Latest / Thirsty For More - Movie Review / EP189 - Jason Goes To Hell - The Final Friday (Thirsty For Gore)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Shoot them, shoot them, shut them. Hello everybody, and welcome
- 0:03Speaker 1: to Thirsty for Gore. I am their host GOLICX and
- 0:10Speaker 1: I am Millingco.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Nice to meet you. And today we're talking about ninety
- 0:16Speaker 2: ninety threes. Jason goes to.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Hell the Final what is it, the Final Final Friday?
- 0:25Speaker 1: I mean it is the Final Friday, dude. It's so
- 0:28Speaker 1: the Final Friday. It's time right, very.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Well, they had they took a break of a few
- 0:40Speaker 2: years to think about how they were going to continue, Jason, dude,
- 0:43Speaker 2: and this is how they did the host pantheon and best,
- 0:49Speaker 2: the very best Jason. Okay, yeah, well, how do you
- 0:58Speaker 2: want to do it, dude? Because well that go through it.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Let's go through it because we get classic. Oh I'm
- 1:03Speaker 1: a sexy lady going down to Crystal Lake.
- 1:06Speaker 2: But right away, something seems weird about this sexy lady scenario.
- 1:11Speaker 1: It's all, it's all. It combines so much of the best,
- 1:15Speaker 1: all of them, dude, I completely completely of all of
- 1:20Speaker 1: the first first one, or not the first one, all
- 1:23Speaker 1: of the fifth.
- 1:24Speaker 2: One, and like the very most specifically nineties porno actress
- 1:30Speaker 2: seeming like ever.
- 1:32Speaker 1: High thongs of course, high thongs. Yeah, like muscular everything.
- 1:38Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's it's like leary for men to be like, yeah,
- 1:44Speaker 1: this is the type of person, you know what I mean? Yeah,
- 1:47Speaker 1: cast very deliberately, deliberately yeah, exactly.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:51Speaker 1: And she's like taking off her clothes. She looks very good.
- 1:54Speaker 1: She looks very good, very very good. She's like prepping
- 1:58Speaker 1: the cabin, need to take a shower. She hears something,
- 2:02Speaker 1: she hears some not not weird, although that could be
- 2:10Speaker 1: cool too. But man, this one in comparison to the.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Last one, where do we leave Jason in the last one,
- 2:16Speaker 2: because that's what I melted in. Oh yeah, he was
- 2:19Speaker 2: melted in the sewer. And he's a baby.
- 2:21Speaker 1: He's a baby. He's a baby. And then they just
- 2:24Speaker 1: fully read condent.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Well no, not necessarily, not necessarily. Man, I can't wait.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about necronomic ond. Jason.
- 2:37Speaker 1: It's not on, Jason, It's it's Freddy Part six.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Jason, this is the most Freddy part six one.
- 2:44Speaker 1: It is Freddy parts the streaming jizz people.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Dude, first time handheld, Jason.
- 2:52Speaker 1: It's the most freddy, Jason, this is the most freddy.
- 2:55Speaker 1: It is the most The lights go out and we
- 2:58Speaker 1: hear some like not walking at the door and immediately
- 3:02Speaker 1: immediately Jason, the chunkiest ass, most bloated over the mask. Yeah,
- 3:10Speaker 1: like the strand Long also also vindicated Malenco. Nobody was
- 3:20Speaker 1: more right than Malaco invading dead bodies of vagrants in
- 3:25Speaker 1: the street.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Right, It's quite possible that the toxic waste melted Jason's soul.
- 3:32Speaker 1: My soul is prepared.
- 3:34Speaker 2: How's yours? Jason?
- 3:35Speaker 1: The people who were checking the levels of COVID at
- 3:39Speaker 1: the time, Yeah, the pooh levels. Uh, there was a
- 3:43Speaker 1: lot of Jason in the pool. We want to talk
- 3:46Speaker 1: about this, dude. There's so much Pooh in this one.
- 3:49Speaker 1: The lights go out, she gets knocked out by Jason. Uh,
- 3:53Speaker 1: the chunkiest as we said, Jason. Uh, she's running out.
- 3:57Speaker 1: He's following with the golden locks, like my golden locks.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Like brain. Yeah, it's like brain hemorrhaged. It's like they combined.
- 4:09Speaker 2: You're right, they combine so many because he's very chunky
- 4:12Speaker 2: and thick, but he's also still bones. Jason. He's like
- 4:15Speaker 2: that kind of shake up the bones and just throw
- 4:18Speaker 2: them wherever. Bones totally, totally. He's King Willie Bones Jason.
- 4:22Speaker 1: And then she's like running through the forest getting fucking
- 4:26Speaker 1: terrified by this creepy, gross Jason.
- 4:29Speaker 2: And like suddenly something that has never happened before Jason
- 4:34Speaker 2: happens it. It was such a and it's so jarring, the
- 4:37Speaker 2: floodlights coming on, and I will never forget this, dude,
- 4:40Speaker 2: Like this is like it's such a pantheon moment for me.
- 4:43Speaker 2: This is the most pantheon Jason. I was watching this,
- 4:46Speaker 2: I was like, I know the seeds, yeah, and like
- 4:49Speaker 2: the floodlights, dude, Like, I don't know. It's after seeing
- 4:52Speaker 2: eight movies up until this point of not floodlights Jason,
- 4:57Speaker 2: to have like flood light Jason. It just feels like
- 5:00Speaker 2: we're making a movie. Guys.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, and they are. They're in the movie. The
- 5:05Speaker 1: guy's like, you got some great footage, dude. It's like
- 5:07Speaker 1: were they filming for the whole time? And then they
- 5:10Speaker 1: were like they were totally and they were like, oh man,
- 5:13Speaker 1: we've got to get Officer whatever her name is on
- 5:15Speaker 1: Campbell what if.
- 5:16Speaker 2: You always wanted to see? I mean, what are we
- 5:18Speaker 2: gonna do for the Jason one? Yeah, what are we
- 5:20Speaker 2: gonna do for the who'd we get?
- 5:22Speaker 1: One hundred percent? And they just like military military police,
- 5:27Speaker 1: how did it get out of the space r I P.
- 5:31Speaker 1: They all like, yeah, dude, Lance Reddick to all people,
- 5:35Speaker 1: you'd be like, I.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Thought he was gonna live. I thought he was gonna
- 5:38Speaker 2: live for a while. I thought we were gonna get
- 5:39Speaker 2: more roles.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I know, totally. And then they're just like police all
- 5:43Speaker 1: fucking shooting him, shoot him, shoot it.
- 5:47Speaker 2: Is shoot shooter shooters and dude, like this is the
- 5:50Speaker 2: like everyone's everyone's a Danny mul room in this. Jason's
- 5:54Speaker 2: a Danny mul Jason, like honestly zipper. Of course who
- 6:00Speaker 2: who's we'll talk about.
- 6:02Speaker 1: But I also really loved not to like despair.
- 6:06Speaker 2: Grunting Jason, grunting Jason.
- 6:11Speaker 1: Talked about. I don't know, I don't know how I
- 6:13Speaker 1: feel about grunting.
- 6:14Speaker 2: I don't like grunting, Jason. I don't like we have
- 6:17Speaker 2: eight movies of Laura, no grunting Laura. There's some grunting,
- 6:21Speaker 2: but like never never liked, never like never noting this
- 6:26Speaker 2: Jason never thump the swamp Jason.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty's not a big fan. But what I am
- 6:36Speaker 1: a big fan of is our our police boys shaking
- 6:40Speaker 1: the hand of the woman, being a nice job agent.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Whatever your name is Shoulders. I was pretty happy with that.
- 6:46Speaker 1: That was to be like, you did a really good
- 6:50Speaker 1: job pretending to be the sexy teen.
- 6:53Speaker 2: We respect you not only for as a sexy teen pretend,
- 6:58Speaker 2: but also as a.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Police And then we get introduced to I think one
- 7:05Speaker 1: of the best characters. Also. I think, yeah, I'm gonna
- 7:09Speaker 1: say the more more guy. No Duke, Oh, Duke Duke? Who? Who?
- 7:15Speaker 2: Wait? Wait? Do we get introduced to Duke right away?
- 7:18Speaker 1: Right away? He's like right, he's like spying on Jason
- 7:21Speaker 1: being like, I know they haven't killed him to explain
- 7:24Speaker 1: just to the audience that he that that he's a
- 7:26Speaker 1: magical guy.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Yeah, he's.
- 7:30Speaker 1: Such a magical black guy in the boat Jason. Best
- 7:34Speaker 1: kind of.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Way Jason wanted to defeat. They wanted to defeat the
- 7:40Speaker 2: allegations of of bad black writing, even though like it's
- 7:46Speaker 2: been like consistently throughout these movies they've had like black representation,
- 7:50Speaker 2: but it's always the clunkiest it's and in no movie
- 7:55Speaker 2: is it. I think like you're right by leaning into it.
- 7:59Speaker 2: There is a kind of way in which they're commenting
- 8:02Speaker 2: on it while also like really tropifying it, you know
- 8:05Speaker 2: what I mean?
- 8:06Speaker 1: This was pretty good. I think you think so good?
- 8:09Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sure, whatever, Like it's like it's not
- 8:11Speaker 2: like the rest of the movie makes any sense, dude,
- 8:15Speaker 2: it does make sense.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But then but then we get the Flaming Jason. Jason
- 8:21Speaker 1: goes to Hell the Final Friday, and I was like, Yo,
- 8:25Speaker 1: this is fucking awesome. Richard Gant is the Morgue, a
- 8:30Speaker 1: guy they what are they called again, mortician? Mortician?
- 8:34Speaker 2: Yeah? Is he a mortician or is he like a yeah,
- 8:37Speaker 2: he's a more guy. Yeah, he's he's a mortician. And dude,
- 8:42Speaker 2: this act corner, this this actor like Richard named some
- 8:48Speaker 2: of his roles though, like his iconic roles that we
- 8:51Speaker 2: know him from.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Weirdly, he was in The Big Lebowski.
- 8:57Speaker 2: He's the cop in The Big Lebowski, says or the creed.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Yeah, totally he is. Yeah, I mean he's like a
- 9:04Speaker 1: known character actor. He's great.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Due he had a bunch of stuff. I remember him.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I remember his like silhouette from this movie of like
- 9:11Speaker 2: the hair and the like face. Yeah he's he's like, yeah,
- 9:15Speaker 2: he's he's great. And the way he's like nonchalantly but like.
- 9:23Speaker 1: The build up, excuse me, the build up like showing
- 9:27Speaker 1: off all the characters' names while he's like prepping the
- 9:31Speaker 1: body the destroyed Chunky.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Corpse atounds, yeah, which is kine Hatter's weight, and he's
- 9:40Speaker 2: like putting chunks.
- 9:42Speaker 1: And he's like mad that he's like there's bullets, a
- 9:46Speaker 1: lot of bullets.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Over one hundred of them. Yeah, different calibers. I loved
- 9:51Speaker 2: I loved it. I thought I thought his perform something
- 9:54Speaker 2: that this movie does is okay, first of all, funny Jason.
- 9:59Speaker 1: It's painting Jason's head up to and like having the looking.
- 10:03Speaker 2: At the looking at the heftiness of the also like
- 10:07Speaker 2: laurified again elephant Titus Jason in this Yeah, it was
- 10:11Speaker 2: returned to form elephant Titus Jason, which like, yeah, the
- 10:16Speaker 2: last movie we were kind of like unsure. We eventually
- 10:19Speaker 2: got there, but like it is laurified that Jason had
- 10:25Speaker 2: that he didn't get water bloat that he had us.
