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The Stone Zone with Roger Stone - Cassidy Hutchinson’s Grand Jury Free Pass · Stampede of Truth

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  Speaker 1: The Stone Zone. Entertaining and informative. On the Red Apple
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone. People love
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  Speaker 2: him and respect him. Roger Stone. Now, give him his own.
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  Speaker 2: It's The Stone Zone. Here's Roger Stone.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome. You are now entering the Stone Zone. Do you
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  Speaker 3: remember Cassidy Hutchinson? I don't blame you if you don't,
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  Speaker 3: but Cassidy Hutchinson was one of the star witnesses for
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  Speaker 3: the January 6th committee, a farce in which Nancy Pelosi,
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  Speaker 3: the Speaker of the House, appointed a committee with no
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  Speaker 3: Trump-supporting Republicans in an effort to frame Donald Trump regarding
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  Speaker 3: January 6th. Cassidy Hutchinson specifically said in her sworn testimonies,
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  Speaker 3: that the White House Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows, that
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  Speaker 3: was her boss, ordered her to call Roger Stone and
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  Speaker 3: General Michael Flynn on January 5th to find out what
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  Speaker 3: was going to happen on January 6th. There was only
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  Speaker 3: one tiny problem. There never was any such phone call.
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  Speaker 3: The truth is, I don't think I've ever communicated with
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  Speaker 3: Mark Meadows. I may have met him once in the
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  Speaker 3: green room at Fox back when he was a congressman.
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  Speaker 3: and before Donald Trump was president. But I didn't communicate
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  Speaker 3: him on that day or any other day. I checked
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  Speaker 3: with General Flynn, and he didn't either. So that testimony,
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  Speaker 3: which was riveting on public television, was a complete and
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  Speaker 3: total lie. It was perjury, false statements, false statements to Congress,
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  Speaker 3: what they specifically falsely accused me of. She also went
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  Speaker 3: on to say that Meadows had intended to attend a
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  Speaker 3: meeting in a war room at the Willard Hotel on
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  Speaker 3: the evening of January 5th, that she had dissuaded Meadows
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  Speaker 3: from going there. Those allegedly there included Mayor Rudy Giuliani,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Bannon, and others, and that she persuaded Meadows to call,
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  Speaker 3: once again, Roger Stone and General Flynn to get a
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  Speaker 3: download on how the meeting had gone. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: if there was any such war room at the Willard
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  Speaker 3: Hotel on the eve of January 6th, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about it, and I certainly was never in one. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'd be in the same room with
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  Speaker 3: Steve Bannon, in all honesty. And then secondarily, there was
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  Speaker 3: no such call to ask for. So those are two
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  Speaker 3: material lies designed to hook General Flynn and I into
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  Speaker 3: the January 6th conspiracy. Now, what's incredible, and she also
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  Speaker 3: went on to tell us a tall tale about Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump in his limousine in the backseat, but trying to
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  Speaker 3: grab the steering wheel and get control of it from
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  Speaker 3: a Secret Service agent when they refused to take him
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  Speaker 3: to the Capitol. That has been completely and totally debunked
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  Speaker 3: as well. Interestingly enough, Hutchinson went back, which you can do,
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  Speaker 3: and she altered her sworn testimony several times in an
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  Speaker 3: effort to avoid a perjury indictment. But it turns out
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  Speaker 3: she didn't need to be too worried because it's also
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  Speaker 3: placed in D.C. A grand jury has now declined to
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  Speaker 3: indict former White House staffer Cassidy Hutchinson on her testimony
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  Speaker 3: about President Trump's alleged conduct during the January 6th riots
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  Speaker 3: of Capitol Hill in 2021. The Justice Department sought to
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  Speaker 3: prosecute Hutchinson for reasons that have not been made clear
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  Speaker 3: due to the confidentiality of the case, but President Trump
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  Speaker 3: and I, among others, have previously accused her of lying
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  Speaker 3: under oath during a testimony about January 6th before the
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  Speaker 3: House Committee. I just specified very specifically the lies you
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  Speaker 3: told about me and General Flynn. Now, sources close to
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  Speaker 3: the case confirmed to the Associated Press that the grand
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  Speaker 3: jury in D.C. has declined to prosecute while providing very
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  Speaker 3: few details. A grand jury in Washington, D.C. has rejected
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  Speaker 3: the prosecutor's request to return an indictment against Cassidy Hutchinson,
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  Speaker 3: said the people who spoke to the Associated Press on
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  Speaker 3: condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to publicly discuss
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  Speaker 3: the case. Details of prosecutors' allegations against Hutchinson were not
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  Speaker 3: immediately clear, but Republican lawmakers have accused her about lying
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  Speaker 3: under oath in her explosive testimony in 2022 about the
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  Speaker 3: president's specific behavior. You'll remember this. She described an angry,
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  Speaker 3: defiant president who was trying to let armed protesters avoid
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  Speaker 3: security screens at a rally that morning to protest his
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  Speaker 3: 2020 election defeat, and who later grabbed at the steering
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  Speaker 3: wheel the presidential SUV when the Secret Service refused to
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  Speaker 3: let him go to Capitol Hill. And when the events
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  Speaker 3: at the Capitol spiraled towards violence, with the crowd chanting,
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  Speaker 3: hang Mike Pence, she testified that Trump declined to intervene. Hutchinson,
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  Speaker 3: as I say, did admit during testimony that she was
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  Speaker 3: only relaying information she had obtained from a House security official,
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  Speaker 3: White House security official, emphasizing these were not her personal eyewitnesses.
