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Is ODI cricket dying & will Australia's poor form hurt them against India? Shane Lee chats life, cricket & music · The Follow-On

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Fox Cricket's podcast
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Speaker 1: The Follow On. My name is Courtney Walsh and today
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Speaker 1: we're joined by former Australian all arounder Shane Lee for
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Speaker 1: a chat that I'm really looking forward to as we
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Speaker 1: discuss cricket, music and life. Shane played forty five One
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Speaker 1: Day Internationals for Australia and secured forty eight wickets at
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Speaker 1: an average of twenty five while also contributing almost five
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Speaker 1: hundred runs with the bat. He enjoyed a seller first
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Speaker 1: class career with New South Wales as well, and he's
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Speaker 1: the older brother of Fox Cricket analyst and former Australian
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Speaker 1: star Brett Lee. From next Monday on KO Sports and
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Speaker 1: Fox Cricket, viewers will get the chance to catch the
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Speaker 1: Lee brothers and their great mates Gavin Robinson, Richard Cheekwe
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Speaker 1: and Bred McNamara, who were all outstanding cricketers in their
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Speaker 1: own right in the documentary discussing their second love as
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Speaker 1: members of the band Six and Out. But firstly they've
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Speaker 1: got a big summity gum, so we'll catch up with
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Speaker 1: Shane now. Shane, welcome to the program. We'd love to
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Speaker 1: ask you what is Shane Lee up to now. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure Australian cricket lovers and also those around the world
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Speaker 1: would love to know more about what you're up to.
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Speaker 2: Well, first, Courtney, it's a lot less intimidating sitting across
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Speaker 2: from this, Courtney Welsh.
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Speaker 3: You're not the one that I facing it.
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Speaker 2: In the nineteen nineties for the West Indies. So it's
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Speaker 2: nice to see your face, mate. But lots going on
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Speaker 2: in my life mate. I've always been bid in the
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Speaker 2: media space past creat I co founded a company Caught Insight.
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Speaker 2: We were produced on media buyers and planners. We owned
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Speaker 2: a public relations firm as well, and we saw that
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Speaker 2: quite a few years ago to Harold Mitchell. So since
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Speaker 2: enso been consulting in the media tech space. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: playing in the band and a father of three mates, so.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty busy man.
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Speaker 1: When we had a chat yesterday, just briefly before this,
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Speaker 1: I think you're off to a nice lunch. You're about
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Speaker 1: to enjoy a good bottle of red. That's part of
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Speaker 1: your business, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: That's what you do. It sounds like a dream job
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Speaker 4: to me.
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Speaker 1: Been able to get out there and talk to people
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Speaker 1: entertained in some very fine red wines and some of
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Speaker 1: the finest food available in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, my three passions in life always been sport,
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Speaker 2: music and business. I'll say four passions lunch. I don't
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Speaker 2: want to go lunch, and so I started a podcast
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Speaker 2: called Lunch with Lee, which was very the best few podcasts,
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Speaker 2: and ituned of Spotify about three years ago. But since
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Speaker 2: then I've been traveling around interviewing people from those three
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Speaker 2: walks of life. I've had everyone from Gladsbury articularly on
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Speaker 2: the podcast, through to Robbie Williams and am Monico. So yeah, mate,
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Speaker 2: it's one of my wife says what are you doing today?
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Speaker 2: And I said, I'm going to work, I'm going to lunch.
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Speaker 2: She looks to be quite funny, but it's going on.
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Speaker 2: And I've always been curious in other people and interests,
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Speaker 2: and so yeah, that the podcast format is a really,
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Speaker 2: really good format for me.
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Speaker 1: Who had the who had the sound of words of advice?
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Speaker 1: Was it Robbie Williams or was it Gladys Who did
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Speaker 1: you prefer to interview that?
