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How Does Finance Work Spiritually? · The Curt Landry Podcast

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Hey everyone, you're listening to the Curt Landry podcast where we're going to help you
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discover your kingdom destiny.
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My name is Darrell and sitting right beside me is Rabbi Curt Landry.
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And in this episode, we're discussing how does finance work spiritually.
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But before we jump into this one, Rabbi, how was yesterday?
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How was the weekend for you getting going?
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Hey, it's going great.
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Listen, we're going to talk about probably one of my favorite subjects.
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We're going to talk about money and finance.
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And I've always been very open.
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I've had, you know, when I get with religious people, oh, you talk too much about money
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and you shouldn't.
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I don't like money.
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And I always just tell them, listen, if you don't like it, you can give it to me.
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I do like it.
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And you got to realize I'm a humanitarian aid person.
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So I've been doing humanitarian aid for 33 years.
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And it takes literally our ministry has been involved in, I think, close to like $30 million
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of humanitarian aid.
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So yeah, I do like money.
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And I don't love money.
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The root of all evil is money.
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Money is neutral.
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It's just a tool.
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And the thing of it is you're either going to align your life to have a good relationship
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with it.
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And you know, the apostle Paul said it this way, I've, I've abound with little and I've
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abound with much.
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Well, that's my story.
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I have been completely broke.
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I'm talking having to borrow money from the parents and the neighbors for food and to
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having abundance.
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And so anyway, I feel I'm not really an expert at a lot of things.
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But as far as releasing blessings through tithes and offering and biblical finance,
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I feel like the ministry just because of the impact of the humanitarian aid, I feel like
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we have, I don't want to say expert, but we have experience in a testimony that proves
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that, you know, one of the things that being a goodwill ambassador to the nation of Israel
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literally recognized is that the biggest weapon I can do to battle anti-Semitism and boycotts
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and sanctions against Israel is by the scripture says by doing good, putting the foolish talk
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of foolish men to not.
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And if you're going to do good, you have to do good with out of the abundance of your
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life.
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And so if you're going, if you're just have a life just to pay your bills, you really
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can't participate in the abundance.
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So I want to talk about, I'm going to talk about two principles today that will help
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you have more abundance so that you can give here's listen, I love giving and I'm honored
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that I get phone calls and from Israel and they say, and Kenya and different places and
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they ask for help and we're able to say yes.
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And they cry on the phone.
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Thank you so much.
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You're helping these orphans.
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You know, we just recently helped 500 orphans.
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You know, I was an orphan.
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That's how I started in my life and the fact that I can have it's money, you know, I think,
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I think people need to have a spiritual balance.
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You know, you can order, I did a workbook on it.
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You can order the workbook on releasing the blessings through ties and offering understanding
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biblical principles of finance.
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I would go through that workbook.
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I go through it every year just to kind of sharpen my pencil.
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But money used for good is a very good thing.
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So let's break down those two principles.
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But you know, the question I want you to kind of focus around and well, I guess let's say
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this first.
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We, we have an excellent workbook, an excellent book on times and offerings that you've done
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a lot of preaching, a lot of biblical finance teaching on.
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You know, we've created a three part series and incorporate a lot of it into the master
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class, you know, just kind of little sprinkles of, of this teaching and of this resource
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into the emotional healing a little bit.
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But we've done a lot of, a lot of content and a lot of excellent content, I think with
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a lot of resources with it.
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You know, for anyone listening that wants to purchase this workbook, you can obviously
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just find it on curtlandry.com, but we'll put the short link in the description and
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the show notes of this episode.
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So Rabbi, let's focus around this question.
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And that is how does finance work spiritually around those two points that you've got prepared
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for us?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And, and I really, I kind of want to drill down deep into this because if I had two principles
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that I live by, I mean, it's just like, these are so deep rooted in my family, in my children.
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It's this is something my spiritual children get this.
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And the first one is Matthew 6 33 and 34.
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And it says, but seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness.
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So you, you've got to have a mental conscious and unconscious thought of what is first in
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God's kingdom.
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You have to mentally put it first.
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You have to, it's like when you knee jerk and something happens, you have to go into
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the kingdom.
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Okay.
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But then it says in his righteousness.
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So it's not enough just to seek the righteousness, I mean the kingdom, but you have to seek,
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seek how do I live?
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Righteousness means I'm in proper alignment.
