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“SCOTUS Hands Trump a Mail-In Ballot Win” · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: Tonight, the Trump administration moves to pull the visas up
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Speaker 1: to 200,000 foreigners who used a tourist stamp to game
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Speaker 1: the asylum system, the largest visa revocation in the history
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Speaker 1: of this country. And President Trump's economic war has Iran
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Speaker 1: on the ropes. But tonight, China is stepping in to
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Speaker 1: keep the regime alive. More on that later, but first.
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Speaker 1: A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY. TONIGHT, THE U.S. SUPREME
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Speaker 1: COURT HAS CLEARED THE WAY FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP TO START
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Speaker 1: FIXING THE WAY AMERICA VOTES BY MAIL. A BATTLE HE'S
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Speaker 1: BEEN FIGHTING FOR YEARS. HERE HE IS.
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Speaker 2: MAIL-IN BALLOTS ARE CORRUPT.
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Speaker 1: With the Save America Act stalled in the Senate and
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Speaker 1: blue states doubling down on mail voting, the president did
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Speaker 1: what he has had to do again and again. Well,
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Speaker 1: he moved to fix the problem himself, so he signed
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Speaker 1: an executive order. On March 31st, it was the centerpiece
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Speaker 1: of his election integrity agenda. And before the ink was dry,
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Speaker 1: the left already moved to kill it. Democrat-run states in
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Speaker 1: a parade of activist groups filed lawsuits. An Obama-appointed federal
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Speaker 1: judge in Boston tried to block the executive order for
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Speaker 1: a few dozen states, and then the rest of the country...
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what President Trump's executive order does.
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Speaker 1: It does three concrete things. First, it directs the Department
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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security to build a list of Americans who
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Speaker 1: are actually eligible to vote and then share it with
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Speaker 1: the state. Second, it lets the attorney general prosecute state
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Speaker 1: officials who mail ballots to people who are not eligible
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Speaker 1: to receive them. Well, yeah, that seems obvious. And third,
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Speaker 1: it puts a name, an address, and a tracking barcode
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Speaker 1: on every mail ballot in the country. A verified list, accountability,
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Speaker 1: and a paper trail. All of that seems very common sense.
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Speaker 1: Why would the left block it? Well, yesterday, six justices,
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, in a 6-3 ruling, lifted the first
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Speaker 1: of those blocks, the injunction covering the Democrat states. The
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Speaker 1: courts didn't rule whether the order was legal or not.
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Speaker 1: It just ruled that the states lacked the standing to
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Speaker 1: bring their case when they did. And that separate nationwide freeze,
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Speaker 1: that's still in effect. And the fight is not over, though.
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Speaker 1: The door is now open. I imagine that freeze will
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Speaker 1: fall as well. And it comes on the heel of
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Speaker 1: that stinging defeat in front of this same court on
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Speaker 1: June 29th at Justice's ruled five to four, that states
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Speaker 1: can keep counting mail-in ballots that arrive days after the election,
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Speaker 1: so long as they're postmarked in time. Mississippi allows them
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Speaker 1: up to five days late, and Trump and the Republican
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Speaker 1: Party sued to stop it. Unfortunately, we lost, and in dissent,
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Speaker 1: Justin Kavanaugh laid out the exact danger. He says, if
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Speaker 1: the candidate winning on election night ends up losing days later,
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Speaker 1: once the late mail ballots roll in, then, he says, quote,
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Speaker 1: charges of a rigged election could explode. So why does
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Speaker 1: one side fight so hard to keep the current system? Well,
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Speaker 1: consider where it all came from. Mail-in voting was once
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Speaker 1: a narrow exception for troops deployed overseas, for the sick,
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Speaker 1: for the people who genuinely couldn't reach the polls. Then 2020.
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Speaker 1: Who can forget 2020? And the pandemic blew it wide open.
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Speaker 1: States like California went to universal mail voting. Every registered
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Speaker 1: voter automatically mailed a ballot. Now, when the emergency ended, well,
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Speaker 1: they made the mail-in ballots permanent. Of course they did.
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Speaker 1: It helped them. Democrats say it's about access and convenience.
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Speaker 1: They say the president's order disenfranchises voters and violates the
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Speaker 1: state's constitutional power to run their own elections. Justices Sotomayor
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Speaker 1: and Jackson dissent called it blatantly unconstitutional. Now, that's their take,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think any of us are buying it.
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Speaker 1: We all know why the Democrats love mail-in voting. Now,
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Speaker 1: here's the case in point. California, roughly 80% of the
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Speaker 1: vote is cast by mail. 13 million of the state's
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Speaker 1: 16 million ballots in 2024. The state counts them for
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Speaker 1: at least a full seven days, although I think they're
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Speaker 1: still counting ballots from the mayor's election. So there's no
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Speaker 1: more election night in California. The counting drags on for days,
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Speaker 1: sometimes weeks, sometimes months. And the results, well, you saw
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Speaker 1: what happened this past June, the Los Angeles mayor's race.
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Speaker 1: The Republican candidate led on election night, Spencer Pratt. He
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Speaker 1: watched his lead vanish. The race called for the progressive
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Speaker 1: Nithya Raman, as wave after wave of late mail ballots
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Speaker 1: came in and disproportionately benefited her. Now, of course, we
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Speaker 1: can't look into that state and figure out what's wrong
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Speaker 1: because basically they legalized all the potential for fraud, so
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Speaker 1: we can't say that there's fraud. But that's precisely what
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Speaker 1: Justice Kavanaugh warned about. Now, it's built into the machine
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Speaker 1: in California, and a flood of loose ballots plus slow
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Speaker 1: counting opens the door for abuse. Not in theory. We've
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Speaker 1: seen this happen. In New Jersey, Democratic operative Craig Calloway
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Speaker 1: was sentenced last year to two years in federal prison
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Speaker 1: for a scheme to harvest and forge mail-in ballots. In Bridgeport, Connecticut,
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Speaker 1: a judge threw out a Democratic primary and ordered it
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Speaker 1: rerun after absentee ballot stuffing was caught on surveillance video.
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Speaker 1: Four states, Alabama, Ohio, Virginia, and Oregon, found thousands of
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Speaker 1: non-citizens on their voter rolls heading into the last election
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Speaker 1: and moved to strike them. In Michigan, a Chinese national registered,
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Speaker 1: cast a ballot, and fled the country. Convictions and court findings,
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Speaker 1: not social media posts. This is actual evidence that the
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Speaker 1: Democrats claim doesn't exist. And it's not isolated. Nearly every
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Speaker 1: time a state actually audits its rolls, It finds the
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Speaker 1: same thing. Louisiana turned up almost 400 non-citizens registered to vote,
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Speaker 1: dozens of whom had already cast their ballots. Iowa flagged
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Speaker 1: more than 270, 35 of whom voted in the last election.
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Speaker 1: The federal government has now opened its own citizenship database
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Speaker 1: to the states for exactly this purpose. And where states
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Speaker 1: have run their roles against it, well, they keep turning
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Speaker 1: up names that never should have been there. The only
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Speaker 1: reason The only reason we know is that somebody finally
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Speaker 1: went looking, and that is precisely what the president's order
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Speaker 1: forces every state checking its list against real federal citizenship
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Speaker 1: data before a single ballot goes in the mail. This
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Speaker 1: is the same fight behind the SAVE Act, the Republican
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Speaker 1: bill requiring proof of citizenship and a photo ID to vote,
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Speaker 1: passed by the House and stalled in the Senate. We
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Speaker 1: show a photo ID to board a plane, to buy
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Speaker 1: a beer, to pick up a package at the counter,
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Speaker 1: The president's order and that bill ask one simple thing.