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Speaker 2: I loved them both for different reasons. I thought Glass
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Speaker 2: was very sweet. I thought you did a fantastic job
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Speaker 2: during COVID. But Robbie Williams, I said Tom on the
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Speaker 2: podcast he's probably the best modern day performer. And then
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Speaker 2: during the podcast you had that sort of turning the
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Speaker 2: tables around starting interviewing me a little bit. So it
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Speaker 2: was it was a really really it was a nice
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Speaker 2: discussion both real people, and you can really find that
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Speaker 2: in new interview someone whether they're putting on a front
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Speaker 2: or night. But those two in particularly I thought they
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Speaker 2: had They're very charismatic and had a lot of the
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Speaker 2: things to say that were very personable.
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Speaker 1: And by rob Williams were of course referring to the
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Speaker 1: former well not the former but the English pop star
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Speaker 1: and Cladys burgically in the former New South Wales premiere.
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Speaker 1: I've got a question for you when we talk about
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Speaker 1: your love of food, but your love of cricket, your
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Speaker 1: love of life and your love of music. What came
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Speaker 1: first for you? Was it cricket into music and what
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Speaker 1: was the bigger passion for Youelly?
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Speaker 3: Cricket?
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Speaker 2: Growing up, my mum played the piano, so we would
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Speaker 2: sit around, myself and my two brothers, bred my younger
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Speaker 2: brother Grant would sit around and mum would be playing
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Speaker 2: a swany river on the piano.
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Speaker 3: We'd be singing as young kids, so music was always
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Speaker 3: in our life.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, for a real young age, I found a
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Speaker 2: real passion with ball sports.
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Speaker 3: I love soccer, football, basketball.
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Speaker 2: And in summer it was cricket for me and that
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Speaker 2: turned out to be a game that I was best at.
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Speaker 2: And luckily I had two younger brothers that could bowl
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Speaker 2: to me all afternoon pretty much from the time we
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Speaker 2: got home from school until Mum said come in it
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Speaker 2: was bath time. Yeah, really really good fun memories growing
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Speaker 2: up down the South Coast and having a young fast
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Speaker 2: ball of bread.
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Speaker 3: There's always good practice in the backyard.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, when you are sitting in
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Speaker 1: that backyard and the conditions obviously in the new south
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Speaker 1: Well South Coast are conducive to cricket, but you also
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Speaker 1: get some storms coming through when you're facing in the backyard.
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Speaker 1: Was he getting them to rear up into your ribs?
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Speaker 1: Did you wear a few blows from him as a younger?
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Speaker 1: As a younger, I suppose Shane Lee? And conversely, did
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Speaker 1: you give him a little bit of stick back?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I did, mate.
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Speaker 2: I think I got in the backyard when I was
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Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty four and then I bulb bred
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Speaker 2: out about second ball. I went inside. Brett was crying
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Speaker 2: and Mum, Dan, Miss Mackison, go and bald your brother
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Speaker 2: who was just bold you for four hours.
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Speaker 3: So I did that.
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Speaker 2: I think I'm not going back for twelve and the
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Speaker 2: seven innings. But it was always good fun.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gave. He gave as good as as he got.
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Speaker 3: He was always always had.
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Speaker 2: A beautiful action from a young age, very very rhythmical
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Speaker 2: and very strong. If anyone had to bowl, I think
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Speaker 2: Brett by one hundred and fifty clips now for nearly
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Speaker 2: twenty years.
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Speaker 3: He's a tremendous athlete.
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Speaker 4: Even now.
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Speaker 1: I just before we get to I suppose your music
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Speaker 1: career and your own career. Brett plain in Birmingham in July,
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Speaker 1: and I think more than held his ownly and clearly
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Speaker 1: was the fittest guy around. Do you do you there's
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Speaker 1: a life eating fine food and read keep you as
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Speaker 1: fit as what bread is at the moment? Or I
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Speaker 1: think you had some kne injuries at the tailing of
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Speaker 1: your career. Is it harder for you to get out
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Speaker 1: there and bowl yourself?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 2: I can't buying more. I played a game for the
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Speaker 2: Masters play for the Act. Last weekend we played against Victoria.
