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Arnold Took This Point in an Afternoon. The Granite Fort Came Later. · The Red Solo Traveler Podcast

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  Speaker 1: You are standing on the last knuckle of land at
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  Speaker 1: the mouth of the Thames River, and it is just
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: a scene of absolute chaos.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, complete chaos. It's September 6, 1781.
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  Speaker 1: Right. There is no peaceful waterfront stroll here, like no
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  Speaker 1: gentle sea breeze. You are right in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a privateer harbor under a massive, devastating siege.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the hometown boy, Benedict Arnold, has returned as
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  Speaker 2: a British brigadier general.
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  Speaker 1: Which is wild. And he is basically watching his men
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  Speaker 1: systematically burn the very town that made him rich.
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  Speaker 2: He really is.
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  Speaker 1: So welcome to the Red Solo Traveler podcast. Today we
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  Speaker 1: are setting off on an in-depth exploration of this fantastic
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  Speaker 1: source text provided by Louie. taking us to Fort Trumbull
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  Speaker 1: State Park in New London, Connecticut.
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  Speaker 2: It's such a great text, too.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. And our mission here is to completely
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  Speaker 1: untangle this wildly misunderstood timeline, you know, separating the myths
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: of a single Revolutionary War battle from the reality of
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  Speaker 1: a working waterfront that continuously served the federal government for
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  Speaker 1: over two centuries.
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  Speaker 2: Right. To really grasp this, we kind of have to
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  Speaker 2: start in that chaos you mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, for sure. Arnold is invading his own backyard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a brutal homecoming. Because Arnold isn't just
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  Speaker 2: some invading commander. I mean, he is a local.
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  Speaker 1: He knows the area.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. He knows these waters intimately. He knows how the
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  Speaker 2: river currents behave, where the defensive blind spots are, and
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  Speaker 2: exactly how to exploit them.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So he splits his landing forces at the mouth of
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  Speaker 2: the Thames to execute this highly coordinated two-pronged assault.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this because there is a massive tactical
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  Speaker 1: question here for me.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: If Arnold knows this town so perfectly... Why physically burn
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  Speaker 1: the infrastructure? Like, why not just blockade the river, choke
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  Speaker 1: off the supply lines and, I don't know, starve the
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  Speaker 1: local economy into submission?
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  Speaker 2: Well, a blockade just wouldn't solve the immediate crisis for
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  Speaker 2: the British crown. You know, New London wasn't just a
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  Speaker 2: trading hub.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It was something else entirely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a state-sanctioned pirate haven. I mean, for
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  Speaker 2: six years, Connecticut ships have been operating out of this
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  Speaker 2: exact river as privateers.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Six years. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Right. And they were capturing British merchant vessels, disrupting vital
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  Speaker 2: military supply chains and basically causing absolute financial hemorrhaging for
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  Speaker 2: the British command.
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  Speaker 1: So a blockade is just too slow.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. Plus, a blockade requires a permanent naval presence, which
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  Speaker 2: is really expensive and vulnerable to weather.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The British needed a permanent solution.
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  Speaker 1: They needed to just wipe it out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They needed to burn the ships, the warehouses, the
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  Speaker 2: infrastructure so those privateers could not rebuild. And Arnold was
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  Speaker 2: the ruthless instrument chosen to execute that total destruction. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So Arnold splits his forces. One column lands on the
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  Speaker 1: New London side to march right up to Fort Trumbull,
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  Speaker 1: while the other column heads for the Groton Bank across
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  Speaker 1: the river to assault Griswold. Right. And right here is
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  Speaker 1: where we really need to stop and clear up the
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  Speaker 1: absolute biggest misconception visitors carry onto this property.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this happens all the time.
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  Speaker 1: It does. People constantly blend these two distinct forts into
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  Speaker 1: one generic historical blur. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it completely distorts the reality of the ground. Like,
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  Speaker 2: let's kill the prevailing myths right now.
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  Speaker 1: Please do.
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  Speaker 2: There was no 1809 founding and there was no 1889 decommission.