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  Speaker 3: So in other words, it was what they call hearsay.
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  Speaker 3: All of her testimony was hearsay. In the case of
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  Speaker 3: her charges against me and General Flynn, they were completely fabricated,
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  Speaker 3: I suspect, by Liz Cheney, who coached her through those
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  Speaker 3: false statements. President Trump has called Cassidy Hutchinson a total phony.
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  Speaker 3: and bad news, denying her allegations. Back in 2024, House
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  Speaker 3: Republicans also released a transcript of the January 6th committee's
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  Speaker 3: interview with the Secret Service officer who drove the presidential
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  Speaker 3: SUV that day, which contradicted most of Hutchinson's claims. While
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  Speaker 3: the driver did say that President Trump was insistent about
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  Speaker 3: going to the Capitol during the riot, He rejected any
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  Speaker 3: claim that the president tried to grab the steering wheel.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't see him, you know, a lunge to try
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  Speaker 3: to get into the front seat at all, the driver said. Now,
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  Speaker 3: according to Fox News, the federal grand jury had heard
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  Speaker 3: evidence concerning possible false statements Hutchinson made to the congressional committee.
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  Speaker 3: The grand jury's decision not to indict Hutchinson does not
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  Speaker 3: establish whether her congressional testimony was truthful or false. Hutchinson
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  Speaker 3: has previously maintained that she stands by her testimony. It added, Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of the Justice Department's actions so
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  Speaker 3: far against James Comey, John Brennan, Eric Swalwell and others.
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  Speaker 3: But I think in all honesty, in this case, they
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  Speaker 3: got it wrong. The evidence against Scott C. Hutch is real.
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  Speaker 3: And she was an important tool of those waging lawfare
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  Speaker 3: on President Trump following the events of January 6th. Her
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  Speaker 3: lies were used to build a false narrative in Congress
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  Speaker 3: and in the media. Among her most outrageous claims, repeated
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  Speaker 3: as a fact by media outlets that never bought the check,
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  Speaker 3: was her testimony under questioning by Liz Cheney that President
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  Speaker 3: Trump instructed, as I say, Mark Meadows, to call me
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  Speaker 3: and General Flynn on the evening of January 5th to
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  Speaker 3: find out what was going to happen on January 6th.
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  Speaker 3: That was her impression, she said, that those calls were completed.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the actual exchange from January 28th. Liz Cheney. So,
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  Speaker 3: the night before January 6th, President Trump instructed Chief of
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  Speaker 3: Staff Mark Meadows to contact both Roger Stone and Michael
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  Speaker 3: Flynn regarding what would play out the next day.
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  Speaker 4: Ms.
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  Speaker 3: Hutchinson, is it your understanding that President Trump asked Mark
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  Speaker 3: Meadows to speak with Roger Stone and General Flynn on
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  Speaker 3: January 5th? Hutchinson says, that's correct. That's my understanding. Now,
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  Speaker 3: Liz Cheney says, and Ms. Hutchinson, is it your understanding
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  Speaker 3: that Mr. Meadows called Mr. Stone on the 5th? Hutchinson said,
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  Speaker 3: I'm under the impression that Mr. Meadows did complete both
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  Speaker 3: a call to Mr. Stone and General Flynn on the
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  Speaker 3: evening of January 5th. Do you know what they talked
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  Speaker 3: about that evening? Cheney asks Hutchinson. Hutchinson says, I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: This is a lie. There never were any such calls.