- 10:28Speaker 2: He was always laurified Chunky. So this, yeah, that movie
- 10:34Speaker 2: kind of like did the weird thing with the kid
- 10:36Speaker 2: but the head when he's holding the head, the sunken
- 10:40Speaker 2: in mask. Of course of course what we've always wanted to. Yeah,
- 10:45Speaker 2: we so much so that I was.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Like, did I dream that no, there no, it's the
- 10:49Speaker 1: children who are wrong.
- 10:52Speaker 2: And it's just this is your favorite, Jason, this is
- 10:55Speaker 2: my favorite, is my favorite.
- 10:56Speaker 1: My favorite Jason. Richard Gant looking at the heart being
- 11:00Speaker 1: like there's something something black coming. It's not blood and
- 11:04Speaker 1: the like briscus fluid, but like the sort of yeah, dude,
- 11:09Speaker 1: the black come from it's from dude. This is when
- 11:15Speaker 1: this is years after Romulus took place exactly because it's
- 11:19Speaker 1: recent future dude. But then the heart starts beating again
- 11:24Speaker 1: and like he's dude, Richard Gant. The thing that sells
- 11:28Speaker 1: the performance, Jason, he said he was white and now
- 11:33Speaker 1: he's black. He used to be white.
- 11:40Speaker 2: He's now one black one to be known as black.
- 11:44Speaker 2: But yeah, Jason definitely in this movie wanted to be
- 11:48Speaker 2: known as black.
- 11:51Speaker 1: His one. Richard Gant's performance really fun. He doesn't even
- 11:55Speaker 1: know his name, dude, He's just the corner, the corner,
- 11:58Speaker 1: the the the act that he got the like you
- 12:02Speaker 1: fully get the hypnosis that the heart is like it's
- 12:06Speaker 1: like tempting him with the evil and they just they
- 12:11Speaker 1: never explained it why. He just wants he wants to
- 12:14Speaker 1: He just wants to be He wants to eat the heart.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He wants to eat the heart, and we get a
- 12:19Speaker 1: sense that it becomes some kind of like animalistic passion
- 12:25Speaker 1: takes over him that makes him want to eat the heart.
- 12:28Speaker 1: It becomes like a primal thing.
- 12:31Speaker 2: And I think that's cool in a way if we're
- 12:33Speaker 2: bringing in because you're right, this is like the demons,
- 12:37Speaker 2: the Freddy demons he like from Part Second.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Inside him.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of cool, dude. It's kind of cool
- 12:50Speaker 2: because it is kind of cool because.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Like like all of the Brew Season.
- 12:57Speaker 2: But dude, it's cool because it does glorify it in
- 13:02Speaker 2: necronomicon reality.
- 13:04Speaker 1: That were and shall be again.
- 13:10Speaker 2: The book We Want What Is Sure.
- 13:17Speaker 1: By God Dad by Don.
- 13:23Speaker 2: Yeah, like it makes it. It makes it necronomic on Jason,
- 13:27Speaker 2: and it makes it like it makes it Freddy in
- 13:29Speaker 2: that way too. So Ash versus Freddy versus Jason I
- 13:32Speaker 2: am on board with after. I'm down for the lore, dude,
- 13:38Speaker 2: like I would bring them all back. At this age,
- 13:41Speaker 2: I was watching, just watching this movie, dude, and I
- 13:43Speaker 2: was like, oh, man, Alex, it's gonna hate this and
- 13:47Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to defend this and I'm so glad.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Oh dude, are you kidding? Defend. I was like, I'm
- 13:54Speaker 1: probably gonna be surprised by my Jason points, but dude,
- 13:57Speaker 1: you're not gonna be surprised when I win by landslide.
- 14:01Speaker 1: This fucking Danny Maulroon who comes in, who looks like
- 14:03Speaker 1: fucking Rick moranis.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Oh, the fucking nerd dude, and and like there's so
- 14:08Speaker 2: many nerds.
- 14:08Speaker 1: There's so many nerds in this. He comes in with
- 14:10Speaker 1: a pizza and he's like the cop stops him like
- 14:13Speaker 1: a fucking dick, and he's like, you saw me earlier. No, no, no,
- 14:17Speaker 1: he goes he goes, I d please, and he's like
- 14:20Speaker 1: I just came out of here, Like.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I just came out.
- 14:24Speaker 1: He's like, come on, dude, and and he's like, I
- 14:27Speaker 1: d please, and then he has to like go through
- 14:30Speaker 1: the pro But I love I love the fact that
- 14:32Speaker 1: even this kind of stuff is like, yeah, dude, like
- 14:36Speaker 1: we want all of these people to fucking die. We
- 14:38Speaker 1: don't care about this nerd. We don't care. We hate
- 14:41Speaker 1: this god.
- 14:42Speaker 2: The movie openly has disdain for everyone, and and the
- 14:47Speaker 2: the only reason that we'll get into we'll get into
- 14:51Speaker 2: family Jason, we'll get into back Glorified, We'll get into that. Uh.
- 14:56Speaker 2: But the only reason the movie does that is to
- 14:58Speaker 2: also hate those people total.
- 15:02Speaker 1: But it doesn't. Surprisingly, it does not hate the people
- 15:06Speaker 1: that Jason invades. Those people are all actually like the
- 15:09Speaker 1: good ones, right, And it doesn't hate. It doesn't hate
- 15:14Speaker 1: the main characters of the movie that eventually become the
- 15:16Speaker 1: final girls of the movie, which is a family, the
- 15:19Speaker 1: final family.
- 15:20Speaker 2: One more thing I'll say is that this movie finally
- 15:23Speaker 2: also acknowledges that it isn't a Friday the thirteenth. It's
- 15:28Speaker 2: just that Jason goes to Hell. So we know the
- 15:31Speaker 2: whole movie that Jason is supposed to go to Hell.
- 15:34Speaker 2: This was honestly, if Dexter had done the last season
- 15:39Speaker 2: the way this was done, where it's like Dexter goes
- 15:42Speaker 2: to jail instead of Jason goes to Hell, I think
- 15:45Speaker 2: that would have been a better Dexter ending than what
- 15:48Speaker 2: we got. Like they find out in the first in
- 15:51Speaker 2: the first beginning, they find out that Dexter is the murderer,
- 15:55Speaker 2: and then they follow all the way through until he
- 15:57Speaker 2: gets caught at the end. And it's a different kind
- 16:00Speaker 2: of season, and this is a different kind of movie.
- 16:02Speaker 2: It's the different Jason movie. It's not a Friday the thirteenth,
- 16:06Speaker 2: And that way it's okay that he's not just sticking
- 16:09Speaker 2: to his regular form of killing the kids. It's not
- 16:11Speaker 2: just Jason. It's not just Jason now.
- 16:13Speaker 1: And what I really love is the nerd coming in
- 16:17Speaker 1: and Jason now in Richard Gant pulling out that tool
- 16:22Speaker 1: and he's like showing it, kind of a proud yeah,
- 16:26Speaker 1: and then he acknowledges it, and then and then he
- 16:29Speaker 1: prods him.
- 16:30Speaker 2: One thing I want to get to is we have
- 16:33Speaker 2: to talk about all of the individual Jason's like all
- 16:36Speaker 2: of the individuals, because everyone it's not just Jason.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Everyone's everyone's Jason Now.
- 16:43Speaker 2: I loved some of you may not know me at all,
- 16:46Speaker 2: but right now it's just Jason.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Honestly. I loved all the mirror shit too, where you
- 16:52Speaker 1: just see Kane Hodder in the mirror, like as people
- 16:55Speaker 1: are passing by. Man, it's such a good visual, such
- 16:58Speaker 1: a snappy like just the even a great storytelling.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And then he fucking fuck dude murders the cops because
- 17:08Speaker 1: they're like, huh, you see that bloated, massive, chunky, fucking
- 17:14Speaker 1: loser in there. Fuck that guy? Am I right? Doctor?
- 17:17Speaker 1: And he just turns around with the camera back in
- 17:20Speaker 1: first person view, like it just kills them, and then
- 17:24Speaker 1: cuts to this sleezebag Stephen Kulp, who we've seen in
- 17:29Speaker 1: a I think in a schwartzy which guy the TV
- 17:34Speaker 1: host guy.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Oh man, it's such a schwartzy actor. Okay, So so
- 17:39Speaker 2: this I loved the hard copy kind of vibe, the
- 17:44Speaker 2: like sensation news style reporting that's like actually like salacious,
- 17:52Speaker 2: fucking like, it's just tabloids. It's just tabloid.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Shit, totally, It's just Twitter.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Dude. It's so weird. It's so weird. It's so good.
- 18:01Speaker 1: And they did such a good they did such a
- 18:03Speaker 1: good job set it up perfectly because he's like, well,
- 18:06Speaker 1: you know, I care about crimes happening. This person died,
- 18:10Speaker 1: and this person died and these two police officers died,
- 18:13Speaker 1: and like setting him up as like a guy who's
- 18:16Speaker 1: like pretty obviously, pretty obviously a piece of ship and
- 18:19Speaker 1: covering it up really well and then tying it into
- 18:22Speaker 1: the lore of Crystal Lake. And then he goes to
- 18:24Speaker 1: interview fucking Duke who's dressed like Dog the bounty Hunter
- 18:30Speaker 1: that he was wearing. Dude, was incredible, where he's like
- 18:33Speaker 1: the long and him drinking the lemonade and being like
- 18:37Speaker 1: being asked a question and.
- 18:38Speaker 2: He's like, where is he interviewing him too? He seems
- 18:42Speaker 2: like he's on a resort or something. He's like and
- 18:45Speaker 2: he's being cool about it. He's like, oh, Jesson is
- 18:47Speaker 2: not dead. People need to realize, Jason Ghost.
- 18:51Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 18:54Speaker 2: Not Jason?
- 18:57Speaker 1: Me?
- 18:59Speaker 2: Just me, dude knows it's great.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Bodies like folks wear a suit. Oh, he may get
- 19:05Speaker 3: blown up, just this little inconvenience.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Man.
- 19:08Speaker 3: We'll just get his step another body.
- 19:10Speaker 1: Just get hisself a nothing, the true Jason boy.
- 19:15Speaker 3: It's something you and I have never seen before, mister Cannon.
- 19:19Speaker 3: There's only one way to put an end to him
- 19:21Speaker 3: all the time.
- 19:23Speaker 2: And I know one that knows the way is very
- 19:27Speaker 2: like the guy in Jaws. Oh yeah, totally scratching his
- 19:31Speaker 2: nail along the chalkboard. Yeah, but but super magical, not
- 19:37Speaker 2: escaping the magical black How did you.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Know any of this? And then the the sort of
- 19:45Speaker 1: you know, cut to we get the mom, the.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Mom, mom, sisters, my new mother, brother, Yeah, or he's and.
- 19:58Speaker 1: Her name is Jessica is a Jessica.
- 20:01Speaker 2: It's me Jessica. Yeah, I thought, so, I thought, so,
- 20:06Speaker 2: let me see. She this very Beth Grant kind of
- 20:11Speaker 2: style actor who is way too young, way too young.
- 20:16Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on this chill one second.
- 20:20Speaker 1: You was gonna hate this movie.
- 20:22Speaker 2: I was worried. I know, I was a little bit worried.
- 20:24Speaker 2: I was a little bit worried why. I don't know.
- 20:27Speaker 2: I was like, like, I get why people think it's bad,
- 20:31Speaker 2: but it's so good.
- 20:34Speaker 1: No, I don't get why people think it's sad.
- 20:36Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's amazing.
- 20:39Speaker 1: There's a couple of things that I know are a
- 20:42Speaker 1: problem for Jason fans or and stuff like that. It's
- 20:48Speaker 1: really it's really messy with the lore. But I have
- 20:51Speaker 1: something to say in defense of that. Diana, Diana is
- 20:54Speaker 1: her name.
- 20:57Speaker 2: It's very messy with the lore. But I I feel
- 21:00Speaker 2: like that's kind of in keeping with Jason too.