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  Speaker 2: Those dates are just wrong. Just throw them out. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The original Fort Trumbull was constructed between 1775 and 1777,
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  Speaker 2: and it was named for Governor Jonathan Trumbull.
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  Speaker 1: The only colonial governor to keep his seat by actively
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  Speaker 1: siding with the revolution, right?
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  Speaker 2: You got it. But the fort bearing his name in
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  Speaker 2: 1781 was incredibly primitive. I mean, it wasn't the giant
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  Speaker 2: stone structure you see today.
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  Speaker 1: It was basically dirt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a small garrison holding a simple
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  Speaker 2: earthen stonework, and it was totally vulnerable on three sides.
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  Speaker 1: Which really explains the mechanics of its rapid collapse. Because
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  Speaker 1: I used to think there was like a massive artillery
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  Speaker 1: duel here, but that's entirely wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, completely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Arnold's men marched up the New London side and
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  Speaker 1: they took Fort Trumbull in minutes. I mean, the colonial
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  Speaker 1: defenders looked at the approaching column, realized they were vastly outnumbered,
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  Speaker 1: and immediately spiked their own guns.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They literally drove metal spikes down into the touch
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  Speaker 2: holes of the cannons.
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  Speaker 1: Which is such a brilliant, desperate move.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It's a mechanism of denial. By plugging that
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  Speaker 2: ignition hole, they ensured the British couldn't simply turn the
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  Speaker 2: colonial cannons around and fire them at the fleeing Americans.
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  Speaker 1: And flee they did. I mean, the defenders jumped into
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  Speaker 1: rowboats and rode across the river to Groton, leaving New
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  Speaker 1: London completely undefended.
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  Speaker 2: And that afternoon, the town just burns.
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  Speaker 1: Warehouses, ships, family homes just turn to ash. Meanwhile, across
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  Speaker 1: the river at Fort Griswold, it is a drastically different story.
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  Speaker 2: Very different.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Colonel William Ledyard's militia locks themselves in and holds
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  Speaker 1: the line. They fight this brutal, protracted defense. The British
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  Speaker 1: take massive casualties trying to breach the walls.
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  Speaker 2: And when they finally do, a massacre ensues.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Ledyard holds out until the end and is killed
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  Speaker 1: after officially surrendering his sword. It is a terrifying, bloody stand.
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  Speaker 1: So I look at this timeline and I just don't
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  Speaker 1: get it.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you have Fort Trumbull, which acts like a flimsy
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  Speaker 1: front door getting kicked in instantly. And then Fort Griswold.
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  Speaker 1: which functions as a steel vault where defenders fight to
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  Speaker 1: the death. Why on earth do visitors constantly mash these
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  Speaker 1: two events together?
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  Speaker 2: Well, what's fascinating here is how the human brain naturally
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  Speaker 2: processes historical trauma and geography.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, how so?
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  Speaker 2: When you step onto a historic site, the mind craves
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  Speaker 2: a single, easily digestible narrative. You know, you see two
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  Speaker 2: forts on a map facing each other. You hear the
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  Speaker 2: name Benedict Arnold. And the brain just collapses the geography
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  Speaker 2: and the timeline into one event.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that makes sense. We just want a simple story. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But separating Trumbull's rapid, almost bloodless fall from Griswold's tragic
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  Speaker 2: stand is absolutely essential to understanding Arnold's efficiency.
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  Speaker 1: Because he didn't waste time.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. He didn't waste time or manpower on a drawn-out
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  Speaker 2: siege at Trumbull. He identified it as the path of
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  Speaker 2: least resistance to achieve his primary objective, which was destroying
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  Speaker 2: the economic heart of New London.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, I want to focus on that flimsy front
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  Speaker 1: door concept for a second. Because when you walk onto
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  Speaker 1: the property at 90 Walbach Street today, you are confronted
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  Speaker 1: by a massive, imposing granite pentagon. Like, it looks utterly impenetrable.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it really does.
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  Speaker 1: So there is this immediate visual disconnect between the story
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  Speaker 1: of 1781 and the physical rock you were standing on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that disconnect exists because the original 1775 earthwork
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  Speaker 2: proved fundamentally inadequate.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly.
