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Chuck in the Morning 9/15 H3: Gene Steratore, The Price is Right, ABC's of the M's · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Oh, well, great morning to you all.
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Speaker 2: Hour number three on this Tuesday edition of Chuck in
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Speaker 2: the Morning. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM featuring Anders Hurst.
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Speaker 2: As we roll into our third hour, we roll into
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Speaker 2: some familiar territory. He is back for another season. His
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Speaker 2: first official visit with us, this football campaign. Joining us now,
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Speaker 2: CBS rules analyst and, for my money, the greatest official
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Speaker 2: in the history of football ever. Gene Steratore is joining
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Speaker 2: us here on the radio program.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Gene.
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Speaker 3: There he is.
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Speaker 2: There he is.
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Speaker 1: Gene, Gene, Gene, Gene.
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Speaker 2: How are you, Gene?
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Speaker 4: My man, Chuckie. How are you this morning, bud?
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Speaker 1: I'm great. How was your offseason?
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Speaker 4: It was wonderful. We really enjoyed some time. But you
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Speaker 4: know what? It's football season, Chuck.
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Speaker 5: And I think we're all excited about the start of
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Speaker 5: another great NFL season.
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Speaker 2: Everybody can't wait to rip officials. You're right.
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Speaker 4: We all have a role in this thing, Chuck, you know?
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Speaker 2: Fans have been waiting four months for this opportunity to
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Speaker 2: once again.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's great to have you back. So excited that.
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Speaker 2: You're with us again this season and a lot of
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Speaker 2: ground to cover in week number one.
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Speaker 1: So let's get to it. Tell me, tell me.
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Speaker 2: How on earth in that Lions-Saints game was that an
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Speaker 2: overturned touchdown? Even after the dust settled, the broadcasters were
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Speaker 2: still talking about how they don't understand how that's a rule.
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Speaker 2: So why was the Saints' defensive touchdown overturned? What's the
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Speaker 2: rule there?
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Speaker 5: You know, it's one of these situations that I think
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Speaker 5: we all have to try to understand. And look, I'm
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Speaker 5: with you. Anytime there are rules that are written where
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Speaker 5: we have to define certain aspects of things that we
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Speaker 5: have all lived our whole lives, like the process of
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Speaker 5: a catch. or the tuck rule as history would show us.
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Speaker 5: And now in this situation, I think it's truly the
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Speaker 5: definition of when does the forward pass begin?
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Speaker 4: When does the forward passing motion begin?
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Speaker 5: And I think if we really looked at it in
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Speaker 5: the backyard or how we have all loved this game
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Speaker 5: almost all of our lives and say, well, I mean,
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Speaker 5: right before you throw the pass, that's when the pass begins.
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Speaker 5: But by definition, you have to really find the starting point, right?
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Speaker 5: To really define the play from its beginning and then
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Speaker 5: naturally until it's ending. And I think when we get
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Speaker 5: into these unique plays like that, like this one is,
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Speaker 5: that's where these definitions cross over and start to compete
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Speaker 5: with common sense. And then naturally, what we've all experienced
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Speaker 5: in the last 48 to 72 hours starts to transpire, right?
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Speaker 4: Because of that.
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Speaker 5: And, and really by definition, and please don't get mad
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Speaker 5: at the refs. They don't create the rules. It's a
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Speaker 5: competition committee thing. And, and the stakeholders of the game,
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Speaker 5: I should say, but at some point, the passing motion
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Speaker 5: has to start.
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Speaker 4: And by definition, at this point in the.
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Speaker 5: Rule book, it's when the quarterback begins his his throwing
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Speaker 5: motion or wind up, right? So in Jared Goff's situation
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Speaker 5: on this play, that's almost at his waist or when
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Speaker 5: the ball just is above his waist and not above
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Speaker 5: his shoulder or by his ear or these other traditional
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Speaker 5: places where we would say, no, this is where the
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Speaker 5: throwing motion begins. So when you start to have a
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Speaker 5: throwing motion that actually begins in that place, that low,
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Speaker 5: once that happens by rule, when the throwing motion begins
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Speaker 5: and then there is contact by a defensive player after
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Speaker 5: the motion begins, the only element that you really are
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Speaker 5: considering at that point as far as forward or backward
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Speaker 5: is defense.
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Speaker 4: Does the arm move forward.
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Speaker 5: At some point then after the contact occurs? Even though
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Speaker 5: the ball may go backward or after it moves forward
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Speaker 5: by two camera frames, the hand pushes the ball backward.
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Speaker 5: Whatever the case may be, it becomes irrelevant basically on
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Speaker 5: where that football ends. If we had forward passing posture
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Speaker 5: or motion begin prior to defensive contact and then to release,
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Speaker 5: if the arm's going forward by this rule, it's an
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Speaker 5: incomplete pass. Now, tell 99 out of 100 people in
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Speaker 5: a local pub that.
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Speaker 4: And they'll tell.
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Speaker 5: You that you're, you know, they'll tell you the things that,
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Speaker 5: quite frankly, Chuck, I've been told for the last 30
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Speaker 5: years of my life that you're full of it, you
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Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing, you guys have ruined the game, and,
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Speaker 5: you know, you don't know what you're talking about. So,
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Speaker 5: like I said, we're back.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know what, Gene? You're full of it.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: You're full of sunshine.
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Speaker 2: That's what you are.
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Speaker 1: Sunshine and wisdom. That's what you're full of. Tell you
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Speaker 1: that right now.
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Speaker 2: That would be funny if some angry fan came up
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Speaker 2: to you and he said, I might have a word
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 3: I think you're wonderful.
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Speaker 2: I think you're great at what you do and you've
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Speaker 2: really helped the game.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir.
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Speaker 5: You want to really throw me a compliment, Chuck.
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Speaker 4: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: Gene Steratore is with us back again this season. This
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Speaker 2: is our first conversation of the brand-new football year. You
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Speaker 2: talked about the competition committee and it's their rule, and
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Speaker 2: it's a good jumping point to ask you about the
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Speaker 2: fact that there are so few new rules this year.
