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- 0:00So what if you want to stay with a narcissist?
- 0:04Lee, what the hell are you talking about?
- 0:06Hey, these are the questions I get in my group.
- 0:09People ask me these questions anonymously of course, but they
- 0:13ask the question nonetheless. Like So Lee, what happens if you
- 0:20want to stay with a narcissist? If you don't want to leave?
- 0:22You think if you think you have them figured out and you think
- 0:25you could, you could make it work.
- 0:27What? What should I do?
- 0:28If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:30I'm a diagnosed narcissist, you know, and I talk about the mind
- 0:33of a narcissist, how how to deal with narcissistic people.
- 0:36And today's mic holder is a fat caliber.
- 0:38So y'all see that snap, snap, snap.
- 0:41I was going to get a real mic holder.
- 0:43I'm like, yeah, yeah, what? We have fun on this channel.
- 0:45Let's just grab me something random every day to hold the mic
- 0:47on. So today we got a caliber.
- 0:48I'm turning this way so you can't really see it, but yes,
- 0:53what do you want if what happens if you want to stay with them?
- 0:55What do you do in that situation?
- 0:56What do you do in that scenario when you want to stay with a
- 0:58narcissist like Lee? What the hell?
- 1:00Who would want to stay with them?
- 1:01Like why are you even making this video to convince people to
- 1:03stay? That's not the point of this
- 1:05video, y'all. The point of this video is to
- 1:06not convince people to stay. That's not what I do, y'all.
- 1:09I give you the information necessary for you to make a
- 1:11conscientious, conscientious decision on whether you want to
- 1:14leave or what do you want to stay.
- 1:15That's up to you, right? You have to make the decision on
- 1:17your own. But if you want to stay with a
- 1:20narcissist, the number one thing that you have to understand, the
- 1:25number one thing that you're going to be dealing with if you
- 1:28decide you want to stay with a narcissist is drum roll, please,
- 1:32the room. You're going to have to accept
- 1:35them as is. Now Doctor Romney talks about
- 1:38radical acceptance a lot, right? And I, I agree, radical
- 1:42acceptance is really, this is one thing you absolutely have to
- 1:46have when you're dealing with a narcissistic person and you want
- 1:48to stay with them. You have to, you have to have
- 1:51radical acceptance. And I know a lot of people don't
- 1:53want to hear that, like Lee, but what you change, Lisa, Why can't
- 1:56the narcissist change? Why can't they?
- 1:58I've put the work in. I'm still putting the work in to
- 2:02this day. I am.
- 2:06And I looked at radical acceptance.
- 2:08It says the ability to accept situations that are outside of
- 2:12your control without judging them.
- 2:15This reduces suffering caused by the situation.
- 2:18Radical acceptance means full acceptance of reality with your
- 2:21mind, body, and spirit. It is accepting that reality is
- 2:25unfolding the way that it is. You cannot control this
- 2:28narcissistic person. This is what I get when I hear
- 2:31that right there. You cannot control them.
- 2:33You can't control what they do, where they go, who they do, who
- 2:36they going to do. The only thing that you can
- 2:39control in this situation is you.
- 2:41You have to accept what you absolutely what you actually
- 2:44have control over this situation and most times people don't want
- 2:47to hear it. The only thing that you really,
- 2:48truly have control over in this scenario is yourself.
- 2:51You can't control them. It does not work that way.
- 2:55When you're doing the narcissist, it does not work
- 2:56that way. You cannot control them.
- 2:59You can beg and plead and cry. You could try to set, you can
- 3:02try to set boundaries later on, but it's very difficult to set
- 3:05boundaries with somebody who's set in their ways, who's so used
- 3:08to being so used to using you and abusing you.
- 3:11It's so difficult to do that. So imagine consistently trying
- 3:15to do that do that to somebody. Trying to consistently set a
- 3:18boundary with somebody who doesn't care about those
- 3:20boundaries is tough as hell to do y'all.
- 3:22Let's just keep it. It is extremely tough to set a
- 3:24boundary on someone who does not give a damn about your
- 3:28boundaries, who who does not give a damn about the rules that
- 3:32you set. They don't.
- 3:36And make sure you describe, subscribe to the YouTube channel
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- 3:54But you got to accept them for who they are y'all.
