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- 0:00Welcome back to the Deep Dive. This is where we take the
- 0:03material you sent us, articles, notes, research, and really dig
- 0:06into it together. This session is built just for
- 0:09you, using those specific sources you shared.
- 0:11And today we're looking at something pretty central in the
- 0:14Christian life, according to these sources, anyway.
- 0:16It's about biblical change, what's often called, you know,
- 0:19sanctification. Right.
- 0:21And the materials you sent lean heavily on passages like
- 0:24Ephesians chapter 2, Hebrews chapter 10.
- 0:27They give us a really solid framework to work with, so our
- 0:30goal here is to unpack what these sources teach about why
- 0:34change is needed, and then maybe the bigger piece, how that
- 0:36change actually happens according to the scriptures they
- 0:39highlight. Exactly, and the sources make
- 0:42this point right up front. You can't really get a handle on
- 0:45how change happens until you understand why it's necessary.
- 0:48And that, according to this material, means starting with a
- 0:51really honest look at where we stand apart from Christ.
- 0:54OK, let's get into that then. The sources spent a good bit of
- 0:58time describing our condition before conversion.
- 1:01It might make some people uncomfortable, but they argue
- 1:03it's crucial for understanding salvation and, well,
- 1:07sanctification itself. So what does that pre conversion
- 1:10state look like based on what you've pulled from the sources?
- 1:13Well, they pointed straight to Ephesians 2 versus one to three.
- 1:17It's quite a description of fallen humanity, and they bring
- 1:20in this theological idea often called total depravity.
- 1:24Now, they're quick to clarify what that doesn't mean.
- 1:27It's not saying everyone is as bad as they could possibly be
- 1:30all the time. OK, so it's not like maximum
- 1:32evil constantly. Right.
- 1:33They acknowledge God's common grace.
- 1:35You know how he restrains sin in the world, allows people apart
- 1:39from Christ to do things that seem good or kind or helpful by
- 1:42human standards? Acts of charity, loving family,
- 1:45scientific discoveries, art, that stuff happens.
- 1:48So it's not denying outward goodness or civility.
- 1:50No, not at all. What total depravity means,
- 1:53according to these sources, is that sin has affected and
- 1:57corrupted every part of us. Our minds, our wills, our
- 2:00emotions, even our physical bodies, our relationships,
- 2:03motivations, everything is tainted.
- 2:06They use this really striking illustration.
- 2:08If sin were blue, you'd be blue all over.
- 2:11Ah, so it's about the scope, not necessarily the intensity.
- 2:14At every moment comprehensive. Exactly.
- 2:16Every faculty is affected. There's no unfallen part left
- 2:19that can sort of pull the rest out of the mire, so to speak.
- 2:22OK, so looking right at Ephesians 2.1 to 3 as the source
- 2:25is laid out, what are the main ways they describe this state?
- 2:28I think they highlighted 3 things.
- 2:30Yes. Three key aspects define this
- 2:32state. First, people apart from Christ
- 2:34are described as spiritually dead.
- 2:36Verse one says you are dead in the trespasses and sins and the
- 2:40sources clarified this isn't physical death.
- 2:42You're walking, talking, thinking it's death towards God,
- 2:46separation from the source of spiritual life.
- 2:48Alive physically, but dead spiritually, cut off from God.
- 2:51Precisely alive to the world, but dead to the most vital
- 2:55reality, You exist within, well, the sphere of spiritual death.
- 2:59And didn't the sources use a pretty graphic illustration for
- 3:03this spiritual death? They did.
- 3:05It's stark, but it makes the point.
- 3:07Like a decomposing corpse at the bottom of the ocean.
- 3:09Wow. OK, think about it.
- 3:11Utterly lifeless. Can't move itself, can't save
- 3:13itself, can't even reach out, can't respond to anything from
- 3:16the outside. Just inert, subject to its
- 3:19environment. It's used to show our complete
- 3:21inability in spiritual things. We can't change our state, can't
- 3:24save ourselves, can't even properly grasp or respond to
- 3:27God's truth on our own. Cut off.
- 3:30That really drives home the helplessness, doesn't it?
- 3:31Total inability. What's the second aspect they
- 3:34pull from Ephesians 2? Second, they point to being
- 3:36disobedient. Verse 2 talks about how people
- 3:39once walked following the course of this world, following the
- 3:42Prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work
- 3:45in the sons of disobedience. This points to the whole
- 3:48directions and sort of the energy of their lives.