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I'm doing it God's way.
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Okay.
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So that, though that right there is, is very important.
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But here's the guarantee.
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The guarantee in the covenant is if you seek first the kingdom and you live rightly, all
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things will be added onto you, all things.
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So that's your rent, your mortgage, your doctor bill, your anything and every food, everything.
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And then it says, if you'll just perfect in your mind, a kingdom first mindset and understand
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the instruction of the Bible for righteousness, therefore do not worry about tomorrow.
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Worry.
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So here's the thing is if you lack of finance causes more divorce, more sickness and more
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disease than probably anything else because people don't have enough money.
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That's why I hate lack.
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I hate poverty.
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I lived in it.
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I was raised in a lower middle-class family.
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I worked since I was, I had a social security number at 11.
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I worked 40 hours a week since I was 15 years old.
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So I mean, I get it, but I can tell you being at the place now where I order off the left
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side of the menu, not the right side is much better than having to worry about the finance.
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So what the word says, if you'll, if you'll have a kingdom mindset and live righteously,
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then you don't have to worry about tomorrow for tomorrow will worry about its own thing
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sufficient for its day of trouble.
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So that's, that's really a mindset.
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The whole reason I have done goals to grow when I get on the line and, and, and, and
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I'm inspired from my home office and I go into the studio and film from there, the,
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these podcasts, if I could lay hands on you right now and just give you two things, I
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would say a mindset to trust God in his kingdom and a hunger to be a student, to live righteously.
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And I'm not talking about like weird holiness, like how you wear your hair or you dress.
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I'm talking about understanding biblical alignment.
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So how do, how often do you think people mistake in the true biblical alignment when it comes
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to finances?
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Because you know, I mean, the difference in tithes and offerings and people's lack of
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understanding the biblical significance of each one and when to do it.
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How often do you think people are just not aware or confused with what the Bible says
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on that?
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Oh, I, I, I think it's rampant.
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I really do.
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Because I listen everywhere I go, I see how they live.
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I listen to what comes out of their mouth and what they say.
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I can tell they're not walking in abundance of the surety of God's provision because I
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can listen to what they say.
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And and being quote, I've been labeled.
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I'm not really, I'm, I'm not a prosperity preacher.
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I'm actually a covenant teacher and part of God's covenant is prosperity.
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But I, I'll be honest with you.
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I have been brutally attacked for my position on finance.
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And it's amazing how many of the people who brutally attacked me at some point later on
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down the line, I'll get a very humbling call and they'll ask for money.
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And you know what?
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I help them.
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Yeah, I listen.
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I don't, I know the Lord gifted me to before I was saved, I had the gift with finance.
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My family always said, you know, he's got the touch, whatever.
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And and a lot of it is, is because my uncle Lou that raised help raising my godfather
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was a very wealthy man and he put those basic principles in into my, my, my behavior.
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A lot of it has to do that.
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I understand if you don't have goals and you don't have plans, it's not going to happen.
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Okay.
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And the other thing is if you, if your mind works by the hour, then then what happens
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is then you'll always be concerned about the price.
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If you're, if your mind is focused on getting the thing accomplished and you're not working
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by the hour, then next thing you know, the price doesn't matter.
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So those are all like mindsets that I was raised with, but I was raised with an entrepreneurial
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influence, but it really is a biblical principle because if you'll seek first the kingdom,
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I mean, look at Solomon, he's the richest man that's ever lived on the earth and the
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most wise.
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And he was, he was operating by those principles.
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That's why when I got saved, I decided, you know, I I'm going to try to follow them.
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So when, when you get this book on tithes and offerings, the workbook that we wrote,
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it's basically 30 years of experience of like, I know that if you do this, it will work.
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And it's not because I wrote the book.
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All I did was reek.
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All I did was capture the principles that work.
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But when people ask us, well, you know, how do you deliver $970,000 worth of goods during
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a war in 30 days in war?
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I mean, you're in war.
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Everything is shut down.
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How does your organization go and get to wholesale places, get bulletproof vests, get helmets,
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get medical supplies, get food, all the stuff that we get.
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Plus while you're doing that, not neglecting the orphans and the Holocaust survivors and
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and take how does that happen?
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It's because of these principles.
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And I came to people like Curt Landry Ministries and House of David and I said, we're at war,
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we need help.
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And my gosh, I mean, you guys have given over a million dollars.