- 3:55You cannot change this person or you wouldn't.
- 3:57So ask yourself this question. If you want to stay, are you
- 3:59willing to accept them as is? No changes, no personality, no
- 4:04work, no hard work, just as they are right now, just who they are
- 4:10right now. And this is not, this is not,
- 4:12not me telling you to make a rash decision right now.
- 4:16This is me telling you to take your time.
- 4:17This is homework for you. Take your time and write this
- 4:20stuff down. Write down who this person
- 4:22really is because they're healing.
- 4:24We're healing moving forward one way or another.
- 4:27Like what do you decide to leave or stay?
- 4:29It's going to require you to for you to tell yourself the truth
- 4:32about who they are. It's going to require you to
- 4:37tell for you to tell yourself the truth about who they are.
- 4:40It really is. So when I say you're going to
- 4:43have to tell yourself the truth about who they are, you're going
- 4:45to have to write it down. Write down who they are, not
- 4:49what you think about them, not the the truth about who they
- 4:52are, how they've been treating you.
- 4:54Why are you thinking about leaving in the 1st place?
- 4:57Why you left in the first place? For me, I've already some of
- 4:59y'all have already left and considering trying to go back.
- 5:02So ask yourself, why did you leave in the first place?
- 5:05Write this down. Write down who they really are.
- 5:08Because whether you leave or stay, this is something you
- 5:10have. This is a question you have to
- 5:11answer for yourself right here. Can I deal with this person?
- 5:15I also think you're right here if you can't leave.
- 5:18So I know some money, whatever the situation is, right?
- 5:20So this video is also for the people who feel like they're
- 5:22trapped because you have to make a long term plan and you're
- 5:25trying to survive in it. Like what does happiness look
- 5:28like for you right now? I feel like if you decide to
- 5:30stay with this person or you're going to try to go back to this
- 5:32person or whatever the case may be, right, which I suggest what
- 5:35I'm always against, all right, if that person is not doing any
- 5:38kind of work, one thing you got to you got to realize is that
- 5:43this person is like they they're going to be them.
- 5:48They are not like you going to have to reframe what you think
- 5:52happiness is. You're going to have to, you
- 5:56have to change what happiness looks like to you and what
- 6:00happiness means to you. You're going to have to reframe
- 6:03it. And I know that sucks to even
- 6:05say out loud to y'all for y'all to think about, but it's true.
- 6:08You're going to have to reframe what happiness looks like to you
- 6:13because if you because what happens to a lot of people in
- 6:16these hospital relationships, the one especially the ones that
- 6:18I talked to over Zoom, right? They get jealous of other
- 6:22people's relationships, other people that have happy, healthy
- 6:26relationships, they get the person who's dealing with the
- 6:28narcissist gets jealous because they understand that their
- 6:31relationship will never look like that.
- 6:35Their relationship will never ever be like what they look at
- 6:38as a happy relationship. You have to reframe your
- 6:41happiness. So I say all that to say this,
- 6:43look at all the stuff you got to do to be with this person.
- 6:46What are they giving up? Nothing.
- 6:49What are they sacrificing? Nothing.
- 6:51You have to do all the work. It's on.
- 6:57You look a lot of work with little to little to no or no
- 7:04return on it. You just survive.
- 7:06And I understand people, some people are just trying to
- 7:08survive and make a plan. I get that.
- 7:09Listen, I like, yeah, this is not me judging y'all.
- 7:12This is me trying to just give y'all the information necessary
- 7:15for you to make those decisions on your own.
- 7:17But that are not going to be easy decisions.
- 7:19I don't want these decisions. I don't want y'all to think that
- 7:21these decisions are going to be easy because they are not.
- 7:26They're not going to be easy decisions.
- 7:29But you have to understand, like this is who you dealing with,
- 7:32y'all. Seriously.
- 7:34You can't change them if nothing changes.
- 7:37What would you be happy with the decision to stay or go back if
- 7:41nothing were to change? I don't get y'all.
- 7:43Let me be real with you. Let me keep it high.
- 7:45I don't care what they said. They're going to change.
- 7:48I don't. I'm going.
- 7:49To go to therapy. I'm going to put the work in.
- 7:51I'm going to go to school. I'm.
- 7:52I'm going to stop hitting you. I'm gonna stop cheating.