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Speaker 2: I won't tell you how I went because it wasn't
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Speaker 2: very good, but the guy I still love the game.
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Speaker 2: My son now is nine, Thomas, who really knew his cricket.
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Speaker 2: So we're playing a lot of backyard crew at the moment.
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Speaker 2: But the old taped up tennis ball, so many of
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Speaker 2: the things that I was doing with both my brothers
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Speaker 2: many moons ago down there in e flat, so I'm
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Speaker 2: now sort of reliving with my with my son Thomas's nine.
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Speaker 3: Lovely.
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Speaker 1: That does sound like the generation and it's one of
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Speaker 1: those things that Australians love, and we know cricket lovers
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Speaker 1: around the world love though the cricket ball with the tape.
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Speaker 1: There's leagues in Pakistani that we've seen last week on
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Speaker 1: the ODA coverage and it really can sharpen your skills.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 2: We always used to cut the sort of the edges
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Speaker 2: off the bat so they were quite thin. We take
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Speaker 2: up the tennis ball so you could swing it both
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Speaker 2: ways and then pretty much like Bradman used to do
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Speaker 2: with a cricket stuff with a golf ball against corrugated
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Speaker 2: eye and tank. We're sort of do excember things, trying
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Speaker 2: to make it harder for ourselves at the backyard, so
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Speaker 2: when you finally went into the middle, it was a
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Speaker 2: lot easier. But yeah, and I suppose I out of
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Speaker 2: playing all those times in the backyard, six and out
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Speaker 2: was a name born to our band. They were currently
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Speaker 2: going to Victoria around with.
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Speaker 3: It's exciting.
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Speaker 1: Well, and that's part of the reason we're talking to
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Speaker 1: you today. The second innings six and out. There's a
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Speaker 1: doc o series documentary series that we screened on Fox
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Speaker 1: Sports and on KO Sports after the ODI next Monday, sorry,
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Speaker 1: the T twenty next Monday in Hobart and leading into
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Speaker 1: the border Gavisca Trophy which really looking forward to. And
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Speaker 1: I've seen a few clips there. But it strikes me
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about six and out. It strikes
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Speaker 1: me that there's a lot of similarities in cricket to
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Speaker 1: music in that you sit around into the locker room,
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Speaker 1: or you sit around the bandroom or the garage, you tinker,
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Speaker 1: you try to find your best. You might be shining
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Speaker 1: the ball and trying to get the best of it.
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Speaker 1: You're also tuning some strings, etc.
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Speaker 4: What was it about cricket and also in music that
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Speaker 4: made you so drawn to both.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think over the years, I always found it
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Speaker 2: quite interesting that all the sports and want to be
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Speaker 2: rock stars, and all the rock stars wanted to be.
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Speaker 3: Sportsmen, And it's almost like an opposite. It's attract there.
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Speaker 2: To be really really good at sport, you have to
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Speaker 2: be somewhat unemotional, and by that I mean you have
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Speaker 2: to be able to do what you do day in
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Speaker 2: day out. So whether it's you know, you're having trouble
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Speaker 2: at home, you're having trouble with the selectors, you're not
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Speaker 2: scoring many rounds, you have to go out and do
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Speaker 2: your job, no matter What's that sort of an unemotional
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Speaker 2: sort of state of mind. Where to be really good
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Speaker 2: at the arts music you have to Italian emotionally. You
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Speaker 2: go out and put a show one you're playing in
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Speaker 2: front of a group of people.
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Speaker 3: You can't be within yourself. You've got to be tailor giving.