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Speaker 1: Before this country hands you a ballot, can we confirm
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Speaker 1: that you are who you say you are and that
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Speaker 1: you are legally allowed to vote? That's the whole fight.
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Speaker 1: Not who you vote for, but whether the person casting
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Speaker 1: the ballot is real, is eligible, and is counted before
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Speaker 1: the winner has already effectively been chosen. For years, they've
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Speaker 1: called that a conspiracy. Yesterday, the Supreme Court called it
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Speaker 1: a fair question. And this country is slowly, finally moving
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Speaker 1: towards the answer to the only question that actually matters.
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Speaker 1: Who is voting? Still ahead, President Trump doubles his tariffs
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Speaker 1: on Canada, and every other network says it's going to
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Speaker 1: cost you. I don't believe it. Businessman Grant Cardone is
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Speaker 1: here to do the honest math. Then, the biggest visa
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Speaker 1: revocation in American history, the asylum loophole closed, and Trump's
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Speaker 1: economic war on Iran is working, with one giant exception, China.
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Speaker 1: Last night, we talked about the free ride being over
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump had finally forced Canada to pay its
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Speaker 1: fair share, and they were having a hissy fit about it. Tonight,
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Speaker 1: we're going to dive deep into what this trade war
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Speaker 1: with Canada means to you, and it's not a lot.
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Speaker 1: As of Saturday, a 50% tariff is in effect on
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Speaker 1: $ 20 billion of Canadian goods. On Monday, the president went further,
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Speaker 1: saying in January, the tariff on every Canadian car, every truck,
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Speaker 1: and every slab of steel also doubles to 50%. Canada
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Speaker 1: is firing back on September 8th with what they're calling
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Speaker 1: dollar for dollar retaliation. And through all of it, one
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Speaker 1: fact keeps getting blurred, Canada could have avoided all of this,
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Speaker 1: all of it. They were handed a deal. Here's the
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Speaker 1: president's top trade negotiator.
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Speaker 4: They've always had the best deal and they still would
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Speaker 4: have an even better deal, but they didn't want that.
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Speaker 1: They did have the best deal and they would have
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Speaker 1: had an even better one and they walked away. To
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Speaker 1: say it's to protect our own tariff walls against American workers.
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Speaker 1: I think Carney just wants his moment in the spotlight.
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Speaker 1: So next time Canada tells you that Donald Trump attacked them,
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Speaker 1: just remember he offered to cut their tariffs and they
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Speaker 1: said no. Will these tariffs touch some prices over time?
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Speaker 1: Maybe if this keeps escalating on cars because our automakers
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Speaker 1: run parts through Canada and on lumber because some of
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Speaker 1: our wood comes from the north. But the fear mongers
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Speaker 1: leave out the rest of the story. Now, right now,
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Speaker 1: the hit is small. The tariffs cover a sliver of
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Speaker 1: what we buy from Canada. And the big ticket items
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Speaker 1: are oil, natural gas, fertilizer. They're all carved out and exempt.
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Speaker 1: Economists at Duke University even said, considering the amount of
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Speaker 1: trade involved, the impact on consumers would be very moderate
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Speaker 1: at most. In the short term, you won't even feel it.
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Speaker 1: And even if you did, This is a bill worth
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Speaker 1: paying because for 50 years, Canada freeloaded off the American
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Speaker 1: military while walling American farmers out of their market with
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Speaker 1: tariffs that run as high as 300% once a quota
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Speaker 1: is met. Trump is the first president with the spine
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Speaker 1: to stand up and say, it's over, enough is enough.
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Speaker 1: We're going to bring our production home, we're going to
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Speaker 1: protect American jobs, and we're going to make Canada pay
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Speaker 1: their fair share and trade freely. Now, why is America
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Speaker 1: being painted as a bad guy? Because we're demanding the
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Speaker 1: same treatment as we've offered to Canada. Not a big deal, right?
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Speaker 1: Joining us now for the Cardone Zone, it's Grant Cardone,
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Speaker 1: CEO of Cardone Capital. Welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time. Look,
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Speaker 1: everybody's getting upset about tariffs. I think, well, all those
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Speaker 1: MAGA Republicans are excited about it. Canada has been really
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Speaker 1: having a bad deal with the United States for a
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Speaker 1: long time. We're just even in the playing field. But
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Speaker 1: how is this actually going to affect the consumer? Because,
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Speaker 1: of course, the fake news is out there telling everybody, oh,
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Speaker 1: everything's going to get expensive, your cars, your maple syrup,
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Speaker 1: your hockey sticks. Is this really a big deal for America,
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Speaker 1: or is this a good thing?
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Speaker 5: Well, look, I mean, the Canadian people, I love you guys.
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Speaker 5: You're phenomenal. But if it was not for America, you
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Speaker 5: wouldn't even have an economy. Like, you're so dependent upon
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Speaker 5: the U.S. economy. Bad on you, by the way. I mean,
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Speaker 5: the message here is don't be dependent upon another country.
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Speaker 5: In the case of Canada, you will always be dependent
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Speaker 5: upon the United States of America because we don't actually
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Speaker 5: need your goods and services. We don't need your lumber.
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Speaker 5: We have plenty of our own. We're just buying it
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Speaker 5: because we're being nice guys. We don't need your milk.
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Speaker 5: We don't need your cheese. We do not need your
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Speaker 5: maple syrup. Any of it that we're getting from you
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Speaker 5: is only because we want to get it from you
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Speaker 5: and we want to help you. So don't, what's the
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Speaker 5: old adage about don't kick a horse in the teeth
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Speaker 5: or something? I don't know. Like, be grateful, bro. Be grateful.
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Speaker 5: Be grateful you're getting what you're getting. We owe you nothing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's several phrases. I think one is
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Speaker 1: don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Don't bite
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Speaker 1: a hand. There's a don't bite a hand that feeds you.
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Speaker 1: But then there's another horse thing, like don't beat a
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Speaker 1: dead horse or something. There's a lot of horse analogies.
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Speaker 1: But either way, the point remains. Yes. Look, we love Canada.
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Speaker 1: They're an ally. They're our neighbors to the north. We
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Speaker 1: do a lot of business together. We share a lot
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Speaker 1: of entertainment. We share a lot of things, a lot
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Speaker 1: of culture, a lot of shared history. But the reality
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Speaker 1: is just because America is wealthy and further to the south,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that we have an obligation to support
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Speaker 1: Canada indefinitely. They don't have to pay their fair share
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Speaker 1: to NATO. They can charge our farmers when we send,
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Speaker 1: after a quota, a certain WE DON'T NEED YOUR GOODS
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Speaker 1: AND SERVICES, PERIOD, FULL STOP. WE DON'T NEED THEM AND
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Speaker 1: WE BUY THEM. WE HAVE PLENTY OF LUMBER IN THIS COUNTRY.
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Speaker 1: 80% OF THE SOFT LUMBER IN THIS COUNTRY IS PRODUCED
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Speaker 1: IN AMERICA.
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Speaker 5: I think they're down to 20 or 25% that we
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Speaker 5: take from them. And we don't even need that. We
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Speaker 5: need none of it. We have plenty of timber. All
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Speaker 5: our hardwood comes from Brazil, which we do need here.
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Speaker 5: We import that. But, you know, dude, I don't need
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Speaker 5: your hockey sticks. We can buy them from China.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Like, if you took Canada, David, you probably know this,
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Speaker 5: but if you took Canada and you took their economy...