- 21:02Speaker 1: I know, totally. Like the Fifth One, the Fifth One
- 21:05Speaker 1: was so messy with the lore, like it didn't keep
- 21:07Speaker 1: it in Crystal Lake. He didn't murder people for the
- 21:09Speaker 1: same reasons as he did like who cares? Number one?
- 21:12Speaker 1: Who cares? It's a better move. It's like, I'll get
- 21:15Speaker 1: to my ratings of Jason's and like what I write
- 21:17Speaker 1: the movie. But Diana works in like the Crystal Lake area,
- 21:22Speaker 1: works at a local bar. I love the family that
- 21:25Speaker 1: owns the bar.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Dude, dude, the one. The woman who looks like Sheyla
- 21:30Speaker 2: from south Park, Pooky. If she needed to play if
- 21:33Speaker 2: there ever needed to be like a live action south Park,
- 21:36Speaker 2: she could this actor in this outfit, would have to
- 21:39Speaker 2: play would have to play her? Yeah, Pooky, she looks
- 21:42Speaker 2: like she's like base was the character based on her?
- 21:45Speaker 1: I have no idea, I have no idea.
- 21:47Speaker 2: But instantly, do you know what I'm saying though?
- 21:49Speaker 1: Right of course of course, yeah, absolutely, And we get
- 21:51Speaker 1: introduced to Shelby and Pooky and their kid, who's like,
- 21:56Speaker 1: is this how you want to make make these hamburgers?
- 21:59Speaker 2: No?
- 21:59Speaker 1: Like this, and she like fingers the meat.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Well, because they're making Jason masks out of the beef
- 22:05Speaker 2: patty meat. It was funny. That was a great idea,
- 22:08Speaker 2: just like that's why it's two for one, because we
- 22:10Speaker 2: use the meat from these circles to make another patty.
- 22:14Speaker 2: It was really funny. It was really really funny.
- 22:16Speaker 1: And it was great.
- 22:16Speaker 2: It was great to like opportunistic, I know, and like
- 22:20Speaker 2: making it like laurifying it in the city that these
- 22:22Speaker 2: people are like at this point cynical. They've had like
- 22:25Speaker 2: hundreds of people from their timely totally like it's kind
- 22:30Speaker 2: of cool. And they go through his kill count they
- 22:32Speaker 2: lurify the kill counter eight killed eighty three people.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Case case sent me the animes of anime, an anime
- 22:45Speaker 1: of Jason and Freddie and and like cool like designs
- 22:49Speaker 1: with their kill their respective kill counts of of the
- 22:53Speaker 1: like different characters. And but this movie had the anime
- 22:58Speaker 1: logic of like, yeah, we're somehow going to introduce like
- 23:02Speaker 1: federal police having to take care of this problem.
- 23:05Speaker 2: Oh, but I love that.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Speaking of police, Duke comes in and confronts Diana and
- 23:12Speaker 1: is like, I know how to kill Jason and Diana's
- 23:15Speaker 1: husband I guilt, which you brought up the age thing,
- 23:21Speaker 1: and it's like immediately apparent number one that she's like
- 23:26Speaker 1: almost the same age as this woman who's playing the woman.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Who's neglected by her alcoholic mother, Pamela Vorhies because of
- 23:36Speaker 2: the tragedy of Jason's death. Her life got overshadowed by
- 23:40Speaker 2: Jason's life and that's why we never heard about her. Yeah, exactly,
- 23:43Speaker 2: and her daughter, Jessica.
- 23:45Speaker 1: It's me Jessica. The police officer who's Diana's husband is like,
- 23:51Speaker 1: we don't take duke.
- 23:52Speaker 4: Kind they No, he totally is dude, and it's racial
- 23:59Speaker 4: to it's full rachel and there's there's some there's some light.
- 24:03Speaker 2: Cucking going on. There is definitely he could take your woman.
- 24:07Speaker 1: And he grabs he grabs the sheriff's arm and he
- 24:13Speaker 1: pulls himself up.
- 24:15Speaker 2: It's kind of like like a really like badass move. Yeah, totally.
- 24:19Speaker 1: And then Steven we get introduced to Stephen the husband.
- 24:22Speaker 2: The nerd you're talking about the nerd, the nerd, the
- 24:24Speaker 2: nerd husband, the nerd husband. Well, the ex he's the
- 24:27Speaker 2: nerd ex. He's not the husband. He's a boyfriend.
- 24:30Speaker 1: He's the boyfriend. Yeah, he's the baby daddy. He's the
- 24:32Speaker 1: baby daddy of niece. For he's no Johanna, second cousinsna, right,
- 24:40Speaker 1: what was her name? Her name is jess No, she's
- 24:43Speaker 1: his niece. She's directly his niece because she's the daughter
- 24:46Speaker 1: of Jessica is the niece, but the baby is the Oh,
- 24:49Speaker 1: the baby is.
- 24:50Speaker 2: A second cousin. I hate that cousin. Cousin. Jason yeah,
- 24:56Speaker 2: we get introduced to because sister Jason.
- 24:58Speaker 1: I really liked the fact to that Diana and and
- 25:03Speaker 1: Stephen are like cool with each other where it's like,
- 25:07Speaker 1: you know, we are connected because my grandkid is your kid, and.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, they have a relationship. They have an
- 25:13Speaker 2: existing relationship. She's not like weirdly cold towards him or
- 25:16Speaker 2: anything like that. She's like, I'll see what I can do.
- 25:19Speaker 1: But also continuing more of the lore of like women
- 25:23Speaker 1: throwing themselves at nerds.
- 25:25Speaker 2: But Steven is like driving around this is where I
- 25:28Speaker 2: was like, we're gonna wish for women writers.
- 25:32Speaker 1: Oh totally, And he's like, oh yeah, there's loose hot
- 25:34Speaker 1: hitchhikers and all of them are hot, like super hot,
- 25:38Speaker 1: like supermodel hot. And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm just
- 25:41Speaker 1: going into town. Where are you guys off to skinny
- 25:44Speaker 1: dipping at Crystal Lake And he's like, oh, you want
- 25:47Speaker 1: to get fucking murdered? Just kidding?
- 25:50Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well no, wait, what's the exact wording. It's
- 25:53Speaker 2: so funny. He's like, you're gonna go smoke some dope
- 25:56Speaker 2: skinny dipping and no smoke some dope. Oh premarital sex
- 26:02Speaker 2: and and and getting slashed and it's like, oh, dude,
- 26:07Speaker 2: it's like, I mean, I'm just kidding.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want to be picked up by people
- 26:12Speaker 1: like you when we're hitchhiking joking about murdering hitchhikers when
- 26:16Speaker 1: you're picking up is the feeling like the either the
- 26:18Speaker 1: most tired joke or like I don't really want to
- 26:23Speaker 1: get be in the car with you?
- 26:24Speaker 2: Dude, why did you make that joke?
- 26:26Speaker 1: Yeah, now I have to make you feel better about
- 26:31Speaker 1: making the stupid fucking joke you made exactly exactly.
- 26:35Speaker 2: So he's making them do emotional labor dude.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, dude, Jason has done so much.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Emotion emotional labor.
- 26:43Speaker 1: D She she's like, why don't you come with us?
- 26:46Speaker 2: She and she does it in a way that's very
- 26:49Speaker 2: cheeky and very familiar, in a way that again feels
- 26:54Speaker 2: very like wish fulfillment, because obviously the main character is
- 26:57Speaker 2: this nerd guy. Yeah I don't who rode himself in
- 27:01Speaker 2: the movie. And he's like, I can't. I'm a father
- 27:06Speaker 2: to someone. I'm sorry, I'm somebody's father because my daughter
- 27:12Speaker 2: is important.
- 27:14Speaker 1: Now Jason is related to her. But they do like
- 27:20Speaker 1: a nice job of putting that through line of these
- 27:26Speaker 1: are the kind of the main character. They're introducing little
- 27:29Speaker 1: bits of who the main characters are, and then we
- 27:32Speaker 1: get three more people that you can kill that are
- 27:34Speaker 1: introduced to this main character.
- 27:36Speaker 2: They use the kills in the story.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Story, right, it's the fucking boring.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Like this is the only Laura Jason for you.
- 27:45Speaker 1: It's just like it feels like like no, I'm just talking.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I'm talking about the last one specifically, because the last
- 27:51Speaker 1: one is so fucking boring, you know what I mean,
- 27:54Speaker 1: the last one. And it's just like fuck, dude, like
- 27:58Speaker 1: like nothing is keeping me from wanting to give this
- 28:02Speaker 1: movie a chance. This is this is a movie that's
- 28:05Speaker 1: just constantly like there's some stuff that I was like
- 28:08Speaker 1: a little cringe at, like that whole scene where he's
- 28:11Speaker 1: like come with us.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I was like, God Jesus.
- 28:14Speaker 1: But then it was like come get your dixa, Yeah,
- 28:16Speaker 1: exactly me.
- 28:17Speaker 2: They're missing out on a great But then but then
- 28:22Speaker 2: they have like a moment where.
- 28:24Speaker 1: The two girls to face. The two girls are like yeah,
- 28:28Speaker 1: they set up a tent and the two girls are like, hey,
- 28:31Speaker 1: can I have the tent for like a half hour?
- 28:33Speaker 1: And she's like just take it nice.
- 28:37Speaker 2: The fire. It's kind of nice because she's like they're
- 28:39Speaker 2: showing that she's gently rejected. She's fine with it, but
- 28:43Speaker 2: she feels a little, a little hurt, a little salty.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Yeah, which is fair because like this guy was a
- 28:47Speaker 1: fucking dickless loser who didn't fuck this girl. He could
- 28:50Speaker 1: fuck this girl and died with Jason dude.
- 28:55Speaker 2: No, his daughter was important, dude.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I don't believe that.
- 28:59Speaker 2: No, I'm kidding.
- 29:00Speaker 1: I did believe it. I actually did the family stuff.
- 29:03Speaker 1: I was like, I'm super.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Down with this. It kind of adds like he makes it. Well,
- 29:07Speaker 2: that's why it's part six of Freddy, dude, because that
- 29:10Speaker 2: was family Freddie.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Totally family Freddy. And this is a way better movie
- 29:14Speaker 1: than six, I agree, way way better. Well, because it's
- 29:18Speaker 1: the only Pantheon Jason, dude. Of course, it's the only
- 29:20Speaker 1: one we ever liked, the chunkiest, goopiest one man. The
- 29:27Speaker 1: girl who hit on Stephen goes out and she like
- 29:33Speaker 1: goes to p and is just killed by Richard Gant.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Uh And it's like, man like the honestly Richard Gant
- 29:41Speaker 2: gets like I would say a nine out of ten
- 29:43Speaker 2: Jason's for me totally if we're rating, if we're rating in,
- 29:48Speaker 2: and he's just, do you want to rate by kill
- 29:53Speaker 2: or rape by by host jump by worm host jump? Sure?
- 29:58Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, yeah, so I mean Richard, Yeah, he
- 30:03Speaker 1: gets out of He's like his posture and his like
- 30:07Speaker 1: determination of Jason to and also his face because we
- 30:11Speaker 1: never see resting Jason face really like we don't see
- 30:14Speaker 1: him unmasked much, so for him to be like a
- 30:17Speaker 1: largely maskless Jason in this and for it just just
- 30:20Speaker 1: to be like body performances and determination performances, I was like,
- 30:24Speaker 1: oh man, Richard Gant ten out of ten Jason's. The
- 30:27Speaker 1: other girl leaves to I guess, get a condom from
- 30:32Speaker 1: the bag, and she goes to pee and she hears
- 30:35Speaker 1: something and then comes back in and the guy's like,
- 30:37Speaker 1: come on, baby, I don't need a condom. It doesn't
- 30:41Speaker 1: feel good, man, oh man, And then she throws it
- 30:45Speaker 1: away and she's like, yeah, you're right, condoms don't feel good.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Listen. The complaining about condoms is so fucking such like
- 30:56Speaker 2: fucking loser behavior. Listen.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. She throws this condom into
- 31:02Speaker 1: the tent and it's somehow magically appears outside way further
- 31:07Speaker 1: in order for Richard Gant to step on it and
- 31:10Speaker 1: and the movie to be like, Yeah, condoms.
