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Set 1: Chatting with Topeka (w/ Mike Golic) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: ten to noon Easter on ESPN Radio, and Mike Gollock
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  Speaker 1: Senior is with us right now. He's all dressed up
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  Speaker 1: because he has to make the rounds of the affiliates today.
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  Speaker 1: What a great day, happy day for you. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know these days, dude, Yeah, yeah, gotta gotta
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  Speaker 2: go around the country, you gotta do they gotta do
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  Speaker 2: the car wash, yes, said.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, what I know about those days? As Dan hated
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  Speaker 1: doing those things. They would give him like one or
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  Speaker 1: two stations. He would maybe call into those stations and
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  Speaker 1: I would get the other fifty eight. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying so well, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that my son gets good. That I have
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  Speaker 2: a quite a bit, but I'm hoping he gets more.
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  Speaker 2: He's younger, he has more energy.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that device it should be like eighty twenty
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  Speaker 1: his way.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've done enough for the kid, Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, come on, man, carry me. I know
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  Speaker 2: your your legs are stronger than mine. Carry your old man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, listen, when you sign it, it's all funny games
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  Speaker 1: until you realize you have to make affiliate calls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, philiate calls, meet with the sales team and
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  Speaker 2: all that, all that fun stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, so they can sell out every other word
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  Speaker 1: that comes out of your mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I listen.
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  Speaker 2: I go back to the you know when you filled in,
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  Speaker 2: back to the mic and mic days. My god, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: we had so many reads, so many reads.
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  Speaker 1: Greeney called it the sports radio obstacle course. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's so good. Mike. We haven't spoken to you since
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  Speaker 1: Lebron made his decision, and I can't believe we're still
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  Speaker 1: hanging on Lebron decisions. We'll get to football and training
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  Speaker 1: camp in just a second. But Lebron chooses Philadelphia, and
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  Speaker 1: as a as a Cleveland fan, as someone who grew
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  Speaker 1: up in that area, you were hoping he would come
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  Speaker 1: back to Cleveland. He ended up not doing so he
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  Speaker 1: went to Philadelphia. What were your thoughts when the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing went down?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I definitely was hoping you go back to Cleveland,
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  Speaker 2: you know again, yes, and kind of finish where he started,
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  Speaker 2: you know, And I thought, you know, we would be
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  Speaker 2: on the same planes. I'm going back to ESPN to
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  Speaker 2: maybe finish where I started. That me and Lebron, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we've had we've had the equal you know, sports careers share.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, of course, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, your radio career is equivalent, You're media
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  Speaker 1: career is the equivalent of his basketball career.
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  Speaker 3: I'm comfortable saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know about that, but I was
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  Speaker 2: definitely hoping he would go back to Cleveland because listen
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  Speaker 2: that Nick's congratch to them NBA Champs, well deserved. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, I I I still think that's a that's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty open conference, right, especially with Giannis going down
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  Speaker 2: to Miami again another place that that uh that Lebron
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  Speaker 2: spurned to go to Philly. I thought he would. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he would help Cleveland. Though you got hardened on
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  Speaker 2: that team and Harden in the playoffs just just are
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  Speaker 2: It's just a tough, tough call, as we know.
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  Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, I was a little bummed.
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  Speaker 2: But listen, I spent most of my professional career in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 2: so I always kind of follow those sports teams like
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  Speaker 2: I did when I was playing there, and I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: for them. I'm a big Tires MAXI fan, big big
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  Speaker 2: MAXI fan. I think he's an excellent player. What what vj.