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Speaker 5: And combined with all the 50 states in this country,
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Speaker 5: they would be, now we have 51 states, they would
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Speaker 5: be 50 of 51. Only Mississippi has a lower economic
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Speaker 5: GDP than the entire country of Canada.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they're acting like they're going to go
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Speaker 1: make friends with China. They're going to try to sell
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Speaker 1: to the EU. They're trying to make it as if, like,
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Speaker 1: they have this great product to offer. I think, honestly,
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Speaker 1: this is just an ego play for Carney. But even
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Speaker 1: people like this guy Ford, have you seen this guy?
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Speaker 1: He's out there making threats. Check this out. I have Assad.
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Speaker 1: I'll get your reaction to it. Check it out.
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Speaker 3: I have a lot of real estate on my ass,
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Speaker 3: so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass.
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Speaker 1: This is the tough talk coming out of Canada. Like,
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Speaker 1: this is the way they're talking to President Trump. You're
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Speaker 1: exactly right. The GDP is insignificant to us. They buy,
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Speaker 1: I think it's something around 25% of the stuff comes
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Speaker 1: from the United States versus, like, 3% we get from them.
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Speaker 1: This is exactly what you're saying, right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just saying, like, that guy shouldn't bring up housing. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 5: Like, the one topic that cat should not ever bring
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Speaker 5: up is housing. Canada has a housing problem so big...
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Speaker 5: It doesn't even compare to any problems in America. They
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Speaker 5: have probably the greatest housing correction on planet Earth today
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Speaker 5: because all their loans are due on their 30-year mortgages
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Speaker 5: because they don't allow long-term mortgage there. So they have
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Speaker 5: so many problems there. It's unbelievable. If you just chat
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Speaker 5: GPT or take any AI tool and ask, do we
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Speaker 5: need anything from Canada? The answer is no. We need nothing.
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Speaker 5: Nothing they have do we need to buy. And we do.
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Speaker 5: And that's why Trump has suggested you guys should just
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Speaker 5: become the 51st state.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think, and obviously these additions..
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Speaker 5: We wouldn't have a Canadian dollar. They wouldn't have to
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Speaker 5: print a Canadian dollar anymore. It'd be U.S.
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Speaker 1: Dollars, bro.
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Speaker 5: We wouldn't need a border. We wouldn't need a border.
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Speaker 5: By the way, their military now would become our military.
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Speaker 5: We'd have $ 1. We'd all be a... YOU KNOW, THEY
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Speaker 5: COULD EVEN START SOUNDING LIKE US. AND MAYBE THAT NICE
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Speaker 5: THING THEY DO IN CANADA WOULD RUB OFF ON AMERICANS
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Speaker 5: AND WE'D GET NICE TOO.
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Speaker 1: I DON'T KNOW. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN SO NICE TO ME
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Speaker 1: ON SOCIAL MEDIA IN MY VARIOUS POSTS IN SUPPORT OF
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Speaker 1: PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THIS. BUT THEY DO ATTACK YOU IN
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Speaker 1: A VERY POLITE WAY. BUT I'LL SAY THIS. AND LOOK,
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Speaker 1: THE RETALIATORY until September 8th. They're really not going to
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Speaker 1: matter too much to the American people. It would take
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Speaker 1: six months before we feel anything. It would be minimal.
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Speaker 1: But then these other tariffs that Trump set on cars
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Speaker 1: and steel and all this stuff, that's not until January
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Speaker 1: of next year. So I think they're going to work
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Speaker 1: out a deal. I think there's a lot of posturing.
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Speaker 1: We're only talking about maybe... what, 40% or $ 40 billion
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Speaker 1: in trade that we're tariffing at this point. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's just posturing. I think Carney's going to look
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Speaker 1: like a fool. Trump is going to win at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day. The media, though, Grant, I think
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Speaker 1: they're going to take this and try to spin a
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Speaker 1: narrative up and make it seem as this, oh, see,
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Speaker 1: things are more expensive because of this war with Canada.
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Speaker 1: This war with Canada isn't a war. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's the point here, right?
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Look, Trump has used tariffs as a stick the
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Speaker 5: entire time. He never actually intends to use tariffs anymore.
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Speaker 5: They're not going to be imposed by anybody, by the way.
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Speaker 5: Don't tell anybody. He's using it as a stick to
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Speaker 5: bring people to the table to get what he wants.
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Speaker 5: And unfortunately, most Americans and certainly the media has never
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Speaker 5: been involved in high stakes negotiations. Sometimes you use a stick.
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Speaker 5: Sometimes you use a carrot. Sometimes you use both until
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Speaker 5: you get what you need and have to have for
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Speaker 5: the deal you're trying to make. And the deal should
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Speaker 5: be a win win. And Trump will get a win win.
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Speaker 5: If he doesn't get it, by the way, he's going
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Speaker 5: to set up the next administration for a super win
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Speaker 5: because he's just beating them up until they get to
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Speaker 5: the table and we can get them to at least
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Speaker 5: compromise some of their positions.
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Grant Cardone, the Cardone zone is quickly
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Speaker 1: becoming my favorite segment. I'm getting a lot of really
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Speaker 1: good audience feedback, too. They love when you come on.
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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here, my friend. Awesome, man.
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Speaker 5: I hope I don't lose any Canadians for you tonight.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I probably already lost a few myself. We'll see.
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Speaker 5: Take care.
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Speaker 1: Really had to nerve to talk about it. You fly
20:03
Speaker 1: into the United States on a tourist visa or a
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Speaker 1: business visa, a document that exists for one purpose, to
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Speaker 1: let you visit, but then go home. But you don't
20:16
Speaker 1: go home. That's the problem. The moment your feet hit
20:19
Speaker 1: the tarmac, you go, hey, I need asylum. I'm not
20:22
Speaker 1: just here for vacation. Just kidding. And suddenly, you're entitled
20:26
Speaker 1: to stay for years, sometimes a decade, while a hopelessly
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Speaker 1: backlogged system sorts out a claim that was never real
20:33
Speaker 1: to begin with. Tonight, that scam, well, it's ending. The
20:37
Speaker 1: Trump administration is preparing the single largest visa refigation in
20:41
Speaker 1: the history of this country. Up to 200,000 tourists and
20:45
Speaker 1: business visas, every one of them held by somebody who
20:48
Speaker 1: came here as a visitor and then filed for asylum
20:51
Speaker 1: to stay forever. Well, they're being pulled, canceled, revoked, out
20:54
Speaker 1: of here! It won't happen in one dramatic sweep. The
20:58
Speaker 1: State Department is working through the list in waves. But
21:01
Speaker 1: when it's done, it'll be the biggest housecleaning of visa
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Speaker 1: fraud this country has ever seen. And yes, it is fraud.
21:09
Speaker 1: A tourist visa is issued on one condition, that you
21:12
Speaker 1: come and then you leave. So when the State Department
21:16
Speaker 1: looked at the people who took those visas and ultimately
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Speaker 1: filed for asylum, some instances right when they got here,
21:22
Speaker 1: The State Department spokesman put it bluntly. Obtaining a visa
21:25
Speaker 1: for the purpose of seeking asylum is fraud. Not a loophole.
21:30
Speaker 1: It's not a technicality. It's fraud because in the United
21:33
Speaker 1: States of America, a visa is a privilege. It's not
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Speaker 1: a right. And this is on top of what they've
21:39
Speaker 1: already done in just 18 months. The State Department has
21:41
Speaker 1: already revoked around 175,000 other visas from foreign nationals who
21:46
Speaker 1: committed crimes on our soil. Everything from drunk driving to assault,
21:50
Speaker 1: child abuse. They add the 200,000 now on the way.