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  Speaker 3: There are no phone records to support the claim. Neither
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  Speaker 3: General Flynn or I have ever spoken or communicated, as
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  Speaker 3: I say, with Meadows. As I said, I think I
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  Speaker 3: met him once back when he was a congressman. That's
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  Speaker 3: the full extent of our contact. General Flynn has confirmed
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  Speaker 3: to me that he's never had any phone conversation with
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  Speaker 3: Meadows either. So there was no call on January 5th,
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  Speaker 3: no coordination, and no discussion of what would happen the
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  Speaker 3: next day. A secondary claim about the so-called war room
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  Speaker 3: at the Willard Hotel, to get this exactly right, Cheney says,
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  Speaker 3: is your understanding that Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Eastman, that's John Eastman,
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  Speaker 3: the attorney, who I've never met, and others have set
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  Speaker 3: up what we call a war room in the Willard
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  Speaker 3: Hotel on the night of the 5th. Hutchison says, I
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  Speaker 3: was aware of that. the night of the 5th. Now
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  Speaker 3: Cheney says, how do you know if Mr. Meadows ever
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  Speaker 3: intended to go to the Willard Hotel on the night
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  Speaker 3: of the 5th? And Hutchison says, Mr. Meadows had a
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  Speaker 3: conversation with me that he wanted to work with Secret
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  Speaker 3: Service on a movement from the White House to the
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  Speaker 3: Willard Hotel so he could attend a meeting or meetings
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  Speaker 3: with Mr. Giuliani and his associates in the war room.
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  Speaker 3: Now Cheney says, and what was your view as to
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  Speaker 3: whether Mr. Meadows should go to the Willard that night?
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  Speaker 3: Hutchinson says, I made it clear to Mr. Meadows that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't believe it was a smart idea for him
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  Speaker 3: to go to the Willard Hotel that night. I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: sure that everything was going on in the Willard Hotel,
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  Speaker 3: although I knew enough about Mr. Giuliani's associates were pushing
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  Speaker 3: towards this period. I assume she's referring to an effort
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  Speaker 3: to delay the certification of the election. But then again,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't know because I wasn't in any war room.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it was something appropriate for the White
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  Speaker 3: House chief of staff to attend or to consider involvement
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  Speaker 3: in and made that clear to Mr. Meadows. This is
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  Speaker 3: Hutchinson speaking. So throughout the afternoon, he mentioned a few
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  Speaker 3: more times going to the Woodland Hotel that evening, and
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  Speaker 3: eventually he dropped the subject the night of the 5th
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  Speaker 3: and said that he would just dial in instead. She
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  Speaker 3: then claimed she talked Meadows out of attending in person,
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  Speaker 3: and he later got a briefing from Stone and Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: There's her second big lie regarding me. There is no
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  Speaker 3: such telephonic briefing. How could I brief somebody about a
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  Speaker 3: meeting I was never in? I'm never aware of a
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  Speaker 3: war room. It's interesting that the Washington Post later confirms
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  Speaker 3: that among those who were in a war room, They
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  Speaker 3: cannot confirm my attendance because, frankly, I wasn't there. I
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  Speaker 3: gave a speech on the night of the 5th. I
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  Speaker 3: would urge you to go look at it on YouTube
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  Speaker 3: because I specifically called on those in Washington to avoid
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  Speaker 3: being baited into violence. But strangely, YouTube took that down.
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  Speaker 3: So I think this is outrageous. It is perfectly clear
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  Speaker 3: that Cassidy Hutchinson lied under coaching by Liz Cheney. and
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  Speaker 3: lied about the president's conduct on the January 6th. She
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  Speaker 3: has avoided indictment. This proves to us again that we
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  Speaker 3: have a two-tiered justice system. In the meantime, I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was a brilliant idea President Donald Trump announced that
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  Speaker 3: anyone who who reports voter fraud, whether from past elections
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  Speaker 3: or the upcoming November 3rd elections, will receive $ 1 million
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  Speaker 3: if the tip leads to an arrest and a conviction.
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  Speaker 3: The statement came one week after Election Day and it
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  Speaker 3: stepped up federal efforts to obtain state voter registration data
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  Speaker 3: and examine potentially ineligible voters. A number of big blue
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  Speaker 3: states still continue to hand over their voter lists to
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  Speaker 3: the Department of Justice so that they may be matched
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  Speaker 3: against lists of known illegal immigrants. President Trump said the
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  Speaker 3: award applies to both historical and current cases. Some Democrat
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  Speaker 3: state election officials have warned that the announcement could generate
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  Speaker 3: unsubstantiated claims and complicate local administration. But that sounds like
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  Speaker 3: just another smokescreen meant to keep the fraud under wraps
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  Speaker 3: that they rely upon to win their elections. offer places
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  Speaker 3: a concrete financial incentive on producing prosecutable evidence rather than
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  Speaker 3: anonymous social media accusations. Federal investigators have already charged dozens
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  Speaker 3: of non-citizens in multiple states for illegal voting or false
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  Speaker 3: citizenship claims in recent election cycles. While the million-dollar figure
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  Speaker 3: is paid from personal funds, a designated program or some
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  Speaker 3: other mechanism has not been detailed. So the announcement itself
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  Speaker 3: signals the administration intends to treat documented illegal voting as
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  Speaker 3: a priority that carries real consequences for those who are convicted.
