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Roman Harper talks 2026 Carolina Panthers! · C3 Panthers Podcast: Carolina Panthers

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  [UNKNOWN]: Timbers Flair and Panthers Training Camp.
• 0:04
  [UNKNOWN]: The starters make their preseason debut against the Buffalo Bills.
• 0:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And Roman Harper joins the C3 Panthers podcast to help us learn about this Panthers defense and to talk about one of the greatest moments in Panther history, the 2015 season.
• 0:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the C3 Panthers podcast, let's rock.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony Darn, and not to it, but to do it, brother, let's roll!
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  [UNKNOWN]: This Tuesday night, 9 p.m. and you're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast, we're not football experts, but we are expert football fans and the whole of fame game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: was Hall of Fame worthy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: One of the biggest watched Hall of Fame games ever and the Panthers were a part of it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Haines King was King for a moment.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We've got that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Panthers, starters are making their debut against the Buffalo Bills.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What is this defense made of?
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  [UNKNOWN]: Who I do?
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have a show in store for you tonight, Roman Harper.
• 1:37
  [UNKNOWN]: from villain to hero joining the Carolina Panthers podcast in about 12 to 15 minutes from now my name's Tony Dunn.
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  [UNKNOWN]: This is my wheel man Cody like how you doing my buddy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: My only done co-disel out in my boys is another Tuesday night and we are going to do our favorite day in the world.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And that's talk Panther football, baby.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We have
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  [UNKNOWN]: So many really awesome things to talk about.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to recap that Hall of Fame game, Luke Keith Lee being inducted into the Hall.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Man, what a moment that was, but Tony done.
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  [UNKNOWN]: You know that we're always going to do this show right alongside the best damn Panther fans.
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  [UNKNOWN]: In all of YouTube, you know I'm a level Christian Butler in the building, Brady Wise, aboard Drew Maddock, what's up Drew, Harvey London, John B. Jenkins, go fish, keep
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  [UNKNOWN]: and we are the hope dealer, dealing out that hope as he is ought to do.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Tony Don, more Panthers football is upon us and doesn't do it, but to do it brother, let's roll.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Thanks for joining the longest run in Panthers podcast out there.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Be a part of the show by participating in the chat or calling into the cat calls that 252 228 50 98 will get to your calls later in the show Roman Harper join us tonight.
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  [UNKNOWN]: We're going to have a lot of fun boy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: A lot of questions to be asked and I know CK is here for it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The man with the golden pipes boy, what a good night it is for us.
• 3:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, it's a nice night and super thrilled and grateful to have Roman being willing to grace us with this presence to talk about not only current but also the past seasons of Carolina Panthers history and a lot of these games are just the things we're going to talk about are going to be going
• 3:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, for those who have been here for as Panthers fans do the highs and the lows.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're going to be able to talk about a lot of those things.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And you're a perspective from a guy who who spent enough time in the league to know how this stuff works.
• 4:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And, and I think when he sees a good team, I think he's going to be able to stay that he sees a good team.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And so it'll be really interesting to see what his opinion and view point.
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  [UNKNOWN]: of where the Carolina Panthers are right now are going to actually fall.
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  [UNKNOWN]: That's going to be really important.
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  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm really thrilled to have them on the show, but obviously we're going to be able to have another quick react to what happened in that Hall of Fame game, which I'll be honest, boys.
• 4:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think I've ever been so excited watching a Panthers' preseason game as I did when I was watching that.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It was a great feeling and I'm not going to be mad that the Panthers are back in the
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  [UNKNOWN]: of coding like you say ain't nothing to it but to do it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Let's roll the Carolina Panthers were made their preseason debut in the Hall of Fame game this past Thursday where it went down to the wire generally is a as a hardcore what I would describe myself as a hardcore Panthers fan.
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  [UNKNOWN]: is I feel like in the first preseason game or even any preseason game you kind of like can watch three quarters of it and feel like you did your duty.
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  [UNKNOWN]: But I tell you what you watch three quarters of that game they're fighting tooth and nail back and forth both offenses are moving down the field and it comes down to a nail binder a big giant run to move the
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's delivering some dots early on and then zeroes on the clock, putting the ball in the end zone.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody's going nuts.
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  [UNKNOWN]: What has come about since then is we see it's the most tuned in to Hall of Fame game since 2017.
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  [UNKNOWN]: 7 million people watch this game talk about football fans being hungry for football, but also I think it tells you something about the quality of that preseason game that that many people watched and kept watching and 7 million people is more than any single baseball game, major league baseball game has seen numbers all strong and even more as a Carolina Hurricanes fan.
• 6:24
  [UNKNOWN]: man, they won the Stanley Cup is one of the biggest watch most viewed Stanley clubs and it even eclipse that a preseason game, the Carolina Panthers were a part of it.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I know you were watching it live.
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  [UNKNOWN]: How exciting was it?
• 6:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, let me tell you.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care what any baseball fan ever tells you Tony.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe what's upon the time baseball was America's past time.
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  [UNKNOWN]: but we already know what it is now.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It is football, it is still king.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And that's been really, it was a prime time game.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we were the only game on, we were the first real NFL action of the season.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And man, it was such a good time.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And Tony looked, there's so much that we could talk about.
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  [UNKNOWN]: but there's only one thing I really want to talk about in relation to this game and that's the boy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: The Queen City has a king and he goes by hands.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Hands king went out there and lit.
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  [UNKNOWN]: up the field in Canton, Ohio.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He showed everything.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He showed arm talent.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He showed mobility.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He showed poison to pocket.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He showed escape ability.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He read the defense well.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He was putting the ball right on the number for his receivers.
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  [UNKNOWN]: And in two minutes,
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  [UNKNOWN]: and literally grabbed victory by the balls.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He was absolutely on fire.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, literally at the very end, the tragic part, he hurt his hamstring.
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  [UNKNOWN]: on the final play of the game, so we won't be seeing him this Friday for the preseason game against the bills, but you already have Adam's chapter going on TV and saying that Haynes King is going to make the roster and that he wouldn't be surprised to produce him and to take some hill.
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  [UNKNOWN]: type of roles, uh, millions of came watch this together.
• 8:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It was such a good time to see three legioners out in the abundance in the chat.
• 8:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, Tony, I'm very excited to see what the future holds for him's king.
• 8:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's already so much talk about him being a real number two quarterback in this room.
• 8:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Even above, can you pick it?
• 8:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's some people right away that are saying he's he's a guy at number two.
• 9:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, see, I don't want to fall too much into the trap of just excitement and joy of any new shiny toy hands king, right?
• 9:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I don't want to where we're not going from King Bryce to
• 9:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Payne's King is King.
• 9:18
  [UNKNOWN]: The Ucerpur King.
• 9:19
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not trying to fall for that.
• 9:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, is I was asked on Pirate Radio, I go on Fridays on Pirate Radio, 1250 and it's like, what is, what really mattered about this game?
• 9:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Did it matter?
• 9:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And it does winning matter in the preseason, and my ultimate conclusion was this is that winning the game doesn't matter in the scheme of your season, it doesn't matter what the score is on the scoreboard, but what it does matter, it matters to players, it matters to certain players, and you know what for a guy who was undrafted, who, um,
• 9:58
  [UNKNOWN]: probably should have been drafted.
• 10:00
  [UNKNOWN]: If you look at some of the other players in the past that have been drafted, but also this season, this game did matter to players like Haines King, two players like Jimmy Horn Jr., two players like John Metchi.
• 10:17
  [UNKNOWN]: So it doesn't matter in the overall scheme, but it mattered to them and Haines King, an undrafted
• 10:23
  [UNKNOWN]: play a rookie who comes in and the one thing I will give them this is not give him this is I'm not going to over celebrate.
• 10:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to over hype.
• 10:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm happy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: I'm happy for that kid to have this moment.
• 10:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not kid.
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  [UNKNOWN]: He's a man.
• 10:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But what I was impressed with coming out the gate after Kenny Pickett took, who wasn't bad?
• 10:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Kenny Pickett wasn't bad.
• 10:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Just wasn't exciting.
• 10:48
  [UNKNOWN]: It's Kenny Pickett.
• 10:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the thing.
• 10:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Hank's king initial reaction was to not run.
• 10:54
  [UNKNOWN]: He sat in there in moments where there was space to run and he sat in there and played quarterback and he played quarterback until the moment that he needed to run late in the game.
• 11:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He did not just rely on the legs.
• 11:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He actually tried to show
• 11:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think the entire game Chris Collins worth was just talking about how, um, you know, and he was why you were expecting this guy to come out and just run the ball.
• 11:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That's all that you were thinking, because I mean, that was the thing.
• 11:30
  [UNKNOWN]: He was what four, like a four, four, five or something like that.
• 11:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, four, four, four six and had 15 touchdowns, just final season in college.
• 11:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, just an incredible, you know, an incredible resume coming into this, uh, into this situation.
• 11:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And so to be in that scenario, knowing that number one, I think most people agree that he was the odd man out.
• 11:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 11:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He wasn't a surefire thing to be the starter on this, on this team.
• 11:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so to have him do that in, in such an epic fashion dude, I'm, yeah, I mean, it's, it's hard not to be thrilled for this kid, man, he's done such a great job of, of, of, you know, in, in a, keep in mind, in the, in the same thing with Carson Beck by the way, Carson Beck looked, oh man, that was incredible, he was great.
• 12:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, these guys coming in on short notice, not knowing anything about this team or this offense or anything along those lines, they're able to, in the first week of training camp, essentially, they're able to come out and look like they're firing an all-sellenders on offense for the most part.
• 12:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I, again, I'm right there with a lot of people.
• 12:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 12:42
  [UNKNOWN]: For, I mean, outside of this, the concern about this injury, like I don't know why you would even need to keep pick it on the roster anymore, because I mean, pick it, did not anything to this team.
• 12:50
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• 13:01
  [UNKNOWN]: This injury is a ploy.
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  [UNKNOWN]: It's not a ploy, but they're going to do is put this gallon I or so you don't have to worry about this.
• 13:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You keep a roster spot open.
• 13:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't have to worry about the practice watery of this.
• 13:14
  [UNKNOWN]: You're not going to be using them at any of this time.
• 13:19
  [UNKNOWN]: If I'm going to tell you this is what you're going to look at hands king king hands in this game was great the game itself was great the views were great What was different for me?
• 13:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean you can talk about John Mechie you can talk who's the who's the other receiver that was great the Rashid rice no no Rashid um, it's that right now.
• 13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Great.
• 13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Nice.
• 13:42
  [UNKNOWN]: What's great?
• 13:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Rees touch of cash.
• 13:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Why are we like we're not even we're fumbling and bumbling here.
• 13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Rees somebody help us in the chat.
• 13:50
  [UNKNOWN]: AJ Dillon look good in this.
• 13:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You had some guys that look good.
• 13:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You know where the star this was?
• 13:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Is this offense together?
• 14:01
  [UNKNOWN]: our offensive coordinator, calling his first game, right?
• 14:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Dave can now let's look in this.
• 14:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I have not seen when I have seen past Panther, Preseason games over the last decade, they've just been ugly on offense as they're not moving the ball.
• 14:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Brad is it, this offense was efficient.
• 14:23
  [UNKNOWN]: There was space out there for these wide receivers.
• 14:27
  [UNKNOWN]: And it wasn't like every the offensive line was just given all time.
• 14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: It felt like there was, I won't say a game plan, but a cohesion to like the scheme.
• 14:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So that both of these teams, we saw so much of on the internet about how the Arizona Cardinals were treasures like their training camp, everything you see, the quarterbacks falling down, both of these teams now, I hope this is a referendum on their defenses.
• 14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But it really just felt like they knew what they were doing.
• 15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: The plays made sense at the time.
• 15:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The players were running relatively the right routes or whatever it was.
• 15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And to give credit to these guys, to just seem read or read and to matche to anybody that was out there from AJ Dillon, even to Tevis, like when they got the ball, they weren't dropping it.
• 15:29
  [UNKNOWN]: That you mean how many times the receivers look good.
• 15:32
  [UNKNOWN]: The receivers look good.
• 15:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Matches look good.
• 15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: The receiver whose name that we're forgetting was also looking for.
• 15:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not forgetting him.
• 15:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We're learning him.
• 15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Panther's good keep going.
• 15:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But, listen, I want to give also credit and I think it bolsters what kind of performance Haynes King actually had, it's not like there was a bunch of busting coverages that Haynes King was taking advantage of, like for the most part, the Cardinals played good defense, but the ball placement was exceptional from Haynes King.
• 16:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And listen, if you want to say it was good, if you want to say it, if you want to say that he's not over jumping Uh, can you pick it right now?
• 16:19
  [UNKNOWN]: That's fine.
• 16:20
  [UNKNOWN]: What is obvious is that we have a talent on our hand that we do not want to go anywhere.
• 16:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We can say I know I can for certain we are holding three quarterbacks.
• 16:33
  [UNKNOWN]: We are not going to let hands can go for another team to swoop him up.
• 16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: No, not at all.
• 16:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Hands can is going to be on this team and I don't think the story is over.
• 16:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So we know he's not going to play against the Buffalo Bills.
• 16:48
  [UNKNOWN]: But if he can get some other preseason games under his belt this year and look good and continue to build up in that direction, I really have a feeling that this is not going to be the final time that we're going to be talking about hands king.
• 17:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's an exceptional talent and I know I like a lot of other Panther fans are really excited to see what he's going to end up being and what he does for this day.
• 17:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, we talked about or we try to figure out what does a first preseason game mean or what does the preseason game preseason matter at all.
• 17:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You talk about adding an extra game with the whole of fame game and where I came out last week was is really the learned, the lessons, the value, what you can take away.
• 17:37
  [UNKNOWN]: is this coaching staff learning how to better to like operate and the team also operate in game settings, right?
• 17:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And that is Dave can now us now as shifted out of the play caller role.
• 17:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Brad is it might he can know everything about football, but are you calling the game in real time?
• 17:56
  [UNKNOWN]: How are you doing the substitutions?
• 17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not learning about individual players.
• 18:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And what their value is at all the time is that the value out of this preseason game was in the experience of being a team in the moment and I really was excited about how well Brad is it and the team overall just wasn't making a ton of mistakes and they just didn't look out of sorts though that was fun to see and we've get more to see as the starters will make their debut against the buffalo bills.
• 18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody Lashney, though.
• 18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for being not only my brother, my one of my best friends in the entire world, but tonight you got us a big get here.
• 18:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's bring in our guests.
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  [UNKNOWN]: Two time, Pro Bowl, Super Bowl Champion, an instrumental part of the Carolina Panthers 2015 run,
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  [UNKNOWN]: player initially, Roman Harper, Alabama legend, Saints legend, and Carolina Panther great and 2014 and 2015.
• 19:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Roman Harper, thank you for joining the CP paper podcast.
• 19:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Really appreciate you guys.
• 19:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to meet Cody man and Cody knows ball and I was like, dude Yeah, I love to come on He says you guys do a good job.
• 19:23
  [UNKNOWN]: How long you guys been around and I I said hey, man It's nothing but time for me, so that's good
• 19:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you.
• 19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We, uh, we consider ourselves expert football fans, not football experts.
• 19:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And we have we watched this team like you know that social media does now to every moment, every play, every day.
• 19:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We are there.
• 19:43
  [UNKNOWN]: We're here every week talking about it.
• 19:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And I got to be candid with you, Roman, is.
• 19:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, I mean, a band Panthers fan since when I got involved in being a football fan, Julius Peppers, Bailey, North Carolina's 30 minutes from where I live at.
• 20:00
  [UNKNOWN]: One of my friends played against them in high school.
• 20:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, this guy is awesome.
• 20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I watched them in college.
• 20:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, wherever he goes, I wasn't a football fan.
• 20:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's how I said, wherever he goes, I was looking for football.
• 20:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I was starting to get into it.
• 20:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And Julius Peppers drafted by the
• 20:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Boy, Chip Pep is my guy, so like I have been like, I mean, I've been like, oh, Mike Vic played in Virginia Tech.
• 20:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm an ECU grad.
• 20:27
  [UNKNOWN]: He ruined us and then he goes to the Falcon.
• 20:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I hate the Falcon.
• 20:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you, when you, I'm not, I hate the Falcon's the most, but you come to the Carolina Panthers in 2014.
• 20:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was a little, I had some trepidation.
• 20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I was a little hesitant because we go back to 2011 that play where Smitty posterizes the entire felt like Saints defense at that moment.
• 20:55
  [UNKNOWN]: That's your boy, Greer.
• 20:56
  [UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
• 20:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And then this late hit, which I thought was like, in the end zone, and then the kerfuffle that followed.
• 21:05
  [UNKNOWN]: But I got to say this is week 17, you fast forward to 2014, a pick six by Roman Harper, a pick six to get us, ultimately, our second NFC consecutive championship as
• 21:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I got over my Phil's real quick on that moment so I got to ask you what was it like to sign with Carolina inter-dividually and as was I just tell us about that moment.
• 21:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, honestly, playing for New Orleans for as long as I get in there in 2006 right after Hurricane Katrina, I was in my big fan too, so everybody likes to ask me about what it was like the first time back in the dome, that Monday night when Steve Gleeson blocked the punt.
• 21:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, I was there.
• 21:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I was on the sidelines.
• 21:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And honestly, I, I didn't understand the emotional piece that I was kind of living through at that moment.
• 22:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I was excited because I saw Michael fickle on the other side.
• 22:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, that's what I played with it mad in it.
• 22:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I grew up like, you know, watching.
• 22:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I remember from Virginia Tech as well, killing a lot of people, not just your school.
• 22:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um, and so, you know, Carolina really,
• 22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody hated Atlanta in New Orleans, Carolina wasn't like this this team that everybody felt like they had to hate on and just had another big rivalry.
• 22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It was not like that.
• 22:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a divisional game kind of like Tampa Bay at times and so um
• 22:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, that 2011 play, you know, honestly, you know, shout out Steve Smith, you know, I mean, that my guy, we're friends now, but he made a great catch.
• 22:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was guarding Greg Olson on the other field and Greg was doing his normal, like, run off thing.
• 22:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I could like, he's like, oh, he may get the ball.
• 22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, I'm cool running.
• 22:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's like, he's like, he's like, hi, me and it trying to like, I'm running with him.
• 22:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Because we were in a zero blitz.
• 22:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um,
• 22:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And then next, you know, I know great.
• 22:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I see it's like Greg is trying to just run me off.
• 23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So I turn back and I see Smitty make this great catch.
• 23:04
  [UNKNOWN]: So I start running and my mind I'm like, I'm going to catch this guy because he doesn't see me.
• 23:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was all the way across the field.
• 23:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So I ran a long way, probably 50 yards plus.
• 23:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And especially when I saw him kind of like slowing up and kind of hot dog a little bit, which I get it.
• 23:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, you make a good play.
• 23:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So I get it.