21:53
Speaker 1: And you're looking at the most aggressive enforcement of American
21:56
Speaker 1: immigration law in a generation. It's what we asked for. Now,
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Speaker 1: what this does and what it doesn't do, pulling a
22:03
Speaker 1: visa doesn't automatically put anyone on an airplane. Most of
22:06
Speaker 1: these asylum cases will keep grinding through the courts until
22:09
Speaker 1: they find whatever status they're supposed to be in. Now, look,
22:13
Speaker 1: the open borders crowd, they're lining up their lawyers, and
22:16
Speaker 1: they want to fight, too.
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Speaker 2: Why not?
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Speaker 1: Let's let everybody stay in the country, right? That's what
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Speaker 1: they love, not us. But that misses the entire point.
22:23
Speaker 1: For the very first time, flying in on a tourist
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Speaker 1: visa and then gaming the asylum system, it carries an
22:29
Speaker 1: actual consequence. The door that was propped wide open for decades,
22:32
Speaker 1: it's finally slamming shut. Joining me now for reaction is
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Speaker 1: Frank DeVito, author and senior counsel at Napa Legal Institute.
22:40
Speaker 1: Welcome to the David Pollak Prime Time. Look, I think
22:43
Speaker 1: a lot of people, when they think of illegal immigration
22:45
Speaker 1: or they think of people overstaying visas, or they think
22:48
Speaker 1: of the immigration problem, we think of the border, right?
22:50
Speaker 1: We think of people coming across and then applying for asylum.
22:53
Speaker 1: But some folks just fly here and stay, and this
22:56
Speaker 1: is addressing that issue. What do you think of this move?
22:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, this move in particular, first of all, thank
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Speaker 6: you for having me. And I will just say from
23:04
Speaker 6: the outset, I voted for this. Just want to put
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Speaker 6: that out there. But the story itself should really not
23:10
Speaker 6: be a story. And I'm not an immigration lawyer, but
23:12
Speaker 6: I am a lawyer, and I know how to read
23:14
Speaker 6: basic laws and facts. And The reality is, like you
23:17
Speaker 6: just said a moment ago, the visa program, right, B1s
23:22
Speaker 6: are for tourists, B2s are for business trips. Asylum is
23:27
Speaker 6: a different thing. If you are a visa holder, you're saying,
23:30
Speaker 6: I'm coming here temporarily for a purpose and then I'm leaving.
23:33
Speaker 6: If you're an asylum seeker, you're saying, I'm not safe
23:36
Speaker 6: in my country of origin. I don't want to leave.
23:38
Speaker 6: Those are two different things. And I did a little
23:40
Speaker 6: poking around that if you look at the State Department website,
23:44
Speaker 6: but even immigration law websites who are counseling people through
23:47
Speaker 6: this process, and we can get into how messed up
23:49
Speaker 6: the process is. But they'll tell you right up front,
23:51
Speaker 6: if you come in on a visa and then you
23:53
Speaker 6: apply for asylum, you may very well lose your visa
23:56
Speaker 6: because you're saying that your reason for being here is different. So, sorry,
23:59
Speaker 6: this should be a non-story. What the open borders folks
24:01
Speaker 6: don't like is just the fact that this is a
24:03
Speaker 6: large number. But this should be pretty uncontroversial and.
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Speaker 5: By the book.
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Speaker 1: It all should be uncontroversial and by the book. I mean,
24:12
Speaker 1: the entire immigration crisis is common sense. We have a border.
24:18
Speaker 1: AND YOU COME IN ILLEGALLY, YOU SHOULD BE SENT BACK OUT.
24:21
Speaker 1: AND THEN FOR SOME REASON, WE HAVE A WHOLE GROUP
24:24
Speaker 1: OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY, ALTHOUGH I THINK IT'S A
24:25
Speaker 1: SMALL GROUP BASED ON THE PAST ELECTION, THAT THINK THAT, OH, WELL,
24:29
Speaker 1: WE SHOULDN'T HAVE A BORDER. ALL PEOPLE ARE WELCOME HERE.
24:34
Speaker 1: People should come here illegally or legally and just stay.
24:38
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, most people think
24:41
Speaker 1: it's perfectly reasonable that if you don't have a reason
24:44
Speaker 1: to be in this country, if you say you're here
24:46
Speaker 1: on vacation, if you say you're here for work, and
24:48
Speaker 1: then you get here and you're like, ah, just kidding.
24:50
Speaker 1: I'm here because I'm afraid of my country. Or you
24:53
Speaker 1: come across the border illegally and then you get apprehended
24:55
Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, no, no, I can't go back.
24:57
Speaker 1: WE KNOW WHAT THIS IS. IN MOST OF THESE INSTANCES,
25:00
Speaker 1: VERY FEW OF THESE ASYLUM CLAIMS ARE ACTUALLY GRANTED. WHAT
25:04
Speaker 1: THIS IS IS A WAY FOR THESE FOLKS TO TRY
25:06
Speaker 1: TO JUMP TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE BECAUSE THEY
25:08
Speaker 1: DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. WE WANT
25:14
Speaker 1: PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY WHO FOLLOW THE RULES, WHO APPLY.
25:16
Speaker 1: SO MANY LAW-ABIDING VISITORS TO THIS COUNTRY KNOW THAT THEIR
25:19
Speaker 1: VISAS ARE EXPIRING. THEY GO BACK HOME AND THEY'LL APPLY
25:22
Speaker 1: FOR A NEW ONE. THEY DON'T SIMPLY GO, I'M NOT
25:25
Speaker 1: GOING TO LEAVE AND I'M GOING TO TRY TO BREAK
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Speaker 1: THE RULES IN ORDER TO STAY. THAT'S EXACTLY THE WRONG
25:29
Speaker 1: PEOPLE WE DON'T WANT HERE, RIGHT?
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Speaker 2: YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
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Speaker 6: WELL, THERE ARE TWO MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE ASYLUM WHOLE PROCESS,
25:36
Speaker 6: ESPECIALLY THE WAY IT WAS ADMINISTERED UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, RIGHT?
25:41
Speaker 5: We don't have exact numbers.
25:42
Speaker 6: Because they're everywhere, but there are tons of them. Asylum
25:45
Speaker 6: is something very particular, and you know this. If you're
25:48
Speaker 6: facing direct threats of serious violence, threats in your home country,
25:53
Speaker 6: and it's specifically targeted at you, that's an asylum claim.
25:57
Speaker 6: if you are afraid of or don't like general conditions
26:01
Speaker 6: of poverty or even like civil war or high crime
26:04
Speaker 6: in your home country, those general conditions are not grounds
26:07
Speaker 6: for asylum. So problem one is my guess is that
26:10
Speaker 6: most of the people who are applying for asylum are
26:13
Speaker 6: using it to get in here. They're not valid asylum claims.
26:15
Speaker 6: But then the other problem is What are we doing?
26:18
Speaker 6: If these are asylum seekers coming from outside the country
26:20
Speaker 6: into the country, you hold them, right? We have this
26:23
Speaker 6: huge backlog of cases. But what was going on under
26:25
Speaker 6: Biden is catch and release. Like, OK, you have an
26:27
Speaker 6: asylum claim. We'll hear it someday when our courts can
26:31
Speaker 6: catch up. And in the meantime, what, have fun gallivanting
26:34
Speaker 6: around without legal status in the country? People should either
26:37
Speaker 6: be outside the country or they should be detained because
26:40
Speaker 6: they have no right to be here until the asylum
26:42
Speaker 6: claim is actually heard.
26:43
Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's actually really interesting because you mentioned
26:47
Speaker 1: the fact that earlier you said that if they file
26:51
Speaker 1: for asylum when they're on the visa, they should have
26:52
Speaker 1: the visa revoked. And that's important because the visa grants
26:55
Speaker 1: them a legal status in the country while they're here.
