts
• 1:00:09
  really kind of with him saying that.
• 1:00:10
  So I'm hoping with just who Patrick Mahomes has kind of shown these was like as they were
• 1:00:15
  walking up, he might have said something like, hey, great game.
• 1:00:18
  But then led to this.
• 1:00:19
  I'd imagine so.
• 1:00:20
  I was.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah, that clip you already see them pretty much embraced.
• 1:00:23
  Exactly.
• 1:00:24
  And then walking away from each other.
• 1:00:25
  Exactly.
• 1:00:26
  So you never know because the media is going to try to clip it, make it for what it is.
• 1:00:30
  No doubt.
• 1:00:31
  And you know, I mean, like I said, it's is it uncalled for?
• 1:00:35
  Should he have done it?
• 1:00:36
  No, but I really can't blame the I'm personally I'm not mad at it.
• 1:00:40
  Like I love seeing the passion and everything that this game means to him.
• 1:00:45
  So I it is what it is.
• 1:00:47
  And this is what he said.
• 1:00:48
  So that last quote I got was from People magazine.
• 1:00:52
  Of course, I'm sure Mahomes does seem like the type that would probably interview people.
• 1:00:56
  I don't know why.
• 1:00:57
  I'm just saying like I'm no hate, just whatever.
• 1:00:59
  Anyway, Mahomes also says, quote, But more than anything, I regret that he said this
• 1:01:03
  today.
• 1:01:04
  I regret the way I acted towards Josh after the game because he had nothing to do with
• 1:01:08
  it.
• 1:01:09
  You're not an emotional, but you can't do that, man.
• 1:01:11
  It's not a great example for kids watching the game.
• 1:01:13
  So I was more upset about that than me on me on the sidelines.
• 1:01:17
  And then blah, blah, blah, blah goes on to say, I care, man.
• 1:01:20
  I love it.
• 1:01:21
  I love this game.
• 1:01:22
  All of my teammates, I want to go out there and put everything on the line to win.
• 1:01:25
  But obviously can't do that.
• 1:01:26
  Can't be that way towards officials or really anybody in life.
• 1:01:30
  So he did.
• 1:01:31
  He does come out obviously today and say all that, which is more of the Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:01:35
  Not only does he have to, obviously, but that's more of like you can say that's scripted.
• 1:01:41
  You can say whatever.
• 1:01:42
  But like that's who he's shown his character to be his whole NFL career to this point.
• 1:01:46
  No, absolutely.
• 1:01:47
  And I mean, I don't think it was necessarily scripted by any means.
• 1:01:49
  And it's just it is who he's shown to be like, yeah, you're going to have to come out and
• 1:01:53
  say something.
• 1:01:54
  But I mean, I'm from the whole kids perspective, like, yeah, I get it.
• 1:01:58
  But that's only because of the day and age we live in.
• 1:02:00
  I look at it as a father and like I got a kid that's playing sports and like sees that.
• 1:02:06
  Like I'm going to I'm going to show that is like that's how passionate this guy is about
• 1:02:09
  the game he loves and he truly embraces every aspect of it.
• 1:02:12
  So I I personally can't.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah, I mean, there's kids out there like, I don't know, man.
• 1:02:17
  It's like, is a kid going to see that and then go and bitch out an official because
• 1:02:21
  Patrick Mahomes did it.
• 1:02:22
  Like, I think that's more of an installment of who your coaches are and who you are as
• 1:02:26
  a parent to like that's your kid's mindset.
• 1:02:28
  And if it is, if they're that passionate about something and it's that exact situation or
• 1:02:33
  a similar situation, like, yeah, I'm going to have that conversation with my kid, but
• 1:02:38
  I'm not going to like you're not going to get in trouble.
• 1:02:41
  Right, right.
• 1:02:42
  And I'm cool with with him coming out and apologizing.
• 1:02:45
  And again, that makes sense.
• 1:02:46
  It's everything who he what he stands for and who he is as a person.
• 1:02:50
  The one thing I don't agree with, no matter what, you can apologize all you want, kind
• 1:02:54
  of an unwritten rule, no matter what level of football, you don't throw your helmet on
• 1:02:59
  the fucking ground.