- 3:51The sources say people in the state naturally just conform to
- 3:55the world's fallen system, its values, its priorities, how it
- 3:59thinks. Just going with the flow of the
- 4:01world. Right.
- 4:01But it's deeper than that. They're following the leadership
- 4:04of Satan, the Prince of the power of the air.
- 4:06The sources say that in this state, even when it feels like
- 4:09free choice, our desires and actions are ultimately energized
- 4:12by the spirit of disobedience. Meaning before conversion, the
- 4:16only thing we ever truly want to do in relation to God's ultimate
- 4:19will is disobey. Our will is bound.
- 4:22So it's an act of alignment with forces opposed to God, driven
- 4:26from within by the spirit of disobedience, not just passive
- 4:28drifting. That's how the sources frame it.
- 4:31And the third aspect, it's being doomed.
- 4:33Verse 3 wraps it up and we're by nature children of wrath like
- 4:37the rest of mankind. This isn't God being randomly
- 4:39angry if flows from the first two points.
- 4:42Being spiritually dead separates us from life and holiness.
- 4:45Walking in disobedience sets US against God's righteous
- 4:49character and law. It's a natural consequence.
- 4:51Yes, the sources explained that our self seeking, self indulgent
- 4:54flesh, basically our sinful nature working itself out, and
- 4:57everything we think and do, public or private, just
- 5:00inherently condemns us before a holy God.
- 5:02By our very nature, every part of us deserves God's righteous
- 5:05judgement, His wrath against sin.
- 5:07So the picture is bleak. Spiritually dead, actively
- 5:10disobedient, and justly under God's wrath, completely unable
- 5:14and condemned. That's the reality presented,
- 5:16and the critical take away the sources draw is this given that
- 5:19state, apart from Christ's powerful saving work, real,
- 5:22lasting biblical change is just impossible.
- 5:25OK, let's push on that a bit. Impossible.
- 5:27What do they mean by lasting biblical change being
- 5:29impossible? How is that different from, say,
- 5:32self improvement? People change habits all the
- 5:35time. Right.
- 5:36And they distinguish that people who aren't believers can
- 5:39definitely change behaviors. They can stop smoking, get fit,
- 5:42become nicer, maybe more discipline, achieve worldly
- 5:45success. That happens.
- 5:47But the sources use this illustration.
- 5:49It's like squeezing a balloon. Squeezing a balloon.
- 5:52Yeah, you press down on one spot, stop one behavior, maybe
- 5:55lying. But the underlying issue, the
- 5:58sin nature, the heart bent away from God, it's still there.
- 6:01The pressure just pops out somewhere else.
- 6:03Maybe you stop lying but become incredibly prideful about your
- 6:06honesty. Or maybe find a different way to
- 6:08deceive. The root isn't addressed.
- 6:10So outward adjustment, but the inner core remains the same.
- 6:13Exactly. That kind of surface change,
- 6:16even if it looks positive, doesn't really get to the heart
- 6:18in a way that honors God or brings real freedom from sins,
- 6:22guilt, and power. It doesn't bring the peace and
- 6:24joy God intends. The sources are clear.
- 6:28That kind of deep change affecting inner desires and
- 6:30outer actions in line with God's will.
- 6:32It's just not possible until you're brought to life in
- 6:35Christ. So looking inside ourselves for
- 6:37the solution, trying harder, finding some inner strength,
- 6:40that's not the answer according to these sources.
- 6:42No, given the diagnosis, spiritual death, slavery to sin,
- 6:46the capacity for true biblical change can't originate from
- 6:49within. It has to come from outside,
- 6:51from God's powerful life giving work.
- 6:53And they add this sobering detail before God intervenes.
- 6:57A person doesn't really have the choice whether to sin against
- 6:59God's ultimate will. Their only choice is which sin
- 7:02to commit. Sin reigns.
- 7:04That really underlines the dead end sin idea bondage.
- 7:07It does, and they add a couple of other points about this state
- 7:10outside Christ. They mentioned vulnerability to
- 7:13actual demon possession being fully in Satan's domain in a way
- 7:18a spirit and dwelt believer isn't, and this really stark
- 7:20comparison for someone apart from Christ.