• 23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... looking back on it but in the moment like i just ran along ways and so when i got by the time i got close to you already scored and i was like i didn't run over here for nothing so i just hit him anyways and just uh and you know the best part about that whole thing was not the melee afterwards which you know that's a whole another deal because it wasn't even me like i feel back as my boy Malcolm kind of got aggressively jumped and like the cameras don't pick up all that stuff but so i hit smitty
• 23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's going to fight me because I know he's a hothead so I stood there in like kind of brace like okay I'm probably going to have to fight this guy and he just looked at me and he just hit his head and then he just walked off and I was like well long as you know it was me it's cool so why would he fight Malcolm?
• 24:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So here we go, so this is what happens.
• 24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So because the camera doesn't get this.
• 24:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So the ref throws a flag and then the next two people in the end zone, because my defense was like nowhere to be found.
• 24:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Like they were like 40 50 yards the other way.
• 24:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Like my boy Villema tells me all the times I've wrote me, this was literally the worst time to pick a fight, because none of us were down there.
• 24:27
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's like, what are you doing?
• 24:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I don't know, I just hit him, you know,
• 24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a guard, uh, with a, not with a car, um, and, uh, oh my gosh, she's another, it was, it was Jordan Gross and one of you guys is offensive guards.
• 24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, he was a black dude after getting his name.
• 24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyways, they're right there.
• 24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, yes, that's it.
• 24:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Great.
• 24:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He was pretty good.
• 24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 24:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I agree.
• 24:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Most people would know him when I tell him.
• 25:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So Jordan's in my left.
• 25:03
  [UNKNOWN]: War is on the right.
• 25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And the referee's in the middle.
• 25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, you know, trying to make sure they don't jump me or jump me or nothing keep me away.
• 25:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I knew since the referee was there, they couldn't beat me up.
• 25:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So I swung and hit the one on the right, which is the word guy.
• 25:15
  [UNKNOWN]: So I hit him.
• 25:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Boom.
• 25:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I hit him.
• 25:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And then by that time, the rep, because you can hit first, but you just can't hit second.
• 25:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So I hit, going hit that one, then they try to try to get me the rep, keeping them off me.
• 25:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Malcolm comes and tries to get joy and grows.
• 25:31
  [UNKNOWN]: By that time Brandon LaFel is running back in like pushes Mopper.
• 25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So then when Mopper goes down sideways, that's when Smitty all of a sudden jumps back in.
• 25:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And now that's when the camera zoomed back over.
• 25:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I was getting held back and then that's when everybody else came.
• 25:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So I didn't really see how bad it was on Mopper.
• 25:48
  [UNKNOWN]: My dad's see like four people on him.
• 25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So it was my fault of the best part of those honestly the next way.
• 25:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I was a feel-go block and that was before you could actually pick a road returner back for two.
• 26:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Malcolm jumped in and blocked it and then got the ball and like spiked it and looked at their sideline and we get to the sidelines and Sean Payton comes over to our bench and I'm sitting like Riverside Malcolm.
• 26:12
  [UNKNOWN]: We're kind of standing up on the bench like always do.
• 26:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, hey, you need to calm the F down.
• 26:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You're going to almost go and cost us again, because you're going to almost go and cost us a penalty right there.
• 26:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's looking at Malcolm.
• 26:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, are you talking to me?
• 26:27
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what Malcolm said.
• 26:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, yeah, Malcolm, I'm talking to you.
• 26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: You spiked that ball after you blocked the point.
• 26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: That could have cost us a lot of money.
• 26:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he was even talking to fight.
• 26:39
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
• 26:39
  [UNKNOWN]: He's like, you spiked that ball at get could have costed 15 yards.
• 26:43
  [UNKNOWN]: And my was like, Roman just hit a guy five yards in the end zone.
• 26:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And you tell him, me to come this, up down right now.
• 26:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And you said, yeah, talking to you, I don't care about that.
• 26:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was like, okay, and my mom was so mad.
• 26:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He threw his helmet.
• 26:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I apologize.
• 26:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, dude, that's all me dog.
• 26:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, my bad.
• 27:01
  [UNKNOWN]: But yeah, and the funny thing was like, my coach is being cared.
• 27:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And we won the game, which made it even better.
• 27:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what matters.
• 27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Mike Schule came up to me after the game.
• 27:12
  [UNKNOWN]: My college coach was like, Roman, why do you do that?
• 27:16
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, you know, you're such a nice guy.
• 27:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not trying to hear that bull crap right now from you.
• 27:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I was just doing me.
• 27:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And then it comes full circle because after 2013, thanks let me go.
• 27:29
  [UNKNOWN]: After eight years I come on my visit Carolinas one of the first teams to call me because I knew I wasn't going to be like one of the first guys off because I was just coming off me injury I was 30 years old going to be 30 plus and so that's not what freedom she's about at first and so and then Carolina calls.
• 27:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I go meet Sean McDermott.
• 27:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Steve Wilkes was not there at the time, and McDermott likes running through all these plays where Mike Mitchell had made the year before and saying all the things that he can see me doing, which I didn't even play that position.
• 27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I played strong.
• 28:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a strong man.
• 28:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Whatever, he wanted to show me whatever.
• 28:05
  [UNKNOWN]: and then all of a sudden, at the end of it, he showed that play where I hit Steve Smith.
• 28:10
  [UNKNOWN]: He was like, I want some of this here.
• 28:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, we don't have an edge to us like this.
• 28:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, somebody that just like, it's going, you're going to have to pay the toll if you cross our goal like, like, it doesn't matter.
• 28:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I want that type of like,
• 28:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Forosity and just like that waiting this yeah, I want that here.
• 28:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, I can do that So and I knew these guys have played really good defense.
• 28:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I was at the game where Luke had like 20 some tackles TD had like 18 year before So it would for me was a nice opportunity to be in the same division where I knew a lot of the same teams
• 28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And so that was familiarity.
• 28:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It was close to home for me.
• 28:46
  [UNKNOWN]: It was still six hours from my parents house back in Alabama.
• 28:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, um, and I was like, I would love to play on the defensive mind of team for defensive coaches.
• 28:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Just check a lot of boxes for me.
• 28:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So I was excited to be here.
• 28:59
  [UNKNOWN]: And my shoe was here at that point.
• 29:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Mike, that's not it, that was not it, but yeah.
• 29:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And then when I missed he woke, it was great.
• 29:07
  [UNKNOWN]: For fans, you know, we, because we get so emotional into this is like, we look, we, I like the divisional system because it creates these rivalries and things.
• 29:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, when we see players trading jerseys inside and we're like, we want you to, hey, each, you know, hey, like we do.
• 29:24
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's interesting to hear that, um,
• 29:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, where do we go next here because the the Panthers were in this whole fame game and we've been trying to learn what we can figure out or what what do these players go through and experience and what can we learn as fans about like a defense from what we see in this.
• 29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And now the Panthers come out have a pretty good game, but we want to talk some defense here with Roman Harper, and I think it's time to look at this.
• 29:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got you man.
• 29:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, first off Roman again, I have to thank you both for coming on.
• 29:59
  [UNKNOWN]: This is really cool.
• 30:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You know I appreciate your man.
• 30:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I also want to let you know that clip of you saying, I know ball.
• 30:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I will spread that around the internet from now until my final day.
• 30:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So thank you so much for that one too, man.
• 30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: But as a defensive player, I got to pick your brand a little bit, man.
• 30:17
  [UNKNOWN]: There are so many questions about this defensive backfield.
• 30:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And as a player, you've had the disguise.
• 30:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Coverage is taken away half of the field.
• 30:26
  [UNKNOWN]: You played at the highest level.
• 30:32
  [UNKNOWN]: specifically.
• 30:33
  [UNKNOWN]: We know that Trayvon Moring is a dog.
• 30:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He plays like a linebacker at safety, but we also have some other guys that are on the up and up and up and they're really looking to make a name for themselves.
• 30:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Laiton Ransom is a guy that we really liked, and then in the whole fam game, which you were at, so we definitely wanted to pick your brain on that regard, but uh, this is a key weekly.
• 30:55
  [UNKNOWN]: who be drafted this year also looks really good.
• 30:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So what did you make of this current crop of?
• 31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Not just safety is all broad enough to just defensive backs in general.
• 31:06
  [UNKNOWN]: What did you make of what Carolina has right now?
• 31:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And what do you think they're capable of achieving this year?
• 31:15
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a community right like coverage is is not just guys in the back and it's rush and coverage all working together hand in hand.
• 31:22
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's it's all complimentary if you want to be a really good defense because I can have a high paid corner and still sucks up in the past right like that that happened all the time and so.
• 31:34
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Morgan, morning is, I like his versatility.
• 31:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he is more of a box safety and that's fine, you know.
• 31:40
  [UNKNOWN]: But you got to, you still have to learn how to play good man-to-man coverage as well.
• 31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Especially if you're going to be playing a strong safety, you're going to be matched upon the tight end a little bit more.
• 31:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And so you have to have the ability to go and play man-to-man coverage in lower zones and be able to switch and do some other things within your line-backing court.
• 31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And the communication has to be on point.
• 32:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Your, your safety's that you're talking about.
• 32:03
  [UNKNOWN]: ransom and the other guys in the room.
• 32:05
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, ransoms a big hitter, but it's also like learning that when to take my shots and how good and effective cannot be in space because ultimately if you have more, you have one safety, somebody has to play the other one.
• 32:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And so you can't just have a whole bunch of really good.
• 32:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not mad, right?
• 32:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Where?
• 32:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I just got a whole bunch of really good strong safeties and all of a sudden in the game you can just put them over there and they're gonna perform the same Well, that's not exactly the same in real life.
• 32:31
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm just the same thing could be said about J.C. Horan who we got to see who everybody says is he gonna play nickel now If he does go play nickel, who's gonna be your third corner that's gonna be able to line up and cover guys one on one on the outside Where yeah, you know, I know a lot of real teams are now moving their wide receivers to the inside, you know, you see J.J. To more chase guys are moving around
• 32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: help who can occur with another guy they move all over the place.
• 32:56
  [UNKNOWN]: But at the same time, if that's what you do,
• 33:00
  [UNKNOWN]: then teams always find the one-on-one matchups when they try and see who and where the matchups can be created.
• 33:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I can still line up in bunch and then notice my best receiver outside of my one receiver and still get the matchup I want.
• 33:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, how these things continue to play out.
• 33:17
  [UNKNOWN]: It all looks good on paper, especially the starting 22 for Carolina the last couple of years is look good, but it's all about staying healthy and getting lucky.
• 33:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And the other thing is, you know,
• 33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: winning the division where they kind of went into winning it last year because they lost the last two games and still got in.
• 33:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, that sounds great and we get the t-shirt and everything on the Monday, but you know, I still get the hardest schedule.
• 33:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So win and where you play teams matters as well.
• 33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And so it'll be interesting to see this team has to stay healthy.
• 33:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I like the fact that all the things that you guys mentioned early with Dave Canales now just trying to be a CEO, allowing the OCUs has a really good relationship with to call the plays.
• 33:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought that part of the operation looked good in the Hall of Fame game.
• 34:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to give up 30-some points.
• 34:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Now that part, you've got to get, you know, we've got to get that.
• 34:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we've got to come on now.
• 34:09
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a lot of things you can get cleaned up, but you know, Hall of Fame game is
• 34:14
  [UNKNOWN]: it's supposed to be fun.
• 34:15
  [UNKNOWN]: It looked like guys are having fun.
• 34:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And for me, I think that all builds well.
• 34:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I appreciate those things.
• 34:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And Hank's King was kind of exactly what Hank's King was in college.
• 34:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, kind of exciting running around, making plays with his leg, good enough arm strength.
• 34:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And if you put things out there, he's been around a lot of ball where he's been in multiple systems.
• 34:34
  [UNKNOWN]: He knows how to operate an offensive.
• 34:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Sure.
• 34:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's really good for the overall first step if I was a Carolina Panthers fan.
• 34:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, I do have a follow-up real quick, so, you know, Roman, I'm a big Clemson Tiger fan, that's my team.
• 34:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And we have a big, strong athletic Clemson Tiger on this team, and Isaiah Simmons, and he was a former top 10 pick in this league.
• 34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He sort of bounced around, I feel like
• 35:01
  [UNKNOWN]: nobody really knew what to do with them early in this career.
• 35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Is there a chance that as they could carve out a real role on this team with all that athleticism?
• 35:11
  [UNKNOWN]: And what position do you imagine that being at?
• 35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Is he more of a safety?
• 35:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you see him as more of a linebacker?
• 35:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And where do you think the coaching staff sees him at all?
• 35:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, looking at his body tight,
• 35:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he plays like a lineback or so then all right is he a safety because he's in the D.B.
• 35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Room.
• 35:33
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 35:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I see him warm up with the safety.
• 35:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's where he is.
• 35:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It'll be interesting.
• 35:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Can he be the second strong safety for this team or some kind of rotational safety where he's the third safety?
• 35:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if he's earned that right you would think is a veteran that's been around a lot of balls from Arizona
• 35:51
  [UNKNOWN]: to a couple other places that hopefully he finds his way here.
• 35:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I could see a dime line-backer type immediately.
• 35:58
  [UNKNOWN]: We're third down.
• 35:59
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, he's the will linebacker we're now.
• 36:01
  [UNKNOWN]: He's able to cover against the tight in the last straw.
• 36:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Your safety is just coverage wise.
• 36:06
  [UNKNOWN]: You feel good about those matchups underneath.
• 36:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Also with some abilities to be able to pressure the quarterback and blitz, create some havoc in those ways.
• 36:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And but you know, that's got to come off system.
• 36:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not in the room with them to be able to see those things, but I see the body type.
• 36:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I've seen him at practice.
• 36:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I would imagine that would be a natural easy fit for him.
• 36:26
  [UNKNOWN]: But he's the one that has to go out there and make the place because obviously, what he's done before is not being good enough, you don't go to top 10 and bounce around.
• 36:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So like he has to figure it out himself and what does he want to be?
• 36:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Because ultimately, he's got to go out there and make those plays and time to separate himself.
• 36:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Because, um,
• 36:45
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, he's here because he's a former top 10 pit.
• 36:47
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why he's still in the lead.
• 36:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not because of all the great places, maybe it's because of that.
• 36:51
  [UNKNOWN]: So he has to figure out who this veteran Isaiah sim is going to be, and then separate from there.
• 36:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He is fighting hard on special teams and trying to take, like, hey, is like give you value even if it's not starting value.
• 37:07
  [UNKNOWN]: And then let me show you what I can do.
• 37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You talked about complimentary football.
• 37:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Can I just not to cut you off, Tony?
• 37:13
  [UNKNOWN]: No, please.
• 37:14
  [UNKNOWN]: What that means is that if I can be value on special teams, that means I'm going to make the team on special teams.
• 37:22
  [UNKNOWN]: That means I am going to be a four core guy, which means I play on all four special teams.
• 37:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I have a jersey on Sundays.
• 37:30
  [UNKNOWN]: If I have a jersey on Sundays, I don't have a jersey just to play specialties.
• 37:34
  [UNKNOWN]: At some point, I will have a package on defense because you only get 53 guys up.
• 37:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So whoever's up, I want to use them, you know, and so...
• 37:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That's another thing.
• 37:44
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it starts there, right?
• 37:47
  [UNKNOWN]: But then, if I'm getting the consistent jersey, usually some package is going to happen for me, especially if I'm making plays on special teams and being a difference maker.
• 37:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got to get this guy more action.
• 37:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So, it's ways to earn it and kind of go into what you're saying.
• 38:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, just that gives him the opportunity in those moments on defense to earn it in a way right is because if you can't earn it on special not earn it, but if you can't be on the field with the special teams component, you're not going to get the opportunity.
• 38:19
  [UNKNOWN]: to earn it later on in different moments.
• 38:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But you talked about complimentary football.
• 38:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is so important.
• 38:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You said on paper, right?
• 38:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Like we can talk about Madden and this.
• 38:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And this has been a problem for the Carolina Panthers on paper.
• 38:32
  [UNKNOWN]: The starters have been okay.
• 38:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Like you could see it work at times.
• 38:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But like one thing happens, and it's this house of cords that follows afterwards.
• 38:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And it is.
• 38:43
  [UNKNOWN]: is the safety room like does it compliment you have the box guy do you have we haven't had a range you got in forever it feels like you know and we're trying to find that but you go back to like a 20 you've played on a super ball team you played on one of the favorite moments in my life in 2015 with the Carolina Panthers and there were ways that this team complimented you had
• 39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke Keakley and Thomas Davis, but you had K1 short yet star up front.
• 39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: You had Charles Johnson and Jared out like you had these and then the back ends make him plays in these opportunities, but you also had you also had guys like to want ever to come in and give you a really good third down pressure right.
• 39:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You also come in for star then you also had Mario Addison who could come get it too out there Man he played in the league for like hey yeah 10 years.
• 39:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so you had guys that were in that second way They could still give you juice.
• 39:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You know that was Shack Thompson's rookie year.
• 39:40
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a rookie but was given us valuable minutes and then we had guys come off the street court and figured McClan robber McClan, you know Jay knows that Charles Tillman was huge
• 39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: coming in and really being a lockdown for that really made Josh Norman have to step his game look not just for game but every day in practice and coming comes in and has one of his yes I mean I think it was the best moment of yeah best kind of moments of his career tray Boston played
• 40:10
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... fantastic on this team really complimentary how do you see this if we look at one of the things i mean you look at look equally look at time i stay with you look at shot we've had this going back to john beast in a Thomas Davis like uh... damn organ and will witherspoon if you go when we look at the complimentary nature of this current panther's team
• 40:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We're trying to make some noise by bringing in Jalen Phillips at defense, you know, to get some pressure.
• 40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: You've got Derek Brown who put him at 89 and the top 100 is a travesty.
• 40:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's the most important cog I believe on this defense.
• 40:50
  [UNKNOWN]: We can celebrate J.C. court.
• 40:52
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you see the complimentary nature of this defense?
• 40:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Specifically, I want to ask you about what Devin, the wood can add to this team.
• 41:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Fans are upset about Trev and Wallace right now and like this competition say that again
• 41:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, a lot of fans are showing the all 22 film and really kind of seeing him wiffing when a lot of plays, but also the fact that Dave Canalis has now come out in his press conference and said, you know, next to Devin Lloyd, there's basically a battle for who's going to be that starter next to Devin between Trevor and Wallace and Claude and Cherylis.
• 41:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Whereas it's sort of seemed like Trevin was a little more entrenched at that position last year.
• 41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And you know, this has been a position that we have failed to really replace the production of and now Hall of Fame, Luke Keith Lee, and a consummate captain in the form of Thomas Davis.
• 41:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And you go out and get Devin Lloyd, but it seems as though the depth and the players around him,
• 42:00
  [UNKNOWN]: are not necessarily, you know, what Panther fans are are thinking is the the best right now.