• 1:03:01
  You know, and he took it and he two handed slammed that son of a B right on the ground.
• 1:03:05
  And again, I get it.
• 1:03:06
  Right.
• 1:03:07
  Like he's saying, it's the emotional, you know, I did that once.
• 1:03:10
  I never did it again.
• 1:03:11
  But I did that once because short story, whatever quarterback coach wanted us receivers to go
• 1:03:16
  out and practice our blocking, run blocking and whatever.
• 1:03:18
  And I was doing everything he said, according to me.
• 1:03:20
  Right.
• 1:03:21
  I was doing everything he wanted me to do.
• 1:03:22
  And I was still doing it wrong after like 10 times.
• 1:03:24
  I was like, well, then F and show me and blah, blah, blah and rip my head off through it,
• 1:03:28
  whatever.
• 1:03:29
  But it's not something that you do.
• 1:03:30
  Of course, I was 17 at the time, not however the hell my home is, is 28 or whatever.
• 1:03:35
  But it's like one of those unwritten rules, you know, and he knows that.
• 1:03:39
  And again, probably something else he regrets.
• 1:03:41
  But you just don't throw your helmet, man.
• 1:03:44
  That goes for anybody out there playing football.
• 1:03:46
  Don't don't.
• 1:03:47
  That thing protects you.
• 1:03:48
  Respect your helmet.
• 1:03:49
  Yeah, no, I'm 100.
• 1:03:50
  I can 100 percent get behind that.
• 1:03:52
  It was similar in baseball for me playing growing up.
• 1:03:54
  You know, it's like you you get out, whatever you do.
• 1:03:56
  You don't come back to the dugout, throw your helmet.
• 1:03:58
  I did it one time pitching when I just fucking was terrible.
• 1:04:01
  Came in and just came in and threw my glove into my into my bag.
• 1:04:07
  And my it wasn't even the head coach.
• 1:04:09
  It was the pitching coach came up to me, yelled at me and then stuck me in the bullpen as
• 1:04:13
  the catcher for the rest of the game.
• 1:04:15
  So it was it was like you're going to learn.
• 1:04:17
  And I and I never even thought about doing it from then because it's again like you have
• 1:04:20
  to respect like like you have respect in the game.
• 1:04:23
  It is.
• 1:04:24
  It's part of respect in the game.
• 1:04:25
  But at the same time, so is not yelling at officials.
• 1:04:26
  For sure.
• 1:04:27
  But at the same time, for sure.
• 1:04:28
  At the same time, let's go over to baseball.
• 1:04:31
  How many times the managers get ejected for arguing balls and strikes?
• 1:04:35
  And it's kind of part of the game.
• 1:04:37
  You know, it is so different at the end.
• 1:04:39
  And coaches throughout the whole game are doing everything.
• 1:04:42
  Their only thing they're doing is bitching at the officials.
• 1:04:44
  100 percent.
• 1:04:45
  And so it's already put up with a lot from the coaches.
• 1:04:48
  And that's a tough job.
• 1:04:49
  I'm going to tell you firsthand, even at the high school level, the officials put up with
• 1:04:53
  a lot.
• 1:04:54
  Yeah.
• 1:04:55
  And it's it's a tough job.
• 1:04:56
  And it's so.
• 1:04:59
  In my opinion, though, you don't call that.
• 1:05:04
  You just don't call that in that crucial part of the game.
• 1:05:07
  Was it egregious?
• 1:05:08
  Absolutely.
• 1:05:09
  It was.
• 1:05:10
  But I just don't think you call it.
• 1:05:11
  No.
• 1:05:12
  And like I'm 50 50 on it because he's off sides clear as day off sides.
• 1:05:18
  But usually I feel like offensive off sides, they don't let the play continue.
• 1:05:22
  Usually it's as soon as the ball snapped.
• 1:05:24
  I felt like they usually call it.
• 1:05:26
  No, it's all the time.
• 1:05:27
  So it's just like defensive off sides.