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  Speaker 3: Democrats' rigging apparatus has shown itself almost despicably in 2020,
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  Speaker 3: is getting shut down, and they know it. Any Democrat
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  Speaker 3: fraudsters who are considering any changes next week may take
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  Speaker 3: Trump's offer as a deterrent. Meanwhile, the FBI has searched
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  Speaker 3: the Beverly Hills mansion of billionaire donor Eric Swalwell. Remember him?
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  Speaker 3: He was the guy who accused me of being a
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  Speaker 3: Russian agent for almost two and a half years as
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  Speaker 3: a member of the House Intelligence Committee. Ultimately, he was
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  Speaker 3: forced out of a race for governor of California after
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  Speaker 3: accusations of sexual assault and harassment. Swalwell, you may recall,
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  Speaker 3: was also connected to a Chinese communist spy named Fang
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  Speaker 3: Fang that he was having a sexual relationship with. I
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  Speaker 3: would say that he penetrated Fang Fang, and Fang Fang
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  Speaker 3: penetrated his office, putting two employees into the congressman's office,
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  Speaker 3: significant because Eric Swalwell was a member of the House
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  Speaker 3: Intelligence Committee, where he was entitled to all of the
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  Speaker 3: classified documents. We now know that Swalwell spent time at
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  Speaker 3: this property before leaving Congress. The FBI confirmed the operation
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  Speaker 3: in which they raided this home in D.C., It's connected
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  Speaker 3: to a current probe of Swalwell's activities. It is clear
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  Speaker 3: that he is finished politically. What I don't understand is
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  Speaker 3: when he left Congress and decided to run for governor,
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  Speaker 3: it looked like he began taking style tips from Steve Bannon.
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  Speaker 3: In other words, he stopped bathing, he stopped shaving, he
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  Speaker 3: stopped washing his hair. I guess there are some who
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  Speaker 3: can think that the wino-sheep look has some constituency within
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  Speaker 3: the Democrat primary, but Swalwell ended up dropping out of
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  Speaker 3: the race. over questions of his legality as a candidate,
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  Speaker 3: didn't really have a home in California, as well as
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  Speaker 3: the allegations of sexual assault. I'm Roger Stone. You're listening
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  Speaker 3: to Stone Zone. Don't go away because we'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 2: The Stone Zone This is The Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
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  Speaker 4: Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest
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  Speaker 4: political minds. Roger Stone was persecuted. People forget he's actually
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  Speaker 4: a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
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  Speaker 2: Now, give him a zone. It's The Stone Zone. Here's
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  Speaker 2: Roger Stone.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back into The Stone Zone. You may recall after
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  Speaker 3: the first round of the presidential race in Brazil, when
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  Speaker 3: Senator Flavio Bolsonaro son of the former president, imprisoned President
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  Speaker 3: Jair Bolsonaro, won the first round. I predicted that President Lula,
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  Speaker 3: a communist, would win the second round. I was told
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  Speaker 3: by a number of conservatives I was wrong. But that's
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  Speaker 3: exactly what happened. It's an old trick. I remember when
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats lost the governorship of Connecticut and they figured
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  Speaker 3: it out. They got a court to order the polling
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  Speaker 3: places in Bridgeport to remain open for an additional three
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  Speaker 3: hours while they rounded up enough votes to steal the governorship.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much the same thing happened in Brazil in their election.