26:57
Speaker 1: So like and to break it down for the audience,
27:00
Speaker 1: a visa is basically your permission to be in a country.
27:03
Speaker 1: You know, when you go and travel internationally, you're granted
27:05
Speaker 1: a visa, sometimes automatically. Sometimes you have to apply for it.
27:09
Speaker 1: SO WHEN YOU COME TO THIS COUNTRY FROM CERTAIN COUNTRIES,
27:10
Speaker 1: YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY, OR YOU APPLY FOR THIS VISA. I'M HERE
27:13
Speaker 1: ON VACATION. I'M GOING TO THE GRAND CANYON WITH MY FAMILY.
27:16
Speaker 1: I'M GOING TO GO LOOK AROUND. I'M FROM SOME FOREIGN COUNTRY.
27:18
Speaker 1: I'M GOING TO THIS PLACE. BUT THAT VISA HAS A
27:22
Speaker 1: TIMELINE ON IT AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE WHEN THAT
27:24
Speaker 1: VISA EXPIRES. AND SO WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID
27:27
Speaker 1: IS IF YOU, IF THEY CLAIM ASYLUM WHEN THEY GET
27:29
Speaker 1: HERE AND YOU REVOKE THAT VISA, WELL, OUR LAW REQUIRES
27:32
Speaker 1: THEM TO BE DETAINED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGAL
27:35
Speaker 1: RIGHT TO JUST WALK AROUND THE COUNTRY WHEN YOU'RE SEEKING ASYLUM.
27:39
Speaker 1: IN THIS COUNTRY, THE AUTOMATIC SORT OF PROCESS IS DETENTION.
27:44
Speaker 1: WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH DETENTION SPACE UNDER THE BIDEN
27:46
Speaker 1: YEARS WHICH IS WHY WE JUST LET HIM LOOSE BECAUSE
27:48
Speaker 1: HE WAS LETTING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE IN ON
27:50
Speaker 1: ASYLUM CLAIMS EVERY DAY. AND SO BUT NOW WE HAVE
27:53
Speaker 1: THE FACILITIES. SO, YES, IF YOU COME TO THIS COUNTRY
27:55
Speaker 1: AS A TOURIST OR A BUSINESS PERSON, And you're like, no,
27:58
Speaker 1: I want to claim asylum. You revoke that visa. No
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Speaker 1: longer are you granted permission to be here. And we'll
28:02
Speaker 1: put you in a dissenting center. How does that sound?
28:05
Speaker 1: That is such a that is the best way to
28:07
Speaker 1: possibly handle this. And for the people that are on visas, yes,
28:09
Speaker 1: let's revoke them. Let's either put them in detention or
28:12
Speaker 1: send them home. The one last thing and I want
28:13
Speaker 1: to throw it back to you is they had to
28:16
Speaker 1: probably connect in an airport somewhere. They had to get
28:19
Speaker 1: to the airport there. Who knows where some of these
28:21
Speaker 1: people are coming from? YOU HAVE TO CLAIM ASYLUM IN
28:25
Speaker 1: THE FIRST COUNTRY YOU GET TO OUTSIDE OF YOUR COUNTRY.
28:27
Speaker 1: THESE FOLKS ARE WAITING UNTIL THEY GET TO THE UNITED
28:29
Speaker 1: STATES TO CLAIM ASYLUM.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, of course.
28:34
Speaker 6: I mean, if you're coming from a third world country,
28:36
Speaker 6: you don't want to claim asylum in a safer third
28:38
Speaker 6: world country. You want to come to America. So I
28:40
Speaker 6: have nothing but appreciation for the hard life that a
28:44
Speaker 6: lot of these people live in.
28:45
Speaker 2: It's not their fault.
28:46
Speaker 6: If our government doesn't take responsibility for enforcing its own
28:49
Speaker 6: laws and its own border, they're just being opportunists to
28:52
Speaker 6: come into the greatest country in the world.
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Speaker 5: Why not?
28:54
Speaker 2: But you're right.
28:55
Speaker 6: These visas are temporary. By definition, if you're claiming asylum,
28:59
Speaker 6: you're saying, I want to be here permanently. That is
29:00
Speaker 6: not temporary. these should be gone. This is not the
29:04
Speaker 6: president overstepping Congress. This is my understanding of what the
29:07
Speaker 6: immigration laws require. If you're not here temporarily, you don't
29:10
Speaker 6: get a temporary visa. You go into the asylum process.
29:13
Speaker 6: So I don't really understand what all the to-do is about,
29:15
Speaker 6: except that any attempt by the president to enforce immigration
29:18
Speaker 6: law has to be looked at as the biggest threat
29:20
Speaker 6: that the left has ever seen. I can't come up
29:22
Speaker 6: with any better reason why this is even a news story, frankly.
29:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you're exactly right. And just like the State
29:28
Speaker 1: Department says, this is a fraud. because you came here
29:30
Speaker 1: with the intent to actually claim asylum and you pretended
29:33
Speaker 1: to be coming here for business or vacation. It's fraud.
29:36
Speaker 1: And again, if your first introduction to the people of
29:39
Speaker 1: America is, I don't actually want to follow your rules,
29:42
Speaker 1: I'm going to go jump to the front of the
29:43
Speaker 1: line and break your rules, I'd say you can turn
29:45
Speaker 1: around and go back home. We don't need you here.
29:47
Speaker 1: These aren't the kind of people we want to welcome
29:48
Speaker 1: to this country, people who want to break our rules.
29:50
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here and giving us
29:52
Speaker 1: your great take on this, my friend. Thank you, David.
29:54
Speaker 7: Anytime.
29:55
Speaker 1: When we come back, Pakistan says it's brokering a ceasefire
30:00
Speaker 1: in Trump's war with Iran, even as China openly defies
30:04
Speaker 1: American sanctions to keep the regime afloat. Retired Major General
30:08
Speaker 1: John King joins us to break down the standoff. And later,
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30:15
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31:06
Speaker 1: There's been some movement tonight in America's war with Iran. Pakistan,
31:10
Speaker 1: the country that's been quietly in the middle of this
31:13
Speaker 1: entire conflict, they just sent its army chief field marshal,
31:17
Speaker 1: Asim Muneer, into Tehran to see if it can bring
31:21
Speaker 1: the two sides back to the negotiation table. And late today,
31:24
Speaker 1: Islamabad announced it had made, in its own words, significant
31:27
Speaker 1: progress towards reviving a ceasefire. Now, if you ask me,
31:31
Speaker 1: Iran is probably running out of options after the U.S.
31:34
Speaker 1: launch the most crushing economic operation this country has ever
31:38
Speaker 1: aimed at an adversary built to strangle Iran until it
31:41
Speaker 1: either signs a deal or comes apart at the seams.
31:45
Speaker 1: But there's one country standing in the way, propping up Iran,
31:50
Speaker 1: buying its oil, moving its money, and openly defying American sanctions, China.
31:58
Speaker 1: Here's China's foreign ministry today.
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Speaker 8: China has made clear on many occasions its firm opposition
32:04
Speaker 8: to illicit unilateral sanctions that have no basis in international
32:08
Speaker 8: law or the authorization of the UN Security Council. China
32:12
Speaker 8: will take all necessary measures to firmly safeguard its own
32:16
Speaker 8: rights and interests.