• 1:05:28
  You give the free player to make a play.
• 1:05:30
  Well, I don't know, man.
• 1:05:32
  I guess it's different rules, obviously, for the NFL.
• 1:05:34
  But it's just like.
• 1:05:37
  I just think you have to call it if it's that obvious, if it's that obvious.
• 1:05:40
  But under two minutes, you hate to see any calls on either team.
• 1:05:44
  Let them play football.
• 1:05:45
  If you're going up for a pass and you get decked and you don't even not even sniffing
• 1:05:49
  the ball.
• 1:05:50
  Yeah, dude, come on.
• 1:05:51
  Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Like if it's close, I get what you're saying.
• 1:05:54
  You know, we don't want as fans, we don't want the refs running the games.
• 1:05:58
  Is it a power trip thing for the refs?
• 1:06:00
  You've seen it over the history of the NFL.
• 1:06:03
  There's always those conspiracies that the NFL scripted and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:06:07
  And you know, the refs are being told this or that and the other thing.
• 1:06:10
  I think it's more or less.
• 1:06:12
  Sometimes the refs are like.
• 1:06:15
  This what was it?
• 1:06:16
  It was a Monday night game.
• 1:06:17
  No, a Sunday night game, wasn't it?
• 1:06:18
  The Chiefs?
• 1:06:19
  No, it was a Sunday afternoon game.
• 1:06:21
  Sorry, the Chiefs bills.
• 1:06:22
  But like this national TV, I'm going to get my time.
• 1:06:26
  Like.
• 1:06:27
  Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  And I think that 100 percent has happened in the past.
• 1:06:31
  It's just it sucks to see that the worst thing about it is it just it sucks to see that it
• 1:06:36
  came to that.
• 1:06:37
  That's what the talk of the game is.
• 1:06:39
  At the end of the day, that just sucks.
• 1:06:41
  No, 100 percent.
• 1:06:44
  Let's get on to this week's slate, sir.
• 1:06:48
  I did listen last week and I had not really noticed that I didn't even notice that shit
• 1:06:52
  until just now.
• 1:06:53
  I read it.
• 1:06:54
  I was like, oh, shit, he's going to go with the Vikings game first.
• 1:06:58
  I did listen.
• 1:06:59
  I honestly just hadn't realized that that has been the case.
• 1:07:01
  So we're going to start off next week.
• 1:07:03
  Slate, we have the Vikings traveling down to Cincinnati, taking on the Bengals.
• 1:07:07
  The home team Bengals are a three and a half point favorite in that game.
• 1:07:12
  Your team, sir, starts off.
• 1:07:14
  I don't actually give a shit, but I appreciate this.
• 1:07:17
  Yes.
• 1:07:18
  So, yes, the best team in the league.
• 1:07:19
  We're starting with the Minnesota Vikings traveling to Cincinnati.
• 1:07:22
  Do it.
• 1:07:23
  I I really don't think I can take the Vikings here.
• 1:07:27
  Seriously.
• 1:07:28
  I think Cincinnati wins by that three and a half.
• 1:07:29
  I don't want to say that as a fan.
• 1:07:31
  I'm rooting for my Vikings this weekend, obviously.
• 1:07:34
  But Jake Browning's hot.
• 1:07:36
  That defense played well this past weekend, too.
• 1:07:39
  We talked about Jake Browning and that offense already, but that defense really stepped up
• 1:07:42
  this weekend as well.
• 1:07:45
  Now I do think Brian Flores will be bringing the heat as always.
• 1:07:49
  So that's the matchup for me.
• 1:07:52
  Jake Browning verse whatever blitz is.
• 1:07:55
  It's Jake Browning versus Brian Flores this weekend for me for the game.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:08:00
  I don't think the Vikings are going to win this game.
• 1:08:02
  You got Nick Mullins coming in that quarterback.
• 1:08:04
  I mean, the Vikings did score the same amount of points as the Wild did last Sunday.
• 1:08:07
  So you never really know what's going to happen.
• 1:08:09
  Look at you with the wild.
• 1:08:11
  Hey, but I'm with you.