- 31:12Speaker 2: Condos fucking suck. Yeah, I mean I understand everyone, but
- 31:17Speaker 2: also like, am I gonna, like, I don't know, prevent
- 31:22Speaker 2: myself from having a good time because I have to
- 31:25Speaker 2: wear it? Yeah, because I gotta pull out and it's fine.
- 31:28Speaker 2: But yeah, if you're with someone, she doesn't. Did this
- 31:31Speaker 2: woman this the first time? This woman is fluid bonding
- 31:33Speaker 2: with this guy. Their fluid bonding.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, totally going without.
- 31:40Speaker 2: They're going barrierless together, you know, yeah.
- 31:43Speaker 1: Wearing they're not wearing those weird helmets where.
- 31:46Speaker 2: They're wearing the stalonelalone helmets. That's what the That's what
- 31:49Speaker 2: he was. That was what he's talking about. He's like,
- 31:51Speaker 2: you know, you gotta wear condoms, these these you know,
- 31:54Speaker 2: and that ship takes away of the feeling you know exactly.
- 31:56Speaker 2: I meant twenty twenty twenty four. You know, you got
- 32:00Speaker 2: prep and if you are gay, it doesn't even matter.
- 32:02Speaker 2: It doesn't even matter because I am. Actually but you
- 32:04Speaker 2: know what, when.
- 32:05Speaker 1: I go into a doctor's office and they're performing an
- 32:08Speaker 1: operation to put in some titties. I am going to
- 32:10Speaker 1: ask the doctor to put in bigger titties.
- 32:12Speaker 2: You know. I'm willing to make I'm going to I'm
- 32:15Speaker 2: going to make controlling decisions about another woman's body. It
- 32:19Speaker 2: doesn't matter gets pregnant.
- 32:21Speaker 1: She's gonna have to not get an abortion, you know,
- 32:23Speaker 1: because I ain't wearing condoms. You know. But I'm not
- 32:25Speaker 1: going to take care of the baby, you know, I'm not.
- 32:27Speaker 1: I'm not. She ain't getting any of the money.
- 32:31Speaker 2: If she doesn't have the last name, she's not getting
- 32:33Speaker 2: the money. You know, she might she might get some ail.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Listen, Frank, I ain't taking care. You could take care
- 32:39Speaker 1: of whatever you want, but I ain't helping you with this.
- 32:47Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, dude. Yeah.
- 32:49Speaker 1: So so Diana comes out of we we get not
- 32:55Speaker 1: really a kill with those two people in the tent.
- 32:57Speaker 1: We kind of get an assumption of what happened. No,
- 32:59Speaker 1: he he like butchers them, right, he like stabs them through,
- 33:03Speaker 1: stabs through her.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we see we.
- 33:07Speaker 1: See the first person's, first woman's dead body. He throws
- 33:10Speaker 1: away the condom.
- 33:12Speaker 2: The return of Titties and Jason.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Totally and the return of some good kills. The return
- 33:16Speaker 1: of some good kills and some fucking gore. Yeah, dude,
- 33:19Speaker 1: we got we were thirsty for gore in this one.
- 33:21Speaker 1: There was a guy that same guy twitter account that
- 33:24Speaker 1: does the re rem uh recoloring and stuff from old
- 33:31Speaker 1: videos and stuff on Twitter. Uh he uh fucking apparently
- 33:35Speaker 1: has a cut of the Unbuchered Jason part zone.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I heard and I heard that they'll
- 33:43Speaker 2: never get released.
- 33:44Speaker 1: This guy released it. He released it on online, re
- 33:48Speaker 1: restored it. Yeah, is that crazy?
- 33:50Speaker 2: Should we watch it? We should watch it.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Jason stabs through the tent classic move, not a bed
- 33:55Speaker 1: stab but a tent stab. Uh, and Diana comes out
- 33:59Speaker 1: of out of uh, out of the diner to fucking
- 34:05Speaker 1: throw some shit away and gets scared by the mustachioed cop.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Oh dude, and like this so obviously mustachioed cop. They
- 34:13Speaker 1: like focused in it was almost like they did, Like
- 34:17Speaker 1: were there some kind of like wide lens shots in
- 34:20Speaker 1: this of like, were there like Terry Gilliams style shots
- 34:22Speaker 1: in this? It felt very much like also like Part
- 34:27Speaker 1: six of Freddy was very wide lens Freddy, so this
- 34:31Speaker 1: feels wide lens. Jason, his wife comes to pick him up,
- 34:33Speaker 1: who's also seemingly way too hot for him. But whatever,
- 34:38Speaker 1: I mean, guy slaves, it doesn't matter. Jason MUSHes his
- 34:41Speaker 1: wife's head in the car door. He pushes the car
- 34:45Speaker 1: door and smushes her head. Oh dude, which is a
- 34:48Speaker 1: great fucking kill.
- 34:49Speaker 2: It's this actually, to see the head get squished like that,
- 34:52Speaker 2: I was like Tom Sevini in the house. Also, the
- 34:55Speaker 2: music was done by Minfreddy.
- 34:57Speaker 1: It was yeah, of course. And then we see Jason
- 35:02Speaker 1: doing some weird bondage with this cop and then shaving
- 35:06Speaker 1: his mustag. What a scene, dude.
- 35:08Speaker 2: It was so got I gotta say, I gotta say.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Kissing him dude, there were so much men kissing him.
- 35:14Speaker 2: First. At first, I was like, no rituals, Jason, No
- 35:19Speaker 2: fuck this. I was this. When I realized there was
- 35:23Speaker 2: Jason passing on the like symbiard worm through like shitting
- 35:29Speaker 2: this symbiard worm into it was like, it was like, gove, no,
- 35:33Speaker 2: it was she wanted he wanted to go. No him, Jason,
- 35:39Speaker 2: Jason's essence and okay, so lorifying the go no. I'm like, dude,
- 35:44Speaker 2: gov Jason. I'm like, dude, amazing, amazing going to Jason.
- 35:49Speaker 2: I was on board for going to Jason. And like
- 35:52Speaker 2: it's kind of like, yeah, shit is terrifying and shitting
- 35:56Speaker 2: into someone's mouth Adjason Adjason soul because it lauravies. It
- 36:01Speaker 2: kind of lauravies everything that I've been sort of guessing at,
- 36:05Speaker 2: and so it's exciting because of like the movies. Whoever
- 36:09Speaker 2: made this new that all of these I think Kay
- 36:14Speaker 2: said that the guy who made this was like a
- 36:16Speaker 2: twenty three year old who hated Jason. But I don't
- 36:18Speaker 2: think he did hate Jason. I think he loves I
- 36:21Speaker 2: don't give honestly he loved Jason. I think by the way, this.
- 36:25Speaker 1: Is also a thing with like fan warship and people like, oh,
- 36:29Speaker 1: if they just cater to the fans, they make a
- 36:31Speaker 1: better movie. It's like that's never true. That's almost I
- 36:34Speaker 1: ever disagree, I ever disagreed.
- 36:35Speaker 2: This movie takes some insane tales from the crypt from
- 36:41Speaker 2: the goose Bum style Joson listen.
- 36:44Speaker 1: This, this truly is the equivalent of I wrote a
- 36:49Speaker 1: script and put a Jason in it. I wrote a
- 36:52Speaker 1: different script and fuck everything, I've just putting a Jason
- 36:56Speaker 1: in it. Because it felt like Cloverfield Lane in a
- 37:00Speaker 1: way where I was like, man, this is such a
- 37:01Speaker 1: fucking good movie. I kind of wish it wasn't Cloverfield Lane,
- 37:05Speaker 1: but it's still a fucking awesome movie. In the same
- 37:07Speaker 1: way that I didn't don't. I don't want split to
- 37:10Speaker 1: be they call me mister Glass. Oh you don't want it,
- 37:13Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
- 37:14Speaker 2: But they kind of forced something into being a sequel.
- 37:16Speaker 2: This could have been a standalone too. Dude.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Well that's the thing, and that's why it's gonna affect
- 37:21Speaker 1: some of my points. But we get introduced to it's
- 37:24Speaker 1: me Jessica, who's the daughter of Diana, maybe maybe three
- 37:29Speaker 1: or four years younger than her, has a baby.
- 37:34Speaker 2: Three or four. She was dude watching it. I was like,
- 37:41Speaker 2: hi mom, and I was.
- 37:43Speaker 1: Like, I was like, you know that meme that you know,
- 37:49Speaker 1: that guy who's like the smiling guy who's like a
- 37:53Speaker 1: little bit confused and put a little bit like Jake Rols, putting.
- 37:56Speaker 2: Her a few strands of gray hair in her even
- 38:00Speaker 2: knows that it was like I, and also giving her
- 38:04Speaker 2: a much older boyfriend.
- 38:06Speaker 1: That was the weirdest part is that like it was
- 38:10Speaker 1: this young woman is with this old man and I
- 38:12Speaker 1: was like, oh, I guess and then it was like,
- 38:14Speaker 1: hi Mom, I was.
- 38:15Speaker 2: Like, I wish you could, I wish you see Alex's face.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 38:23Speaker 1: But we get we get all of the all of
- 38:26Speaker 1: the people. It's called the weave. We get random things
- 38:30Speaker 1: coming together. In this part where Jessica calls Dana, she's like, oh, hi, mom,
- 38:35Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, this five year old this five
- 38:38Speaker 1: years older woman is this one's mom? Okay? And then
- 38:40Speaker 1: fucking Robert Campbell, the news reporter, is kissing her and
- 38:45Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is the boyfriend, right, and like
- 38:49Speaker 1: it's called the weave.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Never has there been a more tales from the crypt
- 38:53Speaker 2: actor Danny mulroon in a Jason movie than the Boyfriend. Also,
- 38:59Speaker 2: we'll talk about the Jayson that I give him, because
- 39:01Speaker 2: he will also eventually be a Jason, but not yet.
- 39:05Speaker 2: Right now, he's the sleezy reporter guy from the hard
- 39:07Speaker 2: copy thing, and right away his appearance is like he's
- 39:12Speaker 2: a sleeve ball. This guy's not likable. No, he's got
- 39:15Speaker 2: Burke energy all over and he's got such.
- 39:17Speaker 1: A good like dick face. He's such as this guy's
- 39:20Speaker 1: actually really good, uh, like a really good actor. He
- 39:23Speaker 1: he the acting in this the acting, dude, I say,
- 39:28Speaker 1: I think I.
- 39:29Speaker 2: Think it's the best runs, dude. Totally Danny mal Roone
- 39:33Speaker 2: acting to the max, like everyone knew they were gonna
- 39:36Speaker 2: die and acted accordingly. Dude, speaking of.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Danny maul roon actors, this fucking mustachioed cop also does
- 39:47Speaker 1: a good uh like lurchy performance like uh Gate the
- 39:54Speaker 1: Jason Gate.
- 39:55Speaker 2: As soon as they adopt the like straight back gate,
- 40:00Speaker 2: they do the walk. Dude, I feel like almost all
- 40:03Speaker 2: of the Jason's in this were good, and we'll talk
- 40:06Speaker 2: about which ones were and weren't and why.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Now he's coming to Diana to kill Diana, who's the
- 40:11Speaker 1: last We don't know this yet, but he comes for
- 40:14Speaker 1: some reason. He grabs her and then she looks into
- 40:17Speaker 1: the mirror and sees Jason Jason, and I was like,
- 40:20Speaker 1: this is awesome, the fact that the family, well, no,
- 40:24Speaker 1: every I think.