- 7:23This life, with all its good and bad, its ups and downs, is the
- 7:27closest thing to heaven they will ever get.
- 7:29That was quite a statement. Dead, disobedient, doomed,
- 7:33unable to change from within, vulnerable and no hope beyond
- 7:37this life. It certainly sets the stage for
- 7:39needing outside help. It makes those two words in
- 7:42Ephesians 2.4 incredibly dramatic.
- 7:44Yes, let's turn there. The sources really highlight
- 7:46this pivot point, but God. Ah, but God, huge words.
- 7:51The source is really stressed. This is a radical shift.
- 7:54Verses one to three describe our state.
- 7:55Verse 4 introduces God's action. But God, Paul writes, being rich
- 7:59in mercy because of the great love with which he loved us,
- 8:01even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive
- 8:04together with Christ. That's verses 4:00 and 5:00.
- 8:06Made us alive. The direct opposite of being
- 8:08dead. Exactly.
- 8:10The sources describe this but God moment as God stepping into
- 8:13that situation of spiritual death and raising the person up
- 8:17like Christ was raised. It's a complete change of state,
- 8:20moving from being dead, stuck like that corpse, into a totally
- 8:23new sphere of spiritual life in Christ.
- 8:26And this initial fundamental change of conversion is what the
- 8:29source is called positional sanctification.
- 8:31They state it clearly. After conversion, you have been
- 8:34sanctified positionally. Positional sanctification and
- 8:38verse 6 builds right on that, saying God raised us up with him
- 8:41and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
- 8:44Yes, and the sources emphasize that this points directly to the
- 8:47believers. New position, a new status, a
- 8:49new sphere of identity and security.
- 8:51Fundamentally different from being dead in sins.
- 8:53OK, so the sources are drawing a distinction between this initial
- 8:56change, positional sanctification, and an ongoing
- 8:59process. Let's explore these two,
- 9:02starting with positional sanctification.
- 9:05What does that mean more precisely based on material?
- 9:08Well, the basic meaning of sanctify is to be set apart for
- 9:11God's own use. So positional sanctification, as
- 9:14the sources describe it, is about the believer being
- 9:18definitively, decisively set apart for God at a specific
- 9:21moment. A specific moment, so not
- 9:24something that develops over time.
- 9:25Absolutely not. They're really emphatic here.
- 9:27It's a definitive, decisive, completed moment.
- 9:30It happens at conversion. They explicitly say it is not a
- 9:33process, it's an instantaneous event.
- 9:35Like flipping a switch. That captures the immediacy.
- 9:38God makes someone a completely new creature in Christ
- 9:41instantly, permanently. There's a break from the power
- 9:45and the penalty of sin. Now they're careful.
- 9:47The presence of sin remains in this life.
- 9:49But sins, ultimate ruling power and its eternal penalty broken
- 9:52gone at conversion. So the struggle isn't over, but
- 9:56sins reign is. It's condemnation is lifted.
- 9:59That's the crucial difference. You shift from being dead in
- 10:02your sin, ruled by it, enslaved like the court, to being dead to
- 10:05your sin freed from its compulsory dominion, a new
- 10:09creation no longer fundamentally bent only on disobedience
- 10:12towards God. A massive shift in identity and
- 10:15ability. OK, who gets the credit for
- 10:17this? Who does the work in this
- 10:19initial instantaneous setting apart?
- 10:21Is it us? Is a God.
- 10:23The sources are absolutely clear.
- 10:24God alone. It's God's unilateral work.
- 10:27God is entirely active, the believer passive in achieving
- 10:31the status. Unilateral, one sided.
- 10:33God does it. We receive it.
- 10:34Precisely. It's entirely His action and
- 10:37they back this up biblically. Hebrews 10.10.
- 10:39We have been sanctified through the offering of the body of
- 10:42Jesus Christ once for all. Notice the past tense there.
- 10:45Ephesians 2.5 God made us alive John 3 Jesus talks about being
- 10:49born again. God initiates at birth. 2nd
- 10:51Corinthians 5.1 Scene God has made us a new creation.
- 10:54Colossians 2.13 God has made us alive, having forgiven us all.
- 10:57The action is God's. So if God is active, what's our
- 11:00role? What posture do we have in this
- 11:02initial setting apart? Our role is passive.
- 11:05You don't cooperate in becoming positionally sanctified.