• 1:08:14
  I just I think the Bengals are playing way too hot.
• 1:08:16
  Jake Browning just he's playing out of his mind.
• 1:08:18
  They have a balanced offense.
• 1:08:19
  Chase Brown came out last week, but they still got Jamar.
• 1:08:22
  They still got T Higgins.
• 1:08:23
  They still got Tyler Boyd.
• 1:08:25
  Joe Mixon's being his normal self this year.
• 1:08:27
  So I just think the Bengals are just playing way too hot right now.
• 1:08:30
  I got the I got the Bengals covering that three and a half.
• 1:08:33
  That moves us on to the next game.
• 1:08:35
  The Tampa Bay Buccaneers come up to Lambeau taking on my Packers.
• 1:08:40
  Even after that, a biz after that poor performance last week, the Packers are favored in this
• 1:08:44
  one three and a half points to get that game.
• 1:08:46
  Packers are going to cover that, sir.
• 1:08:48
  I agree.
• 1:08:50
  This is a must win game for them after last week.
• 1:08:53
  I really thought after that touchdown that that was it.
• 1:08:56
  I thought that defense would honestly lock it down and the Giants wouldn't even get an
• 1:09:00
  attempt at a field goal.
• 1:09:01
  I thought it would come down to a Hail Mary, to be honest with you.
• 1:09:04
  So I don't know.
• 1:09:05
  I'm a little concerned.
• 1:09:06
  I'm going to go with the Packers.
• 1:09:07
  I think that's they should win.
• 1:09:10
  They have to win.
• 1:09:11
  What scares me in this game is the Buccaneers have just as much to play for as the Packers
• 1:09:14
  because they're still in.
• 1:09:16
  They're still, you know, going at it in that NFC South Division.
• 1:09:22
  Technically they're leading the division right now, too.
• 1:09:25
  They are.
• 1:09:26
  So I think the Packers, they need this one more than anything.
• 1:09:29
  Going back up to Lambeau.
• 1:09:30
  The NFC South is tight.
• 1:09:32
  NFC South is a terrible division.
• 1:09:34
  That is tight, though.
• 1:09:35
  Just terrible.
• 1:09:36
  Tight.
• 1:09:37
  You got Tampa.
• 1:09:38
  Every single team has a losing record.
• 1:09:39
  Oh my God.
• 1:09:40
  Tight.
• 1:09:41
  The winner of this division might actually have a losing record on the year.
• 1:09:45
  You know what's insane?
• 1:09:46
  They probably will, actually.
• 1:09:47
  The Saints are six and seven with a 24 plus 24 point differential.
• 1:09:52
  That's wild to me.
• 1:09:54
  But nonetheless, so yeah, Packers are going to cover this one.
• 1:09:56
  They're going to win by more than three and a half.
• 1:09:58
  But that three and a half kind of scares me.
• 1:10:00
  I think this is really a field goal game, to be honest with you.
• 1:10:03
  Yeah, that point five is.
• 1:10:04
  I would love this if it was three.
• 1:10:05
  Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  But I'm still confident in the three and a half.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah.
• 1:10:09
  I'm still taking the pack, too.
• 1:10:10
  Then we have a AFC showdown with the Pittsburgh Steelers taking on the Indianapolis Colts.
• 1:10:17
  Colts are favored in this one.
• 1:10:18
  Two and a half points.
• 1:10:19
  Kenny Pickett's not back yet.
• 1:10:21
  Did not love what I saw on Mitch Trubisky last week.
• 1:10:23
  No.
• 1:10:24
  That defense.
• 1:10:25
  I thought he'd play much better.
• 1:10:26
  So did I.
• 1:10:27
  I thought that would open up the offense a little bit more with him as well.
• 1:10:30
  And they really didn't seem to do that.
• 1:10:32
  And it's to me, this game solely is dependent on if Alex Highsmith and T.J.
• 1:10:37
  Wadder get to go.
• 1:10:38
  100 percent.
• 1:10:39
  I was going to say this exact same shit.