- 40:24Speaker 2: Everyone sees him in the mirror. No, or do I
- 40:27Speaker 2: think maybe just.
- 40:30Speaker 1: This fucking Diana when she's like he grabs her head
- 40:35Speaker 1: and Diana fucking reaches into the drawer and pulls the
- 40:39Speaker 1: fucking gun out and shoots him in the head and
- 40:41Speaker 1: he just falls down and like the phone hits the
- 40:44Speaker 1: floor and like Jessica is like it's me Jessica being like, Mom,
- 40:50Speaker 1: what's happening. I'm only five years older than you, and
- 40:52Speaker 1: she thinks Jason the mustachio Jason is dead, but then
- 40:56Speaker 1: he like.
- 40:59Speaker 2: He reanimates, say that he shaved off that he shaved
- 41:03Speaker 2: off the mustache. He's not mustache, He's just poli. It's
- 41:07Speaker 2: like sometimes with like you have polis and like you
- 41:10Speaker 2: also have mustache. It takes away from the polis. But
- 41:12Speaker 2: if you get rid of the mustache, it's like, oh man.
- 41:15Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. And then Steven comes in and
- 41:20Speaker 1: he sees that Diana needs help and that the cops
- 41:23Speaker 1: is like trying to pooh like a gross thing in
- 41:26Speaker 1: her mouth, and he like fights him, but like he's
- 41:30Speaker 1: too strong adjacent.
- 41:32Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believed that this I believed, But I
- 41:36Speaker 2: also like that it explains a little bit that the
- 41:40Speaker 2: bodies of the host Jason's are more vulnerable.
- 41:45Speaker 1: Because because what happens is he sees the polo guy
- 41:50Speaker 1: form of a stachiode, he looks at himself in the
- 41:53Speaker 1: mirror and sees chunky mask folded over into the skin
- 41:58Speaker 1: Jason and has like a reaction before getting stabbed by Steven.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Okay, can I ask you something? Yeah? Do you think
- 42:06Speaker 2: now this is me talking about backlare Okay, do you
- 42:10Speaker 2: think that Jason, now that we've got this new information
- 42:14Speaker 2: that Hotday dewy Denbala, Jason had to occupy the body
- 42:19Speaker 2: host of a relative of his? Do you think that
- 42:24Speaker 2: the host inhabitants of the other movies so far that
- 42:27Speaker 2: we've seen, except for Part five of course, which was
- 42:30Speaker 2: copycat Jason, that those were all brothers or like relatives
- 42:36Speaker 2: of Jason. Do you think they were maybe like uncles
- 42:39Speaker 2: and shit?
- 42:41Speaker 1: Probably? I mean, I feel like that would.
- 42:43Speaker 2: Explain why every movie had its own Jason or sometimes
- 42:46Speaker 2: just Conning. But it's just Jon. No, I know, it's
- 42:51Speaker 2: just red Coonning. But like, help me out, maybe that like,
- 42:54Speaker 2: if we want to tease it out and be fun
- 42:57Speaker 2: about it and speculate, what do you think it would be?
- 43:01Speaker 1: I would probably assume that if it's some family lore, shit, yeah,
- 43:05Speaker 1: it must be like killing people, killing like family.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Members, killing them, inhabiting the inhabiting them.
- 43:11Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe, But I like the other one better. I
- 43:14Speaker 1: like the vagrance thing better.
- 43:16Speaker 2: I also like the vagrance is more in the lore.
- 43:19Speaker 1: It feels like a kid, a kid ghost trying to
- 43:24Speaker 1: grow up in different bodies. Kids go sometimes, kids seek sometimes.
- 43:31Speaker 2: Philip Kanye West, yeah kid cutty collub uh.
- 43:43Speaker 1: So her Diana's old husband comes back and she he
- 43:48Speaker 1: immediately thinks Stephen killed her because he's got blood on his.
- 43:51Speaker 2: Hands and he's like, blood starts.
- 43:54Speaker 1: I know he did dude, he did this. He won
- 43:57Speaker 1: me over with this man. Stephen is like, I didn't
- 44:01Speaker 1: I didn't do this right, and then he sees that
- 44:02Speaker 1: the mustache cop is disappeared.
- 44:06Speaker 2: Oh man, I actually fell for Steven in this scene.
- 44:09Speaker 2: Like this was a compelling moment because he's like, I didn't,
- 44:13Speaker 2: I didn't do He's like trying to be like, you
- 44:15Speaker 2: just jumped through the window, Like, oh so much jumping
- 44:18Speaker 2: through windows glorified Jason.
- 44:21Speaker 1: He gets taken to get interrogated by his doofy friend,
- 44:24Speaker 1: who I really liked, and I like the fact that
- 44:26Speaker 1: the townspeople fucking know each other. That also made it
- 44:29Speaker 1: into the movie where it was like, hey, why don't
- 44:32Speaker 1: these people like like in the in the sixth one
- 44:35Speaker 1: mm hmmm, where the sheriff and his daughter, Like that
- 44:39Speaker 1: was nice. That was like a nice way of like pairing,
- 44:43Speaker 1: like the characters Oh, Tommy is this guy who my
- 44:46Speaker 1: daughter likes. I don't want him near boy right like
- 44:49Speaker 1: stuff like that, like because he is a large boy
- 44:52Speaker 1: and she just gets to be smugger included in the movie.
- 44:55Speaker 2: So crazy to think how far removed at this point
- 44:58Speaker 2: we are from that Jason. Yeah, from part six Jason
- 45:02Speaker 2: and Part six was like fucking years ago at.
- 45:05Speaker 1: This I know, I know, and I love the fact
- 45:07Speaker 1: that the doofy friend is like.
- 45:10Speaker 2: In this twenty thirty reality.
- 45:12Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally, this doofye friend is like, I'm gonna
- 45:16Speaker 1: get you out, dude, Like, don't worry. I know you
- 45:19Speaker 1: didn't kill these people.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Yeah, the the trajectory of that friendship falling apart in this.
- 45:26Speaker 1: Movie, it's amazing because it's so realistic. Totally, it was
- 45:30Speaker 1: so realistic. Jessica comes home to her assistant trying.
- 45:34Speaker 2: To clean up the blood and she didn't water to Yeah,
- 45:37Speaker 2: blood starts and she didn't want her to see it.
- 45:39Speaker 2: And then she kind of like soft starts crying, but
- 45:43Speaker 2: is quickly happy at like her appreciating the baby baby Voorhies.
- 45:50Speaker 1: Baby Vorhees gets loved and attention in this Then we
- 45:55Speaker 1: get is Stephen coming out of getting in prison and
- 45:59Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, Like he's in jail, and
- 46:01Speaker 1: then he sees his own kid. Stephen sees Jessica and
- 46:05Speaker 1: her new gross weirdo, such a psycho, narcissistic. It's opportunistic,
- 46:13Speaker 1: fucking yeah, which is awesome and incredible. I loved it.
- 46:18Speaker 1: She has a type, dude, she totally does. But then
- 46:21Speaker 1: Stephen meets Duke.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Oh in jail. Yeah, this was funny and also I
- 46:29Speaker 2: loved it. Dude. Yeah. It was like, man, he's like,
- 46:33Speaker 2: come here and give me your heads, your heads, dude,
- 46:41Speaker 2: like just trusting someone. As soon as he said give
- 46:45Speaker 2: your heads, I was like, don't give me your heads.
- 46:47Speaker 2: Like immediately immediately, I was like, don't give your heads.
- 46:50Speaker 1: I liked the element of like this guy kind of
- 46:53Speaker 1: does like he's he's also opportunistic, being like I want
- 46:56Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars to kill Jason Vories.
- 46:59Speaker 2: I remember this scene making way more sense to me
- 47:03Speaker 2: as a kid than it did this time around of
- 47:06Speaker 2: like just randomly breaking in guy's fingers and then him
- 47:09Speaker 2: showing you how tough he is.
- 47:11Speaker 1: No, but it makes sense. Duke wants you to earn
- 47:14Speaker 1: the knowledge that he has it's not about money for him,
- 47:18Speaker 1: it's about like knowing his value.
- 47:21Speaker 2: But so he like, I know, I know. So he
- 47:22Speaker 2: like abuses, like he like physically like he he's justice breaking,
- 47:27Speaker 2: power hungry like as That's why I love Duke because
- 47:31Speaker 2: he's just like just as power hungry as who.
- 47:33Speaker 1: He's like a power hungry guys as the opportunist. Uh
- 47:38Speaker 1: Robert Campbell is the guy's name, but like he's the
- 47:41Speaker 1: one who. He's like, you need to get this information
- 47:43Speaker 1: from me, and the only way I'll do it is
- 47:45Speaker 1: breaking your fingers. But then he earns his respect and
- 47:48Speaker 1: he's like, I'll tell you this one for free. So
- 47:51Speaker 1: basically he tells.
- 47:52Speaker 2: Fingers but not the third one.
- 47:54Speaker 1: But he also gives him the idea to be like,
- 47:57Speaker 1: this fucking asshole broke my fingers.
- 47:59Speaker 2: That's that's that was great, and then use his hand
- 48:02Speaker 2: pretty normally for the rest of the rest of the movie.
- 48:04Speaker 1: Was pretty normal, dude, pretty normal. It doesn't matter.
- 48:07Speaker 2: It didn't need to be for the rest of the
- 48:08Speaker 2: movie did It was just so he could prove himself
- 48:10Speaker 2: to this guy exactly.
- 48:12Speaker 1: He explains that Diana was the sister of Jason Voorhees.
- 48:18Speaker 1: For some reason that didn't get mentioned. This is the
- 48:21Speaker 1: part of the movie where I was like, I did
- 48:25Speaker 1: remember this. When it happened, I was like, oh, yeah,
- 48:28Speaker 1: they did the they did the my sister Sister is
- 48:31Speaker 1: my new mother mother that they did with with Michael Myers.
- 48:35Speaker 2: So they not only.
- 48:36Speaker 1: Combined Freddy, but they combined Michael Myers.
- 48:39Speaker 2: This is why I think, dude, this movie is the
- 48:41Speaker 2: apex of all horrible Jason is the stallone dude, totally,
- 48:47Speaker 2: totally because Freddy. I think so too. I think it's
- 48:50Speaker 2: the opposite than from me.
- 48:51Speaker 1: What VANDAM is Michael Myers?
- 48:56Speaker 2: Well, VANDAM is Chuckie dude, who is also in the
- 48:59Speaker 2: same world because of the Magic Dude, the magic lorified dude.
- 49:03Speaker 2: All of them are in the same universe, I think.
- 49:05Speaker 2: And it's this movie that connects them. Yeah. Absolutely. And
- 49:08Speaker 2: the Necronomicon, Yeah totally. If the Necronomicon is in your movie,
- 49:12Speaker 2: then you're connected to all movies. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
- 49:15Speaker 1: So Stephen comes in and he's like, oh my gosh.
- 49:19Speaker 2: This one's listed as fantasy. Dude, it's listed as horror,
- 49:22Speaker 2: and it is fantasy. Totally. It's amazing.
- 49:24Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and his doofy friend. He gets pulled in
- 49:29Speaker 1: by Steven and he gets the gun and says he's
- 49:32Speaker 1: like gonna shoot him, but he's like, you're not gonna
- 49:34Speaker 1: shoot me. And he's like, well, you don't know. My
- 49:37Speaker 1: fingers are broken, dude, and my daughter is a warhees,
- 49:40Speaker 1: so my daughter, but my daughter, no, you can let
- 49:47Speaker 1: me out of this prison.
- 49:51Speaker 2: Totally, dude. But my daughter is.