• 42:06
  [UNKNOWN]: What what do you make of that and those additions, specifically all of Devon Lloyd?
• 42:15
  [UNKNOWN]: getting Devon Lloyd I thought was a huge get you know it gives you a top five top eight guys in the league at every position at all three lines, right?
• 42:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Like Jalen Phillips is supposed to be a top guy because you paid him like he was so you hope you get that out of him, but he hasn't always been healthy.
• 42:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's understand that's part of it.
• 42:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, then you get him from what he can be, not what you have to do.
• 42:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Exactly, exactly, but it also hurt, you know, our, you know, the draft pick from last year towards ACL early.
• 42:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, that, that's thanks on the opposite side.
• 42:46
  [UNKNOWN]: But, you know, like I said, injuries, injuries are going to happen.
• 42:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So, but anyways, you got, you got one up front, you got Phillips up front, that you got Lloyd in the middle.
• 42:55
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Trevann,
• 43:03
  [UNKNOWN]: They're trying to find somebody to replace you every year, you know, I'm always trying to upgrade, you know, it was like me dating in college, always on the search for talent at all times and so
• 43:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, Trevin was banged up and if he's not showing that he's helped you enough and ready to be a full-time starter, look, everybody in that building understand this pressure on them to win, you know, Dave doesn't just get to go another six in whatever or seven in nine, like that's not really good enough.
• 43:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, everybody in that building understands it, Bryce Young understands it.
• 43:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a lot of pressure on a lot of different players that everybody wants to see play better.
• 43:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And you can't win the division, no matter what you say in all of a sudden, now start to regress.
• 43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: If you regress, winning wise, then somebody usually loses a job.
• 44:00
  [UNKNOWN]: You don't get to lose and regress, and then still get to keep the same team.
• 44:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's what it's going to come down to.
• 44:06
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a lot of talking right now.
• 44:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we can't see that hurt.
• 44:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and these guys got to go out there and prove it.
• 44:11
  [UNKNOWN]: It'll be interesting to see once that happens, you know, like once the real bullet start to fly.
• 44:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We can't speak for a player, specifically, what they're going through, but you were a player, but also things have changed so much in the hyper coverage of football.
• 44:26
  [UNKNOWN]: I think about when I'm going back and I'm interviewing old players, and I'm reading just one or two newspaper clips a week to now we're watching every single thing.
• 44:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You mentioned that you're always trying to court something better, right?
• 44:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Like is you always,
• 44:43
  [UNKNOWN]: If you're a player today, do you think that pressure for some not driven Wallace, but somebody who is in this moment going through these things is does that pressure coming more from like the coaches in the reality of the situation or is that this fan or media driven pressure?
• 45:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you feel it more from you think?
• 45:06
  [UNKNOWN]: For me, I got better when I stopped looking at Twitter.
• 45:11
  [UNKNOWN]: because you don't actually win by tacking back, right?
• 45:14
  [UNKNOWN]: The best way to do this is to go out there and prove it.
• 45:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't listen to any of the outside noise.
• 45:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, pressures upon yourself, you know, but pressures also are privileged.
• 45:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You get to go play this game and you got that's how you have to try and mentally treat it You know, and it's also still very early still just Hall of Fame.
• 45:33
  [UNKNOWN]: This is just now I mean, this is what I think is these guys are looking at one single play and the free season of this I actually pushed back.
• 45:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I've been doing this podcast for 14 years Maybe when I first started I would have looked at everything we write draft guides in this I hate the draft now
• 45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't care about the draft at all.
• 45:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I want you to just tell me what players we got.
• 45:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll learn about them after they're drafted.
• 45:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want a million bazillion hours of mock drafts just like this.
• 46:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I get like, look, as I don't know about Trev and Wallace.
• 46:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't even think the footage looked that bad, but people are like, it's terrible.
• 46:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you could say, well, if you're talking terrible about him, why aren't we talking about Prince William and Mille and which I'm not bad?
• 46:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not down on, but like,
• 46:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, can we find one or two plays where he didn't do well in this game and all of a sudden so I don't think it matters as, I guess it's just like the momentum of stories does catch fire.
• 46:28
  [UNKNOWN]: But when you talk about real stories, as you were at Canton, you've played with two Hall of Fame inductees.
• 46:37
  [UNKNOWN]: You played with Luke Keakley.
• 46:39
  [UNKNOWN]: You played with Drew Breeze.
• 46:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I fought through ice and I stormed to get there, it was, it somehow got warm and wasn't terrible when we got there, I'm from Eastern North Carolina, we're not used to fighting through ice and stuff away.
• 46:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We got there, it was a greatest sporting event.
• 47:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I've got like two or three that are on my list, but it was my top, but you were at the, we heard Drew Breeze talk,
• 47:13
  [UNKNOWN]: over it, not over and over, but repeatedly about how special being at the super dumb when it opened back up after Katrina in 2006.
• 47:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You were at the super dumb in 2006 and at the NFC Championship in 2015.
• 47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not a comparison.
• 47:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not asking you for a compare.
• 47:33
  [UNKNOWN]: How does it feel to be in those
• 47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it was the greatest, and I can only imagine that the super-dom was even more at some point.
• 47:49
  [UNKNOWN]: How, like, just tell us about those moments in your life.
• 47:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Aw, we know.
• 47:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I love the 2006 moment like that's great, but like, and all honesty was actually in 2009 going to the energy championship game at home winning that game versus Minnesota on the last second kick walk on by Garrett Harley as a kicker.
• 48:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the emotions you get to tell the sudden winters who go at home.
• 48:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the crowd was so loud because, you know, I'm on defense, so the crowd is really loud when I'm out there.
• 48:20
  [UNKNOWN]: So, um,
• 48:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, the super dome is a lot of places I've ever played, especially for an indoor stadium, just being in those men, what's on the field, like, yeah, I mean, it's deafening, but you learn how to communicate two of those things for Arizona.
• 48:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Coming to Carolina you know have these mixed full of emotions because you know I played I started the game, but then Luke hit me and actually like injured me.
• 48:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay So I didn't actually finish the game and the tray played well coming in for me The rest of that game and the team just blew them out, but that was not a shock to me I knew we were gonna win the beat them like cuz Carson Palmer is exactly who Carson Palmer with you know
• 48:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to look pretty, he's going to win a high admit, but he's going to throw you to ball, like two or three times, I'm biggest things, we just got to catch it.
• 49:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And so we caught the ball, we were explosive on offense, and we were must watch TV that year.
• 49:13
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, it was interesting, I saw those things kind of build up throughout that season.
• 49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, in 2009, I was fortunate enough to be on a team that started out 13 and
• 49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: We beat both New York teams back the back weeks and week three or four then we went on a ride.
• 49:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Then around week six or seven, we went down to Miami.
• 49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: and we're down 20 something points and come back the biggest comeback in Sanctuary and we knew we were going to come back there at some points.
• 49:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the Super was going to be there.
• 49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the first time Drew was doing the like quarterbacks Nico with the top which AJ Clon should have stopped at one time.
• 49:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I told him to F and do it in my bro.
• 49:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He's about to do this.
• 49:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Just play the play.
• 49:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And he didn't do it.
• 49:55
  [UNKNOWN]: He didn't trust me, but it's fine.
• 49:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That was 2000.
• 49:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Former Panther.
• 49:58
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, he didn't trust me.
• 50:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He did not trust me.
• 50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: So anyway,
• 50:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And so going on that run, winning 13 game straight like the highs are just like incredible being in that moment.
• 50:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like there's no better place to be.
• 50:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I never thought I would have the same type of success.
• 50:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And then 2015 hit man dude, when we went out to Seattle in one after losing two Seattle on the road last year in a playoffs.
• 50:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, which we lent into the playoffs.
• 50:27
  [UNKNOWN]: We weren't a good team.
• 50:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But we won late and other teams faltered and we got in and Arizona was terrible and we beat them And then we lost the Seattle and kind of a nail buyer like we play But we just weren't good enough to win and then we went out there again and we won and like week four or five I knew this team had a chance.
• 50:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I told Steve Wilks when I got back on the bus that day I said this team started to believe
• 50:52
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, kind of like the matrix it felt different like at once we did that I knew something because I lost the last two or three games in Seattle.
• 51:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I was there for Beast Quake.
• 51:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I was there.
• 51:02
  [UNKNOWN]: You know,
• 51:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, for another time we were out there and like my 2013 my last game of New Orleans we lost the playoff game.
• 51:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we lost another one in Carolina.
• 51:11
  [UNKNOWN]: So going I knew how hard it was to win out there.
• 51:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So once we did that, I was like, okay, I lied.
• 51:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that the moment if flip for the team?
• 51:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Because as a fan, so you're talking about going 13 and oh, when you're in New Orleans,
• 51:24
  [UNKNOWN]: as a fan.
• 51:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm doing this podcast.
• 51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like our second or third year.
• 51:28
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't even know what we were in in.
• 51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like this roller coaster that was awesome.
• 51:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it was like we didn't know how cool it was.
• 51:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But there was this like this line that was like the worst undefeated team that kept and we was was there a moment or I would say a moment.
• 51:45
  [UNKNOWN]: But like when did that shift?
• 51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I don't even know.
• 51:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think for me when I realized this is freaking awesome.
• 51:52
  [UNKNOWN]: It's like
• 51:54
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, why don't you just give it and like, whoa, this is really like, I'm like now I'm talking shit Talk to shit.
• 52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So here we go.
• 52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So for me, all right, it was week four.
• 52:07
  [UNKNOWN]: We beat Seattle.
• 52:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Then another one was They came early.
• 52:13
  [UNKNOWN]: We had a good game against Phil.
• 52:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe it was Philly late.
• 52:16
  [UNKNOWN]: That might have been late.
• 52:17
  [UNKNOWN]: This coach was a tough one.
• 52:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, right.
• 52:20
  [UNKNOWN]: That was one.
• 52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 52:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I had a late tip that got picked.
• 52:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I could have picked it, but I was raining, slipped out and trust my hands.
• 52:27
  [UNKNOWN]: So I just knocked it down or hit right to lose interception game over.
• 52:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And then the other one was Dallas.
• 52:34
  [UNKNOWN]: When we went on the road,
• 52:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Somehow, now that we were undefeated and underdogs, it made no effort since, so that's what it really just fires up.
• 52:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We were ready to go about that one, and just like seeing all the young guys really grow, because in 2009, I was one of the young guys.
• 52:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 52:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I was here for for me.
• 52:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I was going to my contract here like I'm ready to try to fall.
• 52:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I go to my first pro bowl that year like so you got to have like some old guys Mixed some young guys there in Sharper was there.
• 53:00
  [UNKNOWN]: He was an older guy.
• 53:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We had some you know Dave Thomas tight in older guy We had Jeremy Shockey older guy really still playing at a high level like we had these guys That were still playing at a high level that were veterans Scott Vegeta will Smith Charles Grant.
• 53:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I can go down the line and so
• 53:18
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what we, and then in Carolina, we had Thomas Davis, Luke Keaton, we had some guys that were older but coming up was Josh Norman.
• 53:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, the name and wickery was playing really well for us.
• 53:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, bad first.
• 53:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a huge, sticky, a, a, a sticky wiki and I still, we're going to ask.
• 53:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And the, I think you're on Rivera through them under the bus.
• 53:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think.
• 53:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was messed up.
• 53:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I was not here for that.
• 53:41
  [UNKNOWN]: So, and then I would tell you just, just the last game was,
• 53:45
  [UNKNOWN]: And the last story I was just having that is, we're in the locker room.
• 53:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I think we're like seven, eight, nine, and no.
• 53:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe six, and no.
• 53:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And everybody locked us like dude, like what's the longest like anybody had started?
• 53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the longest win streak.
• 53:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And think Kirk Coleman had like six.
• 54:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Peanut told me I had like eight, which Chicago, I was just quiet sitting in the corner because I knew I had to, I had to ace of Spain.
• 54:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So I wasn't tripping.
• 54:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was like, I got 13.
• 54:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And they were like, oh, and then Cam was like, well, I want to beat that record.
• 54:16
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm, we don't beat it.
• 54:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay, well, if you do it, that means I'm going to be here.
• 54:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So I would love to do that.
• 54:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And so for us to go 14 and know the coach is starting in butt tight though.
• 54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: It was like, because the everybody started feeling the pressure with it.
• 54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So we were a team that was just winning.
• 54:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Just having fun playing loose.
• 54:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Taking pictures on the sidelines.
• 54:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Dab it.
• 54:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Dab it.
• 54:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I knew Charlotte was different.
• 54:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And I don't always say this about Charlotte.
• 54:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Charlotte had a vibe that year.
• 54:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, when I saw old lady old white lady dabbing on the jumbo trot.
• 54:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I was like, dude, this is this is just not even this is crazy Like they don't even know what dabbing originally started from which was like you hit a wax dab and you call from like
• 54:57
  [UNKNOWN]: That's how it started.
• 54:58
  [UNKNOWN]: But hey, it's fine.
• 54:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody do it.
• 55:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Have fun with it.
• 55:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody cares.
• 55:02
  [UNKNOWN]: So it was really really fun just to be a part of that and consider to be the Panthers best team all time because I want to superbowl.
• 55:09
  [UNKNOWN]: But to get us there and to win the way we did, it was fun.
• 55:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So exciting.
• 55:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Ultimately, we just came up.
• 55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 55:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Roman.
• 55:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to ask you.
• 55:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to ask you one more question.
• 55:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a let's okay, get in here.
• 55:21
  [UNKNOWN]: But about that 2015 team.
• 55:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to get conspiratorial for a moment, put on our 10-foot hats, because there was a crazy event that actually happened the next year, but I wanted to pick your brain on this.
• 55:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So people might know tiredgate at this point in 2016 and I know you spoke about this around Rivera.
• 55:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Cam Newton, uh, he, you guys are on the road in Seattle and Cam Newton forgot to wear a tie and he was benched for the first series of that game.
• 55:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I heard you, uh, you and, um, uh, uh, you and Charles Tellman, interview and Ron Rivera, and he basically said that that was his rule, that that was something that he implemented and that he wanted to treat Cam the same as everyone else.
• 56:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But then there's also another clip floating around of Thomas Davis, and Thomas Davis says that that was a day gentleman call, that gentleman was really the one that wanted that rule to be implemented in the first place, and he was the one that kind of made Ron Rivera.
• 56:33
  [UNKNOWN]: go up and and say that to camp.
• 56:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm just wondering if there's any light that you can shine on to that and give a little bit more insight from your perspective how do you solve that happening?
• 56:48
  [UNKNOWN]: The people that you bring up first and foremost, I always wore a tie.
• 56:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I do know that was a rule with Rivera that he tried to hold everybody mean like, you know, coaches were a tie bro.
• 56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: You were a tie.
• 56:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Just like I don't know what else to say or to defend.
• 57:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I have not heard that Thomas Davis clip and I would also say Thomas Davis is closer to the organization as like the mayor of Charlotte than I am.
• 57:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I just play there.
• 57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I would also say I'm a big romer verifan.
• 57:17
  [UNKNOWN]: He's honestly is pretty much always up front.
• 57:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's a former player so he gets a lot of these things.
• 57:24
  [UNKNOWN]: They've got them in somebody that I have respect for as well.
• 57:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, he brought me in as a free agent bunny enough, you know, he tried to trade for me too when he was with New York.
• 57:32
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, uh, and I didn't know that.
• 57:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I knew that.
• 57:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I heard the rumors because he was trying to trade shocky for me, uh, but instead the saying said, no, they gave him a second round kick.
• 57:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So I guess it's pretty good value.
• 57:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, so yeah, that happened.
• 57:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, I heard that rumor.
• 57:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And I never really thought her as how true it was until he got me in the office when I was by the son of the told me he said, I've been trying to get you for years and it came a little bit later than I wanted, but I got you and I was like, oh, so that trade was real.
• 58:04
  [UNKNOWN]: He was like, yeah, that was trying to make it happen.
• 58:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 58:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That was real.
• 58:08
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, oh, okay.
• 58:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I found out seven years later, but yeah, or six years later, but yeah.
• 58:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 58:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I would say that if we're very asked everybody where it's how you got to wear it.
• 58:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And so Cam can't be a blood that because the moment you if you draw a line like this is what it is and then somebody steps across that line the only way to get over it is to just find them and move on or dress like a grandma.
• 58:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Like that's about the way I love Camder and so much so like is address like a grandma address like a grandma going to those games That you I am all about it, but that's how you defeat it.
• 58:50
  [UNKNOWN]: You put Derek Anderson in and you go wait a second.
• 58:53
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't need to do this.
• 58:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's put cam in and he can dress like a grandma if it needs to be
• 58:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But Roman brought up the importance of veterans, CKU, we had, we wanted to hit on three or four nostalgic moments in CKU.
• 59:09
  [UNKNOWN]: We're looking back at that 2015 season and he really touched on it.
• 59:13
  [UNKNOWN]: So go ahead.
• 59:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Your mic is yours.
• 59:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 59:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Nice to meet you, Roman.
• 59:18
  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 59:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I had a thought, and so for the past, I would say about five years, there's been a drive on the Panthers as you probably can see, I think anybody on the outside can look and see to just get younger, and that's younger, more athletic, more explosive, whatever that may be.
• 59:38
  [UNKNOWN]: But I can't help but look at that 2015 team, or even
• 59:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, any successful season we've had as Panthers organization, and I feel like at every point that we've had success, it has been spearheaded by a large, a large presence of veteran players, and and I look at 2015 and you know Charles Tillman comes in and I think, well, he may not be playing at the level that he was when he was considered one of the best, if not the best corner back in the race.
• 1:00:12
  [UNKNOWN]: That's right.
• 1:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But he came in and he provided a spark to this team.
• 1:00:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like in the secondary and you know, I think it, you know, and I'll ask your opinion on this here in a moment.
• 1:00:22
  [UNKNOWN]: But I just think that that his, his presence, your presence, you have Jared Allen that comes in halfway through the season.
• 1:00:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You have the Charles Johnson's, you know, Mario Addison, I believe you were talking about.
• 1:00:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, just a lot of veterans on that defense, um, and, and when you think about what we're seeing from the Panthers now, now I do see their bringing some veteran presence in, but they're still a heavy focus on just young players.
• 1:00:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's anything wrong with the young players.
• 1:00:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't get me wrong.
• 1:00:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But,
• 1:00:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Where is the balance that you would find for this team?
• 1:00:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And where do you think veteran presence could help this team move forward?
• 1:01:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And be more in line with what I felt made us successful as an organization in 2015 and in previous successful years?
• 1:01:13
  [UNKNOWN]: A good question.
• 1:01:14
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, for me, and I don't know the vision that Dan and Dave were trying to build out,
• 1:01:23
  [UNKNOWN]: this year's team, like they're always looking two years, three years down the road, right, and trying to forecast out what they're going to be.
• 1:01:32
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm not into what their big vision is of where they see this whole board, right?
