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Mega Edition: Courtney Wild And Her Jeffrey Epstein Related Deposition (Part 1-4) (10/16/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. As we continue to take a look at
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  Speaker 1: the unsealed files that have been released, this time we're
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  Speaker 1: turning our attention to the deposition of Courtney Wilde. Now
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  Speaker 1: the man who's in charge of this deposition, the one
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  Speaker 1: asking the questions, is Jack Goldberger, who is a lawyer
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  Speaker 1: for Jeffrey Epstein. So when I say question, that's Jack Goldberger.
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  Speaker 1: asking the questions, and when I say answer, that's Courtney
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  Speaker 1: doing the answering. And if anybody else joins in with
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  Speaker 1: asking questions or answering, I'll make sure to notate that
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  Speaker 1: as well. So, let's get to it. Question, Goldberger. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: would you state your name for the record, please? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Elizabeth Wilde. Question, do you go by another name? Answer, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Courtney Elizabeth Moody. Question, okay. Which name do you prefer
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  Speaker 1: to use for now, Wild or Moody? Answer, you can
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  Speaker 1: use Wild. Question, okay, is Moody a married name for you? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and is there a Mr. Moody? Answer, yeah. Question, what's
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  Speaker 1: his first name? Answer, Brent. Question, and are you still
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  Speaker 1: married to Mr. Moody? Answer, yes. Question, okay, about how
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  Speaker 1: long have you been married? Answer, about six years. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and where is Mr. Moody right now? Answer, he's incarcerated. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and where is he incarcerated? Answer, at Sewanee CI. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's here in the state of Florida. Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what he was convicted of that has
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  Speaker 1: him incarcerated? Answer, robbery. Question, strong arm robbery. Arm robbery,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what it was? Answer, just robbery. Question,
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  Speaker 1: just a plain robbery. Answer, yes. Question, okay. And he
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  Speaker 1: was sentenced as a habitual offender. Answer, yes. Question, correct. Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what it means to be a habitual offender? Answer, yeah. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what does it mean? Answer, that he's had a history.
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  Speaker 1: He has history, you know. Question, do you know what
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  Speaker 1: his history is? Answer, well, the first time he went
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  Speaker 1: to prison, he was convicted for robbery as well, I believe. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: were you married to him? When he was convicted of
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  Speaker 1: the robbery that has him in the Sewanee Correctional Institution now? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and do you know what his sentence is? Answer, he
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  Speaker 1: was sentenced to 13 years. Question, okay, were you living
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  Speaker 1: with him when the robbery that had him convicted and
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  Speaker 1: sentenced to 13 years took place? Answer, yeah. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: where were you living then? Answer, in Delray Beach. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and what was the address there? Answer, I can't remember
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  Speaker 1: the address offhand. Question, okay. So, Brant Moody was convicted
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  Speaker 1: in Palm Beach County for robbery? Answer, yes. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: sentenced as the habitual offender? Answer, correct. Question, okay. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I asked you this already, but do
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  Speaker 1: you know when that took place? Answer, about five years ago. Question, okay. So,
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  Speaker 1: you were not yet in custody on your trafficking case? Answer, correct. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And you and Mr. Moody have a child. Is that correct? Answer, yes. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And your child was born in prison? Answer, no. My
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  Speaker 1: child's five years old. Question, okay. Have you been married
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  Speaker 1: to anyone else other than Mr. Moody? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: any other marriages in your life? Answer, no. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: What is the sentence that you are serving now, Ms. Wilde? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: a 36-month sentence. Question, okay, and what were you convicted of? Answer, trafficking,
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  Speaker 1: violation of probation, and petty theft. Question, okay, you were
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  Speaker 1: convicted of trafficking in amphetamines? Answer, yes. Question, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: do you know what drug in particular you were convicted
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  Speaker 1: of trafficking in? Answer, methamphetamine, amphetamines. Question, what county were
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  Speaker 1: you convicted of trafficking in amphetamines? Answer, Hillsborough. Question, okay. Answer, Tampa, Florida. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and you were convicted of trafficking in more than 28
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  Speaker 1: grams of methamphetamine? Answer, no, actually, it wasn't more than
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  Speaker 1: 28 grams. That's what I was booked on. But it
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  Speaker 1: was under 28 grams when I pled out. Question, but
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  Speaker 1: you pled to trafficking, correct? Answer, correct. That's correct. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what does trafficking mean? Answer, selling drugs, basically. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you were convicted of selling drugs? Answer, well, trafficking, right. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but trafficking means selling drugs. Answer, correct. Question, you entered
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  Speaker 1: a guilty plea to something, did you not? Answer, correct. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and you stood in front of a judge and told
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  Speaker 1: the judge that you were guilty. Did you not? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I did. Question, and you told the judge that you
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  Speaker 1: were guilty of selling drugs, is that correct? Answer, yes,
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  Speaker 1: if that's how you want to word it, yes. Question, well,
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  Speaker 1: you tell me how you want to word it. You
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  Speaker 1: can word it any way you want to. Answer, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I told him I was guilty of trafficking, selling methamphetamine. Answer, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and the trafficking in methamphetamine had a significance because it
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  Speaker 1: carried a minimum mandatory sentence with it, did it not? Answer, right. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and do you know what I mean when I say
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  Speaker 1: mandatory minimum sentence? Answer, yes. Question, okay, what does it mean? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: that I had to do, it was three years that
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  Speaker 1: I had a minimum mandatory of three years. Question, so
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  Speaker 1: the judge could think you were the nicest person in
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  Speaker 1: the world and he had to give you three years
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  Speaker 1: in prison. Answer, correct. Question, okay. And you negotiated a
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  Speaker 1: guilty plea to that trafficking case? Answer, yes. Question, you
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  Speaker 1: had a lawyer representing you, did you not? Answer, I did. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: did you have a court-appointed lawyer or did you have
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  Speaker 1: a private paid lawyer? Answer, no, I had a private attorney. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And that private attorney negotiated the plea for you, correct? Answer, correct. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and do you know that you could be facing up