- 11:08You don't help God make you alive or create you anew, or
- 11:11seat you in the heavenlies. It happens to you.
- 11:13Think about physical birth again.
- 11:15The baby doesn't assist in its own birth.
- 11:17It's acted upon similarly. Spiritual rebirth is God's work
- 11:21upon us. That's a really important
- 11:23distinction, separating our work from God's finished work.
- 11:27The sources also mentioned some grammatical points supporting
- 11:30this, something about verb tenses.
- 11:32Yeah, this is interesting. They point to the grammar to
- 11:34reinforce the idea of a completed act, specifically the
- 11:38Greek perfect tense, like in Hebrews 10.10.
- 11:41We have been sanctified. The perfect tense in Greek
- 11:44describes an action completed in the past, once for all through
- 11:48Christ's offering, but with an ongoing present result or
- 11:52effect. So it happened then, but his
- 11:54effects are still active now. Exactly.
- 11:56The sources use illustrations like saying someone is just
- 11:59married, the wedding was a past event completed, but being
- 12:02married is the ongoing state, the present result.
- 12:05You don't get remarried every day.
- 12:06It happened once, the effect continues.
- 12:08OK, that makes sense. Another one they use is Jesus
- 12:11Christ from the Cross. It is finished to the last eye.
- 12:15Also perfect tense. It means the atonement work was
- 12:17totally completely accomplished once for all time.
- 12:20Nobody thinks he meant I'm nearly there or it's in process.
- 12:24No, it is finished done. And that completed work has
- 12:27permanent, ongoing effects for believers.
- 12:30So back in Hebrews 10.10 we have been sanctified means God did
- 12:34the work of setting us apart completely through Christ, and
- 12:38that action results in our current ongoing status or
- 12:41position of being set apart wholly before Him.
- 12:43Precisely, it signals a finished work by God at salvation,
- 12:47resulting in a permanent, secure state.
- 12:49They also know how often passive verbs are used, have been
- 12:52sanctified, made us alive, have been saved, raised up, seated.
- 12:56The believer is receiving the action.
- 12:57God is doing it to them. The grammar really supports
- 13:00God's unilateral action here. That grammatical layer does add
- 13:03weight. Okay, so understanding this
- 13:05secure completed positioning cries this positional
- 13:07sanctification. What are the practical results?
- 13:09What is getting this really matter for us day-to-day?
- 13:11Oh, grasping this is foundational.
- 13:13It brings huge security and confidence for living the
- 13:16Christian life and for the whole process of change that follows.
- 13:20The sources list several key results or implications.
- 13:23All right, let's walk through those implications from the
- 13:25sources. First, it helps us distinguish
- 13:27between union and communion. When a believer sins, yes, you
- 13:31break communion, that close fellowship with Christ.
- 13:34Sin grieves the Spirit, hinders the relationship.
- 13:38But, and this is crucial, the sources stress you do not break
- 13:41your fundamental union with Christ.
- 13:43Your position as God's child, united to Him, is secure,
- 13:47permanent. This is where that adoption
- 13:48analogy comes in. Exactly.
- 13:50An adopted child is legally, permanently family.
- 13:53If they disobey, act out, say hurtful things, their position
- 13:57as a child doesn't change. They might damage the
- 13:59relationship, break fellowship for a time, but there's still
- 14:02family. Similarly, in Christ, you're
- 14:04adopted a full heir. Sin affects your present
- 14:08fellowship with God, but not your fundamental status as His
- 14:11child. That's incredibly freeing.
- 14:12My identity isn't fluctuating based on my daily performance.
- 14:16No, it's based on Christ's work and God's promise, which leads
- 14:20to the next point. Because of God's unilateral
- 14:22work, you are forgiven and blessed.
- 14:25Ephesians one talks about being blessed with every spiritual
- 14:27blessing, having redemption, forgiveness, all based on God's
- 14:31grace because of your position in Christ, not.
- 14:33Earned acceptance isn't conditional.
- 14:35And you are secure in Christ, adopted as a full heir with
- 14:40Christ. Your core identity, if you're a
- 14:42believer, is child of God. The sources contrast this with
- 14:46how the world defines us, often by our struggles are past.
- 14:49I'm an addict. I'm defined by trauma.
- 14:51The biblical view from positional sanctification is I
- 14:54am a child of God who struggles with addiction or I am a new
- 14:57creation working through past hurts.