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  Speaker 2: Edgecombe did as a youngster has been incredible. Obviously getting
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Brown there, I mean the question again, it was
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  Speaker 2: like in LA they didn't have a they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a big man. You know, once Ad got hurt and
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  Speaker 2: then and then traded, obviously he's gone. They didn't they
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a big man, and you have a big
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  Speaker 2: man and Joel Embiid.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, how much time is he going to miss?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: You know, do you massage his his minutes until and
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  Speaker 2: use them well for the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: How do you because the starting five is fantastic. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, with with Embid who's at injury and Lebron,
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  Speaker 2: who's you know, one hundred years old, you don't know
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  Speaker 2: how much you're going to get out of them. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean the starting lineup is really second to none.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you need a big man because if you figure
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be Oklahoma City or San Antonio in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, the Knicks proved it's important to have
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  Speaker 1: someone who can match up in terms of size with Wemby,
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  Speaker 1: You're right, yeah, oh yeah, without question.
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  Speaker 2: You know you need you need a big man, you
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  Speaker 2: need a healthy big man, and that that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be the big question. Now, it's going to be how
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  Speaker 2: they all play together. Remember when Lebron went to Miami
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  Speaker 2: with Bosh and with Dwayne Wade, they took a while
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  Speaker 2: to kind of figure out how.
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  Speaker 3: The flow was going to go.
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  Speaker 2: But clearly now and that's but that's when Lebron was Batman.
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  Speaker 2: Lebron isn't Batman anymore, and he understands that, sure that
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  Speaker 2: there are other guys running the show. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: you have stars in Maxie and brown Edgecomb's a young guy.
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  Speaker 2: Embeat obviously has his reputation, though again, he's been he's
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  Speaker 2: been injured, so they need to kind of kind of
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  Speaker 2: figure it all out. But you know, that's what eighty
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  Speaker 2: two games.
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  Speaker 1: Are four Mike. I will say this on a team
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  Speaker 1: on the Lakers last year, a team with two young
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  Speaker 1: players and Luken Reeves, the only guy healthy in the
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  Speaker 1: postseason was Lebron. Yes, was Lebron.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you just you never know, right, it's not
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  Speaker 2: about injury because you're going to have players miss games.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to have injuries. It happens all the time.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it is timing, you know, is it early,
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  Speaker 2: is it middle of the season. Is it end of
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  Speaker 2: the season where you got to sit them and rest
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  Speaker 2: them for the playoffs? Are they hurt going into the playoffs?
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  Speaker 2: So injuries are one hundred percent guaranteed by some players.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a matter of when and the time you miss.
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  Speaker 1: Mike. In terms of pecking, Goarter Taylor. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think on this? Because Philadelphia is such a great sports
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  Speaker 1: team and I'm wondering where the Sixers whar basketball ranks
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  Speaker 1: amongst their favorite teams? Uh, what do you think? Like
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  Speaker 1: they have the Flyers, they have the Eagles, They have
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  Speaker 1: the Phillies, and they have the Sixers. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think the Sixers fall in that pecking Goarterer, because Mike
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  Speaker 1: would know.
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  Speaker 4: My gut says the Sixers are fourth. It's it's clearly
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  Speaker 4: an Eagles town. And then I would say it's a
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  Speaker 4: toss up between Phillies and Flyers, and then the Sixers
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  Speaker 4: kind of bring up the rear.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Mike, I think I think people want to
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  Speaker 2: thought the Sixers were going to do more than they've
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  Speaker 2: done right now. I now I think they they probably
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  Speaker 2: jumped to number two, right behind Philly, right right, I
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  Speaker 2: mean the the Phillies obviously, Yes, yes, yeah, behind behind
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles. Yes, what the Phillies are six games behind
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta for the division lead, but you know they're they're
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  Speaker 2: above five hundred. You know, there's still a decent amount
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  Speaker 2: of season to go, but you hope there and with
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  Speaker 2: the Flyers. Obviously, it's a great hockey town. It's a
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  Speaker 2: great hockey town. Yes, it's a great sports town.
