Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Mount Isa Mayor Danielle Slade says about three carloads of NT residents are arriving in the town each day searching for grog
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now we have heard reports of territorials flocking across the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Queensland border to access grog in Mount iSER following the
- 0:06Speaker 1: reintroduction of alcohol bands. Joining me on the line right
- 0:10Speaker 1: now to tell us a little bit more about what
- 0:12Speaker 1: is happening down the road is the mayor of Mount iSER,
- 0:15Speaker 1: Danny L.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Slade. Good morning to you, Good morning Katie, thank you. Yeah, look,
- 0:21Speaker 2: I'm happy to chat about this. We've seen probably keiter
- 0:25Speaker 2: three cars a day turn up from the Northern Territory
- 0:29Speaker 2: and pretty much going straight into our Lockhart River. We
- 0:33Speaker 2: do have an agency down there that does meals for
- 0:38Speaker 2: homeless yea. And what was happening is we always had
- 0:42Speaker 2: around forty people down there and a lot of times
- 0:45Speaker 2: they were coming from Queensland drive communities and getting stuck here. Yeah.
- 0:50Speaker 2: But what we've seen in the last eighteen months is
- 0:54Speaker 2: a rise in people coming from Northern Territory due to
- 0:57Speaker 2: a bushbus coming on a red basis. So those numbers
- 1:02Speaker 2: rose to about one hundred and fifty in the Lighthart River.
- 1:06Speaker 2: In the river there the light Heart that's where our
- 1:09Speaker 2: water source. And now I talked to the agency this
- 1:13Speaker 2: morning and since about thirty for January, we're up to
- 1:17Speaker 2: five hundred and sixty nine people down there. What so
- 1:21Speaker 2: that's it's very difficult from our niser because we just
- 1:25Speaker 2: were under resourced for the amount of people coming in.
- 1:29Speaker 2: It's a burden on the police, the ambulance, the health
- 1:33Speaker 2: and the antisocial behavior that's coming in with that. So
- 1:37Speaker 2: it's evident because two of our bottle shops are in
- 1:41Speaker 2: the CBD, so about around ten o'clock every morning, we're
- 1:45Speaker 2: seeing just large amounts of people coming in and waiting
- 1:48Speaker 2: for the bottle shops open.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Goodness, may I mean that is that's a huge increase.
- 1:54Speaker 1: As you've said, there would ordinarily be around forty after
- 1:57Speaker 1: the last day saying months gone up to maybe a
- 1:59Speaker 1: hud and fifty and then since January this year it's
- 2:03Speaker 1: gone right up to more than five hundred people.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I'm still coming and they're coming along in unregistered old vehicles, overcrowded,
- 2:14Speaker 2: and they're reporting. The lay I spoke to this morning
- 2:18Speaker 2: said it's at least one car a day, if not
- 2:21Speaker 2: two or three.
- 2:23Speaker 1: Wow. And how do you know that they are coming
- 2:25Speaker 1: from the Northern Territory at this point, Danielle, Well.
- 2:29Speaker 2: The agency on the ground, they provide breakfast, lunch and dinner,
- 2:33Speaker 2: and so they do have a good chat to who
- 2:36Speaker 2: you're coming to the agency to get the services. So
- 2:41Speaker 2: the the bus that is coming back with them forwards
- 2:45Speaker 2: from Alice Springs, they're actually stopping off in places like
- 2:48Speaker 2: Heart Range, Bonyad Eagle, Great Eagle, Beak is it, Alice Springs,
- 2:52Speaker 2: Tenant Creek and then pretty much just dropping them straight
- 2:55Speaker 2: into Burke Street, which is the Leichhart River, and they're
- 2:58Speaker 2: almost stranded here. Goodness, Yeah, it's quite concerning.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Danielle, can I just ask you have you had
- 3:07Speaker 1: any influx? Like over the last couple of weeks, We've
- 3:09Speaker 1: obviously had some fairly strict alcohol restrictions put into place
- 3:13Speaker 1: in Alice Springs. Have you seen much of a difference
- 3:16Speaker 1: just in the last couple of weeks or the last
- 3:18Speaker 1: week or so?
- 3:20Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I was actually coming back from dropping my
- 3:25Speaker 2: kids at school yesterday morning and there would have been
- 3:28Speaker 2: fifty people walking into CBD around nine o'clock and they
- 3:33Speaker 2: were walking up to access alcohol for when the bottle
- 3:37Speaker 2: shops open. So this is I normally see, and we've
- 3:44Speaker 2: had some rain, so we were people were noticing large
- 3:48Speaker 2: number of people gathering under shop warnings and around the
- 3:52Speaker 2: council buildings and yeah, and definitely down in the riverbed.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Dannielle, can you tell me what kind of impact is
- 4:00Speaker 1: this having on mounta Eser at the moment.
