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Winston Peters: NZ First leader raises concerns with proposed FTA with India · The SME Stream

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  Speaker 1: Now the stats between Winston Peters and the National Party
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  Speaker 1: over the India Free Trade Deal has deepened. Trade Minister
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  Speaker 1: Todd McLay has revealed Winston Peters pulled his support before
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  Speaker 1: he'd even seen the final office. So let's talk to him,
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  Speaker 1: of course. New Zealand First Leader Winston Peters Winston, Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: how are you? And well thank you? So, as Todd right,
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  Speaker 1: we pulled.
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  Speaker 2: The deal when we knew what it was going to
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  Speaker 2: be signed up to the moment we found that out
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  Speaker 2: and we said we can't support that. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: pulling the deal. We were saying, So you're meant to
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  Speaker 2: be in a free trade deal negotiation. Now you've got
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  Speaker 2: an immigration deal negotiation and we're not happy with it.
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  Speaker 1: So what was the date do you remember roughly when
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  Speaker 1: you pulled the deal?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this last ye week, remember that exactly. My team
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  Speaker 2: were talking about it. We know the exactly, it's all diarized.
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  Speaker 2: We sent a note and to make sure that it
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  Speaker 2: was no mistake.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And so you're saying you actually knew the details
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  Speaker 1: of the deal when you pulled your support. You knew
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  Speaker 1: what we were signing up for.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And specifically.
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  Speaker 2: That's because we were kept. We had to be kept
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  Speaker 2: the breast of it. I've been to India myself. I
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  Speaker 2: talked to him from the very beginning and you know
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  Speaker 2: we were talking about a immigration a trade deal and
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  Speaker 2: it is not being substantial an immigration deal. Don't believe me.
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  Speaker 2: See what go we are the Prevalent Minister to McLay
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  Speaker 2: and what MONI, the Prime Minister, are saying, and are
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  Speaker 2: we saying that they're not telling the truth. That's the
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  Speaker 2: point here.
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  Speaker 1: So your primary problem is the migration aspect. Is it
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  Speaker 1: too many arrivals?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it could be twenty thousand plus in any given time.
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  Speaker 2: That's the point. Now I've heard that mister mcclay's appearance
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  Speaker 2: at the Select Committee today and in the ear he
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  Speaker 2: had to concede that there were those people who had
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  Speaker 2: the right to bring their spousers and their children right away.
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  Speaker 2: Right away here comes one person, modify the spouse and
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  Speaker 2: the toilad you go to twenty twenty five thousand just
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  Speaker 2: like that, and easy onors are not being.
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  Speaker 1: Told that is it all five thousand of these potential
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  Speaker 1: arrivals who can bring family?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Because here's the point again, it was said at
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  Speaker 2: the ele committee. But we have uncapped student and we're
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  Speaker 2: coming to young now, yeah, use for export education. It's uncapped.
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  Speaker 2: But they're coming and their economy and their parents are
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  Speaker 2: paying for their education in New Zealand. What's happening here
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  Speaker 2: is in the economy is paying for the education. That's
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  Speaker 2: why they can get twenty hours, That's why they've got
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  Speaker 2: to get three more years to work. The New zeal
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  Speaker 2: economy is going to be paying for the education, and
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  Speaker 2: that is not export education.
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  Speaker 1: But but I mean these people are coming to work
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  Speaker 1: in parts of the economy where we have skill shortages.
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  Speaker 1: So there is a benefit to us.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, seriously shares yoga teachers, natural
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  Speaker 2: medicine practitioners.
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  Speaker 1: That's only two hundred of them. That's only two hundred
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  Speaker 1: out of five thousand.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you understand.
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  Speaker 1: That's stillful. But isn't that workers that we need?
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  Speaker 2: Can I tell you you need to understand what's going
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  Speaker 2: on in immigration now? The number of the roads that
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  Speaker 2: have been pulled a form in some ways, it's been
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  Speaker 2: a form of slavery. There people coming here to get education,
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  Speaker 2: but they are not ever going to be educated because
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  Speaker 2: the purpose of there to coming here is to work
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  Speaker 2: and all sorts of jobs and under the radar, so
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  Speaker 2: to speak, and not being paid properly. It isn't it
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  Speaker 2: shopping and diving on is in. I know this because
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it, and I know nothing.
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  Speaker 1: But Winston, you are changing the subject here. Am I
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  Speaker 1: not right that those occupations that you just listed only
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  Speaker 1: account for two hundred of the five thousand workers that
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  Speaker 1: are coming here. Four eight hundred are in skill areas
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  Speaker 1: where we have skill shortages.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, we don't have skill shortage in the
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  Speaker 2: context that they're saying. Because if we did, why didn't
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  Speaker 2: we offer that to China? Why didn't we offer that
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  Speaker 2: to other countries?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's important to the Indians, it's what they wanted.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, excuse me. Look, we have been waiting
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  Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty five when Mike Moore took a delegation
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  Speaker 2: there for a free trade deal, and then we've got
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  Speaker 2: a promise we're going to get one more than three
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  Speaker 2: years and within twenty one months we've signed up to
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  Speaker 2: something without doing the work and without telling the public. Question,
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  Speaker 2: has any journalist or any immedia person seen this deal?
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  Speaker 2: And if not, why not?
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  Speaker 1: Well answer the question for me.
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  Speaker 2: Why not, well, because they cannot appare to disclose it
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  Speaker 2: at this point in time. They are saying that they've
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  Speaker 2: got legal work working on to make sure it means
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  Speaker 2: what we greet it means. Excuse me, that can't be true.
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  Speaker 2: Ask Kipkins, have you been asked and have you beat?
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the deal? Yes or no? Because the
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  Speaker 2: youths have you seen the deal? Why haven't you seen
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  Speaker 2: the deal? Why haven't your listeners heard about it? Something
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  Speaker 2: is going off me wrong here now. I don't mean
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  Speaker 2: to be difficult about it, but I said from the
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  Speaker 2: word goo that I'll do my best to help the
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  Speaker 2: steal over the line, but it's got to be a
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  Speaker 2: trade deal.
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  Speaker 1: Winston listen, thank you very much, always appreciate your time.
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