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, the subsequent War of 1812 proved to the
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  Speaker 2: federal government that early coastal batteries were still terrifyingly vulnerable
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  Speaker 2: to naval bombardment.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So the government realized that if they wanted to protect
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  Speaker 2: these vital deepwater estuaries, they couldn't rely on piles of
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  Speaker 2: dirt and a few cannons anymore. They needed a systemic,
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  Speaker 2: massive masonry upgrade.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, Louis' text notes that the giant pentagon you
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  Speaker 1: walk through today is actually the third fort on this site, right?
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  Speaker 1: Constructed between 1839 and 1852.
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  Speaker 2: That's correct.
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  Speaker 1: So if the 1775 earthwork was the first, what happened
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  Speaker 1: to the second fort? Are we just, like, skipping a
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  Speaker 1: generation of architecture here?
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  Speaker 2: We are, yeah. We're skipping over a relatively brief start gap.
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  Speaker 2: Following the Revolution, the Young Republic built a series of
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  Speaker 2: transitional forts. The second system, mostly during the buildup to
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  Speaker 2: the War of 1812.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so slightly better dirt piles.
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  Speaker 2: Basically. They were slightly better masonry and earthworks, but they
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  Speaker 2: were still heavily flawed and weathered really poorly. The original
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  Speaker 2: revolutionary earthwork is completely gone, and the second system upgrades
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  Speaker 2: were largely obliterated to make way for the final iteration.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, just wiped clean.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly, yes. In fact, the absolute oldest thing on the
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  Speaker 2: entire property today is a small granite blockhouse built in 1794.
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  Speaker 1: I saw pictures of that blockhouse in the source material.
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  Speaker 1: It's just sitting there, small and gray, tucked away on
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  Speaker 1: the grounds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look like much.
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  Speaker 1: But mechanically, that is the only surviving structure that the
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  Speaker 1: early Republic and Arnold's contemporaries would actually recognize.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely. Because the massive pentagon looming behind it is a
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  Speaker 2: completely different beast entirely. It represents the third system of
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  Speaker 2: coastal defense.
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  Speaker 1: Right, the big masonry forts.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The United States built 42... of these massive standardized
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  Speaker 2: masonry forts along the eastern and southern coastlines. And the
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  Speaker 2: engineering mechanism was simple but effective.
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  Speaker 1: Build really thick walls.
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  Speaker 2: Build vertical granite walls thick enough to absorb cannonballs, yes.
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  Speaker 2: And construct vaulted stone chambers inside, which are called casemates,
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  Speaker 2: to protect the defenders and their heavy seacoast guns from
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  Speaker 2: plunging fire.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, but here's where it gets really interesting. Because third
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  Speaker 1: system forts are famously utilitarian, right?
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  Speaker 2: Usually, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are military machines, maybe featuring some sparse Greek
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  Speaker 1: influence if the engineer was feeling artistic. Right. But Fort
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  Speaker 1: Trumbull features Egyptian revival architecture.
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  Speaker 2: It does, which is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild. You walk up to this five-sided fighting work
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  Speaker 1: built to house 42 heavy cannons, and you are greeted
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  Speaker 1: by these incredibly ornate sloping gateways and heavy lotus detailing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it stands out.
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  Speaker 1: I compare it to wearing a heavily tailored, highly ornamental
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  Speaker 1: tuxedo to a street fight. Like, why add such strange
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  Speaker 1: ancient artistic flair to a 19th century military installation?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it seems entirely counterintuitive for a weapons platform, I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you that. But this masonry masterpiece illustrates a brief
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  Speaker 2: window in the 19th century where national defense and national
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  Speaker 2: pride heavily overlapped.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, like showing off.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. The American engineers wanted to project strength, permanence, and
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  Speaker 2: historical legacy. The Egyptian revival style... with its visual echoes
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  Speaker 2: of pyramids and eternal pharaohs. communicated unyielding ancient power.
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  Speaker 1: It was a geopolitical flex.