- 4:05Speaker 2: It's a huge impact because we're seeing the police are
- 4:09Speaker 2: al going out for DV calls and the ambulance as well,
- 4:16Speaker 2: so that I'm told that there are just that it's NonStop.
- 4:20Speaker 2: The health system it's being very overburned at the moment
- 4:24Speaker 2: as well. I think the antisocial behavior and the rubbish
- 4:28Speaker 2: is one thing that's really hard to describe. But the
- 4:33Speaker 2: rubbish that's now accumulating in the Leikehart River, which is
- 4:36Speaker 2: water supply, is incredible. It's it's yeah, it's really incredible
- 4:43Speaker 2: the amount of rubbish that's accumulating human waste. Yeah, so
- 4:48Speaker 2: we're really noticing it in especially in the last couple
- 4:52Speaker 2: of weeks.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Yeah, And what kind of work is the council having
- 4:55Speaker 1: to do to, you know, to try and grapple with that.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Well, the cleanups themselves are horrendous and they cost us
- 5:03Speaker 2: about thirty five thousand for every cleanup. A lot of
- 5:06Speaker 2: times we have to trick the employees into we don't
- 5:09Speaker 2: tell them we've got to clean up until the day.
- 5:13Speaker 2: They'll try and blow the day because it's such an
- 5:14Speaker 2: awful job. So it is a big burden on the
- 5:19Speaker 2: rappayers of man iSER because that's thirty five thousand dollars
- 5:21Speaker 2: I could be giving to a sporting group or a
- 5:24Speaker 2: charity and instead we're cleaning up the rubbish of people
- 5:27Speaker 2: who don't live here now.
- 5:30Speaker 1: There obviously, does it appear to you as the coming
- 5:34Speaker 1: to Mount Aser to access alcohol?
- 5:37Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, I think they. Prior to what's happening now,
- 5:44Speaker 2: I would have said that people were coming into man
- 5:46Speaker 2: iSER for health court and other reasons and then maybe
- 5:50Speaker 2: getting stranded here or not leaving. But this at the
- 5:55Speaker 2: moment is definitely people coming here just to access alcohol.
- 5:59Speaker 2: And you know, by lunchtime there are so many people
- 6:04Speaker 2: very drunk and towards la like ut River. So one
- 6:08Speaker 2: of the things I've done, especially when I heard about
- 6:12Speaker 2: the announcement, is I've put out an announcement to my
- 6:14Speaker 2: community saying I have a zero tolerance to any social behavior.
- 6:19Speaker 2: So if you see people drinking in public, ring.
- 6:22Speaker 1: The police and Danielle, can you talk us through from
- 6:25Speaker 1: Ount Eyes's perspective, because obviously, you know, things are I'm
- 6:28Speaker 1: assuming probably fairly similar in own eyes, and some of
- 6:31Speaker 1: the issues you guys have got are probably fairly similar
- 6:34Speaker 1: to what we've got up here in Darwin and also
- 6:36Speaker 1: in our springs. Are you finding, like, is that public
- 6:42Speaker 1: drunkenness and that anti social behavior, is it being tolerated?
- 6:47Speaker 1: What's the response from the community, what's the response from
- 6:50Speaker 1: the police.
- 6:52Speaker 2: That's a good question. And I think, you know, because
- 6:54Speaker 2: before it was low numbers, it was tolerated. You know,
- 6:58Speaker 2: I think we all tolerated it because we felt for
- 7:01Speaker 2: the people who are you know, it's a wretched life.
- 7:04Speaker 2: But now with the numbers swelling to you know, up
- 7:07Speaker 2: to five hundred now five hundred and sixty nine, which
- 7:10Speaker 2: is incredible, I don't believe we can tolerate it. And
- 7:14Speaker 2: the other burden that's happening is the people who are
- 7:18Speaker 2: flocking here for alcohol are also going over to friends
- 7:21Speaker 2: and family and social housing and overcrowding there. And we're
- 7:26Speaker 2: noticing that there's an influx of partying happening, which is
- 7:30Speaker 2: actually driving the youth onto the streets because that these
- 7:35Speaker 2: parties are going all night and there's big crowds and
- 7:38Speaker 2: a lot of uncle people. So it's something I've been
- 7:42Speaker 2: reaching out to the Queensland State government about and we're
- 7:47Speaker 2: putting a plan together as a council at this moment
- 7:49Speaker 2: to try and put together what the issues are, what
- 7:53Speaker 2: the impacts are, and we want to go with some
- 7:55Speaker 2: solutions to the state government and indeed the federal government.