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  Speaker 1: to 30 years on that trafficking case? Answer, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was like seven years. I could have gotten was
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  Speaker 1: seven years. It went down to three. Question, okay, your
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  Speaker 1: understanding is that the maximum you could have been sentenced
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  Speaker 1: to on the trafficking case that you pled guilty to
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  Speaker 1: was seven years in prison? Answer, correct. Question, and your
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  Speaker 1: lawyer told you that? Brad Edwards, I object. Goldberger, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need to answer that question. That's fine. Okay. Your
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  Speaker 1: understanding was that you could only be sentenced to seven
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  Speaker 1: years in prison. Answer. When I first was booked on
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  Speaker 1: the charge and I went to the first appearance, the
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  Speaker 1: first judge you see at first appearance told me it
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  Speaker 1: was a minimum mandatory of seven years. Question. Okay. Answer.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I was told. Question. Right. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not talking about the minimum mandatory. I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 1: statutory maximum was for the offense for which you entered
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  Speaker 1: into a plea negotiation. Answer with trafficking charges. It's about
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  Speaker 1: the weight of the drug. And because I had 28 grams,
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  Speaker 1: it was a seven year minimum mandatory. Now, when I
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  Speaker 1: sat in county and I fought it for 10 months,
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  Speaker 1: when they went back and tested the drugs, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: 28 grams. It was under 28 grams. So I took
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  Speaker 1: a guilty charge, pleaded guilty to trafficking, selling drugs or methamphetamines,
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  Speaker 1: and took 36 months. Okay, my question though, this is
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  Speaker 1: Goldberger again, putting aside the minimum mandatory, do you know
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  Speaker 1: what the statutory maximum is? Do you know what I
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  Speaker 1: mean when I say statutory maximum? Answer, no. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: now you say that you fought and contested that charge
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  Speaker 1: for 10 months. Answer, correct. Question, okay, so you told
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  Speaker 1: the judge for 10 months that you were not guilty
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  Speaker 1: of the offense, correct? Objection by Mr. Scarola. Objection. Leading.
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  Speaker 1: The witness. I don't know how to. Mr. Scarola. Objection. Pleading. Goldberger.
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  Speaker 1: Did you tell the judge that you were guilty of
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  Speaker 1: the offense for 10 months? Answer. Correct. Scarola. Objection. Leading. Goldberger. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And after 10 months, did you enter a guilty plea? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so after 10 months of saying that you were not guilty,
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  Speaker 1: you stood in front of a judge. Was it the
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  Speaker 1: same judge, by the way? Answer, yes. Scorola, objection, compound,
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  Speaker 1: and leading. Question, okay, did you tell the judge that
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  Speaker 1: in fact you were guilty of selling drugs? Answer, so
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  Speaker 1: when I was booked, if you could see the charges
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  Speaker 1: that I was booked to, when I pled guilty, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't charged with all those charges that I was first
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  Speaker 1: booked on. But yes, I pleaded guilty after 10 months. Question. Okay. Answer.
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  Speaker 1: Of seeing the same judge. Yes, I did. Question. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to pleading guilty to trafficking in drugs and
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  Speaker 1: selling drugs, you also pled guilty to violation of probation. Answer. Correct. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And in fact, you were on probation for theft for stealing.
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  Speaker 1: Were you not? Answer. Correct. Mr. Scrolla. Objection. Leading. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Were you on probation for theft? Answer. Yes, I was. Question. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And were you on probation for felony theft? Answer. There
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  Speaker 1: is a possibility. Yes. Question. Okay. Answer. I'm sure I was. Question. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You sure you were? Answer. Yes, I was. Question. Why
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  Speaker 1: are you sure you were on probation for felony theft? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: let me go back. I was on probation for felony theft. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and the reason why you were on probation for felony
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  Speaker 1: theft is that you had so many convictions of petty theft. Answer, correct. Scarola,
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  Speaker 1: objection leading. Goldberger question. Was there another charge that you
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  Speaker 1: were also charged with and pled guilty to when you
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  Speaker 1: were sentenced to three years in the state Florida Department
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  Speaker 1: of Corrections? Answer. It was the trafficking violation of probation
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  Speaker 1: and petty theft question and the petty theft answer. Correct. Question. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Did you plead guilty to that petty theft? Answer. Yes. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Was that a crime of dishonesty? Answer. Was it a
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  Speaker 1: crime of dishonesty? Question. Yeah. Answer. I mean, she gets
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  Speaker 1: interrupted by Scarola. Excuse me. I'm going to object to
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  Speaker 1: the extent in question calls for legal conclusion. Goldberger. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Did you do something dishonest when you stole and got
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  Speaker 1: convicted of petty theft? Answer. Sure. Question. Okay. What was it?
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  Speaker 1: He gets interrupted by Scarola. Same objection. Goldberger goes on.
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  Speaker 1: What was it that you did? That was dishonest when
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  Speaker 1: you stole and pled guilty to the petty theft. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I took something that wasn't mine. Question, and what did
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  Speaker 1: you take? Answer, I can't remember right now. Question, because
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  Speaker 1: there were so many of them. Answer, no, I just
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  Speaker 1: can't remember exactly what I took. Question, did you have
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  Speaker 1: a bond when you were arrested for selling, trafficking, and amphetamines? Answer, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I did. Question, I don't remember how much it was. Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember how much it was. Question, did you
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  Speaker 1: try and post bond at all? Answer, no. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: did you have the money to post bond? Answer, no. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and if I tell you that the bond was $ 25, 000,
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  Speaker 1: did you have $ 2, 500 to post bond? Answer, correct. Question,
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  Speaker 1: who is your lawyer on the case? Answer, Julian Hayes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Julian? Answer, Julian Hayes, yes. Question, okay, is
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  Speaker 1: that a man or a female? Answer, a man. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And he was retained as a lawyer on your part? Answer, yes. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hire a lawyer? Answer, yes. Question, did Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards assist you in the matter? Answer, no. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to wrap up right here. And in
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  Speaker 1: the next episode, we're going to pick up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off. All of the information that goes with this
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  Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone?