- 14:59Identity first that. Shifts everything, how you view
- 15:01yourself, your struggles. It really does.
- 15:03And because God made you alive, you're now alive to spiritual
- 15:06things. Remember Ephesians 2.4 to 5
- 15:09before dead to God. Now you have the capacity, even
- 15:12the desire to care about God's Word, prayer, fellowship, His
- 15:15will, sound teaching, living for Him.
- 15:17First, John 5 talks about this new life.
- 15:19These things were foreign before.
- 15:21Now they're part of your new nature.
- 15:22Desires you didn't have before are now present.
- 15:25Yes, planted by the Spirit and from this new life and position
- 15:29you become a victor over the world, the fallen world system,
- 15:32its values, its pressures. It no longer has the ultimate
- 15:35claim on you. The sources mentioned first John
- 15:385.4. Everyone born of God overcomes
- 15:40the world and Psalm 112. He will not fear bad news.
- 15:44His heart is firm, trusting in the Lord.
- 15:46You belong to a different Kingdom now.
- 15:48What about the direct fight with sin and temptation?
- 15:51Because sins reign is broken, you now have the ability to
- 15:54overcome temptation. The old nature isn't the
- 15:57absolute boss anymore. They point to 1st Corinthians
- 15:5910.13 God provides a way of escape and Romans 6 freed from
- 16:04sins dominion. This means, unlike before
- 16:07conversion, you genuinely can choose now.
- 16:09You can yield, or you can resist, and reliance on God sins
- 16:13there, but it's power to force you against your renewed will is
- 16:16gone. A complete reversal from the
- 16:18bondage we talked about. It is you're also protected from
- 16:20Satan. He contempt, harass, accused
- 16:22absolutely, but the sources say he cannot possess A believer and
- 16:25dwelt by the Spirit. First John 5.18 first John 4.4.
- 16:29His ultimate control is broken. You belong to God.
- 16:32Is there outward evidence of this new inner reality?
- 16:35Yes, sources say you'll bear fruit if you're genuinely in
- 16:38Christ with this new life and position, the fruit of the
- 16:41Spirit described in Galatians 5, the good works God prepared from
- 16:45Ephesians 2, They will show up over time, Maybe not perfectly,
- 16:49maybe not instantly. There will be struggles, but
- 16:51genuine life produces genuine fruit.
- 16:54Matthew 7 confirms that. Looking ahead.
- 16:56You have definite hope. The best is yet to come.
- 16:59You've already obtained an inheritance in Christ.
- 17:02Ephesians 1.11 The sources use that illustration of being named
- 17:06in a will. It's legally secured for you,
- 17:08even if you don't have it fully in hand yet.
- 17:10It's yours. And they bring back that stark
- 17:12comparison, but flipped. For a believer, this life, with
- 17:16all its trials and struggles with sin, is the closest thing
- 17:19to hell you will ever experience.
- 17:21Wow, that comparison lands very differently for the believer.
- 17:23It really frames our hope, anchors it in the future.
- 17:26Christ secured. And lastly, the sources note
- 17:29because of all this, you're secure position, new nature,
- 17:32freedom. You cannot go on sinning
- 17:35carelessly. First, John 3.9 speaks to this.
- 17:38Your security isn't a free pass actually, because you are God's
- 17:41child set apart for him, given a new heart that desires Him.
- 17:45God expects you to fight sin, to live dependently on Him.
- 17:49Security fuels the fight, it doesn't negate it.
- 17:52OK, so understanding positional sanctification gives us a whole
- 17:55new identity. Security, freedom from
- 17:57condemnation, freedom from sins, ultimate power, freedom from
- 18:00Satan's ownership, and solid hope.
- 18:02It's the bedrock. The absolute secure platform for
- 18:05everything else in the Christian life.
- 18:07All change flows from this reality.
- 18:08All. Right, so with that foundational
- 18:10piece, positional sanctification as God's completed one sided
- 18:13work, let's shift to the second aspect.
- 18:14The sources discuss progressive sanctification.
- 18:18If positional is the one time event, what's progressive?
- 18:20Progressive sanctification is defined in the sources as the
- 18:24the ongoing process of actually becoming more like Christ in our
- 18:28daily lives. It's the practical outworking
- 18:30growing up into Him, living more consistently with our new nature
- 18:33and position. Ongoing process that sounds very
- 18:35different from the instantaneous positional part.