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  Speaker 3: It really is.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think there's any doubt with Lebron now
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  Speaker 2: on this team and the expectations that Lebron was going
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  Speaker 2: to go to a team to try and be quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote the final piece to win a championship, and just
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  Speaker 2: the power of that starting lineup. I don't think there's
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  Speaker 2: any doubt they've jumped to number two behind Philly, so
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  Speaker 2: behind the Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, you're the ultimate family man. How'd you feel about
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  Speaker 1: Lebron James? Even if you're thinking it, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you say it out loud the fact where he said
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  Speaker 1: this is not about my family. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if it's not about your family, you better present
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  Speaker 1: a different to your family that this decision was all
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  Speaker 1: about my family, whether it was or not.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, I think you have to kind of
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  Speaker 2: kind of play that game. Yeah, And though though I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how he could, I guess you just leave
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  Speaker 2: that part out because I don't know how he could
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  Speaker 2: say family played a role in it when he has
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  Speaker 2: no association with Philadelphia. Hell, there's talk about him living
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  Speaker 2: in New York and going to Philly every day. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I mean that, so I don't know how he could have.
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  Speaker 2: He probably should have just left that line out.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, Lebron living in New York, that's an insult to Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 4: right that he wants to sign there, but he doesn't
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  Speaker 4: want to sign there enough to actually live within the
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  Speaker 4: city limits.
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  Speaker 3: There will be.
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  Speaker 2: A Philadelphia fans who absolutely feel that way that they're saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to buy into us, you know, listen,
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  Speaker 2: you did this as solid by going two years, eight mil,
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  Speaker 2: four million, year, three nine a year, whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: You did this a solid by that. So obviously you
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  Speaker 2: think this team can win a title. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna sign with us, be one of us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even if it's just for the one or two years.
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  Speaker 3: Be one of us.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, kind of kind of embraced the city,
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  Speaker 2: right Yeah, and living in New York and traveling to
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  Speaker 2: Philly is not embracing the city. So believe me, I
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  Speaker 2: know Philadelphia fans. They will they will definitely feel rubbed
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  Speaker 2: the wrong way. Unless so this team better win, right, Yes, well.
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  Speaker 1: After ten games, if they're five and five, that will
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  Speaker 1: start to happen. But if ten and no one's gonna
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  Speaker 1: say a word, right you know that, Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd be like, oh, why doesn't he live here?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if he lived here, the team would be doing better.
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  Speaker 2: They'll pull all kinds of things out now.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, what they'll say if they're ten and O
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  Speaker 1: is hey, it's working stay in New York.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, that's very true, very true.
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, Mike. We had Terrell Davis on yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: I asked him if he enjoyed training kit, and he
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  Speaker 1: said that he loved the first day, but by day
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  Speaker 1: three or four, man, was he tired of it? How
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  Speaker 1: long did it take you.
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  Speaker 3: Driving to training camp.
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  Speaker 2: The only person I ever met who enjoyed training camp
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  Speaker 2: was when Jim McMahon was my teammate in Philadelphia, and
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  Speaker 2: he enjoyed training camp. Now, I can understand why a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback would be the one to enjoy it, because they
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  Speaker 2: wear red jersey. They don't get hit at all, so
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  Speaker 2: the physicality isn't what what the other players go through.
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  Speaker 3: But he literally enjoyed it, you know, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: But I hated it.
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  Speaker 2: I hated every It was a necessary evil. I look
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  Speaker 2: kind of cock eyed at anybody who says they enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: I could see Trell saying he enjoyed the first day,
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  Speaker 2: because yeah, the first day you don't go out there
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  Speaker 2: in full pads. Right, there's an acclamation process because quite honestly,
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  Speaker 2: the worst days are those first few days in pads,
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  Speaker 2: because no matter how long you play, you go through
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  Speaker 2: the initial soreness of you went through a whole off
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  Speaker 2: season of just working out, preparing, but not wearing a helmet,
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  Speaker 2: not wearing shoulder pads, and all of a sudden you
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  Speaker 2: put those on and then you start hitting, and the
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  Speaker 2: soreness in your shoulders and neck are just every year.
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  Speaker 3: You go through it every year. So and plus I
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  Speaker 3: just hated it.