• 1:01:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So, but I can't speak to what it's like as a veteran player that all of a sudden shifts to a new place.
• 1:01:48
  [UNKNOWN]: And so no matter what I accomplished before,
• 1:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the old me.
• 1:01:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to make sure these guys know who I am.
• 1:01:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And it kind of like resets you and say, no, I still got something to prove.
• 1:02:01
  [UNKNOWN]: And I still want to do this and this.
• 1:02:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So it kind of resharpens the knife for you.
• 1:02:06
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think it did that would be not.
• 1:02:09
  [UNKNOWN]: It did it with me in 14.
• 1:02:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, and because you know, when you are established in your own locker room when free agents come in, they got to kind of get to know you.
• 1:02:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, they got to come get to know you in your space, my locker still in the same place, but all of a sudden you pick up and you go to a new place, you know, you kind of got to get to know who's in that locker room, because now you're the new guy and what's more comfortable to hear and what's acceptable here, and so it makes you get uncomfortable and naturally you change and you get a little bit better most time.
• 1:02:38
  [UNKNOWN]: So.
• 1:02:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, if it was a veteran place, I'll always like veteran safety's because they're really smart.
• 1:02:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only that, but they teach others how to play the game in the games a lot slower.
• 1:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Like when I was year nine, 10, 11, like the game was slow versus the first four year, the game was so fast, you know, I mean, just trying to catch a breath.
• 1:02:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, uh, safety's always a good position to start, um, as far as say a veteran guys, um, but you also got to have the right guys like in the room.
• 1:03:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not just about, oh, this guy's got a whole bunch of years on his belt, it's like a personality that go along with those guys.
• 1:03:15
  [UNKNOWN]: If I got a guy that's 12 years, but he don't talk, they ain't doing me no good.
• 1:03:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I need you to have a speak knowledge into the room, you have to get the coaches back on certain things, and also be able to push back against coaches as well, like those are healthy teams.
• 1:03:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And I would always tell all my coaches especially in Carolina because I learned that in
• 1:03:36
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, they got to have trusted all three loves, right from player to player.
• 1:03:40
  [UNKNOWN]: player to coach and coach to coach.
• 1:03:43
  [UNKNOWN]: You got to have it.
• 1:03:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody's got to be pulling this same direction.
• 1:03:46
  [UNKNOWN]: If this was not trusting what he's getting delivered, information on, these coaches you feel the, you know, this one don't like this one or, you know, this one has a different idea when this coach, when the DC comes in the room, like all that stuff is all detrimental to the team ultimately and trying to win the game.
• 1:04:02
  [UNKNOWN]: It's already hard enough.
• 1:04:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So that is where I say, where, you know,
• 1:04:08
  [UNKNOWN]: All the veterans, all like how you construct the team, like, all that's all good.
• 1:04:12
  [UNKNOWN]: But Seattle's a super young team, so it's ways to do it.
• 1:04:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It's more than one way to skin a cat.
• 1:04:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll also learn that going from Drew Breeze to Camden, isn't it?
• 1:04:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:04:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I know, Cardi, he's going to want to get the last moment.
• 1:04:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And you've been so generous with your time with us tonight, man.
• 1:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: We could, we could hang out with you.
• 1:04:30
  [UNKNOWN]: This is a big deal for us just because we're fans and we love to just be a part of this.
• 1:04:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, my go ahead.
• 1:04:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Just met Cody when I first met Cody Bro, he made him talk like 40 minutes, just like talking ball.
• 1:04:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, go ahead, sorry.
• 1:04:44
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, you have one last because I'm going to ask the, the, the silly question for the end of it interview, but then I'm going to give it the Cody.
• 1:04:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, that's a little bit um so I think I'm I'm looking at this preseason um while it may not mimic a lot of 2015 there's a lot of in you know you I would say parallels to that 2015 preseason and in one of those is the loss of Chris Brassel that is reminiscing of the loss of Kelvin Benjamin
• 1:05:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Granted, slightly different circumstances.
• 1:05:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Razzle hasn't played a single snap in Kelvin, Benjamin, came off of a thousand years, season in his rookie year, or a thousand yard season.
• 1:05:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, Kelvin looked like he was about, at least from my recollection in that season, it was talking like this dude was gonna be it.
• 1:05:36
  [UNKNOWN]: right he he was looking like he was a star in in training camp that year and then that injury happened and I think a lot of panther fans a lot of people in the media their first thought was let's write Caroline off they're not they're they lost their best receiving threat um they don't really have anything that on an offensive standpoint that's going to make you feel like they're going to be able to push any long distances right
• 1:06:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So when you have an injury like that as a player and I know it's in that moment, you're not going to say, you know, publicly, yeah, that's a loss.
• 1:06:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how we're going to recuperate, but is there a part of you that like as a player like you obviously you have to do your job that's only much so much you can do because you're on the defense, but is there that almost that.
• 1:06:25
  [UNKNOWN]: that dread of what's this season going to look like now I've got a one more I'm at the you know that part of my year you might my career where I'm looking to you know you know do something special and then that happens does that offer any I mean how do you handle something like that is a player.
• 1:06:42
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up.
• 1:06:45
  [UNKNOWN]: My wife and I were actually trying to have a kid.
• 1:06:47
  [UNKNOWN]: and uh she literally when Kelvin got hurt she called me and she was like hey all that kids stuff like we're going to have to just push that back because you guys are going to suck and i'm going to have to take that all these games because get a best why receiver just got hurt and i want i'm going to have to get drunk because you guys want to be terrible so
• 1:07:06
  [UNKNOWN]: will just put the kid making on pause.
• 1:07:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, so you guys weren't the only one.
• 1:07:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't think it was going to be that good either, but like I said though, we had older veteran guys around the Jericho country stepped up, you know, Philly Brown, all of a sudden became a really good deep threat for us.
• 1:07:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Ted Gim came alive.
• 1:07:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Ted Gim hadn't had a really solid career as a wide receiver.
• 1:07:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's best.
• 1:07:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 1:07:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And till Carolina before that, he was just known as a return guy.
• 1:07:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He's known hands as a least a column before that year.
• 1:07:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Stone and said, again.
• 1:07:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And Teddy will still drop some over his right shoulder now.
• 1:07:44
  [UNKNOWN]: That will he'll still drop it, but it don't matter.
• 1:07:47
  [UNKNOWN]: He'll keep running and we'll get him on the next one.
• 1:07:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, when somebody goes down to somebody else's opportunity, right now looks like, uh, uh, that cheese opportunity, it looks like Jimmy Horn Jr.'s opportunity.
• 1:08:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Jimmy Horn Jr. has deep speed though, right?
• 1:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: So he gives you this element of speed that other guys probably don't have down the field
• 1:08:11
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got to be consistent.
• 1:08:12
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got to catch the ball.
• 1:08:13
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought he had a good first step in start of last week.
• 1:08:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I like John Mechie as well, not just because he's the Alabama guy roll tied, but I know him and Bryce have a good connection and he's a guy that has been around the league a little bit.
• 1:08:27
  [UNKNOWN]: So, there'd be interesting to see that why we're super battle because, you know, of course you got to get already, you know,
• 1:08:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's only reading, he's still even really in the conversation.
• 1:08:37
  [UNKNOWN]: It's hopefully he's a first round pick.
• 1:08:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So you're counting on him, Ted O'Row.
• 1:08:41
  [UNKNOWN]: You got, um, uh, uh, my guy's Jalen Coker.
• 1:08:45
  [UNKNOWN]: He's really good, stepped up for him.
• 1:08:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And then you're going to have to have four, who's going to be that fourth guy?
• 1:08:51
  [UNKNOWN]: You can't count on Browser, who's going to be, that's red shirt year at this point.
• 1:08:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Red shirt year.
• 1:08:56
  [UNKNOWN]: So who's going to be that fourth guy?
• 1:08:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Not only that, but they're going to have to place the special teams.
• 1:09:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, somebody's gonna have to get a little dirty for me, too, because I can't have four or five receivers up and none of them play special teams.
• 1:09:06
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not how it works.
• 1:09:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, I want you to finish this out, but my question is I've been on a few interview committees, right?
• 1:09:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And this is my, I teach history at a community college and I tell my students about things like they should just expect in life and like when you work at a place and you go through a formal interview process, they have the same stupid question at the end is,
• 1:09:31
  [UNKNOWN]: What's the question like, do you have a question for us?
• 1:09:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But my question to you, Raymond, is if there is one thing, if you're a fan podcast like we are, right, like, and we got you for a moment.
• 1:09:44
  [UNKNOWN]: We had somebody in the chat say, was it a catch with Jericho Kotry?
• 1:09:49
  [UNKNOWN]: What is the question we need to be asking you?
• 1:09:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, what is the story that you
• 1:09:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't say don't want to tell want to tell that we haven't teased out of you, give me something that I should have asked you.
• 1:10:08
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I don't know, um, it just depends on which direction, you know, I, I don't really know if I have something that I would just like share out of whatever.
• 1:10:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, man, I, I had so much.
• 1:10:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have to be a sensational one, but did you have to catch it?
• 1:10:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Did there, there's something that you haven't dinner with me?
• 1:10:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:10:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's camera an artist paying good.
• 1:10:31
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what I wanted.
• 1:10:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I have a big camera out of this pain film.
• 1:10:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know why he didn't make any sense.
• 1:10:39
  [UNKNOWN]: He did make some good creases and games, bro.
• 1:10:41
  [UNKNOWN]: He did.
• 1:10:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, look, look, I have so many quarterback memories from, you know, Sean Payton was bringing a quarterback to replace Drew or be the backup, right?
• 1:10:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw that shit for 12 years, right?
• 1:10:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And like you just fall in love with some guys that are creases and warriors.
• 1:10:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Cat was one and he couldn't stay healthy
• 1:11:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, I don't know if there is one that I would say that like, you know, the the Panthers podcast that you guys are missing, I guess it would be, you know, you know, should they have kept the grass?
• 1:11:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Caroline had the best grass and maybe an NFL at one point in time.
• 1:11:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh man.
• 1:11:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's going to be interesting because that's becoming
• 1:11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: 18th game or anything like that.
• 1:11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The artificial turf may have to go.
• 1:11:35
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's on the player's minds and that whole report card thing that the owners are now kind of blocking.
• 1:11:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But to the public is a really good information to them.
• 1:11:47
  [UNKNOWN]: I get to interview other guys around the league.
• 1:11:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's amazing to hear the stories.
• 1:11:52
  [UNKNOWN]: And anytime you can get an intimate story of like you would not hear outside of anything else, man.
• 1:11:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's always the best.
• 1:11:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, for me, I, I would think I had some of the best times in that locker room.
• 1:12:05
  [UNKNOWN]: from the little segway race we do in the locker room that happened to also three 15 Fridays that was a personal thing for me so I started doing three 15 Fridays I like to lift my heaven's day on frost like this flex Friday.
• 1:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes for me.
• 1:12:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I call it three 15 Friday I used to get smoked so it's mostly just all upper body.
• 1:12:28
  [UNKNOWN]: I do my lower body early in the week
• 1:12:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And then Friday, I want to be on freaky and slow because Saturday, I'm still going to have a little blood in there and someday it's like ready to go.
• 1:12:38
  [UNKNOWN]: And so my big thing was, you know, everybody said you can't arm tackle, but they ain't seeing me yet, you know what I mean?
• 1:12:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Like that's my word.
• 1:12:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So, so I would for each week of the season, I would try and bench press 315 pounds that many times.
• 1:12:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So I would never be able to get all of them.
• 1:12:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I got what eight or nine in in Carolina.
• 1:13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: After 15.
• 1:13:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's that's like big boy rep. Yeah.
• 1:13:05
  [UNKNOWN]: And so like that was big for me.
• 1:13:08
  [UNKNOWN]: And then after that, I would do 100 reps.
• 1:13:14
  [UNKNOWN]: of 135, you got two sets, or sometimes three sets to get 100 pushes, then we do 100 pools with some bands, and then I would do six, six, six buys and six tries.
• 1:13:30
  [UNKNOWN]: exercise and we run the racks or do whatever.
• 1:13:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And bro, I'm not hurt on Sunday because I'm 40.
• 1:13:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Now I'm 44.
• 1:13:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm 44 years old.
• 1:13:41
  [UNKNOWN]: And but I have I've been trying to exercise over the last five years.
• 1:13:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm in better shape of my life.
• 1:13:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I did 10 sets of 10 like we had a weight day.
• 1:13:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Me and my boy we did 10 sets of 10 at 145.
• 1:13:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, like, I mean, that's, I mean, 10 cents a 10, you wait a, you know, you get the, what is it?
• 1:14:01
  [UNKNOWN]: The ATP or whatever that crap, it, like, give it a couple of minutes to come back and then you're back at it and you know, I feel kind of wrecked for two days is like, how do you walk out?
• 1:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm sorry.
• 1:14:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't mean to ask this like a triple question, but you were like, you just did a super set.
• 1:14:20
  [UNKNOWN]: of three 15 then you did a hundred reps. What you said three of 30, three of 35, and how are we going to not?
• 1:14:29
  [UNKNOWN]: You have a yes on Sunday.
• 1:14:31
  [UNKNOWN]: 100 reps. How are you getting them?
• 1:14:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Just however you get them.
• 1:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:14:36
  [UNKNOWN]: So 10 sets of 10.
• 1:14:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, I can fit in, Cody.
• 1:14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:14:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Same same.
• 1:14:42
  [UNKNOWN]: You're wrong.
• 1:14:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Same same.
• 1:14:50
  [UNKNOWN]: still a passive man.
• 1:14:52
  [UNKNOWN]: So you got two sets to get 50 and then from there you know you try and get 35 Get close to 40 then you only got nine and your arms are fucking done and then from there you do some pools to kind of offset because you don't want everything going forward and then and then from there we we do our we run the arms buys and tries bro and the only rule I have was no sleeves
• 1:15:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, you can't wear sleeves in the weight room.
• 1:15:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And big house, he respected me.
• 1:15:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And he let me have the weight room on Fridays.
• 1:15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And that was like my rule.
• 1:15:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, I was the one that was always big lifting on Fridays.
• 1:15:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Other guys, you know, and then I collected a group.
• 1:15:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I got some young guys.
• 1:15:32
  [UNKNOWN]: I got blue young.
• 1:15:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I got Dean Marlow in there.
• 1:15:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I got Colin Jones, cream Jones, my boy.
• 1:15:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I got, you know, who else is in there?
• 1:15:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Jay No came in there a little bit, but he can do the bench.
• 1:15:44
  [UNKNOWN]: AJ Klein.
• 1:15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We had a lot of news in there getting after it like we it was like 12 feet and we would we would throw up a lot of weight Bro, we would get out Friday was a big day and I think those are bonds and stuff right there that you make in times that like man like it was fun
• 1:16:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, Roman, man, we appreciate you so much for your time.
• 1:16:06
  [UNKNOWN]: This has been incredible.
• 1:16:07
  [UNKNOWN]: This is going to be my final question for you tonight.
• 1:16:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And so as you alluded to, you and I spoke in person.
• 1:16:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was incredible, man.
• 1:16:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I just love talking ball with you.
• 1:16:18
  [UNKNOWN]: You have a football brain.
• 1:16:20
  [UNKNOWN]: And I love people when they have a football brain that they can talk about the ins and outs.
• 1:16:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And one of the things that we spoke about,
• 1:16:28
  [UNKNOWN]: was this defense and Carolina running this 34 defense and it's been something that they've been trying to implement for a while.
• 1:16:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Some fans love it.
• 1:16:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Some fans are still not sold.
• 1:16:41
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you think ultimately is going to come of this zero very defense?
• 1:16:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you like the way they're moving?
• 1:16:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you think that the pieces that they've added are finally going to be The right pieces for them to actually run this defense like a barrel has imagined it and What do you prefer?
• 1:17:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you a four-three guy?
• 1:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you a three-four?
• 1:17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I know a lot of teams
• 1:17:07
  [UNKNOWN]: primarily play a lot of nickel anyway.
• 1:17:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But if I'm asking Roman Harper or the Panthers and the right defensive formation and what changes do we need to make if any at all?
• 1:17:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Brown in a 4 3 attacking has a 3 technique right because he was so great at it in college right he destroyed people at all.
• 1:17:29
  [UNKNOWN]: But so now they got him out of 5 technique which means he's just
• 1:17:36
  [UNKNOWN]: uh, in a three four, but all these things go to four threes or four, two, whatever, on third down past the situations or second and long.
• 1:17:47
  [UNKNOWN]: So you're going to get a flavor of it all.
• 1:17:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think bringing in the nose tackle from Texas Tech in the big boy.
• 1:17:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Leo.
• 1:17:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Flex it.
• 1:17:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I, you draft him in the second round.
• 1:17:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He's got to start for you and be an impact player.
• 1:18:03
  [UNKNOWN]: If he's the impact player used to imagine him being the big one to anchor in the front, then everything else can be can be gravey after that.
• 1:18:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Because the run of three, four, dude, you've got to have, you've got to have a nose guard that's a problem.
• 1:18:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you've got to have them.
• 1:18:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Like the big boys up front, those two and through those guys that are you going to ask the two gap, they have to eat up space and allow those linebackers to be front side to back side cut back.
• 1:18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, they're going to show front side and then they're going fall back and be back side because, you know, the big diet, D-Limerick going to stay front side of it and kind of show boom and then if they want to tear off late.
• 1:18:42
  [UNKNOWN]: your linebackers have to know where to feel and you want to keep bodies off those guys.
• 1:18:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And so if you want to have these big boys out front then I think you got a better chance of it, but for me, Cody honestly, I told you I like big brown as an attacking three technique.
• 1:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And hopefully everybody threw that in pastoral situations, but it's interesting because when he's so good,
• 1:19:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And out of three four, you're not asked to penetrate as much, sometimes you are when you're in attacking and you're blitzing, but of most base three fours, it's a two gap situation.
• 1:19:12
  [UNKNOWN]: So you're catching and you're two gaping, which means I got to go A or front side or back side.
• 1:19:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, and sometimes you got to just be able to extend its show and you're not really attacking or penetrating.
• 1:19:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And you don't get as many tackles for losses as would you do when run throughs.
• 1:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, guys in the second level just running through the line and, you know, they know what gap through it.
• 1:19:36
  [UNKNOWN]: And a four three is kind of gaped out just based upon where your line would are because guys are in their space with the three four, you know, it can move a little bit different.
• 1:19:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's so pointing, you know, I've been a fan of that.
• 1:19:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I wanted to put Derek Brown in more past Western situations for a long time.
• 1:19:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And I really am hoping that that they find the way to continue to do that.
• 1:20:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Rome, I want to again, thank you so much for your time.
• 1:20:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Is there anything that you're a part of that you would like to shout out and call the
• 1:20:18
  [UNKNOWN]: with Peanut Tellman, which I love, by the way, just in preparing for this interview, I was listening to a lot of it.