- 49:54Speaker 1: One of Diana's coworkers comes in and she brings in
- 49:58Speaker 1: a baby barhees, and Shelby is immediately like, aren't you
- 50:02Speaker 1: a cute little girl? I loved? And the lady who
- 50:07Speaker 1: owns the diner is like, get that kid out of here,
- 50:10Speaker 1: that disgusting kid out of here.
- 50:12Speaker 2: I was like, whoa dude, geez, disgusting kid. Yeah. And
- 50:16Speaker 2: then but but job would be this weird in a
- 50:20Speaker 2: town this This shows also in a subtle way like
- 50:24Speaker 2: Freddy Parts six did the craziness of the town right?
- 50:28Speaker 2: That's terrorized by this person? Yeah, one hundred percent.
- 50:32Speaker 1: Stephen is hidden in the diner in the back just
- 50:36Speaker 1: to be able to see his baby, and the son
- 50:40Speaker 1: of Pooky and Shelby is like, here, take my car,
- 50:44Speaker 1: get out of here. You're probably a murderer, but I'm
- 50:46Speaker 1: gonna help you. Uh, And Stephen grabs the car and leaves.
- 50:50Speaker 1: He goes to the like their house, Like he goes
- 50:52Speaker 1: to the Vorehe's house.
- 50:54Speaker 2: Who does Stephen?
- 50:56Speaker 1: Okay, Stephen sees his baby and then that Robert Campbell
- 51:01Speaker 1: is on his cell phone, be like a ninety ninety
- 51:04Speaker 1: three cell phone, dude, uh and he here overhears his
- 51:09Speaker 1: plot and we get.
- 51:11Speaker 2: Oh right, so so we get yeah. Yeah. This reveal
- 51:15Speaker 2: was really cool because it makes the Jason transfer very satisfying,
- 51:19Speaker 2: because it's like, you're kind of relieved that the guy
- 51:23Speaker 2: becomes a Jason. Yeah. So so like you're we have
- 51:26Speaker 2: this like very goose bumps looking scene of Stephen in
- 51:31Speaker 2: the closet, overhearing cuck overhearing, jerking off to the information
- 51:36Speaker 2: of this guy. He's like, then I came home and
- 51:39Speaker 2: I fucked her man and I was just like, holy shit.
- 51:43Speaker 2: He's like, I went.
- 51:44Speaker 1: Over and I fucked a var He's and then I
- 51:47Speaker 1: stole the dead body and another He's like, his plan
- 51:51Speaker 1: is that he's gonna he stole the body of Diana. Yeah,
- 51:56Speaker 1: put it in the house so that when he comes
- 51:59Speaker 1: to the war he property.
- 52:00Speaker 2: Tomorrow We're gonna have number one ratings. It's all about
- 52:03Speaker 2: the the very best rating totally.
- 52:06Speaker 1: But then after the cop shifts Jason out of his
- 52:11Speaker 1: mouth into Robert Campbell's mouth, he fucking melts.
- 52:17Speaker 5: I was like, this is incredibly incrazy, incredible, goopy, ghostly
- 52:25Speaker 5: like ghools.
- 52:27Speaker 1: One man will change everything that It reminded me of
- 52:32Speaker 1: Robo cop when the goo falls on that guy and he's.
- 52:35Speaker 2: Like, but like, yeah, goo goo, Jason is my favorite,
- 52:40Speaker 2: like having like a goo face like touch a surface
- 52:44Speaker 2: and then.
- 52:45Speaker 6: They fall apart and they fly apart like geez dreams, yeah, dreams, Sarah.
- 53:23Speaker 1: It was also a very terminator.
- 53:24Speaker 2: It was a very It's amazing. It was amazing. This
- 53:27Speaker 2: is like the the pieces of Jason and like goo
- 53:31Speaker 2: faces and like and the way he melts. He's like
- 53:36Speaker 2: just like fucking dies.
- 53:37Speaker 1: And then and then he stands up and like, this
- 53:40Speaker 1: guy is Jason such a great Jason. He did a
- 53:44Speaker 1: really awesome job.
- 53:45Speaker 2: Campbell, Oh my god, I was like, do you think
- 53:48Speaker 2: they named him Campbell after Bruce Campbell? That was like all.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Sas maybe, But then we get a really nice moment
- 54:01Speaker 1: of Jessica sobbing in the washroom, like taking a shower, sobbing.
- 54:06Speaker 1: She's scared that her kid's gonna get fucking taken.
- 54:09Speaker 2: Away, her kid's gonna get Jason jasoned.
- 54:12Speaker 1: And her husband is like a fucking disgusting piece of
- 54:15Speaker 1: shit who's also now a Jason and.
- 54:18Speaker 2: Not her husband. He's a boyfriend, Your boyfriend, Yeah.
- 54:21Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, boyfriend, partner, whatever. The lights turn off,
- 54:24Speaker 1: and we've got get another scene of oh my god,
- 54:27Speaker 1: like what's happening. She gets out of the shower and
- 54:31Speaker 1: goes downstairs, goes to get a flashlight from the car,
- 54:36Speaker 1: and Campbell comes in and he like almost barfs into
- 54:41Speaker 1: her mouth. But then Steven comes in and punches Campbell
- 54:44Speaker 1: and like picks her up. It's a good hero it's
- 54:47Speaker 1: a good hero moment, and it's a perfect moment. Well,
- 54:50Speaker 1: we'll get to the perfect moment.
- 54:51Speaker 2: I know what you're getting at. I think it kind
- 54:53Speaker 2: of makes the movies choices make sense to give this
- 54:58Speaker 2: guy this a.
- 54:59Speaker 1: Hero gets a hero moment. Fireman picks her up, throws
- 55:03Speaker 1: her in his neck, gets grabbed by Campbell, and he
- 55:06Speaker 1: drives off.
- 55:07Speaker 2: And she kind of is like doesn't believe him, but
- 55:11Speaker 2: sort of believes him.
- 55:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he crashes into Campbell and then drives over,
- 55:17Speaker 1: drives over his body. Fairy t one thousand.
- 55:20Speaker 2: Totally dude, But like the body is hurt. Yeah, the
- 55:23Speaker 2: Jason host bodies hurt. He's still able to like muse
- 55:26Speaker 2: it and maneuver him because it's just a sack of meat, right,
- 55:30Speaker 2: But like, but he's like, yeah, totally, and he acts
- 55:34Speaker 2: that for the rest of this. He does, he does.
- 55:36Speaker 2: He's still alive in this. It's incredible. And then Steven
- 55:40Speaker 2: is like yelling at her like we didn't rate the
- 55:43Speaker 2: mustachioed cop Jason. Okay, what are you rating him? What
- 55:47Speaker 2: are you reading?
- 55:49Speaker 1: No?
- 55:51Speaker 2: Why?
- 55:53Speaker 1: Well, I guess he gets the gush. Yeah, he's He's amazing.
- 55:57Speaker 1: I mean they're all amazing.
- 55:58Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. This is an eleven out of ten.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Jason's dude, And we'll get to why.
- 56:03Speaker 1: But I also love the fact that right after, like
- 56:08Speaker 1: Steven is like yelling at her, being like what are
- 56:12Speaker 1: you doing? Like, I'm trying to save you. He's not
- 56:14Speaker 1: your boyfriend anymore, right, which is true, But then she's like,
- 56:18Speaker 1: what are you fucking talking about?
- 56:19Speaker 2: You are my.
- 56:21Speaker 1: Ex boyfriend who left me and now you're fucking punching
- 56:25Speaker 1: my boyfriend after he tried to weird mushmouth me.
- 56:28Speaker 2: And she doesn't, she doesn't.
- 56:30Speaker 1: Know what's going on, which is such a like nicely
- 56:33Speaker 1: realistic reaction as opposed to a couple of Jason's where
- 56:37Speaker 1: it's like, isn't that a real reaction?
- 56:39Speaker 2: Would you do this?
- 56:41Speaker 1: Could you be there?
- 56:45Speaker 2: Counseler.
- 56:46Speaker 1: So she goes back to I think her dad. This
- 56:50Speaker 1: is her dad, right, the police officer, the old man.
- 56:53Speaker 2: Okay, man, whose dad is he?
- 56:56Speaker 1: Jessica's no, oh, Diana with the old man.
- 57:03Speaker 2: I don't know if it was, though, I don't know
- 57:05Speaker 2: if it was. It seemed like she was that was
- 57:07Speaker 2: a new boyfriend to the mom. Okay, that's that's the
- 57:12Speaker 2: feeling I got.
- 57:13Speaker 1: Well, her sheriff whatever dad, new dad or whatever, sister
- 57:18Speaker 1: is my new mother mother. She goes to him obviously
- 57:21Speaker 1: because you know, like she's gonna take solace, right.
- 57:25Speaker 2: The chad dude, he's the chid.
- 57:30Speaker 1: Randy is the cop, by the way, the doofy cop.
- 57:33Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call him Randy. Randy comes to pick
- 57:36Speaker 1: up Steven and he's like, all right, get in the car,
- 57:39Speaker 1: and Steven tackles him and they fight pretty realistically, and
- 57:43Speaker 1: then they sit side to side and he's like, okay, here,
- 57:47Speaker 1: you're gonna get in the car. And he's like, you're
- 57:49Speaker 1: gonna put the cuffs on. He's like, I'm not gonna
- 57:51Speaker 1: get in the car and I'm not gonna put the
- 57:52Speaker 1: cuffs on. I have a gun. I have a gun too.
- 57:56Speaker 2: I love this gun, Jason.
- 57:58Speaker 1: It felt so much like these two guys, these two
- 58:02Speaker 1: guys know each other and they're they're they're really good friends.
- 58:06Speaker 2: Oh dude, it was amazing. This like shoot off and
- 58:09Speaker 2: like the like kind of like tussle that they have
- 58:12Speaker 2: too is pretty cool. I love it.
- 58:14Speaker 1: And then he's like he's he's like they point the
- 58:17Speaker 1: guns at each other, and he's like, Jessica's at the
- 58:21Speaker 1: police station right now, and he's like, all right, cuff me.
- 58:25Speaker 1: And I love that too, because it was like he
- 58:28Speaker 1: used the idea of like I'm getting get to Jessica
- 58:31Speaker 1: through you good, like I'm gonna take advantage of this.
- 58:35Speaker 2: And then okay, okay, all right, all right, we'll get
- 58:39Speaker 2: we'll get to it.
- 58:40Speaker 1: All right, all right, fine, we'll get We'll get to
- 58:41Speaker 1: it in a second.
- 58:42Speaker 2: Because Hopscotch.
- 58:45Speaker 1: Well guess just one sec. Finally the old man has
- 58:52Speaker 1: calmed her down and Robert Campbell as Jason comes into
- 58:58Speaker 1: the police officer I'll turn it one, and fucking throws
- 59:02Speaker 1: the cop immediately. There's the split dioptera in this scene
- 59:06Speaker 1: where the cop the police, she is on the phone
- 59:09Speaker 1: and Jason is just in the background, like taking her
- 59:12Speaker 1: hostage and fucking killing cop. And then he tries to
- 59:15Speaker 1: pooh the poo the symbiote in in her mouth. He
- 59:19Speaker 1: punches the chief in the nose as Stephen comes in
- 59:24Speaker 1: and he jumps over, hands behind his back.
- 59:27Speaker 2: He hopscotches over his arm under his arms.
- 59:31Speaker 1: Yeah, like I was like free his arms up.
- 59:34Speaker 2: I was down, dude.
- 59:35Speaker 1: I was like.
- 59:37Speaker 2: Amazing.
- 59:38Speaker 1: It was awesome, fun, fun, paras the greatest.
- 59:42Speaker 2: It was such a good scene. And he fing just
- 59:46Speaker 2: starts shooting.
- 59:47Speaker 1: He's just start fucking shooting. Hits fucking Randy in the
- 59:50Speaker 1: face and grabs his gun so slickly and just starts
- 59:54Speaker 1: shooting down the hallway. This is all Terminator too, dude.