- 7:59Speaker 2: And I really believe that what's happening in Alice Springs
- 8:02Speaker 2: and man Is needs a whole of government approach, local,
- 8:05Speaker 2: state and federal. I take my hat off to the
- 8:10Speaker 2: mayor of Alice Springs. I think he was very brave
- 8:13Speaker 2: to do what he did and he's got my admiration
- 8:16Speaker 2: for standing up for his city. And the other thing
- 8:20Speaker 2: I note is that social housing. Alice Springs and Mount
- 8:24Speaker 2: Isa probably have double the social housing than any other
- 8:28Speaker 2: city well in Queensland anyway. So when you think about
- 8:33Speaker 2: the resources you need and housing tend to give pride
- 8:37Speaker 2: to people in domestic violent situations. And a lot of
- 8:39Speaker 2: times if you're in the domestic violent situation, you're in trauma,
- 8:43Speaker 2: and you try getting a child psychologist or a psychologist
- 8:47Speaker 2: or any those wrap around supports you need. In communities
- 8:50Speaker 2: like Mount is I can't speak other Springs. So my
- 8:54Speaker 2: son's already on a two year waiting list for speech
- 8:57Speaker 2: therapist and he's been on our way left for twelve
- 9:01Speaker 2: months for an OT. So you imagine if you child's
- 9:03Speaker 2: got FAZ or any the disabilities, we're just not equipped
- 9:08Speaker 2: to deal with that. So I think the social housing
- 9:12Speaker 2: numbers may be out of portion with the rest of
- 9:14Speaker 2: the cities in the state and maybe in Australia. So
- 9:17Speaker 2: that's a big burden on places like Mount Issa. And
- 9:22Speaker 2: we are a mining city. You know, a lot of
- 9:25Speaker 2: the reason we're here is because of the mine and
- 9:27Speaker 2: we you know, we need to keep the place liverable.
- 9:30Speaker 1: You do well, you know I grew up in Mount Isa.
- 9:33Speaker 1: You do need to play keep the place livable. And
- 9:36Speaker 1: I know that the people who live there are wonderful.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Same as the situation in Alice Springs. You've got so
- 9:42Speaker 1: many great people, but it's really hard when you're grappling
- 9:44Speaker 1: with what's going on. Danielle, can I just ask you
- 9:47Speaker 1: before I let you go, have you got any plans
- 9:49Speaker 1: to sort of liaise with the Northern Territory government at
- 9:52Speaker 1: this point in time as well in relation to what's
- 9:55Speaker 1: going on, particularly with the number of people that have
- 9:58Speaker 1: crossed the border.
- 10:01Speaker 2: I actually have been liaising with the Northern Territory government
- 10:04Speaker 2: prior to this, prior to the announcement. But the difference
- 10:09Speaker 2: is in Queensland we have different alcohol laws to what
- 10:16Speaker 2: the Territory has with their restrictions, and you can actually
- 10:19Speaker 2: buy alcohol in Manuser without showing IDs. You don't have
- 10:24Speaker 2: to show an address and so there's no accountability there.
- 10:28Speaker 2: So that's one of the impacts. And we don't have
- 10:30Speaker 2: the restrictions that the Northern Territory have. So if we
- 10:33Speaker 2: were to bring in the same restrictions in Manuser, you
- 10:36Speaker 2: find that then everyone would start driving past Manoneuser and
- 10:40Speaker 2: heading to Chunsel and so on. So I don't know
- 10:44Speaker 2: if alcohol restrictions are the answer.
- 10:48Speaker 1: It's really tough, it's really tough going. I'm not actually
- 10:54Speaker 1: overly surprised to hear what you've said this morning. I
- 10:56Speaker 1: am surprised to hear just how many people are now
- 11:00Speaker 1: you know, living rough in the Leichhart River. Danielle. I
- 11:04Speaker 1: really appreciate your having a chat with us this morning
- 11:06Speaker 1: and just giving us a bit of context and letting
- 11:08Speaker 1: us know what's going on in Mount iSER as well,
- 11:11Speaker 1: and the onflow of those alcohol restrictions to other locations.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and I'm glad you've given me the
- 11:18Speaker 2: opportunity just to speak out. And you know, I think
- 11:22Speaker 2: people need to consider when you make decisions what the
- 11:25Speaker 2: possible flow on effects can be. Yeah.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Well, Danielle, thanks so much. Please keep in contact. We'll
- 11:31Speaker 1: keep in contact with you as well. It's been great
- 11:33Speaker 1: to speak to you today.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Thank you have a good one.