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  Speaker 2: Now again, I'm not going to play the old man
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  Speaker 2: on the steps. Camps are a little different now, right,
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  Speaker 2: easy they can't go to the Yeah, well, I mean
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  Speaker 2: they can't. And quite honestly, I would have loved to
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  Speaker 2: play it in this era. So I didn't beat my
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  Speaker 2: beat my body in training camp for six weeks and
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  Speaker 2: two A days and sometimes three a days.
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  Speaker 3: You know now they're now.
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  Speaker 2: They're not allowed, not allowed to go back to back
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  Speaker 2: practices in pads. I would have loved that. That would
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  Speaker 2: have been fantastic. So that was the other thing. We
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  Speaker 2: just we just beat ourselves up through through camp. It
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a grind.
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  Speaker 1: Say what you want to say, today's players are soft, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Well I won't say soft, I'll say they listen again,
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  Speaker 3: I would like to play in this era where where
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  Speaker 3: the OTAs are a little less demanding and and I
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  Speaker 3: know there are some that say the game has suffered
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  Speaker 3: for it, but you're also looking about longevity of players
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  Speaker 3: as well.
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  Speaker 4: Mike, what do you think about the vide vea asking
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  Speaker 4: for a trade out of Tampa Bay and Todd Bole
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  Speaker 4: saying that they haven't even had conversations about trading him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's all it's all a ploy he's
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  Speaker 2: trying to get, is trying to get an extension. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And if they're not talking how they want how he
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  Speaker 2: wants them to talk, that that's that's the leverage, right,
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  Speaker 2: The only leverage a player has, quite honestly, is withholding
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  Speaker 2: his services, right, just not practicing. And you see the
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  Speaker 2: thing now is for and I'm not talking about Vita,
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about others. They'll do a hold in, they'll
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  Speaker 2: report to camp so they don't get fined, but they
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  Speaker 2: won't practice untill something is done. That's and again that's
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  Speaker 2: withholding your services. And it's all about a line of
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  Speaker 2: how far you'll go to withhold your services. And that's
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  Speaker 2: another part of the game, is requesting a trade saying well,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not going to engage me in talks here,
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  Speaker 2: then trade me and let me go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 5: Mike, Speaking of hold ins, it looks like Jamiir Gibbs
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  Speaker 5: Andjeon Robinson are both holding in at their respective camps.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think we're going to.
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  Speaker 5: See another reset of the running back market with two
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  Speaker 5: of the best holding in.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if if anybody's gonna reset it, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: those guys, right, Yeah, I mean they're they're.
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  Speaker 3: They're two of them.
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  Speaker 2: But John Robinson's, you know, one of the best, if
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  Speaker 2: not the best, two way player outside may Christian McCaffery
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  Speaker 2: probably still holds that when when he's healthy but running
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  Speaker 2: the ball and catching the ball out of the backfield.
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  Speaker 2: But John Robinson is is incredible. So yes, they one
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  Speaker 2: or two of them or both of them will reset
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  Speaker 2: a running back room that what finally got reset to
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  Speaker 2: what twenty million because it was in the teams for
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  Speaker 2: the longest time. I think the only one lower outside
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  Speaker 2: of the kickers from the running backs, I think might
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  Speaker 2: be the tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: But it's it's a position that needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: Reset and it's going to take again unless a team
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  Speaker 2: wants to pay it. It's going to take a player
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  Speaker 2: with holding his services to get it because those are
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  Speaker 2: two guys.
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  Speaker 3: Those teams can't do without.