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  Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of Of the Epstein Chronicles.
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  Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off with the Courtney Wilde deposition. Question. Now, have
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  Speaker 1: you been at this correctional institution? I say this correctional institution.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's called Gadsden. Is that what it's called? Answer. Uh-huh. Question. Gadsden.
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  Speaker 1: Correctional institution. Answer. Yes. Question. Have you been there since
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  Speaker 1: your sentence? Answer. Yeah. Well, when I was first sentenced,
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  Speaker 1: they took me to RNO. Question, what's that? Answer, RNO
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  Speaker 1: is where they bring everybody that gets sentenced to prison,
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  Speaker 1: and they basically show you how to be a prisoner
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  Speaker 1: for about two months. And then they ship you to
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  Speaker 1: whatever compound you're going to. So I stayed at RNO,
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  Speaker 1: which is a compound in Ocala, for two months, and
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  Speaker 1: then I was shipped here. Question, and you go to
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  Speaker 1: this RNO to learn how to be a prisoner? Answer, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: basically that's where they show you how to live in
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  Speaker 1: these conditions, basically. Question, I see, okay. And you've been
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  Speaker 1: here ever since, leaving RNO? Answer, yes. Question, in Ocala? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: when is your projected release date, Ms. Wilde? Answer, my,
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  Speaker 1: it's October 12th, 2018. Question, okay, is that subject to change?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that kind of cast in stone because of
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  Speaker 1: the minimum mandatory sentence? Answer, no, that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: my release date. Question, okay. So on October 12th of 2018,
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  Speaker 1: how much of the three-year minimum mandatory sentence, the minimum
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  Speaker 1: sentence you could have received, will you have served? Answer.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do two and a half years on three years. Question. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And the plea bargain that your lawyer, Hayes, is that
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  Speaker 1: the name? Answer. Uh-huh. Mr. Hayes negotiated for you was
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  Speaker 1: the minimum sentence that you could receive. Is that correct? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and what was your arrest date on the trafficking in drugs? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: it was April of 2016. Question, okay, without telling me.
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  Speaker 1: What he may have told you, did you consult with Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Edwards at any time after your arrest in April of 2016? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: about the case, about the trafficking case? Question, yes. Answer, no. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: the theft that you had placed on probation? Based on
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  Speaker 1: the records I'm reviewing, took place in November, actually November
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  Speaker 1: 9th of 2015. Scarola, object to the form of the question.
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  Speaker 1: Scarola continues, excuse me, object to the form of the question.
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  Speaker 1: It's leading and it references documents not in evidence. Question
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  Speaker 1: by Goldberger, do you remember that arrest? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and what were you charged with having stolen? Answer, it
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  Speaker 1: was petty theft. I don't remember what. Question, you don't
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  Speaker 1: remember what you stole? Answer, no. Question, do you remember
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  Speaker 1: what store you stole from? Answer, it was Walmart. Question, Walmart? Answer, uh-huh. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you have any other convictions from having stolen from Walmart? Answer, yeah. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I do. Question, okay. I want to talk to you
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  Speaker 1: about your criminal record for a little while. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember the first time you were ever convicted of a crime? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you remember how old you were? Answer, no, I don't. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you know how many times you have been convicted
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  Speaker 1: of a crime? Answer, no, I don't. Question, have you
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  Speaker 1: ever testified as to the number of times you've been
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  Speaker 1: convicted of a crime? Answer, no. Question, you've never testified
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  Speaker 1: to that? Answer, said how many times I've been convicted
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  Speaker 1: to a crime? Question, yes, ma'am. Answer, not to my knowledge. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember being deposed in the past? Do you not? Answer, yes. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And Mr. Edwards was your attorney? Answer, yes. Question, and
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  Speaker 1: he was sitting there. Answer, okay. Question, and it took place, actually,
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  Speaker 1: in May of 2010. Do you remember that? Answer, yes. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Have you had an opportunity to review that deposition since
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  Speaker 1: it was given? Answer, no. I haven't looked at it
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  Speaker 1: or read it or anything, no. Question, you've never read
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  Speaker 1: that deposition? Answer, no, I haven't. Question, okay. Do you
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  Speaker 1: recall having been asked questions about your convictions at the
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  Speaker 1: deposition in May of 2010? Answer, there were so many questions,
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly if that question, I'm sure. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure if it was, I don't remember. Question, okay. And
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  Speaker 1: you don't remember answering questions about how many times you've
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  Speaker 1: been convicted of a crime back in May of 2010? Answer, no. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: I asked you about your convictions from stealing from Walmart,
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  Speaker 1: and your testimony, I think, was that you've stolen from
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  Speaker 1: Walmart before this most recent case. Is that correct? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you remember a case back in June of 2009,
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  Speaker 1: June 4th of 2009, when you pled guilty to petty
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  Speaker 1: theft for having stolen 38 items, 38 items from Walmart? Answer, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I do remember that. Question, tell me what you remember
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  Speaker 1: about the case. Answer, I went to jail. For stealing
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  Speaker 1: from Walmart? Question, do you remember what you stole? Answer, no. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but that one sticks in your mind. Answer, well, it does.
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  Speaker 1: Now that you brought it up, yeah. Question, I see.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember a conviction or an arrest for battery
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  Speaker 1: concerning someone by the name of Deanna Cornelius? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
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  Speaker 1: who is Deanna Cornelius? Answer, I don't know who she was.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know her as a person. I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know her. Question, you know her name though? Answer, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the name by memory, but I know
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  Speaker 1: who you're talking about. The incident that you're talking about. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what incident am I talking about? Answer, I got into
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  Speaker 1: an altercation with somebody when I went out one night. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: When you went out where? Answer, to a club. Question,
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  Speaker 1: what club was that? Answer, it was a strip club. Question, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Was it platinum gold? Answer, yes. Question, okay. Question. Were
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  Speaker 1: you working at Platinum Gold when you had the altercation
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  Speaker 1: with Deanna Cornelius? Answer. No. Question. You weren't working as
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  Speaker 1: a bartender and a stripper? Answer. I was when the
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  Speaker 1: incident occurred. I was not working at the moment. No. Question.