32:17
Speaker 1: That means China will keep buying Iranian oil. It refuses
32:22
Speaker 1: to comply with American sanctions and is now threatening to
32:25
Speaker 1: retaliate against the United States for so much as asking
32:28
Speaker 1: them to just give us some time. This is the
32:31
Speaker 1: government single-handedly keeping the Iranian regime solvent, and every day
32:35
Speaker 1: it does. Iran has one less reason to ever sign
32:38
Speaker 1: Pakistan's peace deal. Now, China is, by a wide margin,
32:43
Speaker 1: the number one buyer of Iranian oil on Earth, which
32:45
Speaker 1: is why it's important to stop Iran's ghost fleet of
32:48
Speaker 1: tankers heading to supply the oil. We already stopped the
32:52
Speaker 1: ghost ships from Venezuela. Iran is next. Making matters worse,
32:55
Speaker 1: Beijing has now ordered its companies to ignore American sanctions outright.
33:01
Speaker 1: So to stop Iran, we must stop China. And just
33:05
Speaker 1: this week, His administration slapped fresh sanctions on Chinese companies,
33:10
Speaker 1: feeding the Iranian oil machine. And when the Treasury Secretary
33:14
Speaker 1: was asked point blank whether Chinese banks were next, he
33:19
Speaker 1: didn't flinch. No one, he said, no one is above
33:22
Speaker 1: the reach of U.S.
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Speaker 5: Sanctions.
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Speaker 1: That is a shot fired directly across the bow of
33:29
Speaker 1: one of the largest economies on Earth weeks before Trump
33:32
Speaker 1: is set to sit down across the table from Xi
33:35
Speaker 1: Jinping himself. NOW, JOINING ME NOW IS RETIRED U.S. ARMY
33:39
Speaker 1: MAJOR GENERAL JOHN KING. WELCOME BACK TO DAVID POLLACK PRIME TIME. NOW,
33:44
Speaker 1: THIS IS A BIG DEVELOPMENT, WHEREAS IRAN IS CLEARLY FILLING
33:49
Speaker 1: THE SQUEEZE. THE ONLY COUNTRY GIVING THEM A LIFELINE IS CHINA.
33:52
Speaker 1: WE MEET WITH CHINA IN TWO WEEKS. I MEAN, WHERE
33:56
Speaker 1: DOES THIS GO? IS CHINA TRYING TO MAYBE LEVERAGE FOR
33:59
Speaker 1: A BETTER DEAL WHEN THEY COME TO THE UNITED STATES?
34:01
Speaker 1: OR ARE THEY REALLY JUST GOING TO TRY TO FIGHT
34:03
Speaker 1: A PROXY WAR WITH US THROUGH IRAN AT THIS POINT?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, David. China is trying to work.
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Speaker 7: They're trying to get a better deal. For a communist regime,
34:15
Speaker 7: they are truly capitalists. And so they're trying to leverage
34:18
Speaker 7: every opportunity to get a better deal from the United States.
34:21
Speaker 7: We've given them access to Venezuelan oil. We've given them
34:25
Speaker 7: access to American oil. They need to choose whether they're
34:28
Speaker 7: going to prop up Iran or they're going to be
34:31
Speaker 7: part of the world order and participate in the world's economy.
34:35
Speaker 2: That's a simple choice.
34:36
Speaker 7: And I think our Secretary of Treasury has made it
34:39
Speaker 7: very clear to them what's at stake.
34:41
Speaker 1: So is it possible that we can offer China, and
34:46
Speaker 1: maybe this is what Trump's going to do in two weeks,
34:49
Speaker 1: when when Xi Jinping's in the United States for this meeting.
34:53
Speaker 1: But is it possible then we say, hey, look, we've
34:55
Speaker 1: got Venezuela flowing. The United States is producing plenty of oil.
34:59
Speaker 1: Why don't we give you a better deal than Iran
35:01
Speaker 1: could just leave us alone in Iran? And if that happens,
35:04
Speaker 1: that's pretty much the end of the fight for Iran, right?
35:07
Speaker 7: Well, I think we've already given them access to a stable,
35:10
Speaker 7: predictable oil supply. They're not getting that out of Iran.
35:14
Speaker 7: And remember, David, what happens when Iran changes their tune
35:17
Speaker 7: and they want to extort the Chinese government for better
35:20
Speaker 7: terms on their deal? They won't get that from the
35:23
Speaker 7: United States. We are a reliable, stable way to get
35:26
Speaker 7: their energy requirements into their country. And I think the
35:30
Speaker 7: Chinese are just playing a good game. They typically play
35:35
Speaker 7: and leverage every opportunity to get their better terms.
35:39
Speaker 2: So I'm not surprised by the Chinese doing this.
35:42
Speaker 1: So where do you see this going with Iran? I mean,
35:44
Speaker 1: we had the Connecticut operation. WE'VE DESTROYED A LOT OF
35:48
Speaker 1: THEIR MILITARY. I'M SURE THEY'RE QUIETLY TRYING TO REBUILD SOME
35:51
Speaker 1: OF THEIR ARSENAL, BUT THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE
35:53
Speaker 1: TO KEEP UP WITH ANY STRIKES WE'RE ABLE TO ADMINISTER
35:56
Speaker 1: ON THEM. PLUS, REMEMBER, WE HAD THAT CARRIER GROUP SWAP.
35:59
Speaker 1: SO NOW WE'RE LOCKED AND LOADED WITH FRESH CREW OUT
36:02
Speaker 1: THERE READY TO DO THE KINETIC PART OF THIS OPERATION AGAIN.
36:06
Speaker 1: ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO SEE HOW FAR THESE
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Speaker 1: ECONOMIC SANCTIONS, THIS ECONOMIC D-DAY WILL GO AGAINST IRAN IF
36:12
Speaker 1: IT DOESN'T DO THE TRICK? WE JUST HIT IT MILITARILY AGAIN?
36:17
Speaker 1: keeping the Strait of Hormuz open. What do you think
36:18
Speaker 1: the next play is here?
36:20
Speaker 7: Well, David, there's a number of things taking place. Not
36:23
Speaker 7: only do we control the Strait of Hormuz, now we
36:25
Speaker 7: have to keep an eye on the landlines. Obviously, Turkey
36:28
Speaker 7: and Pakistan are opportunities for that oil to get out
36:32
Speaker 7: of the country.
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Speaker 2: And we have to keep a very close eye.
36:35
Speaker 7: And that's that leverage. But none of that leverage matters
36:38
Speaker 7: unless we have the military forces capable to be able
36:42
Speaker 7: to push that button and reinforce military sanctions. None of
36:46
Speaker 7: this diplomacy is possible unless there's a military capable to
36:50
Speaker 7: be able to enforce that. And that is why always
36:53
Speaker 7: the military has to be part of this component. We
36:56
Speaker 7: all want diplomacy and economic pressures to play a key part.
37:00
Speaker 7: We want that to be the primary means to getting
37:04
Speaker 7: this conflict ended. But without the military being there and
37:07
Speaker 7: present to guarantee those negotiations taking place, it won't happen.
37:12
Speaker 1: Now, look, why this matters to Americans, mainly they're not
37:15
Speaker 1: for some reason worried about Iran having a nuclear weapon.
37:18
Speaker 1: A lot of Americans are not concerned about Iran's proxy
37:21
Speaker 1: terror war against the U.S. and its allies for the
37:24
Speaker 1: last 50 years. What a lot of Americans are looking
37:26
Speaker 1: at is the gas pump and saying, okay, this is
37:29
Speaker 1: how it affects me. And then a lot of people
37:31
Speaker 1: are saying, okay, well, this isn't good heading to the
37:33
Speaker 1: midterms if people are looking at that pump and putting
37:35
Speaker 1: Trump's sticker on there that says I did that. When
37:39
Speaker 1: do you think this conflict will resolve and do you
37:41
Speaker 1: think gas prices will fall before November? Because I think
37:45
Speaker 1: Iran is trying to wait us out just like we're
37:47
Speaker 1: trying to squeeze them, right?
37:49
Speaker 2: It's exactly what's going on.
