Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Central Australian Aboriginal Congress CEO Donna Ah Chee has welcomed alcohol reforms and a $250 million funding boost for services in Alice Springs
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- 0:00Speaker 1: There's been a lot of discussions so far this morning
- 0:02Speaker 1: about the announcement made by the Northern Territory government yesterday.
- 0:05Speaker 1: What we know is that alcohol bands are going to
- 0:07Speaker 1: be reinstated across the Northern Territory, preventing the sale of
- 0:11Speaker 1: alcohol to people living in town camps and remote communities.
- 0:15Speaker 1: The Northern Territory Chief Minister yesterday, well, she did cave
- 0:18Speaker 1: to what has been mounting pressure amid crime and terrible,
- 0:24Speaker 1: terrible situations with domestic violence and alcohol related assaults. And
- 0:28Speaker 1: just going through that report, it really identifies what a
- 0:31Speaker 1: number of groups and individuals have been saying out of
- 0:35Speaker 1: Central Australia for quite some time.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Now joining me on the line right now.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Is the CEO of Central Australian Congress, Donna g.
- 0:43Speaker 2: Good morning to you. Donna.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Hey morning, Katie, Thanks so much for.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Your time this morning. Donna. What was your reaction to
- 0:51Speaker 2: the announcement yesterday.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Oh, look, Katie, Congress is very pleased for Aboriginal leaders,
- 0:58Speaker 3: communities and organizations in Australia have been listened to. As
- 1:02Speaker 3: you said in your introduction, we've been calling very strongly
- 1:08Speaker 3: for a two fold strategy, strategy to address the harm
- 1:12Speaker 3: that alcohol is causing for our people. So having the
- 1:17Speaker 3: reintroduction of alcohol bands to break the cycle of violence
- 1:23Speaker 3: and keep our people and family safe, combined with sustained
- 1:29Speaker 3: investment and action on the drivers of destructive drinking like
- 1:35Speaker 3: intergenerational trauma, poverty, poor education, poor housing and discrimination. With
- 1:43Speaker 3: that announcement of two hundred and fifty million investments, along
- 1:48Speaker 3: with the reintroduction of the alcohol restrictions, we think that
- 1:54Speaker 3: both governments have made a very good decision and they
- 1:58Speaker 3: have listened to what Aboriginal leaders have been calling for.
- 2:04Speaker 2: It took them a while, though, didn't it. Donald.
- 2:06Speaker 1: I mean, they certainly seemed to be digging their heels
- 2:09Speaker 1: in last week and the week before. I know that,
- 2:11Speaker 1: you know, even yourself had been in quite a terrible
- 2:14Speaker 1: situation where you'd suffered a home break in, and you know,
- 2:19Speaker 1: your story wasn't different to what a lot of people
- 2:21Speaker 1: were saying out of Central Australia, which I guess was
- 2:24Speaker 1: the really tough part. But they did seem to be
- 2:27Speaker 1: digging their heels in last week, didn't they.
- 2:31Speaker 3: Well, Katie, look, I've made it really clear, you know,
- 2:36Speaker 3: leading up to this decision that we were looking at
- 2:43Speaker 3: you know, this sort of situation occurring, So I don't
- 2:47Speaker 3: really want to look backwards. Actually, I think it's important
- 2:50Speaker 3: that we look forward and that we and that we
- 2:53Speaker 3: all worked together with the Commonwealth, the Northern Territory government,
- 2:58Speaker 3: and the Aboriginal leadership of the Northern Territory to actually
- 3:02Speaker 3: make sure that you know, that the robust process for
- 3:11Speaker 3: decisions being made at the local level in communities that
- 3:15Speaker 3: are affected by these bans who would wish to see
- 3:19Speaker 3: alcohol return to their communities, with appropriate mechanisms in place
- 3:25Speaker 3: to ensure that we don't see a return of those
- 3:28Speaker 3: awful statistics in relation to alcohol fuels harm. Along with
- 3:34Speaker 3: making sure that the two hundred and fifty million dollar
- 3:37Speaker 3: investment that we keep both governments accountable and in particular
- 3:41Speaker 3: the Northern Territory government, but also those who will be
- 3:46Speaker 3: recipients of this funding to make sure that there are
- 3:50Speaker 3: appropriate accountability mechanisms put on them as well. We're all
- 3:55Speaker 3: in this together. We're all in this together, and if
- 3:58Speaker 3: we're going to make a difference, we've got to work
- 4:01Speaker 3: together to make this happen, and we've got to have accountability,
- 4:05Speaker 3: transparency and shared decision making.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Yeah, spot on, you know, particularly with making sure that
- 4:13Speaker 1: money that is invested is going into areas where it's
- 4:16Speaker 1: truly needed and that it's having an impact in a
- 4:18Speaker 1: positive way.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Exactly, Katie, and I think, Look, I think that what
- 4:24Speaker 3: we've got here is some really important elements of the
- 4:30Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty million dollar announcement. So community safety,
- 4:35Speaker 3: ensuring that you know that we have cohesion and more
- 4:38Speaker 3: news engagement and diversion programs, job creation, better services, addressing
- 4:45Speaker 3: feedal alcohol fecter and disorder fas D, investing in families
- 4:49Speaker 3: and improving school attendance and completion. Now I'm not sure
- 4:53Speaker 3: if your listeners are aware, but we have three thousand
- 4:56Speaker 3: Aboriginal kids that aren't going to school across the Northern Territory.