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  Speaker 2: Right Detroit and Atlanta, they can't do without those guys,
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  Speaker 2: So they're gonna they're gonna have to come to an
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  Speaker 2: agreement somewhere, somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Mike, just going back to Vita Vea for a second.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Here can you talk to because people listen, We follow sacks,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: we look at the quarterbacks. We have no idea what
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: we're watching. Every Sunday. He's not flashy, but he's such
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: a great player. Can you explain to the audience what
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: makes him so great?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are there are players that that don't show
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: up in the stats. Obviously, he gets pressures on the
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in some sacks, but that's not a huge sack
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: position unless you're you know, like an Aaron Donald or
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Chris Jones when he was when he was playing at
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: his best.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: That's a that's a place where you blocks.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It's a place where understand if a run play is
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: supposed to go between the tackles and it has to
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: bounce outside, there's a reason it has to bounce outside,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and a lot of times it's the interior defensive lineman.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: So while that won't show up in the films, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: players understand that that all of a sudden, when a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: running back is trying to go north and south and
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: has to go east and west, that's because of the
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: interior defensive line. When there's a linebacker that's running free
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: to make a tackle for a no gain or a
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: one yard gain, maybe it's because the nose tackle or
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: the detackle ate up the block. So the lineman that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: the center and the guard that tried to combo block
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: the nose tackle on the linebacker, couldn't get off on
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the linebacker because the nose tackle ate up both blocks.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: That doesn't show up in the playbook or in the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: in the stat sheet, but I guarant Dante the linebacker
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: knows it because he's running free.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: To make a tackle.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: So it's a position probably the most outside of O
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: line where it's all negative. Right, it's just your your
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: name is called when you false starter or it's holding.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: But yeah, that interior d line.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Wow, Obviously pressures can be something that that that is
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: notable for the most part, it's it's it's not in
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the box score.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: What what they're worth.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: Is Mike Jalen Carter is six years younger. But it
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: can't be good news for Tampa Bay to see Jalen
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: Carter reset the market where he gets four years, one
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty two million dollar extension, highest paid d
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: tack on NFL history, which says.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: He were playing today.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean what what? And dude deserves it.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: He is an absolute train wreck for offenses. There is
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt about that. Yeah, I mean again, like
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: you said, you said, a key thing there six years
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: six years younger. Right, that's certainly there. There's meaning to that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You know, Vidave is thirty one years old. Again, he
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: plays a the position where you get hit an awful lot.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So by no means is Vidave are going to get
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: anywhere near a deal like that. He won't get that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: length of a deal or that averagwards that thirty eight
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: million year. I think Jalen Carter got Jalen Carter's at
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: the top of the list of D tackles in the league,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: of or the hand the team picture, at least of
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the top D tackles in the league, so he should
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: reset that market. Vidavea, like I said, is not going
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: to get that, but would like to be compensated for
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: his worth.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Everybody knows his worth. But again, this is.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: A negotiation where a team tries to get a player
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: at the lowest value and a player tries to get
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the highest value they can Until you work.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: It out, Mike, he slipped a nine, right, Like I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: remember that draft where you were telling us that you
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: thought Jalen Carter might be the best player in that
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: draft and ended up fall into nine. You have to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: give the Eagles credit for getting them, you.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Know, without a doubt.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Listen, what the Eagles have done in the trade market
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: and free agent market has been fantastic. Yes, quite honestly,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: especially on the defensive side.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And Jalen Carter is wow yep, I mean and listen,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Jordan Davis lost weight.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: He he he certainly understood uh his position. He was
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: too heavy, couldn't stay out on the field long enough,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: lost some weight, trimmed down they got.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It's a nice pairing in there.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, I don't want to pooh pooh Howie Roseman
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: and the job he's done in Philadelphia, But does he
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: really deserve that much credit when his strategy is just
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: draft the best player from Georgia every season? It seems
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: it seems like a strategy more team should be.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems to be working, and you would think
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: other teams would do the same.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, we we we see a lot of misses
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: in the first round and he gets hits.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, I mean yeah, Georgia usually proves pretty well.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Michael, The Rams so good where this is the first
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: time in a long time I felt comfortable asking this
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: question Rams of the field because I feel like the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Rams are that talented. Obviously, Stafford needs to stay healthy.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: But if if he does, I can't say it's hard
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: for me to believe a team's gonna beat that team,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: especially if Aaron Donald comes back. So rams of the field,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: who do you have there?