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  Speaker 2: Carved straight into the granite, it was signaling to any
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  Speaker 2: passing European ship that the United States was a permanent,
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  Speaker 2: immovable fixture.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we have this incredibly odd ornamental tuxedo of
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  Speaker 1: a fort that But if we strip away the Egyptian
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  Speaker 1: gateways and the granite walls, the real reason the military
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  Speaker 1: built this structure here, and the reason they refused to
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  Speaker 1: leave the property for the next century and a half,
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  Speaker 1: is the pure geography.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Geography is everything.
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  Speaker 1: Right. And to grasp that, you have to physically climb
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  Speaker 1: up to the uneven stone ramparts on the roof of
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  Speaker 1: the fort.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, standing on those ramparts reveals the fort's unvarnished utility.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it is not just a scenic overlook.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely not.
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  Speaker 2: You have complete, unobstructed command over the mouth of the harbor...
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  Speaker 2: the Grodin Shore across the way, and most importantly, the
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  Speaker 2: specific narrow deepwater channel that any ship must navigate to
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  Speaker 2: enter or exit Long Island Sound.
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  Speaker 1: It's essentially a toll booth on a one-way highway.
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  Speaker 2: That's a perfect way to describe it.
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  Speaker 1: Because of the river's current and the surrounding shoals, a
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  Speaker 1: ship couldn't just casually sail out of range. Any vessel
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  Speaker 1: entering that sound had to pass right through the crosshairs
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  Speaker 1: of those 42 guns. Right. You look across the water
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  Speaker 1: today and you see Groton, Fort Griswold on the hill,
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  Speaker 1: the massive electric boat shipyards, and the Coast Guard Academy.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't just a historical diorama. Submarines still navigate this
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  Speaker 1: exact river today.
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  Speaker 2: And if we connect this to the bigger picture, that
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  Speaker 2: unyielding geography is exactly why the Army, the Treasury Department,
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  Speaker 2: and the Navy all eventually fought for control of this
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  Speaker 2: exact same piece of rock.
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  Speaker 1: They all wanted the toll booth.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's not merely a plot of land. It is
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  Speaker 2: a strategic maritime church point that never lost its intrinsic value,
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  Speaker 2: even as military technology evolved far beyond granite walls and cannonballs.
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  Speaker 1: But wait, if this massive granite fortress was so geographically perfect,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't it see action in later wars? Did they just, like,
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  Speaker 1: lock the heavy wooden doors and abandon it once coastal
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  Speaker 1: artillery became obsolete?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, not at all. That is the B-plot of Fort Trumbull,
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  Speaker 2: and it is entirely unique.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell me about the B-plot.
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  Speaker 2: The site didn't become a dusty relic. It just continuously
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  Speaker 2: acquired new federal jobs. Let's trace the mechanics of this timeline.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: During the Civil War, the fort didn't see combat, but
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  Speaker 2: the Army utilized it as a massive recruiting and training
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  Speaker 2: post for the 14th U.S. Infantry.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the thick walls provided a secure, organized staging
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  Speaker 1: ground before troops deployed south.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And then, in the early 1900s, the Treasury Department
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  Speaker 2: swoops in.
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  Speaker 1: The Treasury Department. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they take over the site for the Revenue Cutter Service.
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  Speaker 2: Which makes perfect logistical sense when you think about it.
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  Speaker 2: The Revenue Cutter Service was tasked with enforcing maritime laws
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  Speaker 2: and preventing smuggling.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So they needed a place to train cadets in coastal enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: And this site offered a protected deepwater harbor with immediate
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  Speaker 2: access to the open ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And then when the Cutter Service merged with the Life
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  Speaker 2: Saving Service in 1915, this specific site became the very
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  Speaker 2: first United States Coast Guard Academy.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, really? The first one? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The cadets lived and trained right here inside these stone
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  Speaker 2: walls until they moved upriver to their present campus in 1932.
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  Speaker 1: That is so cool. I love that the rock still
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  Speaker 1: isn't done.
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  Speaker 2: Far from it.
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  Speaker 1: Because then World War II hits and the buildings transform again,
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  Speaker 1: this time into a merchant marine officer school. Right. But
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  Speaker 1: the most jarring transition happens in 1950. The Navy takes
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  Speaker 1: over and establishes the Underwater Sound Laboratory right on the point.