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Speaker 2: So it's a bit of an opposite's attract But yeah,
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Speaker 2: music for us, and we've got very very lucky to
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Speaker 2: have played a career. And you said, well, so you know,
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Speaker 2: thirteen years I think it was, and Mat it's a
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Speaker 2: really really good friend. But out of that to have
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Speaker 2: forward mates, one of them being my brother and Brad McNamara,
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Speaker 2: Richard Chief when Garvia Robinson and for us to be
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Speaker 2: playing twenty five years now as a band, it's pretty amazing.
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Speaker 3: And we always sort of made excuses probably over.
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Speaker 2: The last x amount of years, and while we couldn't
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Speaker 2: play live, sort of gotten the wave things. And then
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Speaker 2: when Gavin Pattie was diagnamed with brain cancer, we thought
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Speaker 2: we sort of sat back and thought, you, our life's
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Speaker 2: too short. We're sitting on something that's really really precious
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Speaker 2: to us.
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Speaker 3: We might not be the.
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Speaker 2: Greatest band in the world when we started, but we're
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Speaker 2: fantastic pub band now.
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Speaker 3: A little bit more of that.
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Speaker 2: I think we've got a good show and we thought, look,
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Speaker 2: we're sort of wasting our opportunities here, let's get out
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Speaker 2: and play. We did that last year and we absolutely
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Speaker 2: loved it. Quite we're now this year we're doing Australian tour.
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Speaker 2: We playing at every Test match venue pretty much after
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Speaker 2: day one. So go on to the six and Out
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Speaker 2: official Instagram site and you'll see where we're playing, guys
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Speaker 2: and come check us out.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be a knight of rock and roll.
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Speaker 3: It's going to be great fun.
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Speaker 1: It was a real pleasure last year talking to your
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Speaker 1: to the five of you leading into your come back
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Speaker 1: to your I suppose and as we say this is
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Speaker 1: the second year is coming up. What struck me was
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Speaker 1: the matshift that you all had for each other, the care.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about mental health. Understandably, you
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Speaker 1: guys in their forties and fifties can have some times
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Speaker 1: overbearing or overwhelming sort of feelings. But with Gab having
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Speaker 1: that issue, a former outstanding bowler, rally around to help
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Speaker 1: each other, what lessons did you sort of learn through
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Speaker 1: that period with each other.
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Speaker 2: Well, it makes you realize how close you are to you,
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Speaker 2: what we are to each other, and how much we
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Speaker 2: mean to each other. We're always tired as cricketers, but
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Speaker 2: I think when you spend so much time they're not
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Speaker 2: only on the cricket field but in the change room,
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Speaker 2: but they're now I suppose the music rehearsal rooms and
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Speaker 2: going on two together, you learn a lot about each other.
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Speaker 2: We know each other probably better than some of our
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Speaker 2: family members do in a.
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Speaker 3: Lot of ways. So yeah, it's really really special.
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Speaker 2: And when Gavin got the horrible news and the way
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Speaker 2: that he's dealt with that personally, it's been that's taught
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Speaker 2: me a lot, only about Gavin, but about myself.
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Speaker 3: You know what has really really important to you?
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Speaker 2: And when it comes down to it, it's your family
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Speaker 2: and friends that are the most important thing. The crickets
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Speaker 2: that they go, the World Cups that you played in,
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Speaker 2: they go. It's just it's a photo on the wall now,
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Speaker 2: but the true things of life are your friends and
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Speaker 2: family that mean the most.
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Speaker 1: Just having to look through a few clips from the series,
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Speaker 1: Sikham and we see Steve Wore sort of talking to you.
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Speaker 1: Obviously had the joy of playing alongside Steve, who was
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Speaker 1: an outstding cricketer. Who are the best musicians that jumped
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Speaker 1: up on stage with you, through you, through what's now
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Speaker 1: continuing on into a into a third decade, I suppose
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Speaker 1: of a fourth decade of six and out.
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Speaker 4: Who are some of the best musicians you've played with?