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So so how does that work?
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The reason it works is because we sow the seed.
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We don't receive the million dollars and keep it.
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We get it and we move it out quickly.
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And and with the war, it had to happen.
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You know, we had three.
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And initially it was 250, but it went to three hundred and sixty thousand reservists that
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don't have sheets, that don't have shaving kits, don't have pillows.
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Don't I mean, they just listen essentials.
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They're they're they're CPAs.
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There's accountants.
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They're they're a cook.
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They're a plumber.
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They're an electrician.
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They get a phone call and they say, you know what?
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Meet us down at Sturdo.
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You know, and one day they kiss their families, hug their babies, load up and go.
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Oh, they needed uniforms.
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They needed boots.
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They needed all that stuff.
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We got it all.
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And it's like, how did you do that?
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It's because we are already working with the wholesalers and we already have our own amouta.
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But the biggest thing is, is like when they would call me and say, yes, listen, I didn't
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have the money.
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But I had the God.
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And I knew emotionally they're at war.
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Can you imagine if they call me and I said, no, it's like, no, that's not going to happen.
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So we said, yes.
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Then we went to you and we did a few broadcasts.
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It wasn't a huge thing.
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And you guys are the heroes.
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You did it.
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You did it.
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You gave and and the Lord's going to bless you for it because it's great.
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You know, we had to we had to move quickly at that time.
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And I believe it's seek first the kingdom and his righteousness.
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And then what all these things will be added onto you.
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And you know what?
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Everything in the ministry was added onto the ministry has kept growing and it was powerful.
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That's good.
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Why do you think that you've been attacked and coin labeled, whatever you want to call
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it, as a prosperity preacher?
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I think they think I talk about it too much.
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I agree with them.
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I probably do talk about it too much.
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But to be honest with you, I don't choose my messages.
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I pray and I ask the Lord and I preach what the Lord tells me to preach based off that
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inspiration.
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I told one of my pastors once says, well, Rabbi, you talk about it too much.
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And I said, you know what?
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If you would start to walk in the biblical principles, maybe I wouldn't have to be reminding
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you so much.
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I literally said that to him.
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He's under my, you know, it's one of the ones I'm mentoring.
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And he was he was upset.
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And I said, well, if you would, I could move on to another subject.
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But look at the yeah, who's helping you right now?
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I mean, you know, you know, your church can't pay its bills.
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You're going to stuff because you're not doing what I'm teaching.
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And so I just told him, you know, I just, you know, in love.
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But it's like, yeah, I think I think what happens is people get jealous.
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They get agitated.
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Let me let me share with you a few principles on the back of my goals to grow that will
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kind of OK.
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This might be a little bit of a segue.
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Then we'll go on to the next scripture.
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But these are just a few.
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OK.
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And these are things that I've read.
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You know, I tell people like I think you should read an educational book, an audio book or
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read a book at least once a month.
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So these are just kind of some things that I've collected over the years.
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And Hey, let's do this real quick.
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Curt Landry dot com forward slash goals 2024.
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You can get your free download for goals to grow.
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OK.
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OK.
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So, Darrell, these aren't mine.
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These are things I've read and these are notes I put on the back.
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And I actually pray these out loud five days a week.
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Is that coffee on the back?
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Yes.
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Yeah, I spilled.
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OK.
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There's coffee.
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Christy knows where I go because she can just go in the house and watch the little drips
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everywhere.
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So anyway, when you're winning, keep your mouth shut.
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That's good.
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OK.
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That's hard to do in it.
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Not for me, because I always said like I have a friend of mine.
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We're in a ministry project together and he just had a multimillion dollar increase on
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his thing.
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And I said to him and we prayed it in together and so we're five million dollar increase.
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And so I prayed it in.
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And so I told him, I said, now, you know, keep your mouth shut.
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He said, yes, sir.
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It's how he talks to me.
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And I said, OK.
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So I said, you and I will just listen, it's not my money.
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It's his ministry's money.
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But I told him, I said, remember, don't tell anyone.
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Keep your mouth shut and have the stupid smile.
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When people ask you how you're doing, just say fine.
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But you have the stupid smile.
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And I said, but don't tell him because people aren't going to be happy.
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OK.
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And here's another one for pastors and for all of you.
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Don't expect to get what you give.
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Whatever you give to people, don't like measure it off.
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Well, they I sowed to them.