• 1:10:41
  Yeah, I mean, I got to go with the Colts because I mean, considering the Steelers struggling
• 1:10:48
  against the Patriots last week, that offense is extremely concerning.
• 1:10:52
  I don't think they.
• 1:10:55
  Yeah, especially without T.J.
• 1:10:58
  Wad and Highsmith, they don't have a shot straight up.
• 1:11:00
  Don't have a shot.
• 1:11:01
  So they need their they need those guys on defense and then they need their defense to
• 1:11:05
  almost pitch a shutout.
• 1:11:06
  So I got to go with the Colts.
• 1:11:08
  I'm with you on that one.
• 1:11:09
  I got the Colts in this one, too.
• 1:11:10
  The Colts really, really, really need this game that, you know, they're part of those
• 1:11:15
  that that six team tie.
• 1:11:17
  And it's.
• 1:11:19
  I just I just.
• 1:11:20
  And one of those teams is the Steelers.
• 1:11:22
  I mean, this is this is going to be a matchup right here.
• 1:11:24
  Yeah, because the Steelers aren't winning the AFC North.
• 1:11:27
  The Ravens got that kind of unlock, I believe, right now.
• 1:11:29
  Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Even with a healthy Alex Highsmith and T.J.
• 1:11:32
  Watt.
• 1:11:33
  Now, granted, a concussion isn't like a like a lingering hamstring injury where it affects
• 1:11:36
  you week after week.
• 1:11:38
  It's if you're back, you're back.
• 1:11:40
  But I don't know.
• 1:11:41
  I just I can't trust the Steelers offense after what the Patriots did to them last week,
• 1:11:45
  man.
• 1:11:46
  So let's move on.
• 1:11:47
  We got the Cowboys taking on the Bills up in Buffalo.
• 1:11:50
  The home team is a two and a half point favorite.
• 1:11:52
  This is our game of the week.
• 1:11:54
  I'll lead us off here.
• 1:11:55
  It looks like you're kind of pondering.
• 1:11:57
  I think the Cowboys are going to go in and actually win this one.
• 1:12:00
  I think this is a Cowboys win by a touchdown or more.
• 1:12:04
  They're playing.
• 1:12:05
  There's their offense is clicking on every level right now.
• 1:12:07
  Their defense is playing really good.
• 1:12:10
  Don't tell Stefan Gilmore he's older.
• 1:12:11
  He's going to come at you and he'll come at you bad.
• 1:12:15
  Yeah.
• 1:12:16
  So, Stefan Diggs, learn, learn from A.J.
• 1:12:19
  Brown.
• 1:12:20
  But the the Bills are playing good.
• 1:12:23
  But I think the Cowboys have a better defense than the Chiefs and Josh Allen didn't look
• 1:12:27
  great last week.
• 1:12:28
  Cowboys are winning this one by, like I said, seven or more.
• 1:12:30
  Yeah, I think it's really hard to argue that it really is.
• 1:12:34
  I'm going to go ahead and make it interesting.
• 1:12:37
  Let's go.
• 1:12:38
  Let's go with the Bills.
• 1:12:39
  You know, going back home, this is a chance for them to they got lucky this past weekend.
• 1:12:45
  They really did.
• 1:12:46
  Obviously, we've already touched on that multiple times.
• 1:12:49
  But this is this is a game where I don't know, maybe it'll be cold.
• 1:12:54
  Maybe Dallas can't handle that this weekend.
• 1:12:56
  I don't know.
• 1:12:57
  But that's what I'm banking on, that there'll be some weather that's going to be kind of
• 1:13:02
  a crappy game and the Bills could sneak out with it.
• 1:13:06
  I don't know.
• 1:13:07
  I think Josh Allen and if it's good weather, I think this is a bounce back game for Josh
• 1:13:10
  Allen.
• 1:13:11
  I think it's a hard defense to do it against.
• 1:13:13
  But if he does.
• 1:13:16
  Then maybe we do see the Bills in the playoffs, which we did not think was a possibility like
• 1:13:20
  two weeks ago.
• 1:13:21
  That's a scary team to see in the playoffs.
• 1:13:22
  Who?
• 1:13:23
  The Bills.