37:51
Speaker 7: The Iranians know the midterms are in the center of
37:54
Speaker 7: all Americans' thoughts, and they're trying to.
37:57
Speaker 2: Squeeze every bit of advantage.
37:59
Speaker 7: It's not the president or the political leaders of Iran
38:02
Speaker 7: that are in the way.
38:03
Speaker 2: It's the RGC, which is.
38:05
Speaker 7: Fighting for survival. If they lose this leverage, they're gone.
38:11
Speaker 7: Their survival depends on it, and that's what they're digging in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's hope that happens. They're gone sooner rather
38:19
Speaker 1: than later. I do think the end of the conflict
38:21
Speaker 1: is coming. I don't think Iran wants a fresh wave
38:23
Speaker 1: of military attacks. I do believe the fact that if
38:26
Speaker 1: Pakistan is suggesting that a deal might be there, I
38:29
Speaker 1: have a feeling that Iran is like, hey, give us
38:31
Speaker 1: a lifeline and let us save face. And so we'll see.
38:34
Speaker 1: I think China's leveraging. I think Pakistan is showing that
38:36
Speaker 1: Iran's cards are on the table at this point. And
38:39
Speaker 1: I think President Trump has always wanted Iran to come
38:42
Speaker 1: to the table, and I think his economic D-Day is
38:44
Speaker 1: going to produce that exact result. We'll wait and see. General,
38:48
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your take on all of this.
38:50
Speaker 1: Look forward to having you back on again real soon,
38:52
Speaker 1: my friend.
38:53
Speaker 2: Thank you, David. Appreciate the opportunity.
38:55
Speaker 1: Thank you. Still ahead, Lindsay Clancy admits she killed her
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Speaker 1: Have you been following this Lindsay Clancy case? We spoke
40:50
Speaker 1: about it last week on the show. She's the woman
40:52
Speaker 1: who killed her three children and claimed she's not responsible
40:57
Speaker 1: because of postpartum depression. Well, the most disturbing thing about
41:03
Speaker 1: the Lindsay Clancy case isn't even what happened inside of
41:06
Speaker 1: that house back in January 2023. It's what's happening right now.
41:12
Speaker 1: I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS. I WANT TO TELL
41:14
Speaker 1: YOU THIS. THOUSANDS OF WOMEN HAVE COME RUSHING FORWARD TO
41:20
Speaker 1: DEFEND HER, TO RAISE MONEY FOR HER, TO FILM THEMSELVES
41:26
Speaker 1: CONFESSING THAT ABOUT THEIR OWN CHILDREN THAT THEY TOO HAVE
41:32
Speaker 1: HAD THOSE THOUGHTS. AND IT'S A TERRIFYING ILLNESS. A MOTHER
41:43
Speaker 1: TRULY LOSING HER GRIP ON REALITY DESERVES CARE AND COMPASSION.
41:47
Speaker 1: BUT A LOT OF WOMEN SUFFER FROM POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION. AND
41:51
Speaker 1: THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. WHAT WE'RE WATCHING IS A
41:55
Speaker 1: MOVEMENT THAT IS CELEBRATING A WOMAN WHO KILLED HER CHILDREN
41:59
Speaker 1: BECAUSE OF POSTPARTUM DEPRESSION. And that's just not normal. The
42:06
Speaker 1: facts aren't in dispute. In January of 2023, south of Boston,
42:10
Speaker 1: Lindsay Clancy strangled her three children, five-year-old Cora, three-year-old Dawson,
42:14
Speaker 1: and eight-month-old Callan. And then she threw herself from a
42:18
Speaker 1: second-story window in a failed attempt to take her own life.
42:22
Speaker 1: She just should have jumped off a 40-story building. She
42:25
Speaker 1: doesn't deny killing her kids. She's on trial for their murder.
42:30
Speaker 1: And she has pleaded not guilty, not because she didn't
42:33
Speaker 1: do it, but because she was insane. Her lawyers say
42:38
Speaker 1: she was consumed by postpartum psychosis worsened by a cocktail
42:43
Speaker 1: of 13 psychiatric drugs. Prosecutors tell a very different story
42:47
Speaker 1: that she acted deliberately. She texted her husband to go
42:51
Speaker 1: run errands so the house would be empty. That doesn't
42:54
Speaker 1: sound like a crazy person, does it? 12 jurors will
42:59
Speaker 1: ultimately decide the facts in this case. But out in
43:03
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion, the verdict was handed down
43:06
Speaker 1: long ago. There are fundraisers, there are rallies. The media
43:10
Speaker 1: coverage has been, by and large, one sympathy card at
43:13
Speaker 1: a time. Online, it has curdled into something alarming. Thousands
43:17
Speaker 1: of women filling themselves, admitting they, too, have looked at
43:21
Speaker 1: their own children and felt something dark stir. OTHERS HAVE
43:26
Speaker 1: ANNOUNCED AS THEY THOUGHT IT ENDS THE CONVERSATION THAT CLANCY
43:30
Speaker 1: PROVED POST PARTUM PSYCHOSIS WAS THE MOMENT SHE KILLED HER
43:34
Speaker 1: THREE KIDS. AT SOME POINT THE FINGER AT HER HUSBAND
43:37
Speaker 1: AND SOME, I TRULY WISH I WAS MAKING THIS UP,
43:41
Speaker 1: ARE CITING HER ASTROLOGICAL SIGN AS EVIDENCE THAT SHE COULDN'T
43:44
Speaker 1: POSSIBLY HAVE DONE IT. THIS ISN'T COMPASSION. Millions of women
43:48
Speaker 1: battle depression. Millions come out of childbirth into dark, exhausted, terrified,
43:53
Speaker 1: overwhelming places. And they don't hurt their kids. The overwhelming
43:58
Speaker 1: majority of mothers who suffer and survive. And they guard
44:03
Speaker 1: their kids with everything that they have. So a movement
44:07
Speaker 1: that stares at the single worst thing a mother can
44:09
Speaker 1: do and lines up to say, same girl, same. It's disturbing.
44:14
Speaker 1: We spent years in this country being lectured that life
44:17
Speaker 1: inside a womb of a choice, an inconvenience, a clump
44:20
Speaker 1: of cells that can be discarded on demand isn't really
44:23
Speaker 1: so far of a leap then for a culture to
44:27
Speaker 1: begin stretching that very same logic, that disregard for life
44:30
Speaker 1: a few months past the delivery room. Why not a
44:32
Speaker 1: few years? teaches society that long enough that life is negotiable.
44:37
Speaker 1: And this is exactly what we start to see. Joining
44:40
Speaker 1: now with Reaction, somebody's been posting brilliantly about this online,
44:44
Speaker 1: by the way, saying that every husband should divorce his
44:46
Speaker 1: wife or every man should break up with his girlfriend
44:49
Speaker 1: if she is liking these posts. Her name is Linda Catalina.
44:52
Speaker 1: She's a political and cultural commentator. And we really appreciate
44:56
Speaker 1: you being here today. Your posts have been fantastic on this.
44:59
Speaker 5: And..
45:02
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. What do you
45:04
Speaker 1: say about this?
45:06
Speaker 9: I don't know what else to say either.
45:07
Speaker 10: I mean, it was one of those things that at
45:10
Speaker 10: first I figured that women were just interested because it's
45:14
Speaker 10: another true crime sort of situation kind of like the
45:18
Speaker 10: candace owens charlie kirk drama but then it was about.
45:23
Speaker 9: Idolizing a baby killer literally.
45:27
Speaker 10: It is undisputed that she killed her kids but of
45:31
Speaker 10: course they have to come up with the craziest conspiracy
45:33
Speaker 10: theories you know somebody in my comment section even brought
45:36
Speaker 10: up jeffrey epstein like i i I'm not even kidding
45:41
Speaker 10: about this. And what I think it's happening is this is.
