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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from seven to ten on Altitude Sports
- 0:08Speaker 1: Radio ninety two five and on the Altitude Sports Radio app.
- 0:19Speaker 2: Bumbs up from the off Ie and here we go
- 0:21Speaker 2: get it or Dave with speed right down the slot.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Brits watching the Stars night Man Kidd rips it past
- 0:31Speaker 2: the blocker of Ingram who breaks his stick and throws
- 0:34Speaker 2: it to the half boards and the Abs have pulled
- 0:36Speaker 2: out the extra point.
- 0:38Speaker 3: They win three two in a shootout in Edmonton. All right,
- 0:43Speaker 3: big show.
- 0:43Speaker 4: Today, we got David carl Head, coach of the national
- 0:47Speaker 4: champion d you Pioneers, joining us in twenty minutes, so
- 0:50Speaker 4: stay tuned for that. It's so funny, mode. I'm watching
- 0:53Speaker 4: this Avs game last night and one team with nothing
- 0:56Speaker 4: to play for is playing against the team with a
- 0:59Speaker 4: ton to play for, and the team with nothing to
- 1:02Speaker 4: play for wins. It's it's so funny to put that
- 1:07Speaker 4: side by side merge with what we've watched the last
- 1:10Speaker 4: three weeks in the NBA season, where if an NBA
- 1:13Speaker 4: team had nothing to play for, everyone in the arena
- 1:16Speaker 4: knew that.
- 1:17Speaker 5: Everyone Yep, in fact, what was that game where the
- 1:23Speaker 5: Nuggets finally pulled it out, but it was just street
- 1:25Speaker 5: ball the entire time. It was just they're just hoisting
- 1:28Speaker 5: from from Memphis.
- 1:30Speaker 4: When thirteen guys out, Yeah.
- 1:33Speaker 5: Yeah, they'd step outside the locker room and dude would
- 1:35Speaker 5: just throw up an eighty eight foot or you know.
- 1:37Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's just that kind of thing.
- 1:40Speaker 5: It's cool to get to the end of the regular
- 1:42Speaker 5: season like this and to play these teams when you've
- 1:45Speaker 5: got nothing to play for if you're the Avalanche, and
- 1:49Speaker 5: to have me talk to other people around the league
- 1:52Speaker 5: and other people who follow the Oilers closely, and the
- 1:56Speaker 5: thought last night was a little bit along the lines of,
- 1:59Speaker 5: you know what, I'm not sure the Oilers can play
- 2:02Speaker 5: better than that defensively. Yeah, no, I'm not sure that.
- 2:04Speaker 5: I'm not sure that they can be better than they were.
- 2:08Speaker 5: And they're like, that's still not even gonna be nearly
- 2:11Speaker 5: good enough against this club, you know what I mean.
- 2:13Speaker 5: So it kind of puts perspective on where the Avs
- 2:16Speaker 5: are and what people who see their playoff bound team
- 2:20Speaker 5: and a team that can win their own division still,
- 2:24Speaker 5: you know, people who follow that team all the time,
- 2:26Speaker 5: to look at your squad that you work with and
- 2:30Speaker 5: give honest assessments. And it wasn't just one, it was
- 2:33Speaker 5: multiple that sort of came to the conclusion that this
- 2:36Speaker 5: Avis club is pretty damn good, dude, well most even
- 2:40Speaker 5: without all the guys I know, I know the Oilers
- 2:41Speaker 5: missing Hymen and Drycidle, the Evs are missing a boatload
- 2:44Speaker 5: of guys, and everybody recognizes that.
- 2:47Speaker 4: So here's what's really interesting. You see the reaction from
- 2:52Speaker 4: Ingram after McKinnon's scores ends the game. He snaps his
- 2:55Speaker 4: stick in half and he chucks it.
- 2:57Speaker 3: What he's chucking for? Man, what's that?
- 3:01Speaker 1: So?
- 3:01Speaker 5: I don't know why he's chucking his stick. Absent five
- 3:04Speaker 5: posts in overtime he got lucky.
- 3:06Speaker 4: Well, he probably is chucking his stick. And I think
- 3:10Speaker 4: a lot of people think of it because, hey, if
- 3:12Speaker 4: they got the extra point out of that, they'd still
- 3:17Speaker 4: be competing with Vegas for the number one seed in
- 3:19Speaker 4: the Pacific. Could I argue it's the opposite. Look at
- 3:24Speaker 4: the standings real quick, because here's what is possible. Nashville
- 3:28Speaker 4: loses yesterday, they're now eliminated from playoffs.
- 3:30Speaker 5: Everybody, Yeah, every team that's gonna be in the postseason
- 3:34Speaker 5: has secured a spot. Now the only question is where
- 3:36Speaker 5: are they going to stack up?
- 3:39Speaker 4: You have now a weird combo of moj You could
- 3:43Speaker 4: play the Kings, who have now won five straight. You
- 3:47Speaker 4: could play the Mammoth who are at ninety points. You
- 3:51Speaker 4: could play the Ducks who are at ninety points. And
- 3:54Speaker 4: guess what you could play Edmonton could Maybe that's why
- 4:01Speaker 4: he was snapping the stick. It's as much about not
- 4:05Speaker 4: competing for the number one seed in the Pacific as
- 4:07Speaker 4: much as it's we're now in contention for the last
- 4:10Speaker 4: seed in the wild Card, which would be playing these
- 4:13Speaker 4: guys at least four times in a series.
- 4:17Speaker 5: Well, Edmonton's got vancouvered around out this season at home, okay.
- 4:21Speaker 4: So they should be good in that category.
- 4:25Speaker 3: So think about it.
- 4:26Speaker 5: So they'll get to ninety three points, the Ducks can
- 4:29Speaker 5: get to ninety three and by the way, you know
- 4:34Speaker 5: Vegas loses and Edmonton wins, they'll be tied with Vegas
- 4:40Speaker 5: at ninety three, but they'll have the tiebreaker, will the Oilers. Yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 5: So it's just yeah, I mean, Edmonton can go to
- 4:47Speaker 5: number one in the division. They could drop down to
- 4:50Speaker 5: the second wild card. It's I mean, it's it's pretty nuts.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Soo yeah, and so I was just I watched him
- 4:57Speaker 4: snap the stick him like is part of it that too,
- 5:00Speaker 4: is that it's not just about not getting the one
- 5:02Speaker 4: you could drop into a wild garden the new nose
- 5:04Speaker 4: after that. But the Avs once again find a way
- 5:08Speaker 4: to how about this?
- 5:10Speaker 5: How about this, Keanner, how would you like to look
- 5:11Speaker 5: forward to it if you're Edmonton in.
- 5:14Speaker 3: LA to play each other?
- 5:15Speaker 5: Uh?
- 5:15Speaker 3: Again?
- 5:17Speaker 5: Yeah, in the first round of the play It's like,
- 5:20Speaker 5: come on, man, right this format is just wearing on
- 5:25Speaker 5: me every single day.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Well, the good news is we don't have to worry
- 5:29Speaker 4: about that in the first round. We'll get something new
- 5:32Speaker 4: that's nice. But here's what I think is really funny.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Like the Avs go out and they had a whole
- 5:41Speaker 4: bunch of guys that they were resting. And I remember
- 5:44Speaker 4: Keith Yandal talked about this once. Who was is he
- 5:47Speaker 4: third now behind Burnsey for the longest consecutive game streak.
- 5:53Speaker 4: Yandall was asked a question between the mentalities between them
- 5:57Speaker 4: and NBA players, and I can't remember what the context was.
- 6:00Speaker 4: I'd have been the four nations and how hard guys
- 6:01Speaker 4: are playing, And he said we're company men in the NHL.