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  Speaker 1: I see. Answer. I did work there, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: working at that moment. Question. Okay. When you got arrested
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  Speaker 1: for the battery at Platinum Gold, were you using the
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  Speaker 1: name Courtney Wilde or were you using an alias? Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean when I say an alias? Answer. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was a stage name. I think it was when
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  Speaker 1: they came and arrested me. I was working, but the
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  Speaker 1: incident happened like two or like the night or two
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  Speaker 1: nights prior or something like that. Question. Okay. And what
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  Speaker 1: stage name were you using? Answer. I can't remember. Answer.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever use the name Taylor? Is that the
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  Speaker 1: name you used? Answer. Yeah. Question. Okay. And was that
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  Speaker 1: the name you were using when you were arrested for
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  Speaker 1: battery on Deanna Cornelius? Answer. Yeah. When they came and
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  Speaker 1: arrested me, that was the stage name that I was
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: working under, the name Taylor. Question, okay. Answer, yeah. Question, okay,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: so you were visiting that club. Not working the night
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the incident took place. Answer, correct. Question, okay, and then
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: two nights later, you were working there. Under the alias Taylor,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: is that correct? Answer, correct. Question, okay, and the incident
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that took place, the allegation... was that you struck Miss
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Cornelius with a purse containing a can of Slim Fast.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Is that correct? Mr. Scarola, objection leading. Courtney Wilde, no,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: none of that's true. I took the case to trial
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and I beat it. The lady said a lot of
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: things that weren't true. And if you noticed, I was
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: never convicted. That's one of the cases I was never
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: convicted of, so... Question, okay, how many other cases have
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you been convicted, arrested for in your life that you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: haven't been convicted of? Answer, I'm not sure. Question, okay,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: do you remember being arrested for aggravated battery? Question, I
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: believe that was the time I was arrested for aggravated battery.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Was with that lady. Question, oh, the Slim Fast case. With,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: with an, he gets cut off by Courtney. I don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: even know anything about a Slim Fast. Question, okay. But
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: when you ask about aggravated robbery, your recollection, is that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: it involved the case with Cornelius? Answer, Yeah. Question. Okay.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: All right. Have you been arrested for possession of cocaine
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: before and convicted actually? Sclerola objection compound. Question. Have you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: been convicted of possession of cocaine? Answer. No. Question. Have
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you been arrested for possession of cocaine? Answer. I don't
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: believe so. Question. Okay. Do you remember in June of
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: 2007 being arrested for possession of cocaine? Answer. Okay. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: maybe I was. I can't remember. Question. Okay. How many
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: times have you been in jail in your life? Answer,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question, did you know back in May
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: of 2010 when you gave a deposition? Answer, I'm not sure. Question,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: what's the longest amount of time you've ever been in jail? Answer,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: right now. Question, okay, prior to this time that you're
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: spending in jail now, what was the longest amount of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: time you've ever had to spend in jail? Answer, six months. Question, okay,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and what was that for? Answer, grand theft. Question, okay,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: and where did that take place? Answer, the Grand Theft Charges.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I believe it was Walmart, actually. Question, that was the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: right answer. A bad question. What county were you convicted in? Answer,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Palm Beach County. Question, okay. And you served six months
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: in jail for that? Answer, yes. Question, because it was
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: not your first offense, right? Answer, correct. Scarola, objection, leading.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Question by Goldberger. How many offenses have you, how many
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: convictions have you had prior to the one in which
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you served six months in the Palm Beach County Jail? Answer.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It was a total of three grand thefts that I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: served six months on. If that's what you're asking. Question.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So you pled to three grand thefts? Answer. Correct. Question.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Three different time periods though? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay. So
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you pled to three at one time? Answer. Correct. Question.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Entered into plea negotiation? Answer, I can't. I mean, it was,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the year, but yes, I believe
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: so though. Question, okay, who represented you on those cases? Answer,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: public defender. Question, okay, and you were looking at perhaps
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: more than six months in jail for those three offenses
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: for which you were charged? Answer, I can't remember. Question,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you don't know? Answer, right. Question, but you certainly know
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that you entered into plea negotiation, right? Answer, correct. Question,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: when you were deposed in May of 2010, you indicated
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that you had been convicted of crimes maybe four times,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: perhaps three times. Scarola, object to the form of the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: question misleading and proper impeachment. Mr. Goldberger, does that seem
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to be accurate? Scarola, objects once again. Same objections. Courtney Wilde,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I can't remember what I said at
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the deposition. Question, would it refresh your memory to look
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: at the deposition? Would it help you? Answer, no, I mean,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: are there going to be more questions about the deposition
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that I took? Question, probably. Answer, okay, sure. So if
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you want to put it here and I can go back,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Question, okay, so let me
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: first start by asking you to look at page 286
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: of the deposition and see if it refreshes your memory. Scorola,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: do you have an extra copy? Goldberger, I don't, I'm sorry. Brewer,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think I've got one. Scarola, pardon me. Brewer, I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: think I got one. Scarola, okay. We'll just wait for
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: a minute. Which page are you on? Goldberger, 286. Goldberger,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: so what I'd like you to do is read page
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: 286 and ask you if it refreshes your memory as
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: to how many times that you've been convicted of a crime. Mr. Skrola,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to object. This is improper use of a deposition,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: which indicates that there was no answer to that question
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: at the time. How many times have you been convicted
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: of a crime? Answer, I'm not sure. Goldberger just keeps
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: going on. Read the next page if you would, ma'am.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde, 287. Goldberger, I want you to have all
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the context that you need, so read as much as
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you need to, to see if it refreshes your recollection
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: as to how many times you've been convicted of a crime.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde, at this point in time, Mr. Goldberger, yes ma'am,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: but we know that there's been a lot more since then, right?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: The witness, okay, so, but she gets cut off by
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Scarola again. Excuse me, I'm going to object. Argumentative. Goldberger, okay. Scarola, leading.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde, it says either convicted or pleaded guilty to
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: a crime, maybe four times. Scarola, read the entire answer
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: if you would, please. Miss Wilde, And if you could
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: read it out loud, please. Since you've read a portion
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: of it out loud, page 296, starting at line 19.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde, it says, what page is it? 286. Scarola, 286,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: beginning at line 19. Just read that into the record.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And Courtney Wilde begins. And so how many times have
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you been convicted of a crime? My answer was, I'm
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: not sure. Mr. Goldberger, keep going. Scarola. And then the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: next question and answer. Courtney Wilde, the next question may be,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: you're either convicted or pled guilty to a crime, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I said maybe four, four times, three times. Mr. Goldberger,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and your answer was maybe three or four times? Scarola,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: excuse me, would you continue to read? Goldberger interrupts him. Well,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask her a question. Scarola,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: would you continue to read the next? Goldberger, please don't
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: interrupt me, it's my deposition. Scarola, well, the record's going
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: to reflect that the witness has been cut off. Mr. Goldberger, okay. Scarola,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: not permitted to read. Goldberger, you can answer the entire question,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and you can read the entire matter. But as you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: read the question, I want to ask you questions about
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: your answer. Just so you testified, did you not, that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you had been convicted three times or four times, now
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you can, did you? The witness, that's what my answer was. Goldberger,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Now your counsel wants you to read the rest of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the record and you can go ahead. Courtney Wild, what
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: crimes have you either been found guilty or pled guilty to?