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Speaker 2: And why, oh a lot a lot of guys with
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Speaker 2: jam with We got to record a song. We wrote
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Speaker 2: a song called bring It On. This is off our
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Speaker 2: second ADP, which got Nis and sang from the Angels.
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Speaker 2: It was fantastic. Dave Gleason. We also wrote a song
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Speaker 2: called Totally Average that Dave Gleason sing the vocals on.
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Speaker 2: You can you can check out those both on YouTube,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, just those two in particular. Gavin Robertson is
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Speaker 2: actually a fantastic musician his own right. No only a
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Speaker 2: very very good spin ball for Australia, but he's drum
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Speaker 2: with the Angels in recent years.
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Speaker 3: He's a proper musician. So yeah, they sort of three
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Speaker 3: stick out.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we've been lucky to meet Garth Porter and
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Speaker 2: Darrell browth Waite and he sort of guys and Jimmy
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Speaker 2: Barnes just just through cricket and then loving cricket has
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Speaker 2: allowed us to jam with some of.
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Speaker 3: These guys over the years. The big one for me.
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Speaker 2: That a lot of people won't know here in Australia
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Speaker 2: a guy called Chris Thomas. Chris Thomas, it's probably five
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Speaker 2: record producers of all time produced the Beatles White Album,
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Speaker 2: The Sex Festivals in excess. Elton John and I've got
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Speaker 2: to just Wikipedia page the other day because I know pretty
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Speaker 2: well now and I was going to change it for
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Speaker 2: six hour in there, but someone took it down pretty quickly.
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Speaker 1: I wish that you might draw a bit of traffic
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Speaker 1: there that would be even better. And it's interesting when
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Speaker 1: you talk about that, just watching just watching the in
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Speaker 1: Melbourne last Monday, Australia, Pakistan and in attendance with Chris
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Speaker 1: Martin from Coldplay. Mick Jagger, we know loved his cricket,
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Speaker 1: was a regular sort of visitor that crossover. Again, it's
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Speaker 1: an interesting thing. What if Muso's told you about watching
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Speaker 1: cricket and watching sport, does it help them relax?
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Speaker 2: I think it does, And particularly the longer form of
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Speaker 2: the game and Test Briget, you can really sit there
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Speaker 2: and sort of get away from from from the rest
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Speaker 2: of your life and the pressures of work, just really
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Speaker 2: sort of get immersed into the game.
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Speaker 3: Gives you some thinking time. I think people who have
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Speaker 3: grown up with test.
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Speaker 2: Frigate in a long form of the game really appreciate
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Speaker 2: that and understand what that means and what summer means
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Speaker 2: to them. You know, as a kid, we'd always get
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Speaker 2: quick me on. You go for a run around the morning,
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Speaker 2: you play your own frigate, the test match. Beyond the afternoon,
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Speaker 2: you might go for a swim at lunch time and
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Speaker 2: come back your great memories growing up and it's something
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Speaker 2: that we hold you to our heart here in Australia.
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Speaker 1: We might move on to your cricket. You talked about
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Speaker 1: Courtney Walsh. I suppose my namesake. I was about eight
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Speaker 1: before he toured for the first time, and I remember
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Speaker 1: watching the West Indies Bowl in Ballarat, my hometown, and
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Speaker 1: they were frighteningly quick at the East and Oval. Now
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Speaker 1: you faced the West Indies during your career, you face Courtney.
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Speaker 1: How intimidating was it to face them when you were playing?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: The first game I played for Australia at nine to
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Speaker 2: ninety five Adelaide Oval, the attack was Ambrose Welsh as
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Speaker 2: Phil Simmons was buying as well. But those three I'm
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Speaker 2: Patrick Pattersons. You could see the bottom of his boot
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Speaker 2: in his livery strike, so the spikes will be pointing
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Speaker 2: straight at your face. Yeah, his leg was almost above
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Speaker 2: the umpire's shoulder. That's how it sort of high, sort
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Speaker 2: of reached up and pulled that front leg down. But
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Speaker 2: that was super fast. So I remember playing a county
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Speaker 2: game for Somerset in England and I played against Corney
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Speaker 2: Welsh and he I was next in the bat and
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Speaker 2: he smashed the Somerset batsman his name was Peter Bilas
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Speaker 2: went straight through his grill and smashed his face in.