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  Speaker 3: when the government, the Supreme Court, which is headed by
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  Speaker 3: President Lula's former personal attorney and a true tyrant named Moraes,
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  Speaker 3: ordered the polls in certain precincts opened so that the
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  Speaker 3: election could be stolen from the younger Bolsonaro. What's even
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  Speaker 3: more shocking is, within hours of the election being over,
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  Speaker 3: they ordered Flavio Bolsonaro's passport to be revoked, and they
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  Speaker 3: set out to arrest him for objecting to the election result. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 3: Marco Rubio and Donald Trump were two steps ahead. Senator
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  Speaker 3: Flavio Bolsonaro was extracted from Brazil, flown first to Argentina,
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  Speaker 3: then from Argentina to Ecuador, and from Ecuador to the
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  Speaker 3: United States. The senator landed in Miami after the Brazilian
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  Speaker 3: federal police had seized his airport and tried to impose
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  Speaker 3: travel restrictions following his narrow departure. runoff defeat, this is
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  Speaker 3: an outrage. Of course, Lula is taunting Donald Trump on video,
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  Speaker 3: and it's very clear that nothing will be done in
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  Speaker 3: this particular instance. There is little question, however, that people
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  Speaker 3: need to understand that this arresting of any critic of
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  Speaker 3: the Lula government, whether they're intellectuals, whether they're artists, whether
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  Speaker 3: they're political figures, or whether there are members of parties
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  Speaker 3: other than President Lula's. There is no question that Brazil
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  Speaker 3: is the most authoritarian regime now in our hemisphere, and
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  Speaker 3: it is good to see President Trump's willingness to receive
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  Speaker 3: Bolsonaro because it's consistent with his earlier decisions to offer
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  Speaker 3: refuge to political figures facing prosecution from left-wing governments. In
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  Speaker 3: a tragic case, Flavio's father, Jair, the former president, is
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  Speaker 3: already still behind bars under dubious circumstances. President Trump was
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  Speaker 3: right to take action to make sure the same cannot
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  Speaker 3: be done to his son, in my view. Before long,
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  Speaker 3: hopefully Flavio will be able to make his heroic return
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  Speaker 3: to Brazil to liberate his people from the tyranny they
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  Speaker 3: are enduring. Lula is an international criminal, similar to Nicolas Maduro,
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  Speaker 3: and taking intervention to remove him under the Monroe Doctrine
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  Speaker 3: would not be a bad idea. Meanwhile, 175 House Democrats
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  Speaker 3: demand a halt to Ilhan Omar's investigation before the midterms.
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  Speaker 3: How convenient. now that we are hitting pay dirt, proving
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  Speaker 3: that she lied on the naturalization papers, and the government
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  Speaker 3: of Somalia is refusing to cooperate in the investigation, it's
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  Speaker 3: very clear that we're on the road to not only
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  Speaker 3: expelling her from the Congress, but also shipping her back
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  Speaker 3: where she came from. If you came to the United
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  Speaker 3: States illegally, if you lied on your naturalization documents, you
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  Speaker 3: should be held responsible. 175 House Democrats don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder why. I'm Roger Stone. Listen to Stone Zone.
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  Speaker 3: Don't go away because I'll be right back.
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  Speaker 1: The Stone Zone, entertaining and informative on the Red Apple
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  Speaker 1: Podcast Network.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: The Stone Zone.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: This is the Stone Zone with Roger Stone.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Roger Stone, who's a very, very, one of the smartest
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: political minds. Roger Stone was persecuted. People forget he's actually
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Now, give him a zone. It's the Stone Zone. Here's
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  Speaker 2: Roger Stone.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back into the Stone Zone. A third federal case
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  Speaker 3: against former FBI Director James Comey, which was unsolved Monday.
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  Speaker 3: centers once again on evidence that the former FBI director
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  Speaker 3: allegedly directed his staff to leak classified information to the press. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what's significant is that he testified before Congress very specifically
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  Speaker 3: and asked that question, whether he had ever shared data
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  Speaker 3: with a third party and directed them to leak that
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  Speaker 3: to the media, and he said no. There is, as
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  Speaker 3: we know, the case that was brought in the Eastern
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  Speaker 3: District of Virginia. ultimately dismissed, not because it was adjudicated,
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  Speaker 3: but because the judges objected to the appointment of the
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  Speaker 3: temporary U.S. attorney, Lindsey Halligan. The criminal information filing submitted
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: to the court by prosecutors earlier this month and made
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: public this past Monday contains allegations that Comey communicated or
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: transmitted national defense information to an individual not cleared to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: receive it, in this case, a reporter. The new case,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: filed under seal on October 5th in federal court in Washington, D.C.,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: also includes charges alleging that Comey conspired with others to
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: leak the information. It alleges that Comey, through one or
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: more conspirators, directed a person only identified in the documents
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: as individual number one to disclose the information to a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: reporter of a national news publication. Prosecutors later identified the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: unnamed reporter as Charlie Savage of the New York Times,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: according to an October 23rd government filing which was unsealed
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: along with the criminal information filing. The story referenced in
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the case is Savage's October 5th, 2016 article headline, Yahoo
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: said to have aided U.S. email surveillance by adapting spam filter,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: which describes how Yahoo complied with a secret foreign intelligence
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: surveillance court order to scan customers' emails. The United States
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: investigation has uncovered evidence that former FBI director James B. Comey,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: the Cardinal, they called him, sought to correct misinformation which
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: had appeared in the press by way of Reuters the
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: day before. Special Assistant U.S. Attorney Dustin Farinock wrote in
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: subsequent filings that the investigation uncovered evidence that Mr. Comey
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: directed staff to speak to Mr. Savage in the New