- 6:07Speaker 4: We just do what we're asked. We don't have there's
- 6:09Speaker 4: no like what's in it for me thing. It's just
- 6:12Speaker 4: we're gonna go out there and play. And I just
- 6:15Speaker 4: can't get over that. I'm watching the Avs, who have
- 6:18Speaker 4: nothing to play for go out there and put together
- 6:21Speaker 4: an effort like that last night. Like was it perfect? No,
- 6:25Speaker 4: but you could tell motion. It's hard in hockey, like
- 6:28Speaker 4: if you aren't going one hundred percent, you're gonna get
- 6:30Speaker 4: yourself hurt, which is another issue that you would have
- 6:33Speaker 4: to do with totally. It's like Nathan McKinnon, Gabe Landiskog,
- 6:38Speaker 4: Brock Nelson, all these guys are like, Nope, we're just
- 6:40Speaker 4: we got to go full bore. Why because we have
- 6:42Speaker 4: a game tonight. There you go, NBA Uh But if
- 6:47Speaker 4: I play tonight, is there something in it for me?
- 6:50Speaker 3: Yeah? Kind of. That's the way it is.
- 6:52Speaker 5: And I think that the league is the league has
- 6:55Speaker 5: encouraged that over the years, you know what I mean.
- 6:57Speaker 5: I think one league encourages one thing and one league
- 7:00Speaker 5: encourages the other thing. Because when you started paying guys,
- 7:04Speaker 5: you know, thirty million, forty million dollars per year and
- 7:07Speaker 5: more than that. Now obviously that you stop looking at
- 7:13Speaker 5: him as a player in a person. It's just a commodity.
- 7:15Speaker 5: It's an asset and you're trying, Yeah, you're trying to
- 7:18Speaker 5: protect protect your asset as much as possible. And that's
- 7:21Speaker 5: what baseball does with these top starters. When the guy's
- 7:24Speaker 5: got a two hundred and thirty million dollar contract and
- 7:29Speaker 5: you know, you put him on a pitch count because
- 7:31Speaker 5: you don't want to even risk an elble, I mean whatever.
- 7:35Speaker 5: You just become an asset of commodity. And that's how
- 7:37Speaker 5: teams deal with it. That's how they think about it.
- 7:40Speaker 5: Whereas the hockey maybe if the money gets there someday,
- 7:43Speaker 5: you know, like that, maybe it'll be the same kind
- 7:46Speaker 5: of story.
- 7:46Speaker 3: But it ain't there yet.
- 7:47Speaker 4: I know that this guy his name is like Voldemort
- 7:53Speaker 4: in these parts. But I got to make an admission.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Let's that starting to turn the corner on Nick right
- 7:59Speaker 4: a bit? Why? Because he's saying things I agree with.
- 8:03Speaker 4: It's a different it's.
- 8:05Speaker 3: Just saying stuff you like, and you're like, oh, that's
- 8:08Speaker 3: so bad. It made a good point.
- 8:10Speaker 4: Well he was talking about this.
- 8:11Speaker 3: I heard him.
- 8:11Speaker 4: It was actually like, it's a really interesting story, he said.
- 8:14Speaker 3: What made him?
- 8:15Speaker 4: He said basketball, the NBA is his favorite sport. He
- 8:18Speaker 4: was and we know how much he loves the Chiefs
- 8:20Speaker 4: Writy parties with Travis Kelcey or whatever. He said, the
- 8:23Speaker 4: NBA is his favorite sport, and he goes it's because
- 8:26Speaker 4: when I was eight years old, his mom took him
- 8:28Speaker 4: to a game in New York City to watch the
- 8:30Speaker 4: Bulls play the Knicks. And this was Michael Jordan's Bulls
- 8:35Speaker 4: and he it was the last game of the year.
- 8:37Speaker 5: And he said, his mom, that's kind of that's quite
- 8:41Speaker 5: the gift.
- 8:42Speaker 4: That is quite the gift.
- 8:43Speaker 5: Can you ever imagine your parents, Hey, son, pack up,
- 8:46Speaker 5: We're going to New York City this weekend to watch
- 8:48Speaker 5: no the Bulls in the Knicks play at the Garden.
- 8:50Speaker 4: We go to Chili's. Right, if you're lucky, if you're lucky,
- 8:54Speaker 4: if I'm lucky, Yes, but he said, took him to
- 8:58Speaker 4: a game in New York City to watch the Bulls play.
- 9:00Speaker 4: The next he goes, in my head, I always remembered
- 9:03Speaker 4: that game. As that game was going to settle who
- 9:05Speaker 4: was first place in the East. He went back and
- 9:08Speaker 4: looked both teams were locked in The Knicks were the
- 9:11Speaker 4: one seed, the Bulls were the two seed. They weren't
- 9:14Speaker 4: going anywhere, and he goes Michael Jordan played thirty eight
- 9:18Speaker 4: minutes and Patrick Ewing played forty minutes. And it's that
- 9:22Speaker 4: that will never happen again in the NBA. And I
- 9:25Speaker 4: just think about this in the NHL. How much time
- 9:27Speaker 4: did McKinnon spend on the ice last night? Off the
- 9:29Speaker 4: top of your head, do you remember.
- 9:32Speaker 3: A lot? Twenty eight minutes? Yeah? Look at Davontave's numbers.
- 9:37Speaker 3: How many did he play?
- 9:38Speaker 4: Brett Davontaves played thirty one minutes and twenty one seconds,
- 9:41Speaker 4: thirty one twenty one in a game that didn't maname,
- 9:46Speaker 4: that didn't mean Jack squat And by the way he
- 9:50Speaker 4: played well, man, I thought, I thought Davon Taves had.
- 9:54Speaker 3: A really good game last night. It's so hard to
- 9:58Speaker 3: stick with pickles, it just and he was.
- 10:02Speaker 5: I just thought he was brilliant last night. He and
- 10:04Speaker 5: Wedgwood with the ABS two best players.
- 10:06Speaker 4: Yeah, really good. I mean Wedgwood, what did God send
- 10:11Speaker 4: That guy's been? I mean, he's been so incredible since
- 10:14Speaker 4: coming here. I mean, moj you have I don't even
- 10:18Speaker 4: want to say statistically anymore because I don't think it matters.
- 10:22Speaker 4: It feels like you got the best goalie in the league.
- 10:25Speaker 4: This guy doesn't have a bad game. Knock on wood,
- 10:28Speaker 4: he just doesn't.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Though they ain't got any wood.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Thirty one, thirty one shots Yeah, yeah, go find go
- 10:35Speaker 4: find something, go find something.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Okay, I got it, I got it, I got it.
- 10:38Speaker 3: I got you.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Thirty one shots on goal last night, thirty saves, shuts
- 10:41Speaker 4: it down, ot shuts it down in the shootout, like
- 10:45Speaker 4: he's just he's been remarkable. And it's just another sort
- 10:48Speaker 4: of tick in the box of like why do you
- 10:50Speaker 4: think the Abs are going to be the Stanley Cup champion?
- 10:53Speaker 4: Well you have this and this and this and this
- 10:55Speaker 4: and now you have not just okay goaltending like they
- 10:58Speaker 4: had with Darcy Kemper and in Darcy was good. You
- 11:02Speaker 4: have great goaltending now gat Yeah.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Uh did you watch the game last night?
- 11:07Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 11:08Speaker 3: Did you have the sound on with us?
- 11:10Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 11:11Speaker 5: Okay, I thought that. I thought we were a little
- 11:15Speaker 5: up and down last night us. And I don't know
- 11:20Speaker 5: if I articulated it very well because when you take
- 11:22Speaker 5: I mean, I hate this week off between games now
- 11:25Speaker 5: for us, You know what I mean, It's it sticks
- 11:27Speaker 5: National TV, National TV take it the game while run.