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And my answer was I'm not really certain offhand exactly
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: what they were. Mr. Scarola, thank you. That's fine. All right, folks,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode right here. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: to pick up where we left off. All of the
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: information that goes with this episode can be found at
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in the description box. What's up everyone and welcome to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off with the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde deposition. Mr. Escarola, you can continue with the deposition. Goldberger, okay. Question,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: did you also plead guilty to theft of an auto? Answer, yes,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: when I was 15, I believe I did. Question, okay,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you entered a guilty plea to that. Answer, yes. Question,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: as we sit here today, Other than the offenses that
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: you say took place after 2010, do you have a
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: recollection of any other crime that you have entered a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: guilty plea to in the past? Answer, possession charges. Question,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: possession of what? Answer, possession of Xanax. Question, okay. Do
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you know when those took place? Answer, I can't remember
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: exactly the years, no. Question, okay. You used the plural, though,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: meaning that you pled guilty to possession of Xanax more
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: than one time? Mr. Scrolla, objection leading. Courtney, I believe so. Goldberger,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: did you plead guilty to possession of Xanax more than
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: one time in your life? Answer, I think it might
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: have been twice, but it could have been just once.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not 100%. Question, okay. Do you have a recollection
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: of other offenses that you have pled guilty to as
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: we sit here today? Answer, right on the spot. Right now,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly everything that I've pled guilty to, no. Question, okay,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: is your recollection though that there are other offenses that
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: you have pled guilty to? Answer, yes. Question, all right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: when was the last time in your life that you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: saw Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, right before, right before he went
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: to jail. I seen him the weekend before he went
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: to jail. I came back from my club and I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: was watching the news and I seen his mugshot on TV.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And that's how I knew that he had been to jail,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but it was probably like a week or so before
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that that I had seen him. Question, and do you
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: know what year that was? Answer, no. Question, okay. Do
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: you think it was more than 10 years ago? Answer, yeah. Question, okay.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: answer close to 10 years ago question all right so
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the trafficking in drugs that you had pled guilty to
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: where you sold drugs correct that's what you told me
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you sold drugs right answer that's basically she gets cut
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: off by Mr. Scarola objection compounded Courtney once again I
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: didn't say I sold drugs. I said I pled guilty
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: to trafficking, a trafficking charge. Which trafficking means selling drugs,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: but I wasn't selling drugs. Goldberger, you pled guilty to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: something you didn't do? Edwards, objection, misstates your testimony. Mr. Goldberger,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: did you plead guilty to something that you didn't do? Answer,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't even know how to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: answer that. Question, best you can, ma'am. Answer, no, I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: was convicted. I was guilty of trafficking methamphetamine, I guess. Question, okay. Answer,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: because the amount of weight that it was. Question, and
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: what year was that? Answer, when I was sentenced. Question,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: yes ma'am. Answer, 2016. Question, and when did the event
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: take place? Answer, April 2016. Question, okay, that was sometime
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: before 5 and 10 years since the last time you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: had seen Jeffrey Epstein. Answer, that's correct. Question, okay, how
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: many tattoos do you have now? Answer, I'm not, I
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, I have a lot. Question, okay, have you
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: obtained any of those tattoos in the last 10 years? Answer, yes. Question,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: which tattoos have you obtained in the last 10 years? Answer,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: basically almost all of them. Question, the tattoo on your
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: left arm of a barbed wire? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: when did you get that? Answer, I was probably 18
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: when I got that. Question, okay, do you have a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: tattoo on your left hand, on your ring finger? Is
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that correct? Answer, yes. Question, okay, what does that say? Answer,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it says BJGM. Question, and what does that stand for? Answer,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: my husband's initials. Question, Mr. Moody. Answer, yes. Question, okay,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: when did you obtain that? Answer, whenever we got married
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: about six years ago. Question, okay, you have a tattoo
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: on your left leg, correct? Answer, yes. Question, does it
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: say Divine Nordic or Nordic Divine? Answer, no, it just
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: says Divine. Question, Divine. Answer, yeah. Question, oh, okay, and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: when did you get that? Answer, when I was young.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So it was probably over 10 years ago that I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: got that. It was one of my first tattoos. Question,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, one of the first tattoos you ever got? Answer, yeah. Question, okay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: do you have a tattoo on your neck? Answer, no. Question,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: do you have a tattoo that says, get it how
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: you live, with a cross? Answer, right. Oh, yeah, it's
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: on the back of my neck. Question, back of your neck? Answer, yeah. Question. Okay.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: And when did you obtain that one? Answer. When? Probably
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: about over 10 years ago. That was one. That was
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: one of the first tattoos I got. Question. Okay. Do
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you have a tattoo of Bob Marley somewhere? Answer. Yes,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: on my side. Question. On your side? Okay. And a