• 1:20:25
  [UNKNOWN]: You and him have a great dynamic, by the way, we all love Peanut, that peanut punch forever lives in the heart of Panthers fans everywhere, but yeah, I just wanted to give you this opportunity to shout out anything that you wish to shout out, man.
• 1:20:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, man, first and foremost, thanks for having me.
• 1:20:46
  [UNKNOWN]: You're a guy that I met and you're a light yourself.
• 1:20:49
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was awesome just to sit down and talk and call because you're a big ball guy.
• 1:20:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I can talk to anybody that loves ball.
• 1:20:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And so it was really, really interesting.
• 1:20:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And I was thankful for you, you know, continue to remind me of this.
• 1:21:03
  [UNKNOWN]: And so I can make it and get on my schedule.
• 1:21:05
  [UNKNOWN]: So thank you guys all for having me, Tony, and QC.
• 1:21:08
  [UNKNOWN]: So
• 1:21:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I tore up myself though, man, I'm a dad, so shout out my family, my kids.
• 1:21:14
  [UNKNOWN]: They're at the beach right now.
• 1:21:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And, but my man, Peanut Tilman and I, we have a podcast called The NFL Player Second Acts Podcasts.
• 1:21:22
  [UNKNOWN]: You can pick it up on Spotify, YouTube, wherever you want to.
• 1:21:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Apple TV anywhere else you pick up your podcasts go check us out.
• 1:21:32
  [UNKNOWN]: We got we just did a whole bunch of all the famous as fast we can can.
• 1:21:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It was great.
• 1:21:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We got all kinds of guys and we've been doing the last three or four years.
• 1:21:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It's been an awesome experience for me, honestly, to meet some of my heroes and to be able to shake hands and just man, this this football fraternity bro is so small and man, if you made it for one year, 12 years, 18 years, 24 years like Morton Anderson, the kicker,
• 1:21:57
  [UNKNOWN]: you are legend because you made it.
• 1:22:00
  [UNKNOWN]: And so that's important.
• 1:22:02
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to make sure we try and tell all these guys stories, man, because everybody comes from different walks of life, different traumas, different backgrounds, and that transition out of football is so important.
• 1:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It's called the second X podcast, because that's what we're featuring, all these guys on their second X.
• 1:22:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Because it happened to us all at some point we all got it we get told to take that ball and go home Whether you're in your high school college or for us professionally at some point and so We're telling a lot of those stories and walking people through those journeys.
• 1:22:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It's been great I'm also an Instagram at heart 41 You can look me up.
• 1:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm on Twitter as well or at whatever you want to call it and I have a foundation called a heart for soap 41 You can check that out too
• 1:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Harper Harper's Hope 41.org.
• 1:22:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, man.
• 1:22:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty busy just with the kids.
• 1:22:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I got four of them two gross two boys beautiful wife Yeah, man life life's good, man.
• 1:22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm blessed honestly That's awesome, man.
• 1:23:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I can thank you so much for TV Anybody done?
• 1:23:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I work on the SEC network ESPN
• 1:23:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I work for the mouse.
• 1:23:07
  [UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I'm part of that.
• 1:23:09
  [UNKNOWN]: And I do a show called SEC Nation on Saturdays from 9 to 12 Eastern.
• 1:23:16
  [UNKNOWN]: We go to the biggest and best games throughout the SEC as like college games day before the SEC.
• 1:23:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I also host a show with Cole Cueblink, my co-hosts on SEC Network Monday night at 17 p.m. Eastern at before Monday night football kicks off and it's called
• 1:23:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh, reenreact.
• 1:23:35
  [UNKNOWN]: And we literally are recapping everything from the weekend before that was and we're out of soul forecasting for what the weekend that will be coming up in the S&C.
• 1:23:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's awesome.
• 1:23:46
  [UNKNOWN]: So by the way, Tony's internet dropped out.
• 1:23:48
  [UNKNOWN]: That's why it's no longer on the show as internet died on him.
• 1:23:52
  [UNKNOWN]: He did, it happens.
• 1:23:55
  [UNKNOWN]: It happens, but he didn't want me to ask, we've taught a little bit, do Alabama players when they NFL, when they're doing the top 100?
• 1:24:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Do they make it a point to vote for other Alabama players?
• 1:24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that a thing?
• 1:24:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Is the brotherhood that strong, roll tied?
• 1:24:15
  [UNKNOWN]: We're voting the man.
• 1:24:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But in Tony, I would hope damn sure they did.
• 1:24:23
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:24:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:24:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I hate to tell you this, though.
• 1:24:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I never voted on that top 100.
• 1:24:30
  [UNKNOWN]: I have no idea who votes.
• 1:24:32
  [UNKNOWN]: They say it's the players.
• 1:24:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I never voted.
• 1:24:34
  [UNKNOWN]: So I can't speak on it.
• 1:24:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, awesome.
• 1:24:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Roman, thank you so much for asking me that.
• 1:24:43
  [UNKNOWN]: That should be your kid, full-hat thing.
• 1:24:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That.
• 1:24:45
  [UNKNOWN]: That's mine.
• 1:24:48
  [UNKNOWN]: That son is a crazy Georgia fan.
• 1:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: His grandparents went there.
• 1:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's like, oh, they went to Alabama.
• 1:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: They went to this.
• 1:24:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And I said, dang, maybe that's the deciding factor.
• 1:25:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And now I feel like it might be swam into another team.
• 1:25:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, no, man, you never know.
• 1:25:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't deny it.
• 1:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: How about that?
• 1:25:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, parents of a feather flock together, right?
• 1:25:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:25:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Roman, I can appreciate you so much.
• 1:25:19
  [UNKNOWN]: We look forward to maybe doing this again at some point in the future.
• 1:25:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe as the season grows a little bit longer in the tooth.
• 1:25:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much for being here and see three nations, Roman Harper, where you appreciate your Roman.
• 1:25:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much, man.
• 1:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Have a good night.
• 1:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Have a good night.
• 1:25:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much, Trump.
• 1:25:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, man, I, of course, every moment when things are getting good, my computer restarts.
• 1:25:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I had to restart a whole computer.
• 1:25:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 1:25:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I got one thing, and I didn't get it.
• 1:25:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, of course, we can't ask him everything, right?
• 1:25:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It was good.
• 1:25:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He can't have a silver ground.
• 1:25:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Talk about it was not a catch.
• 1:26:03
  [UNKNOWN]: No, but he doesn't have to say that because we already know that it was a catch, but that wasn't on his mind, but I do.
• 1:26:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I have homework for you because you are the connect on this.
• 1:26:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I just feel like sometimes players need to see how much fans or fans of certain players.
• 1:26:33
  [UNKNOWN]: because I think he was on 2014.
• 1:26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: I think was when Jason Avant.
• 1:26:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Do you remember the guy that did the Jason Avant?
• 1:26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to catch the ball a lot.
• 1:26:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So like I feel like you just just say, Roman, do you know that people out here?
• 1:26:49
  [UNKNOWN]: on the streets, making music about y'all, about have you heard the jacin of onsite, I don't think it was like, I know that he said cameras, camin artist fame was a preseason warrior as we described him as, I thought.
• 1:27:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, and you know, now that, uh,
• 1:27:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Now that we know Rome, we have that connect, there's definitely a future where we can get trade Boston on here and talk a little bit about some Panther football, maybe even peanut, but do Roman so awesome, like I told you guys, I work with the Friends Foundation.
• 1:27:28
  [UNKNOWN]: That's how I got to meet Roman Harper, a good friend of mine, is very good friends with Roman, and that's how we were introduced.
• 1:27:36
  [UNKNOWN]: and it's just awesome man.
• 1:27:37
  [UNKNOWN]: He's really awesome.
• 1:27:38
  [UNKNOWN]: We love Roman.
• 1:27:40
  [UNKNOWN]: He was such a big part of that 2015 team.
• 1:27:43
  [UNKNOWN]: So it was really cool and really special to be able to interview him, uh, telling you, you answered, okay, had great questions.
• 1:27:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, chat.
• 1:27:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We hope you enjoyed that man.
• 1:27:53
  [UNKNOWN]: That was, that was really cool.
• 1:27:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope y'all enjoyed it.
• 1:27:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, we didn't take it anymore.
• 1:27:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're going to get more, we have some other cool things that we're going to be doing in the very very near future.
• 1:28:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, shout out to Roman.
• 1:28:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That was, that was great, man.
• 1:28:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, I think what I, when I took from that, the most.
• 1:28:15
  [UNKNOWN]: is just as you grow older and have more confidence that games slows down for you and that's when you see the best of these players.
• 1:28:26
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that Roman kind of hinted in alluded to that too.
• 1:28:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm hoping that this season is going to be the culmination of a lot of the things that Roman was talking about with this entire team just putting pieces together.
• 1:28:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And I think that was what I kind of took away from that.
• 1:28:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it may be in part of special moments.
• 1:28:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not even, it's not like a nostalgia special moment.
• 1:28:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it wasn't, like he was like, this is it was, I felt like you could get a sense that his career was changing and evolving.
• 1:29:03
  [UNKNOWN]: He had been with a Super Bowl team.
• 1:29:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, they released me.
• 1:29:10
  [UNKNOWN]: right um taught it felt like you I won't say it felt like you got a perspective of he's looking at it not not me he is looking at it game the game week the week played a play rap to rap and things like this but also it was it looking back and it's like where am I at my career where am where is this and like what is it how's it fit?
• 1:29:38
  [UNKNOWN]: It was incredibly fun, number one.
• 1:29:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:29:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And thank you for Brownman for being so generous with your time.
• 1:29:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We're here with you.
• 1:29:48
  [UNKNOWN]: We're here with you.
• 1:29:50
  [UNKNOWN]: But also, dude, stream your hard.
• 1:29:52
  [UNKNOWN]: We're starting.
• 1:29:53
  [UNKNOWN]: stream yard is trying to make me look stupid tonight because anytime I clicked on another comment or with a look at the virus chat with you back in school it was hey that was not me man every time I would click on anything else in the stream yard it would change the camera of you I don't know that was
• 1:30:16
  [UNKNOWN]: kind of crazy, but um, we got interview Joe Webb, like this is actually what I want.
• 1:30:23
  [UNKNOWN]: I want Cameron or this pain.
• 1:30:26
  [UNKNOWN]: We've had, I have been a been wickery early on, sticky wiki, like back in the day, like I don't want, I mean, I want trade, but I would love to get and not an inside view.
• 1:30:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want, I didn't want when I asked him, like, what's the question I didn't ask you?
• 1:30:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't want some
• 1:30:45
  [UNKNOWN]: like, oh, here's something that's going to splash and make it.
• 1:30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just like,
• 1:30:52
  [UNKNOWN]: What's something cool that I didn't think about because I wasn't there or I'm not a pro or not something that was controversial in a sense, but just like what are we actually just missing as being fans just like did
• 1:31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: that we should I mean we could we'll ask these questions in the future.
• 1:31:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Well hey let's just say we might have another opportunity to ask him some questions in the near future.
• 1:31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We want to show our hand on that one, but
• 1:31:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, see the guys some irons in the fire boys we got some cool shit right around the corner Yeah, no, it's gonna be fun.
• 1:31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell you why don't jump into the show.
• 1:31:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I want lights here.
• 1:31:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's let's freight them that we've kind of covered a good bit.
• 1:31:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, you want to take some calls.
• 1:31:55
  [UNKNOWN]: No, let's do one topic
• 1:31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Then we'll take those.
• 1:31:58
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:31:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, no, well, we talked about it in the in the show with Devon Lloyd making the top 100.
• 1:32:08
  [UNKNOWN]: He ranks number 27.
• 1:32:10
  [UNKNOWN]: So hey, there he may not have made that ranking while he was with the Panthers.
• 1:32:16
  [UNKNOWN]: but he is a Panther and we're counting this man as our own, you know, again, this was sort of another discussion about Trevor Wallace and the Lion Backing Corps, but how important is Devon Lloyd to this team right now at this moment?
• 1:32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna let you guys talk and do your cover me for a second.
• 1:32:39
  [UNKNOWN]: The CK, this is, I'm very, like I like Devon Lloyd, right?
• 1:32:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I actually like, I almost say more as a person, but like as like we've heard him speak, we've seen his role in the team.
• 1:32:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know how much
• 1:32:56
  [UNKNOWN]: that picks six against whatever it was.
• 1:32:59
  [UNKNOWN]: He's injects a bill and it was a pick six against my homes that went nuts on the internet.
• 1:33:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know when I looked at the tape is like, I mean, like, hey, upgrade upgrade.
• 1:33:10
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:33:11
  [UNKNOWN]: But to me, the upgrade was, I would say upgrade, but like
• 1:33:19
  [UNKNOWN]: leadership, the qualities, what Roman Harper was talking about.
• 1:33:24
  [UNKNOWN]: This is not just about having a vet.
• 1:33:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a type of vet the way he speaks.
• 1:33:29
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not talking about like he's just well-spoken, but it's the confidence, it's the presence, it's the commitment.
• 1:33:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It's all of these things.
• 1:33:37
  [UNKNOWN]: That's where I've been most excited about them.
• 1:33:41
  [UNKNOWN]: But I saw this today, and I thought
• 1:33:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and this is going to sound like a knock to him, but like 27 and not him being 27.
• 1:33:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I just go back and go, Derek Brown.
• 1:33:56
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no.
• 1:33:57
  [UNKNOWN]: He's 80 fucking Stein or whatever.
• 1:34:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I just went back to that.
• 1:34:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want Devin Lloyd to be lower on the list, but I thought this is insane, not insane, but I thought it was about optics as about, and again, I'm pleased, Dev, and if you're listening, not listening, but I'm not talking down like the position is more optic.
• 1:34:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, is like if you're a corner, if you're a lineback or if you're a quarter back, I just feel like I just went immediately.
• 1:34:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Derrick Brown needs to be high on the list.
• 1:34:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think that is, I don't even know that that's controversial.
• 1:34:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that anybody who's looking at that list and, you know, I think you could probably pick out a significant number of those people ahead of them and say Derek Brown should be ahead of them.
• 1:34:50
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm not even saying that it means that Derek Brown should be ahead of the Devon Lloyd, but they should at least be within the same range.
• 1:34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: No, we don't have to tear one down.
• 1:35:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't need Devon Lloyd to be lower on the list.
• 1:35:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:35:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Like I just like we don't have to crab in a bucket it, but I just thought, I mean, again, it goes back to this is these poor guys that are playing.
• 1:35:14
  [UNKNOWN]: running back, guard, linebacker, safety.
• 1:35:19
  [UNKNOWN]: They just don't get, I mean, just look at the money, follow the money.
• 1:35:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, is the greatest players you've celebrated in Carolina's history aren't the most paid players.
• 1:35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: a lot of times, and that was about, and I felt bad about it.
• 1:35:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, ten and only two and a half.
• 1:35:39
  [UNKNOWN]: But then I'm like, hell, yeah, I hope he is.
• 1:35:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And then I was kind of surprised.
• 1:35:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't say surprise, but I was mad at myself for us going, who else is on the top 100?
• 1:35:53
  [UNKNOWN]: You remember we had this conversation is like, is who else is going to be up there?
• 1:36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't say it.
• 1:36:04
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, I think I didn't expect Devon Lloyd to be up there.
• 1:36:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll be honest.
• 1:36:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's that he is.
• 1:36:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it does make sense.
• 1:36:15
  [UNKNOWN]: I just why we just didn't remember it.
• 1:36:18
  [UNKNOWN]: We missed it.
• 1:36:18
  [UNKNOWN]: It's because we're not, we were thinking about Panthers players last year.
• 1:36:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:36:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:36:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And so without looking at it as that, because right now, they're voting on
• 1:36:29
  [UNKNOWN]: who they think the top 200 players are going into 2,000 and 26.
• 1:36:33
  [UNKNOWN]: So it's relevant to us as Panthers fans, but because we're really well versed in what happened in last year, we almost are looking at this as just a basis of what happened last year.
• 1:36:46
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's that's probably why that came up.
• 1:36:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I think I'm still shocked, I mean,
• 1:36:52
  [UNKNOWN]: that Michael Jackson, Mike Jack didn't make it on this list of the top 100 assuming that somebody hasn't, they didn't decide to put him up here in the top 20 or something crazy, which we all know is not the case.
• 1:37:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Dude, okay, do you know PFF had Mike Jack rated as their 28th overall starting corner?
• 1:37:10
  [UNKNOWN]: if it's such a joke for that.
• 1:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's so disrespectful, um, I don't want to win.
• 1:37:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I always say this is the best.
• 1:37:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the best Panthers are slept on Panthers.
• 1:37:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I'd love the Panthers and not getting enough credit.
• 1:37:28
  [UNKNOWN]: They're not getting enough do.
• 1:37:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and I feel like a lot of our guys have a reason to feel disrespected for a lot of reasons.
• 1:37:37
  [UNKNOWN]: That's that bulletin board material.
• 1:37:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:37:39
  [UNKNOWN]: And I hope that carry that with them into this season for sure.
• 1:37:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I know this is going to be a unpopular.
• 1:37:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm a big Mike Jackson fan too.
• 1:37:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Like, I mean, I've been stomping for this guy since day one.
• 1:37:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he is a sound rude.
• 1:37:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the same way I feel about Coker is like there are going to be a good too, a very good too, like is, but you don't necessarily go out and build your team.
• 1:38:14
  [UNKNOWN]: around them, right, and like, and I'm, and that sounds like an, and so it really truly does, and I'm sorry, Mike, I'm not, I don't mean that you're not, I think you're way higher than 28, but I think you are, uh, look, what the fuck do I know?
• 1:38:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't play football, I just watch it,
• 1:38:42
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't want to sacrifice the entire team at the behest of a number two.
• 1:38:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I remember we were talking about whether or not we should pay him because he's a free agent after this year.
• 1:38:56
  [UNKNOWN]: And he's been really good for us.
• 1:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: And if he has another big time near this year, it could place this way out of Carolina.
• 1:39:03
  [UNKNOWN]: He's already talking about it.
• 1:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:39:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, like, and not that good for him, I hope he does.
• 1:39:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he was the number one though.
• 1:39:14
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a much more probably bigger profile player, not just, well, my jacks are really similar.
• 1:39:23
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, he's not a big talker.
• 1:39:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He's not a big, uh, you know, the woman was just called the same though.
• 1:39:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe not in personality, though.
• 1:39:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Like him and he went out there and made plays and did shit that was great and deserved to be on the field, deserved to be paid.
• 1:39:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This and that, but is like, are we going to talk about him in the same light of a guy?
• 1:39:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, that you build a like, um, who's the guy that went from the jets to the Patriots to the Tampa Bay, like, I mean, they're not Hall of Famers in the sense.
• 1:40:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I think Tray Boston is a good example of this, and I'm not trying to, again, is I think Tray Boston is a very, very good player when, and he's really better when he's on a better team.