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: That it's the Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald crazy is yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and it's a really it's a deep defensive line by
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the way, yes, right, I mean they won't act, they
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: won't have to play every play you can have. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that's what I've always said about great D lines. You
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: have your obviously your superstars, but you go six sometimes
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: seven deep where you can roll players in, where an
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: old lineman is playing all seventy five eighty plays and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: d lineman are kind of rolling in staying fresh. But
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the offense obviously is going to put up points. It
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: all depends on health, right, And that's the one thing
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you can't predict. We can sit there and predict cool
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: when what, how many games, where, how far they'll go,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: But you can't predict injury. So guys have to stay healthy.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But right now, I mean, my god, they're stacked. You
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: you probably it's because this was always a Tiger Woods question,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: right of Tiger Woods, of the field a lot of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: times you were taking Tiger Woods, of course you were,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: so it's hard not to lean toward LA. But it's
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: the it's the most injured sport of the major, of
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the of the four majors. Yes, uh so, you just
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you just don't know.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Aaron Shatz, who writes a football almanac every year, did
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: his projections. He was on with us yesterday. He said
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: the Texans are the best team in the AFC, which
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we found interesting. He said that CJ. Stroud during the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: regular season played better than people actually think that he played.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: It was the postseason that was the problem. So the
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: defense was great. If they get mediocre quarterback play, that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: team could be in the Super Bowl. Do you agree
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: or disagree?
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's kind of the opposite of the Cowboys. Yes, the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Cowboys have great offensive play and mediocre topolo, mediocre defensive play,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and they went out and they tried to to remedy that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: So we'll see how it goes. I Houston. Listen, it
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: has really been made clear that defense still wins championships.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Just look at Seattle, right and what Mike McDonald has done,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: and what that what that defensive done.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Credit Sam Darnold in the offense. I get it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: You had the m v P and Kenneth Walker, who's
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: now with with the Chiefs. But that wasn't an offense
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: where he went home. Man, let's watch out for it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: But that defense was and that Houston defense is for real.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So I think a lot of it is going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: be on CJ. Stroud, you know, and and what and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: what he can do. You know, obviously it would be
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: good to have a a running game as well.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Uh, but but a lot of it is is on CJ. Stroud.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to find quickly their their rushing attack, uh,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: and what it was last year? It was it was
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: in the lower third. They averaged just Aaron did point
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that out. He said he needs a running game.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: He didn't have that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Let they do they do and they did not have that.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: They averaged a little over one hundred and eight yards
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a game last year. So it's tough to be one dimensional.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Unless that one dimension you are great. And they were
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: not great as far as a passing team. And I
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: get it as far as the regular season, but if
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: you want to say the best team in the AFC,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: that means a team that will represent the Super Bowl,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: you damn well, better play better in the playoffs, which
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: obviously he struggled in the playoffs and they struggled. But
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I think they're one of the top teams. We keep
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: talking about Baltimore, Kansas City, Buffalo. Don't know what Kansas
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: City will be even though Mahomes is going to be
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: ready for Week one. Baltimore with a new coach. Obviously,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Buffalo is stacked and ready to go. They are ready
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: to fulfill Denver. You know, should be right there again
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: because they had a great defense. And I think Houston
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: is right there again led by their.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Defense and Joe Burrow, don't forget about him, Mike.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's another one where the offense you have no,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: no concerns about. But they had a bad defense and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: they and they certainly like the Cowboys, they did their
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: work in the offseason to improve their defense. And you
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: don't need a top five defense when your offense is
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: as good as Cincinnati's. Right, get get in the upper half, yes, right, yes, right, get.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: In the upper half.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Get some turnovers like the Bears do, and and you
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: know you could be right there.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: The complete opposite of Houston. Yes, yeah, right, Just give
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: us enough on offense and in Cincinnati's just give us
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: enough on defense, you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Know, exactly make a few stops, Mike.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: One of the things that came out of SEC media