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Are you supposed to reap what you sow?
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Listen, you're going to get if you're really successful, you're always going to give more
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to them.
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OK.
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Then you're going to get back.
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So just forget that.
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Just give.
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And if you never get anything back, you know what?
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Just praise God.
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I always go back to when Christie and I had nothing.
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We went broke after going in ministry.
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And and then I went to the Lord.
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I said, listen, I'm working really hard.
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He says, he says, until you teach people to do it, you're you're taking it.
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You're bringing a corporate thing in here.
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Teach my ways.
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And that's when I shifted.
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That's where this book came from.
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OK.
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Here's another one.
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Don't tell people your plans.
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Because then you're going to get on.
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Yeah, that might be the best one so far.
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I mean, like that one is.
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Like a lot of spiritual truth from, you know, I mean, like one thing that we talk about
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just over the phone and randomly is, you know, don't give an angle to the enemy to come in
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and attack it.
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Right.
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Wait, wait till you get, you know, like if you look at my social media, all the pictures,
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if I do show and I don't show most of my private stuff because I want to have a life.
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But here's the thing is, I just like the Israel stuff.
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Most of it I show afterwards.
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And the reason is, well, I do if my security tells me to do it because I don't want people
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know where I'm at.
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But the thing is, I don't want this talk in the atmosphere of I don't need people come
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in like most of the stuff I do.
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If I told everybody, I'd have people say, well, Rabbi, listen, I was praying for you.
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And that's just too much risk or that can't happen.
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I don't need to hear that.
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Yeah.
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So, you know, and so, you know, anyway, that's that's it.
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You want to hear some more of these?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Let's do like two more and then we can save these for later.
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Okay.
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Let me see.
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Here's one for you.
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The devil would not be attacking you so hard if you didn't have something valuable inside
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of you.
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A thief doesn't break into an empty house.
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So if you're being attacked right now, it's because you know what?
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You got the goods.
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You're doing something right.
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You're doing something right.
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And I can tell you from from just business experience and personal where you get attacked
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the most is when you're getting promoted, getting ready to do something big or you just
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did something great.
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And then it's like payback.
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So those that's when you have to be on guard at the birth and then at the victory party.
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That's when Satan comes.
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And here's the last one.
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Maybe you're holding on to exactly what you need to let go of to move forward.
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Man, I mean, like all of those are just nuggets.
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Yeah, we can go on.
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We can get through some more later.
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Let's move on to the second principle.
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Okay.
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So if you ask me like, okay, you're going to go to Wall Street, New York, and you're
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going to speak at the UN, you're going to speak at the Knesset, you're going to do whatever.
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The Minister of Finance in Israel called and he's going to ask you like a question.
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What I'm going to share is what I would share at any one of those venues.
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I'm not saying anybody would be interested in having me speak there, but I'm trying to
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make a dramatic emphasis here.
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This is what I would say.
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I would say, remember who gives you the power.
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Remember, you have to remember.
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And here's the scripture from Deuteronomy 8, 18 through 20.
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And you shall remember the Lord your God for it is he who gives you power to get wealth.
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Why?
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That he may establish his covenant, which he swore to your fathers as it is this day.
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So he gives you wealth to create a testimony that when you choose to follow God and his
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ways, he prospers you as a testimony.
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And what happens is when you are counterproductive to the prosperity of God, then what happens
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is you are actually disallowing God from establishing his covenant in and through you.
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So these people that come against you for the prosperity, they don't really understand.
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They're actually coming against God's covenant.
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And I want to be flowing with it.
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Now here's the warning.
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Then it shall be, if by any means you forget the Lord your God and follow other gods such
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as man's opinion, fear, doubt, unbelief, pride, arrogance, and serve them and worship them,
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I testify against you this day that you shall surely perish as the nations which the Lord
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destroyed before you.
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You shall perish because you would not be obedient to the voice of the Lord your God.
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So Darrell, you've worked here for a couple of years now.
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Nathan's over there behind the switcher and he's been here about a year and we've got
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new people.
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And so when you see Rabbi do some of the stuff that I do, and I'm not saying you say this,
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but man, what's he doing?
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Why is he doing that?
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It's because I sincerely believe and I get confirmation from other prophets and leaders
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that I'm supposed to do it.
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But the reason I do it, now it goes back to the last podcast in heaven.
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If I do what the God says and it even doesn't prosper on earth, I will have rewards in heaven.