• 1:40:16
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:40:17
  [UNKNOWN]: And, and Roman talked about this a little bit is, um, it doesn't matter like how good you are as if the other guys aren't around you aren't good.
• 1:40:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Doesn't matter.
• 1:40:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I think Mike Jackson is a great player, and we need to keep him on a good team together, but the problem is is when you've got to put up the box.
• 1:40:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Where do you put it at?
• 1:40:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you going to give him JC or money?
• 1:40:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm going to be you have to pay the corners you have to pay them.
• 1:40:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, when you have the corners of that talent level, it's been just as good, though.
• 1:41:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Um.
• 1:41:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was still about to have to see horns in my jacks.
• 1:41:09
  [UNKNOWN]: See, that's the thing.
• 1:41:11
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the thing, and I don't want to blow up as a higher, has a higher talent level.
• 1:41:16
  [UNKNOWN]: How about this?
• 1:41:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Instead of doing the either-or-pitting them against each other, right now, I legit think that you can make a case that the Panthers have one of if not the best corner tandem.
• 1:41:29
  [UNKNOWN]: in the NFL between Mike Jack and Jason Holmes.
• 1:41:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I won't go that far.
• 1:41:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I just would say they have a good.
• 1:41:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you tell me what's in there?
• 1:41:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 1:41:40
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, I like, look, you're putting, I'm not saying, like, I don't want to quote, like, what is it?
• 1:41:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Quantitative that is, I just know is that both it, like, they're good to, they're good players together.
• 1:41:53
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm not going to say either that
• 1:41:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think J.C. Horn has done more than Mike Jack.
• 1:42:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that he should get, not get paid.
• 1:42:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that.
• 1:42:06
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's been drafted higher.
• 1:42:07
  [UNKNOWN]: He got like, I don't think they made a poor decision, but I don't think like in the reality of life, he's actually done that much more.
• 1:42:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we had, I saw a tweet, see K, just coming up,
• 1:42:25
  [UNKNOWN]: J.C. Horn's tape was the best in the league.
• 1:42:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And now I was thinking, man, C.K.
• 1:42:31
  [UNKNOWN]: told me it wasn't.
• 1:42:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm just saying like we saw a lot of a lot of big mistakes by J.C. Horn and we also saw a lot of those same mistakes.
• 1:42:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, we I think when things turned for Mike Jack for us was that moment
• 1:42:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're towards the end, J.C. Horn was asking, put me on him, you know, and Mike Jackson just do what's best for the team.
• 1:43:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:43:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, and, uh, yeah, first.
• 1:43:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, first pickings with George Piggins.
• 1:43:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That's me.
• 1:43:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he might be right.
• 1:43:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and ever since that game, the dude played lights out.
• 1:43:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he wasn't a big place to, he up into that point.
• 1:43:18
  [UNKNOWN]: He was a questionable player.
• 1:43:20
  [UNKNOWN]: I
• 1:43:24
  [UNKNOWN]: from the year before.
• 1:43:25
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, but that game forward dude that dude was, he was the secondary.
• 1:43:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Nothing against, I mean, I know J.C. Horn had that one game against the 49ers, after he and then he got knocked out of the game.
• 1:43:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And then, you know, that was a good game for him.
• 1:43:43
  [UNKNOWN]: But outside of that, I mean, J.C. Horn was like, just it felt like he was somewhat non-existent on the defense.
• 1:43:49
  [UNKNOWN]: It kind of makes me feel like I think what the Panthers did with Coker, right, is Coker.
• 1:43:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They have one as an, whatever that role is, the restricted free agent tag, like they could exclude Coker financially for the team this year, they could have given him nothing.
• 1:44:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and said, basically when we do that, we know you don't want to, we're, like, we're going to be part ways after this year because you're going to want more money and you're going to be mad at us because we didn't give, I almost feel like we should have given Mike Jackson the money.
• 1:44:27
  [UNKNOWN]: This year or last year.
• 1:44:29
  [UNKNOWN]: To avoid like to just have a good number two, but I don't want to get too deep in the weeds on the money.
• 1:44:40
  [UNKNOWN]: like overall with that, uh, we, we, what's next, Cody?
• 1:44:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Because then I am, we are going to, uh, take some I say, uh, I say, uh, what do you want to do that now?
• 1:44:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's go ahead and do it.
• 1:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Make sure I go.
• 1:44:54
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 1:44:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
• 1:44:59
  [UNKNOWN]: So what do your thoughts on cat calling?
• 1:45:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's pretty sh**t. You shouldn't do that.
• 1:45:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Somebody.
• 1:45:02
  [UNKNOWN]: And how do that make you feel?
• 1:45:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, very uncomfortable.
• 1:45:05
  [UNKNOWN]: How do you think cat calling makes the person feel?
• 1:45:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It feels good like,
• 1:45:27
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on, and you got me in the quick, all right, hold on, talk for a second when I make sure what's wrong with the Bluetooth right now.
• 1:45:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So Okay, yeah, you cover it's called I really feel like I'm disappointed that I can't see my reflection in your head right now.
• 1:45:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I know wish I wasn't in front of you, so You're beautiful That's all you got that's all you got you can't even just talk and I'm allowed to tell us okay That the man has a beautiful sign of head do he does?
• 1:46:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Secure your head with a few hours, Lucas from Bar City.
• 1:46:10
  [UNKNOWN]: But Bar was officially back.
• 1:46:13
  [UNKNOWN]: The Hall of Fame game was fun to watch.
• 1:46:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I know a lot of people were excited about Haines King's Ballon Out.
• 1:46:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I was too, that to see some young driver's seabers like Natchy, Ball Out, I'm excited about him.
• 1:46:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Hopefully he can take Brasal's spot and be our fourth wild racer around a field of hell, maybe even throw wild racer because XL sucks.
• 1:46:33
  [UNKNOWN]: And that's about that.
• 1:46:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to tell you how about our our Hall of Fame or Luke Katelyn man.
• 1:46:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can go check it.
• 1:46:40
  [UNKNOWN]: It looks a lot.
• 1:46:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It looks really good on them.
• 1:46:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm always excited because growing up we didn't have any legends now.
• 1:46:47
  [UNKNOWN]: We got we got three.
• 1:46:49
  [UNKNOWN]: We got three Hall of Famers and I'm really excited about it.
• 1:46:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to ask our quick question.
• 1:46:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Haven't put Luke in the hall of the Panthers Hall of Honor.
• 1:46:59
  [UNKNOWN]: His name isn't even on our stadium yet.
• 1:47:01
  [UNKNOWN]: How long do you think it's going to take before we get Luke in the Hall of Honor?
• 1:47:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I just think it's weird that one of our three Hall of Fame players isn't even doesn't even have his name on the stadium yet.
• 1:47:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I just think that's a little weird.
• 1:47:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding their panthers.
• 1:47:16
  [UNKNOWN]: It's pepper's in the Hall of Honor.
• 1:47:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes.
• 1:47:20
  [UNKNOWN]: He's gotten a bit.
• 1:47:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 1:47:25
  [UNKNOWN]: I think there is a difference.
• 1:47:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And Lucas from Forest City.
• 1:47:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the call.
• 1:47:30
  [UNKNOWN]: We'd love having you in the show called wonderful contribution.
• 1:47:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Great question too.
• 1:47:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think there is one difference when it comes in Luke is he's the second youngest.
• 1:47:43
  [UNKNOWN]: in duck or early as on guests to the hall of fame and gale sayers is the only other player that made it quicker I believe than he did like I think that it's almost like Lucas still part of the organization part of the team and like it's like almost it's not that they
• 1:48:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Hall of Fame induction was so quick, it's like, almost the Panthers weren't even prepared for it, and it almost makes it, I don't say cooler, but imagine if they were, if they put him in the, like, oh, we got to do this, are they stumping for him?
• 1:48:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke just went into the Hall of Fame.
• 1:48:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Nobody fucking questioned it.
• 1:48:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Not a single person.
• 1:48:34
  [UNKNOWN]: in the world.
• 1:48:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Did you hear one NFL player, one commentator, nothing?
• 1:48:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And you could say the only thing against Luke is just the longevity of his career is, but it was, there is undeniably Hall of Fame.
• 1:48:53
  [UNKNOWN]: So I almost feel like the Panthers are better off putting him in that after because
• 1:49:02
  [UNKNOWN]: the Hall of Fame not in the sense.
• 1:49:04
  [UNKNOWN]: And I'm just trying to make conversation out of it.
• 1:49:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Lucas, great point.
• 1:49:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, to me, when you have a Hall of Honor, all of the best players in your team's history, they have to be in there.
• 1:49:19
  [UNKNOWN]: So, when we almost think he could strap up and come back, it feels like, I don't even think that matters.
• 1:49:25
  [UNKNOWN]: He can come back and even if he did,
• 1:49:28
  [UNKNOWN]: nothing would change what he did and how good he was for the Panthers and I He is gonna be in it.
• 1:49:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Why isn't ACK should they did they fumble it here?
• 1:49:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Should they have tried to sneak it in real quick.
• 1:49:44
  [UNKNOWN]: It almost felt like it just happened.
• 1:49:46
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, I think when I look at do we know who all's been in the Hall of Honor at this point?
• 1:49:54
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, so we, I'll look it up.
• 1:49:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's this pep.
• 1:49:59
  [UNKNOWN]: It's Steve Smith.
• 1:50:01
  [UNKNOWN]: It's JJ Long Jordan Growsh.
• 1:50:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It is also.
• 1:50:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Messley walls was a, but he had my luncheon was Julius Peppers added after his Hall of Fame bid.
• 1:50:15
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you don't think so.
• 1:50:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna have to ask the, all right, keep going.
• 1:50:22
  [UNKNOWN]: My point being is, yeah, I mean, they could have put him in there, but they're doing the thing with the Hall of Honor, where it's not an every year thing either.
• 1:50:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And so, I think they have, and they're, they do it during the season.
• 1:50:37
  [UNKNOWN]: And you guys, keep that in mind, because we have the Hall of Honor game, so being able to do that before he gets the Hall of Fame Honor, it's, it's, it's impossible.
• 1:50:49
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, this is, this is according to Jiminy, my girlfriend.
• 1:50:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Mike McCormick inducted 1997, team president, general manager, Sam Mills, second,
• 1:51:11
  [UNKNOWN]: I like this one.
• 1:51:12
  [UNKNOWN]: PSL owners are in the hall of fame.
• 1:51:16
  [UNKNOWN]: 2004 induction.
• 1:51:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Jake Delong was 29 June.
• 1:51:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Ghost was 2019.
• 1:51:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Steve Smith senior was 2019.
• 1:51:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Wesley walls 2019.
• 1:51:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Muhammad wasn't until 2023.
• 1:51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Pepp.
• 1:51:30
  [UNKNOWN]: They said they
• 1:51:37
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I've got a little, I mean, pet didn't retire till late.
• 1:51:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, also the whole of our has tested for that long has it.
• 1:51:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, I've not really because yeah, everybody has been in since Teper came along.
• 1:51:54
  [UNKNOWN]: 2019, Deloam, Gross, Smitty, Walls, all 2019, and then we had Muhammad and peppers in 2023.
• 1:52:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I almost think this just shows
• 1:52:13
  [UNKNOWN]: is that you've got Julius Peppers who was a home with Famer, first ballot, boom, put him in there.
• 1:52:21
  [UNKNOWN]: And it takes this long.
• 1:52:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke Keakley is in and he was just playing like five minutes ago it felt like.
• 1:52:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, put him in put him in put him in.
• 1:52:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he will be in there and I think Luke just got him in tomorrow, but you know the question that we're going to continue to talk about next year, Cam Newton is eligible for the Hall of Fame.
• 1:52:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's that bubble.
• 1:52:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think you're wrong.
• 1:52:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I didn't know I started thinking I would like this if Cam Newton goes into the all the fam.
• 1:53:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Could anyone say that he does it deserve it?
• 1:53:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, like, it's one thing if you want to try to judge it for me, yeah, please save it for next year.
• 1:53:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I want and to be, I'm like, is it just we're going to continue to break down.
• 1:53:21
  [UNKNOWN]: What does it mean to be in the Hall of Fame of the NFL in its entirety?
• 1:53:29
  [UNKNOWN]: beyond just our team and what he did for a team.
• 1:53:35
  [UNKNOWN]: But I've been fretting with a CK, I mean, look, I look at the cakely and then I hear Stuponized fan saying he didn't mention them in the the speech and I don't know how to feel about these things because you know, I love camps so much.
• 1:53:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say this is that there are players being put in the hall of fame that I think he has surpassed their influence in their, they might be different positions, right?
• 1:54:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Is like, oh, this, but I think Cam had a, I think he's worthy, but I'm humble enough and
• 1:54:26
  [UNKNOWN]: He's a bubble that I want to bubble in.
• 1:54:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that's kind of weird to you, but I mean, because on the bubble, I think it's fair, like if I just said he's a Hall of Famer, no doubt, I think that would be me and my love for Cam, and my love for this, just being completely biased.
• 1:54:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, real quick, and we'll do this quick before we go to the next call, just for the purpose of going into the Hall of Fame, into the three of us favorite lucky moment.
• 1:55:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've told mine, my favorite loop moment is a moment when we were playing the Rams in a season where nothing actually happened.
• 1:55:13
  [UNKNOWN]: It was had no benefit to us whatsoever.
• 1:55:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And he just slammed a dude on the ground, maybe even a little late, didn't get called for the penalty and walked off, like, shrudding off.
• 1:55:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And the camera just followed him right into commercial break.
• 1:55:28
  [UNKNOWN]: And this dude was walking like nobody had anything they could do to stop him.
• 1:55:34
  [UNKNOWN]: And it was incredible.
• 1:55:36
  [UNKNOWN]: uh... favorite ludicly mama is it not heard a podcast of him recently and it was a snippet from a podcast and he said he kind of knew when he needed to retire when he started making business decisions a little bit like his i used to hit the i'll just rock this motherfucker and i'm like and he said he said something to the effect of that didn't feel that great anymore yeah
• 1:56:05
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, hold on.
• 1:56:06
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, baby.
• 1:56:07
  [UNKNOWN]: My daughter just walked in.
• 1:56:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, Gabriella, I love you.
• 1:56:10
  [UNKNOWN]: You're on live.
• 1:56:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You have a great time, I'll see you soon.
• 1:56:14
  [UNKNOWN]: So I saw that business, you know, and I saw him in Thomas Davis with like, just reward for their body.
• 1:56:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Dan Morgan used to do this.
• 1:56:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Like it just fucking blow to me.
• 1:56:26
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what it is to be a great linebacker.
• 1:56:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Think about like Ray Lewis back in the day.
• 1:56:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was just so much bigger.
• 1:56:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like it's like you're playing so fast.
• 1:56:39
  [UNKNOWN]: So I could pick one of these moments where you just destroyed somebody right or the Tony Romo interception like my I'll just go back to this one is that when Luke keycly was a rookie.
• 1:56:57
  [UNKNOWN]: and he moved to Charlotte.
• 1:56:58
  [UNKNOWN]: So Nick Scorton recently was a rookie last year and they did a profile on him on Panthers.com about him owning kittens.
• 1:57:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Right.
• 1:57:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Devin Funches, Mr.
• 1:57:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Salad Man, who tried to recover from that and tried to be a cook waiter.
• 1:57:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Luke Keakley's rookie profile
• 1:57:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he doesn't know.
• 1:57:27
  [UNKNOWN]: It wasn't, it wasn't not a television.
• 1:57:29
  [UNKNOWN]: He doesn't have cable.
• 1:57:31
  [UNKNOWN]: He just watches film.
• 1:57:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Like that mug was like this.
• 1:57:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I, like he just went home and ate a protein bar and watched film.
• 1:57:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I ate nothing else.
• 1:57:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So that's my favorite Luke Kickley moment is that dude don't need no Netflix.
• 1:57:48
  [UNKNOWN]: He don't need nothing.
• 1:57:50
  [UNKNOWN]: The internet goes out and he just puts in the saints' tape and he's fucking got it.
• 1:57:56
  [UNKNOWN]: to me, my favorite moment and there's so many to do it.
• 1:57:59
  [UNKNOWN]: I can put the cowboys game.
• 1:58:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I could even pick the intersection on Russell Wilson and the divisional round here in Carolina in 2015.
• 1:58:08
  [UNKNOWN]: but my favorite was that ring game 2014.
• 1:58:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Just watching Luke be in on every single play.
• 1:58:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Listen to the announcers, every other play is a little kick on the tackle, little kick on the tackle.
• 1:58:26
  [UNKNOWN]: Set a record that is in place until today.
• 1:58:30
  [UNKNOWN]: That's incredible.
• 1:58:31
  [UNKNOWN]: That was indicative of what kind of player he was for this plan to his defense man.
• 1:58:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Congrats to Luke.
• 1:58:38
  [UNKNOWN]: That will never be in.
• 1:58:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll go like him.
• 1:58:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And if there is, we would love him like crazy.
• 1:58:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go back to the calls.
• 1:58:47
  [UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 15, 98.
• 1:58:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go to my bastards son, white chocolate, express their gift.
• 1:58:54
  [UNKNOWN]: What you got?
• 1:59:00
  [UNKNOWN]: to be too, it's totally cute, be one, have life serves to go up.
• 1:59:06
  [UNKNOWN]: The price continues to do what he did in that Ramskin.
• 1:59:09
  [UNKNOWN]: You'll question about it.
• 1:59:10
  [UNKNOWN]: When you cite him, you'll be like, Oh, my gosh.
• 1:59:13
  [UNKNOWN]: These stop with all of this.
• 1:59:16
  [UNKNOWN]: If he's photos, they take this quarterback.
• 1:59:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Bottom half, 15.
• 1:59:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a self-sway.
• 1:59:27
  [UNKNOWN]: I know it's just one precision.
• 1:59:29
  [UNKNOWN]: It's three and fours, but thinking throughout this pre-time, I'm all feeling we're planning more.
• 1:59:36
  [UNKNOWN]: If it's still playing the same way, the price is below average.
• 1:59:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, it's coming here.
• 1:59:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Might not be fine, price.
• 1:59:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe we get the end guy.
• 1:59:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Just saying, I don't think it's going to happen, because I think the price is going to be top 10 this year.
• 1:59:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I really don't think it is.
• 1:59:54
  [UNKNOWN]: What up, Busy?
• 1:59:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Faction, all this is.
• 1:59:56
  [UNKNOWN]: What's this?
• 1:59:58
  [UNKNOWN]: They just can be tough to, you know, one thing I think it would cost them as part of the offer for mine, but maybe you want to get it, but I still feel like he can be tough to have this year.
• 2:00:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, injuries?
• 2:00:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Fuck.
• 2:00:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys are just coming, keep homecoming.
• 2:00:13
  [UNKNOWN]: In linebacker, position, if you were saying shack, I don't know.