- 11:31Speaker 5: But I hope I articulated it well enough that people
- 11:35Speaker 5: could understand. On mcpickle's goal, you see what happens. How
- 11:41Speaker 5: does this happen to the best players on the planet.
- 11:43Speaker 5: How does it happen? He fires it toward the slot
- 11:49Speaker 5: and he's looking.
- 11:49Speaker 3: For a for a you know, ah, but the bumper
- 11:53Speaker 3: to bang it in.
- 11:55Speaker 5: Two guys collide, the puck bounces up in the air
- 11:57Speaker 5: and skips right back to hit.
- 11:59Speaker 3: He does even move.
- 12:01Speaker 5: Yeah, the puck goes right back to his tap and
- 12:03Speaker 5: he one times from an impossible angle upstairs. You're like,
- 12:06Speaker 5: that puck is like I want to go home to you.
- 12:09Speaker 5: Connor McDavid, please shoot me. You know that. That's what
- 12:12Speaker 5: it feels like.
- 12:13Speaker 3: That puck just just it finds the best players on
- 12:16Speaker 3: the planet. It's amazing always.
- 12:19Speaker 4: By the way, because Bensi is not in Canada with
- 12:22Speaker 4: you guys, he's still recovering and we don't we do
- 12:25Speaker 4: not know if he's joining us tomorrow. We hope that
- 12:27Speaker 4: he does, but if not, then I think we all
- 12:30Speaker 4: kind of understand took a puck to the face and
- 12:34Speaker 4: your face got broken. Whatever. But because he wasn't there.
- 12:40Speaker 4: Somebody had to read the starting lineup last night to
- 12:42Speaker 4: the locker room, and it was Parker Kelly.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Starting up front.
- 12:46Speaker 5: That Jesus.
- 12:50Speaker 7: In the middle stick stick playing.
- 13:20Speaker 3: I like that.
- 13:21Speaker 4: Just to give that sheet to somebody else. You go
- 13:23Speaker 4: ahead and read it.
- 13:24Speaker 5: You like bruck Nelson's nickname there, stick Stick Yeah, number eleven,
- 13:31Speaker 5: I like it.
- 13:31Speaker 8: And if you heard those pauses in the audio, a
- 13:34Speaker 8: couple of times that was av social cutting out some
- 13:37Speaker 8: no no words. So if you heard Brent Burns, I'll
- 13:40Speaker 8: let you guess what word came before Burns.
- 13:43Speaker 4: Naughty, col You're naughty, naughty Parker naughty? Uh three oh
- 13:48Speaker 4: three five four nine two five. Let's make way.
- 13:51Speaker 5: By the way, I hope everybody's sleeping in this joint
- 13:57Speaker 5: rolled in late bro Bro This is a late role
- 13:59Speaker 5: in vic out today.
- 14:00Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 14:01Speaker 5: And so so I'm behind my television trying to figure
- 14:05Speaker 5: out how to with this the brand new hotel I
- 14:06Speaker 5: never stayed here before, trying to figure out how to
- 14:09Speaker 5: connect it. About one in the morning, trying to figure
- 14:12Speaker 5: out how to get on the air.
- 14:13Speaker 4: Well, you sound great, well you look you look like
- 14:16Speaker 4: a moron? Are you a compliment? This is what I
- 14:20Speaker 4: get in return.
- 14:21Speaker 3: Let's talk. Let's talk to coach Carl. How's that say,
- 14:23Speaker 3: you want to talk to a national champion? Damn right
- 14:25Speaker 3: I do.
- 14:26Speaker 4: David Carl joins us next for the.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Twenty first time.
- 14:30Speaker 2: Ken Berg is gonna go to the frozen board, fourth
- 14:34Speaker 2: time in the last five years, seven times in the
- 14:39Speaker 2: last ten.
- 14:40Speaker 8: They are the standard of Cola hockey.
- 14:44Speaker 9: The standard is the standard and the standard. And again
- 14:49Speaker 9: Tod Bugger, Pile Chazov, Steve the freshman with the biggest
- 14:58Speaker 9: tip up here, life after Boston Buckberger with the rocket
- 15:05Speaker 9: on through. Look at all the traffic around the net.
- 15:10Speaker 6: But once again.
- 15:16Speaker 3: National champ.
- 15:22Speaker 4: Another year, another national title for du It's it's almost
- 15:26Speaker 4: unfair to put it that way, because you know what
- 15:28Speaker 4: it takes to get to a level where you're winning
- 15:31Speaker 4: this consistently and above all of it, especially in college,
- 15:36Speaker 4: you got to have a man in charge that knows
- 15:38Speaker 4: what he's doing. And with that, we head out to
- 15:40Speaker 4: the ramos Law hotline or accident you need ramos Law
- 15:43Speaker 4: Medical doctor and attorney ramos Law dot com. We got
- 15:45Speaker 4: him elling is he good to go?
- 15:48Speaker 3: Maybe? Maybe?
- 15:49Speaker 4: So we'll see, uh maybe in a couple of minutes, here,
- 15:51Speaker 4: but head coach David Carl of the du Pioneers is
- 15:54Speaker 4: going to join us in just a moment.
- 15:57Speaker 5: Yeah, I believe he's gonna be in the zoom room, Brett.
- 15:58Speaker 5: So when you see him come up in zoomer, let
- 16:00Speaker 5: me let me help you out a little bit, because
- 16:03Speaker 5: this is where you tend to get sideways when zoom room. Okay,
- 16:08Speaker 5: when you see him in the zoom room, that means, hey,
- 16:10Speaker 5: we're ready to go.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Baby.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Well he is there. That's why I was asking. He's
- 16:14Speaker 4: he's hanging out there. So I'm just you know, we're waiting.
- 16:16Speaker 4: We're waiting, that's all. So we'll talk to him in
- 16:21Speaker 4: just a couple of minutes. But mog again, when you
- 16:23Speaker 4: talk about a team that's won three titles in six years, Oh,
- 16:28Speaker 4: we got him. Okay, he's ready to go. Uh, let's
- 16:31Speaker 4: talk to him right now then, Head coach of the
- 16:33Speaker 4: deal Pioneers, David Carl, coach, how are you doing this morning?
- 16:36Speaker 6: I'm doing great? Guys, how are you doing?
- 16:38Speaker 4: Awesome? And we're just talking about the the level of
- 16:42Speaker 4: winning this consistently. I mean, what goes into it? What
- 16:45Speaker 4: do you think the overall secret sauce to three national
- 16:48Speaker 4: titles in six years.
- 16:49Speaker 10: Is well, first it's five years, but five years, I'm sorry, five,
- 16:56Speaker 10: It's all good.
- 16:57Speaker 3: But coach, I'm trying. I'm trying to get him.
- 16:59Speaker 6: On board here, you know, come on, I know, yeah,
- 17:04Speaker 6: I would tell you.
- 17:06Speaker 10: I mean there's a lot that goes into it, obviously,
- 17:08Speaker 10: as you guys know, and I think it really does
- 17:13Speaker 10: not to be cliche, but it really does start at
- 17:15Speaker 10: the top with you know, how our school views our
- 17:18Speaker 10: hockey program, what their expectations and standards are of us,
- 17:23Speaker 10: and from Dan Ritchie to John Miller to our chancellor
- 17:28Speaker 10: to Josh Burlow, you know, it's just it's everybody and
- 17:32Speaker 10: what is expected of us. And then our staff is
- 17:36Speaker 10: our staff's been together since twenty eighteen, and there's a
- 17:39Speaker 10: lot of continuity. And that's not only coaches, but our
- 17:42Speaker 10: athletic trainer, our equipment manager or shrink coach, so Matt Shaw,
- 17:46Speaker 10: Nick Melger, Marion Lou you know, Ron Knabenbauer. I mean,
- 17:50Speaker 10: everybody has a role on our staff. And the continuity
- 17:56Speaker 10: around that, I think to our players and families who
- 18:02Speaker 10: are like gosh, where should I send my son? And
- 18:05Speaker 10: I think it just makes it really easy for families
- 18:07Speaker 10: to say I'm comfortable with my son going to Denver,
- 18:10Speaker 10: and once they get here, they know the standard and
- 18:13Speaker 10: the expectation and it just kind of passed.