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Speaker 2: I've received one of these at the Seahawks facility recently,
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Speaker 2: An official always comes in every training camp and does
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Speaker 2: this little speech and talks about all the new rules
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Speaker 2: and changes that have been made and how they're going
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Speaker 2: to officiate it and ask the room if they have
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Speaker 2: any questions. And that meeting usually lasts 45 minutes to
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Speaker 2: an hour. This year it lasted like seven minutes, Gene.
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Speaker 2: There weren't many rule changes. Do we chalk that up
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Speaker 2: to we've had enough of those over the last few years?
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Speaker 2: Let's settle in and see if we can make the
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Speaker 2: rules that we have better. Do we give the officials
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Speaker 2: credit for maybe they did a great job implementing the
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Speaker 2: new rules? What do you credit for there being so
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Speaker 2: few rule changes by comparison in 2026?
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Speaker 4: I think the game's in a good place overall. I really,
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Speaker 4: really do.
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Speaker 5: I mean, let's not give the officials credit for anything.
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's only week one. We don't want to
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Speaker 5: go there too quick. I mean, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 4: You know what?
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Speaker 5: Honestly, if you look back even recent history, right, a
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Speaker 5: good portion, a good portion of the rules have been
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Speaker 5: safety driven.
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Speaker 4: For the right reasons, I believe.
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Speaker 5: Even though at times it becomes frustrating with some of
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Speaker 5: the new implementations we've had over the course of, you know,
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Speaker 5: the recent past body weight quarterbacks, things of those, you know,
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Speaker 5: that nature and technology getting a little more involved to
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Speaker 5: make sure we get some of those rulings right, because
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Speaker 5: they're very difficult to officiate at a high efficiency, you know,
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Speaker 5: high accuracy percentage in real time. But I do think
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Speaker 5: that they do feel like the game itself, and I
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Speaker 5: think all of us could agree to that, is in
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Speaker 5: a pretty good spot, right? I mean, overall, as far
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Speaker 5: as the rules and some of the boundaries that have
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Speaker 5: been put on the game as we continue to, you know,
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Speaker 5: focus maybe more on safety or things of that nature.
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Speaker 5: So I think that probably is the case. And kudos
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Speaker 5: to them for getting it to where they want it.
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Speaker 5: And it's still, I think, relatively entertaining, to say the least.
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Speaker 4: And I think it's a safer game in some ways.
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Speaker 5: And then quite honestly, Chuck, you always give credit to
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Speaker 5: the players and the coaches when you are, when you
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Speaker 5: are manipulating certain pieces of a rule that they have
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Speaker 5: to adjust to in such a fast paced game, because
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Speaker 5: the difference between body weight being a foul and not
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Speaker 5: a foul is a defensive man, 300 pounds that has
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Speaker 5: to kind of move his body away from falling on somebody, right.
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Speaker 5: Or bracing himself or whatever. Or hitting somebody below the
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Speaker 5: head neck area, even though they're crouching, you know, anticipating impact.
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Speaker 5: A lot of those have been the rule changes we've
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Speaker 5: seen in the recent past and players and coaches and
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Speaker 5: teams are adjusting so fast and well to those that
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, that's another reason that I think
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Speaker 5: we're in a really good place. Points of emphasis or
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Speaker 5: points of clarification is another thing I would urge all
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Speaker 5: of our listeners to always focus on when you hear
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Speaker 5: those words. That'll give you a little inclination as to
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Speaker 5: how the game under the current rules works. is being
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Speaker 5: stressed and maybe some areas of focus happen. And that
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Speaker 5: kind of floats as we move through years and seasons
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Speaker 5: and see tendencies and trends. I think a legal use
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Speaker 5: of the helmet, which has always been a foul, but
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Speaker 5: maybe not called as frequently, but we know is a
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Speaker 5: safety issue, very hard to officiate in real time. That
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Speaker 5: would be a point of emphasis or clarification that we
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Speaker 5: may see A couple more flags like that now that
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Speaker 5: they are challenging officials to get better at seeing it
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Speaker 5: in real time. That if we see files like that now,
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Speaker 5: we have an idea, you know, I haven't seen that before.
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Speaker 5: Why are they calling that? And that for the college
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Speaker 5: viewer listeners, you know, it's a crown.
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Speaker 4: Of the helmet type play, right?
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Speaker 5: Where we're leading with that part of our helmet, which
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Speaker 5: is dangerous, more dangerous sometimes than the defender or attacker
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Speaker 5: than it is the person.
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Speaker 4: Receiving the hit.
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Speaker 5: Officials have been told now, we need you to identify this,
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Speaker 5: especially when it's out in space, one or two players involved,
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Speaker 5: not in the middle of close line play. We see
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Speaker 5: the lowering of the head, the initiating with force of
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Speaker 5: that part of the head. We want to see those
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Speaker 5: fouls called now, where before they were a little more
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Speaker 5: lax on how they were graded possibly because of the
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Speaker 5: speed and the acclimation of that, seeing that. So that
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Speaker 5: could be something we could see moving forward this season. Again,
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Speaker 5: kind of in a speculative way, educationally, knowing where the
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Speaker 5: league is, I would think that would be something we
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Speaker 5: could see. But overall, as you said, the rules this
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Speaker 5: year were very minimal, and I think everybody's happy about that.
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Speaker 2: And yet there's this vague sort of understanding of how
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Speaker 2: the old tush-push is going to be called this year. Yes,
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Speaker 2: there are some rules, but it felt to me, and
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Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, that midway through the season
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Speaker 2: last year, they started calling it a little closer, a
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Speaker 2: little more careful, making sure that guys weren't leaving too
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Speaker 2: early from their stances on the offensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 2: And so now as we start a brand new year,
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Speaker 2: we had a play in our first game, six minutes
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Speaker 2: left in the second quarter, where we got called for
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Speaker 2: an offensive offsides penalty, and it negated a first down
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Speaker 2: potentially on our version of the tush push here in Seattle.