- 5:01Speaker 3: So the fact that they's been identified as an area,
- 5:06Speaker 3: you know, for investments, I think is a really good
- 5:12Speaker 3: decision of both governments. So we need to make sure
- 5:15Speaker 3: that we that we that we have appropriately well designed
- 5:22Speaker 3: strategies to get those three thousand kids that aren't going
- 5:26Speaker 3: to school into the school system, and for those that
- 5:30Speaker 3: are in the school system and that they're not dropping out,
- 5:33Speaker 3: to keep them in, We've got to make sure that
- 5:35Speaker 3: we've got you know, quality wrap around support services, you know,
- 5:41Speaker 3: and their families and you know, in partnership with the
- 5:44Speaker 3: Cist school. So we want I'd like to see the health,
- 5:48Speaker 3: health sector and the education system working together to get
- 5:52Speaker 3: those appropriate support, wrap around support services for those kids
- 5:56Speaker 3: in the school as well the other the other area
- 6:00Speaker 3: around fas D. You know, we've got a waiting list
- 6:05Speaker 3: as an example at Congress, we've got a Child Youth
- 6:12Speaker 3: Assessment and Treatment service and we've got we've got over
- 6:16Speaker 3: a hundred referrals that we cannot meet the demand. So
- 6:22Speaker 3: the announcement to have fas D is a priority area
- 6:26Speaker 3: we are really pleased with. You know, one of my
- 6:30Speaker 3: staff was recently, uh you know, doing some public media
- 6:36Speaker 3: on this and said, look, you know, she was asked
- 6:38Speaker 3: the question how, you know, in terms of additional staff
- 6:43Speaker 3: to meet that need. What what would you be looking at?
- 6:47Speaker 3: Because this service that we've got is one of its
- 6:49Speaker 3: kind in the Northern Territory as well as in the country,
- 6:54Speaker 3: you know, having neuropsychologists, social workers and the appropriate field
- 7:00Speaker 3: workforce to do these assessments and then have subsequent treatment provided.
- 7:07Speaker 3: So we're only able to do that in town. There's
- 7:10Speaker 3: a much there's much need out in the bush. So
- 7:12Speaker 3: she was asked the question, what what what what additional
- 7:17Speaker 3: you know, stuffing would you need and she said, look,
- 7:20Speaker 3: I hate to think, but off the top of my head,
- 7:22Speaker 3: at least four to six, you know, additional staff to
- 7:26Speaker 3: meet the need. And that's that's the need in terms
- 7:29Speaker 3: of the waiting list as well as meeting some of
- 7:31Speaker 3: the need out Bush. So I am really pleased with
- 7:36Speaker 3: the focus areas and I'm really pleased that we've got
- 7:40Speaker 3: to both and approach not a either all because I've
- 7:44Speaker 3: constantly heard this debate that alcohol is a symptom. Now
- 7:49Speaker 3: I get that, I really understand that that's that. But
- 7:53Speaker 3: at the end of the day, this is, you know, complex,
- 7:56Speaker 3: and my view is is that alcohol consumption and as
- 8:02Speaker 3: a result of that, alcohol related harm is actually a cause.
- 8:07Speaker 3: And we thought we've seen it. We've seen it because
- 8:10Speaker 3: as soon as you lifted the restriction, look what happened.
- 8:13Speaker 3: So the underlying social determinants, you know, we've got a
- 8:17Speaker 3: long way to go there. So it's actually both. We've
- 8:20Speaker 3: got to do both, and we've got to make sure
- 8:22Speaker 3: that we you know, we stay the course. We stay
- 8:25Speaker 3: the course, and we monitor the outcome and we make
- 8:29Speaker 3: sure that we're making a difference.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Donna, we are going to have to wrap up, but
- 8:34Speaker 1: do you have a hope for Alice Springs and for
- 8:37Speaker 1: Central Australia following on from that announcement yesterday?
- 8:39Speaker 2: I know it was tough, Like the last couple of weeks.
- 8:42Speaker 1: I'd seen a few of those interviews that you've done
- 8:45Speaker 1: and it was it was tough to watch. So I
- 8:47Speaker 1: can't imagine how you know, how you were feeling and
- 8:49Speaker 1: how the people of Alice were feeling. Do you have
- 8:52Speaker 1: hope for the Red Center following on from yesterday, Katy.
- 8:57Speaker 3: Katie, I am feeling very optimistic now. In light of
- 9:03Speaker 3: those immediate restrictions that were put in place, we saw
- 9:07Speaker 3: almost immediately improvements. We saw improvements in domestic violence go
- 9:13Speaker 3: from twenty five a day down to under ten. We
- 9:15Speaker 3: saw police call outs go from two hundred to one
- 9:18Speaker 3: hundred and twenty, and so we've seen immediate improvements. We've
- 9:24Speaker 3: still got a bit to go, of course, but this
- 9:27Speaker 3: announcement is really going to help that, and we've just
- 9:31Speaker 3: got to work together, put politics aside and put in
- 9:36Speaker 3: place the things that we know work. Do it in
- 9:39Speaker 3: partnership with Aboriginal leadership. And communities and we will definitely
- 9:43Speaker 3: bring the town back to what it was always a
- 9:47Speaker 3: beautiful town. Like any other rural or remote town in Australia.
- 9:51Speaker 3: We have our ups and downs, like I've said in
- 9:53Speaker 3: the past, but I'm feeling optimistic. I am really feeling
- 9:57Speaker 3: optimistic now. So thank you.
- 9:59Speaker 1: K Yeah, I really appreciate your time this morning, Donna,
- 10:02Speaker 1: and please keep in contact with us. I'd be really
- 10:05Speaker 1: keen to hear how things are tracking, but keen to
- 10:08Speaker 1: hear more as well about some of those initiatives that
- 10:11Speaker 1: you've spoken about with faz D and various other areas,
- 10:14Speaker 1: because I think that they are really important parts of
- 10:17Speaker 1: the discussion. So Donna Archie, thank you so much for
- 10:21Speaker 1: your time today.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Thank you, Katie, thank you