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Speaker 2: It was blood all over the wicket and had to
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Speaker 2: walk out. It takes center with blood on the crease,
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Speaker 2: so that was quite intimidating. But after field they were
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Speaker 2: always all lovely guys. I didn't say too much, but
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Speaker 2: when I had a ball in the hand of petrified.
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Speaker 1: On your career, you know, we're talking about some knee injuries,
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Speaker 1: lady in your twenties, but you had the thrill of
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Speaker 1: going away for a couple of World Cups. What were
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Speaker 1: the biggest highlights for you in terms of your own
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Speaker 1: cricketing career.
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Speaker 2: Playing your first game when I just mentioned at Adelaide
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Speaker 2: Oval walkie out Green and Gold for the first time
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Speaker 2: was a huge thrill. Playing my first game with Brett.
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Speaker 2: I think Brett and I played eighteen games for Australia together.
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Speaker 2: I don't think we lost one either when we played together,
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Speaker 2: which was which was really really a great effort. And
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Speaker 2: then the ninety nine World Cup, even though I didn't
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Speaker 2: play in the final, I think I was twelfth man,
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Speaker 2: th nighth man with Damian Martin and Brendon Julian just
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Speaker 2: be part of that team and I remember Ricky Plonny
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Speaker 2: would lead the team. So there and we went out
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Speaker 2: to the middle of the Lords. Afterward, won you mentioned
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Speaker 2: the Rhyan stones before they were in the change room.
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Speaker 2: The wives and girlfriends were in there were celebrated, but
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Speaker 2: we went out just as a team in the middle
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Speaker 2: of Lords.
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Speaker 3: At home at.
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Speaker 2: Cricket when it was dark about midnight and Rickie Plinty
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Speaker 2: got on Tom Moody's shoulders and did the team sign
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Speaker 2: which is now underneath the Southern Cross. I stand a
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Speaker 2: sprigget wattle in my hand and native of a naval
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Speaker 2: land Australia. You bloody second verse that was the first
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Speaker 2: and it goes on and for me, I'll get goosebumps.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell that story with a very very special memory.
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Speaker 1: We're speaking of you, bloody beauty and goosebumps. It's twenty
17:12
Speaker 1: five years since well almost twenty five years since your
17:15
Speaker 1: brother debuted against India at the MCG in Test.
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Speaker 4: Cricketing boxing day.
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Speaker 1: That memory for you, how does that fit for you
17:24
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Brett playing on such a
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Speaker 1: stage and Test cricket.
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Speaker 3: It's very very vivid in my memory.
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Speaker 2: I went down with two good mates of mine, got
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Speaker 2: with Andrew Yates and Craig Hughes and to watch the match.
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Speaker 2: We stayed in Melbourne. We were there when he got
17:39
Speaker 2: he Baldies first over. We've got a wicket first over.
17:41
Speaker 2: So I'm very very proud of him that he did
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Speaker 2: so well. The funny marriage from that bread and trying
17:48
Speaker 2: to put some highlights in his hair to blonde his
17:50
Speaker 2: hair a little bit impressed the young ladies back then.
17:54
Speaker 2: But he's there turned irange slightly iron so we'll give
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Speaker 2: a bit of stick about that ere now.
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Speaker 1: I'm still envious of it though at least he's got
18:04
Speaker 1: it and he still got that fine fine mop.
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Speaker 4: Of hair himself as someone who loved.