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Speaker 2: And then when we had a fourth and inches later
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Speaker 2: in the game, we didn't go to that play, which
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Speaker 2: makes me wonder if... Mike McDonald's like, well, wait a minute.
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Speaker 2: Are we going to call this thing super close this year?
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure how the officials are even going to
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Speaker 2: call it. So would you mind clearing it up? Was
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Speaker 2: that a conversation in the off season? Exactly how the
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Speaker 2: push push is going to be officiated in 2026.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's a really great point, Chuck, and a
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Speaker 5: fair assessment. A lot of scrimmage officials look from the
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Speaker 5: years that I worked on the field, although I didn't
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Speaker 5: work that position at the NFL level.
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Speaker 4: We called it hands and helmets, right?
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Speaker 5: If there was a fingertip in the neutral zone or
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Speaker 5: just the top of somebody's helmet on the defensive side
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Speaker 5: of the neutral zone, we never split hairs there. You
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Speaker 5: didn't want to have 15 of.
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Speaker 4: Those types of fouls.
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Speaker 5: Through the course of the game, because there really was
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Speaker 5: no advantage disadvantage that the finger was in there.
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Speaker 4: Right at the top of the helmet.
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Speaker 5: Now, philosophically and how you manage games, when you would
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Speaker 5: see that in regular scrimmage down, you get to that
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Speaker 5: player quickly.
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Speaker 4: It may be a.
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Speaker 5: Defensive helmet in the neutral zone or a hand. It
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Speaker 5: also may be an interior alignment. Who's really not up
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Speaker 5: on the line of scrimmage and cheating it a little bit.
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Speaker 5: All of teams, all of great teams take the rules
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Speaker 5: right to the edge. And therein lies maybe the advantage,
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Speaker 5: disadvantage at some point in this game that's so equally,
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Speaker 5: you know, the.
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Speaker 4: Parity is so great.
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Speaker 5: So now you see the tush-tush occur, and there's so
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Speaker 5: much humanity now within this tackle box area on both
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Speaker 5: sides of the football, not even behind the first layer
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Speaker 5: of this massive humanity.
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Speaker 4: There's another massive humanity, and now there are handbags.
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Speaker 5: And helmets in there, or there are offensive linemen who
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Speaker 5: are creeping a little closer when they get set in
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Speaker 5: their three-point stands than really they should be because technically
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Speaker 5: you're breaking the neutral zone there. Well, we never want
12:44
Speaker 5: to split that hair on every snap, but now this
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Speaker 5: play has gained so much traction. And quite frankly, that
12:51
Speaker 5: inch or two is usually what they're fighting for. So
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Speaker 5: that inch or two becomes even more significant on that play.
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Speaker 5: So it's not as a deterrent. But what it is is, look,
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Speaker 5: you want to continue to run the play.
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Speaker 4: We haven't we haven't made it illegal.
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Speaker 5: But we're telling you now, if you're going to run it,
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Speaker 5: you better checkmark every box now because it is too
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Speaker 5: important not to do.
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Speaker 4: It that way.
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Speaker 5: And listen, offside on a kickoff back in the traditional
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Speaker 5: days when we had kickoff formations that all look the same,
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Speaker 5: regardless of onside or regular kickoff. That was another philosophy
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Speaker 5: and officiating. It was just a normal kickoff and they're
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Speaker 5: blasting it to the end zone. And, and the eighth
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Speaker 5: guy outside of the kicker broke the plane of the
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Speaker 5: kicking line and his foot was in the air right
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Speaker 5: before the ball get kicked. We don't want to start
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Speaker 5: a game with offside on the kickoff team there. Cause
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Speaker 5: that's what just broke the plane. It was insignificant and
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Speaker 5: had no impact.
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Speaker 4: On the play.
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Speaker 5: But if that same action occurred on an onside kick
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Speaker 5: and And that little extra advantage basically, right, created a disadvantage.
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Speaker 5: Now we're going to officiate the same play at a
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Speaker 5: different point in the game in a little different fashion.
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's bending the rules. I think that's
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Speaker 5: understanding the game and also letting the teams know, look,
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Speaker 5: in these scenarios, it gets a little more technical because
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Speaker 5: if we all lived in the technical situation, space all
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Speaker 5: the time, which is what the true black and white
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Speaker 5: person could say, the game would not be nearly as
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Speaker 5: fun to watch.
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Speaker 4: Because there's gray areas.
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Speaker 5: And listen, if we were driving on the interstate and
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Speaker 5: the speed limit was 65 and someone pulled you over
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Speaker 5: at 66 and gave you a ticket, you wouldn't be
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Speaker 5: a happy person. You'd think the guy was just having
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Speaker 5: a bad day, right?
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Speaker 4: And didn't like it.
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Speaker 5: But you weren't going a mile over the speed limit, right?
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Speaker 4: So I'm a ticket.
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Speaker 5: If you're at 65 and then limit 65 and you're
14:42
Speaker 5: at 76, we got to talk now. I got to
14:44
Speaker 5: pay you.
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Speaker 4: But if you're in a 15 mile zone and.
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Speaker 5: There's a school right there and it's a blinking yellow light.
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Speaker 5: Don't go 17. It's 15 for a reason there. And
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Speaker 5: it's 75 out here. I think some of that philosophy
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Speaker 5: needs to play into the game. And I think officials
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Speaker 5: do a good job of applying it.
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Speaker 4: And that may be.
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Speaker 5: Why you saw what you saw on the offside on
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Speaker 5: the offense there.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating, fascinating, fascinating stuff from Gene Steratore, CBS rules.
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Speaker 1: And the greatest NFL.