• 2:00:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to jake the raw rigets for this reason.
• 2:00:20
  [UNKNOWN]: But you know, it didn't happen.
• 2:00:23
  [UNKNOWN]: But, um,
• 2:00:28
  [UNKNOWN]: a sack for everything.
• 2:00:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And from the Hall of Fame game, he said, he's bringing the pressure, where is the pressure comes from?
• 2:00:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I jokingly said, the pressure is in Houston, aka clowning.
• 2:00:40
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're jokingly, but then I said, clowning might come in this season with Houston, have another eight and a half sack season while our leading factor will probably have five and a half.
• 2:01:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Come on, Kev.
• 2:01:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Is that the whole call?
• 2:01:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Nah, yeah, it's 23 more.
• 2:01:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Alright.
• 2:01:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's what can happen all the time.
• 2:01:13
  [UNKNOWN]: And Cody says, here's the club on here.
• 2:01:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Five and a half facts.
• 2:01:16
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't have a bigger issue.
• 2:01:18
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm on the back hoodie right here.
• 2:01:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Twenty bucks.
• 2:01:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Connie has more facts than Phillips.
• 2:01:24
  [UNKNOWN]: It's here.
• 2:01:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Do it.
• 2:01:26
  [UNKNOWN]: and not Yes, Cody you better take the bat not because you better be
• 2:01:40
  [UNKNOWN]: 50 motherfucker was good.
• 2:01:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Put your balls on the table.
• 2:01:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I bet you 50 that Phillips has more sex at the end of the year than to Debbie and Clownie.
• 2:01:53
  [UNKNOWN]: If I'm wrong, I'll pay up.
• 2:01:55
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up, son?
• 2:01:59
  [UNKNOWN]: you have to.
• 2:02:00
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and Kevin might be right at the end.
• 2:02:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's a crazy thing.
• 2:02:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not about Philip like McClontey could, you know what I mean?
• 2:02:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And Philip's could have just six, seven.
• 2:02:14
  [UNKNOWN]: And but we need it.
• 2:02:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I know you're in the chat.
• 2:02:20
  [UNKNOWN]: You said, Tony, I say, fit.
• 2:02:21
  [UNKNOWN]: It was up.
• 2:02:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, he's got your body by it.
• 2:02:24
  [UNKNOWN]: And he doubles you, but he will take your 21.
• 2:02:27
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's go.
• 2:02:29
  [UNKNOWN]: So y'all see it between gentleman Phillips and the deviant clown, whoever has more sex when they're against 50 bucks.
• 2:02:35
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's go to John and be.
• 2:02:39
  [UNKNOWN]: John bastard.
• 2:02:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Hey, guys, Joey, you can call him for what will likely be.
• 2:02:48
  [UNKNOWN]: old football update of the year.
• 2:02:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:02:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I might call in next week and give you the score of the IFL national championship game, but that's about always got left before it's just NFL football.
• 2:03:00
  [UNKNOWN]: This past weekend.
• 2:03:01
  [UNKNOWN]: We had two championship games take place.
• 2:03:04
  [UNKNOWN]: We had arena mania three, which is the championship game of.
• 2:03:09
  [UNKNOWN]: the arena league and that's what I've never heard of any of this.
• 2:03:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are, did not make it to the championship game.
• 2:03:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The game was played by the St. Joseph Goats and the Arkansas Diamonds.
• 2:03:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Again, the St. Joseph Goats are the team that is owned by Chris Acoy and the Kelsey Brothers.
• 2:03:30
  [UNKNOWN]: And they won 52 to 30.
• 2:03:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, it was pretty good game.
• 2:03:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Arkansas came back.
• 2:03:39
  [UNKNOWN]: It was back and forth and then things just pulled away.
• 2:03:43
  [UNKNOWN]: The more exciting game last weekend was the Arena Crown, Arena Crown 2026 of the AF-1, which is again the remnants of the original Arena League.
• 2:03:54
  [UNKNOWN]: It was played in Nashville by the Nashville Tech and the Albany Firebirds, and this came down to the last second of the game, or the last two seconds of the game.
• 2:04:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Crazy strategy where if you know arena ball, you're understanding why this happened, but I don't.
• 2:04:10
  [UNKNOWN]: National.
• 2:04:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And there's like a minute something left in the game.
• 2:04:14
  [UNKNOWN]: They do an on-site kit, but purposely, like purposely screw up the on-site kit to give all the needs of ball, like on the goal line.
• 2:04:22
  [UNKNOWN]: All the need plays a good ball, runs the clock out, and it's on fourth down, it got two seconds left.
• 2:04:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Hands can come down and fumble the ball or sort of the good for past it gets blocked and National wins the game.
• 2:04:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It was super exciting not as exciting as the game With our Carolina Panthers and King Haines, but it was great arena ball and you can watch that Replay on YouTube.
• 2:04:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Please go watch that game.
• 2:04:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Great.
• 2:04:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Um now the last alternate football championship before regular football plays out is going to be the
• 2:04:56
  [UNKNOWN]: IFL National Championship, that is the indoor football league, and that is my favorite of all of the indoor 50-yard leagues, most polished, best presented.
• 2:05:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyways, that is going to be played this Sunday at 4pm on the Yahoo Sports Network.
• 2:05:11
  [UNKNOWN]: You can find that on different TV packages, you can also just watch it on YouTube.
• 2:05:15
  [UNKNOWN]: But it's the Arizona Radlers at the Green Bay Blizzard, and there's a lot of storylines
• 2:05:25
  [UNKNOWN]: left Green Bay where he got them to the national championship and then joined the Arizona Radlers, he's going back against his team and they've got Andrew me that's all I got for you keep pounded.
• 2:05:34
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:05:34
  [UNKNOWN]: They found it.
• 2:05:36
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, King Haines, uh, referencing the Panthers Hall of Fame game and CK, um, Cody is known for,
• 2:05:51
  [UNKNOWN]: is.
• 2:05:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
• 2:05:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm like, or it like is, uh, I mean, the best part on the internet down the hill where I like this.
• 2:06:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Actually, I don't like it.
• 2:06:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I see this.
• 2:06:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I see sometimes in the comments of the show, but a lot of times on Twitter and they're like, this dude has a worse fucking takes on quarterbacks this and that.
• 2:06:13
  [UNKNOWN]: But Cody, I mean, I've been right.
• 2:06:15
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe we'll all have them.
• 2:06:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Both of these guys at name are Cody.
• 2:06:19
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, he comes out and he goes, I, what was the tweet you put out is my agenda?
• 2:06:27
  [UNKNOWN]: The hands.
• 2:06:28
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you asked that the same team could be one agenda about the push will be legendary.
• 2:06:33
  [UNKNOWN]: Take care.
• 2:06:34
  [UNKNOWN]: I thought, oh my god, the entire Panther Internet is ready to storm the gates on Cody for this.
• 2:06:44
  [UNKNOWN]: Cody, do you really, is that what you meant?
• 2:06:49
  [UNKNOWN]: So the plan that the Panthers would be better off starting and king than Bryson Young.
• 2:06:59
  [UNKNOWN]: What I'm saying is this, I do believe that he's going to be the number two of why I drew a quarterback before the start of the preseason.
• 2:07:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I think if he gets enough opportunity, granted that he gets enough opportunity, okay?
• 2:07:17
  [UNKNOWN]: if he doesn't play because of injury rather than the opposite we're gonna go and pick it but i'm not making predictions for Bryson this year i'm not kept said top 10 i'm not predicting top 10 i haven't seen anything to say that he's a top 10 quarterback show me top 10 what i do though if it would be better
• 2:07:41
  [UNKNOWN]: There's no scenario.
• 2:07:42
  [UNKNOWN]: There's what I believe.
• 2:07:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, let me tell you what I believe.
• 2:07:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe the hands came is faster.
• 2:07:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I believe that there's a bigger arm.
• 2:07:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I saw, okay.
• 2:07:53
  [UNKNOWN]: High level arm talent.
• 2:07:55
  [UNKNOWN]: And I saw the ability to, okay, that's not the point.
• 2:07:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know.
• 2:08:00
  [UNKNOWN]: So what does that matter?
• 2:08:03
  [UNKNOWN]: because the physical traits don't just don't matter, you have to do things.
• 2:08:11
  [UNKNOWN]: Right, like, all these guys are getting on everything, but you want the whole package of a player.
• 2:08:17
  [UNKNOWN]: You want the whole package, if Bryce is doing it, if Bryce is doing it, if Bryce is doing it.
• 2:08:22
  [UNKNOWN]: It says nothing to do with Bryce Young.
• 2:08:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Hang the game and having a live on and being mobile has nothing to true success at the position right now is like we can be happy about it.
• 2:08:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Hangs King.
• 2:08:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Have it a moment.
• 2:08:44
  [UNKNOWN]: But that doesn't it's not a referendum or anything on Bryce.
• 2:08:49
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 2:09:14
  [UNKNOWN]: get mad, get mad and stay mad.
• 2:09:17
  [UNKNOWN]: But I'm also, I know, when vice president made, I promise I'll keep producing one by the end.
• 2:09:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But until then, I still better athlete a bigger arm.
• 2:09:31
  [UNKNOWN]: And I want to see more of them.
• 2:09:33
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope to see more of the pieces.
• 2:09:35
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that we could say we saw a bigger arm.
• 2:09:38
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I've seen those same deep throws.
• 2:09:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, he didn't miss the deep throws.
• 2:09:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, there's this one throw that he threw a layer throw that the internet's going.
• 2:09:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the one to horn.
• 2:09:47
  [UNKNOWN]: And I feel like it's also kind of in the triple coverage.
• 2:09:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I feel like he missed most of the stuff.
• 2:09:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, he made the throw.
• 2:09:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Tell me when deep throw he made outside of that.
• 2:09:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe 50.
• 2:09:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Why do he had the reason he had the reason I went up and he liked.
• 2:10:03
  [UNKNOWN]: I like what it was, but there was like every detail he had, he was a yard or two shy or overshooting the guy every time.
• 2:10:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Like he was more than one yard.
• 2:10:07
  [UNKNOWN]: That was the only thing that he had ever done, he had ever done whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done, whatever he had done,
• 2:10:26
  [UNKNOWN]: about as best as you like a great like if you could draw it up for what you are an undrafted rookie free agent who hasn't had rap like this and that and he went out there he's getting a call he's not running on the dime he did
• 2:10:42
  [UNKNOWN]: What a great day for him.
• 2:10:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm celebrating him.
• 2:10:46
  [UNKNOWN]: I am truly celebrating his performance and what he did in that moment.
• 2:10:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But what I truly will celebrate the most about this is this is the way you find a backup quarterback.
• 2:11:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Or a guy who is a backup that somehow comes in and shows you he's more later down the road not now I'm talking like two years from now is we didn't draft him like
• 2:11:29
  [UNKNOWN]: We didn't have a life of a weird.
• 2:11:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't put that demon on me.
• 2:11:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay, I think you did.
• 2:11:34
  [UNKNOWN]: But no, here's the thing is, I would rather find a well-grear.
• 2:11:41
  [UNKNOWN]: I would rather find a backup quarterback that could be something without expending a third round draft pit.
• 2:11:50
  [UNKNOWN]: like I think this is like I think if anything that the league missed out and they should have drafted him in the 6th of the 7th round hands king but I think it's if he can become a backup right and this league and then maybe more
• 2:12:08
  [UNKNOWN]: That's the way you want to get it.
• 2:12:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't want to go out there and be like, imagine if the Panthers would have drafted quarterback in round three or four this year.
• 2:12:16
  [UNKNOWN]: And they're like, oh, we're just should draft a good developmental quarterback.
• 2:12:20
  [UNKNOWN]: What does that say about price?
• 2:12:22
  [UNKNOWN]: And what does it say about that quarterback?
• 2:12:23
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not going to be a fucking quarterback ever.
• 2:12:26
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the way I'd like to get that project or whatever it is.
• 2:12:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's catch brought party in the last pick.
• 2:12:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Catch Haines King and Undrafted.
• 2:12:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Don't spend a third or fourth round for a guy that you don't believe in at all, that you may cut.
• 2:12:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I like that the most about Haines King.
• 2:12:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that was fun about it.
• 2:12:52
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go back to John B Jenkins.
• 2:12:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, hey guys, it's Jeremy Jenkins.
• 2:13:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I wish I could capture how excited I was right when it happened, but holy fuck, I don't know shit, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 2:13:07
  [UNKNOWN]: But I guess.
• 2:13:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 2:13:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That was amazing.
• 2:13:21
  [UNKNOWN]: That was so cool.
• 2:13:22
  [UNKNOWN]: I love that football.
• 2:13:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And, uh, man, King
• 2:13:50
  [UNKNOWN]: It's going to honor Chris Winky, the guy who never could, but Joe Tanna, at least.
• 2:13:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It tells Jack the loom came, but anyway, that's the whole other story, man.
• 2:14:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm so excited.
• 2:14:01
  [UNKNOWN]: That was so fun.
• 2:14:02
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the year.
• 2:14:03
  [UNKNOWN]: This is the year.
• 2:14:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Go on, Chris.
• 2:14:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep out of it.
• 2:14:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep out there.
• 2:14:11
  [UNKNOWN]: All right.
• 2:14:11
  [UNKNOWN]: We've done some mistakes.
• 2:14:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Tony, I'm telling you, you're missing it right now.
• 2:14:15
  [UNKNOWN]: And you're trying to be the voice of reason.
• 2:14:18
  [UNKNOWN]: And I appreciate that.
• 2:14:19
  [UNKNOWN]: At the end of that fucking game.
• 2:14:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Everyone was so lit, the chat was jumping, I was jumping, everybody was just that.
• 2:14:32
  [UNKNOWN]: On another level.
• 2:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:14:35
  [UNKNOWN]: It's an art.
• 2:14:37
  [UNKNOWN]: So let's, you know what, sign them.
• 2:14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Go ahead.
• 2:14:39
  [UNKNOWN]: You know what, I think that we've been having the wrong conversation.
• 2:14:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Should we extend Bryce, y'all?
• 2:14:45
  [UNKNOWN]: No.
• 2:14:46
  [UNKNOWN]: should we give Haines King a long-term deal?
• 2:14:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Is the conversation we should be having five years 300 million.
• 2:14:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
• 2:14:59
  [UNKNOWN]: But the price five years down to $0.00.
• 2:15:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Haines King.
• 2:15:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go ahead.
• 2:15:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, you want to get on before inflation hits, right?
• 2:15:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Didn't we have this stupid conversation with Bryce earlier?
• 2:15:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you what, let's the better.
• 2:15:11
  [UNKNOWN]: None of the curve.
• 2:15:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it was like, all right, yes.
• 2:15:14
  [UNKNOWN]: If you could get Haines King for a cheat right now.
• 2:15:19
  [UNKNOWN]: And before I listen, I understand the sarcasm in my voice.
• 2:15:24
  [UNKNOWN]: You would do your trust more if Bryce worked God forbid to get hurt to come in and quarterback this day.
• 2:15:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you pick it?
• 2:15:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Kenny Peckett.
• 2:15:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Really?
• 2:15:37
  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to get two with three wins, yes.
• 2:15:40
  [UNKNOWN]: If you want to get a player that could develop in two or three years, Hank's gang.
• 2:15:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Kenny Peckett is Kenny Peckett.
• 2:15:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Not I think Kenny pick it is a great backup.
• 2:15:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I think he's a guy that's started.
• 2:15:55
  [UNKNOWN]: I think that he knows like yes a great backup a great backup is a player that's better than your starter, but isn't such a drop off That can't if your quarterback has to miss three games because of a spring to ankle doesn't ruin the season.
• 2:16:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you this, hands can't will be a better quarterback than can they pick it.
• 2:16:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Okay.
• 2:16:22
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, I mean, maybe maybe here.
• 2:16:25
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's go, maybe all right, let's get this.
• 2:16:28
  [UNKNOWN]: We got to go back because I got two calls.
• 2:16:31
  [UNKNOWN]: I got to get C dog who's in the chat right now.
• 2:16:33
  [UNKNOWN]: He said, Tony, we beef him.
• 2:16:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, here, we're going to your call right now.
• 2:16:38
  [UNKNOWN]: This is right after I believe the only thing game.
• 2:16:41
  [UNKNOWN]: Paul Cas brothers, I was doing Kee Kavloss EA.
• 2:16:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Man, oh man, what a pretty seasoned game, man.
• 2:16:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, oh my god, that game was good.
• 2:16:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt like a regular seasoned game, didn't it?
• 2:16:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Was it just me?
• 2:16:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, it did, just me.
• 2:16:56
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna say it now, bump him up to the second quarter bat behind Bryce, let him back up Bryce Young.
• 2:17:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That boy has a arm on him.
• 2:17:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, we all know that he can scramble, but you notice when he scramble, he scramble in to pass first instead of running.
• 2:17:16
  [UNKNOWN]: I really, really, really do, and Dylan did okay, too, man, you know, and to me, I was thinking about it today, is that things that is really, really good, or was it the new offensive coordinator actually calling the place, and not Dave, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:17:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Or is it both?
• 2:17:40
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:17:42
  [UNKNOWN]: And everybody, I can't wait for this scene to start.
• 2:17:45
  [UNKNOWN]: It's interesting to see that you've done a lot of good grunting back and poker only hell I was three touchdowns and it is when no one thing what the Panthers both them are coming off the injuries.
• 2:17:56
  [UNKNOWN]: Because I'm correct.
• 2:17:58
  [UNKNOWN]: Correct me if I'm wrong.
• 2:18:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But to the Hubble was coming off of a thousand Russian yard season.
• 2:18:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody, nobody want to talk about that shit, you know what I'm saying, but you know, it is what it is.
• 2:18:08
  [UNKNOWN]: Many people don't care about the damn passes, but us and that's why we're going to shock the damn world this year.
• 2:18:14
  [UNKNOWN]: We are going to tell you how again this year.
• 2:18:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't give them a little about to say.
• 2:18:19
  [UNKNOWN]: But give your thoughts on Mr. King.
• 2:18:22
  [UNKNOWN]: King.
• 2:18:23
  [UNKNOWN]: George is 10.
• 2:18:23
  [UNKNOWN]: ABC player of the damn year.
• 2:18:27
  [UNKNOWN]: George is 10, baby.
• 2:18:28
  [UNKNOWN]: George is 10.
• 2:18:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Give me your thoughts on that y'all.
• 2:18:31
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding.
• 2:18:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding.
• 2:18:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, I mean, I really do think we found our quarterback too.
• 2:18:38
  [UNKNOWN]: See, okay?
• 2:18:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know when it happens, but I do think why would you not want to continue to develop a quarterback like hands king?
• 2:18:50
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, and, uh, can you pick it?
• 2:18:52
  [UNKNOWN]: But, you know, he's he's a journeyman at this point.
• 2:18:56
  [UNKNOWN]: He's going to bounce around.