- 18:16Speaker 6: Down from generation a generation.
- 18:19Speaker 10: Now it's been really fun to watch and see build
- 18:21Speaker 10: and we're just so proud to be a.
- 18:22Speaker 6: Part of it.
- 18:24Speaker 5: Coach, when you got into the conference tournament, I was
- 18:27Speaker 5: just so impressed with your school and your guys and
- 18:30Speaker 5: it just the way everybody sort of focused on the
- 18:33Speaker 5: immediate task at hand, and obviously that carried over into
- 18:37Speaker 5: the tourney. Can you talk about, I guess, the maturation
- 18:41Speaker 5: of your team over the course of this year and
- 18:44Speaker 5: what lock these guys in when it mattered the most.
- 18:49Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it certainly wasn't you know.
- 18:51Speaker 10: I would say are other years we had bumps in
- 18:53Speaker 10: the road, but not like this year. And so there
- 18:59Speaker 10: was a lot of growing and you know, adversity that
- 19:03Speaker 10: we face, you know, some of it out of our control,
- 19:05Speaker 10: but a lot in our control that was self inflicted,
- 19:07Speaker 10: and you know, I think our guys did a great
- 19:10Speaker 10: job of kind of acknowledging that, recognizing it and changing.
- 19:15Speaker 10: You know, we went on a seven game winless streak
- 19:17Speaker 10: in December and January and we had to look in
- 19:20Speaker 10: the mirror and change some things about how we were
- 19:22Speaker 10: doing stuff. And the guys were fully bought into that.
- 19:25Speaker 10: And it's pretty crazy that we went on the run
- 19:29Speaker 10: that we did.
- 19:30Speaker 6: We didn't lose.
- 19:32Speaker 10: You know, from the end of January on we were
- 19:34Speaker 10: thirteen and eleven in some must swing games to keep
- 19:37Speaker 10: ourselves alive into the in the playoff picture, and we
- 19:41Speaker 10: ended twenty nine and eleven. It's pretty remarkable. Our other teams,
- 19:45Speaker 10: you know, did not go on runs like that, but
- 19:48Speaker 10: they also didn't maybe hit the bottom of adversity that
- 19:50Speaker 10: this group did and have to feel that level of
- 19:53Speaker 10: urgency to get out of it.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Well, a big reason for that. Coach and head coach
- 19:57Speaker 4: of the DEU Pioneers, David carl with us Johnny Hicks
- 20:01Speaker 4: doesn't lose. That's always nice to have. I mean, what
- 20:03Speaker 4: was it about him when you put him into the
- 20:05Speaker 4: game that you realize, oh my gosh, this guy's incredible.
- 20:09Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, he was amazing, certainly, and you know
- 20:12Speaker 10: when he went in, you know, you got to look back.
- 20:16Speaker 10: We were in the we're toward the tail end of
- 20:18Speaker 10: that seven game windless streak and Quintin Miller stood on
- 20:22Speaker 10: his head up at North Dakota to snap the windless streak.
- 20:25Speaker 10: We won three to two or four to two. We
- 20:27Speaker 10: really had no business winning the game. And then we're
- 20:29Speaker 10: coming home. We're playing Saint Cloud. You know, the guys
- 20:31Speaker 10: are feeling good. We're like, gosh, hope we're out of
- 20:33Speaker 10: this funk. We get up to nothing, we're playing well,
- 20:36Speaker 10: it's parents weekends, everyone's parents are in town, and we
- 20:40Speaker 10: blow it to nothing lead, we're down, we lose four
- 20:42Speaker 10: to two, and then Saturday it becomes gosh, are we
- 20:46Speaker 10: back to maybe this is what we're gonna be. And
- 20:48Speaker 10: you know, Quinton goes down three minutes into that game,
- 20:52Speaker 10: and now we're looking at Johnny, who hasn't started a
- 20:54Speaker 10: game all year. He played a period up in North Dakota,
- 20:57Speaker 10: and we're like, where's this gonna go. You know, we
- 20:59Speaker 10: didn't know Johnny was going to do what he was
- 21:01Speaker 10: dead right, and and Johnny goes in. The team plays great,
- 21:05Speaker 10: Johnny plays great, We win six nothing against Saint Cloud.
- 21:08Speaker 6: He comes back, we.
- 21:09Speaker 10: Sweeped the Louth the following weekend, and you know, then
- 21:13Speaker 10: it just felt like the legend continued to build and
- 21:16Speaker 10: grow from there. So he came into a really precarious
- 21:19Speaker 10: situation for a group, obviously hit all marks with flying
- 21:24Speaker 10: colors and and then just continue to crush it as
- 21:28Speaker 10: we went. And what can you say about him? They
- 21:30Speaker 10: only gave up three goals twice, once to the luth
- 21:34Speaker 10: in the NCHC Final and once to Michigan in the
- 21:37Speaker 10: Frozen four. Everything else was two or less and a
- 21:40Speaker 10: lot of times it was one or less. He set
- 21:43Speaker 10: save percentage record that was held by Jimmy Howard for
- 21:45Speaker 10: a number of years, and the goals against.
- 21:48Speaker 6: Record as well.
- 21:49Speaker 10: Just an incredible, incredible story and run for the freshman goaltender.
- 21:53Speaker 5: Yeah, Kocha, he's obviously terrific young goalie. That's great, But
- 21:57Speaker 5: how much of this too is you got to young guy.
- 22:00Speaker 5: He's kind of throwing it into the mix, but he
- 22:02Speaker 5: doesn't know what he doesn't know, and he just goes
- 22:04Speaker 5: on out there and just plays.
- 22:07Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly, I mean he's not affected by the noise
- 22:12Speaker 10: or really anything on the external, which is which is
- 22:15Speaker 10: a wonderful, you know, skill to have. Mentally, he's very
- 22:19Speaker 10: sharp and able to block out the noise. And again,
- 22:23Speaker 10: I think you saw a lot of that in the
- 22:25Speaker 10: Michigan game, you know, when he gets totally run over
- 22:28Speaker 10: by Jamison and Spence, he just kind of laid there
- 22:32Speaker 10: for twenty thirty seconds, composed himself and then and then
- 22:35Speaker 10: got back up and dusted himself off and went back
- 22:39Speaker 10: to work. And so again we saw him in moments,
- 22:42Speaker 10: whether it be the Dluth weekend when he was cramping
- 22:45Speaker 10: and had to get pulled and put back in on Saturday,
- 22:47Speaker 10: or how he came in against Saint Cloud, how he
- 22:49Speaker 10: did against Michigan, he just or even against the Luth
- 22:52Speaker 10: in the championship game, we're up three to nothing, we
- 22:54Speaker 10: give up three and like, gosh, how's this guy gonna respond?
- 22:58Speaker 10: And he just shut the door and and we won
- 23:00Speaker 10: an overtime again. And I was really proud of him
- 23:04Speaker 10: and what he was able to accomplish.
- 23:06Speaker 6: And it can't be said enough.
- 23:08Speaker 10: Ryan Massa as well, the work he's done with our goaltenders,
- 23:11Speaker 10: with Corona, with Davis and now with Hicks and Miller
- 23:14Speaker 10: this year, you know, deserves all the credit in the
- 23:17Speaker 10: world for how he builds.