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: lion's face? Answer. Uh-huh. Question. And a girl? Answer. No girl. Question. Okay.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: So it's a tattoo of Bob Marley and a lion's face? Answer. Correct. Question. Okay.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Two different tattoos or one? Answer. It's just one tattoo. Question.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I see. And when did you obtain that? Answer. A
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Question. Okay. Do you have a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: tattoo on your right arm that says of an elephant
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and it says believe? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay. And when
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: did you obtain that? Answer. Like when I was 20. Question.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: And you have a tattoo on your right leg of roses? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: When did you obtain that? Answer, a couple of years ago. Question,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: when did you first start using drugs? Answer, when I
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: was 14 or 15 years old. Question, okay, what year
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: were you born? Answer, 1987. Question, okay, so you first
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: started using drugs in 2001. Is that a fair statement? Answer,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I would say probably 2002. Question, 2002. Answer, yeah. Question, okay,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: and when I said 2001, but you corrected me to 2002,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: is there something that helps you remember? that you started
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: using drugs in 2007 or 2002? Answer, yeah. When I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: first started going to Jeffrey's house, I soon started using drugs.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Question right. So your drug usage was entirely because of
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: your visiting, Mr. Epstein? Answer, yeah, basically. I, she gets
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: cut off again. Okay. She continues, started using drugs because
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I started going to Jeffrey Epstein's house. Question, okay, were
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: you using drugs because you were a dancer, a stripper? Answer,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I was a dancer and I was using drugs, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I believe the core root of my issue, I wasn't
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a dancer until I was of age to be a dancer.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I started going to Jeffrey's house when I was 14
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: years old. Question, are you, now Courtney cuts him off.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: So 14, 15, 16, 17, I was not a dancer. Question,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: are you testifying today that you were not a stripper
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: back when you were 14 years old? Answer, I was
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: a dancer, but I was not a dancer at 14
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: years old. Question, okay, do you remember working at a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: place called Curves? Answer, I remember going to a place
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: named Curves, but I never worked there. Question, you never
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: worked at Curves as a stripper? Answer, no. Question, did
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: you testify differently concerning working as a stripper at Curves? Answer, I,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: she gets cut off by Scarola, object to the form
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of the question, improper impeachment. Courtney continues, I never worked
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as a stripper at Curves. Goldberger, okay. Courtney, I had
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: been to Curves. I had gone to Curves, but never
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: worked as a stripper there. Goldberger, when was the first
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: time you went to Curves? Answer, when I was like 15. Question, okay.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Is Curves a bar? Answer, yes. Question, does Curves sell liquor? Answer, yes. Question, okay. Answer,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I think they do. Question, yes. How did you get
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: into Curves if you were 14 or 15 years old? Answer,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I don't. The friend that I went with knew somebody
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: that let us in. Question, okay, what was the friend's name? Answer, Tatum. Question,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you went there with Tatum Miller? Answer, yes. Question, okay,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the first time you went to Curves was with Tatum Miller? Answer, yes. Question, uh-huh,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: and you were 14 or 15 years old? Answer, I'm sure,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: like 14, 15 years old. Question, okay. I'd like you
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to read starting on page 27 through page 30 and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: see if that refreshes your recollection as to whether you
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: danced as a stripper at Curves when you were 14
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: or 15 years old. Brad Edwards, what lines did you say? Goldberger,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it's all over. She can read. Let me see the
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: page number. Edwards, page 27 just starts in the middle
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of the sentence. That's why. Goldberger, yeah, let me, I'll
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: give you a line. Okay, you can start actually on
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the top of page 26 and read as much as
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you want. And you can read as much of it
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: as you want into the record if your counsel wants
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you to and see if that refreshes your recollection as
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to whether you were working as a stripper at Curves
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: when you were 14 or 15 years old. Mr. Edwards, object.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Improper impeachment. You can read it yourself. Mr. Brewer, excuse me.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Excuse me. One attorney. Mr. Edwards, well, I represent the witness. Goldberger,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: that's fine. That's fine. I don't care. The witness, okay,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: so what was the question? Goldberger, yes, ma'am. Did you
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: work at Curves as a stripper? Answer, no. Question, okay.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: So what you testified in that deposition in May of
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: 2010 is incorrect. Mr. Skrola, excuse me, I'm going to object.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: That's improper impeachment. If you have a specific page and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: line in reference, a question and answer, then we would
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: be happy to review it. Goldberger, yes. Did you work
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: as a stripper when you were 14 or 15 at
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a nightclub called Curves? Answer, yeah, it says that. I
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: said that. I worked there a couple of times, but... Question,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: did you? Answer, I don't remember ever working there. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: don't remember ever working there as a stripper, no. Question, okay. Answer, no. Question,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: so let's get back to when you first started using drugs.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: When did you first start using drugs, Ms. Wilde? Answer,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: when I was about 14 years old. Question, okay. And
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: what was your first drug of choice? Answer, I started
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: with smoking weed, drinking, and eating Xanax. Question, okay. And
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: at this time that you started smoking weed, drinking, and
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: eating Xanax, what do you mean by eating Xanax? What
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: does that mean? Answer, like taking pills. Question, okay. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: where were you getting these Xanax pills that you were taking?