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So that's where my mind goes.
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So to really simplify this, if I believe God's done it, I will do, I will put all my might
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and do my work onto my hands to answer the call because of this scripture.
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Because I do not want to hear from the Lord and the Lord saying, Curtis, did you not read
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where it says, then it shall be if by any means you forget the Lord your God and follow
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other gods such as your own good ideas, your friends, good ideas, what you saw on some
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counseling thing and serve them in worship.
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So I may not sit down and sing songs to them, but what happens is I speak the fear and doubt.
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Well, you know, if I start going down the yeah, but trail, then I'm serving other gods
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and I want to be, I want to hear well done, good and faithful servant.
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So to me, the biggest key is you've got to obey God.
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And I will close with this, these nuggets here.
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You may make people angry when you start following the goals to grow, because when you fill out
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your goals to grow, you're going to, God's going to ask you to do some things that are
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beyond yourself so he can supernaturally intervene and get the glory.
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And there'll be other people who are not of the same faith or have the same vision.
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First of all, don't believe God could use you.
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And what happens is it may make them angry.
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And when you get super serious about following your life goals, you may start losing some
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friends because you know, I've watched this in our own life.
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You'll have friends at one level of social economic relationship and then some at another
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level and then you'll have some at another level.
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As you increase in finance, finance and then you increase in what you can do and not everybody
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can travel with you.
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So it's one of the sufferings of financially prospering in the Lord is you probably going
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to lose some friends.
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And you need to understand this, finance doesn't make life easier.
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It just makes you stronger and wiser.
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And I would say with my book and ties and offerings, my goal is that you can get more
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done with less.
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Doesn't mean you work less, you just work smarter and then you'll have more so that
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you can be a better influencer for the kingdom of God so that you can be a part of doing
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good putting the foolish talk to foolish men to not.
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I can share this with you.
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There's nothing better than to be able to give and be part of the solution, particularly
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when you're helping those who have absolutely no ability to help themselves.
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I think the greatest measure of a man's heart and you were with me when we were interviewing
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Doran Omag, General Doran Omag and he told me this, he said and we'll close with this.
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He went to Harvard.
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He's a general, he was the Raid Tim Tebby co-commander with Bibi Netanyahu's brother, Yoni.
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Yoni actually died in his arms.
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He's a very smart, decorated war hero.
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You were there when we were in his office where Israel began, where the very first government
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with David Ben-Gurion, we're in that building, it's his office is there.
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And he said these words to me.
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He said, my greatest counselor couldn't speak.
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And he said, my greatest counselor taught me the greatest lesson.
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He said it was my handicapped son that died at 16.
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And what he taught me was this, is that the measure of the greatness of a man is his ability
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to take care of those who have absolutely no ability to take care of themselves and no
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ability to pay you back.
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That is a great man.
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And man, when he said that, I said to myself, I want to be that great man.
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And because of that, he has started two handicapped hospitals for special needs kids in Israel,
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one in Beersheba and one in Jerusalem.
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And then my biggest honor that day, if you remember, Sam said to Doran, he said, have
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you ever met the Christian who helps you with the hospital in Jerusalem?
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He said, no, I've never met him.
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And he said, well, now you've met him.
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You're talking to him right now.
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You're talking to him right now.
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And remember, we grabbed hands.
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That was my greatest honor.
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So if you want the key to biblical finance, you have to have a heart to help those who
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can't help themselves and have no way, no ability to pay you back.
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That's biblical wealth.
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Well, if you've made it to the deep end of this episode, we just encourage you if you
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All right, Rabbi, 30 seconds lasting thoughts for the listeners and then we'll get out of
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here.
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Well, it's got to be.
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Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other things shall be added on to
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thee.
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I will tell you this, please, please, please give God a chance to intervene in your deepest
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fears, doubts, sorrows and pains.
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And he will not fail you for our God is not a man that he should lie and God is love and
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every good and perfect gift comes from above.
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So don't ever forget that he loves you.
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He created you.
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And don't ever forget this, that he gave his only begotten son.
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He gave his best.
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Every drop of blood, every pain that he ever suffered was for you to be able to prosper
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and be in health, even as your soul prospers.
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That's my prayer for you in Yeshua's name.
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All right, that'll wrap it up for this episode of the Curt Landry podcast.
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Rabbi until next time.
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Shalom.
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