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Speaker 2: Official of all time, and he joins us every week
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Speaker 2: during the football season. I'll use my last couple minutes
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Speaker 2: to talk about a play that might be one of
15:21
Speaker 2: the most controversial in the history of football. I don't
15:25
Speaker 2: think we're going to get one more controversial. It looked
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Speaker 2: like the Michigan Wolverines had lost to Western Michigan. It
15:31
Speaker 2: looked like the clock had expired, and suddenly they decided
15:34
Speaker 2: to put a second back on the clock. They get
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Speaker 2: a Hail Mary attempt. Lo and behold, it's successful somehow,
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Speaker 2: and Michigan wins the game, and we're still talking about it.
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Speaker 2: This is our first conversation, my first opportunity to ask you,
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Speaker 2: but from an official standpoint, walk us through how that
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Speaker 2: play is supposed to work, how it does work, and
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Speaker 2: whether or not this thing just got royally screwed up
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Speaker 2: in the first week of college football.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, not like we got hit with these little layup
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Speaker 5: questions to start the football season, right, Chuck? I mean,
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Speaker 5: what's a forward pass? Is this happening? And now, please
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Speaker 5: tell me what's going on with these clocks. Technology advances.
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Speaker 5: Replay command centers have become the norm and not the
16:22
Speaker 5: one place in the world where there was a command center,
16:25
Speaker 5: but we can't see what's happening. The way that they
16:28
Speaker 5: break down video is changing because technology is increasing. When
16:32
Speaker 5: television puts that little camera or that little official clock
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Speaker 5: in your screen, That clock is normally set based on
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Speaker 5: a camera shot that they take counting that regular clock
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Speaker 5: down maybe an hour before kickoff. And they're trying to
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Speaker 5: sync a camera that they're going to show the public
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Speaker 5: with the actual time that is running down. And there's
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Speaker 5: a synchage in that space, which is not perfect, unfortunately.
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Speaker 5: It does have hundreds of a second. Rarely is it tense.
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Speaker 5: I can tell you when I was working basketball to
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Speaker 5: begin the technological when the basketball countdown had started having
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Speaker 5: tense on it. We recognize that the banners in most
17:14
Speaker 5: arenas were a tenth of a second off of what
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Speaker 5: the official clock could be. So last second shots became
17:19
Speaker 5: a little different and the conspiracies would abound. And I
17:23
Speaker 5: had a few big games in the Big Ten. where
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Speaker 5: it was 1 10th on my monitor and it was
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Speaker 5: zero in the arena, which isn't an easy place to
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Speaker 5: be in.
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Speaker 4: So those things occur.
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Speaker 5: Now, in this scenario, from the information that I've gathered,
17:37
Speaker 5: that sinkage of that game clock took place and now
17:39
Speaker 5: this command center Which I think is the actual, what
17:43
Speaker 5: we're going to see the fallout from this. And the
17:45
Speaker 5: Big Ten started doing it last week in the majority
17:48
Speaker 5: of their games. I believe the SEC will start doing
17:51
Speaker 5: it now in their conference games.
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Speaker 4: The ACC did it last year.
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Speaker 5: I think what they'll do now is bring you into
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Speaker 5: their command centers live. You'll go from your living room
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Speaker 5: to the command centers to watch how replay is being
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Speaker 5: broken down.
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Speaker 4: To avoid issues.
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Speaker 5: The uh faceless names that uh that are in there
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Speaker 5: making some decisions or doing things in the conspiracy that
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Speaker 5: could evolve from that so i think there'll be more
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Speaker 5: transparency and showing the viewing audience a little about how
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Speaker 5: they're making the sausage when they break these plays down
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Speaker 5: But there is a slight imperfection when you say clocks
18:24
Speaker 5: now the game clock, which which really led to this issue, Chuck, right?
18:28
Speaker 5: Because now the sinkage that they had done for the
18:32
Speaker 5: replay command center's equipment prior to the start of that
18:35
Speaker 5: day of football in the Big Ten.
18:38
Speaker 4: Those clocks were synced.
18:39
Speaker 5: That clock is embedded in their replay systems in their
18:43
Speaker 5: command center.
18:44
Speaker 4: They are constantly on their.
18:46
Speaker 5: Screens, that clock, where we don't see that clock all
18:49
Speaker 5: the time when we're sitting at home or in the stadium.
18:52
Speaker 5: And there could be this very minor couple hundredths of
18:55
Speaker 5: a tenth of a second differential or discrepancy because of
19:00
Speaker 5: still the lack of perfection when you shoot cameras with
19:02
Speaker 5: 200 frames even.
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Speaker 4: So the perfect storm occurred. It shows as a whole.
19:08
Speaker 5: One when they're breaking the play down in the command
19:10
Speaker 5: center and making their ruling, and the House in the
19:15
Speaker 5: country sees a zero. So now what do you do
19:20
Speaker 5: in the moment that it happened there? Because there was
19:22
Speaker 5: no rule written, which there was written the day after
19:25
Speaker 5: this occurred saying, in the event that we have a
19:28
Speaker 5: discrepancy from replay command centers to the viewing audience or
19:32
Speaker 5: in stadium clock, we will yield to what the general
19:36
Speaker 5: audience sees and what they see in the stadium as
19:38
Speaker 5: opposed to what you may be seeing in the replay
19:41
Speaker 5: command center.
19:42
Speaker 4: Up until that point, it never happened. It did happen.
19:46
Speaker 5: It was so unfortunate for Western Michigan in this game
19:49
Speaker 5: and really for all of us. of us in some
19:50
Speaker 5: ways right that this is where it showed itself uh
19:54
Speaker 5: but it did and the ncaa reacted quickly and said
19:57
Speaker 5: in the event that there's ever a discrepancy because there
19:59
Speaker 5: will be uh very rarely uh that they will yield
20:03
Speaker 5: to the clock that we all see at home and
20:05
Speaker 5: what they see in the stadiums now and know what
20:07
Speaker 5: they think Very long version of a difficult scenario.
20:12
Speaker 2: There had to be a thought. Whoever made the ultimate
20:15
Speaker 2: decision of like, it's not like they're going to throw
20:18
Speaker 2: a touchdown pass here.
20:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
20:22
Speaker 5: Right.