- 18:37Fundamentally different, yes, in timing and nature, the source is
- 18:40stressed. This is ongoing throughout our
- 18:42entire earthly life. It's continuous, repeated
- 18:46action, not finished at conversion.
- 18:49This process continues, they say, until we see Jesus face to
- 18:52face, until glorification, when sin's presence is finally
- 18:55removed. And the Bible's language often
- 18:57reflects this. It uses the present tense.
- 18:59Hebrews 10.14, for example, says Jesus sacrifice perfected those
- 19:04who are being sanctified. Present tense, So it's happening
- 19:06now and. Keeps happening till glory.
- 19:08Exactly and. It has a purpose.
- 19:09Right now, the sources say, progressive sanctification
- 19:12equips us to increasingly overcome, even joyfully, the
- 19:15pressures and trials of life. It's the growth and actual
- 19:18holiness that lets us live lives honoring God in this world.
- 19:22This is the. Real time growth and change we
- 19:24experience after conversion. Now positional was God's
- 19:27unilateral work Is progressive sanctification the same No.
- 19:32And that's. Another key difference, the
- 19:33sources are clear. God is definitely active,
- 19:36powerfully active, but progressive sanctification
- 19:39involves the believers cooperation with God.
- 19:41It's not unilateral. We have an active role here.
- 19:43OK, cooperation. Let's break that down.
- 19:46What's God's part in this ongoing process?
- 19:48How does he work? According to the sources, God is
- 19:51deeply. Involved, the sources highlight
- 19:53several ways He enables and drives this growth.
- 19:56First, they remind us God is able to do far more abundantly
- 19:59than all we ask or think through His power working in US.
- 20:02Ephesians 3.20 The sources suggest we often aim too low for
- 20:06growth. God's power in us, the
- 20:08resurrection power that made us alive, can achieve far more
- 20:10change than we often imagine. We tend to underestimate.
- 20:13What God can do in us? It seems so. 2nd, we need
- 20:17confidence that God is at work continuously, even when we don't
- 20:20see it or feel stuck. Philippians 1.6 promises he who
- 20:25started the work will complete it.
- 20:26The sources use illustrations like a rock and a river, slowly
- 20:29smoothed over time. Not overnight, but steady,
- 20:33persistent work. Or, you know, you don't plant
- 20:35seeds and harvest the same day. Growth takes time.
- 20:38God's nurture. That's comforting, especially.
- 20:40During dry spells are when we feel we're failing.
- 20:42It is trusting. His faithfulness.
- 20:44The sources also state God's purpose.
- 20:46He will conform us to the image of Christ.
- 20:48Romans 8.29. That's His goal, and He's
- 20:51working towards it. He also will transform minds,
- 20:54renewing them as we engage with His word.
- 20:55Hear good preaching, worship, pray.
- 20:57Romans 12.2 As we soak in truth and talk to him, our thinking
- 21:01patterns change. So using God's.
- 21:03Appointed means is part of how he works on our minds.
- 21:05Yes, and. Finally, the sources note he
- 21:08will bring peace and contentment as we actively lean on him,
- 21:10especially in prayer, bringing anxieties to him.
- 21:13Philippians 4.6 to 7. His peeth guards us as we trust
- 21:17him. OK, so God.
- 21:18Is initiating, enabling, promising completion,
- 21:21transforming minds, giving peace?
- 21:23He's actively involved. What about our part?
- 21:25What does our active cooperation look like?
- 21:27Right. This is where.
- 21:28Our response comes in not to earn anything, but because of
- 21:31what He's already done. The sources list several things.
- 21:34First, we need to consciously present ourselves to God as
- 21:37slaves to our master. Romans 6.13.
- 21:40It's an ongoing surrender. Our lives, time, abilities, they
- 21:44belong to Him because He bought us.
- 21:46Our purpose is his glory. The sources contrast this with
- 21:49thinking God is just there to serve us like a cosmic Butler.
- 21:52No, we belong to him. That's a fundamental.
- 21:54Shift from self centeredness. It has to be. 2nd we actively
- 21:57purge sin by putting on the Lord Jesus Christ.
- 21:59Romans 13.14. It's more than just saying stop
- 22:02sinning. The effective way the sources
- 22:04suggest is actively pursuing Christ, running after him,
- 22:07seeking to know him, love him, obey him.