• 1:13:24
  I know.
• 1:13:25
  Yeah.
• 1:13:26
  Yeah.
• 1:13:27
  Once they get there, then who knows?
• 1:13:28
  All bets are off.
• 1:13:29
  That's a sneaky team.
• 1:13:30
  All bets are off.
• 1:13:31
  So I think we'll make it interesting this week for Game of the Week.
• 1:13:32
  I think I got to go with Bills at home.
• 1:13:34
  All right.
• 1:13:35
  I like the diversity.
• 1:13:36
  I like the diversity.
• 1:13:37
  All right.
• 1:13:38
  Let's round this this laid out here.
• 1:13:39
  We have the Baltimore Ravens taking on the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 1:13:42
  All right, three and a half point underdog in this one.
• 1:13:46
  To be honest with you guys, the slate's not too terribly great this week.
• 1:13:49
  So we were kind of stuck with two games here that we just had to kind of flip coin on,
• 1:13:53
  you know.
• 1:13:54
  But the Ravens are going to win this game by, you know, at least four points.
• 1:13:59
  I got the Ravens taking this one easily.
• 1:14:01
  They're playing damn good right now.
• 1:14:03
  That defense is jumping.
• 1:14:04
  OBJ seems to be coming kind of back in that old form.
• 1:14:07
  He's kind of building that connection with Lamar now.
• 1:14:10
  So I got the Ravens winning this one.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah, it's hard to argue that.
• 1:14:15
  I'm probably going Ravens too, especially with do we know if Trevor Lawrence is back
• 1:14:19
  this week?
• 1:14:20
  Pretty sure he's playing.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah.
• 1:14:23
  Lawrence should be good to go for Wednesday's practice and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:14:27
  They're at home.
• 1:14:31
  Jaguars need this game too.
• 1:14:32
  They do.
• 1:14:33
  I you know what?
• 1:14:34
  F it.
• 1:14:35
  We're going to make this interesting too.
• 1:14:36
  I think the Jaguars at home.
• 1:14:39
  Yeah, they're not three.
• 1:14:41
  They're the Ravens are three and a half point favorites.
• 1:14:44
  But I think if they have Trevor Lawrence, I think they have a shot.
• 1:14:49
  And again, it's another team that's playing with some emotion.
• 1:14:52
  They know how close they are to falling out of the playoffs.
• 1:14:55
  They know they got to keep winning.
• 1:14:57
  I think this is obviously a must win game for them.
• 1:15:00
  We knew it was going to be tight for them coming down the stretch.
• 1:15:03
  They can't they they really couldn't lose last week and they did.
• 1:15:07
  So I think they know it's all on the line here.
• 1:15:09
  So I think Jacksonville may be playing with pressure.
• 1:15:12
  Pull it off.
• 1:15:13
  I like it.
• 1:15:14
  I like it.
• 1:15:15
  We're going to have a little mix up in the scoreboard and we will.
• 1:15:19
  Not that this means anything to you guys at this point because you've heard it week after
• 1:15:24
  week.
• 1:15:25
  No one cares.
• 1:15:26
  Smelty and I have no one cares.
• 1:15:27
  Smelty and I have that's a little inside joke for us.
• 1:15:31
  But Smelty and I have committed.
• 1:15:32
  We will get you the standings this week.
• 1:15:34
  Now, you know, we haven't been too terribly consistent with getting a pot every week.
• 1:15:39
  We've kind of turned that around.
• 1:15:41
  So we'll commit to you guys.
• 1:15:42
  We'll get that done.
• 1:15:43
  You get to get a pot every week for the rest of the year.
• 1:15:45
  And then we're going to have some fun in the offseason with the guys as well.
• 1:15:48
  But as always, like comment, subscribe, Spotify, YouTube.
• 1:15:53
  We are there.
• 1:15:54
  Smelty, it's been a pleasure, brother.
• 1:15:56
  We'll see you guys next week.
• 1:15:58
  As always.
• 1:16:00
  Don't forget to follow, like and subscribe.
• 1:16:04
  Tune in next time for more banter with the boys.