- 7:54I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop.
- 7:55I'm gonna stop. I'm no.
- 7:57Why did you stop already? So you stopping and being a
- 8:01better human being is contingent upon me staying or coming back
- 8:04to you. That doesn't mean that means
- 8:06that you really don't want to try to be a better person.
- 8:08That means you're just trying to be manipulative to keep me from
- 8:11leaving or to keep to may have me come back.
- 8:13You don't even really want to change your behaviors.
- 8:15You just don't want me to go. That's the thing that you're
- 8:20going to, if you're going to deal with them, this is what
- 8:22you're going to have to accept. Well, I don't want to accept
- 8:25that at all. Hey, I don't make the rules.
- 8:27I'm not trying to make the rules here.
- 8:29I'm just letting you know this is what and who you're going to
- 8:32be dealing with. This is a scenario that has
- 8:35boiled. It has picked this up up that so
- 8:37many people are going to be battling and dealing with.
- 8:39I promise you, you are and it sucks because you're just trying
- 8:42to heal. You're just trying to be better.
- 8:44You're just trying to feel better.
- 8:45And it sucks to even think that you have to go through this type
- 8:48of stuff because you're never going to be truly, fully happy
- 8:51in a topical relationship. You have to accept the fact that
- 8:53you're never going to be truly fulfilled.
- 8:55You have to accept the fact that you you're going to be jealous.
- 8:57You're probably going to look at other people's relationship and
- 8:59wonder why yours is not that way.
- 9:00You have to accept the fact that this person is who they are.
- 9:04You have to accept the fact that you'll be getting you're going
- 9:05to be getting a lot less than what you feel like you deserve.
- 9:08And you also have to accept the fact that I don't think, and
- 9:11this is me being real, like you said, I said it a lot, darling.
- 9:14I'm just keeping it real. You want to be real.
- 9:16I don't think that you can ever really reach your full potential
- 9:20while you're in the throes of a toxic relationship, right?
- 9:22I don't think you can ever fully reach your full potential while
- 9:25you're in the throes of a toxic relationship, right?
- 9:26I don't think you can ever fully reach your full potential while
- 9:28you're in the throes of toxicity, while you're dealing
- 9:30with an abusive, manipulative person.
- 9:32I don't think you can reach the full potential of your life.
- 9:36And I feel like that's a big thing for people to accept right
- 9:38there. I feel like there's a huge thing
- 9:41for people to accept that really, really is.
- 9:45I tell people, I tell this to people all the time.
- 9:47That's a huge thing for people to accept that you will never
- 9:50reach your full potential while you're dealing with an abusive,
- 9:53manipulative narcissist. And I know that sucks.
- 9:57I know that sucks to hear. I know that sucks to even go
- 10:00through. I know that it sucks because
- 10:02this you love this person, you got kids with this person, you
- 10:04build businesses with this person.
- 10:05Again, this is only if you want to leave it, only if you want to
- 10:09go back or only if you want to stay with this person.
- 10:11Radical acceptance is a real thing, You know?
- 10:14You also have to accept the fact that if you go back or if you
- 10:17stay, you're probably going to lose some friends and family
- 10:20members. Look at it again.
- 10:21Look at all the sacrifice that you have to make to stay with
- 10:24this damn person, y'all, Yeah, to sacrifice your friends, your
- 10:28family, sometimes your kids, sometimes your kids when they
- 10:30get older. But they'll tell you if you go
- 10:33back, I'm not you going to. I'm not coming back.
- 10:35I'm not coming back over here no more you.
- 10:37If you go back the second I turn 18, I'm out of here, right?
- 10:42Some of them feel that way. So that's something you have to
- 10:45think about, y'all. Some of your kids absolutely
- 10:46think that. But if you go back into toxicity
- 10:49that they will cut you off. They'll cut the non-toxic parent
- 10:53off. If you stay in toxicity, they
- 10:54will cut you off because you stayed in toxicity when you had,
- 10:58if you had the opportunity to leave, right?
- 11:01I'm just telling you, just keeping it real with job.
- 11:03I know it's tough to even understand in the reconcile and
- 11:06just the fact that you have to deal with this type of abusive,
- 11:08manipulative person. I hate the fact that you have to
- 11:10deal with it. But hey, that's the way the
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