20:22
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:23
Speaker 5: I mean, the best answer, unfortunately, in some ways would
20:27
Speaker 5: have been, OK, we had the discrepancy and you gave
20:30
Speaker 5: them another play.
20:30
Speaker 4: We've got to talk about this. But listen, the game
20:33
Speaker 4: wasn't decided on the next play. Right. We just found
20:36
Speaker 4: that there was an issue here. Yeah.
20:38
Speaker 5: Then they threw it again and it was locked down
20:40
Speaker 5: or whatever.
20:40
Speaker 4: Right. So.
20:41
Speaker 6: Yeah.
20:41
Speaker 4: But as we know, as officials.
20:44
Speaker 5: Anytime there's that little blip, it's like, it's, it's the principle, right?
20:48
Speaker 5: It's like, then the next play, that's the one, you know? Uh,
20:53
Speaker 5: and it's usually the one that comes out and bites
20:55
Speaker 5: you in a lot of cases. So, as I said,
20:57
Speaker 5: just so unfortunate for the teams.
20:59
Speaker 4: Involved in one of the teams, at least, right? Uh,
21:03
Speaker 4: but hopefully never to deal with again.
21:04
Speaker 2: Well, football season is now here. It's now whole. I
21:07
Speaker 2: knew there was something missing and I had to have
21:09
Speaker 2: my first gene conversation. And so now we've had it now.
21:13
Speaker 2: Now I can relax and enjoy the football season. So
21:17
Speaker 2: welcome back. Excited to have you all year long and
21:21
Speaker 2: look forward to our next conversation already.
21:24
Speaker 4: Likewise, my friend.
21:25
Speaker 5: I got the warm and fuzzy feeling on the other
21:27
Speaker 5: side of the 48 right now because of it.
21:30
Speaker 4: And I can't wait for the next 17 weeks.
21:32
Speaker 5: All right.
21:33
Speaker 2: Thank you, Gene. Gene Steratore joining us right here on
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21:52
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21:55
Speaker 2: He is going to play our first official game next.
22:01
Speaker 2: There's really not a winner or a loser, though.
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Speaker 3: Well, what's the point of the game, then?
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Speaker 7: Oh, it's time for The Price is Right here on
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22:50
Speaker 2: See, if you didn't grow up with Price is Right,
22:53
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the same. For a lot of people
22:55
Speaker 2: out there, like, oh, mom.
22:58
Speaker 3: Is that your Bob Barker impression?
23:00
Speaker 4: No.
23:00
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
23:01
Speaker 4: No, no.
23:02
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. It takes you back to your childhood.
23:06
Speaker 2: Because this was the common ground show. This is where
23:09
Speaker 2: you and mom negotiated peace. When you were home, I
23:13
Speaker 2: had a stay-at-home mom. And before I started going to school,
23:15
Speaker 2: I wanted cartoons. She wanted to watch soap operas. And
23:18
Speaker 2: this is the only thing that we watched together was
23:21
Speaker 2: The Price is Right.
23:22
Speaker 3: It's the previous era's family feud, basically.
23:25
Speaker 2: No, Family Feud was still around. Family Feud, though, was
23:28
Speaker 2: usually showed at night. Price is Right was shown in
23:32
Speaker 2: the middle of the morning.
23:33
Speaker 4: Got it. Yeah.
23:34
Speaker 2: Bob Barker. This was a stay-at-home sick show.
23:38
Speaker 1: Oh, for sure this was a stay-at-home.
23:39
Speaker 2: This is what you watched. That is a great call
23:43
Speaker 2: right there. It is definitely a stay-at-home sick show that
23:47
Speaker 2: you watch.
23:48
Speaker 1: And then at some point you realize.
23:50
Speaker 2: Oh, Bob's really sleeping with all the Barker beauties?
23:54
Speaker 4: Wow. Huh.
23:55
Speaker 2: Never knew that. When Mom and I were watching on
23:58
Speaker 2: the couch together, I never understood that.
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Speaker 4: Huh.
24:00
Speaker 2: Now I do. And I get it. I get it, Bob.
24:02
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from.
24:03
Speaker 4: Well done.
24:04
Speaker 5: All right.
24:05
Speaker 2: So let's play a little round of The Price is
24:07
Speaker 2: Right here. And there was a particular game within the
24:11
Speaker 2: game show called Cliffhangers. And we're not going to play
24:14
Speaker 2: it exactly that way. but you'll get the gist as
24:18
Speaker 2: we go. So I have three Jadarian Price questions, and
24:22
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask Anders Hurst exactly where the monetary
24:27
Speaker 2: value is on this, or not necessarily monetary, but numerical
24:32
Speaker 2: value is on these three questions, and we'll walk through it.
24:35
Speaker 2: I don't need an answer immediately. We'll walk through it,
24:40
Speaker 2: and we'll see where Anders ends up landing on these
24:43
Speaker 2: three Jadarian Price questions. So, question number one. Jadarian Price
24:47
Speaker 2: had 12 touches in the opener. What is the right
24:51
Speaker 2: amount of touches for him this week against the Cardinals?
24:58
Speaker 3: I do think... Is it like 10? More higher.
25:02
Speaker 4: More than that?
25:03
Speaker 3: More.
25:04
Speaker 2: 12 is the number a week ago?
25:06
Speaker 6: No, more.
25:06
Speaker 2: More than that?
25:07
Speaker 5: More.
25:07
Speaker 2: 15 seems like a good number.
25:10
Speaker 4: More.
25:10
Speaker 2: That's usually like more than 15. Yes. 18?
25:15
Speaker 5: More.
25:15
Speaker 4: More!
25:16
Speaker 5: Yeah.
25:16
Speaker 2: All right, now I'm up to 20. Everybody seems to
25:20
Speaker 2: think that running backs all get 20 touches a game,
25:22
Speaker 2: which they typically don't.
25:25
Speaker 4: 20?
25:25
Speaker 3: I think 20 is the right number.
25:26
Speaker 2: 20 is the right number.