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: days was the revelation that John Summer likes to get petticures.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Dan Orlowski has come out completely against it, saying, you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: a dude. You're not supposed to get petticures. And I'm wondering,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: where do you kind of fall in with with petticures.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I think he loves a petty if I had to.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I know, I don't. I don't.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I've never got one and I'll never get one. But
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: this is this is much like the pineapple on the
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: pizza debate. I personally don't like pineapple on a pizza,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: but if you like it, get it.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: It doesn't affect me.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: If you guys eat pineapple pineapple on your pizza, it
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't affect me. If you guys, go get a petticure,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Go get a pedicure if you like it. I'm not
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: going to a I wouldn't subject the person at the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: place to look at.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: My toes and mess with my toes.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: That would be horrible in and of itself, even though
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I know they see bad toes. I have never gotten one.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I will never get one. But I certainly don't go
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: as far as Dan and say you shouldn't.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: Hell, if you enjoy it, go get it. Have a ball.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Pineapple on pizza offends me.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Yes to his core, it does. Speaking of food, Sorel
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Davis did tell us that he had five hot dogs
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: before a game in Tokyo and then went in. Oh yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: then went into the game, made a big tackle, came
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to the sidelines that threw up every Did you ever
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: eat something before a game that made you throw up
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: during the game?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: How could he have five hot he was playing game?
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: He thought he wasn't gonna play. Okay, okay. So what
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: I would do for home games?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I would would would go to this in Philadelphia, would
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: go there. My wife would come at the same time.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And when we had kids, they when the kids were young,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: they would come as well, and we'd go into the
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: and I would take them into the wives lounge. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: then before I went down to the to the locker
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: room and the wives lounge, I always had a spread,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and part of the spread were these powdered cream filled donuts.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: So I guess this wouldn't shock anybody listening to me
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: talk on the radio about pastries For the last thirty years,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: That's the last thing I would eat for home games.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I would eat it on my way down to the
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: locker room. A powder a cream filled, powdered donut from
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the wise lounge Wow. But I never threw it up.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Guys used to have for like quick energy at halftime.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Guys would have Hershey.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Bars at halftime wow in the locker room for like.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And I have no idea if any of it worked,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: and I didn't eat the donut to have it work.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I ate the donut because I liked it. Of course
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: it was cream filled. It was awesome, and I never
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: threw it up before a game.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Now, did you hide the donut from Reggie? Like, if
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you were walking down with a donut and Reggie White
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: was walking by, would you coun seal the donut?
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: No? Hello, they all knew I liked pastries and sweets. Hello.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'm just making maybe because I ate so much of that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: It only held me to nine years in the league.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe I could have played twelve or more if I
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: didn't eat as many pastries.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Who knows the Golics debuts tend the noon eas did
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio on Monday. We're very excited for Mike
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and Mike Golick Junior. A one final question and we'll
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: let you go because I know you have to hop
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: on into Peaka Kansas the University of Indiana. This is
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the big question we've been asking every guest football school
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: or basketball school.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's right, Listen, we're in a living the
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: moment society now, right, we're in a microwave society where
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: what happened in the last fifteen seconds.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So it's a football school, right, Listen.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Signetti's had a couple of really good years, one obviously
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: capped off in an undefeated national championship year. And while
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: we'll see if they get back, but the expectation is
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: they're still going to be really good. So yeah, I
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: think because we're a living the moment society now that
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: it's considered a football school because they won a national championship.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: All right, Mike, we appreciate the time. As always. Good
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: luck to you guys on Monday. I'm certain you guys,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: but you've done this before. Mike. You know what you're
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: doing A couple of times into two hour sprint. Just
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: make sure you say hello to everyone in Billings. Bonds
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: had it for me today, Okay, yes I will. Thank you, Mike,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: you got it.