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  Speaker 1: And they operate there until 1990.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a 40-year run.
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  Speaker 1: We are talking about Highly classified Cold War sonar research
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  Speaker 1: and submarine tracking.
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  Speaker 2: And you know why they chose it? The Navy chose
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  Speaker 2: this site for the exact same reason Benedict Arnold did.
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  Speaker 1: The river.
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  Speaker 2: The unique properties of the Thames River. The deep, protected
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  Speaker 2: channel allowed engineers to develop and calibrate sensitive acoustic transducers
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  Speaker 2: and submarine communication gear safely away from the turbulent open ocean.
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  Speaker 1: They were literally writing the book on how to listen
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  Speaker 1: for Soviet submarines.
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  Speaker 2: They really were.
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  Speaker 1: But how do you reconcile that technology with the architecture?
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  Speaker 1: Like you have scientists in the 1960s trying to conduct
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  Speaker 1: cutting edge acoustic research while retrofitting miles of electrical cables
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  Speaker 1: through 19th century, three foot thick granite casemates.
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  Speaker 2: It sounds like an absolute logistical nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: It does. It's like an employee who survives five different
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: corporate buyouts over a century. by just constantly changing their
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  Speaker 1: job title, completely ignoring the fact that their office is
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  Speaker 1: a literal stone dungeon.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious and totally accurate. The retrofitting was notoriously difficult,
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  Speaker 2: but the geography was simply too valuable to abandon. And
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: this continuous chain of service is precisely what makes this
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  Speaker 2: site unique today. You aren't just visiting a static battlefield memorial.
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  Speaker 1: You're visiting a timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're walking a highly active working waterfront that just
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  Speaker 2: happened to have a 19th century fort Sitting in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The Egyptian revival fortifications eventually became incidental to the federal
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  Speaker 2: utility of the site.
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  Speaker 1: And this really brings us to the visitor center, because
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  Speaker 1: to truly digest this multi-century corporate resume we've been talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you have to look at how the park actively curates
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  Speaker 1: its own history.
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  Speaker 2: And they do it brilliantly.
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  Speaker 1: They really do. They don't do a traditional sprawling chronological
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: floor tour. The visitor center is actually housed in the
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: restored 1830s officers' quarters, and they laid the exhibits out
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  Speaker 1: as a vertical timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Right, which is a very deliberate curatorial choice that forces
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  Speaker 2: you to physically climb through the eras. You start on
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: the first floor, and you are immediately anchored in the
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: trauma of the 1781 attack. You examine the models, you
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: analyze the panels explaining Arnold's split landing, and you see
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  Speaker 2: the visual representations of the fire consuming New London.
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  Speaker 1: It really establishes the baseline violence of the point.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: But then you take the stairs to the second floor,
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  Speaker 1: and the narrative abruptly shifts. It covers New London's evolution
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  Speaker 1: as a maritime whaling city, carrying you right through the massive, sweaty,
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  Speaker 1: logistical effort of building the granite fort itself.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the brilliant part is that the windows on
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  Speaker 2: this second floor look right back out onto the harbor
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: you just learned about.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's such a great detail. It connects the historical
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: panels to the physical water. But then you keep climbing.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: You go to the third floor. And you suddenly step
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: out of the 19th century and directly into the Naval
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Sound Lab.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild. You are surrounded by anti-submarine equipment from
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: World War II deep into the Cold War.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: The physical ascent mirrors the technological leap from 18th century
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: muskets on the ground floor to 20th century sonar arrays
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: at the top.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? Well. To me, that
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: third floor is the real plot twist of the entire park.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: You walk into this classical building expecting a standard Revolutionary
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: War museum, but the architecture physically elevates the narrative to
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: prove that this point of land isn't solely a revolution stop.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: It really forces you to reconcile it all.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly. It forces you to reconcile Benedict Arnold's wooden ships
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: with Cold War nuclear submarines in the exact same breath.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: And that plot twist is entirely validated by the continuous
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: timeline we've just unpacked. You know, the site kept working.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: kept adapting and kept innovating long after the heavy seacoast
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: cannons became decorative lawn ornaments.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: The third floor is crucial because without it, you are
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: only listening to the loudest chapter of the history, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: you're completely missing the sustained hum of the working waterfront
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: that defined the point for the next 150 years.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Right, which became a state park in 2000. So now