- 23:18Speaker 6: A relationship with these guys. But he really does a
- 23:20Speaker 6: lot of work with.
- 23:21Speaker 10: The mindset and the mental teaching and the blocking out
- 23:24Speaker 10: of the noise. And you know, Ryan, Ryan was amazing
- 23:28Speaker 10: first staff this year and helping Johnny out coach.
- 23:31Speaker 3: This is a compliment to you, to you and your club.
- 23:34Speaker 5: It wasn't like you guys were coming on out and
- 23:36Speaker 5: punching teams in the mouth and taking it to nothing
- 23:38Speaker 5: lead that sort of thing.
- 23:40Speaker 3: But but what you did do is you showed just
- 23:42Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of resiliency. And I know that every
- 23:46Speaker 3: team of yours has its own identity, you know, that
- 23:48Speaker 3: something that you can you can look at.
- 23:50Speaker 5: But I was just so impressed with your guys' abilities
- 23:54Speaker 5: to just put their heads down and fight back and
- 23:57Speaker 5: get even and then you know, get the job done
- 23:59Speaker 5: on it mattered the most. I mean, what's that say
- 24:02Speaker 5: about this particular group of guys and just the amount
- 24:05Speaker 5: of fortitude they showed game in and game out through
- 24:08Speaker 5: this entire run.
- 24:10Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I thought we were you know, we
- 24:14Speaker 6: were doing that what you're like?
- 24:16Speaker 10: I thought our starts were excellent up until the Frozen
- 24:19Speaker 10: four for for a number of these games. How we
- 24:21Speaker 10: jumped Western and Cornell.
- 24:23Speaker 5: Well you know what, yeah, I don't think I apologize, Yeah, yeah,
- 24:26Speaker 5: you apologize.
- 24:27Speaker 10: Yeah, but getting into the Frozen four. You know, you're
- 24:30Speaker 10: you're playing the best of the best. Everybody's feeling good,
- 24:32Speaker 10: and you know, I actually liked how we started the
- 24:36Speaker 10: Michigan game. That game was very back and forth, but
- 24:39Speaker 10: certainly they had their runs, and you know, the shop perspective,
- 24:42Speaker 10: it looks to me, it looks worse than it is.
- 24:44Speaker 10: We I thought we did a great job defending the
- 24:46Speaker 10: inside and keeping a lot to the outside. And again
- 24:49Speaker 10: we're a little banged up as well, not that anybody
- 24:51Speaker 10: else isn't, but sometimes you have to play a certain
- 24:54Speaker 10: way based on your personnel and and and where the
- 24:58Speaker 10: healthier team is. And I thought we did that certainly
- 25:00Speaker 10: in the championship game, coming off the double overtime, the
- 25:03Speaker 10: late night, the injuries we were dealing with, and ultimately,
- 25:07Speaker 10: like you said, the resiliency. It's like, you know, they
- 25:10Speaker 10: had us on the mat and they didn't kill us, and.
- 25:14Speaker 6: That's on them.
- 25:15Speaker 10: And we were able to stick around, hang around and
- 25:19Speaker 10: survive and finally break through and find a chink in
- 25:23Speaker 10: the armor and play our best period in the third
- 25:26Speaker 10: and capitalize on the chances that we had. So that
- 25:30Speaker 10: to me is, like you said, so impressive that you know,
- 25:35Speaker 10: we were never phasing that game. Would we have loved
- 25:37Speaker 10: to have been playing better and getting more chances, Yes,
- 25:39Speaker 10: But I don't think we were playing awful.
- 25:42Speaker 6: By any stretch.
- 25:43Speaker 10: We were doing what we needed to do to hang
- 25:46Speaker 10: around and very similar to twenty two And you know,
- 25:49Speaker 10: ultimately it's hard to play that way for sixty minutes
- 25:52Speaker 10: if you're the other team, and we just kind of
- 25:55Speaker 10: believed and trusted that there would be a chink in
- 25:57Speaker 10: the armor at some point and we'd be able to
- 25:59Speaker 10: break through and make our kill shot.
- 26:01Speaker 4: National champion head coach David Carl of the d Pioneers
- 26:04Speaker 4: with us. You know, when you have this level of
- 26:06Speaker 4: consistent success over a longer time frame, it feels like
- 26:11Speaker 4: now in college at the athletics it's harder now than
- 26:15Speaker 4: ever with nil transfer era. How much has that affected
- 26:19Speaker 4: the way you go about roster construction.
- 26:23Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean somewhat, not a ton.
- 26:26Speaker 10: I think we like to We've always tried to be
- 26:29Speaker 10: different than the marketplace and what we kind of are
- 26:32Speaker 10: selling or trying to, you know, messaging to recruits and
- 26:36Speaker 10: things of that nature. So again, I think we're in
- 26:38Speaker 10: a world where everybody wants to talk about the portal
- 26:42Speaker 10: and money. You know, we try to keep the main things,
- 26:45Speaker 10: the main things, which is our relationships, the academic experience,
- 26:50Speaker 10: of social experience, and truthfully the opportunity to develop and win.
- 26:54Speaker 10: I mean, no better story than Boston buck Berger, you know,
- 26:58Speaker 10: to win two championships, sign NHL contract.
- 27:01Speaker 6: You know, our guys aren't not.
- 27:03Speaker 10: One of our guys came here with this huge promise
- 27:06Speaker 10: of getting a bunch of nil money. We don't have
- 27:08Speaker 10: an nil collective. Our guys, if they're doing nil, it's
- 27:12Speaker 10: genuine via a business. It's nothing that we're you know,
- 27:16Speaker 10: setting up a twenty five thousand dollars appearance or any
- 27:19Speaker 10: of that type of stuff.
- 27:20Speaker 6: So I don't know, I just I said it after
- 27:22Speaker 6: the game. But you know, the.
- 27:24Speaker 10: Success we're having in the way we're doing it, you know,
- 27:27Speaker 10: to me really should be celebrated in this world where
- 27:31Speaker 10: so much is being put on the superficial in the
- 27:34Speaker 10: outside types.
- 27:36Speaker 6: Of things, and you know, I think we're doing it
- 27:38Speaker 6: the right way.
- 27:38Speaker 10: And again, just really proud of our program that we're
- 27:42Speaker 10: able to be the constant, you know, kind of in
- 27:44Speaker 10: the storm of college athletics, and to do it at
- 27:48Speaker 10: a place like Denver. You know, no big football, six
- 27:51Speaker 10: thousand undergrad you know, it really is. That's where I
- 27:53Speaker 10: said at the top. You know, it does start with
- 27:57Speaker 10: you know, Dan Ritchie, John Miller, Jeremy Josh Burlow. You know,
- 28:01Speaker 10: you need great leadership that buys into that vision and yes,
- 28:05Speaker 10: still supports us in a big time way and invest
- 28:07Speaker 10: into our program. But we're gonna do it and it's
- 28:09Speaker 10: gonna look a little bit different than other places that
- 28:11Speaker 10: are maybe trying to just buy their way into things,
- 28:15Speaker 10: you know, And that's what I love about being in
- 28:17Speaker 10: this market. We're very well supported by this community. But
- 28:20Speaker 10: I think people can rely on us that we're gonna
- 28:23Speaker 10: put out a winning product and we're gonna put out
- 28:25Speaker 10: a product that people can be proud of because of
- 28:28Speaker 10: how we're doing it year in and year out.
- 28:30Speaker 5: Yeah, take that Big Ten, take that Hockey East. Yeah,
- 28:33Speaker 5: that's what I's That's why I say with coach Carl Hey, coach.