• 2:18:58
  [UNKNOWN]: He'll play for a bunch of different teams.
• 2:19:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But why spend more money in time on pick it when you have hands came, who's young, dynamic, has a ton of talent, can grow and be developed.
• 2:19:12
  [UNKNOWN]: I think it's only matter of time until he is quarterback too.
• 2:19:17
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, let's agree.
• 2:19:19
  [UNKNOWN]: Good, let's hear it.
• 2:19:20
  [UNKNOWN]: Next call.
• 2:19:29
  [UNKNOWN]: because there haven't been much to say uh... but that is definitely changed because and he's king oh there we go was a month and on the bandwagon and i think he's heard in the cannon with the game on the line two seconds left i cannot get on this and actually got the fuck in the end of them or like some other shit to do the deal with or do you see it over the room on the field
• 2:20:00
  [UNKNOWN]: No, you did not see it.
• 2:20:04
  [UNKNOWN]: I was actually able to lost that game to felt it as hard.
• 2:20:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I was out of waiting in the lunch or jogging, but it's a real feel of how we should go.
• 2:20:16
  [UNKNOWN]: But I had time to watch a little bit of a pamper's game, and I certainly did find that exact to see it.
• 2:20:29
  [UNKNOWN]: I've had already taught him for Haynes King's start over the price.
• 2:20:32
  [UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not.
• 2:20:33
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a bit rich.
• 2:20:34
  [UNKNOWN]: The price ceiling has a share.
• 2:20:36
  [UNKNOWN]: We've moved him a lot of people involved.
• 2:20:39
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, but Haynes King just looks cooler than me.
• 2:20:44
  [UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, how he does it?
• 2:20:47
  [UNKNOWN]: Yes, he does.
• 2:20:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I had to say.
• 2:20:51
  [UNKNOWN]: What's up with muscles, man?
• 2:20:52
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:20:54
  [UNKNOWN]: I was going to go by, but I'm just up.
• 2:20:56
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• 2:20:56
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• 2:20:57
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• 2:21:18
  [UNKNOWN]: sense of the word.
• 2:21:20
  [UNKNOWN]: We love you pie's on.
• 2:21:22
  [UNKNOWN]: We do love you pie's on muscles.
• 2:21:24
  [UNKNOWN]: We mess you and Joey look is a lot of us didn't even I didn't we didn't even find this out until his brother I think or one of the employees.
• 2:21:35
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• 2:21:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Anyway, my P.J.
• 2:21:42
  [UNKNOWN]: P.J.
• 2:21:43
  [UNKNOWN]: passed on.
• 2:21:44
  [UNKNOWN]: He lost a battle with cancer, so we love you P.J.
• 2:21:48
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the status of their restaurant is.
• 2:21:53
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, also, I won't go into too much detail and she's already made this public.
• 2:22:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Look, look at this shirt.
• 2:22:02
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• 2:22:03
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• 2:22:05
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to give a shout out to our girl Legacy Lin.
• 2:22:10
  [UNKNOWN]: We love you.
• 2:22:11
  [UNKNOWN]: She's going through a lot.
• 2:22:12
  [UNKNOWN]: It's a crew right now.
• 2:22:14
  [UNKNOWN]: She's made a bunch of shirts for us in the past.
• 2:22:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Legacy Lin is going through her own health issues right now.
• 2:22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: So to everyone who is the praying type, please keep Legacy Lin
• 2:22:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Time to need, we love you, Lane.
• 2:22:36
  [UNKNOWN]: You know we got you.
• 2:22:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and thank you for everything that you've, your time, your energy, and your tension.
• 2:22:44
  [UNKNOWN]: And, Lane has helped me personally, like, with, like, things on the show.
• 2:22:51
  [UNKNOWN]: She's been, she has, her husband passed away and expected that she'd been through.
• 2:22:56
  [UNKNOWN]: She moved from California to the South Carolina.
• 2:23:01
  [UNKNOWN]: All it look is whatever we say or do will not change anything we believe in prayer if you believe in prayer do it, but just know that we
• 2:23:14
  [UNKNOWN]: at least recognize, I recognize, you've been important to me in my life, that's what I was saying to Lynn and, and I just, it's been a card for Christmas, almost every year.
• 2:23:30
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  [UNKNOWN]: Next call.
• 2:23:42
  [UNKNOWN]: to the one on everybody's meaty dog like K-3 TV.
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• 2:23:50
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• 2:23:54
  [UNKNOWN]: They go live, every Tuesday, and they go to see Paul, every Friday, and they go to the game, every cast, or a season of something.
• 2:24:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Excuse me, the real quick.
• 2:24:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Those are really great, so the night, with Roma Harper, you know, really really great show.
• 2:24:10
  [UNKNOWN]: That's not a really great,
• 2:24:14
  [UNKNOWN]: and what you're about, you know what happens when it's true, man, you may have to end the act of a person about the NFL players and both, I don't know if you've got to tell them what you're like, I hope they do, that's the reason, it's the reason you've been down the earth and everything.
• 2:24:32
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm almost too worried you're gonna do the right thing.
• 2:24:36
  [UNKNOWN]: But a real quick intro, man, I'll see how
• 2:24:42
  [UNKNOWN]: The past people were getting the hangings team with the fuck them all and we more hangings team.
• 2:24:49
  [UNKNOWN]: I want to see hangings team, I want us to read out to them.
• 2:24:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We all know about that.
• 2:24:52
  [UNKNOWN]: They're saying I'm straight.
• 2:24:53
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
• 2:24:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Well, hopefully we can see on the flight, you know, that's another thing.
• 2:24:58
  [UNKNOWN]: And he said, God, number two, you know, go hang, get rid of it, can you think it?
• 2:25:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Bring it back.
• 2:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Everybody.
• 2:25:05
  [UNKNOWN]: Can they pick it?
• 2:25:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 2:25:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Go on forward.
• 2:25:13
  [UNKNOWN]: the line by the situation.
• 2:25:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's sort of wild to make it fight on a lofty spot, but the even last year required service came here, a choir show of the ball.
• 2:25:25
  [UNKNOWN]: It's not straight for a choir to be playing it with the lawyers before these things.
• 2:25:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, even Ben Marks got what he was doing, he said, and you know,
• 2:25:41
  [UNKNOWN]: We might be moving on to something, but we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see, man, we'll see,
• 2:26:03
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah man, what is the price for all this man?
• 2:26:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's nothing man.
• 2:26:05
  [UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just, it's just,
• 2:26:28
  [UNKNOWN]: and he fucking found it.
• 2:26:30
  [UNKNOWN]: It was a great got there.
• 2:26:31
  [UNKNOWN]: So the like great everything, man.
• 2:26:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 2:26:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 2:26:35
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
• 2:26:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Jimmy.
• 2:26:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
• 2:26:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Roman Harper.
• 2:26:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Thank you, C. Dog.
• 2:26:42
  [UNKNOWN]: We have two quick calls.
• 2:26:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
• 2:26:46
  [UNKNOWN]: We have the short.
• 2:26:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know, you know, you just won't talk much.
• 2:26:48
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
• 2:26:48
  [UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
• 2:26:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, and up to guys, I forgot to make, but you guys know, I'm not going to do it too.
• 2:26:57
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• 2:27:14
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• 2:27:38
  [UNKNOWN]: Go sit, keep out of the kitchen.
• 2:27:39
  [UNKNOWN]: Go sit, keep out of the kitchen.
• 2:27:40
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• 2:27:42
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• 2:27:42
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• 2:27:43
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• 2:27:44
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• 2:27:45
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• 2:27:46
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• 2:27:47
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• 2:27:49
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• 2:27:50
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• 2:27:51
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• 2:27:53
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• 2:27:54
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• 2:27:55
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• 2:27:55
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• 2:27:56
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• 2:27:57
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• 2:27:58
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• 2:27:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Go sit,
• 2:28:00
  [UNKNOWN]: three y'all know we got to do this we got to get fucking seasoning and the hollow fucking taste.
• 2:28:05
  [UNKNOWN]: He does deserve it.
• 2:28:06
  [UNKNOWN]: He does deserve it.
• 2:28:08
  [UNKNOWN]: We found us at this profile bar we see you for whole me and that's me and that's just some kind of other kind of thing.
• 2:28:17
  [UNKNOWN]: We had to get a group out of this video on Halloween.
• 2:28:18
  [UNKNOWN]: But that's all I can say.
• 2:28:19
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm going to tell you a little bit about it.
• 2:28:21
  [UNKNOWN]: his numbers are comparable to Andre Johnson and so I do think he should be considered and is Hall of Fame worthy and I think it's less bubble like great show tonight with Roman Harper
• 2:28:40
  [UNKNOWN]: thank you Cody for all the work you do in the background for this.
• 2:28:44
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are heading into preseason game 2 and we debate.
• 2:28:51
  [UNKNOWN]: We're not debating it now about winning how much you should play the starters, but Dave Canalis came out and said this is the game.
• 2:29:00
  [UNKNOWN]: I won't say the game but he said we're playing them for what he described as the Kenny Pickett segment ultimately it sounds like 15 to 20 plays depending on what they do and how they do it.
• 2:29:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe a quarter's worth of work and offense.
• 2:29:17
  [UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are going and facing
• 2:29:20
  [UNKNOWN]: The Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen, DJ Moore, we don't know if they will be playing last week, the Carolina Panthers were one and a half point favorites.
• 2:29:30
  [UNKNOWN]: Now, they are on the road, one and a half point dogs.
• 2:29:34
  [UNKNOWN]: Last week, it was a 35 point over under and they smashed that the Cardinals and the Panthers smashed that in the first half.
• 2:29:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Going to Buffalo, just give me your quick thoughts on playing the starters or what you want to talk about with this, Dave can out said, hey, it's time.
• 2:29:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Brush made a play good, but we hear more calls for hands.
• 2:30:01
  [UNKNOWN]: Game.
• 2:30:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, gosh.
• 2:30:03
  [UNKNOWN]: All right, put the key there.
• 2:30:04
  [UNKNOWN]: CK is at the right moment.
• 2:30:07
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it the right time to play the starters?
• 2:30:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I'm actually surprised they're doing it in this game.
• 2:30:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it is the right time.
• 2:30:14
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't think that we need to be overly cautious right now.
• 2:30:21
  [UNKNOWN]: We need to, now do I think they need to play more than a series or two, no.
• 2:30:25
  [UNKNOWN]: But I think they need to get that real-time rep in and then get that confidence and then get the next week and do maybe a little bit more than third week.
• 2:30:36
  [UNKNOWN]: It should be a dress rehearsal and they're out there for at least an entire half.
• 2:30:40
  [UNKNOWN]: Wow, lots of time for C.K.
• 2:30:43
  [UNKNOWN]: I wonder if they play him here and then shut them down for the rest of the preseason.
• 2:30:49
  [UNKNOWN]: You guys, if you're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast right now, make sure you smash the thumbs up button, subscribe, consider being a C3 super fan for just $1.99 a month on YouTube.
• 2:30:59
  [UNKNOWN]: We're on Spotify and iTunes.
• 2:31:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Leave her a view and leave a comment in the show afterwards.
• 2:31:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Should the Carolina Panthers play their starters beyond Buffalo?
• 2:31:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it contingent on how their performance is in Buffalo?
• 2:31:17
  [UNKNOWN]: Is it a dress rehearsal like CK said for a real rehearsal and then afterwards?
• 2:31:24
  [UNKNOWN]: Did they get it right?
• 2:31:29
  [UNKNOWN]: Roman Harper's comments and what should we have asked them Cody?
• 2:31:35
  [UNKNOWN]: That is the end of the show except for a final segment where we tell someone to ice up toughen up to get it together.
• 2:31:41
  [UNKNOWN]: It's so much to Steve Smith.
• 2:31:43
  [UNKNOWN]: Can we ice him fools up?
• 2:31:45
  [UNKNOWN]: Let's do it!
• 2:31:57
  [UNKNOWN]: It's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up toughen up to get it together.
• 2:32:03
  [UNKNOWN]: You can step in or outside the bounds of football.
• 2:32:08
  [UNKNOWN]: What do you guys have?
• 2:32:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Are you ready?
• 2:32:10
  [UNKNOWN]: I am ready when you are ready.
• 2:32:13
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let me know.
• 2:32:14
  [UNKNOWN]: Alright, my ice up goes to this is I went on a short vacation honeymoon experience, wonderful, great time we went to the mountains of North Carolina, the bone, we stayed and sugar, sugar mountain, that's go so it's just wonderful time.
• 2:32:35
  [UNKNOWN]: On the way back, assuming back, trying to get back my son's going to college is today moved into NC State, brave proud of him as a man when he's going to do and what he is going to accomplish.
• 2:32:50
  [UNKNOWN]: I continue telling him, look, is, well, I'm proud of you now.
• 2:32:54
  [UNKNOWN]: What you're going to do next, me even more proud of, so don't rest on those rules just yet.
• 2:33:00
  [UNKNOWN]: But I don't like to eat fast food a lot.
• 2:33:04
  [UNKNOWN]: a ton but you know you're on the road you're trying to not stop yeah stop that time I go I never have a great experience in the horridies I mean it was the only thing at the moment but it's not the food it wasn't that we get the go through get them the two meals real
• 2:33:31
  [UNKNOWN]: It was, I think it was $22, either $21, yeah, I think it was $21 or $3 or $20, it was something $03, because either $21 or $22 or $0.03, since.
• 2:33:40
  [UNKNOWN]: $22, this is the total.
• 2:33:42
  [UNKNOWN]: $21, $3, since.
• 2:33:42
  [UNKNOWN]: I pull up the window, think that's what it was, is like because we're getting a one,
• 2:34:02
  [UNKNOWN]: A 20, you know, you're like, just trying to get a five back or something like that.
• 2:34:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Give the three cents.
• 2:34:10
  [UNKNOWN]: And the girl said, no, she said, you've got to give me five cents to get your dollar back because they don't do pennies.
• 2:34:23
  [UNKNOWN]: And I, I got, I won't say I wasn't mean, but I was like, what?
• 2:34:32
  [UNKNOWN]: like what do you mean I have to overpay to get a dollar I'm giving you exact change like you said this is how much the bill yes I'm giving you exact change but because of their
• 2:34:49
  [UNKNOWN]: Round up, round down the, um, I guess the, the while the penny is not made anymore.
• 2:34:58
  [UNKNOWN]: It's still in circulation, but that like it doesn't exist anymore.
• 2:35:02
  [UNKNOWN]: I just, I'm going to say this is I feel like you should be able to give the exact amount that you're charged, and I had to then pull out two more pennies.
• 2:35:17
  [UNKNOWN]: to get the dollar, the exact amount I was owed.
• 2:35:21
  [UNKNOWN]: I had to overpay to get the exact amount that I was owed.
• 2:35:26
  [UNKNOWN]: So I'm icing up this is the idea that
• 2:35:32
  [UNKNOWN]: opinion that pennies are not available that um that the company is always going to round up or rather them round down, which I understand that's what they were going to do anyway.
• 2:35:46
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we need legislation at this point that then makes it so every dollar amount is in a five or a ten,
• 2:35:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Do we need that legislation?
• 2:35:59
  [UNKNOWN]: Maybe, but then here's the problem.
• 2:36:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Our stupid as state legislator charges seven and a half percent for sales tax.
• 2:36:09
  [UNKNOWN]: So you can't round up around down because they are overcharging on sales to look.
• 2:36:17
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it is, but I think you should be able to pay money, give your money, and not be like, what's next?
• 2:36:24
  [UNKNOWN]: I felt like my grandpa or a granddad, being like, what's next?
• 2:36:31
  [UNKNOWN]: The dollars out of circulation do have to route, what if it's, what if it was
• 2:36:35
  [UNKNOWN]: four hundred and one dollars and you gave them four hundred and one dollars and like sorry, we don't take once.
• 2:36:42
  [UNKNOWN]: So you have to round up to four hundred and five dollars.
• 2:36:45
  [UNKNOWN]: I don't know what it is, but that was mad over these two pennies in this poor girl.
• 2:36:51
  [UNKNOWN]: I wasn't even mad at her, but I was like, with the fuck is your policy?
• 2:36:55
  [UNKNOWN]: We don't take exact change.
• 2:36:58
  [UNKNOWN]: I said to not taking exact change.
• 2:37:01
  [UNKNOWN]: I said, I said,
• 2:37:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah, you good.
• 2:37:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, Miles, I'm gonna be short and sweet.
• 2:37:09
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, I'm icing up the WNBA, because now I'll have him to define.
• 2:37:12
  [UNKNOWN]: Uh, what a woman is after two male players are now going to join the WNBA draft in 2007.
• 2:37:21
  [UNKNOWN]: So, if he coming in, he came out and she was like, I support women only competing in women's sports.
• 2:37:28
  [UNKNOWN]: So, then everybody else had to be outperformative and come out in favor of the
• 2:37:35
  [UNKNOWN]: now the WNBA is panic and because they actually are kind of have to take a stance on this.
• 2:37:42
  [UNKNOWN]: Less of former NBA player is getting ready to join the league so I stop WNBA, that's it, that's all I got.
• 2:37:51
  [UNKNOWN]: CK, do you have one for us?
• 2:37:54
  [UNKNOWN]: Um, nothing that's coming up here.
• 2:37:55
  [UNKNOWN]: Then let me give you this one because I know Cody's got to go, but I would love to ice up this woman that did a chlorine bomb that exploded.
• 2:38:04
  [UNKNOWN]: Can you take this down real quick?
• 2:38:06
  [UNKNOWN]: So four second video, four second video.
• 2:38:09
  [UNKNOWN]: I will say ice up laughing at somebody in the playing golf in the rain and you're filming them being like, ha ha listen to this, the laugh.
• 2:38:22
  [UNKNOWN]: of this guy right here is he's trying to film his friend playing golf in the rain and then he gets struck by lightning.
• 2:38:38
  [UNKNOWN]: In the same boat bro, that's a left arm got left arm struck by lightning.
• 2:38:45
  [UNKNOWN]: This is what it looks like
• 2:38:51
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if you careful with who you laugh up laugh at don't laugh at me or else you're going to get iced up next.
• 2:38:57
  [UNKNOWN]: I hope I don't get struck by lightning and my name's Tony done that's C.K.
• 2:39:02
  [UNKNOWN]: Down to the bottom.
• 2:39:04
  [UNKNOWN]: That's Cody the man last night at the top Cody.
• 2:39:08
  [UNKNOWN]: It's the C3 Panthers podcast where here every Tuesday night.
• 2:39:12
  [UNKNOWN]: And we're here on Fridays and guess what football is about to be here will be here after the game.
• 2:39:18
  [UNKNOWN]: Take us out of here, my friend.
• 2:39:20
  [UNKNOWN]: See you through the legends.
• 2:39:21
  [UNKNOWN]: Love y'all.
• 2:39:22
  [UNKNOWN]: Keep an eye out there.