25:28
Speaker 3: That includes both rushing and catching the ball.
25:31
Speaker 4: Yes.
25:31
Speaker 2: So I think 20 is a good number. Good number
25:34
Speaker 2: for Jadarian Price. A good standard number or just for
25:37
Speaker 2: this week? Like, do you want 20 touches from him
25:39
Speaker 2: every week?
25:40
Speaker 4: Standard.
25:41
Speaker 3: Especially when Zach Charbonnet is out. We can reevaluate when
25:45
Speaker 3: he comes back.
25:46
Speaker 2: That's fair. But you want 20 touches this week.
25:48
Speaker 3: I do.
25:49
Speaker 2: And see how he fares. I think I'm good with that.
25:52
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll get there. I don't know
25:54
Speaker 2: if it will. I think they really do like keeping
25:57
Speaker 2: guys fresh.
25:58
Speaker 3: They love them some George Helani.
25:59
Speaker 4: Right.
26:02
Speaker 2: But it's definitely going to be more than 12 this week.
26:06
Speaker 3: As a Price Fantasy owner, I'm happy.
26:08
Speaker 4: I'm with you.
26:08
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it should be 20. I
26:12
Speaker 2: don't know if they'll get to 20, but I definitely
26:15
Speaker 2: think they're going to get far more than 12.
26:17
Speaker 5: More.
26:17
Speaker 4: Give me more.
26:17
Speaker 1: All right, next question.
26:20
Speaker 2: Ken Walker was given a three-year $ 43 million contract by
26:24
Speaker 2: Kansas City this offseason. If you could do it over,
26:28
Speaker 2: based off what you saw last night, how much would
26:31
Speaker 2: you pay K-9? Would you go $ 40 million? Somewhere in
26:38
Speaker 2: the neighborhood? Maybe that gets it done and he stays
26:41
Speaker 2: a Seahawk?
26:42
Speaker 5: More.
26:42
Speaker 4: More?
26:43
Speaker 2: Would you go $ 43? Would you match the offer given?
26:47
Speaker 4: Bingo.
26:48
Speaker 3: I would go $ 43. I would match.
26:50
Speaker 1: What if it took more?
26:52
Speaker 2: What if he said, hey.
26:55
Speaker 1: You've wronged me.
26:56
Speaker 2: The Chiefs haven't. They want to make me a rich man.
26:59
Speaker 2: I need from you to feel more love than you
27:03
Speaker 2: showed me the last four years. I need $ 48 million.
27:07
Speaker 6: Nope.
27:07
Speaker 3: No!
27:08
Speaker 4: Nope.
27:08
Speaker 1: I thought for sure you were going to say yes.
27:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Kenneth Walker, but you got to be smart.
27:13
Speaker 3: And I do agree that there is some thoughts of
27:16
Speaker 3: the value side of things where he hasn't been healthy
27:19
Speaker 3: a bunch. Like, he's really just shown one pretty... semi-significant
27:24
Speaker 3: stretch of really good football and you can't give someone
27:27
Speaker 3: that much more i thought.
27:29
Speaker 2: For sure you were going to say per our earlier
27:31
Speaker 2: conversation yeah whatever i gave rashid shaheed i'd give ken.
27:34
Speaker 3: Walker i just think they overpaid rashid shaheed to be
27:37
Speaker 3: completely honest more than anything else i would have gone
27:41
Speaker 3: 45 probably um but 48 would have been a little
27:43
Speaker 3: too much.
27:44
Speaker 2: Okay all right Ken Walker's off to a 173-yard start
27:49
Speaker 2: at this point in the season. And people last night
27:54
Speaker 2: were already speculating, he's going to win the rushing title,
27:57
Speaker 2: isn't he? Like right in front of us. Yeah.
27:59
Speaker 3: We're in the room.
28:00
Speaker 4: Hello.
28:01
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans are watching the game.
28:04
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald is on the Manning cast.
28:06
Speaker 5: Right.
28:06
Speaker 2: And people are sitting there actively taunting us by saying,
28:10
Speaker 2: he might just win the rushing title this year. So
28:12
Speaker 2: I will ask you, How many more yards will Walker
28:16
Speaker 2: have than Price this season? Will it be five more yards?
28:22
Speaker 4: More.
28:23
Speaker 5: More!
28:23
Speaker 2: So it definitely will be more.
28:25
Speaker 3: I think.
28:27
Speaker 4: So.
28:27
Speaker 2: 50 more yards?
28:28
Speaker 4: More.
28:29
Speaker 2: Okay, so Walker has 1,200. Price has 1,100 more yards?
28:32
Speaker 5: More.
28:32
Speaker 1: 1,200 to 1,200 more yards?
28:41
Speaker 3: I think 200 is about what it ends up being.
28:43
Speaker 3: And are we talking just rushing yards?
28:45
Speaker 2: Just rushing yards.
28:46
Speaker 3: Just rushing yards. I think 200 is a safe bet.
28:47
Speaker 3: Will it be 1,200 versus 1,000?
28:48
Speaker 2: Will it be 800 versus 1,000? Is it 1,500 versus 1,300?
28:50
Speaker 2: I think it'll be somewhere around the 1,200 versus 1,000.
28:52
Speaker 2: Jadarian will probably not get to the 1,000 mark, but
28:53
Speaker 2: I could see him in the 900 to 950 range
28:56
Speaker 2: and then K9 at the 1,100 to 1,200 range. If
29:08
Speaker 2: Ken Walker stays healthy, he's rushing for 1,500 yards.
29:11
Speaker 4: Wow.
29:12
Speaker 3: So you think more than that? You think he's going
29:13
Speaker 3: to have more than 200 yards?
29:14
Speaker 2: I think he'll have 500 yards, 600 yards more than
29:18
Speaker 2: if he stays healthy.
29:19
Speaker 5: Yeah.
29:20
Speaker 1: But that's what we don't know.