- 59:57Speaker 1: This was all fucking Terminator two. And then he's fucking
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: shooting through him and then he shoots him in the
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: head and fucking Robert falls back down. Three outrageous cops
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: come in and they're like so pointy and like doing moves.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: It was great. And then Robert Campbell gets back up
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: and starts like killing all three of those cops. The
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: duke fucking punching one of the cops and laughing and
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: stealing his keys to get out, and uh, Steven and
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: Jessica go to the diner and they're like, where's my baby?
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: Where's my baby? And the fucking diner lady fucking pointing
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: the gun already taking that baby away.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: Loves the love. I love fun throughout the day.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: I just assumed she was like, Oh, this baby's kind
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: of cute. I do love this baby, you know what
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: I mean? The son of who he and Shelby goes
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: outside with a gun erradically pointing it everywhere and like
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: doing moves with it. Robert Campbell Jason, who I think
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: is like, but this guy is like, now.
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: Good a good final boss. I agree? I agree because
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: he's bad on two front.
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: And Jason just breaks his arm in.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Half and like and like you see bone exposed Jason.
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved all the slow motion shit in this scene.
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: Fucking Stephen and Diana slow motion jumping over after not Diana, Jessica.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: After Jessica fucking smashes Hooky in the face and then
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: jumps over. And then the coworker waitress lady fucking pulls
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: out the shotgun and is like shooting Campbell as well
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: as Stephen fucking shooting Campbell going to the back trying
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: to get the baby, and then Shelby like and Campbell
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: MUSHes his face into the deep friar and then elbows
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: Hooky in the face and her jaw MUSHes in.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: Oh man, that was look at this to make it
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: big to think to do that. Amazing, Such an amazing choice.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: This ending, This ending is like so much is happening,
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: and it's.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Very Tails from the Cript.
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: It's very action packed, but he totally is Tails from
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: the Crip, and it feels like it feels like also
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: a little bit like movie Tales from the Crypt, like
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: Demon Knight or whatever it's called.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Yeah, movie Tales from the Crypt, Demon Knight.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: It does take so much from Terminator.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: I'm watching it now, I'm like Terminator two specifically, yeah,
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: and Terminator one. Because the waitress she shoots Campbell in
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: the leg after Campbell breaks through the window trying to
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: take Jessica away after she's run out a bullets. She
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: picks up a bar and shoves it through him, and
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: then he takes the waitress and shoves her through the bar. Awesome,
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: totally awesome, very very very.
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: Cool creative kills and again continuing storytelling kills.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Yeah, and this fucking face dude, like he has like
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: red eyes, he's covered in blood.
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: He's an amazing Jason.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: He's an amazing Jason.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: The way his skin starts like falling apart in graying.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: Totally and he falls down because we think he's dead.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: But then Jessica comes out and she's like, because she's
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: read a note in the basket where the baby was earlier,
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: come to the Vorhees' house, don't bring anybody. I have
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: your baby. And she leaves because she's like, Okay, Stephen
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: can't be there because he's going to do something wild
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: with the baby. Stephen goes back inside and he reads
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: the note so he knows where to go. Yeah, and
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: it's it's side Duke, so he knows who took the baby.
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: And he sees the machete on the wall and he
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: goes to grab it and she ends up at the
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: Vorhe's house. It's also very at this point, it's also
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: very frighteners energy as well.
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: Oh, totally totally Peter Jackson. It's because of the fantasy element.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Totally totally dude. She comes into the Vorhe's house and
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: Duke is there with the baby, very.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Menacing, very scary, but I love Duke.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best characters of all time,
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: of all of the Jason's I agree. And he's got
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: a dagger that he explains.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Have like threatening, seeming to threaten the baby with the dagger.
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: Totally totally, but then it he throws it at her
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: and then she she's like, okay, like, I'm not doing
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: this fucking crazy shit. I'm leaving Jason's dead. I'm getting
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: the fuck out of here, which makes sense because why
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: the fuck would you believe in magic on any of this.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: But then he fucking whips a dagger at her, which
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: she catches and it magic.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: Dagger and with like like kind of fantasy charms on it,
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: and you're like, and from here on in you're in
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: magical weird things that were and shall be again.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: By God. Dead bye done dead, bye Don dead bye don.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Reality like This is where the movie becomes an evil
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: dead movie. At the end, it fully be comes evil
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: dead reality.
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: We see a cop enter into the house first person
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: style or not enter the house, enter the diner first
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: person style, and we get a jump scare from Robert
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: Campbell eating that guy's face.
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: Uh, and then he comes.
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: The dad of Jessica comes with Randy, and Duke is like,
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: don't trust either of them.
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: Kill them both, yeah, because any of them could be
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: Jason would be Jason, and I love that. I love
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: that he's like that paranoid and we're kind of like,
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: we don't know which one of them which, and they're
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: both acting kind of really weird. And what she does
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: kind of like a weird switcheroo thing here, where like.
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: Yeah, what happens is we don't know which cop entered
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: the diner and who who took over the which body.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: What happens is she kills the dad instead of Randy,
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: and Randy is actually the Jason now, who I think
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: is the worst of the Jason's right, And then he
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: tries to.
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: Keep kind of more like a bit of a transitionary
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: Jason totally and would you give would you give? What
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: would you give? Campbell.
- 1:06:09Speaker 1: This is more like a transit. It's like an eight.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: He does a good job barfing into the baby's mouth
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: because he is scary, dead eyed, scary like. But then
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: fucking Steven comes in with the fucking machete and cuts
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: his throat and he falls down.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: Oh, and he slices his head open, and then like
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: fucking worm, simbid worm comes out and he just baby Freddy.
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: It's like baby Freddy. It looks like Baby Freddy. It's
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: also it looks to me exactly like Evil Dead Puppets.
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: It looks to me like evil Dead Puppets. And it
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: also looks to me like to me in the kind
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: to me, I gotta a look a bit of cheat.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: There's that episode of Twin Peaks where people barf out
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: of a fucking ant thing from space. Also reminded me
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: of that. But yeah, then this like puppet comes out
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: and it's like, what is this? What is this? And
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: the puppet finds the dead body that Robert Campbell Brown.
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: Rot Stephen talks to Duke and he's like, wait a minute,
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: if it needs to go into a vari's host, does
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: that host need to be dead or alive? And they
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: don't even answer the question because suddenly there's like a
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: skin face Joson.
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: Dude jumps so athletically out of.
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: Caine Hatter's full body, and Dude, I was re listening
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: to Part eight episode you keep insisting that this guy
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: can't do pull ups. I'm like, I think he can.
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: I cannot do pull up.
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: I think he can. I don't think so, I think
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: he can. I think a person of this mask can
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: lift their own body weight. That's part of the way
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: that they're getting like it's it's all biceps. They can
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: just if they can lift a lot of weight, they
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: can lift themselves. No, that doesn't it doesn't work that way.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: Man, Like like I can, I can lift myself like this, yeah,
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: and like this like both both a pull up and this.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Is a chin up. Yeah, I can do both of those.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: But it's not like I can I can lift, you know,
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty pounds, like just doing bicep curls, right,
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: Like it's different if you're working out different muscles.
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: So, so like a guy who's like like a lot
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: of people who are like big, like massive, like Jeff
- 1:08:38Speaker 1: is really like my friend Jeff is like really jacked
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: now right, but he struggles to do a pull up
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: because it's just different, like he's not working.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Those muscles as pumping up.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Yeah, he's doing different like.
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but I yeah, maybe, I.
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: Mean he's a wrestler. He doesn't necessarily doing like pull
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: ups for that I.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Feel I still feel like, well, I mean, I mean
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: maybe not now, not now, well, not now, he's not
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: doing finger the.
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: Loan, Yeah, exactly, oh man. And then Duke fucking dying,
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: Duke fucking trying to like put candcuffs on Jason. I loved.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: I thought it was fucking great. Duke gets like a
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: pretty big hero moment in this very chaotic ending.
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it is a very chaotic ending and hard.
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: To keep track of all of the details of everything
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: that happens.
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Well, he tries to pull what's it called, He tries
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: to pull uh, Jessica towards him, and then Duke grabs
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: Jason's arm, handcuffs him, and then handcuffs himself, and then
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: he bear hugs Duke and breaks his and breaks his spine, implied.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: Breaks his spine, and like they're all very like Stephen
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: and Jessica are both very sad when they see Duke
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: get get crushed.
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: And Stephen like tackles Jason outside the window and like
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: breaks through and they have a rake fight with each
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: other and Jason is just hitting him with the rake.
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: It was awesome. It was awesome.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: And then having like a cool fight scene doing like
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: wrestling moves.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: It was fun. It was like really like it was
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: I really feel like each Jason, no matter what, say
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: what you want about each of them, they have actively
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: amped up the like anti and successfully done so very gradually. Yeah, totally,
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Imagine the first Jason versus
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: this Jason, you know, totally totally.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Jason throws Stephen onto man, this was so sick. He
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: throws him onto like a weird jungle gym thing and
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: then throws that the jungle gym thing, and man, Jessica
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: comes out slow motion with the knife in a wide
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: and fucking jumps on his back and stabs him through
- 1:11:13Speaker 1: the fucking heart and like the she he throws her off,
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: and the like sperms start flying.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: The orange the orange orange sperm and then she fucking
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: chucks the dagger in deeper.
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Steven starts punching him in the face and he starts
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: getting like the orange lights flickering out of his face,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: and then she kicks the dagger into his hard puppet
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: hands start to come out of the ground, Dude, the
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: most jim Hens in hands. Puppet face chunks out of
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: the mask, and then it looks the puppet hands start
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: grabbing Steven too, dude.
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: I loved I loved it. And like when Steven grabs
- 1:11:57Speaker 2: onto the hand of Jessica and.
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: And Jason grabs onto him while he's getting pulled down
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: and the like skybeam opens up and pushes him down
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: into hell and they're both safe, which you know what
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: super earned I super loved it. They kiss.
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: I mean, Jason's survivals arelorified, dude. And plus this is
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: family now, so like a piece of Jason has survived.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: Yeah, and they ride off into the sunset with their baby, and.
- 1:12:26Speaker 2: Then and then and then and we get a little
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: we get the most important epilogue in all of horror
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: and history. A little bit, little bit of dust gets
- 1:12:37Speaker 2: blown off and around the dog. If they're on Mars,
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: they're on the canonical Mars.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: Of Oh yeah, totally, it's the face on Mars. We
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: see Jason's mask exposed.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: And then, dude, we see a Freddy hand.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: A Freddie hand voiced by Cane Hatter terribly comes out,
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: pulls the.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: Mask into the ground, into hell to hell, and dude,
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: we get laurified Freddy Jason and also, of course ashen
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: necronomicon Jason, of course, dude, Kane Hotter. So I've I yeah, great,
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: not no, it's the prime time bitch exactly exactly I think,
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: but but still laurified. I think I've read that Kane
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: Hodder kind of fancies himself a bit of a like
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: too much of a guru of all horrors, like like everybody,
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: like there's people that kind of like resent him for it,
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: Like you know, he's he's he thinks he's like got
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: a more goaded status than he actually does. I mean,
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: that's what I've read. How do you feel, I feel, like,
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: how do you respond to those allegations?
- 1:13:56Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know. Maybe maybe
- 1:13:59Speaker 1: he's more like this sallone of the series, you know
- 1:14:01Speaker 1: what I mean. He's bringing people together, he's figuring it out,
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: as opposed to Freddy, who's got this expendables dude, this
- 1:14:08Speaker 1: is expendables actually, Actually, Freddy versus Jason is the expendables.
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: I can't wait to get to that. Dude. We will
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: cover Freddy versus Jason again.
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we should with this context.