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Speaker 1: One day, as someone who loved one day crickets. Been
18:16
Speaker 1: a bit of chatter over the last week about whether
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Speaker 1: or not we've devalued the game a little bit in
18:22
Speaker 1: Australia based on I suppose a result in Perth where
18:26
Speaker 1: Australia was well beaten by Pakistan to squornder the series.
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Speaker 4: At home.
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Speaker 1: They are the running World champions and we have a
18:32
Speaker 1: crowded calendar with the Border Gavascot Trophy around the corner,
18:36
Speaker 1: the ICC Champions Tour next February. What are your thoughts
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Speaker 1: on where it sits in modern cricket the odies.
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Speaker 2: That's a really good question and I'm really torn with
18:49
Speaker 2: this answer because it's a game that gave me the opportunity.
18:52
Speaker 2: It's the thing that bought my house. So I'm pretty
18:56
Speaker 2: proud of playing for Australia in that format.
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Speaker 3: Saying that.
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Speaker 2: These players now the schedule is so busy, they have
19:04
Speaker 2: so many games. You need to manage coming games you
19:08
Speaker 2: can play so they burn themselves out and happy you're
19:10
Speaker 2: right for the big matches.
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Speaker 3: But when I see a real second.
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Speaker 2: Street team, and I'm taking nothing away from the players
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Speaker 2: playing in those matches, but it's not the number one side.
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Speaker 2: It's I think as a spectator to go along, you're
19:23
Speaker 2: quite slightly disappointed because you pay your money to the
19:25
Speaker 2: ticket and you want to see the best players play,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, I don't think we saw that in.
19:30
Speaker 3: The recent games.
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Speaker 1: Do we look at different teams obviously, and we have
19:38
Speaker 1: those champion players and you've seen them as much as
19:42
Speaker 1: any coming through. Do we risk losing a little bit
19:44
Speaker 1: of momentum or is it completely different thing? When they
19:46
Speaker 1: step out in Perth on Thursday week for the boarder
19:49
Speaker 1: Game of SCO Trophy and what are you looking forward
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Speaker 1: to from that series?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's going to be a fantastic series.
19:55
Speaker 2: I think there's going to be despice in this series,
19:57
Speaker 2: definitely with the balls Campering issue in and around the
20:01
Speaker 2: India team and particularly where Britain Ponting's now come out
20:05
Speaker 2: and he's given it to the colleague.
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Speaker 3: Man move Ricky. What are you doing mate?
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Speaker 2: You're going to fire that guy up. He's a world
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Speaker 2: class player and he will fire up very very different teams,
20:16
Speaker 2: lots of experience. We have a world class attack stuff.
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Speaker 2: I mean Haslewood in line like come on, doesn't get
20:23
Speaker 2: much better than that and b B well batting is fragile.
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Speaker 2: I think it's probably one of the weaker bating lineups
20:29
Speaker 2: I've seen re Australian Test side in a while. I mean,
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Speaker 2: Sween's gonna come in, he's under pressure, he's never battle
20:34
Speaker 2: as an opener. I think that's a specialist position. Kwaja
20:38
Speaker 2: is to stand out for me at the moment. He's
20:40
Speaker 2: going to play really really well. Lava Shane I think
20:43
Speaker 2: has been how to form for quite a while, as
20:45
Speaker 2: has Steve Smith and then and then Obviously you've got
20:50
Speaker 2: Marsh that batting is six so and Head probably able
20:53
Speaker 2: to stand out as well. So Head and Bis mcgwaja,
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Speaker 2: I think we'll play well, that's a question.
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Speaker 3: So how the other guy's going to go to this series.
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Speaker 1: As a young cricketer coming in now, Nathan's twenty five.
21:08
Speaker 1: You come in, you talk about the match in Adelaide
21:10
Speaker 1: and the ODI when you come out. What are the
21:13
Speaker 1: emotions you go through in the twenty four hours before
21:16
Speaker 1: you make your debut for Australia and what can we
21:17
Speaker 1: expect from him? We've seen him excel at number three
21:20
Speaker 1: over the last twelve or so months for South Australia.