29:22
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:22
Speaker 2: That's, you know, last night they gave him everything he
29:26
Speaker 2: said he wanted. You are going to be used on
29:29
Speaker 2: all three downs. We're going to run you between the tackles.
29:31
Speaker 2: We're going to let you bounce outside. If you show patience,
29:34
Speaker 2: you're going to get some extra second effort yards. And so.
29:40
Speaker 2: we're going to throw the ball to you out of
29:42
Speaker 2: the backfield. They gave him everything that he wanted to
29:45
Speaker 2: have here in Seattle. But even though he was frustrated
29:49
Speaker 2: here in Seattle that he didn't get that role, He
29:52
Speaker 2: never did truly stay healthy.
29:55
Speaker 4: No, he didn't.
29:55
Speaker 2: I mean, he didn't miss a lot of time here.
29:57
Speaker 3: No, he was never like a missed-a-full-season guy.
29:59
Speaker 1: No, but there might be something, too.
30:03
Speaker 2: Before people get carried away with, I can't believe we
30:06
Speaker 2: let go of Walker. And look, you're talking to somebody
30:10
Speaker 2: that thought Ken Walker was going to rush for 1,700
30:13
Speaker 2: yards this sophomore season with us. Before people get carried away...
30:18
Speaker 2: Maybe the reason he was so good at the end
30:20
Speaker 2: of the year is because they paced him. That's a possibility.
30:26
Speaker 2: For Kansas City fans, they're waking up this morning and
30:28
Speaker 2: they think that they've gotten Terrell Davis for John Elway.
30:34
Speaker 2: That's what they're thinking. The guy that's going to revive
30:38
Speaker 2: John Elway's career, Patrick Mahomes' career. They've got him in
30:42
Speaker 2: Ken Walker. That's what they're waking up this morning thinking,
30:45
Speaker 2: and maybe they do. We were waiting four years to
30:49
Speaker 2: see this version of Ken Walker spread out over the
30:51
Speaker 2: course of 17 years, but we have not seen whether
30:55
Speaker 2: or not he can take on this load, if he
30:57
Speaker 2: can run this often as he did last night. If
31:02
Speaker 2: he does, I think he is going to do... what
31:05
Speaker 2: I thought he was always going to do with the Seahawks.
31:07
Speaker 2: And I think he's going to be.
31:08
Speaker 1: Fantastic 1,400, 1,500 yards this year.
31:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, both things can be true. I do miss
31:14
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker, and I think they should have kept him.
31:16
Speaker 3: But I also like what I saw from Jadarian Price.
31:20
Speaker 3: And I think there's a world in which he gains
31:22
Speaker 3: more and more and more trust. And if he stays healthy,
31:26
Speaker 3: then he starts to become the guy. And he becomes,
31:29
Speaker 3: you know... A version of, I don't want to say
31:33
Speaker 3: like Kenneth Walker, but like we all thought Kenneth Walker
31:36
Speaker 3: could be in Seattle where he plays, you know, the
31:38
Speaker 3: majority of the snaps. And maybe you get a few
31:41
Speaker 3: sprinkled in here with Zach Charbonnet and stuff, but he
31:44
Speaker 3: ends up being the bell cow that the Seahawks have
31:46
Speaker 3: been looking for. So yes, I don't want this to
31:49
Speaker 3: be carried away as in, oh, I think Kenneth Walker
31:51
Speaker 3: is going to be miles ahead of where Jadarian Price
31:54
Speaker 3: is going to be. I'd still like what they have
31:56
Speaker 3: in Jadarian Price. It's just, it's tough to watch what
31:58
Speaker 3: happened last night. and really kind of think about what
32:01
Speaker 3: could have been.
32:02
Speaker 2: Final question for you. How much are your Jadarian Price
32:06
Speaker 2: comments based on the fact that you have him in fantasy?
32:09
Speaker 2: Scale from one to ten. One.
32:12
Speaker 5: More.
32:13
Speaker 4: Three. More. Six.
32:17
Speaker 3: More. Well, this is a two-sided question because I picked
32:21
Speaker 3: him in fantasy because I think these things, right? But also, yeah, more.
32:25
Speaker 4: Yeah.
32:27
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, ABC's of the M's. We're
32:30
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Speaker 2: Man, rarely do you see a general manager be this blunt.
33:08
Speaker 2: When asked about Luis Castillo's effect on the Chicago White Sox,
33:12
Speaker 2: general manager Chris Goetz, who just traded for him at
33:16
Speaker 2: the trading deadline, said, It's trended in the wrong direction,
33:19
Speaker 2: and it's been surprising. So what's happened has happened, and
33:22
Speaker 2: we've got to find a way to improve it. Castillo
33:25
Speaker 2: dominated in his first start as a White Sox, but
33:28
Speaker 2: he has a 7.76 ERA over his last seven games.
33:33
Speaker 2: And believe it or not, if you haven't been paying attention,
33:36
Speaker 2: he's now working out of the bullpen. He came in
33:40
Speaker 2: not in a piggyback situation, but Sean Newcomb's been the
33:44
Speaker 2: opener for them like two times per turn through the rotation.
33:49
Speaker 2: And Castillo is now... Coming out of the bullpen, which
33:53
Speaker 2: we were always, he was always reluctant to do.
33:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now all of a sudden he'll do it
33:58
Speaker 3: in Chicago. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall.
34:00
Speaker 2: Not well, though.
34:01
Speaker 4: No, yeah.
34:01
Speaker 3: But my question to the White Sox general manager, what
34:06
Speaker 3: do you think you were getting? Have you not followed
34:09
Speaker 3: his career recently? Well, I don't think you're.
34:13
Speaker 2: Apparently the velocities dip to like 92 miles per hour.
34:16
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, yeah.
34:19
Speaker 3: I don't know. Mariners fans can see this from a
34:22
Speaker 3: long way away. All right. No doubt. Yeah, and I'm
34:25
Speaker 3: a big Castillo fan. I still think that he had
34:27
Speaker 3: some value on this team, but I liked the trade
34:30
Speaker 3: when it happened because you got out from under that
34:32
Speaker 3: and didn't have to keep any of the money, and
34:34
Speaker 3: you got Dominguez, who's actually been pretty dang good for
34:37
Speaker 3: the Mariners in the bullpen.