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: Of course, we need to. We need to. We need
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: to see it for what it truly is, and that
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: is adjacent Jason. Yeah, totally.
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: I mean it Also, it does make more sense as
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: a Jason movie because of the fact that Jason has
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: such erratic titles. This feels like, like, you know, Fast five,
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: Fast and Furious, the Fast and the Furious, you know,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: like as opposed to Freddy, which is like nyrin Elm Street,
- 1:14:48Speaker 1: Nimrinem Street, Freddy's Revenge Nimrolm Street three, Dream Warriors, Nyro
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: three four, Dream.
- 1:14:55Speaker 2: Dream Master, NIM three five, Dream Child.
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: Yeah, on M Street six, which is final Freddie's Dead.
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: That's the first time in five movies that we've had
- 1:15:08Speaker 1: those kinds of erratic titles. But then again, I mean we've.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: Got Rambo.
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: First Blood, you know, uh so it's it's happened, but
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: it's less consistent with with this one, which I'm down
- 1:15:22Speaker 1: with me to.
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: Uh So, like let's get to let's get to where
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: this sits. I'm I'm less, I'm less concerned with your
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: rating as I am with where this sits for you
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: in the lore. Yeah, because like I really do think
- 1:15:47Speaker 2: that this is kind of like almost an apex movie
- 1:15:50Speaker 2: in a sense that it like really ambitiously tries to
- 1:15:54Speaker 2: tie together all horror movies. Freddy's in the same universe,
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: as as Jason and Jason's in the same univers as
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: I would, I would put all of them in there.
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: I would put all of them in there, because if
- 1:16:06Speaker 2: there's magic in your lore, then maybe it's in a
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: magical universe that contains a Jason.
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: It's ambitious in that way. To try and laurify several
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: different franchises in this and reference several different franchises is
- 1:16:21Speaker 2: super super ambitious, so weird.
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: While at the same time, the greatest thing about this
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: movie is not just the black Jason, but the first
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: black Jason, dude. Canonically, what I think is important is
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: the fact that like, within that glorification, they managed to
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: make a pretty good standalone movie.
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: Mindself, I think so.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: Like you don't really need to know you find out
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: about Jason.
- 1:16:50Speaker 2: That's what you don't need to know anything.
- 1:16:52Speaker 1: In fact, that's why this is the best Jason.
- 1:16:54Speaker 2: But that In fact, that's why I think this laorified
- 1:16:57Speaker 2: this Jason for us, because we just we didn't have
- 1:17:01Speaker 2: to get there by getting there through all the movies.
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: We just got there with this one movie. And I think, like,
- 1:17:07Speaker 2: I mean, I think for that reason, it's interesting.
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's the most interesting of them all. I
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: would say, one hundred, dude, I'm telling you it's I'm
- 1:17:18Speaker 1: not asking. I'm not asking. I'm telling I'm I am
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: excited to tell you about my my ratings because I
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: would give this easily, easily a ten out of ten, easily.
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Of Jason's like of machetas, I'm gonna give it a nine.
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna give it a nine. Part time and Part nine.
- 1:17:36Speaker 1: It's not it's not a not a perfect, it's not
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: a perfect ten.
- 1:17:40Speaker 2: I would say they're like a perfect.
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: I would say that like as a as Jason movies gone,
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: I would probably put like Part three, Part four, Part two,
- 1:17:51Speaker 1: those are like my like high ups.
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: But like really try and focus on those piece. I'm sorry,
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: you're so you you pop Part two, Part four, Sorry,
- 1:18:00Speaker 2: I'm not I'm exaggerating, but like it is very well.
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep doing it now anyway, uh, part four,
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do? That's how I talk.
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: You can play part four. Part four not Toronto, It's Toronto.
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: I would say nine out of ten, easily, nine out
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: of ten. I loved this movie. I fucking love it.
- 1:18:25Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it so easily, easily nine out of ten.
- 1:18:28Speaker 2: I also love it. I would get brought back so
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: many Danilo memories.
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: I would give it in terms of Jason's I'd probably
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: give it a seven. I'd probably give it a seven.
- 1:18:40Speaker 2: I'd likely give it a seven.
- 1:18:41Speaker 1: I'd likely give it a seven just because of the
- 1:18:44Speaker 1: fact that it doesn't have enough Jason in it as himself,
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: as like a chunky Kane Hotter. It does have. It
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: gets a lot of points for the fact that, like
- 1:18:58Speaker 1: they do it very cleverly. But that's like a big thing,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I disagree, I have that's fair,
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: that's fair. I'm just saying that, like, I want to
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: give the nine out of ten because I know, like
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: fans aren't fans of this one, and that's fine, but
- 1:19:16Speaker 1: they're not fans of this one for very particular reasons.
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: And part of it is the fact that it's not
- 1:19:21Speaker 1: a jacent movie. It's really not.
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: It's not adjacent Movie thirteen only it's almost But I
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: can I make my can I make my case.
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm not done.
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: I'm not done.
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: So, like, I get why people don't like it. It's
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: it's hard to sell the fact that, like it feels
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: kind of like a different movie. You could just kind
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: of take Jason out of it and make a whole
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: new movie out of it, right, So, like you know,
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: that's fair, But it's awesome. It does so much more.
- 1:19:59Speaker 1: But that's thing, and the law can the fact that
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: it can function by itself is very appealing to people.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: People want to say that they hate this movie.
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: People do do people do?
- 1:20:11Speaker 2: People want to say that they hate this movie, But
- 1:20:13Speaker 2: they don't. They in fact, they use the lore of
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: this movie the most of any of any of them.
- 1:20:19Speaker 2: It is because they they've considered this, this collection and
- 1:20:26Speaker 2: connections of lores the most. No other movie gives us
- 1:20:30Speaker 2: this much backlaw and story. What I will say is
- 1:20:34Speaker 2: of the Jason.
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: Jason's Sister is like a shitty move. It's a really like.
- 1:20:39Speaker 2: It's a huge fuck you to the fandom.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: And and it hurts a little bit. But they they're
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: they're very great. It's like almost like watching, you know,
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: watching that lady do that fucking amazing flip because she
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: was like, I've lost anyway, so fuck it, I'm gonna
- 1:20:57Speaker 1: do this cool ass flip that's illegal and then hurt.
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: Like the little stumble that's the that's the sister in
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: this it's a little stumble of a perfectly almost perfectly move.
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's almost so perfectly executed that it really
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: does laurify sisters, my new mother mother Jason, and I think, okay,
- 1:21:19Speaker 2: so can can I can I please make the case
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: I I I disagree with you in a way because
- 1:21:25Speaker 2: I think Kane Hodder comes into this movie with such
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: a confident Jason feel that he's like, I don't have
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: to be in the whole movie. When I do show up,
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: I'll be fucking chunky and cool, balding Jason with strands
- 1:21:38Speaker 2: of long hair. Jason. I'll be deeply soaked into the face, masson.
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: Melted, the mask, melted into the head.
- 1:21:47Speaker 2: And then I'll also be able because everybody's so Jason,
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: and like it's almost like, of course, when you sequalify
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: something to the ninth part, it does become a simuli
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: where everyone becomes the thing. It's like Saw. It's like
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: everyone Saw Now, We're all Saw now, and like I
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: feel like this movie does We're all Jason now in
- 1:22:10Speaker 2: a good way because all the people who were Jason
- 1:22:14Speaker 2: were so good at being Jason. So if I gave
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: so many of them tens out of tens, I can't
- 1:22:19Speaker 2: give this movie a seven Jason's because they all did
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: Jason in a good way. We've always Jason's always been
- 1:22:28Speaker 2: different people. Jason's always been different people, and this movie
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: brings back different people being Jason. And I think it
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: works in the favor of the movie because it's like, Okay,
- 1:22:38Speaker 2: if you're gonna up the ante, then make multiple people
- 1:22:41Speaker 2: Jason's and they all were Jason, and that word really was.
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: That's for me why I would give this movie a
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: ten out of ten Jason's because it was a group effort.
- 1:22:51Speaker 2: It's ensemble Jason.
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally. I'm just saying that's not necessarily my
- 1:22:57Speaker 1: personal writing. I love it. I love it as a movie,
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: but I do understand where lore can affect certain kinds
- 1:23:06Speaker 1: of outcomes of characters and how they they're portrayed and
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: stuff like that.
- 1:23:11Speaker 2: But don't pretend like it's a bad movie and then
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: love it so much and you love it. Not you,
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: I'm saying to people. Yeah, I'm like saying I'm saying, like,
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: it's like you, this is what you love about Jason.
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:23:23Speaker 1: It's like it's like the the misunderstanding of Joker Too,
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: where it's like, what Joker gets raped and then killed
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: and then his fucking face gets cut open by the
- 1:23:32Speaker 1: real Joker. It's like, you would love that in a
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: different movie. This is just a shitty movie.
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: Is that what happens?
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: That's apparently what happens.
- 1:23:39Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. Why would you? Was that a
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: huge spoiler? Yeah? Should we say like it's a spoiler alert?
- 1:23:44Speaker 2: Who's a fun nobody likes that movie? Oh okay, all right,
- 1:23:47Speaker 2: well spoiler alert?
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: Who cares? Everybody collectively hated Joker too? Fuoalia fualiat?
- 1:24:00Speaker 2: Okay, Jason's I don't know, okay, Yeah, how many Jasons
- 1:24:05Speaker 2: would I give? How many stars would I give the movie?
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: It's like a seven out of ten. It's just like
- 1:24:10Speaker 2: a really enjoyable experience, like maybe an eight. I don't know,
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Like I had a great title. Is it a ten
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: out of ten? Movies.
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: I just said that, do you not listen to me?
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: You're going to listen to this and be like, oh,
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: he did say.
- 1:24:21Speaker 2: I thought you probably did say those things. I I
- 1:24:24Speaker 2: I was just focusing in on the Jason's because you
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: gave it a seven out of ten.
- 1:24:28Speaker 1: Jason, seven out of ten.
- 1:24:29Speaker 2: We gave it opposite, but I would just give it
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: a ten. I would give it a ton. All turns
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: across the.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: Across the board.
- 1:24:34Speaker 2: Dude, tense for everyone.
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: He was just give it and I agree with you, Dude,
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: I would agree.
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: With you, but I'm Jason, George Jason.
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: But it's like, dude, like if I was like super
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: into Jason and I saw like a weird alien pooped
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: out and then like.
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: Crawled into the never ever happened of.
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: The sister of Jason incest Jason, and then he that.
- 1:24:56Speaker 2: Crawled into the pussy? Why would you the movie? Did
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: he not crawl in through the mouth?
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: In when he falls into the ground and the dead
- 1:25:06Speaker 1: body is of Diana is shown, it looks like he
- 1:25:09Speaker 1: the like creature is going to crawl into the pussy.
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: Okay, I didn't know they were implying that. I didn't realize.
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: I'll show you that, I'll show you the scene. But yeah,
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: it's it's uh yeah, I mean I agree with you,
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: like I would give a ten out of ten too,
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: but like I get why I need to give fans
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: of the movie the credit that they deserve in terms
- 1:25:33Speaker 1: of like why they hate a thing, No, for sure,
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: but we're evaluating it the way we like to, of course.
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: About That's the thing is like what do I like
- 1:25:44Speaker 2: most about Jason? The thing I like most about Jason
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: is Freddy And that's why I like Freddy Moore.
- 1:25:51Speaker 1: Dude. The reason we like this movie the most is
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: because it's the most Freddie Jason. It's more Freddie Jason
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: than Freddy versus Jason.
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- 1:26:55Speaker 2: you do you want to? We won't do a full
- 1:26:58Speaker 2: Freddy versus Jason episode, No, I feel like many but
- 1:27:01Speaker 2: we should watch it though.
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely we got to rewatch it.
- 1:27:04Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, s excesion