45:46
Speaker 9: The culmination of abortion culture.
45:48
Speaker 10: It was supposed to be safe and effective and then
45:52
Speaker 10: up to a certain time.
45:53
Speaker 9: And then we heard up to the point of birth.
45:56
Speaker 10: And then after we remember that video by the ex-governor,
46:00
Speaker 10: I think of Virginia, who said we would keep the
46:03
Speaker 10: baby safe. You know, if the parents wanted it, if not,
46:07
Speaker 10: we would decide or they will decide after basically like decide.
46:11
Speaker 10: So I think that's part of it. And then we're
46:14
Speaker 10: also seeing a culture of entitled manipulative children or women
46:21
Speaker 10: who act like children and basically want to tell us
46:25
Speaker 10: that postpartum depression. You know, if they have it and
46:30
Speaker 10: it goes into psychosis, then. I guess it's okay to
46:34
Speaker 10: kill their kids. They're saying, no, it's about supporting another mom. Well,
46:40
Speaker 10: first of all, why are you inserting yourself into the situation?
46:44
Speaker 10: This is about three children who were strangled by their
46:47
Speaker 10: mother in the most cruel.
46:48
Speaker 9: And violent way.
46:50
Speaker 10: And you're making this about your experience when you were
46:53
Speaker 10: pregnant and gave birth. There are women like Carolyn Leavitt
46:57
Speaker 10: who went back to work only four days after she
46:59
Speaker 10: gave birth. Now, I'm not saying that should be the
47:01
Speaker 10: standard or everyone's the same, but what is.
47:04
Speaker 9: The threshold here?
47:06
Speaker 10: What is very concerning, and I posted this on Twitter,
47:09
Speaker 10: is hearing the defense, her lawyer basically allude that postpartum
47:18
Speaker 10: depression or syndrome or whatever can go on for months
47:22
Speaker 10: and months and months and technically just appear out of nowhere.
47:27
Speaker 10: Lindsay Clancy's youngest son was eight months old.
47:32
Speaker 9: How long are we supposed to extend this postpartum period?
47:35
Speaker 10: It was typically, you know, anywhere from four to 12
47:38
Speaker 10: weeks and then we could say really six months.
47:42
Speaker 9: So, what are we, what are we doing here?
47:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
47:46
Speaker 9: You know, it just excusing.
47:48
Speaker 10: The murder of three innocent children over your mental state.
47:53
Speaker 10: And you heard a voice for just those 18 minutes,
47:56
Speaker 10: you were able to call back your husband and be.
48:00
Speaker 9: Completely lucid to tell him whatever it was. So he
48:03
Speaker 9: wouldn't worry.
48:04
Speaker 10: And then there's the part that really pisses me off because.
48:09
Speaker 9: She's a nurse and Or she, yeah, she was a nurse,
48:13
Speaker 9: a NICU nurse. Okay. Now I'm scared that, I mean,
48:18
Speaker 9: I don't know.
48:19
Speaker 10: Did she do something to the kids that what she
48:21
Speaker 10: wants treated at the hospital or took care of?
48:25
Speaker 9: She knew exactly how drugs worked.
48:29
Speaker 10: She knew exactly how to tie the knot in her
48:32
Speaker 10: children's neck. in a way where it would be very
48:36
Speaker 10: difficult for them to be resuscitated.
48:39
Speaker 9: She knows a lot.
48:40
Speaker 10: She knew how to cut herself superficially so that she
48:44
Speaker 10: wouldn't bleed to death. And then she threw herself out
48:48
Speaker 10: of the second story window. Give me a freaking break.
48:53
Speaker 10: I mean, what's the most that could happen to you?
48:55
Speaker 10: I mean, for her, she forgot it was January in
48:59
Speaker 10: Boston and the floor was frozen and she had a
49:03
Speaker 10: battery injury, which of course that's how she ended. But yeah,
49:06
Speaker 10: it's just an insane time online right now for women.
49:10
Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, there's so many things. I mean,
49:13
Speaker 1: the facts of the case is strange in and of itself.
49:14
Speaker 1: And you're right. The second story window thing is strange.
49:17
Speaker 1: It's like she could have, I mean, it's, sad. Let
49:20
Speaker 1: me be very, very clear. I'm not being insensitive. Women
49:23
Speaker 1: do suffer with depression, psychosis, postpartum. All of that is true.
49:27
Speaker 1: And women have it really tough when they have a
49:28
Speaker 1: baby and they're not sleeping and there's a lot of
49:30
Speaker 1: pressure on them. All that is true. We're sympathetic to that.
49:34
Speaker 1: BUT IT IS NOT NORMAL FOR A WOMAN WITH DEPRESSION
49:37
Speaker 1: OR DEPRESSION OR ANXIETY OR SLEEPLESS NIGHTS TO KILL THEIR CHILDREN.
49:40
Speaker 1: NOT JUST ONE CHILD EITHER, BY THE WAY. ALL OF
49:42
Speaker 1: HER CHILDREN. ONE BY ONE. AND THEN SEND HER HUSBAND AWAY.
49:46
Speaker 1: AND THEN THROW HERSELF OFF A SECOND STORY. I DON'T
49:50
Speaker 1: THINK SHE INTENDED ON ACTUALLY KILLING HERSELF. I DON'T THINK
49:53
Speaker 1: SHE INTENDED TO BREAK HER BACK. I THINK SHE WAS
49:55
Speaker 1: JUST COMING UP WITH A COVER STORY. BUT NONE OF
49:57
Speaker 1: IT MATTERS. BECAUSE LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE. THE JURY WILL
50:00
Speaker 1: DECIDE HER GUILT The problem here is, and I got
50:03
Speaker 1: about a minute left, the problem here is that you
50:06
Speaker 1: have all these women coming around saying, oh, there's nothing
50:09
Speaker 1: wrong with this at all. And how many women that
50:11
Speaker 1: are suffering from depression or postpartum depression with children are
50:14
Speaker 1: seeing this crap online and going, oh, well, people are
50:19
Speaker 1: with me. This is something I should do, rather than
50:21
Speaker 1: people going, well, I should never do this. That's the
50:24
Speaker 1: sick part about this, right?
50:26
Speaker 5: It is.
50:26
Speaker 7: It is.
50:27
Speaker 10: I saw a video of a woman yesterday, very disturbing.
50:30
Speaker 10: She was walking with her newborn close to one of
50:34
Speaker 10: these tree shredder machines.
50:36
Speaker 9: That are really big.
50:37
Speaker 10: And she said, you know, sometimes, like, doesn't it happen
50:41
Speaker 10: to everybody that when you're walking with your newborn next
50:44
Speaker 10: to one of these tree things, it would.
50:47
Speaker 1: Just like, oops.
50:48
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
50:50
Speaker 10: It's just extremely disturbing. disturbing that these women are being
50:55
Speaker 10: encouraged to come out in public and basically tell us
50:58
Speaker 10: that they've had thoughts of harming their own children.
51:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
51:03
Speaker 1: And it's normal and justified. And if they do it,
51:06
Speaker 1: don't worry, we'll raise a GoFundMe. It is really, honestly,
51:10
Speaker 1: just the sickness of the left to destroy the family,
51:14
Speaker 1: to separate the mother from the child, to really, I mean,
51:17
Speaker 1: the late-term abortions, to now justifying death postpartum. It's all insane. Linda,
51:22
Speaker 1: thank you so much for giving your take on this.
51:23
Speaker 1: Thanks for the great social media posts.
51:25
Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me.
51:27
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