- 28:37Speaker 5: But what I also recognize that the way things are
- 28:40Speaker 5: going now, I don't know the college hockey's ever been
- 28:42Speaker 5: better than it is right this second. And you see
- 28:46Speaker 5: that the different rules have changed and so on and
- 28:48Speaker 5: so forth, and obviously you're getting some terrific players still
- 28:51Speaker 5: coming into the program. Here in the future, how much
- 28:54Speaker 5: more difficult is it going to be, I think for
- 28:56Speaker 5: everybody navigating the college hockey landscape as teams get better,
- 29:01Speaker 5: conferences get better, and and it's going to be that
- 29:04Speaker 5: much more competitive for sure.
- 29:07Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think winning at this time was you know,
- 29:10Speaker 10: as great as twenty two and twenty four were. You know,
- 29:14Speaker 10: the last championship is always the most important because you
- 29:17Speaker 10: want to be forefront of minds and when it comes
- 29:18Speaker 10: to the recruiting, and you know, with this rule change,
- 29:21Speaker 10: cochl you know, I'm talking to a lot of kids
- 29:24Speaker 10: and families this year. We're having to educate them on
- 29:27Speaker 10: you know, what Denver hockey is because they just they
- 29:30Speaker 10: don't know. They truthfully, they're like, we don't we wouldn't
- 29:33Speaker 10: understand the difference between Denver and Michigan Tech or Clarkson
- 29:38Speaker 10: or Penn State. Like they don't know the difference is
- 29:41Speaker 10: because they don't grow up in the world or think
- 29:43Speaker 10: about it as they've had to in the last twelve months.
- 29:45Speaker 10: And so to be able to win this one and
- 29:48Speaker 10: kind of be on the forefront of yeah, this is
- 29:50Speaker 10: this is what we do at Denver, we win, and
- 29:53Speaker 10: we do it the right way, and we move.
- 29:55Speaker 6: Guys on and guys develop.
- 29:57Speaker 10: I think is just so important. And obviously we're very
- 30:02Speaker 10: bullish on what we have coming in, what players we're
- 30:05Speaker 10: going to be able to get access to because of
- 30:07Speaker 10: how we do things. You know, I think our fans
- 30:10Speaker 10: and everybody's going to be really excited to see the
- 30:12Speaker 10: group that we have coming back and the players that
- 30:15Speaker 10: we are adding and continuing to work on here in
- 30:19Speaker 10: the next.
- 30:19Speaker 6: Couple of months to finalize our roster for next year.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Do you head coach David carl with us and coach
- 30:24Speaker 4: before we let you go. I do want to ask
- 30:26Speaker 4: one thing about you know, when you have success at
- 30:28Speaker 4: the level that you've had, it that breeds attention, and
- 30:32Speaker 4: have you given thought short term, long term kind of
- 30:35Speaker 4: what your plans are as a coach. You're still really
- 30:37Speaker 4: really young, but we know you've gotten phone calls from
- 30:40Speaker 4: up top before. I mean, how do you handle all that?
- 30:44Speaker 6: Yeah? I would tell you the same way I always have.
- 30:46Speaker 10: Nothing's really changed for me to that end, and you know,
- 30:51Speaker 10: I'm just obviously very grateful and focus on again what
- 30:55Speaker 10: we're doing here and trying to make sure that we
- 30:57Speaker 10: can have a chance to be in DC year. We
- 31:00Speaker 10: got a lot of players coming back, a lot of
- 31:01Speaker 10: great players coming in, a few things to finalize, but
- 31:05Speaker 10: we're really looking forward to and we failed uh the
- 31:09Speaker 10: last two times. It's time to win in an audio.
- 31:11Speaker 10: So we're in this weird time now where we get
- 31:14Speaker 10: to celebrate, but we also have to live in the
- 31:17Speaker 10: reality of the world keeps turning and we have some
- 31:19Speaker 10: things and decisions to make. So there's parts of our
- 31:23Speaker 10: days where it's like, yep, we're on to the next one.
- 31:25Speaker 10: And then there's certainly other moments where we get to
- 31:28Speaker 10: celebrate and enjoy and.
- 31:30Speaker 3: I'm happy to be. I'm happy to be.
- 31:32Speaker 5: But as you know, coach, I'm surrounded by pios all
- 31:35Speaker 5: the time.
- 31:36Speaker 3: Yes you are, and yeah, I can't. I can't tell
- 31:38Speaker 3: you how proud they all are of the program.
- 31:41Speaker 4: And did you talk to l Emos.
- 31:45Speaker 3: I know I have not talked to him yet.
- 31:47Speaker 5: No, but obviously rych right, I saw Paul Stasney in
- 31:52Speaker 5: Saint Louis last week and he was pumped big time
- 31:55Speaker 5: getting ready for for the Frozen four. It was it
- 31:58Speaker 5: was just great coaching. They're also proud of you as
- 32:01Speaker 5: you know, but it's just it's just awesome to have
- 32:04Speaker 5: that kind of that kind of support around. And of
- 32:06Speaker 5: course I've been a Payo guy for over thirty years
- 32:09Speaker 5: now since I got to town. So it's just it's
- 32:11Speaker 5: kick gass and really really happy for you.
- 32:14Speaker 6: No, I appreciate it.
- 32:15Speaker 10: We uh, we have a great alumni group, certainly, and
- 32:19Speaker 10: we love representing them. And I think that's what makes
- 32:21Speaker 10: Denver so special. You're part of something bigger than yourself,
- 32:24Speaker 10: and you know, stazzled by a steak dinner for the boys,
- 32:28Speaker 10: and you know, the guys just they get so excited.
- 32:30Speaker 6: And now we're to a point where, you know, boom and.
- 32:33Speaker 10: Divine and you know, we got a younger group of
- 32:35Speaker 10: guys that are splitting dinners for the guys, and you know,
- 32:39Speaker 10: that's what it's all about, is giving back and being
- 32:41Speaker 10: a part of the thing and keeping it moving. So
- 32:44Speaker 10: it was great to see many of them in Vegas.
- 32:45Speaker 10: A lot of them came out for it. And as
- 32:49Speaker 10: I told Drew Shore, we have a we have a
- 32:51Speaker 10: high we have a very demanding alumni base. That'd be
- 32:53Speaker 10: another reason why we keep winning. They don't they don't
- 32:56Speaker 10: like losing, so the pressure is always on a Denver
- 32:59Speaker 10: to win.
- 33:00Speaker 5: You know, we're gonna have a hell of an alumni
- 33:01Speaker 5: game again this year ABS alumni versus the U alumni,
- 33:05Speaker 5: so uh, watch out.
- 33:07Speaker 6: I don't know that was a great event last year.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 33:13Speaker 4: Well, coach, congratulations, appreciate the time this morning and.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Go enjoy it.
- 33:18Speaker 6: Thank you guys, have a great day.
- 33:19Speaker 4: Head coach, National champion head coach at the Dego Pioneers
- 33:22Speaker 4: David Carl with us.
- 33:26Speaker 5: Cater I told you, you know, and that's just the
- 33:28Speaker 5: way that I understand it. Look, coach is in a
- 33:32Speaker 5: very enviable position. He's you know, from from Guas and
- 33:35Speaker 5: then to to Manty and then what coach Carl has
- 33:37Speaker 5: been able to do, He's built this program into something
- 33:41Speaker 5: really kill her, you know it. It's not something necessarily
- 33:44Speaker 5: you just want to fly away from. Even if you
- 33:46Speaker 5: know some big team comes call and it's a it's
- 33:50Speaker 5: really good stuff. I mean, they've they've done a great
- 33:52Speaker 5: job in all the entire unit.
- 33:54Speaker 4: That mos like. I wanted to ask that delicately because
- 33:57Speaker 4: I don't want to be the guy it's like, hey,
- 33:59Speaker 4: you won the national time, where are you going now?