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Of people that were in the neighborhood that I knew
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: or lived near me at the time. Question, Tata Miller. Answer.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: She knew some of the same people, yes. Question. Okay,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: so you got Xanax from Tata Miller. Answer. No, I'm
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: not saying I got Xanax. I said we know the
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: same people. We lived in the same neighborhood as the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: people that we got them from. Okay, and this was
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: when you were 14 or 15? Answer. Yes. Question. You
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: were taking Xanax. Answer. Correct. Question. Okay, smoking weed, you said? Answer. Yes. Question. Correct.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: How much weed were you smoking when you were 14
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: or 15 years old? Answer, I can't remember. Question, okay.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: And what were the other drugs you talked about? Answer,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: just drinking. Question, okay, drinking. That's right, okay. And what
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: were you drinking when you were 14 or 15 years old? Answer,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Question, okay. Answer, exactly what I was drinking.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off. All of
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome to
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: going to pick up where we left off with the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Courtney Wilde deposition. Question, putting aside your time at Curves,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: when do you recall first being a stripper? Answer, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: was like, I think 17, just like a week before
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: my 18th birthday. Question, okay, and where did you first
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: besides Curves and you deny ever having worked at Curves
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: as a stripper, correct? Answer, I know I went there.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I remember the night when in the deposition, how it
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: says I tried out to be a stripper and audition
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: and stuff. I know I would go there, but I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: don't remember ever going there to work, you know, a
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: couple of times a week. I don't remember that. Question. Well,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: you remember auditioning as a stripper, though at Curves? Answer. Yeah,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I remember getting on stage. I wasn't really taking off,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: taking it as an audition to work there. I was
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, intoxicated and got on stage like
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: playing around, I guess. Question. And this is when you
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: were 14 or 15? Answer. That's correct. Question. Okay. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: were you playing around auditioning by taking off your clothes? Answer.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I don't remember taking off my clothes either. Question. Okay.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So your recollection is that you went on the stage,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: but you did not take off your clothes. Answer. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: can't remember. Question. I see. Was that before you met
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein or after? Answer. No, that was definitely after. Question. Okay.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: What was the next place that you either auditioned or
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: stripped at? Answer. I can't exactly remember. I don't know.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: It was, there was a couple of strip clubs. I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: think it was like Platinum Showgirls. Question, where was Platinum Showgirls? Answer,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: in Boynton. Question, okay. And when did you dance there,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Miss Wilde? Answer, I can't remember the exact dates. Question, okay.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Did you use the stage name when you danced at
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: these places? Answer, yeah. Question, okay, other than Taylor. Do
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: you remember what the other names might have been? Answer, no. Question, okay,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: do you remember other clubs that you stripped at? Answer,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: there was Aphrodite's, which is the same place as Platinum Gold. Question, okay,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: where else? Answer, Cheetah. Question, when you stripped at Aphrodite,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: were you underage? Answer, no, I don't believe I was. Question, okay,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: did you get arrested while you were at Aphrodite for
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: an incident with a girl? Answer, that's the same incident
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: we spoke about. Question, okay, did it involve flicking a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: cigarette at Redacted? Or are we talking about the Slim
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Fast incident? Answer. I thought it was the same. It
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: could have been the same. No, I think it was different.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Question. Okay. Do you remember a different
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: incident when you got arrested for flicking a cigarette at
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: a fellow dancer? Was it a fellow dancer, by the way? Answer.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Question. Okay. Do you remember using the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: name Divine? Answer. Yes, I did. Question. Okay. How about
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the name Margo? Answer. Yes. I use that one name too. Question, okay,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: were you over the age of 18 or under the
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: age of 18 when you were using the names of
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Margo and Divine? Question, I believe I was over 18. Question, okay,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, how old were you when you began
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: to work at Platinum Showgirls as a stripper? Answer, I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: believe I was 18. Question, okay. Answer, I know I
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: went in there the week before my 18th birthday. Question, okay,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: as a customer, but Question. Do you think you ever
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: answered the question differently? Scarola. Object to form and question.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: The witness I can't remember. Scarola. Improper impeachment. Mr. Goldberger.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Would it refresh your memory to look at your deposition
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to see if you've ever answered the question differently? Scarola.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Which question? Goldberger. Whether she said she was of age
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: when she danced at Platinum Showgirls. Page 121. Goldberger. Did
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you read that question, ma'am? Answer, yeah, I read it. Question, okay,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: let me read that into the record to make sure
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: this is what you read. Did you read this question
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: talking about Platinum Showgirls? Page 121, line 2. Line 3,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: when you first start working there, that is, how many
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: months after? I was 17. I had just turned 17
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: when I worked there. That was your answer. Answer, how
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: long ago was this deposition taken? Question, May of 2010.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: May 6, 2010. Answer, okay. Question, so seven years ago. Answer, yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it was eight. Well, almost eight years ago. So I
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: can't understand if I don't have exact, if my answers
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: aren't exactly. There's a lot of stuff that, you know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I've been through. There's a lot. So a lot of
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: this stuff I've blacked, I've blocked out of my mind.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: You know, really, I haven't really thought about it. So
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you're trying to pick apart things that just really, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: if I can't remember, I can't remember. I'm giving you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the best. I'm here in good faith and giving you
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the best knowledge that I have. Question, okay, was your
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: memory better back in 2010? Answer, I mean, that's just
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: a crazy question to ask. You don't think so? Answer, well,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: was it? Answer, I mean, I can't remember. Question, you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: can't remember whether your memory was better in 2010? Answer, right. Question,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: all right, very good. Scrolla, excuse me, I'm going to
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: object to the last series of questions as improper impeachment. Goldberger,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: when you worked at either Platinum Showgirl or Curves or Aphrodite...
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: And what was the other club that you worked at?