34:39
Speaker 2: It was a great trade for next year.
34:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
34:42
Speaker 2: The fact that that thing had to get so messy
34:45
Speaker 2: and confusing was unfortunate, and it was also.
34:50
Speaker 2: From what I understand, Dan Wilson's fault for the lack
34:55
Speaker 2: of communication to all parties involved.
34:58
Speaker 3: Why is that not surprising?
34:59
Speaker 2: M is for money. Anders and I had this conversation
35:04
Speaker 2: off the air yesterday. I think it's worth bringing up
35:07
Speaker 2: because it is startling to think about. One, I'm not
35:12
Speaker 2: really ready to talk about the Mariners offseason yet.
35:15
Speaker 3: It's not Stove.
35:16
Speaker 2: Even though I love Stove, Anders and I both love Stove.
35:20
Speaker 2: But I also don't know what rules we're going to
35:22
Speaker 2: play by. I mean, there's going to be a holdout.
35:27
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lockout of some sort, strike
35:28
Speaker 2: of some sort. We're going to miss some time next year.
35:32
Speaker 2: How much time? I think we could miss the entire season.
35:36
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not predicting that, but I think
35:38
Speaker 2: that it is a possibility. So from that standpoint, I'm
35:41
Speaker 2: a little hesitant. First of all, I don't want to
35:43
Speaker 2: start talking offseason for some reason. I think it's because
35:47
Speaker 2: of how awful this year has been. That's the reason.
35:49
Speaker 2: Take a break. I need a break from it. But
35:52
Speaker 2: number two, I don't know what the rules are going
35:54
Speaker 2: to be. But if there is a salary cap, M
35:58
Speaker 2: is for money. They are projecting the salary cap that
36:04
Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball is looking for is $ 245 million.
36:09
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Dodgers payroll is $ 400 million.
36:13
Speaker 3: This is counting all the deferrals.
36:16
Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 4: No, it's not.
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Speaker 2: For next season.
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Speaker 5: Oh.
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Speaker 2: For right now, they're $ 400 million per year salaried roster.
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Speaker 3: Does this count the $ 2 million for Shohei or like
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Speaker 3: the $ 70 million that he- $ 70. Okay, okay.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So it does count the deferrals.
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Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: I thought you meant like- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
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Speaker 2: they are on the hook for a $ 400 million per
36:37
Speaker 2: year payroll. Yeah. So that means, because they're going to
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Speaker 2: stop that deferred payment nonsense with the new collective bargaining agreement,
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Speaker 2: that means that the Dodgers, they have, Anders and I
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Speaker 2: did the math yesterday, they have $ 275 committed to players
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Speaker 2: next year that have no trade value. So they would
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Speaker 2: have to keep all of those guys and still be
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Speaker 2: $ 30 million over the proposed cap. Those are untradeable contracts
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Speaker 2: that they have that per year equal to.
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Speaker 1: That doesn't count Shohei. You could trade him.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't count Yamamoto. You could trade him. That doesn't
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Speaker 2: count Freddie Freeman. You could trade him. Kyle Tucker, Tyler Glasnow,
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Speaker 2: maybe you could trade Blake Snell.
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Speaker 3: Teoscar Hernandez.
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Speaker 2: Teoscar Hernandez, you can't trade. The... Mookie Betts you couldn't
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Speaker 2: trade at $ 32 million a year because he's not even
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Speaker 2: good anymore.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 2: The collection of players that they have that have untradeable contracts,
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Speaker 2: just that collection alone, that doesn't even count the rest
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Speaker 2: of the roster, totals $ 275 million. So you're still $ 30
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Speaker 2: million over the proposed cap. If you get rid of
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Speaker 2: all those guys. No, you'd have to keep all of
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Speaker 2: those guys.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you got stuck with all those guys,
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Speaker 2: you're still $ 30 million over. So you've got to figure
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Speaker 2: out a way to trade something so somebody would take
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Speaker 2: a player off of your roster that they don't even want.
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Speaker 2: So in other words, they'd be effed. Now, I think
38:14
Speaker 2: baseball will probably not $ 245 million next year. They probably
38:19
Speaker 2: wouldn't make it like an immediate thing. They probably, after
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Speaker 2: a negotiation, would... start at a certain number so that
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Speaker 2: Dodgers and Mets and others could progressively work down to
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Speaker 2: where that cap number would be. But right now, at
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Speaker 2: $ 245 million, the Dodgers would be $ 155 million over.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And because deferred payments aren't going to matter in this case.
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Speaker 2: That's $ 70 million. You can choose to pay Shohei Otani
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Speaker 2: in the year 4,000 if you want. But that $ 70
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Speaker 2: million salary that you sign him to goes against the cap.
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Speaker 2: Goes against the cap. So they would have in untradeable
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Speaker 2: contracts $ 275 million already committed next year to like seven players.
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Speaker 2: Please let this happen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to see the.
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Speaker 3: Carnage please of the Dodgers that's the only reason I
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Speaker 3: want the salary cap at this point because I want
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Speaker 3: to see them have to deal with that.
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Speaker 2: Please I want to see them trade Shohei I want
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Speaker 2: to see them trade uh Freddy and Yamamoto because they
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Speaker 2: have to yeah pennies on the dollar trades and then
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Speaker 2: I want them to go 40 and 120 for the
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Speaker 2: next 10 years until they can get their financial horse
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Speaker 2: back in order. You brought this upon yourselves. And they
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Speaker 2: won't because they've got a great team of prospects.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do.
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Speaker 2: But they would be absolutely screwed if they implement that
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Speaker 2: salary cap next year because there's no way they can
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Speaker 2: get under it without doing some serious baseball gymnastics.
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Speaker 4: All right.
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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Rick Neuheisel, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.