- 22:09As you do, that desires change. Sin loses its appeal.
- 22:13You start to hate what henders fellowship with him.
- 22:15So the focus as. Positive pursuing Christ
- 22:18displaces sin exactly filling up.
- 22:20With the good pushes out the bad third, we have to repeatedly
- 22:23decide who our Lord will be, God or ourselves.
- 22:26Jesus is Lord, yes, but the practical question daily is will
- 22:30I submit my will now? Will I bow my knee today?
- 22:33It means ongoing surrender, yielding to his authority,
- 22:37denying self, taking up the cross.
- 22:39Matthew 16.24 sounds like a constant.
- 22:42Moment by moment choice? Often, yes. 4th We must continue
- 22:47in the faith, persevering. It's a marathon.
- 22:49Philippians 3 talks about pressing on, straining forward.
- 22:52This includes learning to pray for grace in the trial, not just
- 22:55from it. Asking for strength to endure
- 22:57through difficulty in a way that grows us.
- 22:59Not just asking for the problem to disappear, growing through
- 23:02it. Not just getting out of it.
- 23:03Yes, the. Sources also mentioned things
- 23:05like actively practicing our righteousness, choosing
- 23:08obedience and putting our hope in God, relying on His promises,
- 23:11not our feelings or circumstances.
- 23:13And finally, echoing what we heard before, God expects us to
- 23:16actively fight our sin, but to do it in constant dependence on
- 23:20Him, not in our own strength. OK, so progressive.
- 23:22Sanctification is this dynamic interplay, God actively working
- 23:27in US, enabling, changing us, and us actively responding,
- 23:32independence, surrendering, pursuing, choosing, persevering.
- 23:35That's the cooperative. Picture the sources paint so we
- 23:38have these two. Distinct things.
- 23:40Positional, instant, God's work alone and progressive, ongoing,
- 23:44cooperative. How do they relate?
- 23:46Is positional just step one, the sources say.
- 23:49Positional is much more than step one.
- 23:50It's the absolute foundation and the fuel for progressive
- 23:54sanctification. Foundation and fuel.
- 23:56How so? Well, think about it.
- 23:57You. Can engage in the fight for
- 23:58holiness, the process of growth, because you are already securely
- 24:02God's child. Set apart, positioned in Christ.
- 24:05Your ability and even your motivation to fight sin and grow
- 24:09come from that secure place, not to get to that place or stay
- 24:12there because you were set apart.
- 24:14You can and should live like it. That security gives you the
- 24:17confidence, the hope you need for the lifelong struggle.
- 24:20You're not trying to earn his love, you're responding to it.
- 24:23So failure. In the progressive part doesn't
- 24:25jeopardize the positional part, not at all, according.
- 24:28To these sources, when you sin, you don't suddenly lose your
- 24:31position as God's child. Your union is secure and that
- 24:35very security is what allows you, when you do sin, to run
- 24:39back to God like a child to a loving parent, not running away
- 24:43in fear or shame. You know the relationship is
- 24:45fundamentally secure, even if fellowship is broken
- 24:48temporarily. That security.
- 24:50Prevents despair, enables repentance and restoration.
- 24:53Exactly. The work God calls us to in
- 24:56progressive sanctification, we do it as his beloved secure
- 24:59children, not in order to become his children or stay his
- 25:02children. Position enables progress.
- 25:04That connection is. Critical position first,
- 25:07providing the security and motivation for progress.
- 25:10Did the sources use any final illustrations to sort of wrap
- 25:12this all up? They did a pretty.
- 25:14Helpful one involving a mud puddle.
- 25:15It tries to capture the whole journey.
- 25:17OK, the mud puddle. Illustration.
- 25:19Let's hear it all right? Imagine you're stuck deep in a
- 25:22nasty dark mud puddle. Can't get out on your own,
- 25:25Trapped. Coming out of the mud puddle.
- 25:27That salvation, including positional sanctification.
- 25:30God reaches in, pulls you out of that muck, out of the sphere of
- 25:33sin and death. You didn't climb out.
- 25:35He rescued you. OK, so you're out.
- 25:38Rescued on solid ground, yeah, but.
- 25:41Still covered. In mud, right?
- 25:42Exactly. Positionally.