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Answer Aphrodite and Cheetah. Question and Cheetah. Okay. And when
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: did you work at Cheetah? Answer. I know I worked
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: there as an adult from 18 up, so I can't
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: remember exactly the day and time that I worked at Cheetah,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: but I have worked at Cheetah before. Question. Okay. When
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you worked at any of those clubs, in addition to
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: stripping on stage, did you perform lap dances? Answer. Yes. Question. Okay.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: For the benefit of all of us, would you tell
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: us what a lap dance is? Answer, when you dance
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: in front of a male or female or for money. Question, okay,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and is there touching involved? Answer, yes. Question, okay, and
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: have you done that before? Answer, yes. Question, okay, what's
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: your state of dress or undress when you do a
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: lap dance? Answer, you get undressed, you take your top off. Answer, okay,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: not your bottoms. Answer, no. Question, okay, you've done that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: many times in your life. Answer, yes. Question, okay. Have
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: men masturbated in front? She cuts him off. No. While
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you were giving lap dances? She answers again. No. Question.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Has there been a period in your life, other than
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: when you were in jail, since you turned age 15,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: when you first started eating Xanax, that you were not
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: using drugs? Answer. Has there? Say it again. Question. Sure. Okay,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: you testified that you started using drugs when you were
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: 14 or 15. Correct? Answer. Correct. Question. And you were
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: smoking weed, you said. Answer. Uh-huh. Answer, yes. Question, okay,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: eating Xanax? Answer, yes. Question, and drinking? Answer, correct. Question, correct, okay.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Other than the times that you've been in jail, was
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: there a time when you were sober and you weren't
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: doing drugs during that time? The time when you were
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: 15 until today's date? Answer, besides me being in prison
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: for this amount of time, no. Question, okay, so during
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: your entire childhood through adulthood, other than the time you've
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: been in jail, you've been a drug user? Edwards objects,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: objection misstates testimony. Courtney Wild, when I was pregnant too.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: When I was pregnant with my son for the nine months. Goldberger, okay,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: you abstained. Answer, correct. Question, during that time period? Okay.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: What other drugs have you done during that time period? Answer,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I've done a lot of drugs. Question, well, let's go
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: through them then. Answer, okay, cocaine, meth, acid. Wait, wait, wait,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you've done cocaine? Answer, correct. Question, okay, when you say meth,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? Answer, methamphetamine. Question, okay, acid,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: is that LSD? Answer, correct. Question, what other drugs were
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: you doing at this time period? Answer, pills. Question, what
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: kind of pills? Answer, like opiates. Question, opiates. Answer, yes. Question, oxycodone. Answer, yes. Question, okay,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: any other opiates that you were taking during this time
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: period where you were using drugs and or not in
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: prison or were not pregnant? Answer, no, that's about it. Question, okay, heroin? Answer, yes. Okay.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Have you ever shot heroin? Answer, yes. Question, okay, with
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the needle? Answer, yes. Question, okay, fentanyl? Did you ever
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: do fentanyl? Answer, yes. Question, okay, what other drugs? Am
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I missing any? Answer, no, that's about it. Question, okay,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: during the time that you were going to Jeffrey Epstein's home,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: were you doing all those drugs we've talked about? Answer, no,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I was smoking. I started smoking weed and doing Xanax
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and drinking. Question. Okay. So during that time that you
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: would have gone to Jeffrey Epstein's house, you were smoking weed. Answer. Uh-huh. Question.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Doing Xanax. Answer. Uh-huh. Question. And drinking. Correct. Question. Okay.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: When you testify in May of 2010 at your deposition. Okay.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Were you doing drugs at that time? Answer. I don't
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: believe that I went to the deposition on drugs. No. Question. Okay.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Were you using drugs at or around the time? That
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you gave the deposition in May of 2010? Mr. Skrola,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: object to the form of the question. Mr. Edwards, object
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to the form. Scorola, vague, also compound. Goldberger, you can answer. Courtney, yes. Question, okay.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: And what drugs were you using around May 6th of 2010? Scorola,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: same objection. The witness, the same drugs. Weed, Xanax, drinking
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: at night. Goldberger, when did the heroin and oxycodone start? Answer,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: that didn't start until I was like 23. Question, okay, so...
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: That would have been 2000. I'm sorry, 2010. What year
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: were you born? Answer, 87. Question, all right. And you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: said you started doing heroin, oxycodone, when you were 23? Answer,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: when I was 23. I'm 29 now, so... Question, all right.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: So that would have been 2000 and... Oh, you're 29 now? Answer, yes.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: So sometime around 2008 is when you started doing heroin? Answer, yes. Question,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and oxycodone? Answer, correct. Question, okay, and you blame your
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: heroin and oxycodone use on Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, I believe
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: that's like the root, you know, the root issue here. Question, okay,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: when you say the root issue, what do you mean
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: by that? I don't understand that. Answer, I believe that
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: the first traumatic event that happened in my life at
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: age 14, I started eating the Xanax and stuff like
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: that to go to Jeffrey's to make me feel more comfortable.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And I feel like ever since then, once I started
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: taking the Xanax, ever since then, It's just been a
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: real downward thing for me my whole life. Question, what
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: other traumatic events have occurred in your life that have
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: caused you to use heroin and oxycodone and other illegal
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: illicit drugs? Answer, besides just, you know, the drug use,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: like stuff that I once I started doing drugs, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: traumatic events, I really don't have. Besides, she gets cut off.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, things have happened to me when I was
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: like young, a young girl and stuff like that. Answer,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: tell me about those. Answer, it starts with Jeffrey Epstein.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Going and taking, you know, bringing girls to Jeffrey. Young
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: girls like myself who, you know, suffer with the same
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: things that I suffer with are drug addicts, half of
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: them now. Since I've been in prison, I've met three
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: girls that I brought to Jeffrey's, you know, since I've
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: been here. Here in this prison? Answer, yes, here in
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: this prison. Question, okay, who are they? Answer, one of
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: the girls' names is Jacqueline Miller. Question, yes, who else? Answer,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable. I don't want to give those
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: people's names if they don't want me to. Question, well,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I'm asking a question, so, Scarola, excuse me, let's just
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: take a moment. Goldberger, can she answer? Do you have
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: some sort of objection? Scarola, pardon me? Goldberger, can she answer?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Do you have an objection? Scarola, we haven't raised an objection. Answer, okay,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: do you recall the names of anyone else? Answer, I
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: don't know their first and last names, no. Question, okay,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: so Jacqueline Miller is the only one you know? Answer, yes,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the first one. Question, okay, so when you say three others,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: there are others? Answer, there's two others besides Jackie Miller
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: that I've met since I've been here, yes. Question, okay,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and you brought them to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer, I haven't,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: but they had been. Question, okay, and you don't remember
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: their names? Answer, no. All right, folks, we're going to
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: with the topic, we're going to pick up where we
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: left off. All of the information that goes with this
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box.