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Speaker 1: For Australia, A made thirty nine and two knocks at
21:25
Speaker 1: the mcg this week.
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Speaker 4: Do you sleep at all? Do you need to talk
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Speaker 4: to someone?
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Speaker 2: Do you?
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Speaker 1: I guess you won't flicking text back in the day.
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Speaker 1: But what do you do when you're about to play
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Speaker 1: for Australia in that twenty four hours before the first
21:38
Speaker 1: ball is bold?
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Speaker 2: Well, you tell yourself you listen to just another game,
21:44
Speaker 2: go through your routine, don't change anything different.
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Speaker 3: The reason you've got there is the reason. Are you
21:49
Speaker 3: playing well?
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Speaker 2: So you've got nothing your bat to spot, you say,
21:51
Speaker 2: I think to yourself. But it's really really difficult because
21:54
Speaker 2: it is hard to sleep you walk out there, particularly
21:58
Speaker 2: if Australian's a tice at bat. So he walks out
22:01
Speaker 2: onto that ground and in Perth with a full hopefully
22:04
Speaker 2: a full astraight crowd there, he's going to know that
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Speaker 2: he's for a fight and Boomer is going to take
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Speaker 2: the new ball.
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Speaker 3: He's going to be on his days.
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Speaker 2: It looks like a very very well organized player, but
22:16
Speaker 2: like a lot of players that would have been brought
22:18
Speaker 2: up with Teach twenty three and they sort of stay
22:19
Speaker 2: inside the ball a bit, so chances that they could
22:22
Speaker 2: they could nick off quite a bit.
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Speaker 3: So I have to wait and see.
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Speaker 2: But I hope he does really really well. It seems
22:26
Speaker 2: a really good piecent sort of bloke. He's worked hard
22:30
Speaker 2: to get there. I'm come with the outcome of the man.
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Speaker 1: Hopefully I'll put you on your toes. Prediction for the
22:39
Speaker 1: for the series.
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Speaker 2: I think I think Australia to do well. I think
22:48
Speaker 2: they maybe.
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Speaker 3: Draw the series. I think it might be too all.
22:52
Speaker 3: I think there would be one draw. They have to
22:55
Speaker 3: play well.
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Speaker 2: If our batting gets some holes, and I don't really
22:59
Speaker 2: know who's next. I think that we had in the past,
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Speaker 2: kick you through the nineties and two thousands, we always
23:04
Speaker 2: had two or three guys really just sort of chopping
23:08
Speaker 2: at the bit to take someone's dating position. I can't
23:12
Speaker 2: see that right now. I think they've tried Harris. I
23:14
Speaker 2: don't think he's the answer.
23:16
Speaker 3: Bancraft.
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Speaker 2: I think they should have picked him two years ago,
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Speaker 2: but they didn't do that, so he must really really
23:22
Speaker 2: can't work out where he stands now. So yeah, it's
23:25
Speaker 2: going to come to about batting and how well we
23:27
Speaker 2: can handle pressure, particularly when Boomer and their pace attack
23:31
Speaker 2: of steaming in the wig's doing a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 1: Look, Shane, I really appreciate you joining us a head
23:38
Speaker 1: of a big summer for yourself. I think you've got
23:41
Speaker 1: to gig at the Camfield in near up the Stadium
23:44
Speaker 1: next Thursday night. Really looking forward to watching six and
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Speaker 1: Out the Second Innings, the docu series on Fox Sports
23:52
Speaker 1: and KO Sports from next Monday.
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Speaker 4: Absolute pleasure to have you aboard.
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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, and thanks of Fox Sports too. They've been fantastic.
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Speaker 2: It's a great broadcast and I can't wait for the
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Speaker 2: sumhere cricket and go to the Aussies.
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Speaker 3: Come on, we can do this.