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that you, the listener, understand the immense layered history stacked
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: onto this specific tollbooth of water... We need to provide
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the practical framework for how to actually experience it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Because it's not totally straightforward.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: No, this park operates on a very specific, slightly deceptive rhythm. Right.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: Visitors really need to understand that this is essentially a
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: seasonal interior museum disguised as a year-round state park.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Good point.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: The grounds themselves, like the sprawling lawns, the walk up
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: to the imposing exterior walls, the parking lot, that is
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: all free and open year-round. typically from 8 a.m. to sunset.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Right. And Louis points out in the text that walking
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: these grounds in the shoulder seasons, like late fall, is
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: incredibly rewarding.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I bet.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the crowds thin out, but the commanding view
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: of the harbor remains exactly the same.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: But the interior, the visitor center, which is talked about,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the guided fort tours, the ability to actually walk inside
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: those stone casemates, that is strictly a summer affair.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Strictly summer.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: It generally operates from Memorial Day to Labor Day. So
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: if you show up in November expecting to see the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: sonar lab, you're going to be staring at a locked
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: wooden door.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a bummer. However, there's one piece
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of the park that never closes. The fishing pier.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, right. And the fishing pier is not a recreational afterthought,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: by the way. It is how a massive portion of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the local New London community actually engages with the park's
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: geography today.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: It has 24-hour access, heavy-duty lighting, and built-in pole holders.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: People are out there at 2 in the morning pulling
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: in striped bass and bluefish right at the mouth of
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the Thames.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: That's awesome.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: And the historical resonance of that pier is striking. If
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you were standing out there casting a line, you were
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: looking at the exact same currents, the exact same tide,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and the exact same waters that Benedict Arnold's transports used
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: to launch their devastating assault.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The shoreline has been paved, but the water mechanics
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: haven't changed a bit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: And understanding those mechanics brings us to the crucial pairing
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: for your visit. Because if you are traveling here specifically
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to understand the tragedy and the tactics of the 1781 story,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: your mandatory second stop is taking the summer water taxi,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: the Thames River Heritage Park boat, straight across the river
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: to Fort Griswold in Groton.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. Please do not make the mistake of pairing this
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: trip with a visit to the Mystic Seaport or Gillette
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Castle on the same afternoon. No.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: You have to do Griswold.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Right. If you want the full, unvarnished story of Arnold's raid,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you must treat the two forts as an inseparable pair.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: They physically faced each other across the channel on that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: September morning.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: You have to see both sides.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: You really do. You have to stand on the New
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: London Bank to see where the defense collapsed. And then
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you have to stand on the Groton Bank to understand
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the horrific cost of holding the line.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And this raises an important question, though, about how
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: we navigate these heavily layered historical environments. Because, you know,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: we tend to gravitate toward the massive, the imposing, and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the aesthetically loud.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know exactly where you were going with this.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: We are back to the 1794 blockhouse.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yes. Think about the finical reality of that small blockhouse
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: for a second. It is the absolute oldest piece of
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: architecture on the property.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Right. The only survivor. Yeah.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: It is the only stone that was actually quarried, laid,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and utilized by Arnold's contemporaries and the citizens of the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: early American Republic. It is the true, authentic, foundational anchor
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: of everything that happened after the revolution.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it is small, gray, completely unassuming, and, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: lacks towering lotus columns. Yeah. It is incredibly easy to
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: just walk right past it on your way to marvel
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: at the giant Egyptian revival 1839 Pentagon looming behind it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: It really is. And it challenges you to ask a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: question that stretches far beyond the Thames River.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: In our own lives, how often do we walk right
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: past the most authentic, foundational pieces of history... or even
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: the foundational truth of our own personal experiences, simply because
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: a newer, louder, more massive monument has been constructed right
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: behind it.