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: York Times about specific accuracy concerns related to the Reuters
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: article and thereby alluded to the transfer of classified information.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So you see what we have here is a classic
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: example of Comey, who is without any question one of
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: the biggest criminals in the Obama directed Russian collusion hoax.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: And this incredible hypocrisy. I saw him on video yesterday
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: once again saying the charges against him are political. U.S.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: District Judge Trevor McFadden unsealed this case against Comey on
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Monday at Comey's request, writing that criminal charges against the
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: former FBI director for his conduct while in office are
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: of significant public interest. Comey, who has, of course, denied
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: all wrongdoing in the three cases pending against him, of course,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: responded in that video post I saw yesterday. Well, they're
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: back again, he said. It would almost be funny if
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: it weren't such an appalling abuse of the Department of
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Justice one that we cannot become numb to. I'm still innocent.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I'm still not afraid of these people. This is the
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  Speaker 3: guy who, on the one hand, says he's nonpolitical. On
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the other hand, was seen wearing a Kamala Harris for
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: President t-shirt in one of his videos. A federal felony
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: charge is ordinarily brought by a grand jury indictment. A
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: criminal information filing, which is what we have here, by contrast,
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: is filed by prosecutors alone without a grand jury's vote
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: or a judge's finding a probable cause. Comey cannot face
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: trial on criminal information alone unless he waives indictment. The
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Justice Department said it filed the information on the anniversary
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: article to keep the 10-year statute of limitations from expiring
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: while it continues to pursue the case. This is a
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: very clever move by Attorney General Todd Blanche. Comey's lawyers
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: moved earlier this month to dismiss the case entirely, arguing
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: that both counts are based exclusively on the October 5, 2016,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: alleged disclosures exactly 10 years before the government filed their
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: criminal information. The applicable statute of limitations explicitly demands an
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: indictment within 10 years of the offense. An information filing
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: does not suffice, they wrote. An indictment fundamentally different from
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: an information filing. The judge hasn't ruled on that motion.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Comey's attorney, Patrick Fitzgerald, a former U.S. attorney, a big,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: deep stater, said the leak had already been examined and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: closed twice. His most recent case involves an October 5, 2016,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: New York Times article that two different teams of prosecutors
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: investigated during the first Trump administration, Fitzgerald said. Both times,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: the government determined that no charges should be brought against anyone.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Just the news, however, previously reported by declassified FBI memos
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: detailed in tropic vortex, a classified leak investigation that then U.S.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Attorney John Durham and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service opened
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: back in March of 2017. The D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: later took it over and declined to prosecute. That was
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: January of 2020. The timing of those memos line up
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: with the information provided in the unsealed court documents this week,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: but it's not clear if both are referring to the
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: same articles. The memos say Tropic Vortex, centered on an
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: October 2016 New York Times article, that cited two government sources,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: one of them at that time FBI General Counsel James Baker,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: another key player in the Russian collusion hoax. The USPIS
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: investigation also revealed that Baker disclosed U.S. government classified information
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: in the New York Times under the belief that he
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: was ultimately instructed and authorized to do so by the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: FBI director, James Comey. For example, during interviews, Baker indicated
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: the FBI chief of staff, James Rybicki, instructed him, Baker,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to disclose the information in the New York Times, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Baker understood that Rybicki was conveying this instruction and authorization
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: from Comey. Therefore, when Comey testified to Congress under oath
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: saying he had never given permission or instructed any third
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: party to leak classified information, he was lying. What I
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: don't understand, since Comey and I were both charged with
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the exact same crime, is why James Comey was given
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: 10 days after they announced his indictment to turn him
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: in privately with his attorney. In other words, why didn't
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: 29 heavily armed FBI agents... brandishing fully automatic, semi-automatic assault rifles,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: surround his home at 6 o'clock in the morning with
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: a Fox television crew in tow, because that's how they
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: treated me. Clearly, we were charged with the exact same crime,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: but we did not face arrest in the same way.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: To me, there is a perfect example of the two-tiered
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: justice system. These new charging documents don't really name who
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: individual won or the alleged co-conspirators and prosecutors have said
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: whether the case grows out of a tropic vortex or not.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Comey's first indictment was back in September of 2025. It
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: also centered on media leaks. It charged that he lied
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: to Congress in 2020 when he denied authorizing anyone at
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Sources previously reported the person Comey allegedly authorized was his
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: friend in FBI special government employment, Daniel Richman. Richman told
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: agents in a separate leak probe, codenamed Arctic Haze, that
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: he had communicated with the New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a guy who, by the way, got a Pulitzer Prize
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: for his coverage of the Russian collusion hoax, and should
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: now take that prize and give it back. If it's
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: not given back, well, it should be taken from him.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: It turns out that everything he wrote turned out to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: be wrong. The Russian collusion hoax is the biggest single
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: abusive power and dirty trick in American political history. In
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: this case... it's very clear that Richmond leaked the stories