- 25:43Out, but practically messy. Now you look up, see a light in
- 25:47the distance, maybe a warm, clean cabin.
- 25:49Walking towards the light. That's progressive
- 25:51sanctification, pursuing the Lord, moving towards holiness.
- 25:54And as you walk you start pulling off chunks of mud,
- 25:57actively dealing with sin, putting off the old, putting on
- 25:59the new. So progressive.
- 26:00Sanctification is the journey towards the light, cleaning up
- 26:03as you go. Yes, but here's.
- 26:05The interesting part, the key insight from the illustration.
- 26:08As you get closer to that bright light, what happens?
- 26:11You actually see more mud on yourself.
- 26:14Because the light's brighter, it reveals dirt you couldn't see
- 26:17before exactly the. Closer you get to God's perfect
- 26:20holiness, the more his light exposes the remaining sin, the
- 26:24subtle stuff, the attitudes, the things hidden in the shadows
- 26:27backed by the puddle. So.
- 26:29Becoming more a way of your sin isn't necessarily a sign you're
- 26:32getting worse, but maybe that you're getting closer to the
- 26:34light. That's the idea.
- 26:36The sources connect us to Paul calling himself the chief of
- 26:39sinners later in life, maybe not because he was sinning more, but
- 26:43because near the end, closer to the light of Christ's glory, he
- 26:47saw his own remaining sinfulness much more clearly.
- 26:50So this process, walking, pulling off mud, seeing more mud
- 26:53to deal with, continues the whole walk until you reach.
- 26:56The cabin right getting. To the cabin and taking a
- 26:58shower. That's glorification.
- 27:00Finally reaching God's presence, completely cleansed.
- 27:03No more mud, No more struggle with sin's presence.
- 27:06That's a great picture. Rescue the ongoing walk and
- 27:09clean up, seeing more dirt as you get closer to the light and
- 27:12the final cleansing. It normalizes the struggle,
- 27:15doesn't it? It's part of the journey for
- 27:16everyone out of the puddle. It really does.
- 27:19The struggle is real, but it's thought from security and aimed
- 27:22at guaranteed completion. So just to recap the core
- 27:25distinction and connection. Positional sanctification is
- 27:29God's finished work at conversion sets you apart.
- 27:32Secure identity, progressive sanctification is the lifelong
- 27:36cooperative process of becoming more like Christ, and that
- 27:40secure position is the absolute foundation and the fuel for the
- 27:43ongoing process. You grow because you are His.
- 27:47Your hope isn't in. Your daily progress report, but
- 27:49in Christ's finish work securing your position.
- 27:52And yet that very security empowers and calls you to pursue
- 27:56progress. That's the balance.
- 27:57You're loved, secure, defined by Christ, not your sin if you're
- 28:01His. That's the positional reality.
- 28:03And because of that, amazing. Position.
- 28:05You can fight sin, you can pursue righteousness, and you're
- 28:08expected to. Not desperately trying to earn
- 28:10favor, but responding in love and gratitude, depending on his
- 28:13strength and understanding. This biblical view of change,
- 28:16rooted in God's work both finished and ongoing, gives real
- 28:19confidence, real guidance for living the Christian life.
- 28:22It relies on his faithfulness to finish what he started.
- 28:25So maybe a final? Thought to take away from these
- 28:27sources because your position is secure, because the best is yet
- 28:31to come. You have this amazing freedom.
- 28:33Freedom to pursue holiness, not out of fear or obligation to
- 28:37earn something, but out of sheer gratitude and love for the One
- 28:41who pulled you from the mud. And when you look down and see
- 28:44the mud and feel discouraged, remember God is at work
- 28:48smoothing the edges even when you don't see it.
- 28:51And maybe seeing more mud just means you're walking closer to
- 28:54the light. That's actually encouraging in a
- 28:57way. And don't forget.
- 28:58The emphasis on prayer, praying for grace in the trial, not just
- 29:02deliverance from it. Praying for a deeper grasp of
- 29:05your secure position. Praying knowing God can do far
- 29:09more in you than you can ask or imagine.
- 29:11Trusting Him to work. It really does center.
- 29:13The whole process on God's initiative and faithfulness.
- 29:16Well, thank you for sharing these sources and letting us
- 29:18dive deep into this with you. It's such a vital area.
- 29:20Keep digging into these truths absolutely until.
- 29:22Our next deep dive. We'll see you then.