- 34:01Speaker 4: You know, I didn't want to do that, but I
- 34:02Speaker 4: know that, like Chicago was all over him recently, and
- 34:06Speaker 4: it's like, when you have this level of success, it's
- 34:08Speaker 4: always something that's going to be sort of floating out there,
- 34:10Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
- 34:11Speaker 5: But you know what, Yeah, but his aspirations, he's fulfilling
- 34:14Speaker 5: him right now, you know, with what he you know,
- 34:17Speaker 5: with what he wants right now. I think it's awesome.
- 34:19Speaker 5: I me too, so so happy for the Pios and
- 34:21Speaker 5: the entire Pioneer family.
- 34:23Speaker 3: It's great.
- 34:24Speaker 4: So if you missed any of that, it should be
- 34:25Speaker 4: on the podcast shortly, iTunes, Spotify, Mos Lombardi and came
- 34:29Speaker 4: back after this big thanks to National Champion du head
- 34:34Speaker 4: coach David carl joining us. Will be on the podcast
- 34:39Speaker 4: shortly if you missed any of that now, Mos, I
- 34:42Speaker 4: know it's still a ways away, but we're creeping closer
- 34:45Speaker 4: and closer to the NBA playoffs and this matchup with Minnesota,
- 34:49Speaker 4: which is intriguing. Why because they're basically at a dead heat.
- 34:53Speaker 4: I was trying to find this from Dan Hyatt, but
- 34:55Speaker 4: I think I have this right. I believe they're fourteen
- 34:58Speaker 4: and fourteen in the last twenty eight games. Ag it's
- 35:00Speaker 4: each other.
- 35:00Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Vick said that one hundred and fifty seven
- 35:03Speaker 5: times yesterday.
- 35:04Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't get much more even than that type
- 35:09Speaker 4: of matchup. But I will say that this, if you
- 35:13Speaker 4: look at playoffs series, it's more than I think any
- 35:17Speaker 4: other sport just straight up about players, Like it's just
- 35:21Speaker 4: who has the best lineup and the advantage distinct advantage
- 35:26Speaker 4: that you have. If you were to tier out players
- 35:29Speaker 4: in this series, like here's the top, then there's the
- 35:32Speaker 4: next group and the next group. In the next group,
- 35:35Speaker 4: you have a player that's in a tier of his own,
- 35:36Speaker 4: which is Jokic, and as good as Anthony Edwards is,
- 35:39Speaker 4: he is not in Jokich's tier. Jokic in for the
- 35:42Speaker 4: rest of the league is still to me, in a
- 35:44Speaker 4: tier on his own. I think that Jamal is in
- 35:48Speaker 4: the Anthony Edwards tier, by the way, Yeah, I do too.
- 35:51Speaker 4: I think he's there. I think if if Jamal had
- 35:54Speaker 4: the opportunity to be the main guy on a team,
- 35:56Speaker 4: he'd put up twenty eight to night. I think he would.
- 35:59Speaker 4: In fact, he did do that in the month that
- 36:00Speaker 4: Jokic was out. So you have two of the top
- 36:05Speaker 4: three guys in this series, and then there's a pretty
- 36:07Speaker 4: big drop off between you, who you discuss is the fourth, fifth,
- 36:11Speaker 4: sixth best guys in this series, which I think if
- 36:15Speaker 4: I could make a argument for a healthy Aaron Gordon,
- 36:19Speaker 4: I feel like that's pretty close to a Julius Randall,
- 36:22Speaker 4: or pretty close to a Rudy Gobert or whoever you
- 36:25Speaker 4: want to put next in that discussion. Jaden McDaniels, you
- 36:30Speaker 4: got better guys than what Minnesota has. And I think
- 36:33Speaker 4: Vic said something yesterday that is really smart and it
- 36:37Speaker 4: attacks sort of the mentality of players. If you force
- 36:43Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards to play a Joki troll in the sense
- 36:48Speaker 4: of I'm gonna double this guy and make him make
- 36:52Speaker 4: the right play, he.
- 36:55Speaker 3: Can do it.
- 36:56Speaker 4: Anthony Ewards will do it. I don't think he's gonna
- 36:58Speaker 4: do it for seven straight game.
- 37:00Speaker 5: His mentality wants to it's I don't think he wants
- 37:03Speaker 5: to do it for seven straight games. I just think
- 37:05Speaker 5: at some point most he's gonna snap and like, I'm
- 37:09Speaker 5: the alpha on this team. I'm gonna take shots, and
- 37:13Speaker 5: you can't have somebody passing that up over and over
- 37:17Speaker 5: and over again. I think his brain will eat itself,
- 37:20Speaker 5: you know what. I think that's an excellent point. Caterer,
- 37:23Speaker 5: because while it can work for a game, it can
- 37:27Speaker 5: work for a couple of games. Eventually his brain just
- 37:32Speaker 5: will not allow him to defer. You know what I mean,
- 37:36Speaker 5: it's it's i've, I've and you know what part of
- 37:40Speaker 5: that too is And I know it drives as crazy.
- 37:44Speaker 3: I know he does. And I used to really like
- 37:46Speaker 3: the guy.
- 37:46Speaker 5: That's that's sort of sloughed off over the last couple
- 37:50Speaker 5: three two and a half years. But I know he
- 37:54Speaker 5: has a strong desire to win. He's got a strong
- 37:57Speaker 5: desire to be great. I mean, he really wants to
- 37:59Speaker 5: for whatever reason, whether it's ego or.
- 38:01Speaker 3: I have no idea, Yeah, but I think he truly
- 38:04Speaker 3: wants to win.
- 38:05Speaker 5: And I think he feels like, you know what, if
- 38:08Speaker 5: I don't get mine and I don't go off, then
- 38:11Speaker 5: we can't win, we can't achieve the ultimate goal. And
- 38:14Speaker 5: so I think that that pressure, if you're forcing him,
- 38:17Speaker 5: if you're double teaming him and forcing him to give
- 38:19Speaker 5: it up, eventually, that's going to grind the tea, wolves
- 38:24Speaker 5: it down a little bit. That's my opinion. So I
- 38:27Speaker 5: think VIC was one thousand percent on the money with that.
- 38:30Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea. You know that you
- 38:33Speaker 5: start the series that way and maybe you bust him
- 38:36Speaker 5: up early, right before they start to figure things out
- 38:39Speaker 5: on their own. But I completely agree with you. That's
- 38:42Speaker 5: that's how it's probably going to go. Now, the question
- 38:45Speaker 5: is on the other side, with the highest scoring team
- 38:48Speaker 5: in the league, what do you need to do? And
- 38:51Speaker 5: I'm here to tell you that Jamal.
- 38:54Speaker 3: Murray is there. He is absolutely there.
- 39:00Speaker 5: And while they have other good players on the t
- 39:03Speaker 5: pops that can put the ball in the bucket and
- 39:05Speaker 5: so on, if you take away one of these options
- 39:08Speaker 5: for the Nuggets, the other option is going to get off. Yeah,
- 39:11Speaker 5: I'm convinced of that. And because you have that, you've
- 39:15Speaker 5: got the edge big time.
- 39:17Speaker 4: Let me give you some numbers about Jamal and what
- 39:20Speaker 4: he's done this year. Jamal has averaged his best shooting
- 39:24Speaker 4: percentage of his career at forty eight point three, his
- 39:27Speaker 4: best three point percentage at forty three and a half,
- 39:31Speaker 4: his most points per game by four full points at
- 39:34Speaker 4: twenty five and a half, his most rebounds per game
- 39:38Speaker 4: at four point four, his most assists per game at
- 39:41Speaker 4: seven point one. Every single significant category you talk about
- 39:47Speaker 4: about a basketball player, Jamal has been better than ever before.