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to Michael Schmidt of the New York Times in direct
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: violation of the law and contrary to Comey's sworn testimony.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: So the real question you have to ask here is,
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: in the end, will any of these people who engaged
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: in the greatest criminal conspiracy in the country's history in
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: terms of abuse of power, will any of them actually
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: face justice? As you know, we have a grand jury
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: in South Florida that is trying to make a case
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: on seditious conspiracy. The biggest problem for bringing any of
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: these people, whether it is Obama or Biden or Susan Rice,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the National Security Advisor at the time, or General James Clapper,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: the Director of National Intelligence, the aforementioned FBI Director James Comey,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: or CIA Director John Brennan, he's the guy who knew
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: that the so-called Steele dossier was a fraud, but still
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: put it in the president's daily intelligence brief to create
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller as a
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: federal special prosecutor to try to destroy Donald Trump in
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: his first term, almost destroyed me in his wake. Will
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: any of these people ultimately be held accountable? The problem
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: is that in many cases, the statute of limitations has run.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: In other words, their time barred. The only case that
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: would be different would be a seditious conspiracy case. In
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: other words, if you could prove that there was one
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: seditious conspiracy that began in July of 2016, takes us
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: all the way through the Russian collusion hoax, two, we
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: now know, completely phony impeachment attempts on Donald Trump, the
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: after the 2020 election, the so-called documents case where they
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: raided President Donald Trump's home, I believe to get back
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: documents that proved their involvement in the Russian collusion hoax,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: and then arctic frost attempting to blame President Donald Trump
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: for the actions of January 6th. Whether anybody here is
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: going to be held to account remains to be seen.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: I will be keeping an eye on all these Comey cases.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Comey is a key figure in the deep state, and
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: his face will say a lot about what the nation
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: is about to happen and the sabotage of the presidency
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: under Donald Trump and what I've called, again, the single
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: greatest dirty trick in American political history. Meanwhile, detransitioner Zoran
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Alcaldo said Monday that she tried to attend a CNN
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: town hall with Democrat Texas president Candidate James Tallarico, the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: earliest one, the organizer told her she could not participate
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the night before the event. Aldaco, who is suing as
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: a therapist and counsel providing regarding the double mastectomy she
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: received to resemble a man, told podcast host Katie Miller
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: she was hoping to question Tallarico on his stance regarding
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: so-called gender-affirming care. She went on testosterone for a time
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: under her own care. He needs to have a long-form conversation,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: a real face-to-face with somebody like me, Al Daco said,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: according to Fox News. I tried when he did the
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: CNN town hall where he did Prove Me Wrong, Steve
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Crowder format, engaging with constituents, right? He tried to get
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: me in that room to talk to him about this
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: issue and be able to give him my message through conversation,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: which I think is most effective. They actually didn't get
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: back to us until the evening before and said, no,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: we can't have you in the room. See, what's going
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: on here is James Tallarico is a strong supporter of
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: taxpayer financing transition, gender transition of our children. But now
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: he's trying to reposition himself as a moderate. This is
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: like him saying at one time that Jesus Christ was binary.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: He's often said that there are seven or eight genders.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: So he's backed off all of these claims in an
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: effort to appear more moderate. And the polls have continued
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: to show an exceedingly close race in Texas. Now, you
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: can see why in the CNN Tower Hall, Tallarico would
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: not want somebody who is transgendered in the room asking
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: him about that because of his past record in legislature
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and his past public support for taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries. This
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: has become a very big issue. I have a hard
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: time believing... that in very red Texas, that this race
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: is as close as it is. Once again, I want
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: to warn you about these betting sites, whether it's Kaoshi
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: or whether it's Polymarket. This is not polling. This is entertainment. So,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: for example, about three or four days ago, there was
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: a 67% probability, according to Polymarket, that James Talrico would
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: win the Texas Senate race. Once again, this is not
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: a poll poll. a legitimate poll of a subset of
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Texas voters drawn scientifically and conducted with the proper methodology.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: This is an entertainment site in which people place bets
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: based on the day's news or how they feel. And therefore,
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I think there's much too much being read into this
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: as these polls across the country, as the bend markets
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: seem to be taking the place of legitimate polling. Polls
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: seem to claim, in some cases, that Tallarico has a
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: commanding lead. I beg to differ. A real polling shows,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: despite his historically favorable condition for Democrats, Democrats are polling
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: about even with Republicans. In the end, I think that
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, will pull this race out.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: In a state like Texas, the idea that James Tallarico, who,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: by the way, is a vegan, among other things, based
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: on their results on betting sites, is going to win.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: It's absolutely wrong. I'm Roger Stone. We're talking politics right
• 32:50
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• 32:52
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  Speaker 4: Roger Stone, who is a very, very, one of the
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: smartest political minds. Roger Stone was persecuted. People forget he's
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: actually a brilliant, brilliant political analyst.
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  Speaker 2: Now, give him a zone. It's The Stone Zone. Here's
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• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I'm Roger Stone, and we're back in The Stone Zone.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: You know, if there is any villain here in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Obama-Biden days, there's no bigger villain than John Brennan. John
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Brennan was the former CIA director who actually converted to
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: radical Muslim when he was the CIA station chief in Riyadh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: according to at least two witnesses, including the former FBI
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: counterterrorism expert John Guandolo. Monday on MSNBC, which now calls
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: itself MSNOW, former CIA director John Brennan said that President
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Attorney General Child Blanchard are attempting to, quote, until, unquote,
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: the 2026 midterm elections. Brennan said, well, the office of
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: the presidency has tremendous authorities that can use the executive
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: branch as we've seen, whether it be the Department of
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Justice or ICE or other elements of the Department of
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Homeland Security to disrupt the day of the election or
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: to actually challenge the certification afterwards. So I think Donald
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Trump is, unfortunately, going to do whatever it takes to
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: get away with it. And unfortunately, we have people like
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Todd Blanche, who I think is just showing how devious
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: a lawyer is by trying to to defend the indefensible,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: because the things he's been saying on the talk shows
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: this weekend, I think, certainly show that he has an
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: unprincipled view and attitude towards his job as Attorney General.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: This would be lackable if it wasn't so serious. Brennan
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: then added, these elections are so critically important, and it's
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: rather curious as to why all elections that go Donald
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Trump's way, he has no problems with, in terms of
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: saying that they were fraudulently achieved. Anytime it goes against him,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: or his preferred outcome, he claims fraud. He claims a
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: rigged election. He claims some type of interference. So again,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it just shows that Donald Trump has no interest in
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: a clear outcome of the election. What he's looking for
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: is any ways that he can tilt it towards the Republicans.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: This is Brennan that I'm quoting, who continue to bow
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: in genuine respect to him, remaining in control of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: House as well as the Senate. By the way, it's
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: almost certain that Brennan himself perjured himself before the House
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Intelligence Committee in May of 2017, at a minimum, when
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: he denied any knowledge of the origins of the phony
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Steele dossier. That was the fake report that accused Donald
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Trump of dallying with Russian prostitutes while visiting Moscow as
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: a private businessman. We now know that that report was
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: a fraud, commissioned and paid for by Hillary Clinton. But
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: the point is, John Brennan knew that in 2017, and
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Andrew Weissman, who was the de facto head of the
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Mueller investigation, knew it back when he was the general
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: counsel to the FBI. So both of them lied under
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: oath about this, but it was Brennan who then forced
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: the Steele dossier assessment that the Russians were attempting to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: influence the 2016 election, specifically via the Trump campaign, into
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Barack Obama's Daily Intelligence Summary Report. That provided the legal
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: rationale for the appointment of Robert Mueller in the worst
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: scandal in American history, the Russian collusion hoax. Brennan testified,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: the information intelligence revealed that contacts and interactions between Russian
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: officials and U.S. persons involved in the Trump campaign that
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I was concerned about because of known Russian efforts to
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: suborn such elections. It raised questions in my mind about
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: whether the Russians were able to gain the cooperation of
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: such individuals. Now, when Congressman Trey Gowdy asked Brennan directly
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: about any evidence that Trump officials concluded with the Kremlin,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Brennan said, I don't know. I don't know whether there
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: is such evidence. Well, that's better than Adam Schiff. Adam
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Schiff said that he had seen more than circumstantial evidence
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: of Russian collusion, yet he never produced any such thing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Now the same Adam Schiff is back saying that Donald
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Trump should be impeached for corruption. This is the same
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Adam Schiff who turned out to claim that his principal
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: residence was in California, a part when he actually lived
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: in Maryland, to avoid paying taxes. Once again, we see
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: a two-tiered justice system. I'm Roger Stone. Until tomorrow, God
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: bless you and God bless you.
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