- 39:51Speaker 4: At that, which means we always have counted on And
- 39:54Speaker 4: he hates when people say this, but it's been the
- 39:57Speaker 4: truth over the last five, six, seven years. Playoff Jamal
- 40:02Speaker 4: is different than regular season Jamal. It's always been that way.
- 40:07Speaker 4: I don't think it has to be this year. He's
- 40:09Speaker 4: playing at such a high level. He doesn't have to
- 40:11Speaker 4: make some sort of seismic jump for the Nuggets to
- 40:15Speaker 4: be at their best.
- 40:16Speaker 5: Brett, If playoff Jamal is like regular season Jamal, you
- 40:21Speaker 5: are going to win basketball games.
- 40:24Speaker 3: That's it. I'm telling you.
- 40:26Speaker 5: If playoff Jamal is anywhere near what he has been
- 40:30Speaker 5: this regular season, you know. I don't know that people
- 40:34Speaker 5: take Jamal Murray for granted and his ability, you know,
- 40:38Speaker 5: to elevate his game. Maybe maybe maybe even I do
- 40:42Speaker 5: at times. But he's been consistently good this year, consistently good.
- 40:47Speaker 5: His off games have really been few and far between.
- 40:52Speaker 5: That boat, dude. That bodes well. And not only that, Listen,
- 40:55Speaker 5: we're a couple three years removed from their title that
- 41:00Speaker 5: hunger starts to build again. I could definitely feel it
- 41:03Speaker 5: with the Abs, and I love that Nathan McKinnon was
- 41:05Speaker 5: so honest about things with me before the season.
- 41:08Speaker 3: Began.
- 41:08Speaker 5: He's like, look, in twenty three, we knew we weren't
- 41:10Speaker 5: gonna win. Twenty four, we knew we weren't gonna win,
- 41:13Speaker 5: you know, I mean, just you could feel what is
- 41:15Speaker 5: a club? Right, He's like, last year we thought we
- 41:18Speaker 5: could win and we gave up a two goal lead
- 41:21Speaker 5: in the third in Game seven in Dallas. They came
- 41:24Speaker 5: in with a hunger this year, Brett, and it's shown
- 41:26Speaker 5: in the record, and it's shown from day one. I mean,
- 41:29Speaker 5: the Avs have been the number one team in the league.
- 41:32Speaker 5: They've held first place for one hundred and forty four
- 41:38Speaker 5: game days. I mean since like November one, they've been
- 41:41Speaker 5: the number one team in the entire league and never
- 41:43Speaker 5: looked back. And so for the Denver Nuggets, that hunger
- 41:47Speaker 5: you can see it's in there now. It's just a
- 41:50Speaker 5: matter of now that you have that depth and you
- 41:53Speaker 5: know guys are back healthy and they haven't played a
- 41:56Speaker 5: ton of minutes together, how does that work and how
- 41:58Speaker 5: do you work it out.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Quickly in order to take advantage of it? Right, That's
- 42:04Speaker 3: what it is.
- 42:04Speaker 4: By the way, if you're counting this as part of
- 42:07Speaker 4: the NBA playoffs, the NBA playoffs do start tonight they.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Have Can you see that Embeid's gone right? You saw that?
- 42:15Speaker 4: Well he had appendicitis or something?
- 42:17Speaker 3: Right, how does appendix out?
- 42:20Speaker 4: But they don't play until tomorrow tonight it's Miami and
- 42:23Speaker 4: Charlotte Importland in Phoenix.
- 42:25Speaker 3: He's not gonna play in the play in I mean
- 42:27Speaker 3: at all.
- 42:28Speaker 4: No, No, I know that I'm saying, but Philly doesn't play
- 42:30Speaker 4: until tomorrow.
- 42:31Speaker 3: My point is this, Well, who.
- 42:35Speaker 4: Cares about Philly?
- 42:36Speaker 3: What?
- 42:36Speaker 5: No, But what I'm saying is that this is what
- 42:39Speaker 5: I'm getting at. I apologize, Brett, this is what I'm
- 42:41Speaker 5: getting at.
- 42:42Speaker 3: Who told you?
- 42:42Speaker 5: I don't think that I think these teams that are
- 42:45Speaker 5: in the play in right now, I think that they
- 42:48Speaker 5: think it's just a waste of time because they're gonna
- 42:51Speaker 5: get smoked anyway.
- 42:52Speaker 4: We really don't tell it to this guy.
- 42:55Speaker 3: What a part of people?
- 42:56Speaker 8: I got a question.
- 42:57Speaker 4: You're ready to show up and show out.
- 42:59Speaker 11: For your horns as they enter the play in tournament?
- 43:02Speaker 5: Oh my god.
- 43:03Speaker 11: No, So, wherever you are in the world, I need
- 43:05Speaker 11: you gonna take your phone, take it off, shoot friend,
- 43:08Speaker 11: the volume pretty loud, and show us to the person
- 43:10Speaker 11: next year. Come on, let's go spend one hundred minty
- 43:12Speaker 11: doubts on a fetball team. Wait a minute, that's not
- 43:15Speaker 11: enough to buy a team. Spend one hundred minty thouts
- 43:17Speaker 11: on a trick out, Sue, get myself something good that
- 43:20Speaker 11: heat done the basketball court outside of my house. But
- 43:22Speaker 11: then he Joey's gonna make me tear every down. I
- 43:25Speaker 11: might get me a horn has found this week. I
- 43:27Speaker 11: mean all access I.
- 43:28Speaker 3: Want, pis.
- 43:29Speaker 4: I gets a retro air j.
- 43:30Speaker 11: Or in one load so I can tell the basketball
- 43:32Speaker 11: in the air for show. I might get you go
- 43:34Speaker 11: and the honey beat so they could do this dance
- 43:37Speaker 11: right here with me. I'm gonna get that high mentality
- 43:40Speaker 11: straight button into Queens City, celt Come on, horn into
- 43:43Speaker 11: time to get downstands up starting in persisted Joe Town.
- 43:49Speaker 4: He changed the lyrics. That's how much she cares about this.
- 43:53Speaker 4: He actually changed the lyrics. He put in Hornets related
- 44:00Speaker 4: lyrics to his song. It doesn't do that for anybody,
- 44:03Speaker 4: all right.
- 44:05Speaker 5: Nobody wants to win. Nobody thinks it's worth their time
- 44:09Speaker 5: at all, except maybe the Hornets their ownership group, because
- 44:14Speaker 5: they're gonna get some home game revenue if they get in.
- 44:18Speaker 3: And that guy. Everybody else thinks it's a waste of time.
- 44:22Speaker 4: Not him. What is this guy's name, Nelly, it's Carolina
- 44:27Speaker 4: m C. I think no, his actual now just you
- 44:30Speaker 4: don't say the actual name.
- 44:32Speaker 8: No, his user name on Twitter is just Carolina mic I.
- 44:35Speaker 4: Believe all right, got you? I'll tell you what mos.
- 44:39Speaker 4: That guy cares. That guy cares a lot.
- 44:43Speaker 3: Outside of that guy, he wants to get the player.
- 44:47Speaker 4: He wants to get a vipte sweet so he can
- 44:49Speaker 4: get something good to eat.
- 44:51Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'm not sure you need a luxury suite
- 44:54Speaker 3: to do that. But it can't hurt. It can't hurt.
- 44:58Speaker 4: H three oh three five five four oh nine two
- 45:01Speaker 4: five Nuggets Playoff Ticket Thursday playoffs are here, and that
- 45:06Speaker 4: means playoff ticket Thursdays are back. Be listening Thursday for
- 45:10Speaker 4: the keywords on the twenties for your chance to win
- 45:13Speaker 4: some Nuggets playoff ticks one hundred and fifty thousand whatever.
- 45:17Speaker 4: Uh three oh three, five oh four oh nine two
- 45:19Speaker 4: five back after this